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Speaker 1: This is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive, and it is a Mike Tomlin Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin holding his press conference day in the aftermath

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Speaker 3: of the Steelers thirty two to thirteen win over the

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders and now Devonte Adamless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, adams Less, I should say.

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Speaker 4: Raiders.

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Speaker 3: And well, there's plenty of news coming out of this today, Matt,

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Speaker 3: and what going on in Steeler going across the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about the team you're gonna about to play,

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Speaker 4: the team you're gonna play, and all that.

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Speaker 3: We spend time yesterday talking about the teams that are

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Speaker 3: out of it are gonna start trading wide receivers and lo.

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Speaker 2: And behold boom, couple go right, we'll go uh.

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Speaker 3: But obviously the big topic here today in Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 3: what's going on at quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We

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Speaker 3: have some snippets from the Mike Tomlin news conference today

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Speaker 3: and I want to play these back and then we

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Speaker 3: might Now we'll talk about them when they're done. Let's

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Speaker 3: let's get to what Mike Tomlin had to say today,

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Speaker 3: how do you knock.

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Speaker 4: The rust off with Russell short of getting him into

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Speaker 4: a game, And at what point is that decision?

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Speaker 5: You know, you knock it off to a degree just

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Speaker 5: getting an inhal in helmet perspective on the work. There's

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Speaker 5: one thing to sit in meetings and digest football and

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Speaker 5: be a full participant like he's been, or to be

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Speaker 5: a guy behind the offensive group digesting it from that perspective.

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Speaker 5: But the inhelmet perspective and the reactionary seat to do

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Speaker 5: and some of those things, that's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: But there's also a totality of his resume as well

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Speaker 5: that makes you more comfortable than guys with shorter resumes

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Speaker 5: in that regard in terms of his ability to play

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Speaker 5: ball on a limited amount of exposure. You know, I

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Speaker 5: have that mentality at about guys across positions that we've

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Speaker 5: had that discussion before, veteran players. That's just comfort that

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Speaker 5: comes with experience, uh in in in some of those

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Speaker 5: you know, really sometimes uncomfortable discussions. You know, we're going

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Speaker 5: to determine that as we get closer to tomorrow. We

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Speaker 5: got some more strategic meetings today. But I'll acknowledge that

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Speaker 5: that Russ proved his health last week, Man, and we're

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Speaker 5: looking hard at it this week. It is up for consideration, Mike.

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Speaker 6: What what hasn't Justin done or what does he need

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Speaker 6: to do better? So you know, there, you guys are

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Speaker 6: foreign to to not just made him the startup.

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Speaker 5: No, Justin has been really good, and we've been really

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Speaker 5: good at times, but not to be confused with great man.

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Speaker 5: This is a competitive league, Man, We're trying to position

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Speaker 5: ourselves to be that team. And uh, we got a

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Speaker 5: player with talent who hadn't had an opportunity to play,

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna potentially explore those things. Sometimes it doesn't

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Speaker 5: necessarily have anything to do with what Justin has done

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Speaker 5: or has not done. Justin has been an asset to

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Speaker 5: us Man last week, for example, Man, his his ability

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Speaker 5: to utilize his less by design and by ad lib

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Speaker 5: was a significant component of that game. He rushed the

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Speaker 5: fifty plus yards in two touchdowns end game, and so

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Speaker 5: we're appreciative of that. We're appreciative of how he's taking

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Speaker 5: care of the ball. But we're just looking at all

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Speaker 5: the people at our disposal the same way that we

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Speaker 5: do at any position. We acquired you know, Torell Evans

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Speaker 5: a number of weeks back, who we have a history with,

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Speaker 5: and as soon as we got him up to speed

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Speaker 5: and got comfortable, we started considering ways to utilize his talents.

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Speaker 5: That's what you're doing this thing. You better have your

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Speaker 5: foot on the gas at all times. You better look

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Speaker 5: to divide the labor up in the most appropriate way

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Speaker 5: based on who's available to you and healthy. And that's

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Speaker 5: just simply what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 7: Like, is there a scenario where you utilized both quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: on Sunday night?

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Speaker 5: Certainly there's a scenario that could have been a scenario

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Speaker 5: where that could have occurred last week.

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Speaker 3: Fair to say that this is more of competition this

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Speaker 3: week in practice of Russ against his own state of readiness,

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Speaker 3: or is this a competition between Justin and Russ?

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Speaker 5: You know, I probably hadn't thought about it in that

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Speaker 5: way as you stated it. But really we're just gonna

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Speaker 5: roll the ball out and let let both guys work

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Speaker 5: and make decisions from.

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Speaker 6: There, like when you play to make a decision or not, I.

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Speaker 8: Don't know close to the game time.

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Speaker 6: Is there something you're looking specifically each one of those

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Speaker 6: leading up the week to help you make that decision.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking for.

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Speaker 5: Top quality play man and winning, not only from them,

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Speaker 5: from all of us. That's what's required in our business.

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Speaker 4: That's what you saw from last week from Russ. What

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Speaker 4: was he able to give you that you're looking doing.

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Speaker 8: You know, he just proved his health last week.

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Speaker 5: He proved his ability to protect himself, to move appropriately

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Speaker 5: within the pocket, to not be limited schematically in terms

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Speaker 5: of some of the things that we were capable of

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Speaker 5: doing or wanted to do. Those things had to happen

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Speaker 5: before we could seriously consider him and his talents, and

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Speaker 5: that happened a week ago.

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Speaker 6: You looked the guys like Calvin Austin and other guys.

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Speaker 4: That you guys receiving game that have been doing a

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Speaker 4: good job getting open that you guys think you can

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Speaker 4: capitalize more on with those your passing offense.

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Speaker 5: You know, at times we've got and open at times

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Speaker 5: we have it. That's just a function of football. And

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Speaker 5: so you know, say what you want will about about

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Speaker 5: you know that. I just think that's always a component

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Speaker 5: of football. There's always you know, plays left out there

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Speaker 5: for a variety.

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Speaker 8: Of reasons, Like when you do evaluate your quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: How much do you take into account like turnover worthy

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Speaker 6: plays that don't reserve reserve and turnovers like fumbles, it

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Speaker 6: recover dropt interceptions.

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Speaker 8: I take into account everything, like when you.

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Speaker 7: Look at Justin's ability to his mobility, the rushing of

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Speaker 7: things that he did in that Raiders game. Does Russell

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Speaker 7: have the same capabilities in terms of using his legs

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Speaker 7: in a similar way that Justin does?

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Speaker 8: No, he does not. Justin's legs are an X factor.

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Speaker 4: How does that change your offense and its Russ is

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Speaker 4: in it?

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Speaker 5: You know, it remains to be seen. And I think

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Speaker 5: that's one of the cute things about this discussion.

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Speaker 4: Mike, As you make.

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Speaker 9: Your decision about the quarterbacks this we can Would it

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Speaker 9: be fair to say that going forward, whoever you pick,

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Speaker 9: both guys are healthy, that that player is going to

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Speaker 9: be a deposition until health and performance.

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Speaker 8: No, that would not be fair to say.

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Speaker 9: What makes this different than you were forgn to last year?

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Speaker 9: And you know you had Kenny's numbers were not great.

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Speaker 9: Stuck with Kenny, you said, we're only judged by wins.

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Speaker 9: Judging by that, the justice record is the same. Why

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Speaker 9: why experiment with Russ?

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Speaker 5: The people are different it's a different journey. I'm very

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Speaker 5: cautious about drawing parallels between one year and another. The

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Speaker 5: myriad of variables in our decision making in this game

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Speaker 5: are such that it's a fruitless endeavor. It's never as

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Speaker 5: simple as it seems, respectfully.

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Speaker 4: To the personalities that people involved coming to the equation.

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Speaker 8: When you're talking about the idea to open up a

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Speaker 8: competition of the position like quarterback at this time.

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Speaker 5: Of the year, there's a like, as I just said there,

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Speaker 5: the variables are endless.

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Speaker 8: You've seen those guys respond to the situation personally.

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Speaker 5: I love the spirit in which they come to work

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Speaker 5: throughout this entire process. Both guys, highly professional, highly competitive, supportive,

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Speaker 5: top quality people.

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Speaker 3: Top quality people, And as we heard there, I got

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Speaker 3: to tell you I've been to every Mike Tomlin press

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Speaker 3: conference since he's been the head coach, been there for

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Speaker 3: you know, every postgame stuff.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is starting this week. Oh it sure seems

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Speaker 2: that way. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've been kind of hinting or reading the

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Speaker 4: tea leaves that this is probably on the horizon. I

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Speaker 4: think that's the right move, and there's no reason to

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Speaker 4: tell the Jets that today.

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Speaker 2: That's why you don't come out and say it right.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, But I think the time is now not

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Speaker 4: an indictment on fields. No, I mean he's done quite

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Speaker 4: quite a lot of good stuff. It does sound like

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Speaker 4: both are good quality people and putting in the work

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Speaker 4: and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it's a good situation.

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Speaker 4: It's not like some of these quarterback situations where you

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Speaker 4: have nothing, you know. I mean we kind of played

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Speaker 4: one of those teams, you know, that kind of searching

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Speaker 4: for the position. A lot of things to take away

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Speaker 4: in that. Why I think it's a good move is, yes,

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Speaker 4: you lose something, You lose a lot with the rushing

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Speaker 4: and the legs and all those things. But it makes

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Speaker 4: me a little crazy that people think Russell Wilson some

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Speaker 4: kind of stiff you know, like they had.

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Speaker 3: Three hundred and forty rushing yards last season. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: fifteen games in three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Right, you average like twenty two rushing yards a game.

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Speaker 4: Ye, a lot. He still moves well.

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Speaker 3: And he still threw twenty touchdown passes. In the red zone,

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Speaker 3: you are allowed to throw the ball into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Into the end zone.

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Speaker 4: I And that was definitely one of my big bullet

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Speaker 4: points of red zone passing, touchdowns in general, through the air,

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Speaker 4: deep ball passing. You know, if you're going to live

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Speaker 4: with crowded boxes, which they absolutely are going to until

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Speaker 4: further notice, you have to hit the deep shots and

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Speaker 4: fields hasn't been enough, you know.

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Speaker 3: And to me goes back mat again to the to

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Speaker 3: the play action stuff that they've been They've done it, Oh,

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Speaker 3: they've done it, but they haven't done.

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Speaker 2: It successfully with fields At quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They're averaging less than five yards per play on play

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Speaker 3: action passes. Russell Wilson last season in Denver, behind not

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Speaker 3: a very good offensive line, No, not a loaded group

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Speaker 3: at all, right, average eight point six yards per play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's night and day.

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Speaker 4: If you're averaging five yards of play period as an offense,

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Speaker 4: that's not great, you know what I mean, let alone

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Speaker 4: off play action, which you should probably get at least

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Speaker 4: a yard bump across the league, if not more. I

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Speaker 4: definitely think some of the procedural quarterback above the next

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Speaker 4: stuff is going to improve a great deal. I also

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Speaker 4: think that the fumbles are a problem. That's six of them,

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Speaker 4: six the most.

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Speaker 3: Everybody just glosses that over like because they haven't been turnovers. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but you're not going to recover cover all your fumbles.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, No, They've been very fortunate thus far to

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Speaker 3: recover all but one one of those fumbles. And it

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Speaker 3: doesn't work that way in the NFL. All the things,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna even out. Yeah, and that's a

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Speaker 3: big part of it. You heard Tomlin, you know, when

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Speaker 3: he was asked, you know, do you take all of

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Speaker 3: that into consideration?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There was also the interception that gott negated by the

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Speaker 3: penalty on the on the Raiders on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You take that into account, like he threw that.

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Speaker 4: Ball, yep, yep. A couple of numbers. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to say Wilson is in his prime or in

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Speaker 4: his best year. No, but there are some trends about

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Speaker 4: Absolutely because it makes it that much harder to prepare for.

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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, and you know you got two home

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Speaker 4: Then you have your buy.

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Speaker 3: This is the perfect time to do this, you know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe give him a couple of easy throws, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we want to be great. How do you

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Speaker 3: I mean, what makes you a better football team, a

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Speaker 4: And no one would argue the offense has been great.

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Speaker 3: Fields has been good and he's accounted for ten touchdowns

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the right move. I'm really excited

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Speaker 4: let it ripe, go throw guys open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know all these guys are you know at this

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Speaker 2: With one catch. With one catch, yeah, when he's out

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk.

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Speaker 4: About Rogers a lot this week, but he still throws

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Speaker 2: They just see it.

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Speaker 4: It, you know, throw down the middle to Uh.

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Speaker 2: That one was insane, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: It buzzes right past it. It basically went under the

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't Lazard was not open. It wasn't open.

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Speaker 4: But if I put the ball right there, maybe he'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what that's why you went out and

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Speaker 3: And now you know, we'll get an opportunity to see that,

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 4: The war makes the offense much more dangerous, much more dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 4: I think this is like getting good news like Fraser's

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Speaker 4: they're trying to win, trying to win. They're foreign too.

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Speaker 3: And nobody listen to what Art Rooney the second had

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Speaker 4: We need to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: that's the goal. The goal is to win playoff games.

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Speaker 4: There's a guarantee any of them will be back, you

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Speaker 4: it's time to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's time to win now, and you know, make

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Speaker 3: They could have made the fields traded at any time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: They chose to go get Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, and now we're gonna see it, and

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Speaker 4: I'm excited about it. I think the offense will be better.

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Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, actually throwing the football averaging

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Speaker 3: more than one hundred and sixty five passing yards per

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Speaker 3: game will be a big.

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Speaker 4: Deal to be over two hundred. I mean, no matter

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Speaker 4: who your receivers are, and no matter how teams play you,

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Speaker 4: and it will put out the running game.

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Speaker 2: It will, it will.

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Speaker 3: I just don't I don't understand again. It's it's it's

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Speaker 3: like everybody is locked in. You're either on one side

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Speaker 3: or the other.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that at all.

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Speaker 4: You can like both guys, yeah, because I think the

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Speaker 4: team does, and I think these aren't. This isn't Montana

461
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Speaker 4: and Young battling it out and not talking and having

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Speaker 4: a bad situation. Yeah, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and when ten or eleven games this year,

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Speaker 3: I'd be perfectly fine bringing both those guys back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, no question. You know, that's a great

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Speaker 2: situation to have.

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Speaker 4: And the age difference makes that, yeah, makes it perfect.

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Speaker 4: A little more logical too, right right. So anyways, let's

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Speaker 4: get to a breaks. Obviously the story of the day,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's a good one.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I talked a lot about potential trades for

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Speaker 3: wide receivers yesterday, and lo and behold, two of them

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Speaker 3: happened today, including one that involves the team that the

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Speaker 3: Steelers play on Sunday. Let's talk about that next. He

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Speaker 3: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to.

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Speaker 8: Seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Nation Radio, And welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt wake up this morning.

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Speaker 3: And DeVante Adams is now a New York Jet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: after they lost last night twenty three to twenty to

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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills to fall to two and four, three

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Speaker 3: game losing streak, three game losing streak, fired the coach

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Speaker 3: last week, make a big trade this week.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of shuffling the chairs on the deck of

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Speaker 3: the Titanic here because a little bit I saw a

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Speaker 3: thing somebody tweeted out, you know, and put all the

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Speaker 3: all the skill position players at the Jets on eur

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Speaker 3: and who's what's stopping this? And I said, the offensive

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Speaker 3: line pretty bad last year.

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Speaker 4: Offensive lines often it's really was really bad last year,

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Speaker 4: and as a whole it's been pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that it'll get better.

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Speaker 4: It looks like they have good players, but collectively, I

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Speaker 4: forget how Collins were said it last night. He's like,

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Speaker 4: I don't see bad players here, but collectively it's been

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Speaker 4: really a problem.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers got the snot beat out of him last night.

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Speaker 2: He did, and doesn't look happy about it at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's unpeeled.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do think the Jets now have the

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Speaker 4: best skill position players in the whole league. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it makes them better, There's just no doubt about it. It

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Speaker 4: would makes them very difficult to play. Yeah, it would

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Speaker 4: have made the Bills better, to made the Ravens better,

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Speaker 4: made the Steelers better.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good player.

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Speaker 4: I also think that, you know, I've dug so much

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Speaker 4: into the Jets. Of course, it's been thirteen years since

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Speaker 4: they've made the playoffs, by far, the longest drought in

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 2: Next seton next one is eight. I mean, like it's.

