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Speaker 1: I was donkey up to today time. Damn he hogged.

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Speaker 2: It's time for Donkey to day.

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Speaker 3: I me ain't trying to be donkey today no more.

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Speaker 3: They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm

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Speaker 3: not making these people do these things called Donkey of

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 1: And it really caught me off guard.

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Speaker 3: Damn Charlomagne, who got the donkey out of day to day?

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Speaker 1: Wow, jess hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Donkey Today for Thursday, November sixteenth goes to thirty five

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Speaker 3: year old Joseph Halder. I think I say pronounced his name,

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Speaker 3: A volunteer firefighter from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. This

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Speaker 3: is one of those ones that caused me to reflect

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Speaker 3: a little. And in my reflection, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if humans are as insane as Donkey of

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Speaker 3: the Day makes them out to be. Maybe I need

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Speaker 3: to give humans the benefit of the doubt, bore and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: it's just me. You're the guy who does Donkey of

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Speaker 3: to Day, so you choose to seek out this crazy

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Speaker 3: every day. And since I choose to seek out this

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Speaker 3: crazy every day, I attracted crazy by way of stories. Okay,

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Speaker 3: people send me these things and I read them, and

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Speaker 3: I can't believe them. So I read them again and

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Speaker 3: I still can't believe them. Then I check out the

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Speaker 3: saurces to make sure that these stories are real because

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Speaker 3: I don't believe them. And every morning we end up here,

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Speaker 3: same donkey time, same donkey channel. Today is really no exception.

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Speaker 3: Salute to all the public servants out there, all the

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Speaker 3: individuals who realize that your true purpose in life is

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Speaker 3: service to others, dropping the clues bombs for those individuals.

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Speaker 3: I told you, Joseph, it is a volunteer filler for firefighter.

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Speaker 3: Volunteer firefighters are absolutely public servants. Being a volunteer firefighter

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Speaker 3: is absolutely an active service. But do you ever think

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Speaker 3: to yourself, well, what if you're a firefighter and there's

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Speaker 3: nothing to do, nobody to serve. What if you're a

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Speaker 3: firefighter and there's no fires to fight because there is

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Speaker 3: no fires? Have you ever thought about that? Well, Joseph has,

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Speaker 3: and he also had a solution. Let's go to WSB

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Speaker 2: Police is the.

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Speaker 4: Third such structured fighter in the area in a short

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Speaker 4: amount of time, which by yourself, is kind of suspicious.

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Speaker 4: A volunteer firefighter for the Whitefish Township Fire Department was

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Speaker 4: officially charged today for setting a building on fire Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: Joseph Halder was a firefighter on the department for only

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Speaker 4: a few months. Today he stepped in front of a

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Speaker 4: judge for arson. Halder is accused of setting fire to

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Speaker 4: scene moments after the call came in. He immediately looked

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Speaker 4: A short time later, deputies arrested Halder while he was

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Speaker 4: fighting the fire. Helder is charged with third degree arson.

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Speaker 4: He's facing ten years in prison and a twenty thousand

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Speaker 3: Only you can prevent firefighters, firefires. What am I trying

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Speaker 3: to say? Forest fires? There?

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Speaker 2: You go, okay, firefighters, right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. Only you can prevent forest fires. And

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Speaker 3: you know how you prevent them by not starting them yourself. Okay,

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Speaker 3: starting in my life. This is a literal, physical, tangible

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Speaker 3: example of what self destruction looks like. See when you

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Speaker 3: start going to therapy right and doing the work on

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Speaker 3: yourself and start healing some of these traumas. When you

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Speaker 3: get to the place in your life where you know,

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Speaker 3: you start feeling pockets to peace, when you start feeling

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Speaker 3: genuine happiness, When you feel joy, you will find a

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Speaker 3: way to start a fire. This man started a fire

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Speaker 3: and then showed up to put out the fire that

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Speaker 3: start any fires, especially when things are peaceful. When things

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Speaker 3: are peaceful, I want them to remain peaceful. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to go grab a canister something flammable, some fire

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Speaker 3: and set things aflame just because I'm not used to peace.

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Speaker 3: This man, Joseph, was looking for chaos. He was working

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Speaker 3: I know people like this right now in corporate America.

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Speaker 3: I know people like this right now in my life.

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Speaker 3: They will create a problem themselves just so they can

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. When you have to do

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Speaker 3: things like that in order to feel like you did

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Speaker 3: because that don't make any damn sense, all right. Paul

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Speaker 3: Sloan says, the innovative leader has to be an arsonist

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Speaker 3: nor Joseph through I believe you are an innovative leader.

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Speaker 3: And did you know that? Roughly it's a fun little

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Speaker 3: snap effect. Roughly one hundred firefighters are convicted of arson

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Speaker 3: each year. It's called firefighter arsen true story. There is

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Speaker 3: a very small minority of firefighters who are also active arsonists.

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Speaker 3: And guess what they say motivates these people boredom okay,

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Speaker 3: are by the prospect of receiving attention for responding to

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Speaker 3: the fires. They have said. Sound familiar. Okay, I told

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Speaker 3: These folks really don't be having anything to do. This

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Speaker 3: all at once, and that is because the things you

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Speaker 3: all crave aren't real. You got all these followers on

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Speaker 3: social media, but no real connection to nobody. You log

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Speaker 3: on every day to a community that's not even a

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Speaker 3: real community. You're seeking validation and attention and likes and

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Speaker 3: retweets and engagement. None of it is real and that's

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Speaker 3: why you're bored and you resort to doing dumb sneak

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Speaker 3: of doodles. That's a bet edit like Joseph did. Now,

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Speaker 3: Joseph is facing up to ten years in prison and

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Speaker 3: interest and at least two other fires in the area.

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Speaker 3: Some donkey today is just sell themselves. Please let me

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Speaker 3: remind give Joseph Handler the biggest e huh.

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Speaker 4: Hee ha hee ha.

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Speaker 1: You stupid motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Are you dumb?

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you'll be doing this snicker doodles. And

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Speaker 3: don't be Joseph Hadler. Okay, don't start a fire just

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Speaker 3: of us who will set ourselves on fire to keep

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Speaker 3: others warm. That means you put other people's knees in

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Speaker 3: front of your own. You do know that's not sustainable, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: just so we're clear, All right, Well, thank you for

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Speaker 3: that donkey today, sir. Now when we come back, well,

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Speaker 3: first be et, we'll see them all piece be et.

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Speaker 1: Now, when we come back. Jada Pikett Smith. She was

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Speaker 1: what over an hour?

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, we spoke to it for our.

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Speaker 3: Whole conversation is on YouTube, by the way, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You cans into it right now, watch it right now.

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Speaker 1: She talked about in relationships and in marriages, having friends

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Speaker 1: When Will was up here, he talked about being insecure

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Tupac. Did y'all ever have that conversation?

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Speaker 1: Because as a man, when you're a little insecure, I

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that we had conversations in that way.

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Speaker 5: It was just like, you know, we came up in

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Speaker 5: the era where it was so unusual for a man

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Speaker 1: They had to be dating.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like what what? Right? And so I think for

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Speaker 5: him it was just like getting your mind around around that, know,

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's discuss eight hundred five eight five

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Speaker 1: one oh five to one. When you're in a relationship,

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Speaker 1: is it okay for your spouse or your significant other

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Speaker 1: to have friends of the opposite sex, Not.

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Speaker 3: Even just in marriage, but in life. You can have

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Speaker 3: and a lot of times, a lot of these people

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like and another thing Jada

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Speaker 3: we're not talking about new people, talking about people that

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Speaker 2: And it kind of helps you too, like in your relationship,

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Speaker 2: when you vent or not tell them your you know,

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Speaker 2: personal business, but when you tell them what's going on,

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Speaker 2: they give you a perspective that your significant other might

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Speaker 2: have and kind of balance it out. You don't have

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Speaker 2: bro you No, I don't feel you. You messed up?

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Speaker 1: Or it can hurt. You know, like Charlemagne said, no

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Speaker 2: But it ain't.

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Speaker 1: It ain't a situation where you just speak to my

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Speaker 1: We all friends.

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Speaker 2: But even old friendships should still be we all friends.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's discuss eight hundred and five eight five,

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Speaker 1: one oh five one. What are your thoughts? Phone lines

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Speaker 1: wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.