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Speaker 1: White House? Monica or should I call you monfather? As

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Speaker 1: And why am I bringing up nicknames?

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Speaker 3: not our dollars. They don't belong when you're peddling this

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think there was uri Berliner who had worked

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Speaker 1: at NPR for a for a long time and said

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Speaker 1: there's literally zero conservatives in their news room. To same question,

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Speaker 1: do you think, just overall the majority of people that

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Speaker 1: work at NPR, do you think that they think they're

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big believer of giving someone the benefit of

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Speaker 4: But there's too much access to information these days for

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Speaker 4: you to remain as ignorant as I see people continuously be,

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Speaker 4: So I would say they're doing their own purpose. Matter

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Speaker 4: of fact, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if either

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Speaker 4: thought if the CEO had step down, I won't be

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Speaker 4: surprised if she ends up friending Elmo out there.

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Speaker 2: What he's about. President so, you know, because it's a

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Speaker 2: type of company. These type of people keep, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, they keep people that really hate Trump, that got

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Speaker 4: the TDS uh and they don't know what to do

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Speaker 4: with their emotions.

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Speaker 2: You know, they always rattled up.

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Speaker 4: But you know, she said she she was gonna do

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Speaker 4: this regardless, and I'm just like, yeah, so money's disappearing

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Speaker 4: and you was gonna do that. But I do want

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Speaker 4: to encourage people if you do enjoy a PR and

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Speaker 4: PBS and programs like that. Nothing stopping the individual person

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Speaker 4: for donating to these channels.

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Speaker 2: I remember someone brought up a good point and said,

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Speaker 2: you know, when we.

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Speaker 4: Used to watch these shows, they said, hey, to keep

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Speaker 4: keep us on air, all you got to do is

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Speaker 4: donate here. So what they're not being paid by individual donors,

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Speaker 4: and they've been paid by the government this entire time.

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Speaker 2: It's confusing to me, you know.

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Speaker 4: So if you like these programs, put your money where

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Speaker 4: your mouth is and otherwise just shut up. When we're

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Speaker 4: no longer pushing the craft that the leftist and socials

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Speaker 4: want in this country. Our children deserve better and America

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Speaker 4: deserve better. So yeah, nah' see you later.

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Speaker 2: Don't let it get people good.

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Speaker 1: I actually do listen to NPR to keep myself up

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Speaker 1: on what the libs are saying, but also to punish

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Speaker 1: myself for my sins. But I will not be donating,

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Speaker 1: so people are abundantly clear on that. Maheck cook tofer guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 12: As the Vagina Whisperer, also a peepee poopoo expert. Correct,

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Speaker 12: So now you're my favorite guest who's ever been on

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Speaker 12: the show.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 6: What does that mean?

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Speaker 12: How did you become the vagina Whisperer. Well, I'm a

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor physical therapist. So I went to physical therapy school,

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Speaker 12: and you know, right after physical therapy school, I started

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Speaker 12: in pelvic floor therapy, which no one had any idea

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Speaker 12: what it was eighteen years ago. And when I started

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Speaker 12: having kids, my girlfriends would call me and ask me

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Speaker 12: questions about like do I need to do paraneal massage

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Speaker 12: and what do I do for birth or what do

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Speaker 12: I do for postpartum? And so they really coined me

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Speaker 12: the Vagina Whisper because I was who they would come

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Speaker 12: to to ask questions about their vagina. And so when

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Speaker 12: I started my Instagram account six or seven years ago,

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Speaker 12: it was for my group of girlfriends to share more

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor tips, and so I called it the Vagina

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Speaker 12: Whisper for them. And then here we are, you know,

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Speaker 12: many years later, with a book coming out and a

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Speaker 12: brand and so it's just really been exciting. And so

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Speaker 12: what does that have to do with pee and poop?

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Speaker 12: I mean, because you're because I don't know much about

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor, but like just that whole area and house

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Speaker 12: wrong it is? Can help with that? Well, your pelvic

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Speaker 12: floor is a basket of muscles, so physical therapists work

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Speaker 12: with muscles all throughout the body. I work with pelvic

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Speaker 12: floor muscles in the pelvic region, and these muscles sit

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Speaker 12: like a hammock at the base of your pelvis, and

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Speaker 12: they hold your uterus, your bladder which holds pea, your

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Speaker 12: rectum which holds poop, and they have the openings to

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Speaker 12: eliminate those so the opening for your into exit, the

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Speaker 12: opening for poo to exit, and then the vagina for

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Speaker 12: vaginal intercourse, menstruation, vaginal birth, and so if there's any

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Speaker 12: problems in that area, these muscles are likely affected. Why

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Speaker 12: is the pelvic floor so important to our overall health

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Speaker 12: for so many reasons. One, we use it all throughout

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Speaker 12: the day, So Alex, when we're sitting here, our pelvic

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Speaker 12: floor is supporting our core, it's keeping in pea and poop,

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Speaker 12: you know, when we go to the restroom, it's relaxing.

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Speaker 12: It literally is contracting and relaxing with every breath that

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Speaker 12: we take. And we don't really understand what it does

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Speaker 12: until something goes wrong with it. And I think this

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Speaker 12: is why I'm so passionate, is because I I see

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Speaker 12: women in my practice for the past eighteen years who

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Speaker 12: have pelvic floor problems, and all of them said, I

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Speaker 12: wish I would have known this sooner. Why didn't anybody

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Speaker 12: tell me about my pelvic floor sooner? Because there's so

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Speaker 12: many things we can do to proactively take care of it.

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Speaker 12: And so when typically in a woman's life does something

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Speaker 12: go wrong with the pelvic floor for the first time,

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Speaker 12: you know, you can experience pelvic floor issues at any

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Speaker 12: time in your life, whether you're having your first period

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Speaker 12: and you have a hard time inserting a tampon, whether

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Speaker 12: you become sexually active and intercourse is painful, or you're

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Speaker 12: not able to have an orgasm. But I would say

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Speaker 12: some of the primary times that it first happens is

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Speaker 12: during pregnancy. That is when the pelvic floor muscles, the

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Speaker 12: hammock that supports the uterus, starts to really stretch, and

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Speaker 12: this is when we see urinary leakage start occurring, weakness

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Speaker 12: of the muscles where your pelvic organs aren't as supported.

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Speaker 12: It can also lead to core weakness. There's a condition

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Speaker 12: called diastasisrecti when your core starts to really separate. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I've seen that. Yeah, women who give birth and it

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Speaker 12: is like there's stomach looks loose. Yes, it looks like

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Speaker 12: they're still pregnant, but they're not pregnant anymore. And it's

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Speaker 12: unfortunate because you know, pregnancy changes the pelvic floor. Birth

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Speaker 12: does as well. Regardless of which method you birth Ceceyrian

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Speaker 12: birth or vaginal birth, your pelvic floor changes and there's

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Speaker 12: no rehab or recovery afterwards. Women are just sent home

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Speaker 12: with a baby. They maybe have a six week appointment,

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Speaker 12: which forty percent of women don't even attend, and then

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Speaker 12: their pelvic floor doesn't work for them as well anymore.

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Speaker 12: And that's where we see a lot of changes really

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Speaker 12: start to become chronic. You just said something that really

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Speaker 12: shocked me. Ce section moms need pelvic floor physical therapy

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Speaker 12: one hundred percent. Explain that. Well, So pregnancy itself changes

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Speaker 12: the pelvic floor. So regardless of what method of birth, Okay,

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Speaker 12: you know, almost fifty percent of women leak you'urin by

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Speaker 12: their third trimester. Almost ninety percent have low back pain,

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Speaker 12: which is connected to your pelvic floor. You know, almost

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Speaker 12: half can have pelvic organ prolapse. So even before you

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Speaker 12: give birth, your pelvic floor has weakened. Now post birth,

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Speaker 12: if you have a vaginal birth, you you typically have

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Speaker 12: perennial tearing where there's tissue tearing or cut at the

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Speaker 12: opening of the vagina that has to heal. But for

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Speaker 12: cesarean birth, there's scar tissue at the abdomen, and your

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Speaker 12: abdomen is connected to your pelvic floor. So women who

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Speaker 12: have a sea section can have pain with sex, they

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Speaker 12: can have painful menstruation, constipation, incomplete bladder empty, all because

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Speaker 12: of that sea section scar that's causing pelvic floor tension

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Speaker 12: and restriction and not relaxing well when we need it.

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Speaker 12: You know, the pelvic floor is connected to so many

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Speaker 12: parts of our body. It doesn't work in isolation. So yes,

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Speaker 12: sea section moms absolutely have to have PELFC therapy after birth.

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Speaker 12: Would it be ideal to start pelvic floor therapy before pregnancy? Yes,

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Speaker 12: Oh my goodness, I mean this is unfortunately not the

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Speaker 12: way their health care system is set up. We one

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Speaker 12: are working to get moms into pelvic therapy postpartum. So

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Speaker 12: just when you go see your doctor or midwife at

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Speaker 12: six weeks post birth, you should also be checking with

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Speaker 12: a pelvic four therapist. This is when you need to

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Speaker 12: check your pelvic for muscle strength, any scar tissue, any tension,

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Speaker 12: look at a cesarean scar a, diastasis. All of these

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Speaker 12: things can be addressed by a pelvic floor therapist, But

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Speaker 12: during pregnancy, research is very clear if you work on

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Speaker 12: pelvic for muscle training during pregnancy, you're less likely to

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Speaker 12: have problems postpartum. So you should absolutely see a therapist

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Speaker 12: during pregnancy, and it can help you prepare for birth

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Speaker 12: as well. When you say that pelvic floor therapy before

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Speaker 12: giving birth can help with birth, like in what ways,

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Speaker 12: Like it'll be easier to push the baby out vaginally. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: So most women don't even know what these muscles do

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Speaker 12: or how they work. And when you're giving birth vaginally,

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Speaker 12: you are you have a room full of medical people

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Speaker 12: under fluorescent lights yelling at you to push, push, push,

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Speaker 12: And if you've never learned how to relax your pelvic

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Speaker 12: floor muscles, you don't know how to do that in

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Speaker 12: that moment when there's so much pressure and performance and

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Speaker 12: typically medicine. You know, if you have an epidural or

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Speaker 12: different medications, those muscles just aren't going to work as

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Speaker 12: naturally as if you have an unmedicated birth. Knowing what

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Speaker 12: you know, did you have an unmedicated birth with your children?

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Speaker 12: I had two unmedicated births with my kid, because you

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Speaker 12: just felt like you'd have more control of your pelvic floor.

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Speaker 12: Because I felt like, knowing the research that if you

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Speaker 12: have an unmedicated birth, you're less likely to have a

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Speaker 12: CE section, you're less likely to have paranial trauma or

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Speaker 12: pelvic floor weakness, you're less likely to have postpartum complications.

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Speaker 12: I opted to say I want to do this because

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Speaker 12: I know that I think we're over using medicine and birth,

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Speaker 12: and I think it's a wonderful thing to have to

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Speaker 12: help protect babies and moms. But it's very clear that

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Speaker 12: it's just birth is over medicalized, and so for me,

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Speaker 12: and it's a personal choice for everyone. But my choice

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Speaker 12: was to attempt to have a vaginal birth, and I

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Speaker 12: had two vaginal births okay, and no peranial tearing. Interesting.

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Speaker 12: Doing the pelvic floor physical therapy before birth can kind

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Speaker 12: of help you know how to use those muscles correctly

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Speaker 12: to prevent the tearing then and all that that's what

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Speaker 12: you were saying, to minimize the risk of tearing, to

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Speaker 12: also empower you. I think we're sending women into birth

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Speaker 12: and we often give our you know, t haunting me

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Speaker 12: over to a medical provider and say I'm just going

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Speaker 12: to do whatever the doctor says, which is fine. However

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Speaker 12: the doctor isn't in the room meant much of the

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Speaker 12: time if you're in a hospital. But also it's like

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Speaker 12: you're going through a huge physical event and you haven't

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Speaker 12: trained for it. It's like going to run a marathon

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Speaker 12: and you don't even know how to run a mile.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, I mean when you.

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Speaker 12: Think of it that way, you know, pregnancy is ten months,

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Speaker 12: birth can go on for days. Labor and birth can

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Speaker 12: go on for days, and so how do we help

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Speaker 12: educate and empower women about this part of their body

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Speaker 12: So really just helping you train for this physical event

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Speaker 12: and then birth is going to take whatever way it's

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Speaker 12: We can't control everything, but at least you go into

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Speaker 12: it feeling like, hey, I did everything I could to

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Speaker 7: How does the.

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Speaker 12: Pelvic floor change throughout different seasons of life. I would

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Speaker 12: activity level. So if you are a high intensity female athlete,

677
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Speaker 12: which means running, jumping, CrossFit, cheer, tennis, volleyball, you can

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Speaker 1: email with a video that we will play in just

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Speaker 1: a quick second. But first I got check to the

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The emailer sent a complaint. The thing is, I agree

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Speaker 1: misconception of what it is that was happening on the show.

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Speaker 1: I will right now point out this is kind of

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Speaker 1: difficult I am wearing pants. These are actually rather nice

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Speaker 1: and comfortable pants. They just happen to be khaki, and

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Speaker 1: you know, depending on your TV color might match what

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Speaker 1: my skin tone looks like underneath them. I've got probably

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Speaker 1: four or five different pants that I rotate. But the

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Speaker 1: operative thing here is that I'm wearing pants, which brings

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Speaker 1: us to this email from Kathy. Go ahead and go

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Speaker 1: to graphic one here Glenn jobob'sttire and Joe Jobob show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that, but please ask him to

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Speaker 1: not show his bare legs against his jacket. Always wear

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Speaker 1: a polo show, basically saying wear shorts. And the thing is, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one percent. Actually, this is one

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Speaker 1: of my main things that it irritates me to no

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Speaker 1: end people who wear shorts publicly in the view. And

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Speaker 1: I have been guilty of this before in the past,

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Speaker 1: but I've corrected my ways. And also people that wear

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Speaker 1: shorts on a stage. If you're going to be on

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Speaker 1: sports unless you're a camp counselor at a kid's summer camp.

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Speaker 1: Then fine, that's I get it. You can be on

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Speaker 1: a stage with shorts. Other than that, no, you should

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Speaker 1: be wearing pants at all times. Now, I think there

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Speaker 1: was a viewing an optical issue there, because yes, I

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Speaker 1: am wearing pants. I would never wear shorts on the

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Speaker 1: show like this. But also I can totally see how

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Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult with the with the the little

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Speaker 1: title here and people seeing that. But anyways, bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: we love seeing your emails, and I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: clear that up. I would never wear shorts and just

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Speaker 1: have my legs out there. What self respecting man would

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Speaker 1: do that to an audience. But I do. I do

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Speaker 1: like wearing these pants quite a bit. They're very, very comfortable,

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Speaker 1: and you know that that is what it is. But

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Speaker 1: enough about shorts and onto what I think is one

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Speaker 1: of the funnier videos and I've seen in a while. Again,

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Speaker 1: send to us at our email TPT at TPUSA dot com. Uh,

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Speaker 1: send us, send us the hilarious video, send us the

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Speaker 1: funny memes. And you know, if I stopped jabbering, maybe

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Speaker 1: we could get to more of them, because some of

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Speaker 1: the ones that you guys send are hilarious. U TPT

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Speaker 1: this is from. Specifically, but watch this and try not

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 13: Boy and I are basically trying to leave the US

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Speaker 13: for our own safety because we're both strands. If you

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Speaker 13: to give, though, you can literally just like comment boost

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Speaker 13: you all you can to get traction to this video.

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Speaker 14: Work from the bottom up.

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Speaker 13: If you want to stay till the whole minute so

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Speaker 13: I can get some money off of this, you can

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Speaker 13: just you know, old top corners zoom through it.

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Speaker 14: You're already halfway there.

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Speaker 13: Right now, we're fundraising to have enough money in our

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Speaker 14: Not only do I live in a.

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Speaker 13: Red town in a blue state, which makes it very

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Speaker 13: declining right now. Since my health has been declining and

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Speaker 14: Because we were just trying to survive.

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Speaker 13: So your help would mean the world to us because

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we are so stressed right now.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say on the record initially at the onset,

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for this person. This is a person

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Speaker 1: to deal with that. Okay, now that that's out of

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Speaker 1: the way, Holy cow, some of these people are nuts, man, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: first of all, let's set up premise here. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to leave the United States to go to another country.

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Speaker 1: Where else are you gonna go? And and two why

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Speaker 1: not just move into a different city in the United States?

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Speaker 1: There are cities in this country. Unfortunately, there are more

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Speaker 1: than accepting of people that have gender delusions, such as

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Speaker 1: There's why did you need to go out of the country.

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Speaker 1: If you ask anybody at any period of time where

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Speaker 1: want to be born, and I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: set that up correctly, but the answer is in the

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Speaker 1: United States today that is the best place to be

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Speaker 1: and thriving life regardless of what life obstacles get thrown

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Speaker 1: at you. You want to be in the United States

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Speaker 1: and you want to be here. Now, this is the

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Speaker 1: best country on earth. It's the freeze country on Earth.

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Speaker 1: And I have no idea why you would be scared

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Speaker 1: for your quote unquote safety. Now, that is another thing

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Speaker 1: language wise that it needs to be addressed. People is

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Speaker 1: libs specifically try to obfuscate the language of safety and

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Speaker 1: danger and harm and violence. If you say those words

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Speaker 1: describing speech and culture and society, they mean nothing. If

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Speaker 1: say this, but this is kind of the same sentiment,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to say that while they're perpetuating violence

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Speaker 1: by saying words that I don't like, none of that

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Speaker 1: word verbage means anything anymore. Holy, cal We're pretty much

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Speaker 1: out of time, But there's a laundry list of things

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Speaker 1: that could go on to here. Just at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Like I said at the onset, get

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Speaker 1: some help. We would appreciate. I would like for you

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Speaker 1: to be in a better mental headspace than the one

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Speaker 1: do that. I think it's possible to reverse course and

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Speaker 1: get the help that you so desperately need. Clearly, but

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us here at

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Speaker 1: turning point tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Kirk is going to take us out with a fantastic

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Speaker 1: clip from his Israel Palestine debate at the Student Action

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Speaker 1: some we will see you tomorrow, same time, saying place

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Speaker 1: God bless America.

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Speaker 15: Look, the recent twelve day war is literally the encapsulation

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Speaker 15: of the Trump doctrine of foreign policy. Donald Trump ran

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Speaker 15: actually have a whole chapter in my book, Israel and

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Speaker 15: Civilization talking about how bad neo conservatism is is chapter seven.

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Speaker 15: If you haven't read, you should go ahead and pick

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Speaker 15: up a copy. So it's really good that Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: opposes moralistic nation building boondoggles. Guess what Donald Trump is

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Speaker 15: also not and never has been since day one. He's

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Speaker 15: never been a hardcore isolationist. He is a foreign policy

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Speaker 15: nationalist and realist. We would say that he is a Jacksonian.

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Speaker 15: He is in the mold of Andrew Jackson one of

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Speaker 15: his favorite presidents of all time because he leaves in

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Speaker 15: generally following the very wise advice of George Washington in

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Speaker 15: his farewell address that you should be aware of foreign entanglements,

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Speaker 15: but when you are attacked, you are going to punch

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Speaker 15: back three times as hard. How many times has Trump

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Speaker 15: in the Twelve Day War was you had a close

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Speaker 15: ally Israel that through their wonderful control of the skies

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Speaker 15: and they're taking out the missile launchers and the IRGC command.

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Speaker 15: They're essentially paved a very clean runway through that and

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Speaker 15: they're neutralizing has Bola last year in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 15: That then allowed the United States to come in with

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Speaker 15: the B two bombers and the death blow. It was

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Speaker 15: a perfect ally U for you basketball fans. It was

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Speaker 15: kind of like Kobe Bryant tossing it to Shaquille O'Neil

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Speaker 15: back in the way. It was a perfect tag team

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Speaker 15: operation to neutralize and set back by many years the

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Speaker 15: threat of a regime that whether or not we care

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Speaker 15: to admit it has actually been at war with the

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Speaker 15: United States at least since the nineteen eighty three Beirut

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Speaker 15: Lebanon has Balla Barracks bombings that slaughter two hundred and

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Speaker 15: forty one marines. Thk you believe since the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 15: nine hostage crisis as well. Again, Donald Trump fulfilled multiple

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Speaker 15: canpaign promises he set back the nuclear program. Not a

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Speaker 15: single American soldier, sailor or marine dot. It was a brilliant,

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Speaker 15: brilliant move of statesmanship, a fantastical move. Frankly, it's a

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Speaker 15: borderline Mount Rushmore world accomplishment.

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Speaker 7: I would say.

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Speaker 9: So, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna insert myself

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Speaker 9: because I don't want to have to talk past each other,

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Speaker 9: because these conversations have a tendency to do that. So

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna ask both of you

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Speaker 9: a critical question that both of you guys already launched.

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Speaker 9: Josh to you first, Dave's contention, and Dave, you can

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Speaker 9: correct me. I have a wrong, is that the nuclear

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Speaker 9: program was not a threat? Correct that it was a

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Speaker 9: Intel push. Would you even say that? What I'm strong

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Speaker 9: manning your argument Steel manning it, Josh, what do you

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Speaker 9: have to say to that, to the veracity of the

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Speaker 9: claim that there was an imminent threat of Iran getting

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Speaker 9: a nuclear bump that is a core point of Dave's argument.

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Speaker 9: Than Dave, I'm gonna throw back an equally difficult question

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Speaker 9: for you, Josh.

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Speaker 15: So I profess agnosticism as to the imminage nature Charlie,

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Speaker 15: because I have not seen the reports, neither no other

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Speaker 15: as Dave. Literally no one in this room has actually

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Speaker 15: seen the report. So I do not know literally what

907
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Speaker 15: the exactly imminent nature of the threat was. It would

908
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Speaker 15: be impossible for me to say, I'm not going to

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Speaker 15: bullshit you and pretend like I know, because I simply

910
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Speaker 15: don't know. What I can say is the following. Iran

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Speaker 15: has transparently and obviously been trying to acquire a nuclear

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Speaker 15: weapon for two and a half three decades. We know

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Speaker 15: this for approximately one to two million different reasons. Among

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Speaker 15: them that we can point to is that the IAEA,

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Speaker 15: the International Atomic Energy Administration, which is essentially the nuclear

916
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Speaker 15: watchdog for the Unite Nations, they have been sounding the

917
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Speaker 15: alarm about this, and they have said very loudly and

918
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Speaker 15: clearly that Iran has blocked their inspectors from going to

919
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Speaker 15: inspect their enriched uranium, and that they have concluded over

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Speaker 15: the over recent years, especially including recent months, that Iran

921
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Speaker 15: is enriching uranium at a much quicker rate into a

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Speaker 15: much higher percentage and rate of enrichment than any civilian

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Speaker 15: program would ever justify. By the way, the notion that

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Speaker 15: Iran even needs a civilian program in the first place,

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Speaker 15: I think is kind of bonkers. Is one of the

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Speaker 15: most petroleum, oil and gas rich countries in the world,

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Speaker 15: so that's kind of a bit of a red herring

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Speaker 15: in and of itself. But we know from a million

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Speaker 15: different international organizations that they have been doing this, and

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Speaker 15: Charlie more to the points again, you know, Dave likes

931
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Speaker 15: to say, oh, they just chant death to America, which

932
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Speaker 15: they do. They literally chanted every single day in their

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Speaker 15: Potempkin parliament, but they actually do act on it. They

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Speaker 15: killed hundreds and hundreds of American soldiers on the roadside

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Speaker 15: of Fallujah, Alambar Province during a rock with Kasaim Sulimani

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Speaker 15: supplied IEDs.

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Speaker 7: They have killed.

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Speaker 15: Americans going back to the two hundred forty one Marines

939
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Speaker 15: in Bairu Lebanon by the way, the Hasbologi hottists who

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Speaker 15: organized that operation to slaughter those Marines in Babirut Lebanon

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Speaker 15: in nineteen eighty three was manned by the name of

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Speaker 15: Fuad Shakur. The US State Department had a five million

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Speaker 15: dollar bounty on his head following the nineteen eighty three

944
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Speaker 15: slaughter of the Marines there in Beirut. He went alive

945
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Speaker 15: for forty one years. You know who killed him? Last year,

946
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Speaker 15: the IDEF Israel took out this guy that the State

947
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Speaker 15: Department had a five million dollar bounty out for forty

948
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Speaker 15: one years for killing two hundred and forty one of

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Speaker 15: our boys back in nineteen eighth.

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Speaker 9: So I'm gonna now ask Josh. I'm going to a

951
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Speaker 9: really tough follow up for you. You do not want Iran

952
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Speaker 9: to get a nuclear weapon?

953
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Speaker 7: Bad?

954
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Speaker 9: Would you if it ever took, if it if it

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Speaker 9: required US troops on the ground, would that be worth

956
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Speaker 9: a ron not getting a nuclear weapon?

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Speaker 15: Charlie, with respect, I reject the premise. I simply do

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Speaker 15: not think it does.

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Speaker 9: Actually, I know it's a hypothetical, but it's worth thinking about. Okay, Dave,

960
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Speaker 9: I got to ask you tough questions now, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: My guy, I want to respond to some of this

962
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Speaker 7: stuff because.

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Speaker 9: All of that you will, you will hold on. I

964
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Speaker 9: I don't want us to talk past each other. Else

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Speaker 9: we're gonna spend all this time on prime ministers in

966
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Speaker 9: two thousand and two that the audience doesn't know about it, but.

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Speaker 7: He's making claims about like something. That's just enough I

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Speaker 7: want you to get to.

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Speaker 9: I want to just ask a very simple question from

970
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Speaker 9: your perspective, because I just asked the tough one to Josh,

971
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Speaker 9: is are you okay or do you think we should

972
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Speaker 9: do anything to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bond?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Anything? Sure? Yeah, there's lots of things I think we

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Speaker 7: should do.

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Speaker 9: And military action ever justified?

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Speaker 16: Well, so again this is yes, there are times when

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Speaker 16: military action is justified. But if you're saying what we

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Speaker 16: could do to prevent around from getting a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 16: what we were doing. Donald Trump was in negotiations with them,

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Speaker 16: and I think he should have continued those. And the

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Speaker 16: truth is that the big problem with the JCPOA that

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Speaker 16: Obama got us into was that there were sunset provisions.

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Speaker 7: They opened up a whole new inspections regime.

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Speaker 16: It is not true that the IAEA is saying that

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Speaker 16: Iran was about to get a nuclear weapon. Anybody you

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Speaker 16: want all it's published online. You can go read the

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Speaker 16: conclusion of their last report where they explicitly said Iran

989
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Speaker 16: does not have nuclear weapons and is not trying.

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Speaker 7: To develop them.

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Speaker 16: They are enriching at sixty percent, and they were in

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Speaker 16: negotiations to maybe bring that down. But you know, when

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Speaker 16: you bring up when you bring up the fact the

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Speaker 16: Marines getting killed in nineteen eighty three, it's actually an

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Speaker 16: interesting if. Ronald Reagan, who was president at the time,

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Speaker 16: he wrote about this in his memoir. Now, if you

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Speaker 16: know what Ronald Reagan did was he pulled out after that,

998
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Speaker 16: he turned tail and run. And he said in his

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Speaker 16: memoir he said, I underestimated the irrationale of Middle Eastern

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Speaker 16: politics and we never should have gotten involved in that.

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Speaker 7: Now, if you want to say that a.

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Speaker 16: Ran backed them, okay, A couple of years after that, Charlie,

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Speaker 16: there was a scandal in the Reagan administration. It was

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Speaker 16: the Something contrast a Ran contract. That's right, Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 16: was selling weapons to the Iranians a couple years after

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Speaker 16: this happened. So to come back now forty plus years

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Speaker 16: later and use that is the excuse why we got

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Speaker 7: I mean, just think about how crazy this is.

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