1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to at 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Home on the Velvet Edge podcast. This week, my guest 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: is country music singer and guitar playing Badass Lindsay L. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Lindsey and I talked about what it took for her 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: to become so good at playing guitar and why she 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: never actually feels like she will be done learning. We 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: also tackled the topic of inequalities for women in country 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: music and how it makes her grind that much harder. Plus, 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: she answered some dating questions and told us if she 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: has been hooking up in quarantine. Here's our conversation. Lindsay L, 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: what's up, Kelly. It is so good to talk to you. Oh, 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: you know, just live in the best part. You and 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I were just talking before the podcasting. We're like, you said, 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: how are you? And I was like, oh, you know, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: just another day of quarantine, Like what is this life? 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's honestly what it feels like 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: like this is becoming the new normal. It's just the norm. Yeah, 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: So tell me what is your day to day look like, 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: because I know obviously it's very different from what it 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: was before quarantine, very different. I used to play. I 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: mean last year we played two shows. I was on 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: eighty days, so this has been a direct one eighty 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: from that life. Like I have never spent this much 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: time at home, like waking up in my own bed, 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: cooking in my kitchen every day, which is a blessing 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: like that. That part feels really, really nice. The other 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: part of it, it just it feels so different. I 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: feel like I should be packing a suitcase and going 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: on the road and I'm not. At the beginning of 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: this quarantine, I was finishing my album, which actually was 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: so nice because I was pretty busy. I was working 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: with my producer Dan Huff remotely, so I would record 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: vocals and guitars from my little studio at my house 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: and then send files to him. He'd work his magic, 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: he'd send them back and so for the first three 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: weeks I was finishing my album remotely. Slammed. I was 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: totally slammed. And now I'm like into the Once I 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: turned all the files from my album in, I was like, Okay, 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: now what do what do normal people do? I don't 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend. I live alone, and so I've been 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: quarantined in the house by myself for over fifty days now. 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you talking to random things in 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: your house as if they're your friends. I have been 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: like talking aloud. I put string lights up in my 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: living room to make it feel like a little bit 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: more cheery. Right, it's cozier. I like it. I know, 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. At this point, it's like 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: literally one day at a time. Absolutely you said you could. 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean you cook. I know you cook a lot 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: because I see it on your Instagram. What have you 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: been cooking? So I've been eating pretty well vegan for 52 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the past year. I'm not like super religious about it, 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: but I try to stay to it. So I've been 54 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: cooking a lot of like veggie burgers. I make this 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: really amazing like cauliflower cross pizza. I just like cooks 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: floor with different things. You know. That's been the main 57 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: thing for me is I have to really branch out, 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: Like I've gotten a couple of new cookbooks because I 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: just get so monotinous, and then my brain is like 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to cook because we've been 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: cooking more meals than the I personally have ever cooked. Yeah, 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: than ever, I know, And in a way it's kind 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: of exciting because you get to be a little bit 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: more adventurous. But then there are days I just want quarantine, 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: so up and down. Like some days I wake up 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: and I feel great and I opened the curtains and 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: let light in. I'm like, okay, bring on this day. 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: And other days like the exact opposite dark. I don't 69 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: want to cook anything. I'm eating ice cream out of 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: my freezer. I feel like that's how everyone is. It's 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: just and you kind of got to ride ride the 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: waves of the emotions because it's all over the place. 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: It is all over the place, so so true. So 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: have you been playing a lot of guitar, because you 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: are definitely known for your guitar playing skills. I haven't. 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I am you know, to be getting of this quarantine. Also, 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: things are pretty busy because our our friends at radio, 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: we're all asking for like content, and you know, every everybody. 