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Speaker 1: Reveale.

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Speaker 2: Look at us.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jesus will be luck. It's time down.

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Speaker 1: We'll put the ratchet to the side of your face

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Speaker 1: like a cell phone. What's up, everybody? It is Friday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty first of twenty twenty five, and it's time

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Speaker 1: for morning combat. Hello, over the one. I am merely

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Speaker 1: one half of your hosting duo. I join you from

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Speaker 1: the capital of the status of Nedos right here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Joined by this gentleman over there. Look at

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Speaker 1: look at Look at this pale, pasty bastard. He's the

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Speaker 1: king of Connecticut though. It's Brian Campbell. What's up, BC ah.

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Speaker 2: Look, Wow, what a time to be alive. Great to

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Speaker 2: be back on this show for this Friday Morning True

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Speaker 2: or False. Our rundown because of the headlines this week

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Speaker 2: and the events going on, was so loaded that we

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Speaker 2: couldn't even fit in room for a segment on Steve

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Speaker 2: Bennon's Nazi salute yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, you know what, Hey, it turns out

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Trump administration have autism.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this, you know, apparently that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Anyway, what a time to be what for Anyway, uh,

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Speaker 2: did you see, by the way, breaking news from Boxing

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Speaker 2: scene dot com just before we start here. We're all excited,

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Speaker 2: of course for the biggest fight card of all time,

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Speaker 2: the Last Crescendo on his own on Saturday, but they're

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Speaker 2: moving the event from a twenty five thousand seed arena

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Speaker 2: to a six thousand seat one.

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Speaker 1: That that is, we're going to break down the cart

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Speaker 1: in detail NBC. Even with the changes, the card is

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Speaker 1: still pretty great.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if it's still an A minus dude,

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Speaker 2: anyone that's trying to downgrade it more than that. It's

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Speaker 2: like it's still a dream.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if it's like the best

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Speaker 1: card ever, but it's obviously still very very good. However,

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Speaker 1: it just goes to show. Listen, he who pays the

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Speaker 1: piper calls the tune. If Saudi's footing the bill, they

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Speaker 1: get to put the fights wherever they want, and that's

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Speaker 1: just I guess the way that this goes. But it's

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Speaker 1: just hard to deny that the atmosphere there and continuously

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Speaker 1: is just really never all that great. Even at the Emirates,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Dubai or Abu Dhabi, it just feels like

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Speaker 1: UFC or even PFL. It feels like it's just a

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Speaker 1: lot better. So I guess it's better that they it'll

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more intimate in the sense that

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Speaker 1: it'll be a livelier crowd. Sure, but dude, like you know,

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Speaker 1: these fights deserve a gigantic audience. Putting them in Saudi

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Speaker 1: just sometimes mostly if they're alive event anyway, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you could put that fight on the

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Speaker 2: moon and we'd still be watching and getting excited about it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, indeed.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's set the table here if we can.

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Speaker 1: As you indicated, there is so much to do today.

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Speaker 1: First on the dock and we had that slate of

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Speaker 1: insane UFC announcements related to the featherweight division, UFC three fourteen,

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Speaker 1: UFC three fifteen, UFC London. We're gonna get to all

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Speaker 1: of that. Plus, as we just indicated, how about the

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Speaker 1: boxing card this weekend, Just a phenomenal card, even with

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Speaker 1: all the changes and all the craziness, there's still a

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Speaker 1: lot to like on that one. And then how can

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Speaker 1: we forget BC You still got the what do you

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Speaker 1: want to say? The Tira Massou, the flon thatres Letty

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Speaker 1: is to the rest of the meal, which of course

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Speaker 1: is going to be Henry Shudo taking on song You

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Speaker 1: little gems on that card. We'll get to all of that.

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Speaker 1: have it. Here are our socials and you can follow

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Speaker 1: also our YouTube channels, the Brian Campbell Experience for that gentleman,

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Speaker 1: and then just Luke Thomas for me BC. Before we

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Speaker 1: go any further, I know I have to ask, and

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Speaker 1: I'm prying, so I do apologize in advance. Can we

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Speaker 1: get an update on mister October Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for everyone that has shown love and

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Speaker 2: support and care, including everybody in the live ramble on

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Speaker 2: the BCX yesterday. But my favorite cat and yours, is

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Speaker 2: hanging in there. He's fighting the good fight. He had

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Speaker 2: for a possibility of surgery next Wednesday. He has to

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Speaker 2: dental surgery. He may have permanent floppy tongue hanging out

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Speaker 2: of his mouth, but I'll take that over the opposite,

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Speaker 2: and my guy's fighting. There's been some rough days in

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Speaker 2: the process, Luke. You know the ups and downs that

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Speaker 2: the animals produce when they are very ill. But this

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Speaker 2: guy is driven, is driven by selfishness and spite, and

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Speaker 2: he's going to be back in our lives quickly. I

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Speaker 2: know it.

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Speaker 1: I know it. I'm very happy to hear that, really

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Speaker 1: happy to hear that. Obviously, having a sick pet is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it's not a pet, it's a family member

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Speaker 2: the same in yours too, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Well it was they all died.

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Speaker 2: So okay, I'm really sorry to bring that back up.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, I have to shout out.

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Speaker 1: You're all gone.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the program, Animal Lover, Average Joe Art has

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Speaker 2: been a daily rock in a lot of ways reaching

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Speaker 1: So b C. I need your expertise here. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we have ten calories with the whole can. Nevertheless, though,

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Speaker 1: I need you to grade and rate the energy drink

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Speaker 1: I got watermelon, Jolly Rancher C four. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: every can of coke you drink takes twelve minutes off

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to lose at least three months

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Speaker 2: with that four can of Starburst Explosives, but I'd be

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Speaker 1: Let's see, let me give you a taste here.

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Speaker 2: Ready, there's gotta be better than that pink monster you've

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Speaker 1: Wow, it actually does taste like Jolly Rancher. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: b See, if I may please Monday Show, my audio

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Speaker 1: So let me just first apologize to I already told

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Speaker 1: Didn't go as a planned But BC, do you remember

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Speaker 1: I can, all three of them gigant, and I thought, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: Thirty minutes in I got hit with the shit attack.

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Speaker 1: I mean thirty minutes in, and I thought, well, the

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm about to ship my pants. OK

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Speaker 1: it's not, it's not it's not. I'm not gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: DMS from Donks was on, like if I could go,

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Speaker 1: let me just tell you that number four that day.

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Speaker 1: Number four that day was a Joseph A Bank size

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Speaker 2: I think she just took a year off of the

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Speaker 1: Telling you it was. I almost wanted to laugh about it,

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Speaker 2: Well, do you have to under drinking that energy drinks

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Speaker 2: mixed with lighter fluid that it probably just slowly chips

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Speaker 2: actually crapping out at the end of the day, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, we're all gonna die, and mine might be

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Speaker 2: Well die on camera like a real man, and you know,

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Speaker 1: And listen. I didn't die taking a dump into joseph

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Speaker 2: I've put us through some interesting episodes on the road,

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Speaker 1: You're sick. You're a sick person, and I hope.

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Speaker 2: I could have been selling them on the street right now,

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Speaker 2: I could have been flipping them for a.

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Speaker 1: Lot, like like Elvis. I also hope you die on

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Speaker 1: the toilet. You know what I'm saying. I really all right,

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Speaker 1: very quickly, Long Island, Luke. How are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good, guys.

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Speaker 5: I got Ruby here showing solidarity for Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Being extra annoying this morning.

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Speaker 2: But no, buttholes Ruby, Okay, yeah, no, buttholes On.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving the Lloyd Christmas haircut. You understand that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I mean, big dumb and dumber fan myself.

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, are you taking that lady? Out this weekend,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're missing the boxing card because we got

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Speaker 5: a party to go to, but we will be doing

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Speaker 5: the watch along nine PM main card.

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Speaker 2: Minutes Saturday's for the boys. Baby jes got she's.

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Speaker 1: Got the patience of job. It's unbelievable. All right. See,

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Speaker 1: unless there's anything else, let's get this party started. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's rock all right here, let's bang two me let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. I mean, there is so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Let's start with topic number one. UFC President

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Speaker 1: Dana White made a series. I mean, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: all all of them, but let's start where they are

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Speaker 1: I think leading off as the most important, Ilia Tuporia

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Speaker 1: move to one hundred and fifty five BC. We will

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Speaker 1: talk about the one forty five title fight that's going

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Speaker 1: to take place at USC three to fourteen. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: But I think even more than that, when you have

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Speaker 1: What are we even talking about here? It's a silly

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Speaker 1: Do I think his power carries at fifty five? I do?

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Speaker 1: Of course he already has. And do I think he

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Speaker 2: I want to spin it right back to you, Luke.

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Speaker 1: The broad strokes. There is no issue the broad strokes.

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Speaker 2: According to Dan Hooker, the UFC just stripped him of

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Speaker 1: The UFC forcing the hand of its fighters is a

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Speaker 1: This is how they've always done business. And listen, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: not realistic that they're going to defend this shit. It's

432
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Speaker 1: just not so. For that reason. If you're gonna move

433
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Speaker 1: to fifty five, well then you're gonna move to fifty five.

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Speaker 1: I am not convinced, however, that they would be. They

435
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Speaker 1: would penalize him. Maybe they don't give him the Islam

436
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Speaker 1: fight right away. I could certainly see that, especially if

437
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Speaker 1: they've got the John Jones fight in the chamber ready

438
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Speaker 1: to go, or if Poeton, let's say, just runs through

439
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: on Caliev. Could they offer him a quick rebound? Would

440
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: he take it? He probably would, right, there's some other

441
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Speaker 1: way to make that work. But in the event that

442
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Speaker 1: they've got options, they may not pull the trigger. I

443
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Speaker 1: don't have any problem I have In fact, not only

444
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Speaker 1: do I have no problem with him not getting a

445
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: title shot, I actually would prefer it if he didn't.

446
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: I kind of preferred if he earned his way up.

447
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: I am people have said, oh, he's trying to speed

448
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: run the Connor thing. But the Connor thing to me

449
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 1: was a little bit different. Yeah, okay, he won at

450
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: forty five and then moved up and then that was it.

451
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: He never went back and defended, although you know Max

452
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: was a title defense. But the point being is at

453
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Speaker 1: fifty five he kind of kept escalating and escalating and escalating,

454
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Speaker 1: or very quickly anyway, he kind of escalated from there.

455
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Speaker 1: But remember I actually showed peak people on my live

456
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Speaker 1: chat yesterday on the last way in that Connor did

457
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Speaker 1: at one forty five for the albow fight at UFC

458
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Speaker 1: one ninety four. BC, you already know this, but for

459
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Speaker 1: folks who may not have gone back and look, please

460
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Speaker 1: don't take my word for it.

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Speaker 2: Go look.

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Speaker 1: Connor looked unbearably awful. I mean, I cannot believe he

463
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Speaker 1: made one forty five as long as he did before

464
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Speaker 1: jumping to fifty five. Once again, BC, I'm not saying

465
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Speaker 1: the cut two forty five for Tupori is not hard.

466
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Speaker 1: But he's never looked like that. He's never looked as gaunt,

467
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Speaker 1: he's never looked as drained. He's never looked as just

468
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Speaker 1: unhealthy on the scale as Connor did. And maybe that's

469
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Speaker 1: a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Overall.

471
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Speaker 1: But it goes back to my other point, the reason

472
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Speaker 1: why I like him getting a number one contender fight.

473
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Speaker 1: If they made the Islam fight, fine, But if they

474
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Speaker 1: give him a number one contender fight, I want to

475
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Speaker 1: see what he's gonna look like at fifty five. I

476
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: think his power carries and I think he's good, but

477
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Speaker 1: I do think he is undersized and how he handles

478
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Speaker 1: that is actually a pretty critical question. If the guy

479
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Speaker 1: you want is freaking Islam MAKACHEVBC damn right.

480
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Speaker 2: And to be fair, look, I don't want this for

481
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Speaker 2: the IFW main event, but if it had to be

482
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Speaker 2: to Poria debuting in this weight class in Dustin Poorier's

483
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: retirement fight, you wouldn't hate that, right, Or if that's

484
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: the Koman like, you wouldn't hate that, just like Ili

485
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: against any of these aging legends that are action stars

486
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Speaker 2: or Charles Olavera or whoever you can come up with.

487
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: They can certainly use his debut as a very big

488
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Speaker 2: fight in their pay per view schedule.

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Speaker 1: Rolling forward, Ilia put out something on social media. Let's

490
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Speaker 1: quickly take a look at it here. It's a reference

491
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Speaker 1: to the Kendrick Lamar song not like us. I don't

492
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Speaker 1: know if you put the graphic up this is from

493
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Speaker 1: ESPN MMA, you can see in the Laura right quadrant

494
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: there where you know, he's sort of referencing that. I

495
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: guess he's unlike the other UFC champions, see he appears

496
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: to want the smoke. I don't know what do you

497
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Speaker 1: make of all this? U.

498
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Speaker 2: I make that he's trying to be in the driver's

499
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: seat of his career, and most stars at the level

500
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Speaker 2: he has achieved this quickly want to be like that.

501
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: You know, we can argue a guy like Kendry Suhudo,

502
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: who's coming back and fighting this weekend, you know, taking

503
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: three years off at the peak of his absolute prime,

504
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: maybe in an effort to try to gain some of

505
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: this leverage and control failed him. But I think Ilia

506
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: is a smooth operator and really knows what he's doing,

507
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: and this is really all strategic regarding his career and

508
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: the type of matchups he can escalate to. Because while

509
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't fully disagree with what you said

510
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Speaker 2: that that there's matchups you still want to see, Like

511
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Speaker 2: if they made him against Diego Lopez tomorrow, would I

512
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Speaker 2: be upset?

513
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Speaker 4: No?

514
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, But Luke, I do have to agree if

515
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Speaker 2: you were going to make this argument that there's not

516
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Speaker 2: big business left for him at one forty five in

517
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Speaker 2: terms of being a monster draw on a huge fight

518
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: and being something that he can prove himself with a

519
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: rematch with Volkanovsky, especially on this recent knockout. Losing streak

520
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: just doesn't do that for me. Even with volkstar power,

521
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 2: there's much bigger names and stars at fifty five. I mean,

522
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: what if he ends up fighting Patty in some huge

523
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: pay per view or something like you know what I mean, Luke.

524
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Speaker 2: I just feel like he is very smart and ahead

525
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: of the game on figuring out a path that is

526
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Speaker 2: going to lead him to the most money, the most

527
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: critical reception, in the biggest level of stardom. And this

528
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: is all part of that. And it's up to the

529
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Speaker 2: UFC to either partner with him and assist in that

530
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: or even if they force him into some corners, I

531
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: think he's good enough to fight his way out of

532
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: these corners and win these test fights. He will need

533
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: getting in there with Islam if that's the way they go.

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Speaker 1: I'll also say this, I mean this. I don't think

535
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Speaker 1: this is in any way controversial, but it's worth saying

536
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Speaker 1: out loud. You know, obviously Connor or John Jones are

537
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Speaker 1: going to be the most popular fighters on the roster, right.

538
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: I mean, Connor's not really active, Jones is semi active,

539
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: but you know they're they've got big names and okay fair,

540
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: but among like actually active fighters, probably Poeton is your

541
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: biggest star right now. I think that's the case. And listen,

542
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about a snapshot in time. If he

543
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: beats on Calive, this will only raises. If he gets

544
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: to John Jones fight, that only raises. But if you

545
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: lose the On Calive fight, you know, that's a whole thing.

546
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: It's very very context dependent. But b C, I'm not

547
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna say if obviously these are big ifs, but if

548
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Speaker 1: Iliotaporia gets the Islam Market chef fight, and if he

549
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Speaker 1: wins it, particularly if it's authoritative, he's going to be

550
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: the biggest star in the sport. You can just like

551
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: you beat them now. And that's why that's really Again,

552
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: this is why the broad strokes about your understanding of

553
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: the situation, I basically agree with.

554
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't.

555
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how you can argue with it,

556
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: aside from just having some feelings of it. I really

557
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: wanted something that I guess is just not available anymore.

558
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: But if he beats this is this is why fifty

559
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: five is so attractive to him. Not only is in

560
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: another weight class and it's another title. The guy holding

561
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: it is the number one pound four pound guy on

562
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: the sport who is low key also kind of a

563
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: big star for the organization as well if you move

564
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Speaker 1: up a weight class, and like you say, again it's

565
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: a big if, but if you ice him as well

566
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: to Porio's on top of the game period at that point,

567
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: like the big game hunting that is available at fifty

568
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: five at this point is just far beyond what forty

569
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: five has. Even if I recognize if he stayed at

570
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: forty five, he could have a long campaign there beating

571
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Speaker 1: some really quality fighters and doing some really quality work.

572
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Speaker 2: And let me just add a final thing. It's like,

573
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a coach, do you coach everybody

574
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: the same way? No stars get handled different ways. If

575
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: you're at a job and somebody's really talented but they're lazy,

576
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: well they get more chances than others. Yes, I would

577
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 2: not be this into this movie, in this idea if

578
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Japoria didn't have the breakout face of the franchise star

579
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: potential that he's building, mixed with the fact that he's

580
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: number two pound for pound and could end up being

581
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: the best fighter in the world. If it was a

582
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: champion in a different division with less marketability, I wouldn't

583
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: support this as much. But if the year of the UFC,

584
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: how could you not support it when this guy could

585
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: literally be the reason that you do massive events in Spain,

586
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: Italy and other parts of Europe and moving forward, this

587
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: is that ticket for that expansion. So just like Way

588
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Lee in China and DDP in South Africa, they're building

589
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: these You know, we always say we don't have stars,

590
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: they're not probably ready to reload for the next generation.

591
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: This guy's ready give them the chance to be that star,

592
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: all right.

593
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: So with that, let's move to the next part of

594
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: this BC, which is of course the UFC three to

595
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: fourteen announcement. It will be headlined a Miami show. But

596
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: by the way, Miami turning into a real fight capital here?

597
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: Can you hit that? Why though?

598
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: Why?

599
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: Because some people have said it's politically in motivated, meaning

600
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: that we know when they go to Abu Dhabi there

601
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna get their best matchmaking. It used to be MSG,

602
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: there used to be majors. Why is Miami suddenly getting

603
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: this treatment? I love it?

604
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: But why well? I mean, there could be something to

605
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: be said for the fact that Governor's Greg Abbott and

606
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: Governor Ron DeSantis, respectively of Texas and Florida were open

607
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: during COVID or even you know, pandemic era events that

608
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: they wanted to hold in particular Florida obviously Florida was

609
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: the first at Jacksonville that that unfortunate beating that Tony

610
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Ferguson took with Justin Gatchee. Yes, I do think there

611
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: is something to be said for that, certainly that you know,

612
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna put our business in a place that was

613
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: accommodating to us at a time of need. Okay, at

614
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: the same time, like there is BC you know this too,

615
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: there is out fucking rageous money in Miami. And Miami

616
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: is a very showy culture anyway. If you've ever been

617
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: to Miami, you cannot believe the number of luxury cars

618
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: on the street, like ninety percent of which are just

619
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: rented for show. But there there, it's it's a place

620
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: that's like designed to be able to pull huge gate

621
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: numbers at least currently right, So as long as like

622
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: they're not doing a favor to Florida, they're making money,

623
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and Miami has a ton

624
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: of it. I think it's more really just the ladder

625
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: than the former, to be honest with you, But okay, okay.

626
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: UFC three fourteen Volkanovski Alexander Volkowski is back. He'll be

627
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: taking on Diego Lopez for the vacant one hundred and

628
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: forty five title. Bab see how good are volks chances

629
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Speaker 1: at recapturing the belt.

630
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm certainly not feeling that they're high, given

631
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: that he's thirty six years old, he's lost three or four,

632
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: and he's coming off back to back knockout losses. Obviously

633
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: there's some level of wiggle room and asterisk play in that.

634
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: When you consider the head kick loss to Islam was

635
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: him moving up in weigh on short notice. We've been

636
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: through this a middle a million times, and then maybe

637
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: he rushed back and took the Toporio fight too soon,

638
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: or maybe Toporia is just a next gen, you know,

639
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: next level phenom for the future. I get why he's

640
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: in this fight. I'm not going to pick it outside

641
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: my street. He's the star power in this matchup that

642
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: allows this division losing to Poria, to keep going and

643
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: keep putting their best face forward. And if Diego Lopez

644
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: is the real deal, then nobody better to stamp that

645
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: approval on him critically than have him go through Volkanovski,

646
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: one of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.

647
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Speaker 2: He's so great, Luke Volkanowski historically his body of work

648
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: that if you knew the future and you told me

649
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: he does a Chevchenko right from the third Grosso fight

650
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: and turns it back and wins a close fight and

651
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: re established him himself a two time champion this division.

652
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: He's of that ILK. But I do have some serious doubts.

653
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: I think Diego Lopez is red hot. This is the

654
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: right time for him to get in this title fight,

655
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and I know what's happened before where people get title

656
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: shots coming off of even consecutive losses. Remember Holly Holm

657
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: at featherweight when Cyborg wasn't ready, but it's elf was

658
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: a weird scenario. Josee Aldo coming off of one loss

659
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: but it was close. I don't know, Luke, I don't

660
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: love this, but if the alternative was Ev Looev versus

661
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Diego Lopez. You're not putting that in the main event,

662
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: so I get it. But I'm cautious and skeptical that

663
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: Vulk's gonna be able to dial it back one more time.

664
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Speaker 1: I think this is a great fight. I think this

665
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: is a great fight. I think it was the right

666
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: fight to make. We'll talk about some of the alternatives

667
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: here in just a second, but I personally think it's

668
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: the right fight to make. I think Diego Lopez certainly

669
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: had a case for being number one contender, but b C,

670
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. I feel like, I mean long

671
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Islan Luke. Let me pull a long on Luke in here,

672
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Long is of Luke. Let me pitch something to you.

673
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: I saw the early odds. I don't know what our

674
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: friends of DraftKings have on this one, but I saw

675
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: in most places Vulk was a very modest favorite, which

676
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: I feel like is very fair. Listen skill for skill,

677
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Long Island Luke. There's no question in my mind. Volkanovski

678
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: has been better and is better, but he's had his

679
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: chin tapped badly in the last two fights. He's been

680
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: dropped in multiple fights before that, and while not as

681
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: technically proficient, and I think strategically you know, complex as

682
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: what Volkanovsky can do. He flurries, he's quick, he's got

683
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: offense everywhere he takes risks, and against a guy this

684
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: kind of old and battered, that's a that's as legit

685
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: a threat as they come. Right now.

686
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: True, honestly, I think those odds should be flip flopped.

687
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: I feel like Vulk should be a slight dog plus

688
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: one ten plus one fifteen something like that, because I

689
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: honestly want to jump on diego a plus money right

690
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: now on that that that sounds like a good bet,

691
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: and I love Vulk, so it'd be hard for me

692
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: to take that bet. So I hope they flip flop.

693
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: But I think that's about accurate should be. No one

694
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 5: should be bigger than like a minus one fifty in

695
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: that fight.

696
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thank you, I appreciate it. And then

697
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: also b C just getting back to, like we know,

698
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the sort of standard themes of the show. If Volkanovsky

699
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: ends up winning this title, not on he become a

700
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: two time champ. With itself, it's quite important. He'd be

701
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: the first person fifty five and down to win a

702
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: UFC title over the age of thirty five, that's not

703
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: been done before. So like, this is a great headlining fight,

704
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: it's a huge test, and there's simply no question in

705
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: my mind Volkanovsky has the skills to pass it. But

706
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I think people overlooking now that you're this

707
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: old and that you've been through this much damage, and

708
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: you've in previous fights even before you incurred this damage.

709
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: You got dropped against Chad Mendez, you got dropped against

710
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Brian Ortega. I can go on down the list. I

711
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: actually think that this one, for being five rounds is

712
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: extra dangerous against a guy like Diego Lopez. Not a

713
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: question in my mind.

714
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Did you weigh in on specifically, like outside of the

715
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: star factor, like are you okay with him being in

716
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: this fight? And I say that because when Connor McGregor

717
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: knocked out Joseialdo but then never returned to the division,

718
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: I wasn't against Josealdo then fighting for the interim belt

719
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: against Frankie Edgar in a rematch, and then continuing honest champion.

720
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I justified it by saying, look, although deserved an immediate

721
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: rematch if anyone ever did after the title reign he had,

722
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: and the way in which he lost that in thirteen

723
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: seconds on the first big punch. This is different. This

724
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: is three losses and four fights, two consecutive knockouts, just

725
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: getting KOed cold in the last fight against the former champion.

726
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about that.

727
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Meritocracally, what's he supposed to do?

728
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Have to have fought somebody else? He lost the title

729
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: eleven months ago, he.

730
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: Would fight for the title.

731
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: I get my inability to answer that question. Is the

732
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: reason why he's in this fight? But is that I'm

733
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: asking you if that's a good enough reason to justify

734
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: it in your eyes as a fan and journalist.

735
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Under normal considerations of meritocracy, he would not be deserving

736
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: of this right. However, you're talking about arguably, arguably I

737
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: don't think he is my personal book, but arguably the

738
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: best featherweight ever. That's who you're talking about here. He's

739
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: certainly the most talented featherweight I've ever seen.

740
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: And.

741
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I think guys like that play by different rules. That's

742
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: just just the reality. Also, at least to the other

743
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: question which a lot of folks asked me be see,

744
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: which was okay, like the fight, fine fight, fine headlining fight,

745
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: great for Miami, great for us. Why didn't Mosar get

746
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the nod? Mosar has a win over Diego Lopez, Mosar

747
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: is undefeated. Mosar is a super tough challenge for anybody

748
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: in that division. Why was he snubbed here.

749
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Because they needed a main event? In my opinion, if

750
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: they already had a main event aligned for this card

751
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: and this wasn't, if this didn't happen as abruptly as

752
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: it appeared that it did, I think they could have

753
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: made Mozar Versus Diego as a co main event vacant

754
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: title excuse me on the line after Taporia moved up.

755
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: I think the quick nature and the fact that over

756
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: the past year and a half, as we have complained

757
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: about the matchmaking card qualities going down a bit, it

758
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: seems more often than not they're scrambling a month or

759
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: two out from a big pay per view rather than

760
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: having the matchups locked in well ahead of time. We

761
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: did see that with UFC three hundred. I mean, why

762
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: would Poeton become as valuable as he did because he

763
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: was ready waiting by the phone every time they knew

764
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: the new main event and he come in there injured

765
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: or not on short notice three times in one hundred

766
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: and seventy six days and deliver it. So I think

767
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: it plays completely in that that they had to kind

768
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: of scramble Vulks the biggest name close enough to the

769
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: top of it. I mean, could you have some holloway in.

770
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: I guess you could have, although it would have been

771
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: the same thing. You just got knocked out by the

772
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: guy that just had the belt. I mean, Luke, you

773
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: also could have done this and it would have driven

774
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: people fricking crazy.

775
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

776
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: You could have done Max versus Vulk four. Oh oh no, okay.

777
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: No, no balls done.

778
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: Mostart got screwed. I mean, he beat the guy, but

779
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: if he was more exciting, he wouldn't be in the

780
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: situation he has. That's just the reality, and I'm not

781
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 2: blaming him for that. But it's the old John Fish

782
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: thing like eventually, it's exactly what he kept winning. Eventually,

783
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: he had to get his shot right. And that's dude.

784
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: When when I covered John Fitch's whole UFC career, when

785
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: John fought GSP, he was by a million miles the

786
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: consensus number two in the world. It wasn't even close.

787
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: For a time. It was cost check because they were

788
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: both at AKA at the same time, they didn't want

789
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: to fight each other. Blah blah blah, and in the end,

790
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: John Fitch, by the time he fought for a UFC title,

791
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: there was no question who the number two guy in

792
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: the world was. It was him and that fight was actually,

793
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: at least on paper, really exciting because you were got, Wow,

794
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: it's number one versus number two in the world. Haw off,

795
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: and do you get that? That's pretty great? And then

796
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: he got scrubbed and never got a title shot again.

797
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: That is that is Mosar's future. He is probably gonna

798
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: barely ever get a title shot, and if he doesn't

799
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: win the first time, it'll be the last title shot

800
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: he gets in the UFC. His style is not appreciated

801
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: by the matchmakers. You can like that factor, you can

802
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: hate that fact. We've been over these debates a million times,

803
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: but it's simply where he is also BC. Another reason

804
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: why Volkanowski got this nod among every other one is

805
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, well, they could have done Mosar versus Diego Lopez,

806
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: and I know you indicated that would have been a comain,

807
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: But who they would have put on the main there,

808
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been a great choice. What I'm trying

809
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: to make is Vulk is a guy you can slot

810
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: into headlining roles and not Tank on pay per view.

811
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how well it's gonna do, but it's

812
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: not gonna take. Certainly, we all probably think Mosar versus

813
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: Diego two is a quality fight, but it's not a

814
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: pay per view headliner. It's not the thing you can

815
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: sell very expensive tickets to in Miami and then reap

816
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: huge dividends at the box office, so to speak, on

817
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: pay per view either.

818
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

819
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: All right, with that in MINDBC, let's get to some

820
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: of these other parts of the same UFC three fourteen card. BC.

821
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler versus Patty Pemblet will comane this card in

822
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: a five rounder at lightweight. Is this good matchmaking from

823
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: the UFC to Well, let me ask you grade the

824
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: matchmaking here, both for Patty as well as for Chandler,

825
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: and give me your early inkling about which way you're leaning.

826
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a matchmaking for both. And I realize

827
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: for other people that they don't love this because they

828
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: see something that I predicted was available over the UFC

829
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: after Patty's last win. There is a path to the

830
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: title for Patty without having to be an elite contemporary

831
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: because there are so many lingering, all time great action

832
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: names still here, the Gay Cheese, the Poitiers, the Chandlers,

833
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: and he's getting one of them. I love this for Chandler,

834
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: despite him having so many more losses than wins in

835
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: this fantastically fun UFC run, because it really gives him

836
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: the chance to revive himself against a guy who's good

837
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: good to very good in Patty. But I think any

838
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: opponent is going to look at him and go okay.

839
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: I think I could do some things against him, So

840
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: I think it's perfect. It's a younger fighter with a

841
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: big brand for Chandler to go against make a lot

842
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: of money. And I think for Patty Luke, this is

843
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: the path and it is based upon on marketability and

844
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: commercial liking and all that. I mean, of course it

845
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: is right. We don't know if Patty's for real. There's

846
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: been a few stumbles along the way on this path

847
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: to get to this point. He looks good lately, but

848
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, imagine if it ends up

849
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: being Ilia versus Patty for the title fight, it's very possible.

850
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: I actually really love this fight. First and foremost, Luke,

851
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: and you can respond because I don't know who's gonna win,

852
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: and it's a creative one in that regard. It's similar

853
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: to two fights ago when I thought Connor should have

854
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: been fighting Patty Pimblet straight up, because it was just like,

855
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: you actually don't really know what's gonna happen, and we

856
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: do have odds from DraftKings that Long Island. Luke just

857
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: sent us plus one hundred Chandler minus one twenty Pimblet. Luke,

858
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: I love this. Tell me what you feel.

859
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: I love it, But I want to play some audio

860
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: if we can, from Michael Chandler to tell you how

861
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: he is feeling about this matchup in Patty.

862
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 7: In particular, after the last fight, one of the most

863
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 7: disappointing losses of my career, I wanted to get right

864
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 7: back on the horse, get right back in the octagon.

865
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 7: So here we go. I like the matchup, love the matchup.

866
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 7: Actually I respect Patty. I think Patty's a skilled fighter.

867
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: I think he's still got a bright future. But I

868
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 7: think he's gonna run into a buzz saw named Michael

869
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 7: Chandler on April twelfth. And as always, I will be

870
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 7: the most entertaining guy that steps inside the octagon that night,

871
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 7: I will have everybody on their feet. I will have

872
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 7: everybody on the edge of their seat, and typical Chandler fashion,

873
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 7: We're going out there with one goal in mind, and

874
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 7: that's to separate our opponent from consciousness.

875
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: So you can't wait.

876
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 7: We headed into training camp today and for the next

877
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 7: eight weeks we're gonna.

878
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Be getting after it.

879
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 7: Thank you guys for being with me on this journey.

880
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: God bless I'll see you at the top, See.

881
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: You at the top, be see I have to say

882
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: a friends at DK. As you mentioned, I believe Chandler

883
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: plus one hundred Pimblet minus one twenty. I think the

884
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: odds are right on the money. Dude, I freaking love

885
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: this matchup because here's the reality. Patty Pimblet is definitely

886
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: better than I thought he would be. I still don't

887
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: think he's all that great necessarily, but he's I'd just

888
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: be lying if I said he didn't exceed my expectations.

889
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: He did. He absolutely has. And his work from the

890
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: back is especially good, Like he's really actually very very

891
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: deadly there, So that part is interesting. Dude, Michael Chandler,

892
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: we have seen him give up his back multiple times.

893
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: It has caused him problems multiple times. At the same time,

894
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Patty is very hittable. Michael Chandler fucking throws the absolute

895
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: dogs when he's out there. This is this is fantastic matchmaking,

896
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: a phenomenal addition to the card. The only part for me,

897
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: BC is the guy sat out basically two years of

898
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: his career to get a Charles O Laveri rematch that

899
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: he lost, and now he's fighting Patti Pimblet in non

900
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: title comains. These are not small figures necessarily, but oh Jesus,

901
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: this guy gave up a lot for not much in return.

902
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: I do feel bad for him in that regard.

903
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: I do. I do feel bad in that regard, and

904
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: he's been everything the UFC would have wanted them to

905
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: be and more, even with a lot of these losses

906
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: in very close fights where he had moments he could win.

907
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: But I'm glad that the very least, and he's a

908
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: very positive person of course, that he's embracing the road

909
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: he took and where he's at and is just trying

910
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: to go for it. And what could be better than

911
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: a younger fighter who's unproven with a huge name it's

912
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: it's perfect for him. I would like him to keep

913
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: his eyes on the road more when he's driving. And

914
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: also I would like to wish him a happy Black

915
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: History Month as well, which is you know, perfect timing.

916
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, remember the first time UFC tried

917
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: to do a Black History Month thing and they're like,

918
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: the first guy we're going to talk to is a uh,

919
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: well it's a white guy. It's gonna be great. But

920
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: you see, in the interest of time, there's more I'd

921
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: like to get into in this one. I think by

922
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: the way Pimblet beats Michael Chandler, he's it's gonna be

923
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: great for his career. I mean, there's simply no Obviously,

924
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: the winner here gets a lot. I mean, the matchmaking

925
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: here is perfect. The one that's kind of interesting to

926
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: me is the third fight down on this card, BC,

927
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: which is holy crap. Patricio Pitbull, the best fighter in

928
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Bellator history. We did a full resume review of him

929
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: on Morning Combat. Has had one of the most remarkable

930
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: MMA careers outside of the UFC. Well that is now finished.

931
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: He will be on this card and he's taking on

932
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Yaya Rodriguez. Now what's interesting, BC, is you sent me

933
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: something earlier today, suggesting that the UFC kind of twisted

934
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Yayer's arm to take it. What did you send me?

935
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an interview that Patricio Pipple did with

936
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: an MMA junkie immediately after the fight was announced by Dana,

937
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, two nights ago, late night, and he ultimately

938
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: said that he gave his history of being called by

939
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: the UFC. He's been talking to the UFC going back

940
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: to like the beginning of last year. He claims he

941
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: accepted a fight with Al Joe. Al Joe pulled out.

942
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: He claimed he accepted a fight against Ya Year. Yah

943
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: Year said no, but he said ultimately UFC called him back,

944
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: asked him one more time about Ya Year he and

945
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: according to Pipple, Ya Year said no. So then Dana

946
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: called Pipple and said, I'm gonna announce the fight anyway

947
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: and you can fill in the blanks to pressure Ya

948
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: Year into accepting it. And according to Pitple, that's the

949
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: reason why Ya Year ultimately accepted this absolutely badass all

950
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: action fight. That is like the gift from above, the

951
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: special icing on top of this cake. But Luke, that's

952
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: some heavy handed bullshit, man, I mean, that's that's like

953
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: that's the kind of stuff we hate. Heren of how

954
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: they actually operate.

955
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Uh, this is once I'm gonna say it again, this

956
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: is I'm not defending it as such, In fact, far

957
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: from it. What I am trying to get folks to

958
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: wrap their mind around is this is how the sausage

959
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: is made. This is how fights get made. That's not

960
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: a thing I think is awesome, But like, what are

961
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: the mechanisms in place to deliver to the fans the

962
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: cars that look like this? It's it's this. It's this

963
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: kind of thing.

964
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: Because if you're yeah, yeah, right now, and you come

965
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: out on a podcast today and go, I never accepted

966
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: this fight. This is UFC pull in things. He's not

967
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: going to get an offer for a while, and it's

968
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: gonna be a Fightdea dosn't want. And that's the truth, Luke,

969
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: That's the damn truth.

970
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is the truth. But BC as it stands, however,

971
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: the fight itself is freaking awesome. Here's my concern. Tell

972
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: me what I'm missing. I love that they have different

973
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: body types. I love that they are from different like

974
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: obviously places in the MMA world. They're coming together. They're

975
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: both action fighters. The problem is Pitbull is thirty seven,

976
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: and you're getting him what I think is post prime,

977
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: and I do think his last win BC. You'll recall

978
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the Jeremy Kennedy fight. He looked much better than he

979
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: had more recently, but he's also lost his last two

980
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: out of three. What am I missing about all of this?

981
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: You're not missing anything. We're lucky being fans of him

982
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: and realizing that he is, in some in his own form,

983
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: a historically great fighter, right like the face of one

984
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: of the sneaky great Brazilian champions of all time, who's

985
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: lingered throughout and fought everybody he could. But you do

986
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: need that stop in the UFC at the end of

987
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: the journey, even if it's just for one fight, it

988
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: does matter and mean something. We're getting him with still

989
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: something left in the tank. So here's what I'm really

990
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: trying to say. I don't think he's gonna end up

991
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: fighting for a world title, but I do think this

992
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: is brilliant matchmaking to not only give us the iEAR

993
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: fight first, although to be fair, you could have picked

994
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: any number of action opponents over multiple weight classes and

995
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna get what you're gonna get. Instinct combustibility. This

996
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: is brilliant in my opinion. Putting this on the same

997
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: card as Chandler. It's gonna get Chandler and Pitbull talking

998
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: about each other again, that they hate each other. There's

999
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: been a great, long time rivalry with Chandler and the

1000
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: members of the pit Bull Jim, including Patricky who he

1001
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: knocked out and pissed off Pitbull Patricio, which led to

1002
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: them fighting and Patricio getting the early knockout. I think

1003
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: if they both lose on this card, the next fight

1004
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: is Chandler versus Pitbull. If one of them wins and

1005
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: one of them loses, the next fighters Chandler versus Pitbull.

1006
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: Those are the type of fights I think we're gonna

1007
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 2: get from Pitpull. Let's say we get four or five

1008
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: of them Luke and he wins one of them. It's

1009
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: kind of the Michael Chandler thing all over again, even

1010
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: though Chandler was on the title level and maybe had

1011
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more in the tank. I'm just happy

1012
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: we're getting this. I'm happy he's not in PFL jail anymore.

1013
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: I think, like a late career Kung Lee going to

1014
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: the UFC, we're gonna get what's less of him, but

1015
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be really fun against other equal legends.

1016
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: Remember this is a guy who dusted off Michael Chandler

1017
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: and he was asked about that, even though he signed

1018
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: with the UFC, how he feels about Michael Chandler and

1019
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: my man is still holding on to old grudges. Play

1020
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: the Cliff Long Island, Luke.

1021
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 8: You and Michael Chandler ending up on the same card

1022
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 8: after all these years for your USC debut him fighting

1023
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 8: in the comain event?

1024
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Was it kind of.

1025
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 8: Crazy funny for you to see that full circle moment

1026
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 8: where you guys are both kind of on the poster

1027
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 8: for UFC event.

1028
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 6: Before I started the interview, I saw a guy on

1029
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 6: Twitter saying that UFC three one four is gonna be

1030
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 6: great because it's gonna be the first time father and

1031
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 6: son are fighting on the same card in the UFC.

1032
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 6: So that give me a big love And I found

1033
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: it really funny that that people said that, I don't

1034
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: know how it's gonna be, but I think it's gonna be.

1035
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.

1036
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 8: Is there STI rivalry there at all with you guys,

1037
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 8: like if you see him on fight week or are

1038
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 8: things going to be cool and cordial or is there

1039
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 8: still a little bit of heat between you and Michael.

1040
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 6: I don't like him personally, but I don't have any issues.

1041
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 6: I mean, a professional where both sportsmen, we have to

1042
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: respect each other. So I'm not gonna be trying to

1043
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 6: do anything. But if they want to give me as

1044
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 6: many opportunities as they can to beat him up until

1045
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: the end of my career, I'm gonna be taking all

1046
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 6: of them.

1047
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: Old habits, die hard, old habits, die hard.

1048
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's it's gonna be awesome. If it's the next fight,

1049
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: I guarantee you it's perfect. I mean, look, we're not

1050
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: being unfair to him. I don't think he's going to

1051
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: contend for a title, but he's going to get knocked

1052
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: out cold and knock people the f out. We know

1053
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: what we're getting with him.

1054
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I think a title at this weight, at this age

1055
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: seems deeply unrealistic. However, you're talking about the best guy

1056
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Bellator's ever produced. Even if he is post prime. It

1057
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: makes no sense not to sign him. It makes no sense.

1058
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: It only makes sense to see. Listen, whatever he's got,

1059
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: let's fire him in there and let's see what it is.

1060
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the best of what he has anymore,

1061
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: It's hardly gonna be bad and it's definitely not worth

1062
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: ignoring him. It's all the right call. I'm sorry that

1063
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: the fight got made under the terms that appeared to

1064
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: be strong arming, but again it's how the sausage is made,

1065
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: all right, PC. But we're not done with these topics

1066
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: related to UFC announcements. Let's go to topic number two,

1067
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: which is well, basically the rest of them, which include

1068
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: UFC three for fifteen, which will take place in Canada

1069
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: as well as the main event around UFC London. Let's

1070
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: start with the biggest part of that, BC, which is

1071
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: that balal Mohammed is now going to fight Jack Dala

1072
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Madalena at UFC three fifteen excuse me, while Leon Edwards

1073
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: is going to fight Sean Brady. We'll talk about the

1074
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: latter of those in a minute, but here's my question. BC.

1075
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: First of all, give me your reaction to that main

1076
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: event in Canada, and also why didn't they just leave

1077
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: Jack dalea Medealana on the London card and then call

1078
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: up Joaquin Buckley to fight balal Mohammed, who's basically right there,

1079
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: fresh matchup and he didn't have to move anything around.

1080
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: It's a great question. I think you could have actually,

1081
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: even though he's coming off of a defeat, I think

1082
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: you could have called Ian Gary too. I really think

1083
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: you could have. Right, Oh, there's and that shows the

1084
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: depth of this division. It may not have top end

1085
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: pay per view stars, but one through fifteen this division's fire.

1086
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: So I guess it probably came down to who was available,

1087
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: who was in camp. All of that, we know that

1088
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: they got to call a bunch of hunter Campbell's got

1089
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: to go in the front seat, luke outside and call,

1090
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: put a bunch of people on speakerphone and get it done.

1091
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: I love the fight ultimately, and I think this is

1092
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: actually really good news for balal Mohammed because we were

1093
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: I was, I was. We crept on him. I crapped

1094
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: on him for a long time. Thought he was a

1095
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: transitional champion, thought he was overachieving to get to this point,

1096
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: took advantage of a short camp. Gilbert Burns blah blah blah.

1097
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: I was wrong. I now remember the name, and yet

1098
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: we still were like, yeah, but he's gonna fight Shavcott next,

1099
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: and Edward Scissorhand's gonna slice through him. Only Shavka look

1100
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: kind of human against Gary, and he's hurt and unavailable,

1101
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: and now you're giving him a JDM who we all love.

1102
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: Great fighter, fun fighter year layoff did not look great

1103
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: against uh Gilbert until he needed to look great in

1104
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: the final minute with that knee, but up until then

1105
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: was out crappled. And what does Blal do great? So

1106
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: suddenly Blal's in a spot where he's finally healthy to

1107
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: get the title defense here, and I think he's gonna

1108
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: fight that he can win. So it's definitely a hardcore

1109
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 2: fight in my opinion, right, Like it's not gonna move

1110
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: paper blocks, but it's in a division that just needs

1111
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: to keep moving forward no matter who steps up, and

1112
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: this fight, yeah, this is more than good enough for me.

1113
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 2: So is Leon and Sean Brady. By the way, great

1114
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: substitution there as well. Could this have been Leon? But

1115
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: then you're doing an immediate rematch, So I don't hate it, Luke,

1116
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: tell me what's wrong about this?

1117
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it.

1118
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: It's just kind of interesting. So let's break it down

1119
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: here a little bit. First of all, throw up on

1120
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: the screen if you can, bung Island, Luke. The statement

1121
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: from shof cut rock Monoff. Well, I did not mention

1122
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: if the top was injured. Here's what he says, quote

1123
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: big thanks to the UFC for offering me the shot

1124
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: at the belt first. Unfortunately, due to injury, I won't

1125
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: be ready for May. I'll be facing the winner later

1126
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, fair enough, And by the way, put

1127
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: up the balal Muhammad message about taking Leon's opponent. Let's

1128
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: see that very quickly. Dang, he says, I stole Leon's

1129
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: belt and his opponent.

1130
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: Dude, I'll be PAULI and I've got his girl.

1131
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh Adrian Brunner thing. Yeah, dude, like he does that,

1132
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: he does that, you know what I mean. It's interesting.

1133
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I love both fights. We'll talk

1134
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: about the Sean Brady and Leon one in just a second.

1135
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: But on the side, for Bala Mohammed, I think very

1136
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: highly of Jack Dela Madalena. I would rather have seen

1137
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: him fight Leon first, if I can be honest. But

1138
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: I get that they're just trying to, you know, patch

1139
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: up an unfortunate situation with Schafcott being out. So it's

1140
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: interesting for Blahal because I think that's stylistically something of

1141
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: an advantageous matchup. It's kind of striker versus grappler. Obviously.

1142
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: The thing that's interesting to me about Leon is, on

1143
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: the one hand, BC, he's now going from a guy

1144
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: who is almost entirely a striker to a guy who

1145
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: is almost entirely a grappler, so that has to be frustrating. However,

1146
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: he's been fighting nothing but wrestlers all this time, all

1147
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: the Kamara Usman rematches and trilogies, the Colby Covington fight,

1148
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Balal Mohammed, and now this one like this is like

1149
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: the fifth time, and have almost as many fights as

1150
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: he's had to find or fight. Excuse me, BC a

1151
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: wrestling based kind of guy, so there's got to be

1152
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: some comfort there. And by the way, I like that

1153
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: matchup too. It's just I don't know, Buckley seemed right

1154
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: there usable you didn't have to move anything else around.

1155
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. We're happy for, uh,

1156
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, former Room Service Diaries against Sean Brady. I

1157
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: think to get a title shot just the same. But

1158
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel about it all.

1159
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, is this telling us something.

1160
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 4: That we getting a title shot? Sean's fighting?

1161
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, not a title shot. Number one contender fight apologia,

1162
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: but presumably a number one contender fight.

1163
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: Because the two missing pieces here are Joaquin Buckley and

1164
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: Ian Gary. Is that the next fight? Should that be

1165
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: the next fight? Because my loins are jumping thinking about

1166
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 2: that fight.

1167
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a great question, Ian Gary, and I love

1168
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: that fight, Joaquin Buckley versus Ian Gary. That's a really, really,

1169
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: really good fight.

1170
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 4: They were booked too before they That's.

1171
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Right, they were booked for that for that was it

1172
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Tampa card? Yes, and then everything they had changed and

1173
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: they had to bring in Colby whatever. But yeah, that's

1174
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: a great fight. That's a phenomenal fight. I really really

1175
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: like it. Now if I may be se going through

1176
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: this list here a little bit in addition to all

1177
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: of this, but actually, do you like the JDM? Which

1178
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: one do you like more? Edwards Brady or Edwards JDM.

1179
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: Edwards JDM I would have enjoyed more. But I think

1180
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: this is a more than fine substitution. I think. Look,

1181
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: the real intrigue for me is Leon Edwards was like

1182
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: pound top four at the time that he lost to

1183
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: Ballala and kind of lost soundly. So this is a

1184
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: big no matter who the opponent is, as long as

1185
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 2: it is an elite one is a big opportunity considering

1186
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Leon's age in his mid thirties. Here where if he

1187
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: comes back and completely re establishes himself, he's very much

1188
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: still in this very deep title picture and we got

1189
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: to take him very seriously. Or if he's just a

1190
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: step below that, he could be given someone like Sean

1191
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: Brady the rub on his own push toward the title

1192
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: or JDM if it had happened. So the intrigue is

1193
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: still surrounding Leon. I love that it's in London, like

1194
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a fun event.

1195
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with the broad Strokes there now the

1196
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: co main event PC.

1197
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: Volenta Stroking going out here. Look, I always Jroke to

1198
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: Broad's always always.

1199
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet in public and at the bus stop,

1200
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Valentina Schevchenko was gonna face Manan Fiero in the Comain.

1201
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: This will be a one to twenty five title fight BC.

1202
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: Of all of.

1203
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: Chevchenko's fights at one twenty five, is Manan Fioro the toughest, We.

1204
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: Don't know yet. We don't know yet because I think

1205
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: Wayley's the tougher fight. But we knew it probably came

1206
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: down to a quick turnaround against Wayley to just capitalize

1207
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: on the stardom and the pound for pound potential or

1208
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: give Mine Farrow what she has already earned and did deserve.

1209
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: So ultimately, Luke, maybe they can still have their cake

1210
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: and eat it too. In terms of when Wayley does

1211
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: move up to one twenty five, it's going to be

1212
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: a big deal trying seeing her go, trying to become

1213
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: a champ champ with the stardom she's built in China.

1214
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: Would it be bigger against chef Chenko? Yes, But I

1215
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: like that Farah who has been unbeaten and it's passed

1216
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: every test and really showed us her true talent and

1217
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: backbone against Blansfield in that fight. Let's go here, Luke,

1218
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 2: no reason, no reason to to nitpick this at all.

1219
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: This is the fight, and I don't know yet if

1220
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: it will be more dangerous. I mean, Walley's a more

1221
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: row rounded fighter for sure, and maybe a more no

1222
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: more not maybe a more dangerous finisher for sure. But

1223
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: that's at ten pounds south. So let's see what Mannal has, Luke,

1224
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean, what what do you think top of your

1225
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: head feeling? Can Farau win this?

1226
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: I think Farou does win this? Yeah, I think she

1227
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: does win this. Listen, I mentioned again not her. She's

1228
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: fought Newnas twice, so that doesn't count. We're talking about

1229
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: one twenty five fights. Here are her one twenty five

1230
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: fights b see and one twenty five she fought Priscilla

1231
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: Catchuera forget about it. That was a mismatch. Now in

1232
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen she fought jj Yo Wanni and Jcheck. But

1233
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: remember she's not really a natural twenty.

1234
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: Five Her kind of a mismatch a mismatch.

1235
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: Then it's Jessica I, Liz Carmuch, Caitlin Chukegan. That's who

1236
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: it was when she fought it. Obviously she's changed her

1237
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: name since Jennifer Maya, Jessica Androge, Lauren Murphy, Tyler Santos,

1238
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: and now Alexa Grosso BCE. Yeah, Manon Fiera is better

1239
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: than all of them. There's no question in my mind.

1240
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: She's not as well rounded as some of those.

1241
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's better than Grosso. I know

1242
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: Grosso's not only coming off for bad performance in a

1243
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: title fight. She's the underdog coming up. I get all

1244
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: of that, but I don't know if you know that

1245
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Parouh is better than Grosso I don't know if you

1246
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: actually know that, Luke.

1247
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: She's a better athlete and a tougher fight. I can

1248
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: tell you that, because.

1249
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Won't you say if there's anything we still don't know

1250
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: about Farrow. I just gave her a ton of credit

1251
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: for the Blanchfield fight because we thought Blanchfield was a

1252
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: runaway train. But didn't Blanchfield look one dimensional in that

1253
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: fight too, and still kind of rallied with Takedowns.

1254
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Faro Fiora made her look one dimensionally.

1255
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying, but I think Grosco's

1256
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: more of a proven comodity at this level. But we'll

1257
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: find out. Let's see, let's see.

1258
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, the point being is this debate is important

1259
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: and that's a phenomenal addition to that card. But let

1260
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: me just say this. I have seen people complain, They're like, Wow,

1261
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: UFC is going back to Canada and we're getting a

1262
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: Balo Mohammed main event with a women's title co main event.

1263
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: Now again, I think that's a little unfair. Blaloh Mohammed

1264
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: versus JDM is an absolutely worthwhile fight, and Schevchenko versus ferrooh,

1265
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a Barnburger BC.

1266
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: But these are quality fighters who are deserving of respect.

1267
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: But these are not necessarily the most entertaining fighters, and

1268
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: certainly BC, certainly these are not the biggest stars. Do

1269
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: Canadian UFC fans have a right to complain?

1270
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: They do? They do? Which really is now? You know,

1271
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: because I read enough MMA draw in the email and

1272
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: they do have a lot of insight into the business

1273
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: decisions government contracts. So I'm now looking at the sport

1274
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: through a different lens. I'm now wondering It's like, what

1275
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: is the site fee that Montreal pays out compared to

1276
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: some of these other cities that you know, TKO have

1277
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Speaker 2: done these groups packages of where you get the UFC

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Speaker 2: pay per view, you know, sandwich between the ww events

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Speaker 2: and all that. Maybe you get some bull riding in

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Speaker 2: between if you're lucky. We know that Dubai seems to

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Speaker 2: pay the most, they get the best cards. Saudi get

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Speaker 2: some special treatment of course, but you know, it seems

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Speaker 2: we can debate which which cities they tend, you know,

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Speaker 2: in recent memory, to match better than others. I think

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Speaker 2: that's ultimately telling you who's paying the most for Canada

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Speaker 2: or especially specifically Montreal to be out of the loop

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Speaker 2: based on COVID in the aftermath for this long despite

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Speaker 2: having that history of being amazing bloodthirsty fans, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is either they got screwed or the UFC going well.

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Speaker 2: That fan base is so great and so hungry that

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Speaker 2: they'll take literally anything we'll give them. So here's two

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Speaker 2: title fights, no matter the value. I'm not crapping on

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Speaker 2: these two title fights, like I'm here for it. But

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Speaker 2: I get your point, and one of those things are true,

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Speaker 2: if not all, I don't even know anymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, which card is better? I mean they're not

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Speaker 1: filled out yet, we can't fully say, but which card

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Speaker 1: is better than Miami card at three three fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Or Miami is deep as shit.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not even a question which one is better,

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Speaker 1: it's very, very obviously better. While recognizing I personally don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem at all with three fifteen, I just

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Speaker 1: entertainment and star power quotient between the two of them.

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Speaker 1: Something to keep in mind is.

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Speaker 2: Related to take advantage of my people. Luke the Quebec Qua.

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean having a French speaking person there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure it helps. I'm told

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Speaker 1: a little bit like English and Scottish or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but they still speak the same language at.

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Speaker 1: The end, they speak the same language. And they're also,

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Speaker 1: you know, equally very well. You think the DC serving

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Speaker 1: class doesn't like your jokes, the Montre, the cub At Cua.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, but but you know that coming in. I

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Speaker 2: will say this about the Quebec claw because I vacationed

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Speaker 2: There were definitely deep pockets of French that I was in,

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Speaker 2: some of these back towns at like supermarkets and stuff

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Speaker 2: I would go there at like age nineteen, looking to

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Speaker 2: just get drunk and hang out on Saint Catharine Street

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Speaker 2: and look at the nudes. Luke right, I mean, let's

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Speaker 2: be and then eat French fries with mayo on them.

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Speaker 2: That's the life cycle of going there back in the

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Speaker 2: day was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: BC's like, I'm gonna go I'm gonna drink I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: gonna look at some titties and it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great day in my life.

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Speaker 2: I love pork over there and putting extra sauce on everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate these people, Luke, they are my people.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: If I'm oh, you know what, before we move on,

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Speaker 1: the one I showed you before, I stole Leon's belt

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Speaker 1: have to tell you, Balah Muhammad has grown on me, dude.

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Speaker 1: He's grown on me a lot.

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Speaker 2: He has been just consistently him, which is good, and

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the UFC card at the end here,

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Speaker 1: let off the show BC by telling the folks they're

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Speaker 1: moving this from a twenty five thousand seater to just

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Speaker 1: it audible here to talk about this. Someone asked me,

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Speaker 1: is there less hype for this one than there was

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Speaker 1: for the original one, the first fight between these two,

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Speaker 1: and the answer appears to be least state side. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is. Now that's not me saying that the quality

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Speaker 1: isn't high or that I'm not excited. That's really irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: But they're moving this from a twenty five thousand seat

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: venue for one of the biggest rematches of the year

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 1: for again a unification the whole nine. It's already a unification.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for all the marbles they're putting in

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01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: a six thousand seedar, there hasn't been a ton of

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Speaker 1: buzz for this. What's happening here.

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Speaker 2: A couple things, I mean, one of it is that

1419
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: Saudi effect. When you take really big fights out of

1420
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: the US market, you're naturally gonna get less of a buzz,

1421
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: less of casuals having the opportunity to hear about it,

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: run into it on Sports Center on TV. We've been

1423
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: up and down the road talking about that. Also, let's

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Speaker 2: be honest, Beval and Betterbev are future Hall of famers

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Speaker 2: and living legends at all time greats. I mean, check

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Speaker 2: the resumes, check the first fight. But this fight kind

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Speaker 2: of always needed Saudi to be able to pay for it.

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01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: They were with opposite promoter. It was always looked at

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Speaker 2: as the kind of fight that would die on pay

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Speaker 2: per view. If you know, if originally Bob Aaron and

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Speaker 2: Eddie Herne had gotten together and tried it. So we're

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Speaker 2: lucky that Saudi is involved right now on the level

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Speaker 2: that they are, so that this thing gets the pop

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Speaker 2: in circumstance it does that it gets put on top

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Speaker 2: of what, at its original incarnation was, you know, the

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Speaker 2: deepest boxing pay per view card we ever saw, and

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Speaker 2: they brought the prices down. There's certainly a lot to

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Speaker 2: like here. But as much as this card has tremendous

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Speaker 2: depth and probably is even with the changes, it's still

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Speaker 2: up there. Right it might be the greatest pay per

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Speaker 2: view card of all time. You don't have great individual

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Speaker 2: stars on it, and I don't think anyone's quippling with that, right.

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Speaker 2: Dubon Parker not household names. Neither are better bv and Bvall.

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Speaker 2: I think that all plays into this. It does feel

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Speaker 2: damning that the day before they would move it to

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Speaker 2: such a downsize arena because it plays into that narrative,

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Speaker 2: even though neither Bevall or Better be ever from the US,

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Speaker 2: but it plays into that narrative that it's pushing this

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Speaker 2: sport away from the vaunted, loving US market here. But

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Speaker 2: it kind of is what it is, and if this

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Speaker 2: is a more intimate experience and looks better on TV

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Speaker 2: and gives the fight more of a big fight punch

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Speaker 2: and feel. Then we're all gonna win out in the

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Speaker 2: end of it. But it's unfortunate because this fight on

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: paper was great. I like the replacements. We're going to

1456
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: talk about it, but they got hit hard twice this

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Speaker 2: week and now they're downsizing arenas. If you just take

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Speaker 2: that information alone, I get the optics, it doesn't look great.

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Speaker 1: All right, BC, Let's talk about the fight itself, because

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Speaker 1: it is an intriguing fight. It really is an important

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Speaker 1: one and I'm again whatever the buzz for it. It's

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal contest between two of the best boxers currently alive,

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Speaker 1: certainly in that division. By the way, David Benavidez will

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Speaker 1: be in attendance for this one to see if you

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Speaker 1: can get the winner at a later date. But let's

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Speaker 1: just talk about it, BC. Very simple question as a refresher,

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Speaker 1: what was the story of the first fight? And I

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Speaker 1: guess the second part of that question is what's one

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Speaker 1: change either one should make to improve their chances of

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Speaker 1: victory in a rematch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love this line of questioning because I think

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Speaker 2: unequivocally for as great as the first fight was a

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Speaker 2: Fight of the Year contender, a BC special technical thriller.

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Speaker 2: The second fight's going to be way better. It just is.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the way they speak. They only tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: The story of the first fight was that these two

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Speaker 2: unbeaten champions came together to crown the first four belt

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Speaker 2: champion in light heavyweight history in this modern era. Oh

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Speaker 2: by the way, they also happened to already be two

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Speaker 2: love the style contrast coming in, Yet surprisingly it was Bevall,

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Speaker 2: and put on a pace, landed the more significant shots

1485
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: for the most part, including hurting Better Bev in round seven.

1486
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: But ever since bev All going in for the knockout,

1487
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: pressuring Better bev and then getting hurt in return, he

1488
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: did show a different posture of the rest of the way.

1489
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: Better bev did rally to outwork him the final rounds,

1490
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: and there is that damning to a degree. Even though

1491
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: I scored it for Bevall seventy five, like a lot

1492
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: of people did, did bev All go in the other

1493
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: direction in the final in the championship rounds with the

1494
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: fight on the line. Yes, not as shamelessly egregious as

1495
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hoya listening to his corner against Felix

1496
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: Trendidad and really that being the turning point of his

1497
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: entire career. But like I said, it's still I thought

1498
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: bev All had done enough to win. But Luke, the

1499
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: real story of the first fight to me was I

1500
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: think certainly for Beevall, but I think for both of them.

1501
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to outwardly say these two aren't

1502
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: as great as we thought. That's not what I'm trying

1503
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: to get at, but I think both had such high

1504
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: esteem and respect for the other one coming into the fight,

1505
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: and if you listen to their quotes this week during

1506
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: fight we talking about that first fight, they both kind

1507
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 2: of found out halfway through that the other one was

1508
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: more hitable, or maybe that they were just better dance

1509
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: partners than they even thought. So I think that has

1510
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: left a feeling where better bev feels like he has

1511
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: to come out and do more because everybody said he lost,

1512
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: even though they asked him about it this week, and

1513
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't give a damn. I don't care.

1514
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: I don't listen to those people. And on the flip side,

1515
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: Beval knows he probably won that fight in his heart.

1516
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: Most of the media scored it for him, but knows

1517
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: the thing that was missing was more pressure and maybe

1518
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: to really believe in his power more. But when you

1519
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: believe in your power and you pressure better, v who

1520
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: never gets tired and is always the fresher fighter, late

1521
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: a real key by the way to his unbeaten success.

1522
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: I know it's usually about that knockout streak, but we

1523
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: know he can box. The stamina is so underrated. Both

1524
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 2: feel like, hey, that first fight was close. That guy

1525
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: was really good, but he wasn't a superhero. I'm the

1526
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: superhero and I'm gonna come in there and show you.

1527
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: I really think they are both going to be wired

1528
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: to not leave anything behind, not leave it to chance.

1529
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a knockout,

1530
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: but I think this is going to be an even

1531
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: faster pace in a more action packed fight. Yes, with

1532
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: strategical adjustments. I am very looking forward to what happens here,

1533
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: knowing that if bev All wins, Turkey already said we're

1534
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: getting immediate trilogy and if better be of wins. David

1535
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 2: Benaviez is sitting in the front row. Interesting times right now, Luke,

1536
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: But I really believe this fight is going to be

1537
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: even more special, all right, so.

1538
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: Let me play Devil's advocate. I actually agree with all

1539
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: of that, but I want to ask the question this way.

1540
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: And granted it's a very different kind of circumstance, but

1541
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: we saw the rematch between DDP and Strickland, and the

1542
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: second fight was kind of just like the first one.

1543
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some differences, obviously, but it wasn't

1544
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: really much different, you know, it was they kind of

1545
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: just matched up how they matched up. Won't this fight

1546
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: just be how the first one was, which, by the way,

1547
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm not calling a bad fight. It wasn't necessarily thrilling,

1548
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a bad fight. But I guess see,

1549
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: you really don't think it was thrilling.

1550
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was like the fourth or fifth best

1551
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: fight of the year.

1552
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: Light buzz thrilling, light buzz thrilling. It never had like

1553
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: a big crescendo. I think is the thing that's missing.

1554
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: They both left a little bit left they could have.

1555
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: That's that's right. So how much of your analysis I'm

1556
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: just trying to ask you to like, like reflect on

1557
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: a little bit here. How much of it is this

1558
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: fight is likely to look just like the first one?

1559
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: And how much of your assessment, which I agree with

1560
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: about the changes that they could make, but how much

1561
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: of that's just wishful thinking? Like they just fought, they

1562
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: went twelve rounds. Their styles are what they are. There's

1563
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: only minor things they can adjust. Why is that perspective wrong?

1564
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I think ultimately we're saying the

1565
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: same thing, but I get your differentiation different in different tentation.

1566
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: It's exactly right.

1567
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: That's this amazing grammar, wow and speech right there. I'm

1568
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: not having a seizure, folks. Sorry. So ultimately, Luke, I

1569
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: think it'll be better than the first, But to your point,

1570
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: it'll look like the first. They'll just be taking what

1571
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: was left of the jug that they left behind, maybe

1572
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: giving their opponent a little bit too much respect, maybe

1573
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: Beevall gassing out a little bit more than he thought,

1574
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: not having the engine to push down the stretch. What

1575
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 2: is Beevall said all week when he said when people

1576
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: asked him, why did you lose the first one according

1577
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: to the judges in your opinion, and what can you

1578
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: do differently? He said two things. Staminaus so I can

1579
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: go twelve hard rounds on like the first one, and

1580
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: more output, which is still him doing the same thing.

1581
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: He's got a great job his quick combinations. I mean,

1582
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: bev All, I think has always been greater than he realized.

1583
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: There was a long stretch in Beevall's career where he

1584
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: was that safe European fighter from the outside. But I

1585
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 2: think we learned a lot about him, and he learned

1586
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: a lot about himself in the Canelo fight because to

1587
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: win that, to get the benefit of the doubt on

1588
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 2: the scorecards against that legend, he had to almost dominate

1589
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: and overwhelm him. And I know the narrative as has

1590
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: become that that fight was one sided, it really wasn't.

1591
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: It's just I think that we were shocked at how

1592
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: much better Bevall was against an equal great I think

1593
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: Bevall learned the same lesson in this better Via fight

1594
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: that he's actually better than he thought and has more

1595
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: of a chance to implement his offense and maybe even

1596
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: hurt better be off who can be hurt, maybe not finished,

1597
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: but can be knocked down that I think he's going

1598
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: to be more offensive and then on the better b

1599
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: F side, don't forget this, he had knee surgery. This

1600
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: fight was supposed to be in June of last year.

1601
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: They pushed it to October, but that shortened the training

1602
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: camp for better be of recovering from that knee, he admits.

1603
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: Even though he's a man of very few words and

1604
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 2: gives you almost no substance in interviews and never makes excuses,

1605
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: he admits that it affected what he was able to

1606
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: do in the ring in the first fight. He says,

1607
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: now the neils knee's fully healthy, so I think he's

1608
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: going to have even a deeper tank to be able

1609
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: to throw more punches. I think they're going to be

1610
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: constantly adjusting off of each other, just like the first fight.

1611
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: So everything you're saying is true. I just think it's

1612
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: going to be faster paced and even more tense, and

1613
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: it's going to be a classic. I really cannot see

1614
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,959
Speaker 2: an area in a way that this fight doesn't shine

1615
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: very quickly.

1616
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the weights below here. I started interrupt

1617
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: Long Island. Luke did Rob fought Misswaight? Why is that fight?

1618
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 5: John Matsimoto took it on like a week's notice. It's

1619
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty pound catchwright. And then also Austin

1620
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 5: Vanderford versus with Elsie fighting Verrettnakov that's also a one

1621
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 5: seventy five catch Wait.

1622
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? Getting back to this along. Look, in fact,

1623
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: I want to see this better. We have actually told

1624
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: us what he learned from the first fight. Let's play

1625
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: that clip.

1626
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 9: You know, there is many things it's belonged to telling you.

1627
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 9: Let's talk after, Like, can we do.

1628
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,919
Speaker 10: Some talking now at the press conference?

1629
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 9: So please no, I like you know anything like that

1630
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 9: we said with my team, see you fight like you know,

1631
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 9: it's always different. Like when you see a fight, we

1632
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 9: make something different. Try to be correct something you know

1633
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 9: we're working on it.

1634
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 10: In that first fight, for the first time in your career,

1635
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 10: three men ringside got to decide whether or not you

1636
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 10: had one would you prefer on Saturday? We do not

1637
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 10: need to speak to those three men and you just

1638
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 10: saw it for yourself.

1639
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 9: We'll see, well, we'll see.

1640
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Not a man of many words, but you certainly

1641
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: get some idea there. Let's take a look at their

1642
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: face off. If we can be seen get some reactions

1643
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: just two dead eyed motherfuckers.

1644
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: Huh luke. Here's what. Here's what. The term woudn't be

1645
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: scares me. But here's what's blinking in my brain when

1646
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: I think about who's going to win this fight. Okay,

1647
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: because I I I had bev All win in the

1648
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: first fight. I thought he fought better all things considered,

1649
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: I thought he was the better man that night. But

1650
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: I think the better fighter between the two of them

1651
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: all time is better Viev. I think he has stronger

1652
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: skills in the areas that he needs to be And

1653
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: if he's coming in and the knee is not a

1654
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: problem and he's in even better shape, And if bev

1655
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: All is who's always honest, is straight up telling us

1656
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: his playbook, like I'm obviously there's other elements to the

1657
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: attack he's gonna bring this time, But he's saying, I'm

1658
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 2: gonna be more offensive and I'm gonna have the stamina

1659
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: to go harder. He might get what he's asking for

1660
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: from better bev in that regard.

1661
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1662
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: If he comes in with the mindset that I'm gonna

1663
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 2: be a sportsman and leave it all in the ring

1664
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: and risk getting knocked out and go for it. Even

1665
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: with better Viv's slight decline now at age forty, and

1666
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: even with the fact that you can't hurt him, you

1667
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: can wobble him like you can bet bev All showed

1668
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 2: us briefly. I'm still a little bit worried that Bevall

1669
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: is going to turn it up too much and f

1670
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: around and find out here against this absolute monster. What

1671
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?

1672
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: I think I thought Bivall won the first I can't remember.

1673
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: I felt like Bivll was the better boxer, but he

1674
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: wasn't the better punisher, and the better punisher won out,

1675
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: and that probably is what's gonna happen the second time,

1676
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: but it's just really hard to tell. Still, I love

1677
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: seeing little glimpses of better Bev's personality. We have this

1678
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: exchange with Eddie Hearn that I thought was really funny.

1679
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 11: Let's take a look, you know, Arter Betyev said, who

1680
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 11: is Eddie Hearn?

1681
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: Look?

1682
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: You don't know what to believe these days.

1683
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 11: But there are unconfirmed reports that back in Canada, Arter

1684
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 11: Betty Beev does own a copy of my book. He

1685
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 11: bought the latest Men's Health magazine with me on the cover,

1686
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 11: and has pre ordered the Eddie Hearn pajamas that drop

1687
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty five. So we don't know what to believe,

1688
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 11: but in all seriousness we try and have a little

1689
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 11: bit of fun after Betsy beev is.

1690
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: One of the great fighters of our generation?

1691
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: Is this true? Arthur?

1692
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 10: Have you pre ordered Eddie's book? Have you got some

1693
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 10: pajamas Eddie Hearn? Anything to say?

1694
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 9: If I'd understand it, would see.

1695
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: I was just saying, we're friends.

1696
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 9: I can't say anything like you say, Oh, it's anything

1697
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 9: like you know, I know what do you want?

1698
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: Do you say all of this like this?

1699
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 11: I was just saying that, deep down we're very good friends.

1700
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course you'll. You'll give me up on and

1701
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 9: I beat them.

1702
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So we're friendly with the good business.

1703
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, continue, you'll been planning that one.

1704
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad, not bad, decent sing I thought.

1705
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: He's quietly hilarious. I gotta give him credit. But look,

1706
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: imagine if everything he's accomplished in his career, right, he

1707
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: just broke his knockout streak after knocking out his first

1708
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 2: twenty opponents. Could you imagine if he has two wins

1709
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: against Bevall, one of them by finish, the future will

1710
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: be very interesting because we know he's not gonna fight forever.

1711
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: But whatever he ends up choosing with those two three

1712
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: four fights, whatever however he would have left. You've got

1713
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: everybody from Opataya at cruiserweight to Usik given their amateur history,

1714
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: even though even though you always see better be of

1715
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 2: going eh, he's a little too big. From bena Vedez

1716
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: to Canelo. I mean, like there's a lot going on

1717
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: right now. This could get very interesting.

