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Speaker 1: I was really really struck by that this time watching it, like, oh, look,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder you know how you've talked about like

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Speaker 5: It was black Honey. Finally mine was ginger cookie. Go

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Speaker 1: or the episode where Thron takes her Caligry. We learned

434
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: how she met him, but I believe he was in

435
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: a downed wing and befriended or Harra took him from that.

436
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: Jac's going to have to help me.

437
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: And was that pre or post meeting Canaan.

438
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: That's pre I believe. And still Canaan gets to be

439
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: spect one dude. Here's the thing. If we get caught,

440
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: I need him to look like he's number one and

441
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: Chopper is not going to be ahead of me. Correct

442
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: so it just had to be that way it. Chopper

443
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: would love that. Chopper thinks that he should be Yeah,

444
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: but I but I believe they they have been together

445
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: for quite some time, uh, I and I And I'm

446
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: not sure if it if we've figured all this out

447
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: in Bad Match or in that scene. Actually it may

448
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: have been in season three when we get a sense

449
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: of her family in the Calakori.

450
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out or we'll find out at

451
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: the end of this episode. Although as you were just

452
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: saying that, it reminded me of that excellent fan question

453
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: we had last episode or a couple episodes ago, when

454
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: we came up with this idea that we have to

455
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: do a prequel to talk about there. You know, how

456
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: did how did these all? How did these guys all

457
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: meet and come together as the Ghost Crew? And I

458
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: wonder jac unless unless any of you guys know the answer,

459
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: but I don't think we do. I wonder it is

460
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: that information Does it exist? Like like maybe not the

461
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: full fleshed out stories, but like.

462
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: The books.

463
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in the books or in the whatever extended universe?

464
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: Do those do those things exist?

465
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: Of?

466
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: Like?

467
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so is it briefly mentioned somewhere like Zeb, this

468
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: is how Zeb comes to Harara and Canaan and Schopper

469
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like, I'm just curious if that, if any

470
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: of those nuggets of information exist anywhere.

471
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: But also if, okay not if when the prequel thing happens,

472
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 4: that there should be a whole episode in terms of

473
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: how the Specter Order came to be and like why

474
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: Cane is number one, whether it's like, oh, they had

475
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: the pod race for it and Kara let him win,

476
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 4: you know sort of thing.

477
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: It was like a Sabbat game and like, you know, yeah,

478
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: that would be we got to make this happen.

479
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Guys, just so much to tell. I thought Felony always

480
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: said that Harah made him number one so that he

481
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: and purposely didn't tell him anything, so that if he

482
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: was captured and tortured, he had nothing to reveal. But

483
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: he looks like the one to question, not me. I

484
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 1: kind of love him.

485
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: That makes a lot of sense.

486
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: And he did, didn't he get captured And the end

487
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: of last season, yeah, he did say anything.

488
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: And Harrah literally says he doesn't know anything.

489
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's perfect.

490
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: It's like disked from the actual mastermind of the whole operations.

491
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: Out through the whole thing. Every time Steve. Now it's

492
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: a joke, but he is so many of the Stormtroopers yeah,

493
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: all the time. Like it throws me off, like because

494
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: we just know Steve so well. But it's so funny

495
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: how many times he shows up and like not just

496
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: like screaming and dying, like having full scene. Oh yeah,

497
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: the whole Jedi mind trick, which was very fun for

498
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 3: me because maybe that was the only connection I had

499
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: to Star Wars as a kid, Like we all did that,

500
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: Like it was Matilda, Matilda, Yeah, Matilda and Star Wars.

501
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: Like I remember trying to do that on people and

502
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 3: it failing, So this was like right in line with it.

503
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: But when he's doing that might be his first try

504
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: at it, and then Canaan does it successfully and it's like,

505
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: why does mine work like that?

506
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: And then he says, I I wish it worked on you.

507
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: That worked on me. I wish that worked for me.

508
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: And then he goes, I wish that worked on you.

509
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Steve has like a hole back and forth.

510
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: He's the Trooper through it, and it's just I don't know,

511
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: it cracks me up because he must have played like

512
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: thirty Stormtroopers in the show totally.

513
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: And so I feel like sometimes Steve Stormtrooper Steve is

514
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: interacting with zeb Steve, and those are the best ones

515
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 2: because you're.

516
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: Like, this guy, well can't he do? Like it's amazing.

517
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: It's such a fun little easter egg for me in

518
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: this In these rewatch you know, rewatching these episodes, it's like, oh.

519
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: That's Steve. Ope, that's also Steve. Oh, those two stormtroopers

520
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: are both Steep. This one I had a lot of

521
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: D moments because D was that creature who brings to

522
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: a Joe old Joe. That was D Yeah, and I

523
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't know. Yeah. And then he's a bunch of Imperial

524
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: officers as well. Of course he is no dude, the

525
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: two of them. I'm telling you.