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: It felt like everybody all of a sudden discovered the 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Internet and they were like, let's do lives and let's 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: do this and do you have videos and can you 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: send covers? And so I haven't playing a lot of guitar, 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: but it's just been it's felt like work a little bit, 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been really practicing and fun. And now 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: that we're like week nine or ten or whatever, um 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: we are in this quarantine, I'm like just scratching the 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: service to be like, Okay, maybe I should practice again, 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: actually work on my skills as a guitar player or 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, playing piano or whatever. It is like starting 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: to dig a little bit deeper, which is I think 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: where the true magic lives. What does that look like 92 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: to get so good at something? Because, like I said, 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you're known for being really great at guitar. When did 94 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: you start playing? So I started playing guitar when i' eight. 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Pianos actually my first instrument when I was six, But 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: I've I picked up a guitar and I just didn't 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: want to put it down. I was so curious about 98 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: everything with it. And I've I've never really gotten to 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: a point where I thought I was good. And I 100 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: hope I really never get to a point where I 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: think I'm good. I mean, because I always just watch 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: people who could play circles around me and I'm like, okay, 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: well I need to learn how to do that, and 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: I need to learn how to be that fluid and 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: and you know, I read an article once it said 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: Bob King used to take a guitar lesson every day, 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: and Slain Dion still takes voice lessons all the time. 108 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: If they can still learn stuff, then I have a 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: long way to go. And so I never really look 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: at it as, oh, I'm a good guitar player. I like, 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: I love playing guitar, and I do it a lot. 112 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: But I have I have so much further to go, 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, I have so much more I want to learn. 114 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: And the cool thing about living in Nashville is you 115 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: get to surround yourself with musician and who are out 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of this world, like they're everywhere, They're everywhere, and they're 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: so great at what they do. You go down to 118 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: Broadway and you see these guys playing for mer tips 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: for a few hours, and they will amaze you. They'll 120 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: leave you speechless. I mean, they've been on so many 121 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: countless records, like hit records from Garth Brooks too, you know, 122 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: anybody on the radio today, and and yet they're playing 123 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: on Broadway for tips. I mean right now physically, but 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: but when things open back up again. And so Nashville 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: is a very humbling town to live in because you 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: can you can constantly be challenging yourself, I guess, and 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: just be like, Okay, yeah, I'm I know my way 128 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: around the guitar, but I could I could also be 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: so much better. Well, you actually covered an entire John 130 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Mayor album, which as sam since he's also a fellow 131 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: guitar player, he's one of your heroes. So who else 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: has kind of shaped your career? Yeah? I love the 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: way John plays, and as a writer, I just think 134 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: he so talented. Um so, he's he has been a 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: huge influence on me. I mean when I started playing, 136 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I learned playing bluegrass with my dad. I would go 137 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to bluegrass camps with him when I was this tiny 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: little blond girl, following him and all of his friends 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: around playing like fiddle tunes still three in the morning. 140 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: That's how I grew up. So I was big into 141 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: like ched Atkins when I was little, and then I 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: got into Jimi Hendrix and Steve gray Van and Eric 143 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Clapton and Derek Trucks and like a lot of blues 144 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: guitar players honestly, and rock guitar players that um that 145 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I feel have been the main influence on my style 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: right now as I play like it's the difference between 147 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: when you hear Brett Paisley play and Keith Urban play. 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: They're both incredible guitar players and they they both are 149 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: so so great that they have such unique styles. Tell 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: me more about that, because to the outside of you, 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: of a non musician, to me, I'm just like, oh, 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: they're great. But for you, what do you see as 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the difference between like those two But for instance, so um, 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to tour with both of them, 155 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: and I will say I look up to both of 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: them for um, completely different reasons. I toured with Brad 157 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: for about a year and a half. We played shows 158 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: all over the world together, and Brad is so technically great, 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: like you will watch the show and he will not 160 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: make one mistake, and it's it's frustrating because it's like, 161 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: how are you so good? Like you never make a mistake. 