WEBVTT - Robert J. Cerfolio, MD 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.480 The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now. 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.960 It's a new show, it's new material, but I'm afraid 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:12.520 it's still only me, Craig Ferguson on my own, standing 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.840 on a stage telling comedy words. Come and see me, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.599 buy tickets, bring your loved ones, or don't come and 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.479 see me. Don't buy tickets and don't bring your loved ones. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.959 I'm not your dad. You come or don't come, but 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.200 you should at least know what's happening, and it is. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.200 The tour kicks off late September and goes through the 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.040 end of the year and beyond. Tickets are available at 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.519 the Craig Ferguson Show dot com slash tour. They're available 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.800 at the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour or 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:45.159 at your local outlet in your region. My name is 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.960 Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. I 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.680 talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.800 My guest today has been here before, but he's so 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:04.679 expensive and funny and interesting, and I'll be honest, he's 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.720 a little weird, but that's kind of what you want 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.920 in someone who's as accomplished a surgeon as he is. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.160 I know he's a surgeon. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.920 It's not any of this show business circus crap that 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.319 I usually get in here. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.760 He's a proper growing up doctor, doctor Robert J. S Folio. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.520 So let me tell you this, yes, doctor, as a 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.120 doctor like sarcastically that I. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.479 Shouldn't say that. You know why. You know, you didn't 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:36.959 deserve it. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.840 You are a doctor, and you're a very good doctor. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.000 And that's and so I don't want to say doctor. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.400 So let me let me try that again. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.119 Let me tell you something, doctor, Yeah, that was a yeah, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:47.640 all right. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.600 So the only rule I have for myself on this 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.600 podcast is I only talk to people I want to 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:52.880 talk to. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.760 That's the only rule. I love that. Yeah. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.840 See, and that's why you are my second repeat guest. Wow, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.880 you're the only only the second person who ever did it? 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.000 So now I have to ask who was the first? 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:10.440 Jesus very close, very close. Kathy Lee Geffert a very 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.240 good friend of Jesus, and she is, I mean, they 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:18.280 are best friend. You know. I listened to one of 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.200 your podcasts and it was her. Yeah, didn't do you know? Kathy? 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.080 No, I feel I feel like you say that, like, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.160 how would I meet you mean you're. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:30.639 A simple robotic lung surgeon. Why would I mean, come on? 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.639 Fuck you? Well that I hear a lot. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:38.120 Yeah. So the the idea that I would invite you 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.520 back is and I don't want you in any way 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.239 to think this is a way for me to get 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.440 free medical advice. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.080 But I'm happy to provide it because it's worth what 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.320 you pay for it. All right, So here you do 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.679 work on the esophius, right, I do. We've talked about 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.000 it that I think the last time you were here. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.560 Because my father died of cancer. I remember. Obviously I'm paranoid, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.600 but you have parrots. I do not have Barretts. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.200 Because I got to nandoscope and they had to look 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:08.359 at what they called a molecular paneling and biopsy. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.200 that I got called Arnie Markowitz, did it? 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.639 He's a sloon cattering beautiful. Yeah. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.320 So I don't want to I don't want to promote 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:17.600 the competition, you know. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.680 No, So the competition is cancer and healthcare and equity 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.760 and diabetes. It's not slung kettering Columbia Cord. Now we 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.840 can say very noble man, but that is true. It 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.160 is true. And of course we can say that with 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.799 the NYU because we're the number one ranked lung cancer 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.440 program in the world and the number one hospital, number 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 two hospital in the United States and north of rank. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.200 So of course we can take the higher road. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.280 Wait, wait a minute, I got to ask then, in 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.400 the same way as Kathy Lee Gifford, who's. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.360 The number one hospital in the United States. Unfortunately, because 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.720 of a reputation factor as opposed to outcomes, the Mayo 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.120 Clinic is number one, number two. That's according to US 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 News and World Report, and also Mayo. They're named after 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.320 a condiment. It's not the it's not what you want 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.760 in a hospital. That's what we should be. That's what 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.760 we did wrong. You should be ketchup or some kind 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.600 of Berneese wow, that would have been that would have 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.480 played to the European client New York Bernese Hospital. That's it. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.240 Then people really come to you. So let me ask 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.320 you this, right, So I got this. I got this 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.040 endoscope done. By the way, do you know that in 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.480 Britain on the National Health Service they give endoscopes without anesthesia. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.680 They do a lot of things in Britain in a 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.640 national healthcare system, like. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.480 I was talking about Buddy and he gets an endoscope 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.320 he said, he said, I was the whole time I went, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:33.599 you weren't asleep. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.720 Yeah, it's crazy. Well, sometimes they do it because it's 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.640 a lot less expensive to do it in outpatient facilities, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.599 which we do. But then to have an anesthesiologist there 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.000 as opposed to a nurse anesthesiologist to practice, you can 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.840 reduce your costs. And they give you a little bit 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.880 of twilight stuff like colonoscopy as opposed to being completely out. No, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.600 I go for the phil probofall for the kolonoscopy too. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.680 I remember that you enjoyed that. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.800 Yeah, you know, it's not so much the caliscopy because 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.120 I have no memory. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.799 The fact you get one one a month has clued 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.160 me in that you would joy. Not so much the process. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.440 I've got to be careful with that's medicine. Well you 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.080 know my history, you know with drugs. So I remember 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.680 like that prop See this is a thing. Did I 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.720 talk to you about this? What I got dental surgery done? No, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.200 I don't know about the dental. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.520 So I get a couple of years ago, I got 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.120 dental surgery done, and they give me a pain because 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.200 it's pretty painful thing. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.560 Right. It was like some bone marrow thing or something. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.159 Bone it was. It wasn't a root canal. No, they 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.040 an extraction and then they put in an implant. Yeah, 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.480 I have an implant screwed into the bone. Yeah. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.320 But they had to put bone marrow transplant in before 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.840 bone grafting. Yeah, an bone graft. So they do all 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.760 of that. It's all very painful. And the dog, she says, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.839 here's some painkillers. And I said, well, I gotta be careful. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.960 We went out, these would be all right, I take 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.360 one of these days. I don't even I don't even 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.040 put myself in charge of them. I give them to 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:55.440 my wife. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.040 That's fantastically responsible. Well, with my history, you gotta be careful, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.680 and I appreciate it. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.320 So I give them to my wife, and I say, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.120 all right, you'll none of these, and if it gets 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:03.880 too bad. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.040 I'll take one. Right, so it gets really bad, which night, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.480 first night? Second night? I think it was the second night, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.800 you're not sure. It means they were working very well, but. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.560 Yeah, so I take this one. It's called percisset. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.720 Yeah, percocets. Jesus's that's the real deal. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.840 I have never had a better drug in my fucking life. Really, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.520 and I've taken one purpose of one of them. Man, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:33.560 I just like the the I've taken everything everything, heroine, cocaine, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.800 speed and all of I've had all all the drugs 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.000 I've had, But legal drugs. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.320 Gosh, unbelieve it's interesting. So here's the funny thing. I 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.160 have never even had marijuana. I have tried nothing. Hate marijuana. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.360 I hate the smell of it. I saw in New York. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.000 It's says like you're in marijuana everywhere. It's unbelievable. I 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.400 come out of my apartment building at six thirty in 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.200 the morning, he goes see my patients, and the waft 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.360 of it sounds like a skunk. Literally sounds like a skunk. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.400 That's what they call it. They call it skunk. It's 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.560 horrible people can do this. I just don't get it. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.640 So I am so anti drug and alcohol just because 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.640 the way I was raising them, because being a doctor, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.360 and see the message. You see what it does, See 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:14.760 what it does. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.280 We also I think it's uh, it's persecution against my people, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.320 the Scots and the Irish because because. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.600 Italians will be careful, there's a lot of wine going on. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.840 But here's the thing the Scot's in the Irish like 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.920 if you're a good old gooda Scots and Irish, you 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.680 know y gooda a good old Scots and I I 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.160 was going to say drunk, and then I changed my mind, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:34.880 so it sided to goda. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.320 I just made up a word. Go does the hell 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.080 of a word a go to you? We'll just make it. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.840 We'll just make it. It's a new word. We developed 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.400 it right here Urban Dictionary. Right. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.320 So if you're a goda, which means good old drunk 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.720 from Scotland or Island, right, you have to hide your 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.280 shame by by putting it in a brown paper or 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.240 flask flasks or a brown paper bag in the streets, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.360 so people think you're having a soda and everybody knows 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.880 you're not having soa direct but you have to hide it. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.280 But if you're you know, one of those continental types 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.960 it likes to smoke marijuana cigarettes. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.760 You can just walk down the streets smoke at them. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.280 It's crazy. Yeah, I like the days when at least 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.920 they had to hide it. Now my apartment building, I 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.000 have a nice apartment building two blocks from work, so 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.240 I can be in the o R if there's a 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.200 problem close to the patients, or there's an administrative problem. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.720 I'm in in two minutes. There's people on my floor 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.600 that's smoking. Not supposed to smoke in the building. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.640 Yeah, but it gets in people's clothes and in their 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.280 hair and stuff, and they can't smell anymore. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.240 It's like cat people. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.720 It is great analogy. It's like cat people. The cat people, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.040 they can't smell like these smell a cat, but these smell. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.559 A cat, and they always smell like cats. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.120 Yeah, and their houses smell like cats. Terrible when you 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.840 go to their houses and I go to their houses 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:45.160 and love. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.080 I don't know. So what's the affinity between you and 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.280 the cat people. It's just there might be a there 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.680 might be an important thread there emotionally for you. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.480 Well, I think I've probably run in a tox of 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.920 plasmosis from an old girlfriend. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.760 Maybe very good, you know, cox of plasma because I'm 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.280 because I know what cats can do. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.360 My brother in law was bitten by a cat right 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.079 what year was, I don't know, like four or five 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.000 years ago recently. Yeah, So he's bitten by a cat 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.480 and he goes to our doctor in California. It's bad 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.360 because my wife is with him at the time she 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.000 was about that, we were in Scotland. She was going 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.720 to come over at Scotland. She said, I gotta stay 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.360 I mean, he was bitten by a cat. You gotta 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.000 stay by. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.160 You gotta kitting's got in the airplane and go. Well 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:32.559 apparently he gives yes, he got Oh you are filming. Yeah, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.920 the lion's got a red streaky infection going up the tendon. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.560 That can actually be very serious. That can be very serious. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.160 That they were saying, maybe we have to amputate the arm. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.160 Maybe that's drastic ivy antibiotics train. Yeah, and they opened 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.960 the bite and drain it right. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.240 They did all that and it was fine. But I 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.640 mean they said, I if you had left it longer 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.840 from a cat. So here's my next question. Was the 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.960 cat alive the next day. The cat's doing my my 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.400 wife's family of cat people. They like cats. They may 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.720 like him more than they like her brother. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.079 Well that's now, that was the next question, because there 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.160 was the brother there two days later. Because when you 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.079 got to choose between the cat and the brother in 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.239 law versus brother. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.640 Well, he doesn't he I don't think he even puts 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.040 it together like he would have a cat to this day, 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.760 not that one. No, maybe not that one. But but 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.520 that's the thing. People like, we have a cat. I 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.680 am a cat in my house, but I know now 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.160 that that cat is a potential deadly killer. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.800 You could also lose in a hand right or another 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:32.960 appendage of your body. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.120 I would never let a cat bite my peepe you 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:36.560 just oh listen, by the way, I want to talk 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.560 to you about plastic surgery. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.560 Here's the thing that's funny. How he went right from 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.040 his penis the plastic service. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.880 Well, this is the sam there is a thread the 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.040 definitely definitely well, I was thinking, I'm going to get place. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.520 It's about my time. Sixty two now, yeah, and I 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.360 am also you're sixty two or a twenty fourth nineteen nine, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.959 nineteen sixty two, May seventeen. I remember that, remember right, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.800 older than me, so I know a little more about it. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.880 As the camera shows, you look just a little bit over. Well, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.560 that's what I'm saying. But it was great in our 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.280 own mind. But here's the thing. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.760 Sixty two, I think, okay, it's time for some plastic surgery. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.520 I thought I'll start with my testicles. Wait what, well, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.200 I'll get my testicles improved in some. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.160 Way, I don't can. I think they're very plump? Well 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.800 you think no, no symmetric. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.280 Look, I think by the way, I think actually even 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.640 calling them testicles is medically an actorate agree? 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.760 What do you want to call them? Testical and friend? 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:38.320 I heard that just because because let's be honest, it's it's. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.920 Not it's not equal partnership. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.280 It's not it's not law and hardy, it's you know, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.480 it's testical and friend, it's you know, well so, so 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.360 I think what I'd like to do is have it 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.320 put into I'll have the other one built up, and 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.800 then the whole surrounding package smoothed out. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.760 They don't smooth. You don't want that smooth out. That's 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:05.200 got a certain ruga around it, so you have a 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.440 certain skin around it so if you get cold, it 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.320 can retract and help you stay warm. That's why this 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:15.160 has teleologically been selected for over eons of evolution to 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.400 work as well as they work. What do they know 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.160 about it so much? But here's the thing with the population. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.600 But what if I get my testicles, like, maybe get 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.680 some kind of coating put on them so they. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.360 Don't get cold. So we're gonna you want fur coats 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.720 I want to look. I have a kind of threadbare 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.400 fur coat there already. But what I'm saying is silic, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.640 some kind of silicon thing. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.440 Maybe it's best. It's super effective chemical. Yeah, I forget 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.199 these links. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.240 It's a bit cancery, but it's a little Yeah. But 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.560 what I thought i'd do is if I have a 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.679 procedure done on my testicles. First, this is my insurance policy. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.240 If they bought it, it doesn't matter. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.439 It's true because their testicles they look butched already. Nobody 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.360 and nobody sees them. Well, nobody cares, not that you're 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.080 showing testicular cleavage. I mean, it's not a common thing. Well, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.320 you know, he could be. But if that was at 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.560 the Olympics. You saw that thing at the Olympics by 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.200 the guy with the swimming the French guy. No, the 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.640 opening ceremony of the Olympics, they had, Uh, that was outrageous. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.320 It was outraged, mocking. Don't ask Kathy Lee about they 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.560 were mocking the last supper. Yeah, there was a guy 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.080 there with half a pair of pants showing the lower 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.800 hemi aspect of one of his testicles. That's outrageous. It's incredible. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.360 We running here like under underball. Showing under ball, you 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.600 could say underball, I'm a physicians, I'm using some other 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.480 terms saying the same. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.000 I'm just I'm just speaking to the populace people who 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.080 want to understand what's going on medical, you know, like 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.959 the lower pole of the right descended testicle, but you 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.880 couldn't say it the underball, all right, so underball. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.760 So the guy who showed under ball, I saw a 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.640 picture of it. One of the patients was showing it 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.240 to me. They couldn't believe it. That's outrageous. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.040 So look, I figured though, that if I get the 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.640 plastic surgery done, you know, and they butcher, it doesn't matter, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.319 because testicles look like they're botched. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.480 They do. They're one of the most ugliest. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.559 They are the deep sea creature of your pants. There's 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:19.040 no doubt about it. They they are, they're they're they're terrible. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.360 They're not attractive. And anyway, as as a world renowned 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.880 surgeon and doctor, right, well, no team, our team is 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.840 world Your team is the number one lung cancer surgical 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 program again according to the US News and World. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.160 Right right this year this year. Now, first of all, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.080 we're tied tied for the Mayo clinic, the Mayo Clinic 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.080 also good. They're they're pretty good, all right. Our outcomes 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.560 are better, they're their reputation factor. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.600 I have to say for for someone in your line 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.360 and work, outcomes extremely important. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:15:01.680 It kind of matters. It's kind of important. I know 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.640 that the work you do is so do. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:09.400 The work you and your team do right, yes, is 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:17.040 so harrowing, so focused, and so high stakes and such 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.840 a difficult thing to do. And yet over the time 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:25.400 getting to know you, you are a light, easy, cheerful, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.040 upbeat human being. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.600 And I find that fascinating. I appreciate it. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.280 But I'm kind of interested, is to because I know 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:34.320 a little bit about your story. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.200 We talked in the last time. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.160 You got some tragedy in your past, You've got difficulty 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.640 in your own life, and. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.240 All everyone's had challenges, of course. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.560 Of course, but I wonder and what I want to 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.640 talk to you about today was a little bit about 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:54.160 maintaining emotional equilibrium as someone who works in the face 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.800 of death almost every day. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.840 Such a great question, because I would tell you there's 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.000 people listening who do very difficult brain surgery or brain 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.560 aneurysm surgery, or some of our cardiac surgeons that do 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.600 aortic work. We're going to say, this guy's just a 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.600 little robotic lung surgeon. He's not dealing with life and 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.760 death like I'm or people who do other jobs out 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.840 there that are putting themselves at danger. My patient's at danger, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.080 but I'm sitting on a robot. I got my nice 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.720 lucky socks on. I'm comfortable. I'm not a danger like 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.200 people that serve community. So I always look at it 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.440 that way. That I was operating yesterday very blessed. We 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.440 had three or four visitors from other countries and a 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.440 college student and a medical student. And during the operation, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.400 the one guy came over to me and said, you're 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.800 really having fun. I'm like, they pay me to do this. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.040 How lucky am I that I get paid to do this? 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.240 And then to help inspire and teach. A world famous 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.440 guy was there from China, a world famous guy was 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:57.480 there from Spain. The other person was from from France. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.440 What a great honor to be able to have those 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.600 people in our ore. And you're teaching these guys these well, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.640 and they teach us. So I mean it's an exchange 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.960 of ideas because every single one of our visitors does 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.920 something better than we do. If you listen, if you 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.359 listen to them, they all have better ways to do 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:14.760 things than us, every one of them. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.280 This is all very good, doctor, but let's have a 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.399 a let's work with the idea that I am the 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.440 therapist and you. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.000 Okay, I thought we were out of the patient. I 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.720 switch it somehow. I don't bet because I said to. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:30.520 You, how do you maintain emotional equilibrium in the face 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.400 of life and death decisions for other people? Sometimes, yes, 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.600 that you're making And you, doctor told me about all 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.560 the people that do other work. And I think that's 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.880 lovely and noble, but it ain't. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.160 But that's my answer. Really, that actually is my saying 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.639 about other people. I honestly do because I know that 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.720 other people that are doing things that are more dangerous, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.440 right they have a higher like our risk of lung 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.640 our ninety day mortality for long surgy is almost zero now. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.560 When I started, it was two and a half percent. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.560 Now with little incisions and robots and the anaesthesiologists are 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.920 so good, in the nurses and the pulmonologists, it's zero 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.480 our last five years. That's why we're number one in 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.199 US news and will report our outcomes are amazing, and 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.760 that's a credit to the team. But there's things like 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.400 other types of operations that have much higher morbidity immortality. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.480 So to answer your question directly and not evaded, not 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:22.919 to switch therapist patient. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.399 I didn't think you were evade. I think that you are. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.200 I think you are a genuinely upbeat I am nice guys. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.119 It's just my nature. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.080 As I always see the glass half full, of the 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.240 coffee cup right half full. I always have seen it 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.320 that way. I'm so lucky to get to do what 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:46.000 I do. I don't find it stressful. I thrive on competition. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:46.240 You know. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.560 I'm a member of a place I go up to 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.600 on the weekends and I play golf and pickleball, and 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.280 unless it's super close, and unless it comes down to 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.720 the last putt or the last drive in the eighteenth hole, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.800 or the fifth game, I play singles pickleball with a 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.760 couple of incredible athletes who are unbelievably successful, people much 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.359 more successful than me, and it comes down to that 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.199 fifth game, that final point. That is what I thrive on. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:13.040 And I love that, and unfortunately oftentimes I lose. Is 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.760 going to be a nice question, Are you a good loser. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.399