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Speaker 4: Bad times, you know, And majority of leagues three or

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Speaker 4: less on a three game losing Street and as you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: has fired the coach. So they're pushing everything in like

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Speaker 4: it's something though they have Rogers maybe just the rest

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Speaker 4: of this year. Yeah, And the off season was like

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Speaker 4: that before this trade Tyron Smith and guys like that

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Speaker 4: Morgan Moses. I mean they were fragile, I think is

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Speaker 4: the word we use for their rosters, like to see,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's somewhere between aggressive and desperate. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure Rogers has some influence. Who cares, who's

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Speaker 4: in charge whatever, the owners in charge, and I think they.

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Speaker 2: Want results now.

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Speaker 4: So the only thing I'll fight you on with the

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Speaker 4: you know, the deck chairs on the Titanic thing.

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Speaker 2: Is the AFC is still there for them.

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Speaker 4: I hear. That's they're the only part that makes them sense.

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Speaker 4: But like, I don't think they're so.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't make them a super Bowl contender in mind

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Speaker 3: me either. Their run defense is bad too.

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Speaker 4: Run defense is bad, and frankly, if they don't beat

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, this is pretty close to a must win,

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Speaker 4: you know, like the season's pretty close.

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Speaker 2: To shot if you start out two and five. Yeah, So.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to take that from a Steeler perspective,

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Speaker 4: except for I don't know if Porter follows either one

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Speaker 4: now things like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I mean they're definitely harder to play against.

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Speaker 4: We don't even know how much Devonte Adams plays this week, right, right, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Remember he had a hamstring injury. He was in New

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Speaker 3: York today, so good for him, and so he's in

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Speaker 3: the building. Yeah, but is he ready to be one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent contributor.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know who the heck knows,

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Speaker 4: And I do think the hamstring injury wasn't all made up.

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Speaker 2: I think there was something there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The other thing is are the Jets restructuring him

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Speaker 4: or are they renting him?

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Speaker 3: I think they're basically I mean again, if Rogers retires

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Speaker 3: after this season, they're renting him because.

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Speaker 4: He ain't going back there. No, I mean, we looked

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Speaker 4: into his contract and they're basically playing paying him a

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Speaker 4: million bucks a week for the rest of the year,

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Speaker 4: give or take. The Raiders didn't take any of the money.

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Speaker 4: It was very important. Then they had to give up

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Speaker 4: a third round draft pick to do it. That could

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Speaker 4: become a second.

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Speaker 2: Although the chances are slim.

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Speaker 3: The chances he'd have to be first team or second

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Speaker 3: team All Pro and or I should say, they would

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Speaker 3: have to make the AFC Championship I think, or the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Which I find really stupid by the way, because you

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Speaker 4: can't do one without the other, the Championship.

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Speaker 2: If he makes the super Bowl, they didn't just let

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Speaker 2: you skip the.

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Speaker 4: Championship game, right, And we're talking about the Jets here, folks, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, so even if he tears it up, he

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Speaker 4: missed two games, I mean, chance in being a first

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Speaker 4: or second team.

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Speaker 2: All Pro Pro Bowl it's slim.

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Speaker 4: So it's probably a three, which isn't a crazy price,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean I would have considered it from

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Speaker 4: a Steelers perspective round bills. But that was what I

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Speaker 4: say is I need to have a contract in place now,

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Speaker 4: you know, we talked about that a week or so ago,

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Speaker 4: like not just to let because whoever attains him on

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Speaker 4: this contract, anyone, any of the thirty two teams is

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Speaker 4: going to cut him because he's a thirty five million

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Speaker 4: dollars cap hit or thirty six or thirty something like that.

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Speaker 4: There's two seasons after this one, right, so he is

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Speaker 4: going to get the rest of this money, and that's

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Speaker 4: it if I would have had a deal with them

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Speaker 4: in place. And I find it funny that the Jets

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Speaker 4: just did this with Reddick and didn't have a deal

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Speaker 4: in place, and he hasn't played for him once. I mean,

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Speaker 4: of all the teams that could do this, so whatever,

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Speaker 4: that's their problem. But that's the caveat I would have

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Speaker 4: had in terms of from a Steeler perspective, is I

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Speaker 4: have to have a contract I like and he likes

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Speaker 4: going forward more than just the next ten games or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this I mean to me, this was also an

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Speaker 2: old team getting older. Exactly. They're all in for this year.

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Speaker 4: And where's that, Levia? Yeah right, no draft picks, but

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Speaker 4: no draft picks and a lot of potentially quarterbacks, right,

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Speaker 4: and you know, and you got to win this year,

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Speaker 4: which means, I mean in your two and four, three

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Speaker 4: game losing streak with a new coach and let's be on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I never thought that Devonte Adams to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: stuff was a possibility, No really, because this is where he.

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Speaker 4: Wanted to go. Yeah yeah, so he got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: good for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: But and if the Steelers offer a third round pick

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Speaker 4: and the Bills offered a third round pick and the

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Speaker 4: Jets offered a third round pick. I take the Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're two and four, two and four. The other two

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Speaker 4: are probably guns playoffs. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So we also saw Amari Cooper traded today to the

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. Folks, the Browns were not trading Amari Cooper

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Speaker 3: to the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: No, it wasn't happened. No, no, no, I mean we haven't

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Speaker 4: even brought that up. I mean, you can't get t Higgins,

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Speaker 4: you can't get Amary Cooper. You know, the same reason

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Speaker 4: DeVante Adams wasn't going to Kansas City exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: The division, Folks, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And if it does, you have to overpay to do it.

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Speaker 2: Too much? Yeah, too much.

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Speaker 4: You're taking a three and some other stuff from the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Well it's going to be a two if you're you

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Speaker 4: know the Steelers. So watched that game last night. They

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Speaker 4: both picked up a new receiver, a big name guy

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Speaker 4: that has had a lot of success. I think Buffalo

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Speaker 4: is better off for it. So I do too, you

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Speaker 4: know they I think they're truly a contender and have

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Speaker 4: missed the Stefan Diggs chain mover beat Man coverage. You know,

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Speaker 4: true X find it funny that Cooper's has said he

636
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Speaker 4: doesn't like playing in weather and he goes from Cleveland

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Speaker 4: to Buffalo. Yeah, but hey, look with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see how that goes.

