WEBVTT - DONKEY: Volunteer Firefighter Arrested For Fighting A Fire He Allegedly Set

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<v Speaker 1>I was donkey up to today time. Damn he hogged.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for Donkey to day.

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<v Speaker 3>I me ain't trying to be donkey today no more.

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<v Speaker 3>They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not making these people do these things called Donkey of

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<v Speaker 3>the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really caught me off guard.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn Charlomagne, who got the donkey out of day to day?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, jess hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>Donkey Today for Thursday, November sixteenth goes to thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>year old Joseph Halder. I think I say pronounced his name,

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<v Speaker 3>A volunteer firefighter from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those ones that caused me to reflect

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<v Speaker 3>a little. And in my reflection, I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if humans are as insane as Donkey of

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<v Speaker 3>the Day makes them out to be. Maybe I need

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<v Speaker 3>to give humans the benefit of the doubt, bore and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just me. You're the guy who does Donkey of

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<v Speaker 3>to Day, so you choose to seek out this crazy

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<v Speaker 3>every day. And since I choose to seek out this

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<v Speaker 3>crazy every day, I attracted crazy by way of stories. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>people send me these things and I read them, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe them. So I read them again and

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<v Speaker 3>I still can't believe them. Then I check out the

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<v Speaker 3>saurces to make sure that these stories are real because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe them. And every morning we end up here,

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<v Speaker 3>same donkey time, same donkey channel. Today is really no exception.

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<v Speaker 3>Salute to all the public servants out there, all the

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who realize that your true purpose in life is

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<v Speaker 3>service to others, dropping the clues bombs for those individuals.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you, Joseph, it is a volunteer filler for firefighter.

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<v Speaker 3>Volunteer firefighters are absolutely public servants. Being a volunteer firefighter

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely an active service. But do you ever think

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<v Speaker 3>to yourself, well, what if you're a firefighter and there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do, nobody to serve. What if you're a

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<v Speaker 3>firefighter and there's no fires to fight because there is

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<v Speaker 3>no fires? Have you ever thought about that? Well, Joseph has,

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<v Speaker 3>and he also had a solution. Let's go to WSB

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<v Speaker 3>channel two for the report.

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<v Speaker 2>Police is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Third such structured fighter in the area in a short

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<v Speaker 4>amount of time, which by yourself, is kind of suspicious.

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<v Speaker 4>A volunteer firefighter for the Whitefish Township Fire Department was

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<v Speaker 4>officially charged today for setting a building on fire Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Joseph Halder was a firefighter on the department for only

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<v Speaker 4>a few months. Today he stepped in front of a

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<v Speaker 4>judge for arson. Halder is accused of setting fire to

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<v Speaker 4>the building that used to house Ruth's Gift Shop in

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<v Speaker 4>downtown Paradise. Chipwall County Sheriff Mike Bittner was on the

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<v Speaker 4>scene moments after the call came in. He immediately looked

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<v Speaker 4>over surveillance footage from a gas station across the street.

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<v Speaker 4>A short time later, deputies arrested Halder while he was

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<v Speaker 4>fighting the fire. Helder is charged with third degree arson.

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<v Speaker 4>He's facing ten years in prison and a twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Only you can prevent firefighters, firefires. What am I trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say? Forest fires? There?

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<v Speaker 2>You go, okay, firefighters, right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right. Only you can prevent forest fires. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know how you prevent them by not starting them yourself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>starting in my life. This is a literal, physical, tangible

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<v Speaker 3>example of what self destruction looks like. See when you

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<v Speaker 3>start going to therapy right and doing the work on

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<v Speaker 3>yourself and start healing some of these traumas. When you

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<v Speaker 3>get to the place in your life where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you start feeling pockets to peace, when you start feeling

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<v Speaker 3>genuine happiness, When you feel joy, you will find a

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<v Speaker 3>way to start a fire. This man started a fire

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<v Speaker 3>and then showed up to put out the fire that

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<v Speaker 3>he helped start. I promise you this is the version

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<v Speaker 3>of me that I run from. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>start any fires, especially when things are peaceful. When things

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<v Speaker 3>are peaceful, I want them to remain peaceful. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to go grab a canister something flammable, some fire

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<v Speaker 3>and set things aflame just because I'm not used to peace.

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<v Speaker 3>This man, Joseph, was looking for chaos. He was working

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<v Speaker 3>with the fire department for just a few months, and

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted action so much so that he started a

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<v Speaker 3>fire himself and then went to help put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I know people like this right now in corporate America.

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<v Speaker 3>I know people like this right now in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>They will create a problem themselves just so they can

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<v Speaker 3>have something to do, just so they have something to fix.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something. When you have to do

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<v Speaker 3>things like that in order to feel like you did

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<v Speaker 3>something then you need to do some internal work on yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>because that don't make any damn sense, all right. Paul

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<v Speaker 3>Sloan says, the innovative leader has to be an arsonist

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<v Speaker 3>and a firefighter. But I don't think he meant that literally, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>nor Joseph through I believe you are an innovative leader.

