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Speaker 1: And good morning everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is Saturday, January thirty first, and many people got

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Speaker 2: word late yesterday, or you might just be waking up

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Speaker 2: to the news that one of our most beloved, familiar actresses,

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Speaker 2: just a dear, dear lady that everybody knows from Shit's Creek,

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Speaker 2: everybody knows as the mom in Home Alone, Catherine O'Hara,

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Speaker 2: has died at the age of seventy one. And with that,

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Speaker 2: welcome to this Saturday edition of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 1: Robes.

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Speaker 2: Seventy one is young these days. That is not even good.

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Speaker 2: That's not a full life, even it's considered these days.

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Speaker 2: So when you hear seventy one, you go, what in

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Speaker 2: God's name happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: This was This was actually not only shocking but devastating

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Speaker 4: to so many of us who absolutely love Catherine O'Hara

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Speaker 4: and love the laughter and enjoy that she has brought

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Speaker 4: to us for decades now. And yes, I am a

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Speaker 4: huge Shits Creek fan, but I know you love Home

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Speaker 4: Alone and so many of the other incredible beetlejuice. I mean,

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Speaker 4: she has just been an iconic fixture in comedic movies

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Speaker 4: and television for our generation. And I mean my daughter

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Speaker 4: was the first to notify me. She said, no, say

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Speaker 4: it isn't so not Catherine O'Hara. She is a legend,

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Speaker 4: and it's you know, you remember how genius she was,

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Speaker 4: but you also remember how she made you feel.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I didn't necessarily put her in a

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Speaker 2: category of is a comedy legend. I think it's home

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Speaker 2: alone because she was hilarious in the movie, but there

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Speaker 2: was a charm and a motherly quality to her that

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Speaker 2: you kind of made her so endearing just as a

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Speaker 2: motherly figure, and you didn't necessarily see a comedian performing

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Speaker 2: that was brilliant. And I'm talking out as I read

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Speaker 2: more and more about her, they talk about how she

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Speaker 2: put so much time and effort into being quirky, into

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Speaker 2: being different, and it came through. But that's why I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, comedy legend. Oh that's right, she's fucking hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I mean and you know, I love how you just

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Speaker 4: put that, because I was going to say her comedy

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Speaker 4: seemed effortless, but that speaks to the effort that went

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Speaker 3: That's how it came across.

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Speaker 4: And I think what resonated so much with fans is Yes,

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Speaker 4: her individuality. She wasn't following anyone else, she wasn't being

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Speaker 4: like anyone else. She was so uniquely herself, and it's

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Speaker 4: something I think we all aspire to have the confidence

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Speaker 4: to do and become. She was that, and she embodied that,

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Speaker 4: and it was She absolutely was someone to look up

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Speaker 2: And I think I've always admired folks who make something

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Speaker 2: look so easy that you don't realize how hard it is.

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Speaker 2: She was one the news anchors I've seen before. People

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Speaker 2: don't even realize how much effort goes into that performance.

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Speaker 2: They just think it shows up and it's natural. Know

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Speaker 2: she puts much work into it, but this is what

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Speaker 2: we know right now, folks again passed away at the

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Speaker 2: age of seventy one. Apparently there was a call to

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Speaker 2: her home for a medical emergency at around four forty

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Speaker 2: eight am local time there in California. Authorities got there.

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Speaker 2: According to LA Fire Out there there was a brief illness.

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Speaker 2: This is according to her agency. Actually this was a

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Speaker 2: brief illness that she had, but she was taken to

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Speaker 2: age of seventy one. At this moment ropes. That's all

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Speaker 2: we know. But we also know that this is a

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Speaker 2: woman that in recent days or weeks or years, she

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Speaker 2: she was having. So this came out of nowhere. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize roe she missed the globes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't either, because I was actually looking at

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Speaker 4: the most recent photos of her, and the last one

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Speaker 4: I believe was in September, and she did look noticeably thinner.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that had anything to do with

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Speaker 4: for her. I think that is why it is so shocking.

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Speaker 4: I said to you, oh my god, Catherine O'Hara and

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Speaker 4: it's a reminder just how quickly in a moment everything

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Speaker 4: can change. We have our parents, like my parents are

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Speaker 3: I always say my parents are so young, they're seventy two.