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Speaker 4: But the biggest takeaway I think from a Steeler perspective

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Speaker 4: is the Browns are done.

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Speaker 2: The Browns have have waved the white flag. It's over.

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Speaker 2: Who's next? Yeah, I think you could.

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Speaker 4: So they are not done dealing. I'm sure. I mean

644
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Speaker 4: they got to eat. They gotta eat that trade, right right.

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Speaker 4: I mean I joked that could Miles Garrett ended up

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Speaker 4: in Detroit. I mean, I don't think that could happen,

647
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Speaker 4: but I bet there's three or four games you could

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Speaker 4: get there on the cheap to take off their payroll.

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Speaker 2: Not the Steelers, yes, but it could be had. And

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Speaker 2: they're done. One of those cornerbacks or you know, something.

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Speaker 4: Like that, Jack Conklin maybe or something else the last

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Speaker 4: year stores open, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're shot.

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Speaker 4: They're probably gonna end up with the top five pick.

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Speaker 2: And everyone knows.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy strength the schedule and stuff like that in

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Speaker 4: the offseason, but this is playing the Browns in the

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Speaker 4: late then the year looks a heck of a lot better

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Speaker 4: than it did when the schedule came out in.

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Speaker 2: July or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd hate.

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Speaker 2: To say, Wow, man, gonna win those. Both of our

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Speaker 2: Browns games are out of the way here.

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Speaker 4: And now they trade a Maury Cooper, you know, right right,

665
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: I mean you're gonna get a shell of a roster,

666
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: although quite frankly it hasn't mattered because they stink there

667
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: so bad the second pick of the draft right now.

668
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: I saw this today.

669
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: They haven't scored more than twenty points in their first

670
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: twenty or more points in their first six games. Yeah,

671
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: first team in ten NFL seasons to do that.

672
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: That's just twenty right, twenty. That's incredibly bad. I found

673
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: one today too. So Watson's been sacked thirty one times.

674
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: Second is Caleb Williams at twenty He's been sacked eleven

675
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: more time times than any quarterback in the league. Yeah,

676
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: it's open season on him. Yeah, I mean the line

677
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: is a problem, but he's a problem, you know, Like

678
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: it's just bad on bad on bad.

679
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bad football team. And now on receivers,

680
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: we'll see who else waves a white flag here? And

681
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: people are acting so There's been a lot of reaction

682
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: to this. In fact, one of the things trending on

683
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Twitter right now or the ex Twitter Steelers miss out

684
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: on wide receiver trades.

685
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: No, they haven't.

686
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that's done.

687
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: We're still like three weeks away from the trade deadline.

688
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, the Steelers bye week lines

689
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: up very nicely with the trade deadline.

690
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: I didn't thought that. Yeah, make that deal and get

691
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: some get that guy acclimated quickly.

692
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: And the guy we brought up yesterday happens to be

693
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: in Europe.

694
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't mean he can't get on a plane.

695
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: Yesterday traded the defensive tackle to Seattle while.

696
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: They're in London. Like, you go right here, that poor guy.

697
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go eastern, you go west.

698
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Maybe you just go straight over the top over Antarctica

699
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: or the North Pole. Wow, Santa Right, all your stuff's

700
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: back in Jacksonville. You packed to go to lunch, this

701
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: little bag, you know, right right now you're getting shipped

702
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: off to Seattle. Yeah, you can't be any farther away.

703
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: That's insane. That's pretty funny.

704
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: So I guess you could do it just because he's

705
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: those guys are in Europe. Doesn't mean they couldn't be

706
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh in a couple days or whatever.

707
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now that was like a reserve defensive tackle.

708
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: But Christian Kirk would look good in the Steelers' uniform.

709
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And there are other names that could be had.

710
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's getting to the point where

711
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: the have nots know that they're the have nots. You know,

712
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: it's not even just mathematical. I mean, like the Raiders

713
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: didn't have a terrible record before last week, but knew

714
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: they were a have not. You know for sure.

715
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: I was just looking here week seven, who might lose

716
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: and decide this week that they're done? The Patriots are done,

717
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: but we knew that.

718
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: They don't never see her either.

719
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: The Saints play on Thursday night. It's getting bad quick,

720
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: and your quarterback's hurt. I don't know that it's crazy

721
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: to think he won't have a job to that head coach.

722
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: Maybe it's the off season, but yeah, I don't know

723
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: if a lave somebody could get though. Yeah, I don't

724
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: think he could at this point.

725
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: I think he's too much of a building block.

726
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Shaheed's young and cheap too.

727
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that there's a target there for you.

728
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: The Titans play the Bills on Sunday.

729
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Hopkins is an easy one.

730
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: They're not winning that game. They're gonna be probably not. Yeah,

731
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: they're gonna be one in five or one and six.

732
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if they've had their Yeah, theyve had

733
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: their buyas, so they'll be one in five. I think

734
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: Ridley is probably a long shot to move, but I

735
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: think Hopkins you could get for nothing. The Seahawks are

736
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: at the Falcons. I don't think it's cash it in

737
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: time for Seattle with a loss. Yeah, I don't think

738
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: they're quite there yet, but it hasn't gone well. They

739
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: like Bobo, and I wonder if they want to get

740
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: Bobo more playing time.

741
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: That sounds like we're.

742
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: Talking about, right, like a circus act. Yeah, Lockett would

743
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: be the target. Tyler Lockett would be the guy.

744
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has relationship with Wilson, right, that would make

745
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: a lot of sense.

746
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: I doubt it'll be this week, but maybe a week

747
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: from now.

748
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

749
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I from what I understand, I've looked at

750
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: a while, but I think they're really up against.

751
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: The cap for next year.

752
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: They are. I mean, I think they're like.

753
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: The bottle of League. Yeah, I mean Metcalf would be

754
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: a pie in the sky.

755
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, and I'm not sure that's insanity. I mean

756
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: this the cost he's going to be high. I say,

757
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: he's going to be probably more expensive than anybody. The

758
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: guys are moved yet today.

759
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, his volatility scares me a little bit too.

760
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to have them, but oh yeah, I

761
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: mean make you a better team. The Bengals are at

762
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: the Browns this week. Well, that's that's already been casting.

763
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: Eagles. Eagles are at the Giants.

764
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: If the Giants lose that one, Slayton, I think Slayton,

765
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: Darius Slayton could be available.

766
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it may be useful to I don't think

767
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: it'd be really expensive.

768
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: Raiders are at the Rams. I mean, if they lose,

769
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: you're a really bad team.

770
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

771
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: I don't know that it would be crazy to move

772
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: Cups soon before the deadline. Yeah, I mean there's.

773
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: They got some younger guys there now that they could

774
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: just say, you know what, we're going to move forward

775
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: with the with these guys, We're not going anywhere this year.

776
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: Let's get something for Cooper now.

777
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I don't know if they'd move Stafford and

778
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 4: totally go all the way in. He's such a face,

779
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, Donald's gone. I mean it's it's.

780
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: The who would trade for Stafford right now?

781
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, like, you know, consider the

782
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: Miami or you know that that's probably an awesome yeah thing.

783
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 2: I mean the Saints probably not, probably not.

784
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: Right right, I mean they can't have the money for that.

785
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: The Panthers are at the Commanders, you know, probably not

786
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: trading for Deontay Johnson.

787
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: I wouldn't think so, but I think he could go.

788
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he might end up with the Chiefs.

789
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: They're playing the forty nine ers.

790
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if it solves your problems, but it's

791
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: feeling healthy. No, yeah, okay, so you can get him

792
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: for a back of chips. Really, those are the those

793
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: are the games. I mean, the other ones are all

794
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: involved teams that are you know, not sellers. Yeah, you know,

795
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: but in Jacksonville and Jacksonville, which yeah, yeah, yeah, they're

796
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: playing the Patriots are probably gonna win this week. Yeah.

797
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's if they lost though, yeah,

798
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: good point, they lost. They might just everybody fire sale.

799
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: Everything's got to go. Yeah, and a probably a receiver

800
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: we're not thinking about too.

801
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure there's gonna be somebody out there available,

802
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: you know that. Yeah, we're not we're not thinking of

803
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: right now that you know, could be available. But I

804
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: mean those are the those are the names that come

805
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: to mind when we talk about these teams. And yeah,

806
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: there's there's plenty available out there that.

807
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: Kirk's probably still my favorite too, Yeah, mine too, of

808
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: what you could get because he's got another year left

809
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: on the contract.

810
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not insane. It's like twenty million Locket's appealing.

811
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure he's They're I'm not sure they're sellers,

812
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: you know, like Bobo, Yeah, and Smith and Jag was good. Oh,

813
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: you can roll out metcalf and and fans not a

814
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: bad receiver either, right, you know, I mean like they

815
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't miss them all that much. No, you know, they wouldn't.

816
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: Their season wouldn't go down the toilet.

817
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: What has happened here though, in the last twenty four

818
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 3: hours Matt is that two of the teams who were

819
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: looking for wide receivers are now off the dock. They're

820
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: gone right, right right, So the other teams are now

821
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: backing up to the loading dock and saying, Okay.

822
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: If Kansas City thought they had a deal for Amari

823
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: or whatever, now, I think the price goes down because

824
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: there aren't as many.

825
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: It's it's musical receivers. Let's do the same thing with.

826
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: I'm just scan. I'm just going division by division. I

827
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: think the East is done now. Yeah, I don't think

828
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: the Bengals are Browns.

829
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: Browns aren't trading for one right, Sure, maybe the Ravens,

830
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: I don't see that.

831
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: I think Jay Flowers and Bateman's playing well enough and

832
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 4: they're featuring the elect tight ends or where they're running

833
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: the football. They they have a very specific way to play,

834
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: and I think they're happy with that. Okay, so that's

835
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: two divisions out of the way. I don't think Houston's

836
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: in the market, Nope. Tennessee would be a seller. Yeah,

837
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: Jacksonville'll be a seller. The Colts are in the Market's

838
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: have plenty. Yeah, Denver, I don't see that. I think

839
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 4: they would be crazy to invest in a locket or

840
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: something like that. Chargers maybe maybe start winning games, but

841
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: they want to run the football, I think yeah. I

842
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: mean I think they look at it late next year's project. Yeah,

843
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: if you could add a Lockett for cheap or Kirk.

844
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: I mean maybe I think the Chiefs would still be

845
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: listening Locker. They would be Lockett would be kind of redundant,

846
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: only he's not a great fit, which, as I said that,

847
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: I thought that too, But maybe they'd like Kirk.

848
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean somebody physical.

849
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: Mike Williams is the guy you get for nothing to

850
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: by the way, that doesn't really appeal to me. Yeah,

851
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: the Raiders are no, right, I'd say Dallas is a

852
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: no unlikely Yeah, probably not. What about Washington? I mean

853
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: a traded one that the Eagles don't use and their

854
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: season is taking a turn for the better, see playing fine.

855
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they wouldn't change the mojo there, right,

856
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: Eagles aren't nope, Giants are no nope, Bears are no.

857
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: Packers are no. They got too many already. I don't

858
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: think the Vikes would be interested, Lions are probably not. No,

859
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: Saints wouldn't invest. Atlanta's got plenty, Tampa's got plenty, Arizona's fine.

860
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 4: Carolina is no, Arizona's fine. Rams. I don't think sellers

861
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: not buyers. Niners have plenty. And we talked about Seattle,

862
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: so again that two or three teams.

863
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: The pools pool is.

864
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: Much smaller now and there's probably some teams that might

865
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: look at this and go, we got to get something

866
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: for this guy, because you can be free agent at

867
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: the end of the year or he just.

868
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: Doesn't get a little bit in the next week or so. Yeah,

869
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: So don't panic.

870
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: That's the that's the thing here, and the Steelers aren't

871
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: going to panic. They've been in this market for a

872
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: long time now, and they've been in then.

873
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: They talk to every one of those teams. I'm sure

874
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: they've talked to them all.

875
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: They've been in the mix, but they haven't found the

876
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: right deal yet. And oh, by the way, they're four

877
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: and two.

878
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: And they're foreign two and it's working fine, and making

879
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: a quarterback change it might boost what they have a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Yeah, so we'll see. Let's get to another break.

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Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lewy.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt,

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Speaker 3: and now I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold ca inr Steelers Nation. Radio.

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00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly, he is Dean, Matt Williamson and Matt

889
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: dis Jets team Well today, just placed safety starting safety

890
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: John Clark on IR. That's not going to make their

891
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: run defense any better.

892
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: No, No, they're giving up about one.

893
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty five rushing yards per game. And if

894
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: you look at it, one hundred and eighty against the

895
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, one hundred and thirty against the Titans,

896
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: who don't.

897
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: Necessarily Yeah, say that's an alarming.

898
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: One seventy eight against the Patriots, but who only had

899
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: sixty one passing yards in that game.

900
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's broken offense.

901
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty six against the Broncos, who don't

902
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: necessarily run the ball real well, eighty two against the Vikings,

903
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: but that was a game that Aaron Jones got hurt in.

904
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: And then lastly, one hundred and forty nine to the

905
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, who were playing without James Cook, their number

906
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: one running back.

907
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.

908
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 4: Felt like sometimes watching it live, we were talking off.

909
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: The air, had a hundred rushing yards in the first half.

910
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it feels different than the numbers. And I

911
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: felt like last night the Bills could pretty much get

912
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: what they needed to do on the ground. Yeah, you know,

913
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: without question. So a couple things. It's the number show

914
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: they are six the worst in what they call stuff rate,

915
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: which is gains of negative yardage.

916
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: Or in other words, you gain yards against them pretty

917
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: majority of the time.

918
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: Yes, they don't allow a lot of explosive plays overall,

919
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 4: but I think you get chunk yardage. But that kind

920
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: of is how the Steelers play anyway, you know what

921
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Like they're they got more explosives this past week.

922
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: But if you can can consistently get four or five,

923
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: I think the Steelers will take that all day long.

924
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and that's kind of been their mo.

925
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

926
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: Uh so I think you should be able to have

927
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: some success against this team. Yeah, there's some of the

928
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: other things that stand out about them. They've got Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

929
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: they're nine of seventeen in the red zone scoring TOUCHDOWNSKA

930
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: fifty two point nine percent.

931
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: They've also been very past happy.

932
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: They much Yeah.

933
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 3: Right, Rogers has been sacked. We're talking about field sex.

934
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: He's been sacked sixteen times already. Yeah, and he's.

935
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: Taking some big hits.

936
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't like to get hit anymore, right, that's that's

937
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: one hundred percent true. Most of the older quarterbacks don't, no, right,

938
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: but he's at that state, especially coming off a major injury.

939
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: You could just.

940
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: Tell, you know that so many of those guys that

941
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 4: played to that age don't defend themselves as well, don't

942
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 4: take hits as well, hurt a lot more than that day.

943
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: You know, Like he's sore today, there's no question about it.

944
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: On a short week, you know, preparing for the Steelers

945
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: and the sea was gonna hit them and that offensive

946
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: line they have a lot invested in, but they're not

947
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: getting their you know, payment on their or getting what

948
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: they should out of what they've paid for those guys. Yeah.

949
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: The other big thing is penalties. Penalties are brutal. The

950
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: penalties are awful, awful, and it was bad last last.

951
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: It was the most penalized game in the whole league.

952
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 3: Watching that game, Yeah, these these standalone games, you see

953
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: the flags fly like crazy for whatever reason.

954
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: That was the most.

955
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was there was this was even like

956
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: we had several instances last night in that game where

957
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: New York when they're in New York, but the league

958
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: officer is buzzing in and overturning stuff and overruling things.

959
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know if that's good for the

960
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: game or not.

961
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: I don't know why we have challenge flags anymore, right,

962
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: I mean like I'm fine with getting everything right. I'm

963
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: cool with that, don't get me wrong. And personally I

964
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: don't mind the stoppages and play to get it right.

965
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: But I'm not the average fan either, you know, like

966
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: people that just see we're going to hold this play

967
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: up get pretty sick of it quickly. But to the

968
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: original point, I mean, they've been committed. And when I

969
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: say committed, that's ones that have been taken. I might

970
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: even call on the declined ones or there's two flags

971
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: on the same play or whatever. Fifty penalties this year,

972
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 4: I mean only Houston's more. I mean it's very much

973
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: a problem for.

974
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Them, absolutely, and you know, they just not played smart football.

975
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 4: I mean, like this is a small thing I dug up.

976
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 4: But the Steelers have gained eighteen first downs via penalty,

977
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: you know, like you get a defensive pass interference called

978
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: first down Steelers. Steelers' opponents have only gained five, So

979
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: you're like plus thirteen in just that, just in that category.

980
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: But the Jets are the opposite. They're eight more penalties

981
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: that they've given up, their more first downs.

982
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: They only had three in the first game against the

983
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers, been more recent. And here's the big thing.

984
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: Everybody talks about those two cornerbacks and they're good.

985
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: You know what, the most one of what you got

986
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: hurt last night, The most.

987
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: Often called penalty against the Jets thus far has been

988
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: defensive pass interference.

989
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: Doesn't totally surprise me with their style play too.

990
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's gonna get them grabby. People talk about

991
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: this with Joey Porter junior. Oh he's too grabby. He's

992
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: too grabby. So a Sauce Gardner, so is.

993
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: Red all those stuff. When you have that length like

994
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 4: Sauce and Porter and those guys too. And they ask,

995
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: if you're gonna.

996
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Play a lot of and do that, you're gonna you're

997
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: gonna gets The Steelers haven't gotten a bunch of them

998
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: this year, these guys have.

999
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: So just to stick with the penalty theme. How to

1000
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 4: get back to the Jets, but the Steelers. The Steeler

1001
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: penalty problems are pre snap only. The Browns have more

1002
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: pre snap penalties than.

1003
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: The and a lot of that to me, is all

1004
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: the young guys that you've had to roll Wilson might

1005
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: help it.

1006
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of my put in the pro

1007
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: columns for Wilson. Not the fields doesn't know what he's doing.

1008
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: But someone's been around a lot longer. It is gonna

1009
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: get people in now, the huddle aligned, all that stuff.

1010
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: I would imagine, you know.

1011
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: Just for reference point, the average, the league average for

1012
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: defensive pass interference calls against you is three point twenty five.

1013
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: Yards your time.

1014
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, okay, how many actually take the number how

1015
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: many you've taken.

1016
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: It's a yardage penalty. Two is going to be high, right.

1017
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: They've had given one hundred and forty two yards on

1018
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: eight defensive pass interference penalties, so almost you know, twenty

1019
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: yards per game or per time. There are almost five

1020
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: pass interference penalties over the next closest team.

1021
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: It's like one more per game. It's one more per game,

1022
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: which is a big chunk play per game, almost like

1023
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: giving up an explosive per game.

1024
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a lot. I mean, it's not

1025
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: just a first down. Maybe it's three because you've gave

1026
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: them a thirty yard.

1027
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: You know, pi. I mean my point difference between a

1028
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: field goal or a punt, right, I mean easily, yeah,

1029
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: so long completion. Something to keep an eye on there. Somehow,

1030
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: they've only been called for seven holding penalties on offense.

1031
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Which maybe they should hold more.

1032
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: I think all of them were last night. Actually, yeah,

1033
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 4: they should probably start doing it more and see if

1034
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: they get away keep their quarterback up.

1035
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: I I kind of got the idea of why Baltimore

1036
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: moved on from Morgan Moses last night.

1037
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: Because yeah, he was like sluggish, and I mean I

1038
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: think they knew that when they drafted the Penn State

1039
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: kid too. If they try to leave a placeholder, Hey, Morgan,

1040
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: you faced TJ want before you stay on that island

1041
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: against TJ. Wat yeh luck with that now high Smith's back.

1042
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 4: I mean, Smith's still a good player, but not the same,

1043
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, and it's problematic. Where was I going with this?

1044
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: Another nugget I just heard the announcers say last night

1045
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: that I jotted down is the Jets have the most

1046
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: former first round picks on their roster of any team

1047
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: in the league. The fourteen. Not all of them are

1048
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: Jet drafted. A lot of them are, Yeah, a lot

1049
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: of them aren't. But they've got a lot of high

1050
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 4: pedigree dudes.

1051
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: They got a lot of old dudes.

1052
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: They just added another one, you know, a couple hours ago,

1053
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: you know, not a first round pick, but a high pedigree,

1054
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, accomplished guy. It's just a weird team build.

1055
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: They're a little bit different than the other teams in

1056
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 4: the league that way. Yeah.

1057
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: By the way, Reid, DJ Reid has five of.

1058
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Those pass interference penalties, does it okay? Basically one per game.

1059
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: I mean he gets a lot of targets. Yeah, I

1060
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: mean they're they're a left right team, but I would

1061
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 4: imagine a lot of teams move receivers around to face him.

1062
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: And he holds up. Well, that's the thing in this game.

1063
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious about his injuries.

1064
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see how much the Steelers say,

1065
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: you know what, We're just not gonna put George Pickens

1066
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: over there on that side because we know Sauce Gardner

1067
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 4: is going to be on that side.

1068
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: We'll put them on this side.

1069
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, if Reid's hurt, does Gardner just face Pickings?

1070
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: And I don't know that they reevaluate that or not.

1071
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1072
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: I mean, because red they trust looks like it kind

1073
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: of similar to the Steelers.

1074
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: But if you don't, if you're not a team that travels,

1075
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: you don't suddenly start traveling.

1076
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: I know, rare.

1077
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: I mean the Steelers did when Porter made, but then

1078
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 4: they consistently started doing then they did it from here

1079
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: on now. Yeah, right or right, And it's almost like

1080
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 4: what Dante Jackson's becoming though too. It's like we really

1081
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 4: like you against too, Yeah, you know, right, absolutely, but

1082
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: Jackson has to travel because of Porter.

1083
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: Right, right, let's get to a break that's going to

1084
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: do it for our number one of the drive here

1085
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

1086
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: back with our number two right after this