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Speaker 1: to the fifth Tent tout down Jaguards. They beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and

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Speaker 1: now impeached former assistant sanitation director from Trustsville, Alabama. J

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Speaker 1: welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm j P. Shadrick. He's

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lagoman. Tony Boselli you might have heard of him,

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Speaker 1: will be in shortly. He is in roots and we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss today on this program. Something happened, yeah, something,

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Speaker 1: A few things have happened. Yes, Tom Coughlin is no

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Speaker 1: longer employed by the Jacksonville Jaguars, will leave of his duties.

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Speaker 1: Will cover all of that. We'll hear from head coach

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Speaker 1: Doug Morone. He spoke again today, which is not normally

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Speaker 1: doesn't normally speak on Thursdays except on this program, The

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Speaker 1: today after the happenings last evening. We'll get some player

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Speaker 1: two weeks of the season. Falcons this week and the

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Speaker 1: Colts next. What does the future hold? Will discuss some

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Speaker 1: of that with Jeff Darlington's ESPN reporter, who had some

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Speaker 1: all coming up on this program. Tom Coughlin, out as

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Speaker 1: in fact when it happened, and said he had thought

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Speaker 1: he later said that Dave Coltwell and Doug Moron will

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Speaker 1: this organization. Oh, I don't. I don't think there's any doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that was the reason why the

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Speaker 1: Football League. By acting and terminating the employment of Tom Coughlin,

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Speaker 1: And I contacted some people and I said, you don't

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Speaker 1: There's no different, Nothing has changed from what I said before.

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Speaker 1: of one of those things were finally the union just said,

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Speaker 1: That's what do they call that? There's a term for

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Speaker 1: What what? What? What would you been okay with them

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Speaker 1: just the percentages. Well, here's the other thing, Jeff, and

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Speaker 1: so there's something and I'm not saying I just don't

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Speaker 1: know as much as Jeff does in this area. I

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Speaker 1: don't recall, though, in the history that I've been since

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Speaker 1: Union has ever filed a press release about winning grievances

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Speaker 1: against a ball club. Uh, not as a percentage, as

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Speaker 1: a total, but they have issued releases about grievances that

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Speaker 1: have been won in the past, naming specific teams and

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Speaker 1: individual cases, but not as a summary like that was

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Speaker 1: just I thought it was just I don't think like

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Speaker 1: Coflin's out. Is that enough to mend the fence with

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Speaker 1: the p A, with this organization of that relationship. I

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say you have to have it mended,

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Speaker 1: be buddy buddy with the union. But I think Shad

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Speaker 1: how things were done have We're not gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: destination that will treat the players fairly in the collective

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Speaker 1: bargain under the collective Bargaining Agreement. So I think that

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Speaker 1: you could do in response to what the Unions press

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Speaker 1: release was. And I think I think moving forward, as

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Speaker 1: all know it wasn't the reason he got fired and

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Speaker 1: sped it up. But to the union still they'll view

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Speaker 1: that as a check the box we got, you know,

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Speaker 1: we won. The other way you mend that fence is

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Speaker 1: just follow the dang rules. Just follow the c b

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Speaker 1: A not hard. That's all you gotta do. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you have to, Like if you what Jeff said,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call and do that, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, that's window dressing. The way you fix

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Speaker 1: not saying it's wrong. The way you fix it, though,

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Speaker 1: is you just follow the dang rules, which I've always

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Speaker 1: and I said this Monday Night, which is always like

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Speaker 1: Treat the players the way there's the c b A

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Speaker 1: last night Tom Coughlin is out, um, you know, after

639
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Speaker 1: everything that happened earlier in the week, and Mr Kan

640
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Speaker 1: said that just kind of sped up the process a

641
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Speaker 1: little bit. Essentially, what's your reaction to Coughlin being out

642
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of here? An inevitability? Um? And quite frankly, I think

643
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: the reason why Shan Khan had to like this was

644
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: pretty clear. I mean, you cannot have the players Union

645
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Speaker 1: se uh directing essentially players to consider avoiding Jacksonville. I

646
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: mean that's the death sense and uh, I've honestly never

647
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: really seen anything like that, And I think it's uh,

648
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: not the I want to go to overboard here, but

649
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Speaker 1: I think it's a reflection of the culture that unfortunately

650
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: has existed UM with it within the Jaguars organization for

651
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: the past few years, and UM, I think it's a

652
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: much needed change and it's just not you know, the

653
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: old the old school way. It doesn't always work. Jeff,

654
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: we were talking a minute ago about how do you

655
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: how do you go about fixing the that that released

656
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: by the union incredibly damaging? Is the firing of Tom

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00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: Coughlin enough or does more need to be done? Does it?

658
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: Does the team need to reach out to the union

659
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Speaker 1: in the off season, the head coach need to reach

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00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: out to the union? What needs to happen next? So,

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Speaker 1: from what I understand, those communications UM have and will

662
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Speaker 1: continue to occur. I mean, I know Dave Caldwell has

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Speaker 1: a good relationship both with his players and with the

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Speaker 1: union itself. And UM, I think from the sense that

665
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: I get talking to people around the league that that

666
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: that narrative started and ended with Tom Coughlin when it

667
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: came to the Jaguars. Uh. You know, whether you believe

668
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: that Dave Caldwell deserves to be fired or not, it

669
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: certainly should not fall under the merits of UM. The

670
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: egregious behavior of Tom Coughlin over the past several years.

671
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Speaker 1: I think that that's uh, that's something that will essentially

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Speaker 1: resolve itself with his departure. To be completely honest, Jeff,

673
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Speaker 1: when you say egregious behavior, like what do you mean

674
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Speaker 1: specifically by what behavior are you speaking towards or about?

675
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: Maybe egregious isn't the right word, but just I mean,

676
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Speaker 1: if you have all these grievances being filed by player

677
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Speaker 1: to the point where you know some of them some

678
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it turns into a trend to the point where, uh,

679
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, it becomes maybe in vogue in the locker

680
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: room to go ahead and just file your grievance and

681
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: the early or you know, if it's a former player

682
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: in that case, but in general, you know, whether smoked

683
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Speaker 1: their fire with a lot of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't think, Um, if you look around

685
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: the league the number of grievances that were being filed

686
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: fire filed, and a lot of them were coming from

687
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization generally speaking, you can look a little

688
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: deeper and find out, um why that is. And I

689
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: think in this case, um, you know, com Coplin had

690
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: a very set agenda. He had a real disciplinarian plan

691
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: in place, and and it to a degree backfired, and

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, the NFL p A. I mean, look,

693
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: the thing is whether you agree with it or not.

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00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: If the NFL p A is telling its agents and

695
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: players to consider steering away from Jacksonville, something has changed

696
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: that's too much to uh to get past. You can't

697
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: get beyond that. Uh if you have that culturing place

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Speaker 1: to where the nflp is doing. Man, yeah, that's a

699
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Speaker 1: pretty big blow. I mean you're right about that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when the p A, because that's you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've ever seen the p A coming out and

702
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Speaker 1: making that s So you're right about that. That's wrong

703
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Speaker 1: a statement that usually require some sort of respire. Let

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Speaker 1: let me inserch something in here, because Jeff, I think

705
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Speaker 1: your word egregious would be accurate if it were my

706
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars that we're taking fine schedule, because

707
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Speaker 1: I would want my seven interest and I would want

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Speaker 1: interest back. And if that ain't egregious, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is. Well. And the other thing is, if

710
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Speaker 1: it gets to that point where you're finding somebody seven

711
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, where is the other action take? It's

712
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: just I don't know that it just doesn't fit. It's

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Speaker 1: just not the way that the NFL works these days.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, here's the deal. The other thing is,

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Speaker 1: I know Jalen Ramsey as a character and uh, and

716
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: he's a lot to deal with, but he's still on

717
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: the Jaguars right now. If Tom Coughlin was not um

718
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: in the position that he was in, and I think

719
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: that that um is talent out the door right now,

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Speaker 1: and that is a perfect example of what uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: what you can't have in an organization. I think that

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00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: might have worked out pretty good for the Jaguars, to

723
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: be honest with you, though, with all those draft picks

724
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Speaker 1: and you've got a player that didn't want to play

725
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: and was taking an injury because of it. I mean,

726
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: to me, that's the type of player you don't want,

727
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: regardless of who the TV was to that point, especially,

728
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Speaker 1: I'll take that one back from the standpoint you're also

729
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: you're also dealing with someone you're gonna have to pay

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to and who knows where that goes.

731
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Speaker 1: So so that's a fair point. They did get a

732
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Speaker 1: hall of picks there as well, But I just think

733
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Speaker 1: managing talent is such a key component to the job

734
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Speaker 1: and when we think back to all of the positives

735
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: and all the things that we talked about that we're

736
00:41:52,360 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: such good things about that, what's that squad? It was?

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Speaker 1: It was the characters, It was the passion and the

738
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: way that that defense fought and uh. And if you're

739
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: gonna have those kind of players, you also have to

740
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: have the kind of culture that allows them to drive,

741
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: and that just did not exist anymore. Jeff Darlington with

742
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: us ESPN reporter covering the National Football League a long

743
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: time in the NFL network before that, he had a

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00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: series of tweets yesterday, Jeff, after this all kind of

745
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: went down, um and moving forward now for this organization,

746
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Caldwell and Marone on an interim basis will be reporting

747
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: directly the shot Khan. But you had a series of

748
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Speaker 1: tweets thinking that they could be retained for the future,

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00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: and it sounds like you have a little support for

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Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, I mean, I just get I get

751
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: the impression that shot Conyglorence to support them past this year.

752
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: The interim aspect of the wording of that state that

753
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: made me kind of like, wait a second, that doesn't

754
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: exactly drive with what I was sort of understanding the

755
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: situation to be um, but that was off explained to

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00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: me in a context that uh, you know that. Look,

757
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I think that there is still a little bit of

758
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: a window open for a shot to make a decision there.

759
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: But from what I understand, they will be back in.

760
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: So Jeff, let's look at those two, uh individuals, head

761
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: coach Doug Brown, Dave Caldwell, who's the gm um as

762
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: you look at from the outside, because we're here close,

763
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: I think we all talk about the tough situation, and

764
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: Doug's done a pretty good job of holding it together

765
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: with all the things I've been going on. You gotta

766
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit. Uh, But looking at

767
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: the situation where this team is from a coaching standpoint,

768
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: what we just talked about, but then also the roster,

769
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people you look at the

770
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: holes in the roster and and some of the misdraft

771
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: picks and throughout the years and in the history of

772
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: drafting under Dave Caldwell. What are you hearing or how

773
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: do you view it from a distance of why those

774
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: two individuals should be brought back. Well, I mean I

775
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: certainly hear far more annoyed suggesting that they should not be.

776
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. I mean, I understand for instances,

777
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: as you guys knows well of anybody the sort of

778
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: um I mean, the discontent that exists within the Jaguar

779
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: stand base, UM Man like I understand that we are

780
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: now prone to treat that twenty seven team season as

781
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: the outlier when it comes to Dave Caldwell's resume. I

782
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: just would and I know we're maybe we're never gonna

783
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: find out, or maybe we will. I would just love

784
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: to know as the roster that he put together and

785
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: then was the top ranked defense in the NFL that year,

786
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: would have sustained. I mean, look, yes, Tom Coughlin came

787
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: into the organization that year and as such he's going

788
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: to get some credit for that, But that roster, in

789
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, was built by Caldwell, and I do believe, um,

790
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback, which is going to be a

791
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: black mark on his resume, um, you know, out of

792
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: his career, outside of the quarterback, that was a championship

793
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: caliber team that you put together. Jeff Darlington from ESPN,

794
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: always good to catch up with you. We appreciate your insight.

795
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon, I'm sure thanks appreciate

796
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: is at Jeff Darlington on Twitter, good follow and a

797
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about the Jaguars this week. I think

798
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be be interesting and how you know Tony's

799
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: questionnaire about about how Caldwell and Doug Marone will be viewed,

800
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, going forward, and we've talked about Doug and

801
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: as far as Dave goes, you know, will will the

802
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: mistakes at the quarterback position because they coincide with Coughlin's

803
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: arrival here. Does that fall on Tom Coughlin or does

804
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: that does that fall on Dave Caldwell because the mistakes

805
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Tom was here when we drafted Blake. You know, I'm

806
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: talking about the contract extensions and then the subsequent where

807
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: you've essentially bypassed the Pro Bowl strong quarterbacks on the

808
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: a FC roster right now. So that to me is

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00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: going to be very interesting. And I think one thing

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00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: that I think it's important as you look at it

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00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: will be interesting. Maybe better description than important is as

812
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: a shot of valuates the Dave and Doug, I would

813
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: think you'd have to do it separately because completely different situations.

814
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what Dougs had to do as the head

815
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: coach and managing a lot of the locker room and

816
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: the noise and all the things that go on, and

817
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: a roster that I think all three of us would agree.

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00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: I know, Jeff, you and I've talked about having a

819
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of holes in it because of missed draft picks

820
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: throughout the years. Is in the job he's done injury

821
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: the nick Foles Gardner mentioned, I mean, really, keeping these guys.

822
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: You know, there's a bad five game stretched there. We

823
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: lost by a big margin. But keeping those guys fighting

824
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: and hanging in there, you can make you can make

825
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a case either way. Four and against each guy, ye

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Speaker 1: and then and then looking at Dave is the big picture,

827
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Speaker 1: not just the last three years when Tom's been here,

828
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: but Dave's been here since and looking at the entirety

829
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: of what's happened. And I think each of them separately

830
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: are gonna have to make a case two shod of

831
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Speaker 1: why they are the right person to move forward. And

832
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: it'll just be interesting to see how that evaluation is done. Um,

833
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: But I do think I would think you would do

834
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: it both of them separately as individuals, based on the

835
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: jobs they've done throughout their tenure here in Jackson. No

836
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: different than the job that you made a decision based

837
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: on about Tom Coughlin and looked at his performance and

838
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: what he had done and all the things that you

839
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: liked and disliked of his tenure and ultimately led to

840
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: his departure. Let's come back, Let's talk a little ball

841
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Falcons. Unless you guys want to

842
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,600
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916
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Speaker 1: I want to let you know it's a battle of

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Speaker 1: the press box. That's a good point. The Falcons were

927
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,520
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928
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929
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931
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932
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Speaker 1: They put new runs on Thanksgiving. I was there that

935
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936
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Speaker 1: finish eighteen. So Matt Ryan leads the league in completions

937
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: this year. They're still throwing the ball over there. They

938
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939
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Speaker 1: want to be a zone team, and they can't run zone.

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Speaker 1: They just they don't block it very well. If you

941
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942
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Speaker 1: If you look at San Francisco, their most successful runs

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944
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Speaker 1: I think it is h he's back. He's been back

945
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Speaker 1: Their best running scheme is more of a power scheme,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that good either. That's why they throw

948
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Speaker 1: it so much. They dropped back and throw it as

949
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Speaker 1: much as anybody in the NFL. Schweitzer, who is their

950
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951
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Speaker 1: you watch Have you watched the New Orleans? Didn't watch that?

952
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953
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Speaker 1: round pick, right tackle. Watch him for people that don't

954
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Speaker 1: Jordan normally have like seven sacks that game. They they

955
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Speaker 1: have two first round picks on the right side of

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Speaker 1: a big dude now and they list him and I

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962
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965
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966
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Speaker 1: good matchup this week. If I was a defensive tackle

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968
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Speaker 1: After watch go watch the New Orleans and just watch

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Speaker 1: the pass plays against New Orleans and you'll be you'll

971
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Speaker 1: be begging to go against McGary. How about this question,

972
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Speaker 1: how do you cover? Julio joked today that he would

973
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974
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Speaker 1: He's not far off, and he is as gifted and

975
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976
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Speaker 1: I think there's only been a couple of him like him, Megatron,

977
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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, I don't even I wouldn't put a j Green.

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Speaker 1: I mean his marvelous plays, his physical exactly exactly. Julio

979
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980
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Speaker 1: plays plays every inch of his size and every pound

981
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982
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983
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Speaker 1: great job of hiding him. He moves a lot, and

984
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Speaker 1: he'll play the slot, he'll play the outside receiver. They

985
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Speaker 1: do everything with him to try and get the matchup,

986
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Speaker 1: so it makes it hard. They don't want to. So

987
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Speaker 1: what that does is like you asked this question, you

988
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Speaker 1: covered in the easy, simple stupid fan question or media questions.

989
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: Oh just double him. Well, now, if you're a defensive

990
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Speaker 1: coordinat you're Todd Washing, Okay, yeah, I want to double him,

991
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Speaker 1: But based on his alignment, that will change the coverage

992
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993
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Speaker 1: if one time he's lined up outside, then he's the slot,

994
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995
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996
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Speaker 1: At some point you can say we'll double him when

997
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Speaker 1: he's in this position. But you can't have draw up

998
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Speaker 1: a scheme where you just chase him a round with

999
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Speaker 1: two people. It doesn't work that way. And so it's

1000
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Speaker 1: much more difficult than you think. And and I promise

1001
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Speaker 1: you people will be watching the game on Sunday, and

1002
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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen, but I bet a lot

1003
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Speaker 1: of money Julio Jones is going to catch some balls

1004
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Speaker 1: because that's just what he does. And the and the

1005
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Speaker 1: fans watching them and say, well, why don't you just

1006
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Speaker 1: double them? Well, the reason you can't double him so

1007
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Speaker 1: easily because he's everywhere. He plays every he plays the

1008
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1009
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1010
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Speaker 1: do a good job to do a real good job

1011
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1012
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Speaker 1: matched up one on one six consecutive thousand yards seasons.

1013
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: The last time he faced the Jags, he was over

1014
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: a hundred yards receiving with nine receptions. And I know

1015
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: JP is one of his biggest fans because he loves

1016
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: the whole Falcons wide receiving corps when Ridley's healthy too.

1017
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Will you be wearing a Julio Jones jersey on Sunday? Okay,

1018
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: we're just making sure we're double checking Saturday night. I

1019
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Speaker 1: know you'll be wearing it maybe, but not during the

1020
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Speaker 1: not during the game. Just checking Gay though. He's a

1021
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: great player, but the one thing he does do is

1022
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,960
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1023
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Speaker 1: You think a guy right in the red zone and

1024
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he hasn't struggles. Kind of weird. How

1025
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Speaker 1: about the Falcons defense? Quickly here? You know, is this

1026
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: a matchup where the Jaguars can move the ball a

1027
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: little more consistently? What's the deal with the Falcons? They

1028
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: play fast. I'll give you the very fast. Grady Jarrett

1029
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: is a really good three undersized, so I think if

1030
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Speaker 1: you can get a double on him and run at

1031
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Speaker 1: him and power, I think you can get something going

1032
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: against him. But when he's one on one, beast, Vic Beasley,

1033
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: speed guy, nothing else. Yeah, but he's playing he's he's

1034
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: playing better. I'm still not uh super athletic. Jarr McKinley

1035
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Speaker 1: is the guy they lost. I think Cam Robinson if

1036
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Speaker 1: he has to go against Vic Beasley. That's gonna be

1037
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: a tough match. You know who I worry more about

1038
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: his Adrian Clayborne against Cam. He's a physical guy who

1039
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Speaker 1: will work your inside shoulder and if you turn, he's

1040
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Speaker 1: gonna make it tough on you. So they're not great, Um,

1041
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Speaker 1: they're playing better as of late, much better, missing a

1042
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Speaker 1: couple of guys. Truefont on Our also got the safety

1043
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Speaker 1: count O'Neil on. I are so all right, let's come

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Speaker 1: back in a moment. On the Jaguars Radio Network, The

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1046
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