1718
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: So let me ask this last question on this topic.

1719
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: The winner is likely likely to face David Benavidez, who,

1720
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, accepted the invitation from Turkey Ala Chik

1721
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: to be in attendance. Who is a tougher matchup for

1722
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: David Benavidez BC better Beev or Beval.

1723
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: Better Beev And I think what adds to that is

1724
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: better is Benevite is sharing that he's sparred Bevall multiple

1725
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: times and you know quote I heard him and not

1726
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: bragging but just being like, yeah, I thought that guy

1727
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: and I had success in there. So I think that

1728
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: confidence level, even though Bivoll is incredibly skilled and quick

1729
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: and all you know, powerful too, Better Beev's just different.

1730
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: I think Better Beev has a deeper well to pull from,

1731
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: to battle back from being hurt, or to survive and

1732
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: push through a potential high level war. Better Beev is

1733
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 2: that dude. He's just that dude. I mean, he's a

1734
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: freak of nature. You know, his his strange workouts and

1735
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: his insane strength, and I mean, look, he's taking these

1736
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: giant one hundred pound dumbbells and throwing them up in

1737
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: the air and catching them, and I mean, like just

1738
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: on the guys out of control in that regard. But

1739
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: I want to add one thing, and I want to

1740
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: get your quick reaction. Okay, there are a lot of

1741
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: people in the both the boxing and MMA Twitter space

1742
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: these days who are making reporting harder because there's a

1743
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: lot of fake accounts. You know, there's Mick Coppinger, there's

1744
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: always fake aerial ones floating around. And then there's people

1745
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: that aren't even journalists that are becoming newsbreakers and we

1746
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: don't know if we can take them seriously. But I

1747
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 2: will say I've liked what brunch Boxing has done. They've

1748
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 2: come on the scene lately, they've been breaking stories. They're

1749
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: doing constant live podcast on Twitter there and they have

1750
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,839
Speaker 2: a report yesterday that they claim Canelo has not signed

1751
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: the Crawford contract yet even though the fight was announced,

1752
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: and that the Benavidez fight could still be in play

1753
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: for the fall. And they are reporting that Benavidez is

1754
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: going to meet with Turkey and that team Benavetez was

1755
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: told that if you come here, we have a contract

1756
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: for you, and that they asked is Canelo on that?

1757
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: If Canelo's on that contract, will sign it. That's a

1758
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,839
Speaker 2: quote from brunch Boxing reporting that cons.

1759
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind Turkey wants it. There's

1760
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind brunch when I give the

1761
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: thumbs down. I like brunchboxing too. I'm sure the report

1762
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: is accurate. I have no reason to doubt it whatsoever.

1763
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Turkey wants it. Brunch Boxing, I'm sure is accurate. David

1764
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: Benavidez wants it. Canelo doesn't want it, and if he

1765
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: doesn't want it, it's simply not going to happen. That's

1766
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: just what the reality is. So okay.

1767
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: Canello's a businessman though at the end of the day,

1768
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: which means maybe precise maybe in his heart he knows

1769
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to take it eventually, but I'm going to

1770
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: maneuver myself into the best possible position, which might be

1771
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: forcing Benavitaz to come back down to sixty eight, you

1772
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Maybe that was the strategy. Let

1773
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: him go up to seventy five, get used to the weight.

1774
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: Maybe that was it. I know that Canelo doesn't deserve

1775
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: me potentially sticking up for him and trying to present

1776
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: this scenario because he's shamelessly duck this guy. Let's be

1777
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: outright with That's.

1778
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: Like undeniable at this point.

1779
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: But I'm optimistic. I am optimistic, Luke. This undercard still

1780
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: bangs with the chain and you know it.

1781
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. Topic number four, which is

1782
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: basically the rest of this card. Now, we don't have

1783
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: time to really go into each of these fights, but

1784
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: I think just kind of hitting the high notes on

1785
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: the rest of these is important. Now, BC, there have

1786
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: been some changes to the card. First, let me read

1787
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,919
Speaker 1: through what the card now today looks like. Martin Bucoli

1788
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: is going to take on Joseph Parker. Martin Bucoli is

1789
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: replacing obviously Daniel Dubois. Shaker Stevenson is fighting Josh Padley.

1790
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: Of course that was supposed to be. How do you

1791
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 1: pronounce the kid's last name, Schoolfield, Showfield Field, Schofield.

1792
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: He got at debacle and a soap opera onto itself.

1793
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. That'll be for Stevenson's WBC lightweight title.

1794
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: Carlos Adamis taken on Hamsa Shiraz for the WBC middleweight title.

1795
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz taken on Israel Madramal. That's a hell of

1796
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: a fight, Uh, big Bangjang taking on how do you

1797
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: pronounce this guy's name, Ajitabel. That'll be for the vacant

1798
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: WBC Interim heavyweightotter, for whatever that is worth. And then

1799
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: the card opens the main card anyway with Joshua Blatzi

1800
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: taken on Callum Smith. Let's start at the top. BC

1801
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Martin McCoy comes in on late notice. I want to

1802
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: point out something obviously BC, these changes to the card

1803
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: where they had to patch it up very quickly. They

1804
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: this is all made possible by the extraordinary wealth that

1805
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and Turkey Ala Chik has like this obviously right,

1806
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: But the model of like quickly replacing everything and then

1807
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: putting it together and then the fans just don't have

1808
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: to worry about whether an event is going to take place.

1809
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: This is quite obviously Turkey borrowing the UFC model, and

1810
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: this is not a model that doesn't have its downsides.

1811
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't know that I like it per se,

1812
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: But the fans don't seem to mind. And I have

1813
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: to say, BC, I'm looking around, I don't really see

1814
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: any boxing fans complaining too too much. I mean some,

1815
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: but they always complain and don't I don't think that

1816
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: represents necessarily the majority of fans. Is that a fair assessment?

1817
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, I really feel like Baccoley was such a

1818
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 2: best case scenario in terms of replacement that all anything

1819
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 2: short of this would have felt like this card took

1820
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,839
Speaker 2: two legitimate hits with the Schofield fallen off and then Dubois.

1821
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: But this has like inflated that flat tire back up

1822
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 2: because of Bacoley's personality his style. But look, he looks

1823
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: like he's like three bills right now, and yet he

1824
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: jumped on this plane and took this opportunity to go

1825
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 2: in there against Parker. It's not a better matchup than

1826
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 2: Dubois Parker would have been, but it still really matters.

1827
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: And bet your ass if Bacoley can continue his dominance

1828
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 2: as unlikely as it might be, giving the scenario, he

1829
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: could be fighting usick next.

1830
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: For all we know, Martin mccoley is fat as hell.

1831
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: See what it is, and maybe it doesn't matter. It's

1832
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: got to matter in some form here.

1833
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: It probably will if it goes late. If you're Joseph Parker,

1834
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: you know you got to be wary of his power,

1835
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: but you're probably gonna want to put a pace on

1836
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: him because God only knows what shape he's in. Right,

1837
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: That's just the reality. BC. I love this fight. I

1838
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: don't love it as much as I would have loved

1839
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: Dubla versus Parker, and I think that would have been

1840
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: a much more interesting fight. Obviously, dubi getting sick and

1841
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to say this, Dubois getting sick BC saved

1842
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: Schofield's career. Can I just say that, like, where'd he go?

1843
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Where did he go?

1844
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Sorry? I had cat issues? Okay, I had to let

1845
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: the cat out.

1846
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, all right, no worries, I get it. I was

1847
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna say, didn't Dubah getting sick kind of save Schoofield's

1848
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: career a little bit. He was looking terrible early in

1849
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: the week, and then Duboa gets sick and you're like,

1850
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: all right, maybe there's something happening here.

1851
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't know about career, but at least reputation. And

1852
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: if Floyd Schofield, I want to say pulling out of

1853
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: the fight, but technically the British Board of Boxing Control

1854
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: medically withdrew him like the soap opera attached to that.

1855
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: If that irritated Turkey and we don't really know the

1856
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 2: behind the scenes mechanisms there, it could have been a

1857
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: disaster for meaning the reports were that he was getting

1858
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: as high as four million for this fight to fight

1859
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: schakor so if you if he had pulled out because

1860
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 2: he was afraid or didn't want the fight anymore, then

1861
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: that that could have been disastrous for the future of him.

1862
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: But Luke, it is star to like people are believing

1863
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: because his father took the video of him in the

1864
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 2: hospital bed, you know, looking not great at all, and

1865
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 2: now Dubois coming off, You're starting to wonder is it

1866
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: something in the food or you know, the climate and

1867
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 2: trying to cut weight or what have you. But what

1868
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 2: did not help Schofield is the aggressiveness of his dad

1869
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 2: on social media, his trainer and manager, and almost the

1870
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: insinuation or the outright insinuations that first shaker Stephenson's massuse had,

1871
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: you know, drugged him with some cream, you know what

1872
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then and then then suddenly the same account,

1873
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: the Schofield account that the dad and sons share, is

1874
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: like putting out there. They just want to say we're sorry.

1875
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: It's definitely not Shakurse kurkura, no pard in it. So

1876
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: it's like where they threatened to get sued. It's just

1877
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: been kind of like wild and all over the place.

1878
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 2: And Scofield's dad is talking in a manner of which

1879
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: he's almost saying, I know something happened, but I don't

1880
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: want to get sued, so I've got to do this

1881
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: the safest way. And we're just happy thanks to Sarry

1882
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: for the care, and we're just happy to get home safe.

1883
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 2: I don't really know what happened, Luke, but I think

1884
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: you're right. Reputationally the Dubois thing corroborated with that. Either way,

1885
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 2: it's disappointing to see. I hope Schofield didn't pull out.

1886
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 2: He looked pretty sick in that photo. I just do

1887
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: remember that time that Oscar de la Hooya put a

1888
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: false hospital videout when he pulled out of that Vito

1889
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Belfort trailer fight. Luke, you remember that, right, And now

1890
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: he's just sort of like, oh yeah, I pulled out

1891
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: of that because you know, because yeah.

1892
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very quickly. Martin mccully's manager explained how quickly

1893
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: this fight got made. Let's take a look at the clip.

1894
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 12: I was up there on the press conference. I come concentrate,

1895
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 12: I'm not talking, I'm not even looking up, and I

1896
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 12: apologize if that looked rude. I was trying to make

1897
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 12: the fight and we're trying to get it over the line,

1898
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 12: and came off out the press conference, spoke to his

1899
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 12: excellency a couple of times. Deal was done in about

1900
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 12: fifteen minutes.

1901
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, talk to.

1902
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 3: Me about that.

1903
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: When did you know the what was putting out?

1904
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: When did you know what mccoley was in? When did I?

1905
01:31:59,640 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: I knew?

1906
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 12: Look, to be honest, I just saw the news that

1907
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 12: you saw around Daniel. I wasn't absolutely sure whether it

1908
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 12: was it was one hundred percent or not. Obviously at

1909
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 12: that point everyone's putting the names forward. We felt like

1910
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 12: the only fifty fifth. You know, this card is about

1911
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 12: a historic card. This is about a fifty to fifty

1912
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 12: card and for me, that was the only fight to

1913
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 12: make if you're trying to do this, But for me,

1914
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 12: everyone deserves a lot of credit. Everyone's taking a lot

1915
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 12: of risk. But I hope Miran mccoley gets the appreciation

1916
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 12: of every boxing fan because to do this on two

1917
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 12: day's notice, a top five heavyweight like that with a

1918
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 12: final eliminator around the corner for our entertainments to add

1919
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 12: to the greatest card I believe of all time, he

1920
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 12: deserves absolutely every credit.

1921
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, not just that, Joseph Parker deserves a lot of

1922
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: credit for taking on a complete change in the end

1923
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: as well. B See how different are the styles between

1924
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Dubois and Bocaulay. They're pretty different.

1925
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 2: They're pretty different. But this version is du why as

1926
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 2: a straight ahead destroyer, especially the you know, coming off

1927
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: of the most recent fight against him, the Joshua where

1928
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 2: he was like possessed to go through aj and he did,

1929
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 2: even getting hurt himself briefly in the same round that

1930
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 2: he delivered the knockout. But dus better skills than McCauley,

1931
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Beccoley's six foot six, strong

1932
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,879
Speaker 2: as hell, big, durable, gets up inside of you lingers

1933
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: in the pocket with you and tries to overwhelm you

1934
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: in like a raw, old school young George Foreman way,

1935
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 2: even though Foreman was an Olympic gold medalist and certainly

1936
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: could box just the same. I think dubas the better

1937
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 2: athlete and boxer, But this is just as dangerous. Less

1938
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: dangerous on the potential of Parker taking him into deep waters,

1939
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: which he should try to do basically and try to

1940
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: gas him out, but also dangerous because mccoley's gonna be

1941
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: looking to make this a war even more, even more

1942
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 2: than he normally would, and Parker cambang like Parker could

1943
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 2: also knock him out. So it's gonna be fun to

1944
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: watch this for as long as Bacoli has gas is

1945
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: gonna be fun to watch.

1946
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Bacoli looks like a modern George Foreman, not quite as

1947
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: good as Foreman obviously, and you know, but he just

1948
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: punches like him, he mechanically moves like him. It's just

1949
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of big George in him. But as

1950
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: we mentioned, he looks fat as hell and taking this

1951
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: on very short notice. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous opponent for Joseph Parker.

1952
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: But there are some limits to what he can offer.

1953
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow we shall see you here.

1954
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't know ultimately what Pacoli's going to get for

1955
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 2: taking this on short notice, right, we know, a big payday.

1956
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 2: But Eddie Hearn revealed that josh Padley, who's going to

1957
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 2: fight Shakor and replace Schofield, that they not only gave

1958
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: him a ridiculous career high payday, but that Turkey bottom

1959
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: of house for accepting that fight a late notice. So like,

1960
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 2: as much as we could kind of laugh at that,

1961
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: because it's unusual, like these guys are getting their lives

1962
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 2: turned around taking these opportunities, I'm happy for the fighters

1963
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: in that regard.

1964
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: One of the benefits of this, again, every style of

1965
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: not just matchmaking, but keeping cards together or letting them

1966
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: fall up part when fights fall through. There's pluses and

1967
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: minuses to either strategy. And obviously, you know, one of

1968
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: the pluses for fighters who are taking on a short

1969
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: notice when they do this kind of thing where they

1970
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: just know they patch it up right away, is that

1971
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: they need these fighters big time to keep it up,

1972
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: and that's a great way to get paid. Joshua Padley

1973
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: is a guy who was literally electrician. I thought Caleb

1974
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,879
Speaker 1: Plant had a great tweet about it. Not a goddamn

1975
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: thing wrong about it that he was in this position.

1976
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 1: It's short notice. Who the hell can they find? No

1977
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: one wants to fight shir Cur Stevenson any way, much

1978
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: less on short notice. You're not gonna get the cream

1979
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,759
Speaker 1: of the crop. There's absolutely nothing disreputable about what's happened.

1980
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 1: But in fact, you see Joshua Padley did speak to

1981
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: Ring magazine about how this fight kind of fell in

1982
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: his lap. Let's hear from.

1983
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 13: Him Tuesday, doing normal until six o'clock, had to go

1984
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 13: up and gone to Wick and Stuffs as usual, and

1985
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 13: then my money, Jeff tell me wrang me saying you're

1986
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 13: not gonna believe phone call the I've just stops wash

1987
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 13: away quit jump punk Scales now. And I'm like, and

1988
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 13: he's like, you need to jump out by and tell

1989
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 13: me is that jump punk Scales't tell me away? So

1990
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 13: we did any were like, I've just had a call

1991
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 13: for Stevenson.

1992
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: His opponents out.

1993
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:06,759
Speaker 3: They want you so obviously.

1994
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 13: Then it were a case of Ring the nutrition is

1995
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 13: straight away, make sure we can do it safely and

1996
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 13: obviously healthy and everything, and then went into negotiation and

1997
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 13: after about forty thousand laps at kitchen and me pacing

1998
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 13: up and down. If you can go to twenty five

1999
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 13: past ten that night, we got the we got the

2000
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 13: old well, we got the if you can get through

2001
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 13: the next day, because they had two little A cups

2002
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 13: to do one one thing women medical and then one

2003
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 13: thing with the checkwit. If you can get through these tomorrow,

2004
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 13: we'll butt you a fly. So yeah, crazy, crazy.

2005
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Insane that this fell in his lap. B See course

2006
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: Stephenson should beat the fuck out of him. I'm not

2007
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: even trying to be mean. I'm absolutely not. I have

2008
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: total respect for this guy. The balls he's showing, the

2009
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: Marxie he's got. I hope he.

2010
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Got's a call because he upset Turkey's boy, Mark Chamberlain,

2011
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: who was a young British kid who Turkey identified as

2012
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: his favorite fighter. They fought on that in God I'm sorry. Yeah,

2013
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: they know the Joshua du Bacard in Wembley and uh

2014
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: so to escalate from winning that kind of like the

2015
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: dude that Lucas body that knocked out Ashton silv Like

2016
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: he then got signed by MVP and now he's going

2017
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 2: to main event.

2018
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: One of their in Canadas. Yeah, so I like.

2019
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 2: That this kid's getting this opportunity, life changing opportunities, getting

2020
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 2: literally from the fact, from the damn factory more or

2021
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 2: less right for wherever he's working.

2022
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: But in all likelihoods, Shager Stevenson should beat the living

2023
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: shit out of him. There's a vast difference in ability.

2024
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Let's just hear very I want to get your take

2025
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: on this, but let's just very quickly hear from Shakor

2026
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: who has not had the most on what would you say,

2027
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: the smoothest week I've ever seen?

2028
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 4: Do you just believe it? I believe Come.

2029
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 14: On, like I'm telling you, I think this kid was

2030
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 14: losing my This is my assumption of a whole situation.

2031
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,879
Speaker 14: I think this kid was struggling to make the weight class,

2032
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 14: and I feel like he may have tried last minute

2033
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 14: to make the weight and he probably kind of had

2034
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 14: weight problems, and I think that was really the issue.

2035
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 14: But instead of saying it, you know, they like to

2036
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 14: come up with all types of crazy stuff every day.

2037
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 14: So it was more disappointed because of I felt as

2038
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 14: though a lot of people did not want that fight,

2039
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 14: Like a lot of people was like, why would you.