526
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: I always am like, if you just just stick D

527
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: and Steve in a room together, you know, like whose

528
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: line is it?

529
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: Anyway is that?

530
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: But like just let him get in a room together

531
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: or on a stage really so we can watch and

532
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: just D and Steve get out, you know, like the voices,

533
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: the sounds, the like mimicry, the accents like that. It

534
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: could go on forever, indefinitely. Those guys are just I

535
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: think it blows my mind. I've known them for so

536
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: long and I've seen them do so much, and yet

537
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: when I see them do what they do and at

538
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: the level that they do it at, it's just so

539
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: awe inspiring, really truly.

540
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: Okay, that is an amazing idea to you, and I

541
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: know we've been hinting at it again. We want to

542
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: make this happen everybody. We don't know when, but it

543
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: will happen at some point when when we do live shows.

544
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: I feel like one of the things we do, we

545
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: do whose line is its segment with like the James

546
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: Arnold Taylor's, the Dee Bradley Bakers and the Steve Blooms

547
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: and we get topics from the audience. I was like,

548
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: all right, here's the topic and have them do like

549
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: a UCB style long form improv and like they're one

550
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: thousand voices. Well problem, Like we can count the amount

551
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: of voices they do and like the five minutes span,

552
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: it'll probably be in the high hundreds easily.

553
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

554
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: I love that.

555
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

556
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're adding that to the segment. Okay, so

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: live show is coming soon ish, I don't know when.

558
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: But like when you were saying that the wheels of

559
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: my head were turning. Oh my god, like, yeah, get

560
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: them on stage. Let's do this in front of an

561
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: audience and let the audience feed them topics and let them,

562
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 4: you know, dictate what the story is. And yeah, you

563
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 4: get those guys together, it's it's going to be ridiculous.

564
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 4: YouTube Vanessa. I mean, but Vanessa in the mix like, whoa, Okay, now,

565
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't.

566
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Know those guys are nuts. No, absolutely, I mean I

567
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: don't do creatures, So I mean I do do.

568
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: I can.

569
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of like I can sing, but I'm never

570
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: going to be the gal who's like give me the microphone.

571
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: I'll be like, nah, I'm good, Oh but you do,

572
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: you can? You can and you do and you do

573
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: it all if I'm marrying, but I'm yeah, yeah, I don't.

574
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever anyway, Yeah.

575
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: No, you're I mean, I do like a very small

576
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: handful of impressions, and they're more micro impressions, so it's

577
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 4: like you do questions are great, Yeah, but that's because

578
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: I think I know like one sentence to say and

579
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: that's like, all right, that's it. Guys, like where it's

580
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: a different level and this isn't me being self deprecating.

581
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: Just it's a different level with the Vanessa Marshalls, the

582
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: Steve Blooms of Deep, Bradley Bakers, James Arnold Taylor's of

583
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: the world who can carry an entire like zoom call

584
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: or conversation in that voice. Yep, that there. It would

585
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: be very very difficult for me, could I mean, it

586
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: would slip in and out for me. Where it's always

587
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: amazing to me when I can see that level of

588
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: talent and it's like, oh yeah, exactly, Like you can

589
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: get Dan Castle in at a he could talk like

590
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: Homer Simpson, like an entire three hour call just because

591
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: it's just there. Or I could maybe say dope, that's Itay.

592
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: That's how I speak French, Spanish and Italian. I say

593
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: like this, and I'm like, that's it. That's all I got.

594
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: You get that one good phrase like and then someone's like, oh.

595
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: You and then they say a lot more and I'm like, no, no, no, that.

596
00:29:54,200 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: That was it. That was it exactly exactly. I want

597
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: to talk about Ezra really quick, and do you start

598
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: to see the makings of him coming into his own

599
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: where the first season it's very master pad one sort

600
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: of thing and he wants that structure, he wants that guidance,

601
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: and he still wants that. But even when the team's

602
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: having their huddle, and this is this great shot where

603
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: they're like, do we trust Minister Tua, And Ezra's just

604
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: kind of there spinning the wheels in his head and

605
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: you start to see that, Okay, this guy is like

606
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: he's starting to see all the angles. And this is

607
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: very much like you, Taylor. You have a way of

608
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: just kind of you know how to play the game.

609
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: You kind of see the angles, and you really kind

610
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: of calculate what your movie is going to be. And

611
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: we see it through that, of course, and moment we

612
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: get to it next week we see more that come

613
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: to fruition. But I'm just wondering, was that any party,

614
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: your thought process, any sort of discussion that you had

615
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: with Dave or any of the creators, Because even the

616
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: voice we talked about when Ashley was on here a

617
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: few weeks ago, how the voice of Ahsoka changed by

618
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: the time we meet her here versus Clone Wars sense

619
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: even a little more confidence and maturity in Ezra even

620
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: just a little bit in this first episode, And I

621
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: don't know, like what you can remember or if even

622
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: that set out to you rewatching your own performance, Taylor.

623
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only conversation I remember having with Dave throughout

624
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: the entire show about like performance was just age. And

625
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if Tia you did the same with

626
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: just because you're obviously playing like younger, like I was

627
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: close enough to the age of Ezra, but also like

628
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: was I maybe twenty one when we started twenty one

629
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: to oh yeah, I wasn't able to drink nineteen to

630
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen? That is a that is a enough of

631
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: a gap that like we were playing down with the voice,

632
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: like I remember him being like, Okay, just pitch it

633
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: up a little bit and then we'll eventually bring it down.

634
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: But also in just like you said, the confidence and

635
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: not justly disposition, but the way he carries himself will

636
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: feel it in that way, and I feel like they

637
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: also did such a good job of writing him that

638
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: way as well, like you see it, he then, like

639
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: you said, listens and then comes up with the game plan.

640
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: But then a further thought occurred to me, and I

641
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: wonder how you guys feel about this, and maybe this

642
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: is where I'm at existentially in my life right now.

643
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 3: I'm really curious how much, like different characters have kind

644
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: of shaped me as a person and how much I've

645
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: like watching this show through there's been a beautiful thing

646
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: where I'm like, do I do that because like I

647
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: was kind of conditioned to do that while playing Ezra,

648
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: or like I saw it differently playing this character or

649
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: that character, because you really go deep into a philosophy

650
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: of a made up person and it is a part

651
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: of you. And I'm catching myself do certain things and

652
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, is that something that just came up with

653
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: me randomly or is it from this thing that I

654
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: see on camera that I obviously learned how to do.

655
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: And it's been interesting because with Ezra there's the closest,

656
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: maybe because we did eighty episodes of it and it

657
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: was a long story of growth and evolution. But sorry,

658
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: that's a bit of like a side quest on what

659
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: you're asking, But yeah, I think it is cool to

660
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: see the growth of Ezra through it. And I remember

661
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: the biggest job I remember was when he cut his hair,

662
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: which I think is coming first season three.

663
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: His blue hair, apparently his blue hair, his dark blue hair.

664
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Who knew it's not black hair with blue blue undertones?

665
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Guys, it's not it's just blue, it's blue hair. I

666
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: think I think that's a fairer question, though. Taylor and

667
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like it's almost as if casting knows

668
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: us better than we know ourselves, and they put together

669
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: this group of people that perhaps they see things about us,

670
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that I was so nurturing. I

671
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: didn't know that I care about doing I mean, I

672
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: knew that I cared about doing the right thing, but

673
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: to the extent that I feel that it's my duty

674
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: to do so. I didn't realize that is like in

675
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: my DNA, and I was sort of shocked to see

676
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: how I don't know, I've been that way my whole life,

677
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: but I never really sort of really really took ownership

678
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: of it, shall we say, until I saw the similarities

679
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: in Harrah, because I would ask myself, what would Haarra do?

680
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, you've been doing that for years.

681
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I guess we really are very similar. Or

682
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I catch myself doing things today. Have I been impacted

683
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: by roles that I played?

684
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

685
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I had. Something like this happened recently in a video game.

686
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: I played Doctor Strangelove and I just did a podcast.

687
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: They asked me to watch the Stanley Kubrick movie. This

688
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: is a bit of a side tangent, but I don't

689
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: play the game well enough to no to sort of

690
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: go into much of the backstory that is revealed about

691
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: this character. But for whatever reason, when I was in

692
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: high school, I was obsessed with nuclear holocaust and preventing

693
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: it and saving the world and whatever else. And this character,

694
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: Doctor Strangelove in Metal Gear Solid is obsessed with preventing

695
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: nuclear holocaust through using AI to kind of protect the

696
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: world from human error in a way. And I didn't

697
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: realize that I didn't. I didn't bring any of that

698
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: to the portrayal of this character whatsoever, at least consciously.

699
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: But when I watched the film Doctor Strangelove in order

700
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: to prepare for the podcast and watch those sort of

701
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: nuclear mushroom clouds, I had a visceral reaction. I started crying,

702
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: and I had forgotten that this used to be. I

703
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: would go to peace protests and I started groups at

704
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: my school. I was like, literally the only member Americans

705
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: for Peace. No one gave a flying anyway, But I

706
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: thought to myself, like did they see in me that

707
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: this is something that I definitely did care about or

708
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think that's a really

709
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: interesting line of inquiry where things are revealed to us

710
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: even after performing them, that either we've incorporated elements of

711
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: that or that we had them all along and just

712
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: never really noticed them before. Anyway, that's today, so I'm

713
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: bringing it up.

714
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: But no, it's super interesting. I'm curious. It's great.

715
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: That's a very deep philosophical I think feel like bonus

716
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: episode we could take. Maybe we can get a philosophy professor,

717
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 4: because what you're talking about is socrates theory of recollection.

718
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 4: Like we don't learn, we just uncover what we already knew.

719
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: And I feel like that's what you're describing there. And

720
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: even as actors, it's almost like we don't. It comes

721
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: to the point you realize you don't need permission to

722
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: do anything. It's just other than just give yourself the

723
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: liberty to do so, and acting as such an amazing

724
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: outlet for that. It's like safe space for you to

725
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: channel into this part of your personality or channel into

726
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: this thing you maybe never got to do. It's like

727
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: like someone like Data Korn Sweat playing Superman. It's like, yeah,

728
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: he's not Kryptonian doesn't really fly, but at the same time,

729
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: it's like he gets to tap into that whole thing

730
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: of this person who really, you know, almost naively believes

731
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: that people are good and you know, has this maturity

732
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: to use his powers for a good sort of thing.

733
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: But you can't relate to that personally, like we don't

734
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 4: know what it's like the fly around and have heat

735
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: vision and anything like that. But my point is it's

736
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: like when you're giving that liberty to like, hey, let

737
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: me let well other than Taylor, who obviously who hold

738
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: him back on us, but he's you know, wait till

739
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: we get to season four. But it's just like when

740
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: you get that direction or you get that breakdown, it's like, oh,

741
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: this is with your character is like oh okay, and

742
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: so I do think you're honest something there, Vanessa. It's

743
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: like it's already there. It's just we have to give

744
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: ourselves permission to uncover it. And then when you have

745
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: a safe space like the stage or film television, it's like,

746
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: you know, it's okay to like let it out here

747
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: because it's like within the confined space, if that makes sense.

748
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, dead on it. I think that's the most That's

749
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: what appeals to me most about acting. I think I

750
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: think we as humans are everything and everyone. Not to

751
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: get so woo wooly, but like every character is just

752
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: on the switchboard of who teas or Vanessa's or John is.

753
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: You just turn certain switches up or down according to

754
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: each character. But it's all within you and who you are.

755
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: And we see people in life some switches have just

756
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: been jammed all the way up and all the way down,

757
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: and through work they can start to toggle it. And

758
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: then you have people who can are so deft with

759
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: moving them around uh at with ease. And I think

760
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: that is what acting sort of asks of you. And

761
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: it is sort of like the economy of empathy as well.

762
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 3: You're just seeing into parts of yourself that are there

763
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: and other people that you just have to sort of

764
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: uncover a little bit. We really went away from Star Wars, but.

765
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: Let's someone get Socrates on the phone.

766
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: But I do think it's an interesting I mean, if

767
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: you started this at age nineteen, these are it's not

768
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: formative yours, you know.

769
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: No, but it is. It is like it's that thought

770
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: I remember being like, who is the mand that I'm

771
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: going to be? You know what? I mean, because it's

772
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: still like I'm a kid coming out of this thing

773
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: that I'm like, I've moved through life this way, I'm

774
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: going to have to figure out how to move through

775
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: life that way. It would only make sense that this

776
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: would inform it. And I remember telling Dave a couple

777
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: times like, Oh, this curiosity that as I's having, I'm

778
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: having in my own life. And so I'm seeing it

779
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: show up more and more. I think surely were informed

780
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: by the way some people their whole life was changed

781
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: by seeing a movie or having a stroke of kindness

782
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: from someone in middle school, whatever it is, can have

783
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: an effect on someone. Why wouldn't something we did for

784
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: five years that we really deluded ourselves to believe is

785
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: true not affect us and kind of make us who

786
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: we are. I don't know.

787
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, very interesting stuff. And so one last little I

788
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: wanted to point out of this episode, which going back

789
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: to Ezra and Kanaan, because we talked about how Canaan's

790
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: resistance to joining this bigger group, this really whole thing

791
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: of PTSD, but also the rigidity of how he lives

792
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: his life. He's like, Hey, I found something I'm comfortable with.

793
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to change it. What's the point of

794
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: changing it now? In contrasts with Ezra, who still has

795
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: And again this is when life imitates art a little bit.

796
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: Because Freddie, Freddie, who we've all gotten to know very

797
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 4: well the past, you know, a decade or so, knows

798
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, you know, like and he's very

799
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: much like, I'm good with who I am. I'm good

800
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 4: with this. If you're going to give me more information, cool,

801
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: But I know what works for me, and there's nothing

802
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. That's just who he is

803
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: and and it works very well for him. But then

804
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: I remember, and I don't know if like, I'm sure

805
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: it's fine if I tell this story. I remember at

806
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: celebration in twenty nineteen, and I remember me, Taylor and

807
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: Freddi were just in there, you know, talking to whatever.

808
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: And then remember Taylor had to go to do like

809
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: a signing, and Freddie turning. He goes man like. I

810
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: love that kid, like he's he's just he's more like

811
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: curious and searches for more answers than I ever could.

812
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: I wonder if he knows how much I admire him.

813
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: And then I so I thought of that when I

814
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: see Ezra and Kanaan in this episode because I'm like

815
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: kan Is where he's like, I don't want to change,

816
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: but I was just like, well, hold on, like why not?

817
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: Why can't we go this direction? What could happen if

818
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: we go here? And I feel like it's my writing

819
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: mentor taught me is something called reflection characters, where there's

820
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 4: a character that's like, if you make a certain choice,

821
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: that's the direction you can go. And if Ezra leans

822
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: into when we first met him, which is I'm going

823
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: to be the loner I don't need to do for

824
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: lying anybody, he may go Canaan's path where he's seeing

825
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: where it led Canaan, which isn't a bad place, but

826
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: I was like, well, what's going to work better for me?

827
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: And you start to see him grow into his own person,

828
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: So it just to me it was very subtle but

829
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: also art imitating life because I do remember that conversation

830
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: with Freddie, which Freddy, if I didn't have your permission

831
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: to tell that story, we can talk about it, but

832
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: I think it's okay.

833
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: That's very very sweet, and to Freddy's credit, I mean,

834
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: been such an amazing person for me and spoken to

835
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: me through times when I was like questioning different things.

836
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: He expressed this to me in person, which I think

837
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: is a very sweet thing that we don't do, and

838
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: it has encouraged me through the last ten years of

839
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: my life to do the same with friends or just

840
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: people I admired or had any thought about, because I

841
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: remember when he expresses similar sentiment. I was like, Oh,

842
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: it's very powerful for you to say that as well,

843
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: and it's really affecting me in a way that you

844
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: just have to be a very confident person to even

845
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: sort of have that thought and then express it to someone.

846
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: And that's one of the coolest things about Freddie as well.

847
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: And he knows how much I admire and respect him.

848
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: It's it's very sweet.

849
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so again, I know this is this episode all

850
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: of a sudden.

851
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: This is so sweet. You guys given me the feels.

852
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Feel do you feel I just have to ask, do

853
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: you feel a similarity the same way about Taylor? No? Mean, like,

854
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I see so many similarities. You're so smart,

855
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: your fashion is so on point, and you you really

856
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: do you. You don't talk the talk, you walk the walk.

857
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: And I feel that Sabine is so fierce in that way.

858
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: And I still can't get over her wardrobe in this season.

859
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: I mean the checkerboard, the like selector checkerboard stuff on

860
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: her shoulder.

861
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was just like, do you look at

862
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: that and go chef's kiss? Well, thank you.

863
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: That's all very kind of you, truly, I mean that's

864
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: that's you.

865
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: Also probably don't see yourself as well as other people can,

866
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 5: because I don't see myself like do you feel it?

867
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Though? I think that I always have thought.

868
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I I feel a real kinship with

869
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: Sabina and I have I always have. It didn't take

870
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: me a while to get there, Like it was like

871
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 2: pretty immediate. I think her like sass is a dumb word.

872
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't mean sas, but her like spunk, her like

873
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, just her sort of energy and like that, I.

874
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Was like, oh I get it. It clicks, you know.

875
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: I've always thought like, I mean, she is like the

876
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: most bad ass, and so do I necessarily think I'm

877
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: that badass? No, because she's the coolest. But I think

878
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: the thing that I've always has always yeah, I mean

879
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: her fashion sense is sick and I love that. But

880
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: I think the thing that's resonated with me and I

881
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: don't want to sound hokey or anything, but I feel

882
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: like ever since I was a kid, I feel like

883
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: I have always had this sense of, like.

884
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like.

885
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: Self congratulatory or something, but like I've always had a

886
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: clear sense of like fighting the good fight and not

887
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: being sort of swayed by people's opinion of doing that,

888
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: and for better.

889
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Or for worse, listen, like.

890
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: That has gotten me, you know, into trouble from time

891
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: to time, especially on social media, but not being sort

892
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: of not shying away from doing what you feel is

893
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: right just because it might be like an unpopular thing

894
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: to do or whatever. And so for that, like that

895
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: thing about Sabine where she is willing to fight and

896
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: do what's right and you know, never mind the haters

897
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: or the naysayers, like that always kind of felt really

898
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: I felt a kinship with that.

899
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean she's much cooler than me. But

900
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: thank you. I really that means a lot coming from you. Yeah,

901
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: you're so outspoken about stuff and no, no, no, no,

902
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: not at all. And I know what you're talking about.

903
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: It's just the way certain people are constructed. And when

904
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I'm constructed to want to do the

905
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: right thing. I didn't mean to sound self congratulatory either,

906
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: but no, I didn't think you did. Yeah. But but

907
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying like it's it's an awareness that I wasn't.

908
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware that that is something I can't un do.

909
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: It's like it's just how I see just part of you.

910
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: But I see that with you as well, Like even

911
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: even once Sabine in season one is like, I want

912
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: to know more. I went to a school where they

913
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't tell me anything, and I was billing something to

914
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: harm people. I need to know more. The fact that

915
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: that's so you to absolutely not agree to no, and

916
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: I ask questions. Absolutely, Oh, I love that. I love

917
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: that though, I mean it sort of speaks to that

918
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: like that does casting know us better than we know ourselves.

919
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: We have a vague understanding of who we are and

920
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: how we're built, but not to the point of like intrinsic.

921
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, I just I was curious if

922
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: that were true for you as well. So thank you

923
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: for answering that. Well.

924
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: It is fascinating to think. I mean, like, is it

925
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: art imitating life? Is it life imitating art? I say

926
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: it all the time with us because like you know,

927
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: when we're talking Taylor, what you were talking about earlier,

928
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if part of that was like how old

929
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: you were, being the youngest of all of us, and like,

930
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: I think I think you were nineteen?

931
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Okay?

932
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: So you were?

933
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean nineteen is a very formative time in one's life,

934
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: I think.

935
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: And so I wonder if.

936
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Your age and where you were in your life, you know,

937
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: kind of created that situation where like playing Ezra informed

938
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: where you were and how and how you were and

939
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: how you kind of matured a lot because of where

940
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: you were in your life. And I just like, when

941
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: we're talking about casting, oh you know, did they know?

942
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if they knew, but gosh, like it

943
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: just really worked out because like I know you guys

944
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: so well and I've known you for so long, but

945
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: it never fails to I mean, I know we talk

946
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: about this all the time, but I truly like it

947
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: never fails to amaze me when I'm watching Ezra and

948
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, that's just Taylor.

949
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: That's just Taylor.

950
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: And and same for Hararah, and same for watching Freddy

951
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: in this episode. Sorry, watching Canaan in this episode, I'm like,

952
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: I miss Freddy. That's just Freddie being Freddie, like the

953
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: the snarky equips or the like funny like one.

954
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: Liners and then that like.

955
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Kind of nurturing big brotherly I know, space Dad, but

956
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: to me, big brotherly dynamic or that that that energy.

957
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: It's like casting hats off to you because I just

958
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: don't know how else.

959
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

960
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: I just think that it's so synergistic in the best

961
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: way possible.

962
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent. And I think credit to

963
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: the writing to stuff too, because I'm sure they see

964
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 4: parts of you coming out. They retrofit it to your

965
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: personalities and then that goes into the character. There's this

966
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: clip I've seen a one car wile the Hong Kong filmmaker.

967
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: He says, Look, the best way you can help an

968
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: actor out is like make sure you retrofit the character

969
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: to them. Don't try to make like mold them into

970
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: this thing. You can meet it in the middle of

971
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: somewhere because an actor is going to make their choices

972
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 4: and because because of like the hire personality they have.

973
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: But as a director and as a writer, you retrofit

974
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 4: it to what they are, and then the two become

975
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: one sort of thing. And with that. That's why I

976
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: can't agree that s Being is cooler than you Tea,

977
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: because without you, Sabine doesn't exist. But we have somebody

978
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: who can fact check all of that, and I think

979
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: that is a great segue to our do I say,

980
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: our favorite part of the segment, which is check with

981
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: our guy, jac What have we on today?

982
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Okay?

983
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 6: Well, I came in having watched the episode just with

984
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 6: my mouth open, so I didn't have anything. But you guys,

985
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 6: you guys got me some stuff to talk about here. Vanessa,

986
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 6: you said you felt like you missed a season like that,

987
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 6: there was a huge gap between season one and season two.

988
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 6: You guys were embedded now, and I wanted to say

989
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 6: before I answer that with a monetary answer, a lot

990
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 6: of that is just Star Wars style, Like when you're

991
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: watching a New Hope in nineteen seventy seven, the line

992
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 6: General Knoba years ago, you served my father in the

993
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: Clone Wars. Now he begs you for your help and

994
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: a struggle against the Empire. I regret to inform you

995
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 6: blah blah blah, like you don't know what Princess Leah

996
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 6: is talking about. You're like Clone Wars?

997
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 3: What what? What? Like?

998
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: George Lucas's style is just to drop you in the

999
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 6: middle of something that's happening, in the middle of everything. Hence,

1000
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 6: like starting with episode four, you know, traveling through hyperspace

1001
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 6: ain't like Dustin Crop's Boy. Without precise ploculations, we could

1002
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 6: fly right through a supernova, bounce too close to a start.

1003
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: You're like, what are you talking about, Harrison Ford.

1004
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: So with all that being said, it's like a few months.

1005
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 6: Like a few months really, yeah, Okay, now specter numbers

1006
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 6: how the Ghost crew came together. I've got some info

1007
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 6: on that. Harah did acquire Chopper from a crashed wy Wing.

1008
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice.

1009
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 6: And I don't think you actually saw the the rescue

1010
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: of Chopper from a crash wy Wing in anything, but

1011
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 6: what you're remembering is from Bad Batch. It did happen

1012
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: in the Clone Wars and it's the Battle of Ryeloth.

1013
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 6: You see a young Harrison Doula with Chopper by her

1014
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 6: side in episode in Bad Batch. I think it's episode

1015
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 6: eleven somebody. But it's like right around there, all right,

1016
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 6: you are not crazy. Chopper shows up first, then you

1017
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 6: apparently Hara and Chopper already had the ghosts.

1018
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: It was already a thing. With the two of them.

1019
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 6: Then Harah found Canaan on a moon of a planet

1020
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: called Gorse, And this was all outlined in John Jackson

1021
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 6: Miller's novel A New Dawn. That is six years before

1022
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 6: the event of Star Wars Rebels, and a little backstory

1023
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: on that is, I guess Harah was already like starting

1024
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 6: to move in the direction of fighting for good. Canaan

1025
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 6: was trying to hide from the Empire. He was a

1026
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 6: freighter pilot. Haarah hired some thugs to do a thing

1027
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 6: and they kind of like betrayed her, and then Canaan

1028
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 6: showed up and kind of helped haraa out, and you know,

1029
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 6: the rest is history. Many many years later, Jason shows up.

1030
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: Can I ask a quick, quick question, Yes, Does that

1031
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: mean that once upon a time Haah was working for

1032
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: not good?

1033
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: No, it just means like she had kind of started

1034
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 6: tracking what the Empire was doing and like putting action

1035
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: into resistance against that.

1036
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not thinking her father's view on freedom fighting

1037
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: is very different from hers. She was already a freedom fighter,

1038
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: if you will, if I can use that term. She

1039
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: went like full blown hardcore beyond what her dad felt,

1040
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: I believe, and so she was always on the side

1041
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: of good. But I think she came to meet Fulcrum

1042
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: and divorced herself from her father's methods and sort of

1043
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: found her own version of that. Isn't that correct? I

1044
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: mean she committed to something that was other than her

1045
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: father and lived to prove that her way was better

1046
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: and right. Hence the big scene between the two of

1047
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: them that will get to where they have an argument

1048
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: about fighting for freedom and how you acquire it.

1049
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: Wait, does that mean that Harah has been in contact

1050
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: with Fulkrum the entire time that all of season one,

1051
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: unbeknownst to us, unbeknownst to the audience too.

1052
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Yeah, I think that was

1053
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: my impression.

1054
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 6: I don't have any like, I can't quote page something

1055
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 6: of a book, but my impression is is that Harrah

1056
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 6: has been getting intel from Fulkrum all along.

1057
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 3: Huh.

1058
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't think I realized that anyway.

1059
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 6: And then just a little background on Zeb, I guess

1060
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: kind of the There isn't a lot of information on

1061
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 6: Zeb's origin outside of what's said in the show. I

1062
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 6: believe at some point in the show it was mentioned

1063
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 6: that Canaan found Zeb buried under rubble after the Battle

1064
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 6: of Lassaut or whatever and rescued him and that's how

1065
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 6: he he joined up.

1066
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: But there's no time frame that I could find on that.

1067
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 6: And as far as like what's up with the specter

1068
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 6: order of Hera and Chopper existed for many, many years

1069
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 6: before Canaan came into the mix, I think Vanessa kind

1070
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 6: of like hit it on the head. And also if

1071
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 6: it's just like you and you're droid, like I don't know.

1072
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 6: I had a dog for a long time and I

1073
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: was never like me and my dog are a crew.

1074
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: But as soon as you have as soon as you

1075
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 6: have three people, then you're a crew. Yeah, you're a family.

1076
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Speaker 6: But two people are a couple, right, And it'd be

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00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 6: weird if, like I mean, I guess there's like Benefer

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00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 6: and those types of couples that get names, but like,

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Speaker 6: you know, unless you're Ben Affleck, I don't know if

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00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: you're getting.

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Speaker 3: A couple name for you and your robot.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 3: That's really it.

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Speaker 6: The other things that just struck me about this episode

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00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 6: was like there's murder in it, Like they murdered somebody

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: when they blew up the shuttle.

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Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, yeah, going hard so.

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Speaker 6: Two flashbacks, right, yeah, yeah, it was very like Corde

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00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 6: from episode two. Also, just Ezra and Canaan and Stormtrooper

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: disguise is so Star Wars. You see that over and

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00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: over again. Lando's in disguise, priss Le is in disguise, obviously,

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00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 6: Han and Lucar in disguise. A lot of disguises in

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: Star Wars, So that was cool. And I also just

1094
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: want to say it feels like the start of episode two,

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 6: the Ghost Cruise, like leveling up, wherein all of episode

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 6: one they're not They're playing small ball, right, It's just like,

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 6: let's just go do this thing. Let's just go do

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00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 6: this thing. Let's just go do this thing. And now

1099
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 6: it's like, oh no, we're gonna fight Darth Vader. That's

1100
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 6: like we are now the main like we are the

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 6: all stars of the Rebel Alliance going out and getting

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Speaker 6: the thing done, which I thought was pretty cool. John,

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Speaker 6: you mentioned Socrates for the people who aren't as philosophically inclined.

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 6: You may know Socrates better as so Crates from Bill

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 6: and Ted's excellent Adventure, Same Guy, Same guy. And I

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00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: had one question for you guys, because this just happened

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00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 6: to me. Last weekend at a birthday party during the

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00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 6: Q and A a couple episodes or maybe last episode,

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00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 6: there's Dan from Chicago. I was at a party and

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 6: Dan from Chicago showed up, which was wild, Like, yeah,

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 6: last weekend, and so have you guys been to a

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 6: convention or anything and actually had an interaction with somebody

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 6: who wasn't like Star Wars rebels. They were like Pod

1114
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 6: of Rebellion, Like if you had the podcast interaction with

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 6: somebody yet, yes, really, yes.

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Speaker 4: I was just at a convention a couple of weeks ago,

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00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: this small one in Alabama, and the people that came

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00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: to my table, because I've done small stuff on like

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00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: Star Trek and stuff like that, and Star Trek is

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Speaker 4: very popular. There's a whole Star Trek collective in Alabama,

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 4: so I figured anyone coming there is going to talk

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 4: about Star Trek. I would say ninety percent of the

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Speaker 4: people that came to my table was Potter Rebellion or

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: that was pretty scary. My other podcast, it was very

1125
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: little the movies I've been in, so it's out there.

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: It is out there.

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Speaker 3: It's cool. I've had it too. I haven't been too

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Speaker 3: many pod or conventions since we started this, but the

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Speaker 3: one that I did, I'm going to say a dozen

1130
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: people probably, And the thing that really kind of kicked

1131
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: me with it is they were re listening to episodes

1132
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: a part of Rebellion, which I don't even rewatch like

1133
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: shows or movies, so that that was a real trip

1134
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: to me that they're like, They're like, yeah, when I

1135
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Speaker 3: drive to work, I'll listen to episodes just on repeat.

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was so sweet. And also I

1137
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: was like, well, I'm going to shape up a little

1138
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: on the podcast something. They'll love to.

1139
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Speaker 2: Get it together Saylor, Yeah, exactly what people are listening.

1140
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Speaker 3: It was neat.

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 6: I have gotten a lot of I mean again, not

1142
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 6: that I am famous or anything, but when people do

1143
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 6: recognize me, it's a lot of Kevin Smith podcast and

1144
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 6: it's a lot of skim and villainy. It was very

1145
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 6: interesting to be like part of Rebellion JC and I

1146
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 6: was like, WHOA, that's crazy.

1147
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: O cool cool.

1148
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: I have not been anywhere recently.

1149
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: I've just been reclused in my ass.

1150
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: No, I just haven't been on to any convention since

1151
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: we started this thing. But that's really exciting and encouraging,

1152
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: and I feel like saying thanks for listening you guys,

1153
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: I know we.

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: Say we're here to make her commute just that much

1155
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: better hopefully. Well thanks JCS. Unless there's more you have

1156
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: yet this week we'll put you. Don't worry. We got

1157
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: the next week's a heavy episodes, so you're probably gonna

1158
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 4: have your work cutout for you. But thank you everybody.

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Speaker 4: We're officially in season two of Star Wars Rebels and

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: we're so happy to be here. We're so happy that

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01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: you're here listening, and just keep on listening because it's

1162
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: only going to keep on getting better. Where we know

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01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: that you loved having Ashy x sdein here and then

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: James Arnold Taylor. There are going to be more guests

1165
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: coming on, and not just from the Star Wars universe.

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01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 4: Just to just letting you know that we're going to

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01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 4: have some fun, fun people joining the fun here. I

1168
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: just said fun a lot of times, so.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so fun.

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: That's gonna be so fun.

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, fun, fun, fun like the Beach Boys song. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: tune in next week we're going to go over part

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: two of Cglatha. But until then, Taylor's got the magic

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: words here.

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: The music.

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Speaker 4: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing,

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Speaker 4: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, TiO Surkar Taylor Gray and john

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Speaker 4: Ley Brody Executive producer and in house Star Wars guru

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01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: slash back checker J C. Reifenberg. Our music was composed

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01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: by Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: Fraser of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Halldy Free

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: and Aaron Kaufman over at iHeart, Ivan Krasco or At,

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01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 4: Willie morris En Devor Trasy Canobio, George Lucas for creating

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 4: this universe we love so much, and of course all

1185
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: of our amazing listeners. Follow us on Instagram at Potter

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Speaker 4: Rebellion and eat it