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<v Speaker 3>And did you know that? Roughly it's a fun little

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<v Speaker 3>snap effect. Roughly one hundred firefighters are convicted of arson

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<v Speaker 3>each year. It's called firefighter arsen true story. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a very small minority of firefighters who are also active arsonists.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what they say motivates these people boredom okay,

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<v Speaker 3>are by the prospect of receiving attention for responding to

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<v Speaker 3>the fires. They have said. Sound familiar. Okay, I told

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<v Speaker 3>y'all earlier this week. I don't mind as the Devil's workshop.

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<v Speaker 3>These folks really don't be having anything to do. This

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<v Speaker 3>is truly the era that has everything and absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 3>all at once, and that is because the things you

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<v Speaker 3>all crave aren't real. You got all these followers on

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<v Speaker 3>social media, but no real connection to nobody. You log

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<v Speaker 3>on every day to a community that's not even a

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<v Speaker 3>real community. You're seeking validation and attention and likes and

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<v Speaker 3>retweets and engagement. None of it is real and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why you're bored and you resort to doing dumb sneak

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<v Speaker 3>of doodles. That's a bet edit like Joseph did. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph is facing up to ten years in prison and

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty thousand dollars fine, and he's a person of

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<v Speaker 3>interest and at least two other fires in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Some donkey today is just sell themselves. Please let me

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<v Speaker 3>remind give Joseph Handler the biggest e huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Hee ha hee ha.

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<v Speaker 1>You stupid motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you dumb?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you'll be doing this snicker doodles. And

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<v Speaker 3>don't be Joseph Hadler. Okay, don't start a fire just

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<v Speaker 3>to have something to do. Not only that, there's some

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<v Speaker 3>of us who will set ourselves on fire to keep

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<v Speaker 3>others warm. That means you put other people's knees in

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<v Speaker 3>front of your own. You do know that's not sustainable, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>just so we're clear, All right, Well, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>that donkey today, sir. Now when we come back, well,

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<v Speaker 3>first be et, we'll see them all piece be et.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when we come back. Jada Pikett Smith. She was

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<v Speaker 1>on the show last time. We spoke to it for

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<v Speaker 1>what over an hour?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, we spoke to it for our.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole conversation is on YouTube, by the way, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You cans into it right now, watch it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>She talked about in relationships and in marriages, having friends

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<v Speaker 1>with the opposite sex, and this is what she actually said.

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<v Speaker 1>When Will was up here, he talked about being insecure

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Tupac. Did y'all ever have that conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>Because as a man, when you're a little insecure, I

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<v Speaker 1>almost feel like you play both sides. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>be yourself, but you want to show that you're better

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<v Speaker 1>than the person that's making him insecured. Did y'all ever

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<v Speaker 1>have that conversation?

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say that we had conversations in that way.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just like, you know, we came up in

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<v Speaker 5>the era where it was so unusual for a man

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<v Speaker 5>and a woman to be friends. In our era, that

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<v Speaker 5>was just like friends.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to be dating.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like what what? Right? And so I think for

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<v Speaker 5>him it was just like getting your mind around around that, know,

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<v Speaker 5>and that the kind of friendship that we had because

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<v Speaker 5>we had such a you know, tight friendship that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>was very impactful on my life.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's discuss eight hundred five eight five

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five to one. When you're in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay for your spouse or your significant other

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<v Speaker 1>to have friends of the opposite sex, Not.

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<v Speaker 3>Even just in marriage, but in life. You can have

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<v Speaker 3>platonic friendships like I got Wave homegirls and I got homeboys,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of times, a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 3>are grandfathered in, like you know, y'all been friends forever,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like and another thing Jada

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<v Speaker 3>said during that conversation, she was like, she didn't say,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not talking about new people, talking about people that

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<v Speaker 3>have been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it kind of helps you too, like in your relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>to have friends that are of the opposite sex. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you vent or not tell them your you know,

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<v Speaker 2>personal business, but when you tell them what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>they give you a perspective that your significant other might

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<v Speaker 2>have and kind of balance it out. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of yes man about yo, I feel you,

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<v Speaker 2>bro you No, I don't feel you. You messed up?

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<v Speaker 1>Or it can hurt. You know, like Charlemagne said, no

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<v Speaker 1>new friends, no new people coming around that if the

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<v Speaker 1>individual is a new then we all friends. We all speak.

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<v Speaker 2>But it ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't a situation where you just speak to my

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<v Speaker 1>wife or I just speak to her. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>We all friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But even old friendships should still be we all friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's discuss eight hundred and five eight five,

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five one. What are your thoughts? Phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.