2040
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:26,759
Speaker 2: Fight this guy? So truthfully, I just was, you know, giving.

2041
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 14: Him an opportunity because he's been calling my name out

2042
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 14: his entire career. He's been using my name to build

2043
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 14: himself up. So I gave him the opportunity. And now

2044
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 14: it's like, Okay, I did this, and this guy basically

2045
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 14: slapped me in the face at the same time too,

2046
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 14: just because the opportunity was for you, bro, So I

2047
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,839
Speaker 14: was gonna beat you up in front of the public

2048
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 14: and everybody was gonna watch. But truthfully, I wanted to,

2049
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 14: you know, give you opportunity at making some big money too.

2050
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 14: So truthfully it was a slapping face to me too.

2051
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let me ask the question this way.

2052
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,480
Speaker 1: We often see that late minute, let late notice opponents

2053
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: can force a fighter to be sometimes sometimes a little

2054
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: bit more reserved. Cha cour Stevenson has already had a

2055
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: bit of a problem with that. There is no denying

2056
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: Shakur is just so much better than this guy. But

2057
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: could the late switch and everything else that's happened with

2058
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Shakoor kind of make him have a bit of a

2059
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: ho hum performance or should we expect to stoppage.

2060
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 2: We should expect to stoppage not just because of the

2061
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: huge gap and skill level, but and the situation with

2062
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: the last minute, and you know, Shakur had a full camp,

2063
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 2: Like I think Schikur really did prepare for this fight,

2064
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: knowing that it was at the same time a showcase fight,

2065
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 2: and Schofield like he brought something to the table, and

2066
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 2: I think Shakur took that seriously, even though he expected

2067
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 2: to beat him up, and so did the odds makers,

2068
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: having at minus twelve hundred for the original fight. But

2069
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 2: I thought there was some intrigue around that this is

2070
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: about just don't get hurt, but it's also a commercial

2071
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: for Shakor. And you say it was a tough week.

2072
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 2: It's been a tough year plus for the guy. Right.

2073
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: Some of it people can think is self induced because

2074
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 2: of the performances in which he box safely and people

2075
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: you know bo I mean got boot out of his

2076
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: home arena and cutting ties with top rank and all that,

2077
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 2: becoming a free agent, not getting this to pay the

2078
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: fight because of the injury, like all that, he's being

2079
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 2: avoided constantly. But the thing that I have liked that

2080
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: has happened since this announcement is that Eddie Hearn has

2081
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 2: gone out of his way on the microphone every single

2082
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 2: time to say, oh, don't worry. Our goal, without a

2083
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: ounce of a question, is to make Tank versus Shakur

2084
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 2: later this year, and I know that would that would

2085
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 2: mean putting al Hayman and Turkey on the same table.

2086
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: And you know some people Carlos A. Damas is a

2087
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 2: PBC guy who's going to be on this card on Saturday.

2088
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: But that would be a new level since Dravante had

2089
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: been the most outspoken against Turkey. But if Turkey's money

2090
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 2: is involved here and and there's a price, and he

2091
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: can meet that, then this is a commercial for Shakor

2092
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: for the future, and hopefully it does lead it to

2093
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 2: him to get the big fight, because I think even

2094
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 2: though he probably got paid very well signing with Eddie

2095
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 2: and Turkey, I think you can argue that it would

2096
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 2: have been a better move for his career to sign

2097
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: with PBC to get the Tank fight. Hopefully they can

2098
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 2: still do it even with all those cooks in the kitchen.

2099
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: I'll say this a nice performance which he should have

2100
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: obviously makes a fight with Tank easier. I don't expect

2101
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: him to struggle, be see that's not what I'm saying.

2102
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: But if it happens, God only knows what his options

2103
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: are going to be after that, they'll still be good.

2104
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: But he really needs a really strong performance here, I

2105
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: think to reset expectations and get people excited about his offen.

2106
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 2: I got to get your take on if you think

2107
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 2: Tank versus Shakhor will happen this year and your thoughts

2108
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: when you and I got all excited about Shakur and

2109
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Keishon Davis first saying they'd never fight each other and

2110
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 2: they're best friends, and now both being like, well, yeah, the.

2111
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 1: Money we send the contract, Yeah yeah, the Kishon Davis

2112
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: one is interesting. I really hope that that's the one

2113
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: that can be made. I don't know what to make

2114
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: about Tank. I think he's got a lot of the

2115
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 1: Canelo thing going on where he just doesn't want the

2116
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: tough fights. Lamont Roach is a very skilled fighter, but

2117
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: he's a little small obviously.

2118
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 2: Oh he's confident in his shit. You know that from

2119
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 2: interviewing it.

2120
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: I love I love lam I love Lamont Roache.

2121
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 2: I have a lot of him yesterday. He is confident

2122
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 2: as hell that he's not.

2123
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 8: Is he not?

2124
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: But what I mean is, you know, is Tank like

2125
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: trying to find at his weight class the smoke and

2126
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: it's like I haven't seen a lot of evidence of that.

2127
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: But let's see what happens. He says he's got limited

2128
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: time left in the game. I certainly hope to be

2129
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 1: wrong about that.

2130
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said three fights in one of the most

2131
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: recent sit downs he.

2132
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: Did yeah, which was yeah, yeah, that's about right. All right,

2133
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: b see quickly, let's go through the rest of this card.

2134
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: Give me, give me the one thing that we should

2135
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: know about. Carlos Adams taken on Hamsan shiras a.

2136
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 2: Really good fight. It really is, like, like you know, critically,

2137
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,799
Speaker 2: it's an incredible fight for the hardcorese adamis is exciting

2138
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: as heck. He just hasn't had the opportunity to build

2139
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 2: on the momentum he's got while moving up to one

2140
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: sixty and becoming a force here and becoming a world

2141
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 2: title holder. He never got the Jamal Charlo fight that

2142
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 2: he deserved because of Charlo's outside the ring issues. So

2143
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 2: he's an explosive, solid Paul. He can box and he

2144
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: can bang, but he's fighting a guy who could be

2145
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: the next big thing in middleweight needs things outside of

2146
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: jannebec right, and and you know, we have Laura with

2147
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 2: a title. But he's inactive and never seems to be

2148
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 2: fighting top end guys. Well, Adamas wants smoke hamzas Hiraz

2149
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: has been knocking everyone out. But this is a step

2150
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 2: up in class. This is a step up here. So

2151
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 2: this is a really good ass fight that feels very

2152
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. Uh, even if the odds don't exactly

2153
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 2: lament that, I'm looking forward to it. It's probably the

2154
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 2: sleeper of the cart. It's you know, it definitely is

2155
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 2: the sleeper of the card.

2156
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: So for me, the one that's the most interesting is

2157
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: the one that's next on it, which is Virgil Ortiz

2158
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: Junior taken on Israel Madromov. Madromov folks about recall was

2159
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: the one that gave Bud Crawford a bit of a

2160
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: tough fight in LA during the summer, and then Virgil

2161
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Ortiz BC. What can we say, just all action All

2162
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: the time we thought we were gonna get a boots fight.

2163
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: That's not happening. But again, how do these two match

2164
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: up if and I guess the question I'm asking is

2165
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: of any fight on this card that is likely to

2166
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: be an action fight, you would probably pick the Comaine

2167
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: And I think this one that right or wrong?

2168
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be the fight of the

2169
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 2: night unless better BV and bevall do exactly what I

2170
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: predicted they would, which is take the first one in,

2171
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, and add on a ton of more back

2172
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 2: and forth in it and have all action classic. This

2173
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 2: one will be a thrilling, tense, amazing fight, no question

2174
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 2: about it. So Virgil Ortiz Junior had a similar knockout

2175
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 2: streak to better BV going into his last fight, but

2176
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 2: he was forced to move up to one fifty four

2177
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 2: after that unbeaten run at welterweight because of all of

2178
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,560
Speaker 2: those health issues that really kept him out of the

2179
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: ring for like two years, had to cancel so many fights.

2180
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 2: Yet what has he done since coming to fifty four?

2181
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: You know, knocked out two aging names to prove himself

2182
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,480
Speaker 2: and then went in there, like you said, against Boachuk,

2183
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 2: got off of the Kansas twice in a fight that

2184
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 2: would have been fight of the year any other year,

2185
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 2: and is now in position to try to climb this

2186
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: ladder at fifty four. Fifty four has been thrown upside down,

2187
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: shaken up, Everyone got their salad tossed, if you know

2188
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: what I mean, Luke, And now we're trying to figure

2189
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 2: in theory. In theory, I mean with mustard or.

2190
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: I haven't heard about jelly.

2191
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there we go. Definitely the jelly. So it's

2192
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: just such a perfect matchup in styles temperament. Ortiz only

2193
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 2: knows how to come forward. Yes, he can box, but

2194
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 2: his explosive hooks with both hands, his combinations, he gets

2195
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: right inside in the pocket, and that's where he wants

2196
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 2: to be. He's a Fight of the Year candidate waiting

2197
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 2: to happen every single time out. He's also super skilled, undefeated,

2198
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 2: and just went the distance for the first time in

2199
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 2: his career. Modra Mov we were never really sure about

2200
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 2: until his last fight, the defeat against Terrence Crawford, where

2201
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 2: even if Crawford came in undermotivated coming off of the

2202
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Spence fight, in the big layoff, however you want to

2203
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 2: dial it up. I personally think modra Mov's movement in

2204
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 2: feints gave Crawford hell. But Crawford had to show his

2205
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: greatness at a new division at one fifty four and

2206
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 2: that fight out late and figure out the angles to

2207
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 2: win more rounds than he lost, and he did that.

2208
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: But Madromov's awkwardness mixed with the fact that he's constantly

2209
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 2: coming forward, is going to meet in a perfect all

2210
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 2: action sandwich here, but it's really gonna be Madromov that's

2211
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: gonna make Virgil Ortiz have to use his brain on

2212
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 2: a very high level. I don't know, I'm gonna lean Madromov. Well,

2213
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 2: he's got plus money on him. It's very close on

2214
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 2: the odds that that. What he showed against Crawford, to

2215
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: me was another level of understanding in craft. Obviously, Ortiz

2216
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 2: is going to try to get him into a war. Inevitably,

2217
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 2: they're going to bang Luke, but Madrov's to make sure

2218
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: he throws enough punches or Ortiz will win a decision

2219
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 2: on volume alone. And I think he may approve that.

2220
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 1: In the bowchuck fight, our friends at DraftKings have, by

2221
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: the way, in the previous fight, Carlos adamis at plus

2222
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: two fifty five. They have Sharaz at minus three thirty

2223
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 1: for this fight. They've got listen to this man. How

2224
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,719
Speaker 1: often do you see boxing fights like this? Virgil Ortiz

2225
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: minus one twenty five to Madromov's plus one hundred and

2226
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: absolutely razor thin fight to action fighters, That one's gonna

2227
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 1: be the one to watch. I think very quickly, BC,

2228
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 1: you got Big Bang Jang taken on object Kabayel. That's

2229
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: a really good fight as well. Very quickly. He's still

2230
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: doing Show us Long Island Luke the No Diddy bit.

2231
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 10: Chile was asked earlier in the week to give three

2232
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 10: reasons why he beats you. His reasons were, bang bang bang, Yeah,

2233
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 10: I heard you say.

2234
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: This mort time he would bang me.

2235
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 7: You know something that you would see he banged me

2236
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,480
Speaker 7: or I bang him.

2237
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm bigger bad I find you.

2238
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 4: No d.

2239
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Dude.

2240
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: Seriously, the bit's overdone, but his joy, his joy alone,

2241
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: continues to make me laugh out loud until I cry

2242
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: every time he does this bit, which is basically, if

2243
01:47:56,120 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 2: you go to the Queensberry Instagram account, he does this

2244
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: bit every day. There's a video on there every day

2245
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 2: with him.

2246
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,879
Speaker 1: Really, this is how he orders food at the restaurant.

2247
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm gonna bang you No Diddy and they're like,

2248
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'll just get you a cheeseburger. Yeah,

2249
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: mbc BC, we all kind of know who Big Bangjang is.

2250
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 1: At least most folks have some idea about him.

2251
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: What about Ajic Kabayel, Yeah, he kind of at least

2252
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 2: on my radar as a non American heavyweight. Really just

2253
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 2: kind of came up on the scene in that fight

2254
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 2: against unbeaten Frank Sanchez and not only beat him, delivered

2255
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 2: to Ko and you're like, oh, okay, this guy is

2256
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 2: someone I seriously have to take into account now. This

2257
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 2: is a step up in class for him. Yeah, I'd

2258
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 2: say that, but he has been escalating the right way,

2259
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 2: fighting the next level guys and showing us tough guys

2260
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 2: got some power. Can box Zang's a tough out, Luke,

2261
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 2: we know this. Can you outwork Zang over twelve? You

2262
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 2: better have a chin? First of all, you better be

2263
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: willing to get into a war and get up from

2264
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 2: the canvas. But yes, there's always, always, always stamming the

2265
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: issues following big bang around. But there are pockets in

2266
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: this fight, usually two to three rounds at a time,

2267
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 2: where he looks like South Paul Muhammad Ali and he's

2268
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 2: knocking guys heads back with stiff, straight, accurate shots. So

2269
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out if Kabayel has the chin on

2270
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: this level, he's either gonna get kot or win by it.

2271
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 2: In my opinion, this is gonna be a wild and

2272
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,480
Speaker 2: fun ass fight last.

2273
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: But not least BC. I don't know this is the

2274
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 1: one that the folks care most about. But what should

2275
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: we know about Joshua Blazzi and Callum Smith.

2276
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah for being the curtain jerker here on this seven

2277
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 2: fight feature. You know, I think there's two other fights

2278
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: that all start to like ten thirty in the morning

2279
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 2: Eastern time, But this is a really good fight and

2280
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 2: the one that's probably getting the least amount of love.

2281
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 2: Joshua Batzi has looked for a long time coming out

2282
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 2: of the UK that he's like the future of this division,

2283
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: but like every step up opportunity or every close up,

2284
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 2: like he's looked good. He looked pretty good, but like

2285
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: he hasn't won us over. Now he's fighting Callum Smith, who,

2286
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:57,839
Speaker 2: despite being knocked out by Better BV recently, is battle tested,

2287
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 2: former world champion only law to Canelo and Better be It. Okay,

2288
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 2: So that's what we're talking about here. We're gonna find

2289
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 2: out everything we really need to know about Buwati. That's

2290
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 2: what this fight is about. I think there's an interim

2291
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 2: title at stake in some form, but this is about

2292
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: finding that out using Callum Smith as the measuring stick.

2293
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 2: Is he still does he still matter in this division

2294
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 2: if he wins this fight. He does, so don't sleep

2295
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: on this one fall, you know, wake up in time

2296
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 2: for this and let's hit it hard. I mean, are

2297
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 2: you doing an all day live stream, Luke? Are you

2298
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 2: just based on not.

2299
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: Quite all day? Not quite all day. I'm probably gonna

2300
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: skip the first one or two of these and then

2301
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get going and do all So I'll probably

2302
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: do the top five. And my friend Othello is gonna

2303
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: be with me as well, so that should be a

2304
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 1: real fun.

2305
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's a great guy.

2306
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: Othello's the man shot so who By the way, he

2307
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: texted me today and he'll announce this tomorrow on the

2308
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: live stream. He got laid off this morning, so.

2309
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, or went out for Othello And he's a big

2310
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: reddick guy, that guy. Othella love him.

2311
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 3: You know.

2312
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: Lots of lots of those layoffs happening around this area

2313
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 1: of these days. All right. You see very quickly the DraftKings'

2314
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: odds on this one for big Bangjang and Kabayel Jang

2315
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 1: a very slight underdog plus one thirty five Kabel minus

2316
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: one sixty five. Again another well matched fight and then

2317
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: in the DraftKings odds for Buwatzi minus two oh five

2318
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 1: and then Smith plus one sixty five. You see this

2319
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 1: part for.

2320
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Luke. You know that in

2321
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 2: the last year and a half, I've really been motivated

2322
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 2: to be health conscious to turn my situation around. And

2323
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 2: I think a big part of trying to build consistency

2324
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: is having a consistent routine, having a consistent start to

2325
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: your day, to your week, to how you treat yourself.

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Speaker 1: Right, topic number five if we can, BC, let's talk

2353
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: about the UFC fights that are in fact tomorrow. I mean,

2354
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: there's so much going on you're almost lose sight of it,

2355
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: but there are some gems on this card. And as

2356
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: UFC returns to Seattle, BC, your main event is going

2357
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: to feature Henry Sahudo at age I think thirty seven

2358
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 1: thirty eight now taking on Song Yadong. Both fighters began

2359
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: their pro careers in twenty thirteen, but have had very

2360
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,560
Speaker 1: different experiences coming into this fight. It's obviously kind of

2361
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: like an old versus young thing, which we've seen continuously

2362
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 1: with the UFC and more recently. What is one issue

2363
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 1: each fighter has had that has held them back that

2364
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: they need to fix in order to win this particular contest.

2365
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for Sahudo first and foremost, it's activity level.

2366
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 2: It's not I mean, how he can't turn back time.

2367
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 2: But what have we seen of the post retirement Suhudo,

2368
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 2: who's stepped away at the peak of his powers, earning

2369
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 2: prime in twenty twenty and took three years off after

2370
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: a run to two championships. I don't know on hindsight

2371
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 2: if we're going to say that was a bad decision,

2372
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: that was whatever. I mean, there were some changes in

2373
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: his personal life that he needed to go through, but

2374
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 2: when he came back he's still super elite. But after

2375
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: losing a split decision to al Jamaine Sterling for the

2376
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 2: title and then losing a close but I think visually

2377
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 2: a thorough defeat to future champion Morob Devashvilli in their

2378
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 2: three round test. I think we learned that he's got

2379
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 2: to get himself to a higher gear, faster and more

2380
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: consistently from the standpoint of carrying out his game plan,

2381
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 2: being active enough and obviously mixing the threat of the

2382
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: takedown with his hands. He can't handle himself in action

2383
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 2: fights or in certain situations there, but he's at his

2384
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: best when he's keeping guys down on their back and

2385
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: having that weapon in his pocket, but having the motor

2386
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 2: and the tank at this age to be able to

2387
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: be himself. Obviously you get older, you got to cut

2388
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: corners in terms of how much you can work p

2389
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 2: around and different aspects on there. He's almost got to

2390
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: be perfect to beat these young lions. I think he

2391
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 2: still has enough. I think he's smarter than ever and

2392
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 2: he's in His skills are still there. But for Song

2393
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 2: You Dong. That's why I really like the crossroads nature

2394
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 2: of this matchup. It's like his record overall is really good,

2395
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 2: and we've known about him a long time as mister

2396
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Faber's boy coming from was he from China right, and yes,

2397
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: ultimately Luke when he has stepped up though we've seen

2398
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 2: the limitations to his rise. So I think he's got

2399
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: to really come out against the older fighter the name

2400
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: and take it to Sahudo. He's got to ramp up

2401
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: this pace. He's got to really force Suhudo to use

2402
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 2: everything he has in a fight that maybe he doesn't

2403
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 2: expect that he's going to have to to stay around

2404
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: this title picture. This is probably the most advantageous opponent

2405
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 2: of the elites for Sahudo because there's still holes. Ultimately

2406
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 2: in What Song You, Dong's been able to show us.

2407
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 2: But he's shown us that the materials are there. You

2408
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. We bought everything on the recipe list.

2409
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 2: He seems like he's getting closer to fish figuring out

2410
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 2: the right formula for himself, but he's not there yet.

2411
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 2: We need that statement performance where he comes out and

2412
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: he owns that cage in round one and takes control

2413
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: of this fight as a veteran. If he can't do that,

2414
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: there's an opening here for Sahudo. I love this fight.

2415
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 2: I know this card's been chopped up left and right.

2416
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 2: This main event is good is you can't miss it, Luke.

2417
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 2: I love this fight.

2418
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: I love this fight as well. To answer the question

2419
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,839
Speaker 1: on like what they have to do a little bit differently.

2420
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: Song Ya Dong does not by any means have bad

2421
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: takedown defense, but he doesn't have ironclad defense, at least

2422
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 1: not historically, although I think it's gotten a lot better,

2423
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,839
Speaker 1: and I do think generally speaking, he's got pretty good wrestling.

2424
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: But Henry s Hudo averages two takedowns per fifteen minutes.

2425
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: We see. He has to stop that or at a

2426
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 1: bare minimum, you know, eliminate control time, because if you

2427
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: let a guy who's older coast with top pressure for

2428
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: any amount of time to the course of a five

2429
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: round bout, you're just unnecessarily giving the fight away. When

2430
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: this is a thing that I think, you know, is

2431
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: it easy to stop? Henry Suhudo's take Down's probably not

2432
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 1: that inside trip. He's got one of the best if

2433
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: I think he's got the best inside trip in MMA,

2434
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: but you have there has to be some kind of

2435
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 1: answer for it. Also, he's a little bit hittable. I

2436
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: think that's really a thing that's kind of held him back,

2437
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: even in the Corey Sanhagan fight BC. Just the cut

2438
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: he absorbed on his forehead or whoever it was exactly,

2439
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was the forehead or the top

2440
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: of the head. Either way, it ended up being like

2441
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 1: a defining feature of why he lost that fight. Yeah,

2442
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 1: the defense needs to be there. On the Henry Shudo side,

2443
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 1: BC the cardio man the cardio Like, obviously, going against

2444
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: morob your cardio is not going to look the best.

2445
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 1: But even then, he was fading in the second round

2446
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: in that fight, much less the third. I think he

2447
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: really really has to clean that part up, because if

2448
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: you can maintain pressure, if you can maintain pace, even

2449
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 1: if the initial takedowns don't work, you can really wear

2450
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: on a guy that way. Then you can really get

2451
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: in his mind, and then he goes back to being

2452
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: able to get taken down, back to being a little

2453
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: bit more hittable. I think on either side that's kind

2454
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 1: of what I'm looking for.

2455
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 2: Dude, he's got to slow the aging process. Says, he's

2456
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 2: got to pull the glover to shera and make make

2457
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: make wrestling and top control his bread and butter. I

2458
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 2: mean it already kind of is. But obviously what made

2459
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 2: s Hudo great in his peak was his ability to

2460
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 2: mix the entire all the arts together and carry out

2461
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 2: a game plan and has great coaching in the corner

2462
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 2: with the Captain Eric elbera scene or just a fashion

2463
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean icon would be too strong of a word.

2464
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: A fashion daredevil, Luke. Is that fair?

2465
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: I would say a fashion Uh disaster?

2466
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 2: There it is, womp there it is sorry sorry about that, captain.

2467
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2468
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: But he dresses like a weirdo.

2469
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, like so Hudo had. Like it's got to

2470
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 2: be where he is dictating the terms of the fight,

2471
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 2: which means he's dictating the tempo and the pace, you

2472
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like he's got to be able

2473
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 2: to use his own gas tank, not as old weapon

2474
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 2: like Morob did to him, but as a control mechan

2475
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 2: like he's got. He's got to be the driver, Luke.

2476
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 2: And that's why I think Song You Dong has to

2477
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: come out and make an early statement and be physical

2478
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 2: and show that like I'm I'm you know, I'm willing

2479
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 2: to go deeper a five round fight, which could favor

2480
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 2: so Huta late. If there's an inexperienced gap that's visible,

2481
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 2: it also could be a problem for him. So I

2482
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 2: need Song you Dong to come out quick and establish

2483
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 2: who he is in this first round, Luke. But you know,

2484
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure Dana wants that too. That's what we all want,

2485
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 2: but Willie, let's find out.

2486
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about this. By the way, put up

2487
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: this picture if you can about Song You Dong. He

2488
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: shows this picture here when Henry Sehuda was competing for

2489
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: the gold medal at the two thousand and eight Beijing Games.

2490
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 1: Their Song You Dong obviously holding the pictures, but also

2491
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: the one on the right there in his left hand

2492
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 1: where he was selling souvenirs outside that very Olympic arena.

2493
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,760
Speaker 1: And here they find themselves. You see. Songa Dong is

2494
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 1: an interesting guy. He's sort of been one of these

2495
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: dudes who got to the UFC really early, probably much

2496
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: earlier than he should have. As I mentioned, they started

2497
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: their careers at the same time. He's been a work

2498
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 1: in progress. I've been waiting for him to turn that corner,

2499
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: and there's been several of these he has, but I've

2500
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: not seen the big one yet, the big horror.

2501
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 7: Like.

2502
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 2: There's been little peaks. There's been little two or three

2503
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 2: fight runs where you're like, Okay, he's maturing, he's put

2504
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,879
Speaker 2: it together. He's got coach mister Faber in the corner.

2505
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 2: But what's the one performance that you're like, oh my god,

2506
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 2: he looked like a badass and he owned that fight.

2507
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be this one if he's gonna

2508
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 2: be a true title contender, right, Like.

2509
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 1: There's that's exactly right.

2510
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 2: There is a fresh meat ele element to Sahudo. He's

2511
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 2: gonna be better than Song. He's gonna be more technical,

2512
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna be But is he gonna be the horse

2513
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 2: that can go the distance here? I mean, this is

2514
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 2: a five round fight. Do you think that's gonna be

2515
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 2: a negative for Song at all, that it's a five

2516
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 2: round fight? Or do you think he can use that

2517
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 2: to his advantage.

2518
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he can use it to his advantage in

2519
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 1: this case. I mean, Sahudo needs to make it not

2520
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 1: a liability, but I just don't think it'll be his advantage.

2521
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I really don't that that this is the job of Sahudo,

2522
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: you excuse me, the job of Song where he just

2523
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: really really really needs to be the one. I don't

2524
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 1: know if he has to put on like a critical pace,

2525
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 1: but he's got to make Suhuto have to work as

2526
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: hard as he possibly can given the way he fights,

2527
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 1: and that is gonna be the key I think to

2528
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: him getting a victory. By the way our friends at

2529
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 1: DraftKings have Sahudo had a plus two twenty Song at

2530
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 1: minus Song is the last name, not your Dong minus

2531
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: two seventy. By the way, Sahudo, as the betting underdog,

2532
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 1: had some thoughts about what that meant. Let's hear from him.

2533
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 15: I'm eleven years as elder. He's an explosive fighter, really

2534
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 15: good at countering. He's a guy that could shut your

2535
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 15: lights off with one with one punch. But I think

2536
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 15: the same reason why his greatest gift is also his

2537
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 15: worst enemy too. You know that that guess he could

2538
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 15: completely go straight to e So I love the fact

2539
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 15: that give me a younger fighter. I love the fact

2540
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 15: that my back is against the wall, there's a chip

2541
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 15: on my shore. I love the fact that I'm an

2542
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 15: underdog because these are the moments where I shine, and

2543
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 15: I appreciate.

2544
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 3: All of it.

2545
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's talking about Song of Dong's gas tech,

2546
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 1: which again I don't think is exemplary by any stretch.

2547
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: But I don't if it's worse than a thirty eight

2548
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: year old Henry Shudo. He's got much bigger problems than

2549
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,640
Speaker 1: just losing that fight potentially, right.

2550
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's there's a big. It's like we thought

2551
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 2: he might be graduating to Legends fights only at this point,

2552
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 2: but this is him getting back into the mix. It's probably,

2553
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 2: like I said, the best opportunity for him to do that,

2554
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 2: because your Dong still has some holes in his game

2555
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 2: or the or the level he's reached at this point

2556
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 2: in terms of his performances. But it's also a referendum

2557
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 2: on does Suhudo still belong with this group, And it

2558
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 2: was interesting in that same media day sit down, Sohuto

2559
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 2: said he was of the mindset that because he thought

2560
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 2: he was gonna be fighting Dominant Cruz on this card,

2561
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 2: that he was probably gonna just take a couple more

2562
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 2: against those legends. But he said it was I believe

2563
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 2: you said. It was Hunter Campbe and him who had

2564
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: conversations and arguments, and eventually he got talked into like,

2565
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 2: if you're still going to fight, you might as well

2566
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 2: be chasing the top, and they centered on song Ya

2567
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 2: Doong as the right opponent to test that. So so

2568
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 2: Hudo came around that he still looks at himself as

2569
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 2: that guy. But it is interesting that he revealed that

2570
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:19,280
Speaker 2: that he thought he was kind of done and you know,

2571
02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 2: all fight Domina Cruz again. Well, you know, we'll see

2572
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 2: who else is available. There's a lot of pressure on

2573
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 2: him to prove he still belongs in this conversation, in

2574
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 2: this deep, great division, Luke. I hope so, because it's fun.

2575
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 2: But he's also still throwing out the one twenty five idea.

2576
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 2: In fact, he said, like, if he gets a win here,

2577
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 2: it might open the door for him against Pantosia. Do

2578
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 2: you think he can make that way?

2579
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I also want you to react to something.

2580
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:47,919
Speaker 1: We've got a clip here from our friend Shaq MAJORI

2581
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 1: talking to Henry about like where Henry really is in

2582
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: this point in his career win or lose. Let's react

2583
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: to what he has to say.

2584
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 15: It's because of having a couple of losses, Like I'm

2585
02:03:57,320 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 15: not I'm not accustom to gold through that.

2586
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Is this fight really going to inform like where Henry's

2587
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: the judo is at and what his future holds.

2588
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 15: But you're right, I mean, obviously you're you know what

2589
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 15: I show Saturday is going to be an indication of

2590
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 15: where I'm at, you know, because it's not like I'm

2591
02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 15: just a wrestler either, i'mk notock. People go too every

2592
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 15: time I see my daughter, I scream.

2593
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 2: How mady?

2594
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that part is whatever. But you see, if he loses,

2595
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 1: does he retire?

2596
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes he does? Yes he does.

2597
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 1: Does that mean close?

2598
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 2: Okay? Does no? I don't know, Like do I If.

2599
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:36,160
Speaker 1: He gets if he gets if he gets like like flattened,

2600
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 1: I think he might retire. If he gets heeaks it out,

2601
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2602
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 2: Or if he gets handled four rounds to one, I

2603
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 2: think he retires. But I was gonna say, I think

2604
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 2: because he's such a competitor, and he's a personality, and

2605
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 2: he does love challenges and being in the spotlight. If

2606
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 2: another fight opened up to him, whether it was a

2607
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 2: one to twenty five title opportunity, if the UFC was

2608
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 2: into that, or a Legends fight or something, I think

2609
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 2: he would take it and come back. But yes, I

2610
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 2: think that would halt him trying to climb the ladder

2611
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 2: and be in line and be competitive. And I think

2612
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 2: what I've heard from him this week is if there's

2613
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, if there's not purpose behind what he's doing,

2614
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 2: he's not going to do it. So there's purpose in this.

2615
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 2: He wins this fight, he's back in the conversation, so

2616
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure on him. And I've always

2617
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 2: liked Henry's to hudo a lot Luke, even through the

2618
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 2: cringe years, for sure, and I really wish he didn't

2619
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 2: walk away at you know, when he was on top,

2620
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 2: whether he needed that or not. But I do wonder sometimes,

2621
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: because he won me over in the process, I thought

2622
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,959
Speaker 2: he wasn't as good as the achievements he was achieving,

2623
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 2: and then I finally caught up. I wonder what we

2624
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 2: missed in those three years? What do you think I mean,

2625
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 2: he really wanted to fight Volkanovsky for a three division

2626
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 2: championship offs.

2627
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 1: You could argue, you could argue that he actually had

2628
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 1: some really tough headwinds in front of him, and he

2629
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: actually saved himself some losses that were there. I don't

2630
02:05:57,280 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: think that's the craziest argument. We're talking about Bansamwaite. It's

2631
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: a very very very tough division, a very tough division,

2632
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 1: and so with that, I can understand the argument that, like, hey,

2633
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like Habib, if he kept going,

2634
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 1: he probably would have lost too, and so you don't

2635
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:14,440
Speaker 1: get those and so you just get a nice, cleaner thing.

2636
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: The problem for me was it also is true that

2637
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: he was at the peak of his powers, right like,

2638
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 1: however good he was gonna be, it was then and

2639
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 1: sitting out while you have a belt when that's your

2640
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 1: biggest opportunity to get money. I think that was a

2641
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 1: strategic error, you know, just given the lay of the land,

2642
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can really do.

2643
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:35,560
Speaker 4: B C.

2644
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 1: Also on this card, excuse me, give me just one

2645
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 1: second here, I got my notes all mixed up here.

2646
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 1: I apologize sorry. Also on this car.

2647
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 2: I would have been into Connor versus Shudo like three

2648
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 2: years ago. I just want to put that out on

2649
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 2: the record.

2650
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:53,120
Speaker 1: Or BC the fight beyond the main event that I

2651
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 1: really want and I'm very interested in. You're Brendan Allen

2652
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 1: versus Anthony Hernandez Comayne. I think it's the comaane. I

2653
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 1: absolutely love this contest. It's a rematch from their LFA days. BC,

2654
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the future of the like, there's

2655
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 1: a lot on the line here, not just rematch stakes,

2656
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: but like the guy who wins this is not only

2657
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: just going to ascend in the rankings. But I don't know,

2658
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: is something to me like this is I don't want

2659
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 1: to overstate the stakes, but let me just tell you

2660
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking it seems to me that if Brendan

2661
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 1: Allen wins, this is true, but if Fluffy Hernandez wins,

2662
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 1: this is especially true. He's going to be one of

2663
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 1: these fighters that is absolutely going to be a defining

2664
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:38,240
Speaker 1: feature of the middleweight division in the next three years.

2665
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 1: Is that too much of a take.

2666
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 2: No, he's marketable, and he's aggressive, and he's fun, and

2667
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 2: absolutely in the streak he's been on has been very impressive.

2668
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 2: He's been escalating properly, and the name value in this

2669
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:56,000
Speaker 2: fight certainly meets that. Because before Brendan Allen's last fight,

2670
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 2: with the loss that halted a real red hot fire

2671
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 2: momentum of you know, fight night main events in getting

2672
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 2: his own streak together, this is a great test in

2673
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 2: that regard. But I think as much as this is

2674
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 2: about can Fluffy take the next level to possible knocking

2675
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 2: on the door of you know, title contention and maybe

2676
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 2: not start him but a run here, a run of

2677
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 2: being someone that we take note of aggressively. Is this

2678
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 2: more of a referendum about Brendan Allen coming off of

2679
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 2: that defeat Luke, because it seems like MMA Twitter is

2680
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 2: like counting this dude out and hates him off of

2681
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 2: one loss, But was that an audit? Was that a

2682
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 2: thorough one in your eyes? To really bring up these

2683
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 2: question marks.

2684
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 1: Brendan Allen has a lot of ability, but at times

2685
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 1: just seems like he can't quite get over the hump

2686
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: Wherea and He got a little he got obviously a

2687
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of he his career got a lot of attention early.

2688
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 1: Hernandez doesn't seem to be exactly that guy. I think

2689
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 1: he's sort of quietly snuck up on everybody and has

2690
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden just started to look like really good,

2691
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 1: not the most skilled, although he's skillful, Please don't misunderstand me.

2692
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 1: He's skillful. But what he really has BC and this

2693
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 1: is why I kind of got my eye on him. Dude,

2694
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 1: He's got a cardio gas tank that is just unbelievable,

2695
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,800
Speaker 1: and he and he has a style like Morob. It's

2696
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,240
Speaker 1: not the same as Morob obviously, but the idea is

2697
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 1: these guys who've got great gas tank, it's not just

2698
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: that they I can use them. They're building their styles

2699
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 1: and their offense off of that awareness. And so it's

2700
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 1: becoming a cohesive whole where I'm gonna weaponize my cardio

2701
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: against you, specifically, with these individual tactics and these individual strategies,

2702
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 1: and it's looking like he's ready to start making some

2703
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 1: noise in this division. But Brendan Allen is a skillful

2704
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 1: competitor himself. He can match some of the strengths in

2705
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 1: if Levy Hernandez's games in the grappling, at least you

2706
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 1: would imagine early it's down that stretch, what's gonna happen

2707
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 1: when it's gut check time. If you're Brendan Allen and

2708
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 1: you're coming off that he Mavolv lost. Skinny mavol is

2709
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: very good, but he kind of faded, and now you're

2710
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 1: facing a guy who only ramps it up as the

2711
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: fight goes longer. That's a tough fight. So it'd be

2712
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: a great win for Berendon Allen and it'd be a

2713
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:17,160
Speaker 1: very proven point for Anthony Hernandez should he emerge victorious.

2714
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 2: I fully agree on that there are questions here that

2715
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 2: Allen's got to answer, especially if this fight goes late.

2716
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 2: Not the same style, but like, no shame in losing

2717
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 2: to im Evolv, but I don't know, I expected more

2718
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,080
Speaker 2: in that fight. Now he gets a rebuttal, he gets

2719
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 2: a chance great fight here, Luken. You know, shout out

2720
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 2: to mister van Zant too. I know it probably came

2721
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 2: rather than having to go through the Contender series or

2722
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 2: what have you, because of the location and the fact

2723
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 2: that these fights were just falling off this undercard like

2724
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 2: a pandemic here, Luke, or an epidemic or an EpiPen

2725
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 2: somewhere in there at all that shit. But I'm excited

2726
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 2: to see if mister throat tat can swim at this level.

2727
02:10:54,040 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 1: Right sure, yeah, I mean I don't have her. After

2728
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 1: he collapsed stick his gig guard Musasi and like less

2729
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 1: than a round. It was one of the worst picks

2730
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: I ever had in my life. Yes, I've lost a

2731
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 1: little bit of confidence, you know what I'm saying. So

2732
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 1: we shall see, We shall see. I want to say

2733
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 1: a couple of things if we can. Let's quickly bring

2734
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 1: in Loong Island, Luke through a cloud of long smoke,

2735
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke. I'm gonna guess that the Gene Silva

2736
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 1: Melsic Bagdasarian fight is high on your list. What else

2737
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 1: has captured your imagination?

2738
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 5: I mean, betting wise, that's not that high on my list.

2739
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 5: Because Jean Silva is like a minus five hundred favorite.

2740
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,600
Speaker 5: But Henry Suhudo I did jump on at plus two forty.

2741
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 5: I mean you mentioned songs been taken down in all

2742
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 5: three of his UFC losses. Henry, former Olympic champion wrestler,

2743
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 5: also just lost to Al Joe and Morob Really not

2744
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 5: bad losses whatsoever. Also on Rob Font as a dog

2745
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 5: this week again John Matsimoto. Again Matsimoto undefeated, but he's

2746
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 5: taking the fight on short notice. Rob Font did just

2747
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:53,880
Speaker 5: upset Kyler Phillips last time out, feel like he could

2748
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 5: do it again. And I'm fading mister Van's ant dude Verrettnikov.

2749
02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 5: He lost to Michael Morales on Contender Series and he

2750
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 5: lost to Danny Barlow by split decision in his UFC debut.

2751
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 5: Aren't bad losses whatsoever. I feel like Vanderford has not

2752
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 5: looked the same. Yeah, he just got a knock out

2753
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 5: an LFA, but what does that really mean?

2754
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:15,080
Speaker 2: Also, if you're adicting a Mutino like run through the UFC,

2755
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 2: for yes, yes, very much so, if.

2756
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 1: I may say very much, Flying under the radar, Javid

2757
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:24,400
Speaker 1: Basherot taken on Ricky Simone. Wow, that's a good fight.

2758
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 1: That is just very quietly been added to this car

2759
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:29,839
Speaker 1: and I can't believe it. Also, b C, your friend

2760
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:34,840
Speaker 1: and compatriot and countryman, Modestus Bukowskis is back against Hafayel

2761
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 1: Sarah Krria. I'm sure say that's.

2762
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 2: A fight, but it'll be fun. But Luke Ebo Aslan,

2763
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 2: that Turkish slugger, he didn't do bad things to Lava.

2764
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Aslan. I could be wrong about that.

2765
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,040
Speaker 2: I just call him as man around my friend.

2766
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:51,640
Speaker 4: Sorry, it was.

2767
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: The oh dick Rico is that? Remember he was?

2768
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that guy?

2769
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,720
Speaker 1: And then and then you said to al Jo's face

2770
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:00,800
Speaker 1: he was dicked down.

2771
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 2: That was a great moment in my broadcasting history. I

2772
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 2: gotta say that. But Luke, aren't you excited about this

2773
02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Turkish slugger? He was awesome last time, though.

2774
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 1: I think any life being introduced into light heavyweight is welcome.

2775
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he can be or will be,

2776
02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: or what we're gonna get, but if he ends up

2777
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 1: being halfway decent, God knows that division needs it. So

2778
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 1: let's see what he's got.

2779
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a show. We really we really banged him out.

2780
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 5: I just want to say quick, everyone is officially made weight.

2781
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 5: Besides Fluffy, Hernandez has not waited.

2782
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Ye, that's how much time does he have left? Forty five?

2783
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:33,760
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, forty five minutes?

2784
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, keep us updated now, b C with this

2785
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 1: in mind, Do you want to do dead wrongs or

2786
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 1: should I?

2787
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 2: I love doing it, all right, Luke, you know I'll

2788
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:45,320
Speaker 2: do it well. I did represent Queen's at one point

2789
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,240
Speaker 2: she was raised down in Brooklyn. Hey, sometimes we get

2790
02:13:48,240 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 2: it wrong, and then you email us at Morningcombat at

2791
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 2: gmail dot com and you put time stamps in there,

2792
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 2: and sometimes you try to dunk on us, and then

2793
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:57,360
Speaker 2: Luke gets all pissy and then.

2794
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:58,920
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I'll let you guys do it. It's

2795
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 1: just when they come at me with some bullshit I

2796
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:00,840
Speaker 1: don't want.

2797
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, well, and the show was some dead wrongs then wrong.

2798
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 2: All right, see if Dada shows up right now, we

2799
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 2: got Kishi on. He says, hello, Guy Kishion from Montreal, Canada.

2800
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 2: Here at an hour and thirty minutes the February tenth episode,

2801
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:25,240
Speaker 2: Luke says Mayweather versus Guerrero was a bullshit fight.

2802
02:14:25,520 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 1: Yes it was.

2803
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 2: Robert Guerrero was ranked number ten pound for pound at

2804
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:32,880
Speaker 2: the time by Ring magazine and number three at welterweight

2805
02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 2: behind Floyd and Juan Manuel Marquez. He was also the

2806
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 2: mandatory for the WBC title, which Floyd held at the time,

2807
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:42,960
Speaker 2: and he also included articles with the rankings and the

2808
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 2: mandatories there.

2809
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the reason why I called it a

2810
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 1: bullshit fight was because there were better ones to make

2811
02:14:49,120 --> 02:14:52,080
Speaker 1: at that time, and Mayweather was a at times a

2812
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 1: minus eight hundred favorite. Get the fuck out of here.

2813
02:14:55,200 --> 02:14:58,440
Speaker 1: No one on earth thought Guerrero had a fucking prayer.

2814
02:14:58,480 --> 02:15:00,720
Speaker 1: That's why it's a bullshit fight, So I want Well, it.

2815
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:03,480
Speaker 2: Didn't help that his performance was one of the worst,

2816
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,680
Speaker 2: you know that Floyd had to deal with across from

2817
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:07,360
Speaker 2: him in a big fight ever, And.

2818
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was a gigantic or not, I've

2819
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:10,080
Speaker 1: seen bigger.

2820
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 2: He earned it, He earned it, he'd beat burto in

2821
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 2: that absolute slugfest.

2822
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:15,920
Speaker 1: He did earn it in the sense that, like you

2823
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:20,080
Speaker 1: could justify it fine, But once it was booked, everyone

2824
02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: knew what the fucking score was. There was no mystery

2825
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:24,800
Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. And then he went in there and

2826
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 1: turned in an all time stinker. Sorry, it's a bullshit fight.

2827
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not even going to pretend.

2828
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 2: I think you were heavy handed in your description, but

2829
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:34,760
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.

2830
02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 1: Dude, there was nobody if if IF it is the

2831
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 1: entire lead up to a fight is just a function

2832
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:44,480
Speaker 1: of how the A side is gonna stunt on the

2833
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 1: other guy, and then that's exactly what happens in the fight.

2834
02:15:48,440 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 1: What are we supposed to call that? I mean, I

2835
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 1: can understand, I understand. I can understand Guerrero. I understand

2836
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,160
Speaker 1: that Guerrero there there is a claim that like he

2837
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,600
Speaker 1: didn't arrive in that position accidentally, but Mayweather picked him

2838
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:03,880
Speaker 1: because it was a bullshit opponent. I'm sorry, Get the

2839
02:16:03,880 --> 02:16:06,720
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. I lived through that whole cycle.

2840
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:09,720
Speaker 1: I remember it very distinctly and thinking it was one

2841
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 1: of the dumbest wastes of our time that that fight

2842
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,600
Speaker 1: took place. You're not gonna read. You're not gonna make

2843
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:18,360
Speaker 1: me change what I lived through in that experience. Get

2844
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here.

2845
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 2: I lean a little closer to Kishion, but it's not

2846
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:24,080
Speaker 2: his fault, Luke that he was born in the early nineties.

2847
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 2: As you said, many I understand that.

2848
02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that.

2849
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's go to Frederick he says, dead wrong for Luke

2850
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:33,720
Speaker 2: again with a government source. Luke. For someone data oriented,

2851
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 2: you tend to cherry pick what you seem to want

2852
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:39,440
Speaker 2: to look at. This took literally two minutes to find. Also,

2853
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,199
Speaker 2: what you read on Twitter is not an accurate representation

2854
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 2: of the world or distribution of opinions. He brought a

2855
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 2: what is this long isl look? He brought a webach.

2856
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 1: For each year, we showed the rank of liam and

2857
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:56,520
Speaker 1: a bar representing the popularity of that name. The longer

2858
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:58,640
Speaker 1: the bar, the more popular of the name. The more

2859
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:03,199
Speaker 1: popular of the name, and given year, the the numerically

2860
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:06,480
Speaker 1: lower the I can't read this shit. He's he's trying

2861
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 1: to say, there's a bunch of Liams, and listen, I

2862
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:10,720
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of fake news out there, and

2863
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be spreading it right at this moment,

2864
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 1: but it's not a real thing. Sorry.

2865
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:17,920
Speaker 5: According to this which I can barely read as well,

2866
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 5: it looks like it's ranked number one in the last

2867
02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 5: seven years or something.

2868
02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:24,720
Speaker 1: So look, they're saying a thing that's not true.

2869
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only are you wrong, they're saying you're dead wrong.

2870
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:29,000
Speaker 2: That's what they're That's what Frederick.

2871
02:17:29,320 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 1: They're allowed to say that. You've it's just bullshit. But okay,

2872
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll take earth.

2873
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 2: That flat earth debate between Rashad and Rampage and that

2874
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:41,039
Speaker 2: other guy on that Jackson podcast. Did you see that?

2875
02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:43,800
Speaker 1: I think that you know, have you heard about that

2876
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:47,720
Speaker 1: meteor that is like every time the NASA scientists update us,

2877
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:49,920
Speaker 1: it's like gone from like a one point four percent chance,

2878
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 1: like a two point two percent chance of it in

2879
02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:53,480
Speaker 1: the Earth, and now it's like a three point I

2880
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:55,879
Speaker 1: needed to be like a ninety nine percent chance. Please,

2881
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 1: that's what we really need.

2882
02:17:56,760 --> 02:17:59,440
Speaker 2: You have the same chance of your airplane colliding with

2883
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:00,400
Speaker 2: another right now.

2884
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:03,400
Speaker 1: Hey, turns out that might be pretty high. Turns out

2885
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 1: that might be pretty high.

2886
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 2: We also our final one is from Colin. He says,

2887
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:10,920
Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Luke in BC, and Luke, you're dead wrong

2888
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:15,960
Speaker 2: about Nasardine Imovov's age. Consentence for his age is twenty

2889
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,680
Speaker 2: nine because he was born in March of ninety five.

2890
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 2: I included this screen grab so Luke can't try to deflect,

2891
02:18:23,080 --> 02:18:24,800
Speaker 2: deny or defenders.

2892
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:26,960
Speaker 1: Guys. I have said this before, I'll say it again.

2893
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:29,640
Speaker 1: I use tapologies records, which I think are the best

2894
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:33,400
Speaker 1: records in the entire sport. I do acknowledge there are

2895
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:38,000
Speaker 1: competing numbers between where you might look. But my standard

2896
02:18:38,040 --> 02:18:41,240
Speaker 1: of excellence, because I've literally never been done wrong by them,

2897
02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:44,080
Speaker 1: is Tapology. They've got him at twenty eight. The backside

2898
02:18:44,120 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 1: of my balls are available for licking. Let me know

2899
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 1: when you want to que up.

2900
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, look Uno for three on these dead wrongs.

2901
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:55,200
Speaker 5: Although they want to say, I want to say, in

2902
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 5: this gentleman's defense, that tapology is the only website that

2903
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 5: has twenty eight.

2904
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:04,240
Speaker 1: Every other coincidentally the one coincidentally the best.

2905
02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:06,600
Speaker 4: One, all right, every other source though, has twenty nine.

2906
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 5: I mean he used wiki as his source here, which

2907
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 5: is obviously a pretty terrible source.

2908
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:12,840
Speaker 4: But like sure Dog has it, ESPN has it.

2909
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 1: Let me just say, like you have to pick what

2910
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,040
Speaker 1: your standard of excellence is. And it could be the

2911
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 1: case of Typology is wrong. I mean obviously right, it

2912
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but they're the I started using them

2913
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:26,840
Speaker 1: a few years ago. Their record keeping is by far

2914
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 1: the best in the sport. Not perfect. They could be wrong,

2915
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,280
Speaker 1: but it's where I go and until someone can show

2916
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 1: me that they're wrong, not simply by showing me just

2917
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:37,440
Speaker 1: another database, you have to explain to me why topology

2918
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:39,720
Speaker 1: is wrong, then I'll be wrong. But until then, no.

2919
02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 5: I think we just got to get Nasardine on the

2920
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:43,640
Speaker 5: show and ask him straight up and ask.

2921
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 2: On the show so we can ask him yes, and

2922
02:19:47,800 --> 02:19:54,040
Speaker 2: also so we can debate Riod versus three twelve all

2923
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:58,400
Speaker 2: over again or whatever it was. Yeah, there it is. Hey,

2924
02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:01,000
Speaker 2: that's all we got for that. Shiit Morning Coombat at

2925
02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:04,360
Speaker 2: gmail dot com is the email address. Mikey told us

2926
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:09,160
Speaker 2: there wasn't good fans sub there's only one, so the

2927
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:10,959
Speaker 2: the email is open. If you want to send in

2928
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 2: a fan sub for next Friday, it's on you. Thank

2929
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:17,440
Speaker 2: you very much for playing. And also, this great episode

2930
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:19,520
Speaker 2: of Morning Combat was brought to you by DraftKings. Luke,

2931
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:21,480
Speaker 2: did you know that? Did you know that the crown

2932
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 2: is yours?

2933
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:26,240
Speaker 1: I certainly did the DraftKings. Excuse me, as you mentioned,

2934
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,119
Speaker 1: today's episode is in fact brought to you by DraftKings.

2935
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,560
Speaker 1: The crown is yours and we appreciate them taking such

2936
02:20:32,600 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 1: good care of us. Go use their services if you

2937
02:20:36,480 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 1: so choose to have fun with the fights tomorrow, including

2938
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:43,600
Speaker 1: both the boxing and MMABC. Are you gonna watch all

2939
02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:44,640
Speaker 1: of them? How's this gonna go.

2940
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna watch them all from this recliner, this

2941
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:50,279
Speaker 2: mankliner that I have in the basement with the TV.

2942
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great, dude, It's oh yeah, it's gonna

2943
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:53,760
Speaker 2: be a great day.

2944
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:56,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting day. I'm gonna I told

2945
02:20:56,440 --> 02:20:58,600
Speaker 1: my wife, you know, I'll take care of tukes in

2946
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,039
Speaker 1: the morning, all the way until about one and then

2947
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:02,039
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna.

2948
02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be me, Reggie and Turkey all day.

2949
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Is gonna be great?

2950
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:09,680
Speaker 1: How many times is Turkey gonna do this?

2951
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you think that like after hours Turkey like

2952
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:15,640
Speaker 2: passes the jade of the fighters?

2953
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:16,039
Speaker 1: Or is that?

2954
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:17,080
Speaker 2: Is that impossible?

2955
02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:17,320
Speaker 4: No?

2956
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:19,800
Speaker 1: I did read about this because you know, obviously Saudi

2957
02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:22,959
Speaker 1: Arabi is like a dry country, but not totally there.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there are some laws in the books and in

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Speaker 1: fact they've created it was either a bar or like

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Speaker 1: a place to buy liquor for a select group of diplomats. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so I'm guessing that there are some people tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: riodd who are gonna be enjoying some uh some whiskey,

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Speaker 1: let's say, yes, And then maybe maybe in Connecticut too

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Speaker 1: with some delta eights. Someone yesterday in my chat BC

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Speaker 1: was like, what's the best gas station food that BC's

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Speaker 1: ever introduced you to? And I was like, Delta eight's,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, no question, but far like hot dogs. No,

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Speaker 1: hot dogs don't get you hot Dey'll.

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Speaker 2: Get Yeah, yeah that's what I hear, Luke. But you

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Speaker 2: know there it is, Well there it is, all right.

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Speaker 1: One more time. Throw up our socials on the screen

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Speaker 1: here there you see it. You can follow them one

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Speaker 1: in combat everywhere. Don't forget. I'm sure BC you'll have

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Speaker 1: some coverage tomorrow on your personal channel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely late night, but yeah, it'll be.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell experience. And then I'll join me in Othello

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Speaker 1: recently laid off Othello. We'll be doing a live stream

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Speaker 1: together for all of the boxing. Okay, well now look

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Speaker 1: you guys, thin going on tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be live for the UFC Seattle card. So

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Speaker 5: after they watch.

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Speaker 4: Nine pm for the main card for the main okay,

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Speaker 4: so they.

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Speaker 5: Can watch you with the boxing, they can watch BC

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Speaker 5: and rape question marks reaction to the boxing, and then

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Speaker 5: they can watch.

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Speaker 4: Me on the watch long.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Now you should catch me outside. How about in your

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Speaker 2: comment section on the main Card Minute Pod. I love

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Speaker 2: joining those donks in there, you know, yeah I will.

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Speaker 1: I will not be joining those. I love you, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Dave sy Dean. Look you ever hear

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Speaker 2: of that MK list?

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Speaker 3: Yeah he.

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Speaker 2: He would have jumped on Osborne to train in a heartbeat, dude,

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Speaker 2: in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: Many of them did, many of them did. All right,

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Speaker 1: We're out of here. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching MK today in studio on Monday.

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02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:21,880
Speaker 1: We love you, we appreciate you. Enjoy the fights this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you on Monday. Until next time, May all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal