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Speaker 1: Advice.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Naughty of an I Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, and it is Thursday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Loopy. Mark Lupo joins us he LUPI, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Lewis here?

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Speaker 1: Last week Lupy lou I got a frantic text from Australia.

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Speaker 1: A friend of ours was listening to the show A

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Speaker 1: noughty helloa Loallo and they know you Mark. It's our

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Speaker 1: friend Dylan, but he had never heard you. He never

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Speaker 1: knew you as Loopy and now he's obsessed with Loopy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with Dylan as well, equally.

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Speaker 1: Obsessed, obsessed with it. It's lovely. I forget and I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that I'm not grateful. It's just that

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Speaker 1: we do these in our closet. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: success of this show. I feel like I'm just sitting

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Speaker 1: with you having a drink and not necessarily taping recording

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Speaker 1: a show. And so when we get texts or emails

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Speaker 1: or people say they're listening, particularly in different countries, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: I love writting.

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Speaker 3: The comments too from people from other countries, and they

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Speaker 3: chime in it really were global global.

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Speaker 1: We've got global mark. I should have to think. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. We have a ton of Harry

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Speaker 1: stories at the top of the show. So the format

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Speaker 1: might be slightly different today because we're going to get

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Speaker 1: all these Harry stories in because that trial is ongoing.

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Speaker 1: So Harry was reprimanded on the stand well in a

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Speaker 1: hated moment. So he was basically told off by counsel

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Speaker 1: during the second day of testimony after he responded to

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Speaker 1: an official question with his own question. Can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You've got to answer the question. So Harry asked, are

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Speaker 1: you suggesting that while I was in the army that

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Speaker 1: everything was available for the press to write about? And

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Speaker 1: the lawyer shot back, can I just repleat? This isn't

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Speaker 1: about you asking me questions. It's about me asking you questions.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be difficult. Harry has had a very privileged life.

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Speaker 1: He's not used to people really telling him what to do.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine at school he got a special pass.

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Speaker 1: I imagine in life things have come very easy to him.

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Speaker 1: We know these people, we know Bossy Boots, you know

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Speaker 1: these people that work around you, maybe they're even in

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Speaker 1: your own family, and they don't like being put on

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Speaker 1: the spartan. Most of their lives they are never put

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Speaker 1: in a position like this. Harry put himself in this position,

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Speaker 1: and now these are the rules. There's no special rules

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Speaker 1: because he's a prince. What must it be like for

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Speaker 1: him having to sit on the stand and have to

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Speaker 2: I would imagine Rob. But the wheels are slowly.

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Speaker 3: Turning now and he's realizing that this is not going

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Speaker 3: to be as easy as I thought it would be.

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Speaker 3: And this is more room. Where are the rules apply

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Speaker 3: to all of us? And I am not above them?

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Speaker 3: And that must be difficult, the difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think he went into this thinking it was another

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Speaker 1: interview with Oprah right just as I sat down, or

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Speaker 1: another interview for one of their friends. This is not

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Speaker 1: and being cross examined. I don't know if it's ever

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Speaker 1: happened to you. I was once on a jury and

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Speaker 1: I loved watching it, although I did have to give

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Speaker 1: It was so different. And I'm quite a bossy boots,

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Speaker 1: and I'm used to being in control of my own environment.

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Speaker 1: I was totally out of control. It was a few hours.

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Speaker 1: Harry was on the stand yesterday for eight hours. Mine

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Speaker 1: which brings us to our pole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry was reprimanded on the stand as things got

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Speaker 1: very hated. Could you keep your cool in court? Could

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Speaker 1: you keep your cool in court? I'd start, I think

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Speaker 1: I'd lose it. Go vote on our Twitter page, act Robert,

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Speaker 1: our Facebook page and already gossip and be sure to

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Speaker 1: check back tomorrow before a handover to you, Mark. We're

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Speaker 1: going to fly through the rest of these Harry Harry news.

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Speaker 1: There's lots of it. So Harry said he would feel

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Speaker 1: injustice if he lost the case. So just to remind everybody,

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Speaker 1: he said the Mirror group newspapers were involved in hacking

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Speaker 1: So it's such a clever question. He got a little

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Speaker 3: I was once an injured and so that was the

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Speaker 3: I can imagine how one question can trip you up,

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Speaker 2: Yes, it just falls apart.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so wild to watch it. I wish she

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Speaker 1: was televised. If this was in America, this would be

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Speaker 1: better than the Gwenda Peltro trial. Oh I watch every

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Speaker 1: Who've got a sketch of Harry? This is where it

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Speaker 1: got quite emotional for me. Harry recalls the hurtful headlines

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Speaker 1: when he spilit up with Chelsea Davy. Do you remember her?

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought he was going to marry her, beautiful blonde girl,

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Speaker 1: She did, she didn't want to be under this spotlight

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Speaker 1: the choice to dumb Paris. It's so interesting. I would

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Speaker 1: Know, live your life. What gets difficult for carry here

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Speaker 1: is that it was a very emotional couple of love days.

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Speaker 1: And I believe all those emotions were true, but emotions

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Speaker 1: So part of his proof is that when stories leaked

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Speaker 1: in the Palace, and I'm sure he thinks that. But Mark,

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Speaker 1: we've worked in the celebrity business, the gossip business for

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Speaker 1: a very long time. You tell somebody, they tell somebody,

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Speaker 1: I describe it like dropping a stone into a puddle

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Speaker 1: of water, and the rings go out and out and out,

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Speaker 1: my phone literally rings. It's not as instant in my

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Speaker 1: experience as you do something. Mark. You have a breakup,

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Speaker 1: God forbid, and you call me or the person you

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Speaker 1: you and me get the tip. It's not that I

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Speaker 1: We always tell one person, and that one person is

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Speaker 1: not the problem. It's who they tell. And that's how

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Speaker 1: my stories getting to the media. Your experience Mark as

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Speaker 1: How did you find out? Without giving away names of

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Speaker 1: your sources, but what was the process? How did stories

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Speaker 3: That's a great question, you know, that's and to your point,

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Speaker 3: there's this ripple effect, and it might be the bartender

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Speaker 3: not proven or shown any facts that there is a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to prove it, you know, in court,

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Speaker 1: you've got to have evidence, and court's not about emotion.

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Speaker 1: Court is about evidence. And I don't think Harry has

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Speaker 1: It's not my world. I don't understand all that technology.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's another way hacking someone's phone is illegal.

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Speaker 1: And it's very, very very dramatic. What the Mirror group

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Speaker 1: We got the information from sources and often you, Harry,

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Speaker 1: But if I'm smart enough to shut up for a minute,

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Speaker 1: people tell you stuff. I've been at drinks with people

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Speaker 1: Mark and they've slipped in a bombshell in the middle

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Speaker 3: And you know the thing with reporting, Robin, I think

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Speaker 3: you know this well. People love talking about themselves, right,

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Speaker 3: and so if you just sit back and be quiet,

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Speaker 3: don't have to do anything but just let it happen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and you see things randomly. I remember once

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Speaker 1: Gwenneth Paltrow came to Botino's and she didn't have a reservation.

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Speaker 1: It was a really busy night, and they didn't give

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Speaker 1: I saw it. But if you asked Gweneth, like how

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Speaker 1: I like the expression fake it till you make it,

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Speaker 1: I pray, Mark, You're gonna fail ten times today. Says terrible,

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