1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast d AM 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: let's start with Strange Things with Joshua P. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Warren. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: Welcome to the iHeartRadio Coast to Coast a M Paranormal 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: podcast Network and Strange Things. The Wizard of Weird is 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: out conducting peculiar experiments this week, but he's unlocked his 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: vault to share this perfectly preserved specimen of strangeness. 18 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird. 19 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: This is Strange Things Women's. 20 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: Joshua Warren, I am Joshua B. Warren and each week 21 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: on this show, I'll be bringing you Brandon new mind 22 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: blowing content, news exercises, and weird you can do at home, 23 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: and a lot more. On this special edition of the show, 24 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: I have a new haunted. 25 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Doll and his name is Kennedy. 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: I have been wanting to tell you about this for 27 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: a long time. I've been saving it up, and that's 28 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: why I think in part this is a special show. 29 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: Kennedy was given to me by a great friend, and 30 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: soon that friend is going to come on this podcast 31 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 4: as a surprise guest and tell you the story behind 32 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: this most intriguing doll. But first, I am recording this 33 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: in October, and it is now a tradition for me 34 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: every October to tell you this tale, to set the tone, 35 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: to create the mood, to tell you the story of 36 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: Stingy Jack. Several centuries ago, amongst the green countryside and 37 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, there lived a drunkard 38 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: known as Stingy Jack. Jack was known throughout the land 39 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: as a deceiver, a manipulator, and a dredge on his community. 40 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: On a fateful hallowy night typical of Jack, he was 41 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: drunk and wandering through the countryside in the moonlight, when 42 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: he stumbled upon a shadowy body lying in his path, 43 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: and to his surprise, the body, with an eerie grimace 44 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: on his pale face, rose suddenly, and the figure said 45 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: to stingy Jack, I am the Devil, and I have 46 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: finally come for you. You knew this day would come. What 47 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: do you want with me, exclaimed Jack? I'm here to 48 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: take your soul down to hell, said the horrible, grinning figure. Well, 49 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: Jack seemed to accept his fate, but he said to 50 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: the devil, then, please, please at least give me one 51 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: last strink of l before I go. Well, the devil, 52 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: always up for a good time, said well, yes, fine, 53 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: then let's go to the pub for your last le. Well, 54 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: the two had a good old time, drinking up a 55 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 4: storm for hours. Finally the tab came to but Jack 56 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: did not have a penny to his name, so he 57 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: said to the devil, well, you're a great and powerful magician. 58 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: Let's see if you can turn yourself into a silver 59 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: coin we can give this barkeep. Well, the devil was 60 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: happy to show off and oblige, and he transfer formed 61 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed the coin 62 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: into his pocket where Jack always kept a crucifix, and 63 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: this trapped al satan. You see, his power was gone 64 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: next to a crucifix, And the devil begged Jack to 65 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: let him go free. But Jack said, I know my 66 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you grant 67 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: me ten more years, just ten more years on this earth. 68 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: The devil had no choice but to agree. Well, you 69 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways, but 70 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: he did not. Some say he got even worse. But 71 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later, old 72 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again his 73 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 4: old friend, the devil, appeared, next stood a dark tree. 74 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: It's been ten years, growled the devil. Now it's time 75 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 4: to go Jack. And Jack bowed his head and said, 76 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: all right, all right, I know it's time, but at 77 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: least give me one last morsel of food from this 78 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: good green earth before I have to go. And the 79 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: devil was actually kind of fond of Jack, and he said, 80 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: oh fine, I'll give you one last morsel of food 81 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 4: since you won't be getting it anymore forever. They were 82 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: next to an apple tree and Jack said, I can't 83 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: reach them apples, up there, But you're a great and 84 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: powerful spirit. Can you please run up that tree and 85 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: take me down an apple to feed this hungry belly? 86 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: And once again the devil agreed to this request. But 87 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: as the devil limbed up the gnarled branches of the tree, clever, old, 88 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: stingy Jack reached in his pockets and quickly surrounded the 89 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: base of the tree with a ring of crucifixes. Satan 90 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: was mad as hell that he had been entrapped again 91 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: and demanded his release, and as before, Jack made a 92 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: demand that his soul never be taken by Satan into hades. 93 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: Satan had no choice but to agree, and so the 94 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: devil was set free. Well, the years passed by, time 95 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took its toll on 96 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: Jack and he died in pain. Jack found himself at 97 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: the gate of Saint Peter in heaven, but he was stopped. 98 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: Saint Peter said, Jack, because of your drinking and sinful 99 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 4: life of deceit, you shall never be allowed in heaven. 100 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: So Jack was immediately spirited down to Hell. But there 101 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: he saw his old drinking buddy, the devil, once again, 102 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: and Satan said, I have to fulfill my promise, Jack, 103 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: you shall never be admitted here. And so Jack was 104 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: not admitted to heaven or hell. And the devil, with 105 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a fiery ember into an old, 106 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: hollowed out turnip and gave it to Jack. And the 107 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: devil said, you shall miserably wander the earth forever, never 108 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: at rest, always weary with this lantern, as a warning 109 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: to all those fools who think they can somehow outsmart 110 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: God and the Devil. And to this day, on some dark, 111 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: clear nights, especially around Halloween, you'll catch a glimpse of 112 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: old stingy Jack with his lantern, drifting about the hills 113 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: and glens. All he wants now is a rest that 114 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 4: shall never come. He is doomed to this fate for 115 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: all time. Those who see this apparition shudder and rush 116 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: their children inside. He's old stingy Jack with his lantern, 117 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: or as we call him, Jack of the Lantern or 118 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends, is the story 119 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: of the Jack a Lantern. 120 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: Ah. 121 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know why exactly I love that tale 122 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: so much. I guess because that for me, it seems 123 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: to capture that spirit of the origin of. 124 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Halloween, back of the old world. 125 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: But now that that piece of nostalgia is out of 126 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: the way, we will begin prepping for the main event 127 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: of this show. That is because I am very particular 128 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: these days about accepting physical packages from anybody. But I 129 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: have known this guy for a long time. He's been 130 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: a really good friend, and he has been telling me 131 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: for a long time he was going to send me 132 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 4: this package. And just recently, I mean weeks ago, this 133 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: large box arrived at my house and when I opened it, 134 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 4: there was one of the most impressive of ventriloquist dolls 135 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: that I have ever seen. And you may or may 136 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: not know this, but technically, I guess professionally they're called 137 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: ventriloical figures, and this was an extremely well made doll figure. 138 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's good to call him a dummy, 139 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: and I mean, the craftsmanship was amazing. I think that 140 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: a professional made this particular doll painstakingly, almost like Geppetto 141 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: making Pinocchio. And the origin of this doll is it's 142 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: still sort of up in the air. His name is Kennedy. 143 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: Now why is that? Well, I'm going to ask that 144 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: question in a moment, because when we come back from 145 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: the break, my special guest, the man who sent this 146 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: doll to me, is going to tell us all in 147 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: his own words about how he obtained this and why 148 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: that this doll is haunted. And then I'm going to 149 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: tell you what I have been doing to study this 150 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: doll since the doll has been in my possession. And 151 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: as if that weren't enough, after we talk about all that, 152 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: then I just last night went on a paranormal investigation 153 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: at one of the most haunted properties at all of 154 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I'm going to tell you the story about 155 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: that place as well. Oh my goodness, I guess you 156 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: should know by now that if you want to really 157 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: get the latest, greatest, breaking fresh news, you have to 158 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: go sign up for my free E newsletter. Go to 159 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: Joshua Pwarren dot com and sign up for the E 160 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: newsletter right there on the homepage. 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Warren dot com. 170 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: I am Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to 171 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast. I 172 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. 173 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 174 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, 175 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your 176 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 177 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 178 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: Giato Zoo May. And if you have any experience doing 179 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: paranormal investigation, you probably know that one of the biggest 180 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: challenges you face is this phenomenon of genuine paranormal activity 181 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: causing your equipment to malfunction. And that is a big, 182 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: big problem when you're trying to document something, especially something rare. 183 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,119 Speaker 4: So I'm talking about your camera stops working, your microphone 184 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: stops working, your batteries. Fell I mean, it's just a 185 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: well known phenomenon. And people who are you know, debunkers 186 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: and cynics, they say, oh, isn't that convenient. Well, I 187 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: know it seems that way, but I mean that also 188 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: is very much a part of you know, what happens 189 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: when these these bizarre energies are manifesting in the environment. Well, therefore, 190 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: it should not be a surprise that technical problems have 191 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: been a hallmark of this particular edition of the podcast, 192 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: and which is very clearly apparent because the man that 193 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: I'm interviewing here momentarily for this show is my friend, 194 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: the legendary mister Tom dan Heiser, producer of Coast to 195 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: Coast AM also producer of this show Strange Things. And 196 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: Tom dan Heiser has worked in broadcasting for many decades 197 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: and he's he's been, you know, on every end of 198 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: the technology. And I've been working in broadcasting for decades. 199 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: You'd think that if the two of us decided to 200 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: call each other and have a simple conversation, it should 201 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: be like thoughtless and simple and it should sound like 202 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: a million bucks. Oh well, for the first time since 203 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I've ever been interviewing people, I faced this well, almost 204 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: an insurmountable problem. I got Tom onto my sophisticated professional 205 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: recording outfit and I said, hey Tom, and he says, Josh, 206 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: Hey Tom, Josh. 207 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on here? You know? 208 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: So I've never had an issue before? So I hung 209 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: up everything, rebooted it. We could not connect to talk 210 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: about Kennedy the doll. And we must have tried, you know, 211 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, six or seven times, and it just 212 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: wasn't going to work. And so I was getting desperate 213 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: because and now I know, I was also feeling embarrassed, 214 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: like I can't believe, you know, I'm talking to the 215 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: producer of the show here and I can't get this 216 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: equipment to work. For the first time ever. I still 217 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: can't explain what happened. It's working fine now. I tested 218 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: it afterward. So the interview that you're about to hear 219 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: is going to sound a little bit weird because here's 220 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: what I had to do to make this happen. I 221 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: had to get him on my cell phone, put him 222 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: on speaker phone, and then turn on a handheld audio 223 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: recorder right there between the phone and my face and 224 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: record us talking to each other that way, and thankfully 225 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: it doesn't really sound bad and still turn it out fine. 226 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 4: You can hear what we're saying. It just sounds weird. 227 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: But I want you to know that and keep that 228 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: in mind as you listen to what we're talking about, 229 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: because we will address at some point how that once 230 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: Kennedy gets around, this kind of thing begins to happen. 231 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: So here we go. Let's dig into my conversation with 232 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: Tom dan Heiser. Producer, Tom dan Heiser, you and I 233 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 4: have known each other a long time, many years, and 234 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: you called me one day and said, Joshua, we are 235 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: starting up a coast to coast am paranormal podcast network 236 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 4: and I want you to be a part of it. 237 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: And I think that was bllived or not over three 238 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: years ago, and I want to thank you right off 239 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: the bat. I just want to thank you publicly for 240 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: inviting me. 241 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: To be a part of the network. 242 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 6: Well, josh you know, I want to tell you you're 243 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 6: absolutely right. That was about three years ago. Every bit 244 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 6: of that story is true, and you know your show 245 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 6: has turned out to be a really great show. I 246 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 6: made a great decision, if I do say so myself, 247 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 6: and we're very happy that you are a part of 248 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 6: the network, and I mean that. 249 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: So before we get into the big topic here, I 250 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: just want to ask you, what do you think is 251 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: the most important key to all of the success that 252 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: Coast Coast AM has had over all these decades. 253 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 6: That is one great question. I think one of the 254 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 6: keys is discernment. And I think that when it comes 255 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 6: to the strange, the ma cop even things that are 256 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 6: just scientific, I think people are too quick to jump 257 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 6: to go, yeah, that's it, that's it without thinking things through. 258 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 6: Like I noticed I noticed on your show, when like 259 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 6: you'll do experiments and you'll do you know, different things, 260 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 6: I can tell that you think things through before you 261 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: actually proceed to do them, and I think that's very important. 262 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: You know, somebody comes to you and just says, you know, 263 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: I'm just using an example, but they say, I'm a warlock, 264 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 6: you know I can sound your magic. Well yeah, okay, fine, 265 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 6: but you know think things through, can you? So that 266 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 6: kind of a lesser example of what I'm trying to say. 267 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 6: But I just, like I said, thinking things through I think. 268 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Is a key. 269 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: Well, we love breaking news in the Coast to Coast 270 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: AM realm, and you are always full of surprises and 271 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 4: recently you contacted me and said that you had a 272 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 4: special gift to send me, So please tell us that story. 273 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say about four or five 274 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: years ago, one of the listeners of Coast to Coast 275 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: AM sent a big package to us, and in the 276 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 6: package was a doll, a v triloquist type doll. His 277 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 6: name was Kennedy, and they just simply said, could you 278 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: watch out for him? And so, you know, we kept 279 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 6: this thing around. George and I just kept it around 280 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 6: in each other's offices forever. And I'm going to fast 281 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: forward to about a year ago. They had us move 282 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: offices in our studios, so everything was a ray because 283 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 6: they're like four or five, six seven people moving everything. 284 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 6: And somehow the letter from the listener got separated from 285 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 6: where I had Kennedy in a drawer. So you know, 286 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: time went on and I just I kept Kennedy in 287 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 6: my new studio, in my new office, and you know, 288 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 6: weird stuff started happening, not to me, but to friends 289 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 6: that would come up to my office. And somebody just 290 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 6: asked me, look, why don't you just you know, time 291 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 6: to get rid of Kennedy And to lack of a 292 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 6: better word. 293 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 5: I don't like the word get rid of. 294 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: And I thought to myself, you know what, who better 295 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: might enjoy him than the Wizard of Weird? So I 296 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 6: contacted you and sure enough he said, yeah, I'd love 297 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: to have him. And that's our story. And now you 298 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 6: own Kennedy. 299 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: So so what are the what are some of the 300 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: weird things that happened? 301 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you they weren't weird. Things were like, 302 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 6: oh no, they were Let me back up. At first, 303 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: it was just that people would look at him, and 304 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 6: my friends would say, he's creepy. 305 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: Don't don't show him to me. 306 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 6: He's got you know, I'm sure you're going to post 307 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 6: him at some point on your website, but you know, 308 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 6: he's got this ventriloquist like face. And they just thought 309 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: he was really, really creepy. 310 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: And that just went on for a while. 311 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 6: You know, a couple of friends would say here and there, 312 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: it's really creepy. And then one night, and you know, 313 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 6: I struggle with this because I can't explain this, but 314 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 6: when when my girlfriend asked me to get rid of him, 315 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: maybe like a week later, we were sleeping and I 316 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 6: woke up to this loud would crash in my kitchen 317 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 6: and this porcelain candy dish I'd fallen from the counter. Now, 318 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 6: that seems pretty normal to me, a dish falling from 319 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 6: the top of a shelf. But the thing I struggle 320 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: with is the sound that I woke up to. In 321 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 6: no way was just a dish falling, Like someone literally 322 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: would have had to slam. 323 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 5: This on the ground. 324 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 6: And you know, I think to myself all the time, 325 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 6: I am I kind of just overthinking this or whatever, 326 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 6: but I'm not and I can't explain it. So that's 327 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: the first thing that happened. Then she started noticing like 328 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: shadow people going up my stairs, and I'm like, come on, 329 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: come on. So I think in fact, Josh, she said 330 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: that to you and you analyzed it. 331 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: Didn't you. 332 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 6: Oh? 333 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I can't explain what that shadow was. 334 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, And then listen, Josh, I don't know if this 335 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 6: relates to Kennedy or not. All I'm saying is it 336 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 6: kind of started happening after I was asked to send 337 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 6: him away, and so had I had my assistant. She 338 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 6: was dog sitting for me. One time I was gone, 339 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 6: and she called me about twelve thirty at night, because 340 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 6: why was she calling me and Josh. I got to 341 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 6: tell you there was serious terror in this woman's voice, 342 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 6: and she said that she grabbed my dog and ran 343 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: out of the house because she heard quote somebody dribbling 344 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: a bowling ball upstairs unquote. Now I find that fantastic, 345 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 6: but I also you know, I'm not going to question 346 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 6: someone else. 347 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 5: Who says they heard this. 348 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 6: And if I could somehow, if I could somehow play 349 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 6: the terror in her voice, I mean, she really was scared. 350 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: I haven't heard any of this, so you know, as 351 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 6: far as I'm concerned, I don't have a haunted house 352 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 6: or anything like that. But these are some of the 353 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 6: things that happened ever since I was asked send Kennedy 354 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 6: to you. 355 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: Do you have any idea as to why he's named Kennedy. 356 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I don't. 357 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: I've been looking all over for that letter, but I 358 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 6: just I had it with him in a drawer. 359 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 5: But like I said, things got. 360 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 6: Drawn all over the place when they moved stuff, and 361 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 6: so I just don't know why his name was Kennedy. 362 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: Okay, time for a break. When we come back, we'll 363 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: talk more about the strange activity around the Kennedy and 364 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: I also want to describe him to you in as 365 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 4: much detail as I can to tell you it was 366 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: sort of what it feels like to be around him, 367 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: and also tell you how that you can go and 368 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: see a picture of him. I'm Joshua P. 369 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: Warren. 370 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 371 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will 372 00:25:51,680 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange 373 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I AM 374 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. 375 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Warren. 376 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: N this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 377 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: And now back to my conversation with producer Tom dan Heiser. Again, 378 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: we had to do this on a speakerphone setting because 379 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: we had so many technical problems. Maybe it's because we're 380 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: talking about the uist member of my family, Kennedy, the 381 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: haunted doll, and you just kept him in a box 382 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: pretty much the whole time you had him right. 383 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 5: Well, No, what happened was we got him, we got 384 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: him out of the box. 385 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: He sat in George's office for a while and George's like, 386 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: you read to take that thing. I don't want to 387 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: keep looking at it. So I took him in my office. 388 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 6: I sat him there for a while, and then it 389 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 6: came time to where we had to really start packing 390 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 6: up our things to move, so I stuck him in 391 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: a cabinet drawer. I lay him carefully in a cabinet 392 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 6: drawer and shut the drawer, and he stayed there for 393 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 6: a couple months. 394 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: Well, as we speak, Kennedy is isolated in a room 395 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: in my lab with a camera on him twenty four 396 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: to seven and some instruments there also on camera to 397 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: measure any kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic activity associated with 398 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 4: movements and live so you know, we'll see what we 399 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: can document. But do you think it's uh, it's possible, Tom, 400 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: that Kennedy might become just as interesting as say, like 401 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 4: Robert the Doll. 402 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: I do I think it's possible. There's one thing that 403 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 6: confuses me. Every friend. When I say every friend, I 404 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 6: want to say like two or three people I've looked 405 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 6: at him and said he's really creepy, but I've never 406 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I recognize that he's kind of you know, 407 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 6: strange look and he's a doll, but I never really 408 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 6: felt you know, threatened or creeped out or anything and 409 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: then when I sent him to you, you and Lauren, 410 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 6: I believe felt fine, Like there's nothing weird about him. 411 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 6: So I don't know if it's the people or what. 412 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 6: I certainly think it's possible he could be like Roberts 413 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 6: the Doll, but I will tell you it is that nothing. Well, 414 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 6: besides the weird things I told you, nothing really happened 415 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 6: when you got him, and then all of a sudden 416 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 6: tonight when you asked me if we could talk about him, 417 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: we had some trouble. 418 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the first time ever. 419 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: I mean, like I in the past three years that 420 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: I've been doing strange things, I have never had an 421 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: issue with trying to record an interview, and this is 422 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: the first time that's ever happened. 423 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know how to 424 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 6: explain it, Like I don't know how to explain the 425 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 6: Canty diish and my girlfriend can tell you that she did. 426 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: Not get a good vibe from him and Josh. 427 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 6: I wish I could explain and explain to everybody how 428 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 6: I feel, because you know this sound I woke up to, 429 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: and like I said, I'm really discerned. I kind of 430 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 6: try to take things apart and see what I should 431 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: believe in what I should, but there was no way 432 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 6: that this is falling from a shelf of maybe two 433 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 6: feet made the noise that was the noise that I 434 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 6: woke up to. 435 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 5: There's just no way. 436 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's one of the things that has 437 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: always impressed me about you is that you are an 438 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: incredibly logical, practical person. I mean, you hear the craziest 439 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: stories all the time, and yet at the same time, 440 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: you know, you're basically, you know, a businessman, and then 441 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: you're looking at logical explanations and cause and effect and 442 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: all that. So it means a lot that you know, 443 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: you think there's something odd about this doll, But in general, 444 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: I guess do you feel that there is some kind 445 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: of a possible spirit in this thing? 446 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: Yes, I would certainly believe that, But I would also 447 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 6: believe that the spirit only seems to come out to 448 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: certain people at a certain times. 449 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 5: And I don't you know. 450 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: I love the weird, I love the wacky. I love 451 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: everything this earth has to offer, but the things that 452 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 6: I can't explain. 453 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 5: Drive me crazy. 454 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 6: And you know, I don't know this this bowling ball 455 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 6: sound that I that my assistant heard upstairs around the 456 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: time when I was asked to send Kennedy to you. 457 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 6: My girlfriend also Hearry. One night when I listen here, 458 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything. So then I start thinking, well, 459 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: you know, is it just women that hear this? But 460 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 6: you know, I just don't know, and it drives me crazy. 461 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 6: I just I can't figure it out. But I will 462 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 6: tell you that candyish thing is probably one of the 463 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 6: most bizarre things in a long time that has happened 464 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 6: that ponders me. 465 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 4: Well, Tom, October is my birthday month, and You've just 466 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: given me a great gift, and I'm pretty sure it 467 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: will be the. 468 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: Gift that keeps on giving to all of us. 469 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: So this is exciting, and yeah, you know, well just 470 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to keep studying it and updating everybody. 471 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: But thank you, Tom. I appreciate it. 472 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 5: No, not at all. And I do want to leave 473 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: you with one of the things. 474 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 6: You know, there's things that are I believe things that 475 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: are evil will show you right away. And the fact 476 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 6: that you've had Kennedy for a while and everything's good, fine, 477 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 6: with the exception of maybe our little recording tonight. 478 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: I don't think he's. 479 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: Evil, at least not with you and Lauren I don't 480 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 6: think he was with me, but I don't think that 481 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 6: he liked other people telling me, you know, you need 482 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 6: to get rid of him. 483 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: He's creepy. 484 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. 485 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: I mean, like it seems like that there are some 486 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: bizarre technical things. As a matter of fact, he's the 487 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: camera that I have. 488 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: On him right now has been malfunctioning. 489 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: And then that's ever happened before, So I guess that's just, 490 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: you know, part of the problem when it comes to 491 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: trying to document the paranormal. I mean, you know, kind 492 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: of interferes with with with the process. 493 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: But well, we're going to keep everybody updated. Yeah. Yeah, 494 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: it's weird. 495 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 6: It's weird because you know, this stuff is not you know, 496 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 6: brain surgery. You get a record button yet Yeah, sure 497 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 6: things are working. 498 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 5: It's fun. 499 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 6: And when you could, you must have called me seven 500 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 6: times tonight, yeah, to get. 501 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: A proper connection. And I just kept thinking, oh my god, 502 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: what is this. 503 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 4: I've never had that problem once. I mean I at 504 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 4: first I was like, is Tom missing with me? I've 505 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: never had that issue at all, So, yeah, there's something 506 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 4: happening here. So I think it's going to be really 507 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: interesting to keep everybody updated on what kind of mysterious 508 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: phenomena occurs around Kennedy and Josh. 509 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 5: I think that you, I and Lauren are in as 510 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: good graces. 511 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: I will, I sure hope. 512 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: So allright, well very cool, Well, well thank you Tom, 513 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 514 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 5: My friend Josh, thanks for having me on strange things. Now. 515 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: I know you all are dying to hear more about 516 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: how Kennedy looks. And by the way, the night that 517 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: I received him and Lauren and I took him out 518 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: of the box, we put him in a chair and 519 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: took a picture of him, and I sent it to 520 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 4: my mom and my mom texted back that thing is creepy. 521 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: I would get rid of that demonic looking thing. So 522 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 4: that's the reaction that my mom had. But I, Lauren 523 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: and I we definitely we were getting a good vibe 524 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: off him. But here we go. So Kennedy is. He 525 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: looks to be like a standard size Ventriloquist doll, except 526 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 4: he has a very thick torso. His skin is sort 527 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 4: of light pink. He has cold black hair. He has 528 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: these eyes that look kind of mischievous. He has a 529 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: couple of kind of sharp black eyebrows, and his eyes 530 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 4: his eyes are just a little bit squinty, and he's 531 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 4: got these kind of odd eyelashes drawn around his eyes, 532 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: but his eyes look incredibly realistic. When you look right 533 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: into his eyes, they're kind of penetrating, and he's got 534 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: this he's got red lips and this big wide grin 535 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: on his face, with these slightly rosy cheeks. He's wearing 536 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: a little plaid vest with a burgundy tie. He's got 537 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 4: some dark trousers on. We actually bought him some nice 538 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: new little shoes he's wearing. But he's wearing a white shirt, 539 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: you know, So he looks he looks like a very 540 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: well dressed little man. And the thing is he also 541 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: has kind of like this smirk on his face. And 542 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 4: you know how that usually these types of dolls are 543 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: used in an act to be like a little smarty pants, 544 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 4: so it's not unusual for the doll to have a 545 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: sarcastic look. But he looks realistic enough that when we 546 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: first got him and we had him sitting in the chair, 547 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: every time I would walk into the room and look 548 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: over and like I kind of forget that he was there, 549 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 4: and I'd look over and see him and it would 550 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 4: startle me because I felt like there was a person 551 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: sitting in the house. And as I mentioned before, when 552 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 4: we first got him, he wasn't completely assembled. You could 553 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: take his head out of his body, and it has 554 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: all these levers all over it, and one lever controls 555 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 4: his eyebrows going up and down, the other one controls 556 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 4: his eyes moving back and forth, and then he's got 557 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: one for opening and closing his eyes and his mouth. 558 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: And I mean, it's just really, really well made. And 559 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 4: I do believe this is a professional doll. And I'm 560 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: going to try to figure out who made him. I 561 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 4: know a guy, I haven't talked to him in years. 562 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: Here's a professional puppeteer. I'm going to see if I 563 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: can get in touch with him to give you his 564 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 4: insight on who may have made this doll. Where did 565 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 4: this doll come from? But honestly, since we've had him, 566 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: nothing terrible has happened. But I do have him under 567 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: surveillance twenty four to seven. We have instruments on him, 568 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 4: and I just hope the energy stays positive. But I'm 569 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: going to be keeping you updated on this. And I 570 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: am just delighted to have Kennedy and I think it's 571 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: just amazing that Tom sent me this and now I 572 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 4: can study it and tell all of you about it. 573 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: So trust me, there's going to be more to come, 574 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 4: and there's going to be more to come on this show. 575 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 4: In our next segment, I'm going to tell you about 576 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: this very haunted property that I investigated last night. I'm 577 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things 578 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, 579 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: and I will be right back. Welcome back to the 580 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 4: final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the 581 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I 582 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: am your host, Joshua Warren, and I was so wrapped 583 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 4: up and looking at the picture of Kennedy, the haunted 584 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 4: doll and describing him, that I forgot to tell you 585 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: how you can just go look at a picture of 586 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: him yourself. Go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com. There 587 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 4: is no period after the pe at Joshuapwarren dot com. 588 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: Click the link to the Curiosity Shop, scroll around and 589 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: you will find a picture of Kennedy somewhere on that page. 590 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: You can't miss him. And you know white else while 591 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 4: you are there, if you purchase something, guess what's gonna happen. 592 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: I've got some great news. Believe it or not. Our 593 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 4: little dog Lama is still alive and she is doing 594 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: much better than anybody ever expected. I was prepared to 595 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: give you some bad news with this recording, but I'm 596 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: telling you, I mean, it's almost starting to border on miraculous. 597 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 4: So many of you have gone to the Curiosity Shop 598 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: and you've purchased things. All the money goes to her 599 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: medical care. You've been praying, people have been sending various 600 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: gifts that might help her. I mean, it's honestly starting 601 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: to border on miraculous, and so at a certain point, 602 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 4: I do want to tell all of you exactly every 603 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 4: specific thing that we've done and people who have helped 604 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: us specifically along the way, so that if your pet 605 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 4: is having trouble, especially severe trouble, I mean, like on 606 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 4: death's door, I feel obligated to share this information with you. 607 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: So thank you, Thank you, keep the prayers coming, and again, 608 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: please please go to Joshua Pewarren dot com, go to 609 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 4: that Curiosity Shop, and know that any dollar you spend 610 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 4: is going to an excellent cause. I wish we had 611 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,959 Speaker 4: more time, but we don't, So let me jump straight 612 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 4: into what I did last night. I have a friend 613 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 4: who shoots videos on YouTube. They're very popular videos. His 614 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: name is Danny the Medic because he actually is a paramedic. 615 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 4: So if you go to YouTube and you just type 616 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: in Danny da n n Y Danny the Medic, you 617 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: can see the videos that he does that are often 618 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: focused on the Las Vegas area and they're very insightful, 619 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: they're funny, and like I say, he's got a very 620 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: popular channel. So he wanted to do something spooky for 621 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 4: Halloween and I told him that, well, if we were 622 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 4: to get together and investigate a haunted room, we should 623 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: probably do it at the Flamingo. Because long story short, 624 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 4: the Flamingo, which opened on December twenty sixth of nineteen 625 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: forty six, became the model for today's like lavish hotel 626 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: casino on the strip. I mean, that was what everything 627 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 4: else after the Flamingo tried to live up to Flamingos standards. 628 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: And one of the reasons that place was so lavish 629 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: was because it was very expensive to put together. And 630 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 4: the guy who kind of came in and finalized that 631 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 4: whole project was the infamous mobster Bugsy Siegell. Bugsy Siegel 632 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: was one of the most famous gangsters of his day. 633 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 4: And when he got involved with the Flamingo, he was, 634 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 4: you know, around his early forties. He was just a 635 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 4: brutal murderer and he was connected to just about every 636 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 4: vice you can imagine, and yet he was very popular 637 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 4: in the press. He always wore nice suits, and he was, 638 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 4: you know, he was the class kind of like gangster, 639 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: live in the high life kind of thing, even though 640 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: he was a wicked man. And so he was involved 641 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 4: with the mob money and murder Incorporated and all that, 642 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: and so he got an enormous amount of mob money 643 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 4: there to finish up that project. But it didn't open 644 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 4: as well as was expected. He was there managing it 645 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 4: the whole time, and Buggsy Segull. He hated to be 646 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 4: called Bugsy. His name was Benjamin, but they called him 647 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 4: Bugsy because he killed a lot of people with his 648 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: own hands, and everybody said he was crazy as a 649 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 4: bedbug when he got mad, whatever that means. But he 650 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: had his own penthouse there he would stay in, and 651 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 4: he had so many enemies that there was only one 652 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 4: doorway and only one entrance into his suite, but there 653 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 4: were five hidden exits. One of them was through a 654 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 4: closet where he would slide down this ladder basically where 655 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: he would keep a limo driver waiting twenty four hours 656 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 4: a day, seven days a week, you know, to get 657 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 4: him out of there. And so there was a lot 658 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 4: of dark energy around the Flamingo. And at some point, 659 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 4: not long, I mean less than a year after it opened, 660 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 4: the other gangsters who were, you know, bankrolling a lot 661 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 4: of this stuff, Meyer Lansky and such, they said that, well, 662 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 4: a lot of them believed that he was in bezzling 663 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: money and that was a. 664 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: Big no no. 665 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 4: So when he was forty one years old, Bugsy Siegel 666 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 4: was sitting at his girlfriend's house in Beverly Hills in 667 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 4: the evening reading a newspaper, and somebody came outside, came 668 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 4: up to the house outside the window with a rifle 669 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: and shot him multiple times and killed him. One bullet 670 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 4: actually knocked his left eyeball out of his head, so 671 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 4: he died instantly, And that murder has never been solved. 672 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 4: Everybody said that so many people wanted to kill him, 673 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 4: it would be impossible to solve that murder. So what's 674 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 4: interesting is that as soon as that happened, a lot 675 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 4: of people started, you know, they stopped talking about Bugsy 676 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 4: Siegel because they thought, well, we don't want to be 677 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 4: associated with that. But times have changed, and so now 678 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 4: there's actually a garden behind the Flamingo and it has 679 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 4: flamingos in it, and they have a chapel there, and 680 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 4: they have a little memorial with a plaque dedicated to 681 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 4: Bugsy Siegel. And people see the ghost of Bugsy Siegell 682 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 4: walking around that little garden all the time, but also 683 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 4: all over the property, and there have been dozens of 684 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 4: reports of guests and employees seeing these gangster apparitions in 685 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: their rooms at night. Whether or not it actually is 686 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 4: Bugsy Seagull is hard to say, because Buggsy Seagull probably 687 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 4: was always haunted by a lot of these unres unrestful 688 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 4: spirits anyway, that he had helped to provide by being 689 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 4: a murderer, so that the property was always haunted by 690 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 4: those types of beings. But you know, and then there 691 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: was a maid who said that one time she heard 692 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 4: this guy screaming bloody murder, like he was being tortured 693 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 4: in when of the rooms and she got secure and 694 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: went in, but there was nobody in there. The stories 695 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 4: go on and on. How about that whole property being haunted? 696 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 4: So Danny and I got together last night and I 697 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 4: brought some of my best equipment and we sat down 698 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: in his room and we shot some video and I 699 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 4: did some tests. And let me tell you right off 700 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: the bat, the first thing that happened was Danny has 701 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: shot I'm sure hundreds of videos, if not over a thousand, 702 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 4: and as soon as we sit down and start talking 703 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 4: about this, the audio starts cutting in and out. Everything 704 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 4: starts glitching. Even he was amazed, and he says he's 705 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 4: a man of science. Okay, he's a medic, he's not 706 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 4: a ghost enthusiast. Even he was amazed. And after that 707 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 4: we started getting some very strange readings on theF meters. 708 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 4: I had a thermal camera. There got some very interesting 709 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 4: hot spots and cold spots. So I don't know what 710 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: all the results are going to show us. I can 711 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 4: tell you that I did not see the ghost of 712 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 4: a gangster up here in the room last time. But 713 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 4: what I will tell you is that I have not 714 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 4: seen this finished segment yet. And he said that he 715 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 4: is going to release it on October the thirty first, 716 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 4: So I don't know when you're listening to this podcast, 717 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 4: but if you if it's after October the thirty first, 718 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three on or after, well then go to 719 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 4: YouTube and look up Danny the Medic and you'll find 720 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 4: that as one of his most recent videos. But I 721 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 4: find that, you know, at a place like that, you 722 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 4: might go in and say, well, maybe this room isn't haunted, 723 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: maybe that room isn't. But once you start talking about 724 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 4: these things, that alone can bring that energy in. Because 725 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 4: the spiritual realm is not always necessarily tied down to 726 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 4: a particular place or a particular time. You can access 727 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 4: it mentally at any time, from any anywhere, and it 728 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 4: seems like it doesn't matter what you believe or you 729 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 4: don't believe, that there is always something that at least 730 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 4: affects your equipment and your instruments when you start bringing 731 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 4: up this kind of material. And that's why I say 732 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: that's been a hallmark of this particular show. So check 733 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 4: out Danny's video and I could sit here and talk 734 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 4: to you more and more and more about creepy things 735 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 4: related to the mob and the Flamingo, But Ultimately, I 736 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: do love the Flamingo. It's a great place, and I 737 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 4: recommend you check it out. Also, in less than a month, 738 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 4: the new Duringo Casino opens in my neck at the Woods, 739 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to telling you more about that. 740 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 4: All right, my friends, I hope you have enjoyed this 741 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 4: special spooky edition of the show. I will let you 742 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 4: know how things go with. 743 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 1: Kennedy the Doll. 744 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll find out more about who he is and 745 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 4: where he's from and all that kind of thing. But 746 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 4: now it is time, as we often do, to try 747 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 4: to like clear our minds, breathe in something positive. Take 748 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: a deep breath if you can, close your eyes if 749 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 4: you can, let's all listen together to the good Fortune tone. 750 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 4: That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me 751 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: on Twitter at Joshua P. 752 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: Warren. 753 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 4: Plus visit Joshuapwarren dot com to sign up for my 754 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 4: free e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and 755 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 4: check out the cool Stuff and the Curiosity Shop all 756 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 4: at joh Warren dot com. I have a fun one 757 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 4: lined up for you next time, I promise, so please 758 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 4: tell all your friends to subscribe to this show and 759 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 4: to always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, 760 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 4: Thank you for your interest and support. Thank you for 761 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,479 Speaker 4: staying curious, and I will talk to you again soon. 762 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 4: You've been listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and 763 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 4: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 764 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 765 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out all 766 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going to 767 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio dot com