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Speaker 4: But to see this, it jars you into reality that

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Speaker 4: no one is We're all impermanent, and it's just this

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Speaker 4: is a moment to honor her and try to figure

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Speaker 4: you say, wow, we all need to just be kinder,

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Speaker 3: On this earth, and just enjoy our lives. And she

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Speaker 3: did that by all accounts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we those reminders you talk about, we get him,

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Speaker 2: it seems often, but we don't heed those warnings. And

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Speaker 2: we don't heed those reminders, it seems. And again you

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Speaker 2: juxtaposed this with what's going on around the country and

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Speaker 2: robes where there are very few things that bring us

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Speaker 2: a woman who has reached I don't know how they

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Speaker 2: do it, but we have some entertainers that are just beloved.

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Speaker 2: No matter who you are, they touched your life in

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Speaker 2: some way, It does not matter. I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: argue Rob Ryner a lot of people upset with his

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Speaker 2: and what he did touched everything and everybody. I think

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly just beloved. Yes, he's our guy, like everybody just

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Speaker 2: embraces him.

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Speaker 1: She was one.

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Speaker 2: I think Diane Keaton was one. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: they do it, but she is just a treasure I.

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Speaker 3: Know, And you're right.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think about that, but you it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: who you voted for or what you think about. Like

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Speaker 4: everybody can put on Shit's Creek and laugh their butts

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Speaker 4: off because they just nailed it.

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Speaker 3: They were able to resonate with everybody.

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Speaker 4: That is such an unbelievable talent and skill to be

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Speaker 2: We'll go through Shit's Creek, Beetlejuice Home alone recently in

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Speaker 2: the studio. Yes, you're singing it, so these that's like

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Speaker 2: four decades of icons yep, right, those are iconic things.

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Speaker 2: There's nobody listening to me who is not impacted by

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Speaker 2: shame because I think the point on the Studio, which

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Speaker 2: back for another season and we just started watching that

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Speaker 2: show and she is a hot, big booty, hilarious, intense

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Speaker 4: She plays a hot mess so well, I think that

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Speaker 3: That was kind of her go to.

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Speaker 4: She had different versions of it in different characters, but

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Speaker 4: she was and I think maybe that's what we all

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Speaker 4: related to because inside, don't we all feel like a

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Speaker 3: But she was able to elevate a.

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Speaker 4: Hot mess in a way where you're like, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: I loved what she brought.

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Speaker 4: She she made everybody around her better too. She played

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Speaker 4: which she often did, but it was in conjunction with

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Speaker 4: her had nothing but high praise for her throughout her life.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, also, she was private.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even realize that she had two sons, and

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Speaker 4: comedic roles. The heart of what she brought to those roles,

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Speaker 2: It was probably something that that was something relatable about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a mother working her ass off, doing her best,

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Speaker 2: and you did it twice actually, but there was I

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Speaker 2: don't know. That role was the one that I think

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Speaker 2: and it was set after that. Just seventy one is

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this contributed, and nobody is suggesting that,

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Speaker 4: had a congenital heart condition. It was called cardia in

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Speaker 4: She always had to be aware. I guess there were

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Speaker 3: She said that also helped her live differently.

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Speaker 4: Knowing that she had this condition made her more aware

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Speaker 2: And again, there was no no suggestion right now that

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Speaker 2: saying that she died after a brief illness. Now you

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Speaker 2: did mention her husband. She actually met him on the

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Speaker 2: set of Beatle Juice. He's a set designer and I

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Speaker 2: think he's an Oscar nominated, Yes, set designer. But they

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Speaker 2: met in nineteen ninety two, got married, have two sons,

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Speaker 2: Luke and Matthew, ages twenty eight and thirty two, respectively.

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Speaker 2: Now I did not know this about here, about her Rose,

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Speaker 2: but you say her name, and the first thing I

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Speaker 2: attached next to her is Eugene Levy. Yes, the first

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Speaker 2: thing I do. I didn't realize they went back as

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Speaker 2: far as they did, fifty years they have been together

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Speaker 2: and started at a legendary comedy troupe in Canada.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize. That's a beautiful story, you know.

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Speaker 4: And when you look at someone's life and you see

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Speaker 4: these long lasting friendships, like five decades of friendship and

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Speaker 4: how they value relationships, which again makes me just.

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Speaker 3: Love her even more.

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Speaker 4: But Second City SETV, they have so many legends that

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Speaker 4: among them. Yes, with Eugene Levy, I mean those two

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Speaker 4: She played Moira Rose and look, I could never begin

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Speaker 4: But she said, this is how she described her, a

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