162 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: He's so good, and he just makes it look effortless, 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: like he's just so technically fluid, up and down, up 164 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and down the instrument, and at night after night after 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: night is consistent, and so I so appreciate that. And 166 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: then when you look at Keith, who is just as 167 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: great but in a completely different way, Like their styles 168 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: are just so different, which is cool when I think 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: you throw musicians in together who have completely different styles, 170 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: just like any collaboration, I think that's where you know 171 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: some really you unique moments can happen. But um, but 172 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Keith is a lot more bluesier, i'd say, in his style, 173 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: and so he's very fluid and just in the way 174 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: he like dances when he's playing shoulders, he's feeling it 175 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: and you just feel something when you watch Keith play. 176 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: He's also technically really really great, but he just has 177 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: feel when he plays that it draws you in as 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: a listener. And I really think that Keith is is 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more bluesier, which is why if I 180 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: were to describe my style, it would be more down 181 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: that blues vein, and I think that's why I was 182 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: drawn to so many blues guitar players growing up. Yeah, 183 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: that makes total sense. Well, you just mentioned two of 184 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: the big heavy hitters in country music and they're both men. 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Which the topic of women in country music has been 186 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: one that's just been everywhere this past year specifically, so 187 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a well known fact that women in 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: country music are often excluded. And actually was reading an article, Um, 189 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: it's a recent article and pr that country music fans 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: are essentially programmed to like what they're fed, which is 191 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: mostly white males. So have you felt that exclusion specifically, 192 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: Like what does that look like? Yeah? I mean the 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: issue of women on country radio has been a thing 194 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: for years, ever since the tomato gate, dare I say it? 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: And I have always just a lot on the side 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: of the fence that music should be about music, and 197 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: it should be about what's great, not if a male 198 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: or female is singing, and it should just be if 199 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: a song is great, it should be played. But when 200 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: you really look into the science of radio, I've I've 201 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: read lots of studies on this too, and I think 202 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I know what article you're referring to, but I think 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: it was I want to say it was like eight 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: years ago or so, and there was a study done 205 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: and one program director in the market UM did some 206 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: research and said, Okay, if I take out the underperforming 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: theme male songs on my playlist, UM my ratings will 208 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: go up. And he it didn't say if I take 209 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: out the underperforming male songs on my playlist, It just said, 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: if I take out the underperforming female songs in my playlist, 211 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: my ratings will go up and so, and I think 212 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: it's it's just a number of things and a number 213 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: of dominoes. But I think through the years, and I 214 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: don't think maliciously people were trying to do this or 215 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: from a chauvinistic standpoint, But I just think through the years, 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: the listener has been subconsciously programmed to hear more male 217 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: voices on the radio, not saying that they don't like females, 218 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: because I will tell you when I go to my show, 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: my audience is seventy females. And when people say females 220 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: that want to hear females, I will be like, I 221 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: will fight you to the death, because just come to 222 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: any female artists show and you will see a lot 223 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: more females in the crowd than the mail. But I 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: do think that the audience has been subconsciously programmed to 225 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: hear more male voices on the radio, which has been 226 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: a challenge and a hurdle to overcome for everybody, be 227 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: it artists, labels, program directors, radio stations, you know, um 228 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: programming their stations. And so I feel like it's something 229 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: that we need to consciously react to right now. And 230 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: you see it I mean, there are definitely more females 231 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: on the charts. They're definitely more females getting number ones 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: these days. So I feel like it's changing slowly, but 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: but I think that, um, it's something we need to 234 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: look at more, um more more on the head and 235 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: more proactively being like, all right, we're going to make 236 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: a change of this in a in a good positive 237 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: way because it was subconsciously and and really from an 238 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: unfair standpoint changed years ago without really any of us 239 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: noticing it, and so um, so yeah, I really feel 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: like things are moving in the right direction. I truly do. 241 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I just think it's going to take more work on 242 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: everybody's standpoint to bouncing stut a little bit. Yeah, it's 243 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: so weird, you said, it just slowly changed from years ago. 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: And I grew up on women in country music like 245 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Faith Hill, Tricia Yearwood, Like nineties was just like there 246 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: was women everywhere me to Martina mc yes, Terry Clark, 247 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and yeah there were there was. Arguably it was definitely 248 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: even even maybe a little bit more you the other way. Yeah. Yeah, 249 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: So I do feel like industries are cyclical, and when 250 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: you look at pop music right now, it is inundated 251 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: by female, right, right, maybe it is. You're right, it's 252 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: just seasons. I mean you, I hear you described constantly 253 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: within the industry. It's just someone who will grind like 254 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: you work hard. So do you feel like that's tied 255 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: to the being a woman in this business or do 256 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: you feel like that is just your nature naturally? All? Really, 257 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: I have always in pretty driven and I always am 258 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: like hard work doesn't phase me, Like you tell me 259 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: what needs to be done and bring it on, like 260 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: I'll do it. But um, but I do feel like 261 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: as a female artist, we need to work harder and 262 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: for less money. Just just to be real about it. 263 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we work harder for less money. That's that's 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the way it is right now. And hopefully that will 265 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: even out and that will even change one day. But 266 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: even as a female in the world, in any industry, 267 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I think we need to work harder for less money 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Yeah, we kind of have to, 269 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: and it just is what it is. I'm not complaining 270 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: about it. I'm just kind of stating a fact. If anything, 271 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm up for the challenge, like, bring it on, I'm ready. Yeah, 272 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: your current single is called I Don't Love You Can 273 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: I just say I love your vocals on this song 274 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: that is the most real and raw I feel like 275 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: I've ever heard you. Thanks Kelly. I I um start 276 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: recording this record with Dan Hoff, my producer, and um, 277 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Dan has a way of capturing a vocal that is 278 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: just so raw and and honest. I mean, I've always 279 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: heard how amazing Dan is, and I've wanted to work 280 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: with him ever since I moved to Nashville ten years ago. 281 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: But I'm so glad that it took me till this 282 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: moment of my career to finally work with him, because 283 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: I finally know who I am, I know what kind 284 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: of record I want to make, and so I feel like, 285 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, our our path collided at the right time. 286 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: But he is truly one of the greats. When when 287 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, everybody bows down to Dan Hoff. I I 288 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: always have, and I've always respected him, But finally being 289 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: able to work with him, I truly understand why. Like 290 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: he's just so gifted about working with an artist and 291 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: pulling those things out of an artist that we don't 292 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: even know are inside of us. And I think that 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the evidence of a great producer, as you can do 294 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: that with anybody, whether it be Kane Brown, Brett Young, 295 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: like the Annabellum, I mean, even Keith Urban way back 296 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: in the date like Dan has worked with all of 297 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: those people and produces hits that you hear in the 298 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: radio across the board and could do something from the 299 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: left side of the spectrum to the right side of 300 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: the spectrum. So he Um, he was so talented and 301 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and able to kind of pull out a vocal like that. 302 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for loving it. Oh yeah, 303 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I felt it. I mean a lot of people have 304 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: also speculated that the song is about your ex Bobby Bones, 305 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: which I'm not even gonna bother asking because I know 306 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: how untrue speculation can be. But you did date Bobby 307 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: for a few years and it was a very public relationship, 308 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: so I want to know what dating looks like for you. Now, 309 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: would you ever get involved in such a public relationship again? Hey, well, um, 310 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: we are both tied to the Bobby Room quite so. 311 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I think Bobby is the best and um, you know 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: he We're still really close and still in great terms. 313 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I actually didn't write I Don't Love You. 314 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: It's the only song on my record I didn't write, 315 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and um, a lot of this record I will say 316 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: I write about my life. I mean a songwriter, Um, 317 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: it's it's what we do. And so over the past 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, I have written about that a lot. Um, 319 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: But I Don't Love You, I think was just a 320 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: song that I found that I I felt was so 321 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: honest and was something that I could relate to, and 322 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: I felt that a lot of people could relate to, 323 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: whether it be from any relationship that they think about 324 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: in their life. It's still okay too, not necessarily love somebody, 325 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: but still miss those good memories. And so I just 326 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: felt so identified to and connected to the song. Um, 327 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: will I ever have another public relationship, I don't know. 328 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at the point right now. I've been 329 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: single for two and a half years, Kelly, and I'm like, 330 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of like self discovery, deep diving, 331 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and I'm finally ready to find that relationship. And I 332 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: just I'm not putting any rules on it. You know, 333 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: whatever happens happens, Yeah, and we just want to find 334 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: the right person for the right reasons and the right 335 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: timing in in circumstance. So I'm really not putting rules 336 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: on what it has or has not have to be well. 337 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if any men are listening right now, this 338 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: is the right time. I mean a Quarantine connection. Can 339 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: we talk about that? So hit Lindsay up, slide on 340 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: into those d M. I'm totally your matchmaker right now. 341 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: Um okay, Well, you have this new live streaming show 342 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: which I actually was a guest on the other day. 343 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: It's called Living Well with l um tell Us. A 344 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: little bit about this show. Thank you so much for 345 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: coming on. It was fun. Um. I just one didn't selfishly, 346 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to go crazy playing any shows. And to 347 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: the first few weeks of Quarantine, I was just talking 348 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to friends and it is so easy to get down 349 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: on yourself, listening to the news and reading articles, and 350 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of heavy heaviness out in our 351 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: world right now, and I'm just like, I kind of 352 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: just want to go on Instagram and talk about good things, 353 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: bring on some of my friends and talk about what's 354 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: going good in their lives. And if I can make 355 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: a few people smile at the end of the thirty 356 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: forty five minutes that I'm live, then mission accomplished, right, 357 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I called it Living Well, and it's 358 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: just it's just centered around positivity. So how often are 359 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: you doing these? I do them once a week, every 360 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Tuesday night at seven pm Central, And for the time being, 361 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean until I get back heavy touring again. I 362 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: think I'm just going to keep continuing. Why not. I 363 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: think it's fun too, because it's like everyone is going 364 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: through so much of the same stuff and so if 365 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: we can all talk about it, it just makes it 366 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: for me. It makes me feel a lot better to 367 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: know I'm not isolated and all these feelings. You know, agreed, 368 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: and we're all humans. We're are where we come from, 369 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: what we do for a living, where we're quarantine, we're 370 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: You're right, We're all experiencing the same emotions and it 371 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of makes you feel like you're not so alone. 372 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: So what else do you have on the radar? I mean, 373 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: you said you've been working on a new album. Do 374 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: you have any updates on when that would be coming 375 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: out or has everything kind of been put on hold 376 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: for now? Well? I do have updates. Yeah, I'm so 377 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: excited about it. Um it will be out later this summer, 378 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: so I think August is well, we're shooting for UM. 379 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I originally was kind of nervous to release an album 380 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: in the middle of quarantine or who knows what August 381 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: is going to look or feel like at this point. 382 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: But but I think that art can always be, always 383 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: be released, and always be listened to, and maybe now 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: more than ever, art is a good thing for people 385 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: to be able to to, you know, digest when maybe 386 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: they're quarantined in their houses. And so we're just going 387 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: for word plan as usual and going to try to 388 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: make the release as special as it can. I'm hoping 389 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: by August I could travel and do some pressed by it, 390 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: but at this point I don't even know if that's 391 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: an option. So we're taking it day by day and 392 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: slowly planning this thing out. Well. I keep saying anytime 393 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: anyone on here has talked about releasing new music, I'm like, 394 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: bring it on, because we constantly have music going in 395 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: the house right now and I've run out of album 396 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's it's time I need some 397 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: new music. So we're with you. We're looking forward to 398 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: where can people keep up with you to get updates 399 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: on that kind of stuff. Um on all of the 400 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: socials is just at Lindsay L l I N D 401 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: S A y E L l UM I'm on Instagram 402 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: the most of these days, plus trying to learn TikTok 403 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: and making sense of any of that, and also making 404 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: a fool of myself making weird dances, so you can 405 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: see me making fool of myself on TikTok. To you 406 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: amazing you guys. Check out Living Well. I had so 407 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: much fun being in a guest and she's had some 408 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: really fun other guests on there every Tuesday at seven. 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Check out Lindsday on Instagram as well, and we are 410 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to new music from you, hopefully in August. 411 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like absolutely, thank you so much for being here. 412 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: Awesome Kelly, thank you so much for having me, and 413 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening.