Speaker 1: Forever. Hello, Oh hi Maureen, how are How are I see?
Speaker 1: You have a glass of red wine over there? Right?
Speaker 1: This is my after dinner before the podcast glass. So
Speaker 1: I love that, but.
Speaker 2: I gotta leave it all the way over there, because
Speaker 2: you know, I got a black and white rug, and
Speaker 2: every time I spill something, I spill it on the
Speaker 2: white part.
Speaker 1: So it's happy Black History Month. That's how it should be.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's the other way to look at it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: The black side is still clean. The white side dingy
Speaker 1: fills on brand. Hey, Marie, I was actually thinking about
Speaker 1: getting a steamer for my apartment, Like a steamer, like
Speaker 1: to steam the floors and the carpet. You think that
Speaker 1: should be the move? Or?
Speaker 2: No, don't you have a cleaning man? You don't even clean?
Speaker 2: Does say he come with his own supply?
Speaker 1: No, you know he comes from the Bronx, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he would bring a whole steamer to
Speaker 1: eat New York. What you think the steamer's gonna do
Speaker 1: to your house?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: It's gonna get rid of the cats. Tell us walk
Speaker 2: us through the thought process. Ye, I think it's just
Speaker 2: good it's good.
Speaker 1: It says, it's good to disinfect the floors, it's good
Speaker 1: to get stains out of the carpet.
Speaker 2: You know what else does that sweeping, mopping, vacuuming. You
Speaker 2: could do all of those things. You don't need to
Speaker 2: get a steamer for your house. Okay, so the verdict's out.
Speaker 2: There will be no steamer at Sydney's apartment. Great, Marie,
Speaker 2: how are you feeling? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I feel like you said all that, but you're looking
Speaker 1: at the tracking number for the steamer you just ordered.
Speaker 1: I feel like you wants already en route. No, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no. I first of all, I wanted to check
Speaker 1: in with my Black Lady counsel and you said no.
Speaker 1: So that's it's a no. Who told you you needed
Speaker 1: a steamer? Friend the Facebook adds Marie, I need you
Speaker 1: to take me off Facebook. I gotta get all. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but every day there's something that I'm like,
Speaker 1: I need this. I didn't talk about it, and I
Speaker 1: need it.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody on this zoom has been on
Speaker 2: Facebook this.
Speaker 1: Year, in the last two years. I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: even Andrew. No, not at all.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I saw that your friend requested me though
Speaker 3: like a year ago.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, don't you fucking Andrew take that back. I
Speaker 1: don't remember friending you.
Speaker 3: Really because let me check. Let me check right now.
Speaker 2: Which okay, Well, lose people pull up receipts on this podcast.
Speaker 1: If there's any listeners out there that's looking for a producer,
Speaker 1: intern hot gay Sydney Ridle, I got you.
Speaker 3: A friend of Andrew Maguire on Facebook. Let it be official? Yeah, win,
Speaker 3: I don't let me Can I see the friendship?
Speaker 1: Well you're not making a lot of friends on Facebook hunt,
Speaker 1: so that could friend from several years ago.
Speaker 3: No friends since March twenty twenty, if that's any consolation.
Speaker 1: Well it's a dark time. It was right in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic, so yeah, that checks out right.
Speaker 1: To be fair, we was on lockdown in March twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: so I mean people were opening up their LinkedIn accounts,
Speaker 1: So don't do that. Don't come for me.
Speaker 2: Not none of these people here, nobody here was opening
Speaker 2: up their LinkedIn on March twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Anti who Marie. You know, I would love to start
Speaker 1: this off on a positive note. So I was wondering
Speaker 1: if you had any positivity to bring to the pod
Speaker 1: before we start.
Speaker 2: I got some positivity for that ass. So I went
Speaker 2: to stopping shop today to pick up a few items.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gona get up. I'm gonna start the
Speaker 2: day the week strong. I'm a grown up.
Speaker 1: First of all, the stopping shop.
Speaker 2: On Atlantic Avenue is not where you should go. Don't
Speaker 2: go there if you're ever in Brooklyn, because I went in,
Speaker 2: and I guess the time that I was there is
Speaker 2: like peak people asking you to get them stuff time.
Speaker 2: Because in one aisle, like four different people approached me
Speaker 2: at four different times. I'm looking at the green the pea, right,
Speaker 2: the sweet peas, the green peas, and some guy came
Speaker 2: up to me. We make got contact above his mask.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, he's kind of cute.
Speaker 1: He was like hey. I was like hey. He was like,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I was like I'm good.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, I make music. I'm selling it
Speaker 2: an album for a dollar. I said, whoa. I said,
Speaker 2: I said, good luck with that, and he was like,
Speaker 2: oh okay. Conversation over.
Speaker 1: He left.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the garbonzo beans. Now, some other dude
Speaker 2: comes up. A lady with lashes, these crazy heavy lashes.
Speaker 2: Comes up to me, Hi, Sis, you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: wondering if you could help me buy a couple of items.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Sis, I'm here to get my own groceries.
Speaker 1: I can't help you today. She's like, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Further down this same aisle, this young dude comes up.
Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, I'm not homeless. I have two dollars.
Speaker 2: I just want to know. I was like, bro, sorry,
Speaker 2: I said, it's a lot of people in here begging today.
Speaker 1: I can't help all of y'all. He was like, Marie,
Speaker 1: what were you wearing? Were you wearing your fur coat? Like?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Why they think you all had so much money that
Speaker 2: I had on my tea bos wig you know the
Speaker 2: Asia Week. Okay, she must have a chest tattoo with something.
Speaker 1: She's one of the wealthy auntie, wealthy auntie on the loose,
Speaker 1: got it, yo?
Speaker 2: So I like scared this young dude away. And then
Speaker 2: at the end of the aisle there was a dude
Speaker 2: kind of hanging out of a wheelchair, like literally like
Speaker 2: tilting out of the wheelchair, and I was like, yo.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, come on, Marie, what is about to happen
Speaker 1: right here. Come on, run these bits ciss that you're
Speaker 1: gonna do on in stories.
Speaker 2: Let's go. This is not a bit. It happened to
Speaker 2: me today. Not all of us use our podcast to
Speaker 2: try out material. Some of us are having actual conversations
Speaker 2: with the listeners.
Speaker 1: A wheelchair, a guy in a wheelchair, man in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: Not yeah, we've heard it all. Well hanging okay, show
Speaker 1: up hands. How many people think I'm lying? We we
Speaker 1: we So we have somebody who's selling a mixtape see
Speaker 1: sis an album.
Speaker 3: Wait, this is also in a story.
Speaker 2: Andrew stop and shop across from the Barclay Center today
Speaker 2: at noon. Okay, the nigga in the wheelchair, I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: if I make I didn't even want to make eye
Speaker 2: contact with him, and I was like, do you need help?
Speaker 1: And he was like no, And I was like, you
Speaker 1: don't need me to help you get out my way
Speaker 1: or nothing. Marie, you're being ablest. I'm not saying this.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when the listeners will write in the reviews,
Speaker 1: we're able lists, we're fat phoebic, but white phoebic.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just if it makes the listeners feel any better.
Speaker 2: Everybody that I was talking to was black. So what
Speaker 2: that makes me?
Speaker 1: Now, what that makes me? Now problematic? That's what it
Speaker 1: makes you, sis whatever. So when you didn't give him
Speaker 1: any money, I didn't, all right.
Speaker 4: So that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what happened today.
Speaker 2: And then I left the supermarket so fast I forgot
Speaker 2: half of the stuff that I went in there.
Speaker 1: To pick up. Now I gotta go back to the
Speaker 1: store tomorrow to get eggs. Well, Marie, I cannot relate
Speaker 1: because I went to the boat the other day and
Speaker 1: a woman asked me could I help her get a Kandish?
Speaker 1: And I thought she wanted me to pick the kindish
Speaker 1: up for her, or like order it for her, because
Speaker 1: she I guess she couldn't speak, but she wanted me
Speaker 1: to buy it. And uh, you know, a black woman
Speaker 1: asking for a Kannish very cultural thing. That it's for
Speaker 1: the Jews, it's for the juice. It's for the juice.
Speaker 1: Are you for the juice? Okay? You called me, you said,
Speaker 1: I'm running bits, but you run bit run? What meeting
Speaker 1: are you? Wait? Isn't a Kandish? Isn't that like a
Speaker 1: Jewish a Jewish dish? It's it's the way you said.
Speaker 1: It's the way you said for the Jews. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: getting older, Marie. This is just how it comes out
Speaker 1: of your mouth once you hit forty. No, a kanish,
Speaker 1: it's like a potato type like, no, it's not, it's
Speaker 1: not that. It's like a you know here, let me
Speaker 1: have kanishes at the bar, at the at the bodega bayou. Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Why is it astounding because nobody here knows what that is. Well,
Speaker 1: people are just not cultured, but okay. A kandish A
Speaker 1: kandish is a traditional Jewish snack food, consisting of a
Speaker 1: filling covered with dough that is typically baked and sometimes
Speaker 1: deep fried. Condishes are usually purchased from street vendors in
Speaker 1: urban areas with a large Jewish population. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a Jew in this neighborhood since I got in this bitch,
Speaker 1: but anyway, she asked for it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: well maybe maybe, I mean maybe her, maybe her homeless
Speaker 1: boyfriend is Jewish. I don't know, but her homeless. But
Speaker 1: I got it, but I got it for her. It
Speaker 1: was it was actually a dollar fifty and I said
Speaker 1: I had it, well, actually I had ten dollars out
Speaker 1: and That's why I was like, I was about to say,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have enough, but I got it anyway, Sydney,
Speaker 1: hold on hello, Yo, Sidney just picked up a yeah
Speaker 1: phone call. I gotta go. Okay, my deliveries outside one second, Marie,
Speaker 1: can you can you talk to Andrew for one second?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I'm on break. If Sidney's on break,
Speaker 1: I'm on break, I too, am on break. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not on break. I'm I told you that I
Speaker 1: was getting food. You could have thrown.
Speaker 2: You could have introed the guest, and we could have
Speaker 2: had a whole conversation without you.
Speaker 3: Is what.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have the conversation without their guests.
Speaker 1: I want to intro the guests.
Speaker 2: As soon as you get up, I'm gonna intro him. Bye,
Speaker 2: go go get your phone. Bye ah, and we're back.
Speaker 1: Listen. Nobody knows what a kanishi is, Andrew, did you
Speaker 1: google it? What the what the google images? A hot
Speaker 1: pocket with stuffing it?
Speaker 3: They look like a little like dumplings almost all right,
Speaker 3: like ready dumplings?
Speaker 2: Okay, well they sound nasty. Well let's bring the guests
Speaker 2: in just to get on Sidney's nerves. Uh, he's been
Speaker 2: on the podcast before. You love him, you know him.
Speaker 1: He's our esteemed light skin guests for Black History Month.
Speaker 2: Today, give it up for our hate expert or hating expert,
Speaker 2: Langston Kermit.
Speaker 4: Hey, what a what a Welcome to the most racist,
Speaker 4: problematic podcast available on the internet.
Speaker 1: Your podcast is more problematic than our podcast.
Speaker 4: I don't know, y'all, niggas are shining right now. You're
Speaker 4: not really acting up on this podcast. You went on
Speaker 4: a whole rant about how a wheelchair man didn't deserve money,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 2: I say, the wheelchairman didn't deserve money, but I needed
Speaker 2: him to get out my way.
Speaker 1: He was in the middle of the isld.
Speaker 4: That's not how I heard it. I heard you you
Speaker 4: say you wanted to scoot him out of your way
Speaker 4: so that you could close your fird coat like Cruella Divis.
Speaker 4: That's the way I heard all.
Speaker 1: It was a green trench.
Speaker 2: Second, if you're in the store and people are asking
Speaker 2: you for money or just out, because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of homeless people in La I'm not saying anybody at
Speaker 2: the supermarket was homeless today because they all looked.
Speaker 1: Very with homes.
Speaker 2: So when people approach you for money or ask you
Speaker 2: to buy them stuff.
Speaker 1: How do you usually react?
Speaker 4: See, here's the difference between LA and New York. And
Speaker 4: I forgot this very valuable tidbit now that I've been
Speaker 4: in LA as long as I have, is we keep
Speaker 4: ours outside, you know what I mean, Like, we're very
Speaker 4: unkind to our un housed friends, and it should be
Speaker 4: looked at and solved. But frankly, the one thing they
Speaker 4: do effectively is make sure the motherfuckers aren't allowed in
Speaker 4: businesses and certainly not allowed to beg for money when
Speaker 4: they come into business.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: When I lived in LA, I would see homeless people
Speaker 2: at the open mics, like on the buses at night
Speaker 2: time and at open mics doing stand up.
Speaker 4: So it was like, yeah, well that's not our business.
Speaker 4: They respect. They're not going to protect our best open
Speaker 4: micers in the world. They only care about the.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what happened to him,
Speaker 1: And he said he was outside. He's not outside, he's
Speaker 1: not picking up the phone call whatever.
Speaker 4: Girl, ain't nobody worried about your food? What we're talking about,
Speaker 4: we're talking.
Speaker 1: About the homeless community right now. Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: She coming in.
Speaker 4: Talking about food and her Postmates delivery. What you order,
Speaker 4: tell us what you order?
Speaker 1: I ordered salmon Karioki with a what's the wrong with that?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's salmon? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Gonna put I was gonna put that tone on whatever
Speaker 4: you said. It made no difference. You could have said
Speaker 4: the most reasonable meal, and I was gonna be like,
Speaker 4: this is a little dumb ass.
Speaker 1: Okay, shut out? And then is your sides or something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's it's a it's a bento box. Okay, here he is?
Speaker 1: Here is you see this? You see how she jump
Speaker 1: in and I'm not on the mic and everything.
Speaker 4: Right, she don't even care no timing to this. She
Speaker 4: just is answering the way she would regularly answer.
Speaker 1: Now she's upset, and you know what happened. She probably
Speaker 1: been the wrong addressing m.
Speaker 4: HM of her own home, of her own home. She's
Speaker 4: not even threw a microphone like Frankie.
Speaker 1: Sorry. He was running like I had ordered it a
Speaker 1: while ago, and they were running behind, and now he's
Speaker 1: even more behind, and it's like, what the fuck? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize, Linkston. I know that you're very
Speaker 1: busy I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I am devastated by this unprofessional behavior.
Speaker 1: Langston. What would you be doing if you weren't on
Speaker 1: the podcast right now?
Speaker 4: My wife wanted to go to bed bathroom beyond and
Speaker 4: I got out of it because of this.
Speaker 1: So what you should be doing is thinking us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, listen. I appreciate what you've done, but
Speaker 4: I also expect that this is going to run long
Speaker 4: because Sydney wanted Sam and Terioki in the middle of
Speaker 4: which means that it then is going to obstruct my
Speaker 4: evening in a different kind of way because.
Speaker 2: Because you know no thing, you know she's gonna be
Speaker 2: eating it on the pod.
Speaker 1: No, I don't, Marie. When's the last time she's gonna
Speaker 1: duck down and be like, when's the last time I
Speaker 1: haven't done that, Murrie? Last Wednesday? I don't know, Marie,
Speaker 1: where's the like we're the sisterhood in this bitch like Sidney,
Speaker 1: We're literally watching you ordering getting up to go get it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, where's the sister who? I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what you're doing.
Speaker 4: This is exciting. I've never seen a friendship terror party
Speaker 4: in front of my own eyes, but this is you.
Speaker 1: Just have my back she'll just like throw me under
Speaker 1: the bus, Sydney. The bus is the Postmates delivery man,
Speaker 1: Wing Sam and Teriyaki. First of all, I had set
Speaker 1: it up top I say, hey, guys, I had ordered
Speaker 1: way before this podcast was starting. They're behind the behind.
Speaker 1: This is not my mom when you say way before?
Speaker 1: Did you an hour ago? Friend? An hour ago? At
Speaker 1: eight twenty two? Yeah, all right, guys whatever, She's.
Speaker 4: Never gonna forgive us because it's terrifying.
Speaker 2: I just I'm like, come on now, she's just hungry
Speaker 2: because she hasn't eaten anything yet today this seminaryokey is
Speaker 2: about to be her first meal.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yes, absolutely, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: That that ain't got nothing to do with us, baby girl.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Good to know, Marie. Good to know. Thank you,
Speaker 1: appreciate you much. Sis.
Speaker 2: I feel like when people, when the reviews come in
Speaker 2: for this episode, they're not gonna say Marie did anything wrong, Sidney.
Speaker 4: They're gonna say, man, leanson, sure sounded uncomfortable. The reviews
Speaker 4: are in, and that nigga was nervous. It went from
Speaker 4: being kind of silly to.
Speaker 1: Not silly no more, but didn't tell us when it
Speaker 1: got not silly no more.
Speaker 4: Oh you were giggling, and then salmon Aryoki got two
Speaker 4: minutes later and oh boy, oh boy, change the energy
Speaker 4: real fast.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Do what do you guys want? Whatever you
Speaker 1: want with the with the pod, it's it's above me now,
Speaker 1: it's above me, not me.
Speaker 4: I'm still here. I'm stuck in it, right on, right
Speaker 4: on ground zero of the eruption of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Here, I am Sydney. You order food during the hobby Hunters.
Speaker 4: Stop at I'm asking that.
Speaker 1: That's a real question.
Speaker 4: Uh oh, now we're bringing up other shit. Yeah, Marie
Speaker 4: didn't have to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? Since I
Speaker 1: ordered it an hour ago. You'll be in your house
Speaker 1: and you'll come like twelve minutes say you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I started doing my hair before the pod.
Speaker 2: Like it's it's okay, Sydney, I'll do that at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the episode, and then we'll start we'll do
Speaker 2: the podcast and I'm not interrupting and like getting like, we're.
Speaker 1: Still talking about your fish. That's not even there yet.
Speaker 1: It's not my fault. I ordered it in an hour
Speaker 1: before the podcast. It was supposed to get here before
Speaker 1: they're late. This is not my fault.
Speaker 4: Where'd you order it from?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: At least A lovely is a restaurant?
Speaker 1: I order from it all the time, and it's always
Speaker 1: on time. It always thirty minutes. I can't pronounce the
Speaker 1: name of That's why you're feeling, because you can't pronounce
Speaker 1: the name. They were like, she she's playing with us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play with too, Oh my god. Yeah, it's great. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to do. It's
Speaker 1: it's still not here. He told me two minutes. It's
Speaker 1: been two minutes. They there are right. It's very behind.
Speaker 4: And it's either been two minutes or the longest thirty
Speaker 4: seconds of my life.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's been longer than two minutes.
Speaker 2: And now we nineteen minutes in and when Sydney came back,
Speaker 2: it was thirteen, so it's been right a right, So Langston,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for wasting your time today.
Speaker 4: No, I'm chilling. I listen. Here's what I would love, ladies.
Speaker 4: Let's let's get Sydney her food, let's recalibrate, let's be
Speaker 4: friends again, and then let's talk about hating shit. That's
Speaker 4: that's the kind of evening I would love for us
Speaker 4: all to have.
Speaker 2: Thank you for mediating this, lady, I mean, hold on,
Speaker 2: let me be realistic here. If the food get there
Speaker 2: in twenty minutes, we're gonna start the podcast again in
Speaker 2: twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna have him leave the food at the door.
Speaker 1: How about that. I'll leave the food at the door.
Speaker 1: I won't go and get it. How about that. I'll
Speaker 1: do that. I'll do that for the pod because I
Speaker 1: apologize for this happening. I'm so sorry. This is so unprofessional.
Speaker 1: I really apologize. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I don't know, kind a weird way, a weird.
Speaker 1: Podcast, and it didn't sound You're sorry, didn't feel sinceious.
Speaker 4: Man to stop, I'm antagonistic.
Speaker 1: You are, which is it? No? No, no, it's totally fine.
Speaker 1: Like sin, We appreciate you for spending your time dealing
Speaker 1: with this unprofessional podcast that's from the ghetto. And it's
Speaker 1: from the ghetto because of me. Oh, the podcast is
Speaker 1: from the ghetto. Yeah, because it's it's from me for me,
Speaker 1: I'm making it. Because we're now almost thirty minutes in
Speaker 1: and we have not started, but we have that ce. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So so what is the plan that friend, Cause we
Speaker 1: can still have a conversation, but you're saying that we can't.
Speaker 1: We can have a conversation. I feel like as.
Speaker 3: Soon as you have a conversation and the Seminaryoky is gonna.
Speaker 1: Show, I'm not gonna go get it. I just said
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna go. I'm gonna have him leave
Speaker 1: it at the door. I'm gonna let it be cold
Speaker 1: so that I can do this podcast.
Speaker 4: Is he gonna be able to get into your Apartment's
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 1: Able to get in an apartment.
Speaker 4: Though, it's just gonna sit outside.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do, Sydney. You're that seems unreasonable
Speaker 1: and the whole, the whole thing is being unreasonable because
Speaker 1: all right, blame for something that I had no control over. Well,
Speaker 1: you could have called you should you could have ate
Speaker 1: earlier this nighttime, so you had control over that. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing this with you, Marie. You always start things
Speaker 1: literally a minute before the podcast. You're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I had to go to the bathroom, and
Speaker 1: then you're here and we're like, well, why didn't you
Speaker 1: just go to the bathroom? Hold on, Sidney, don't do that. Please,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Me going to the bathroom is not
Speaker 1: a twenty two minute conversation on our podcast. Don't do that.
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all be some own trending again, and it's not
Speaker 4: good news, Lanxton.
Speaker 1: What is she trending for? Let's let's let's let's switch
Speaker 1: gears a little bit, because.
Speaker 4: She went on a long rant saying that women sit
Speaker 4: around talking about all the different qualities that they expect
Speaker 4: of a man, a certain height requirement, a certain money requirement,
Speaker 4: a certain education, a certain connection to their family and friends,
Speaker 4: and you all don't This is her words, not mine,
Speaker 4: but you all don't have that for yourselves, that you
Speaker 4: haven't spoken to your own mothers in six months, that
Speaker 4: you expect me to be deeply connected to my family.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's true with people of both sexes.
Speaker 2: People have sure like there are lots of people who
Speaker 2: are like unqualified for the person that they think they
Speaker 2: should be with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not all women and not all men.
Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. But it's only funny if
Speaker 4: be some owns getting made fun of for dumb shit
Speaker 4: that she's did without any of that perspective.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's be someone with somebody right now.
Speaker 4: I would I would say with with the hand of God,
Speaker 4: b Simone is isn't a relationship with the hand of God?
Speaker 4: And unfortunately it seems to be God's backhand at the moment,
Speaker 4: but he got that hand on her.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, was b Simone not begging a man under
Speaker 2: five to nine to like her? And was bigging up
Speaker 2: Danny Lee and basically saying she damn near one because
Speaker 2: she's Latina. She has the self esteem of a broom
Speaker 2: but wants to push down, not going for that.
Speaker 1: We love Twitter, Oh my god, it just it will
Speaker 1: never stops. It's undefeated.
Speaker 4: My favorite part of the video is she's she's not
Speaker 4: wearing a bra in the video while she's like slapping
Speaker 4: a table and ranting and her jingles are jangling and whatnot,
Speaker 4: and you can see her getting more and more self
Speaker 4: conscious of it as she gets more and more confident
Speaker 4: in her backwards ass frant about about being the better
Speaker 4: version of yourself in order to find the man you deserve. Sydney,
Speaker 4: I pray to God, you're about to go get this salmon.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't I do. I personally just don't
Speaker 1: they got a twenty percent tip. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I want to take it back. I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is about. This is like over, this is an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. The food has to be cold
Speaker 1: on God. So this is truly not my fault.
Speaker 4: But what them temperature is like in New York right now?
Speaker 1: Like thirty Alexa, what's the temperature?
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you ask Alexa, you got money.
Speaker 1: Thirty two degrees? I didn't. I should have asked my Google.
Speaker 1: Hey Google, shut up, Alexa. She said, enjoy your Monday. Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why women feel like they need to
Speaker 2: make these proclamations about other women and post them to
Speaker 2: their followers, but not not all women are like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always I maintain this feeling that I think
Speaker 4: that it's often the choice of trying to impress some dudes,
Speaker 4: Like it's a very specific type of dude that's gonna
Speaker 4: look at that and be like, yeah, this bitch gets
Speaker 4: And it's like, I guess that's who they're aiming for,
Speaker 4: because it's definitely not other women who are going to
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, you nailed it, Sis.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I think it's more about It's easier
Speaker 1: to talk about other people than to talk about yourself.
Speaker 1: It's easier to say, well, you've done this that that
Speaker 1: that's wrong, but to look inward and be like, this
Speaker 1: is actually my story. It's so hard to present that.
Speaker 1: It's like, why are you talking about everybody else's business
Speaker 1: except your own?
Speaker 2: That's weird, right, Like why is it be someone talking
Speaker 2: about women who sell books that they plageiarize and then say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is a manifestation book, Like why is she not
Speaker 2: talking about women that do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what that beat stand for?
Speaker 5: Focused on that, find out what the bee stands for,
Speaker 5: and then we can for you can get into all
Speaker 5: the rocks and wrongs.
Speaker 4: I probaby got it is because I still got that
Speaker 4: tension in my chest.
Speaker 1: I don't, but this is you are you pe okay? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Lang sty? What did you eat today? How about that? Listen?
Speaker 1: What food did you eat today?
Speaker 4: So far? I've had I don't only have one meal
Speaker 4: as well, but it's it's much earlier here. I had
Speaker 4: a tender greens plate.
Speaker 2: Oh, I enjoyed like tender greens. But that's only an
Speaker 2: l a thing.
Speaker 4: Oh, they don't have tender greens in New York.
Speaker 1: What did you get protein? Protein?
Speaker 4: I got myself a tune in the swas right. I
Speaker 4: believe it's French.
Speaker 1: I believe so so or a whole.
Speaker 4: Bunch of ship. How are we doing on that? On that? Samaria?
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start the podcast. We're starting it hot.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be worth it. It's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 4: I can't wait. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, no, whoever starts? Okay, Well, we we
Speaker 1: left off with Marie talking about her like a shop
Speaker 1: right homeless expedition, and we ended on b simone, So
Speaker 1: I think we can just uh intro Langston and move
Speaker 1: on from there. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: All right, y'all got to be nice to each other first.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got to play that. Marie doesn't. She doesn't want
Speaker 1: to move on. She's got like the attitude face. And
Speaker 1: it's like you have Marie attitude on entire episode. You
Speaker 1: guys are attacking me for yeah, like a white woman
Speaker 1: right now, attacking you. That's the language that people who
Speaker 1: are not being attacked. Yous attacking. You're giving me a
Speaker 1: hard time about the delivery. I didn't even say anything else.
Speaker 1: You did Marie, we're gonna run the tapes back. You
Speaker 1: did I said, I didn't say anything else.
Speaker 2: You said we want to restart, So go ahead and
Speaker 2: control instances, Aris, But.
Speaker 4: We're gonna cut through it and we're gonna have a
Speaker 4: great time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get more wine. I'm gonna bring a bottle
Speaker 1: in here because in the City introduced the guest. No, Marie,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this like either we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: right or we could cut the we could cut it
Speaker 1: tonight because I'm not I'm not doing this. I was
Speaker 1: an accident. I'm sorry, and I just I want to
Speaker 1: have a good posity.
Speaker 2: We have been having a good podcast. I feel like
Speaker 2: you're missing it. That's what we I'm fine, Andrew's fine.
Speaker 3: We're gonna listen back to this and laugh and only Gray.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, Leangston, any input here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a chill in the air, a cold chill
Speaker 4: running up my spine. It feels like sleepy hollow in
Speaker 4: my home. But fighting through it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move forward. Were hat We have
Speaker 1: a good old guess that we haven't had in over
Speaker 1: many many years. But when he came here, he was
Speaker 1: a light skinned expert. And now he's come to one
Speaker 1: up that expert. I mean he's been on many many
Speaker 1: shows after that, very one of our most famous friends
Speaker 1: give it up for Langston Kerman and he's our hated
Speaker 1: It's like deja vu high Langston.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, it's good to see y'all with no other context.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: What a dream to see you both with no other
Speaker 4: information ahead of this moment. Oh, what a treat.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yes, and Andrew you as well.
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to leave you out. What a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's great to meet you.
Speaker 1: Obsession Langston, you seem like such a lovable, likable person.
Speaker 1: So hating expert.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I this is all a ruse. This
Speaker 4: is a long con that I've I've learned to build
Speaker 4: over the years to uh to get all my hate out.
Speaker 4: I realize that it's easier to just smile and wave
Speaker 4: than it is to scowl and let people know how
Speaker 4: you really feel, especially if you don't want to square up,
Speaker 4: which I do not more often.
Speaker 1: Right, fighting is no fighting.
Speaker 4: It's not my thing. I'll roach you. I'll write something
Speaker 4: backhanded on a piece of paper and hand it to
Speaker 4: you as I run away, but I don't want to
Speaker 4: fight nobody that ain't my Shiit.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was gonna say, have you ever been in
Speaker 1: a fight?
Speaker 4: I have been in fights before. I would say I'm
Speaker 4: at a I'm at a like a two and two record,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. This kid Ari, who was
Speaker 4: a friend of mine growing up, smacked the ship out
Speaker 4: of me one time when we were fighting over basketball
Speaker 4: and who I didn't win that one, but then I
Speaker 4: got another fights in school where like I did all right,
Speaker 4: nobody was walking away like, hey, don't fuck with Langston
Speaker 4: no more. That nigga's crazy. But I did pretty good.
Speaker 1: So you're so you're like, I'm I'm being easy going
Speaker 1: for the system, but really and internally you're like you
Speaker 1: hate everything. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's very few things, particularly related to the things
Speaker 4: that I care about that I enjoy.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds very New York of you. That sounds
Speaker 1: like through and through a New Yorker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm not from New York and I ain't
Speaker 4: got no reason to behave we're kind people. Yeah, nope. Well,
Speaker 4: Chicago's an exception. I think I've maintained this for a
Speaker 4: lot of years that Chicago is a city built on hate,
Speaker 4: and like, that's how we propel each other forward, is
Speaker 4: by being haters through and through.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a bunch of different types of
Speaker 2: people who listen to people from all over the world.
Speaker 2: Were very famous international. So what is a hater like?
Speaker 2: If you don't like something, are you a hater or
Speaker 2: is it more than that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: I think that's a good question. I think that hating
Speaker 4: is not liking something that you could have just let live.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, the Oxford definition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I imagine. I imagine people with a
Speaker 4: more whole heart, you know what I mean, if the whole,
Speaker 4: if all the pieces in your heart are fully formed.
Speaker 4: You see something you don't like and you process it
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't care for that too much,
Speaker 4: and you move on with your day. You have a
Speaker 4: nice a nice sam and teryoki if you will, you
Speaker 4: enjoy a nice meal, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But a hater, yeah, now, a hater, you're gonna let
Speaker 4: that simmer. You're not gonna be able to enjoy your
Speaker 4: meal because you got that you got that extra sitting in.
Speaker 2: Your chest right, You're gonna write a dissertation about it
Speaker 2: online and be like, well, I never.
Speaker 1: Liked anything that this person did anyway.
Speaker 4: And that's that's where I take issue. I don't go
Speaker 4: online with my shit. I keep it private. It's it's
Speaker 4: not meant for the public. But I do tell quite
Speaker 4: a few people in group chats and smaller circles, smaller
Speaker 4: networks of people about how I feel.
Speaker 1: And that's perfect because now you're on this pod and
Speaker 1: we can really get into this hateration holeration. Now I
Speaker 1: look at a hater. I look at a hater and
Speaker 1: something is good and they are a hater, and they're
Speaker 1: just gonna they're gonna shoot on it regardless of how
Speaker 1: Oh that's how I look at So.
Speaker 4: You think, okay, so to be a hater, something has
Speaker 4: to to objectively be quality, and then somebody has to
Speaker 4: be coming in and just trying to scuff it up
Speaker 4: for no good reason.
Speaker 1: Yes, scuff is a good word, thank you.
Speaker 4: I uh, I freestyled that one. I'd say that that.
Speaker 4: The difference for me is that I don't actually think
Speaker 4: that that many things exist that are objectively good. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 4: I think I think there's a lot of ship that
Speaker 4: people will tell you are good is good, or tell
Speaker 4: you or want you to believe is good. But if
Speaker 4: you really look at the ship, it's fine. It's all right.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of fine that people elevate to
Speaker 2: amazing or excellent. Soon, just give us all things that
Speaker 2: you hate that you think most people like.
Speaker 4: Oh and I don't know how well. I don't know
Speaker 4: how to do this because now you got that weird uh,
Speaker 4: that weird motion going you.
Speaker 2: Well, no, because you got I but because I agree
Speaker 2: with the definition that you and Sydney both gave kind
Speaker 2: of But I also but I also don't like a
Speaker 2: lot of things that people like. And sometimes I don't
Speaker 2: like things that people like specifically because so many people
Speaker 2: like it. Like for me, sometimes the more people enjoy
Speaker 2: one particular thing, the more I want to just like
Speaker 2: not be a part of that at all.
Speaker 4: Oh see, I don't I don't know that I have that.
Speaker 4: I don't think I get oppositional that. I think that's oppositional.
Speaker 4: I think I would define that differently. Like that to
Speaker 4: me is like, y'all motherfuckers ain't gonna tell me how
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to feel. And I think I hope that
Speaker 4: my hating, while unhealthy and probably gonna kill me by
Speaker 4: fifty five is not rooted in just like a want
Speaker 4: to to uh, just move against the grain if you will.
Speaker 6: Okay, But but this, this is this is where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: hating you could if something you think is bad.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to think that it's bad. But
Speaker 1: I think that if you're going out of your way
Speaker 1: to trash it publicly, I think that's like real hater
Speaker 1: behavior that it was. It's unnecessary. You just not like
Speaker 1: it and not watch it.
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'd ask you when and this is
Speaker 4: a very R Kelly quote of it, when we say public,
Speaker 4: how public are we talking? You know, you say are
Speaker 4: you talking? How are we talking?
Speaker 1: That's an R. Kelly quote.
Speaker 4: You never heard that he was talking to uh, what's
Speaker 4: his name? Uh? I can't remember his name from BT
Speaker 4: He had the afro real skinny guy, Terrey. He was
Speaker 4: talking to Terray in the interview right after the trial
Speaker 4: after he had been acquitted. And Terray's first question to R.
Speaker 4: Kelly is Robert, do you like teenage girls? And then
Speaker 4: he thinks for a second, he thinks real hard on him.
Speaker 4: He says, all right, when you say teenage, how old
Speaker 4: are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Literally thirteen to eighteen, I say thirteen to nineteen.
Speaker 4: I'd say nineteen is included as well.
Speaker 1: Anything with the word teen in it. Robert Well, to
Speaker 1: answer your question, I think like some journalists they go
Speaker 1: out of their way, or people who are critics they
Speaker 1: go out of Like critics, I think you should be
Speaker 1: focused on the stuff that you like, and you not
Speaker 1: writing about the things that you don't like. Is speaking
Speaker 1: volumes that oh it must maybe it's not good because
Speaker 1: you're not giving it that energy. Who go on and
Speaker 1: on and on on the internet to be like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that specially wasn't good, that comedian is not good, this
Speaker 1: was that movie is trash, and they more so talk
Speaker 1: about how bad things are than the good things. I
Speaker 1: think they're using their platform and in a bad way.
Speaker 1: They could do better. It's just focused on something.
Speaker 2: Like a critic's job is to be critical of the
Speaker 2: thing that they're reviewing, and they're haters a lot of
Speaker 2: I think a lot of critics want to be in
Speaker 2: the position that they're critiquing. They're like, oh, I wish
Speaker 2: I could make that movie, or I wish I could
Speaker 2: be an actor, But they're not.
Speaker 1: If you look at a lot of the critics especially
Speaker 1: in comedy. They wanted to be comedians and failed, and
Speaker 1: now they're critiquing comedy. Who the fuck are you? You
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't even work out for you, So now
Speaker 1: you're in a position to be like, yeah, that special
Speaker 1: homophobic blah blah blah, and it's just like, dude, talk
Speaker 1: about the stuff that you like. I was that.
Speaker 4: I don't. I take a lot of issue with critics.
Speaker 4: While I do love hate and I live by it.
Speaker 4: I thrive in it. I was born here, wallow, I
Speaker 4: wallow in it. I do take a lot of issue
Speaker 4: for the exact reasons that you're saying, Sidney, But then
Speaker 4: I think about, like, who would I want to critique
Speaker 4: the actual shit, Like if I wanted like an honest
Speaker 4: perspective on what it is? And I don't think comics
Speaker 4: could do that either. I don't think our peers could
Speaker 4: genuinely give us a real response of like what the
Speaker 4: shit is?
Speaker 1: No either, Nope, because a lot of people that in
Speaker 1: that part of it.
Speaker 2: I agree with Sidney and that if when you listen
Speaker 2: to comics review other stand up specials, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people who you will use that time to
Speaker 2: hate because they didn't get that opportunity because they didn't
Speaker 2: get to shoot that and blah blah, blah blah. I
Speaker 2: think there's more hate there. But I also think people
Speaker 2: thought a word hater around. I mean ever since Maino
Speaker 2: did that song in two thousand whatever everybody, and it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I just don't like this. I don't think everything is hating.
Speaker 2: Sometimes something is not good.
Speaker 4: I do think I will say that that. I think
Speaker 4: the advancement of that is when you you start to
Speaker 4: try to sway other people's opinions on that issue, right
Speaker 4: that be it's small or large, at the point that
Speaker 4: you're like now taking this to a larger group and
Speaker 4: being like, hey, this is stupid, right you're you you're
Speaker 4: adding some hate to the mix. I won't call you
Speaker 4: a hater, but you're your hate ish. You're you're a
Speaker 4: Kenya Bears pilot hate. I mean to the Disney Channel
Speaker 4: with Disney plus hate ish is what he's working on.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so lengthon, You're not gonna tell us some
Speaker 2: some things that you don't like, Well, no.
Speaker 4: Because then we're going to fall into the the the
Speaker 4: dangerous space that I've set up for my I've created
Speaker 4: quite a net I don't want to lose my men.
Speaker 2: But it could be lightning. It could be lightning round
Speaker 2: and we'll just be like, oh I like that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't like that. Oh yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: think that's a good one.
Speaker 4: All right, y'all started off. Y'all say what you like,
Speaker 4: and then I'll tell you why it's stupid.
Speaker 1: I love that, Okay, I like the I like the
Speaker 1: animation soul.
Speaker 4: I thought I was nice. I love a good story
Speaker 4: about mortality, and uh I did. I will say that
Speaker 4: all the critiques of it being a black film were
Speaker 4: dumb as fuck, and I hated the response. Okay, we're
Speaker 4: talking about hate. I hate so many of the takes
Speaker 4: that have now become very common in terms of black media,
Speaker 4: where we see a black person and then it has
Speaker 4: to now be representation of all blackness. Saul was not
Speaker 4: a black film. It was a film about mortality starring
Speaker 4: Jamie Fox drawn as a Roy Wood Junior type character. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that not the same thing, do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, that's not a black film. It wasn't
Speaker 4: built for black people. The fact that we can identify
Speaker 4: ourselves in it just means a type of progress that
Speaker 4: we should be celebrating, whereas I think Princess and the
Speaker 4: Frog is much more of an actual like slight against
Speaker 4: black people. If you want to unpack that in some
Speaker 4: kind of way.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because she was a frog for ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the movie, and then the rest of the movie
Speaker 1: she was a maid's daughter. She was a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it. It's a reflection of their inability
Speaker 4: to imagine us as anything other than some real shit
Speaker 4: like it being based in New Orleans, like y'all didn't
Speaker 4: make up a bunch of whimsical ass countries for every
Speaker 4: other princess. That's a conversation to be had. But that
Speaker 4: nigga sold he was. That's just playing at the piano
Speaker 4: and being his best self. I got no complaints.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Andrews. It's something that you like or.
Speaker 3: Hate or are we hating on Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 4: Well, I've never liked him, so yeah, Justin Timberlake is
Speaker 4: a dumb bitch. I think he. I think he madipuld listen.
Speaker 4: I was a big fan for years. I'd be lying
Speaker 4: if I said I didn't enjoy the music twenty twenty experience.
Speaker 4: I saw it. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Oh you went to the show so good.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just I just meant with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you really gave him your dollars?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 4: But nah, yeah, he's a bad guy. That that apology
Speaker 4: was an embarrassment, just some like slightly apologizing for really
Speaker 4: mean things that he did to a number of people
Speaker 4: over the years without any accountability. Is you don't get
Speaker 4: to just be like I might have heard some folks
Speaker 4: and my bad on that one.
Speaker 2: He said, I'll get you guys next time. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna like move walking off beat when he was late.
Speaker 4: And like, hey, Janet, I'm gonna get you a new bro.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take care of you, baby girl.
Speaker 3: Up.
Speaker 1: He's such a mess.
Speaker 2: We don't like him. Okay, something random that I like
Speaker 2: or don't like?
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? What we're doing?
Speaker 4: I don't I forgot, I don't know this y'all show.
Speaker 2: Well, I was asking you to listen some things and
Speaker 2: we was going just lightning round it.
Speaker 1: That's what I asked.
Speaker 4: I'm scared. I'm scared to tell you about the things
Speaker 4: that actually upset me because it's too close in proximity
Speaker 4: and too dangerous for for anybody's brand. You guys have
Speaker 4: a brand to protect too.
Speaker 1: No, we don't. I don't think you really understand the
Speaker 1: pot I mean, we've been doing it for four years.
Speaker 1: We have said the messiest, some of the outlandish, problematic
Speaker 1: things on here, and we're I mean, we're still working,
Speaker 1: We're still I don't think it's that problematic.
Speaker 2: The things that we've said, We've were just honest and
Speaker 2: we stand in our our truths.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. I've never I mean, I've made
Speaker 1: I've made fun of people on here that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they could definitely listen to this and be like, but
Speaker 1: I'm not making We're not making blanket terrible statements about
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we know besh community, but that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's yes, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I always forget that y'all called beige white people beige.
Speaker 4: Growing up, I was referred to as beige. And it
Speaker 4: never not doesn't hurt my feelings. When I hear y'all
Speaker 4: say it doesn't hurt feelings, or it does, it does
Speaker 4: hurt my feelings every single time. It reminds me of
Speaker 4: a story when I was growing up. My my mother's
Speaker 4: second husband. Uh listen, she's at four, Uh second.
Speaker 1: Yes, we do. Mom push your mom's name Wanda, Wanda, Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think this one's gonna stick. He's a
Speaker 4: good man. They live in Ghana now. Anyway, My mom,
Speaker 4: her second husband, their family lived in Cabrini Green, which
Speaker 4: is a very famous project building or series of buildings,
Speaker 4: the collection of buildings if you will, in Chicago. They
Speaker 4: no longer exist, but we went to visit them one
Speaker 4: time for Easter and we were in the building and
Speaker 4: I had never met his family before. This was my
Speaker 4: first time meeting the family. And I walked in the
Speaker 4: building and we're sitting in their apartment. And then the children,
Speaker 4: the other children of this home, there's like four of them,
Speaker 4: called to the other neighbors in the building. They like,
Speaker 4: go have a meeting out in the hallway of this
Speaker 4: project building. And then they bring the neighbors to the
Speaker 4: door and they go, hey, y'all, look at our white cousin.
Speaker 4: Look at them, look at our white cousin. They make
Speaker 4: me stand in the doorway so that they could show
Speaker 4: their friends, their peers that they have a white cousin.
Speaker 4: And then I told their daddy and they got the
Speaker 4: ass will. So you know, I'm a big snitch too.
Speaker 4: We can do that if y'all more focused on snitching,
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: That too, well, Lexton, did you used to be like
Speaker 2: a really pale child?
Speaker 4: Because no, these were just children who didn't see white
Speaker 4: people that often. And I was the closest thing that
Speaker 4: they knew as a reference.
Speaker 1: You. You're the You're the Tannis of the light Skins
Speaker 1: that I know. You got some color color on your face?
Speaker 3: Yeah, mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well your is your is your dad? Wait is
Speaker 1: who's who's my father?
Speaker 4: Is white?
Speaker 1: On your side? Your father's white?
Speaker 4: The part is the white one.
Speaker 1: We did. We did talk about that many years ago
Speaker 1: on the Light Skinned Expert. Y'all go back to that.
Speaker 1: It was great. Okay, So you don't you don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about what you actually hate. And I understand
Speaker 1: that because you know you're you're on the boys. You're
Speaker 1: right for many shows, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, you have I can get into general themes. Let's
Speaker 4: get into some themes. I think that's a good place
Speaker 4: to land us. Maybe that'll that'll help open this flower
Speaker 4: up a little bit. Her.
Speaker 1: You are the cousin.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm sometimes I'm a little Australian who knows why
Speaker 4: I talk the way I talk.
Speaker 1: Mate. Okay, mate, if you here's something, If you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just I was just gonna say, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna be the hating expert, I need you to hate something.
Speaker 1: I need to hear something.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into it. Here's something that's been ruffling
Speaker 4: my feathers as a late Uh yeah, this is grinding
Speaker 4: and ship out of my gears. I take a lot
Speaker 4: of issue with the the manipulative behavior of the Internet.
Speaker 4: There's been quite a lot of things that I've been
Speaker 4: tracking as of late. Claudia Conway. Let's get into that.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of manipulation happening around this girl who
Speaker 4: who is basically just a a misbehaving child. If you
Speaker 4: ask me, as a sixteen year old behaving the way
Speaker 4: that many sixteen year olds do. I'm not calling that
Speaker 4: good or bad, or deciding that she's safe or unsafe.
Speaker 4: I truly don't know. But what I do know is
Speaker 4: all you sick fucks at home who are sitting there
Speaker 4: and retweeting her and telling her how brave she is
Speaker 4: or fucking crazy you're thirty. There's no sixteen year old
Speaker 4: in the world that I would ever like, big up
Speaker 4: and be like, you're so brave, you're a champion, you
Speaker 4: should be supported. Shut the fuck up and figure it
Speaker 4: out like the rest of the sixteen year old?
Speaker 1: How old is the little girl that's traveling in the
Speaker 1: world and not going to school on a boat? How
Speaker 1: is that girl who's that, Greta Breda. How old is she?
Speaker 4: I believe she's also sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: She got to be like nine or ten or something
Speaker 1: like that. No, I think she's older than that school
Speaker 1: since two thousand and two? How old is she?
Speaker 3: Greta is eighteen?
Speaker 4: Eighteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, I know, given, Okay, Wow, she looks good. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well she's been she's been through a lot, so she
Speaker 1: was younger than eighteen. Good for her.
Speaker 4: Well, she's got a green skincare program, is what she does.
Speaker 4: She's all green, no pesticides or preservatives.
Speaker 1: That ozone layer serum that she using. I love this,
Speaker 1: I mean, but now she's on But now the Conway
Speaker 1: Chick is America.
Speaker 4: And I think that's hugely unhealthy. And shame on Katy Perry,
Speaker 4: Shame on Lionel Richie, and shame on that other one
Speaker 4: whose name I don't know, for involving themselves in the
Speaker 4: life of a child who is not particularly talented by
Speaker 4: all accounts. It wasn't like she nailed the audition. You
Speaker 4: guys are just advancing this so that you can advance
Speaker 4: a problematic story and create a Britney Spears. This is
Speaker 4: how you fucking create the ship because we obsess over
Speaker 4: a human being instead of being honest about a sickness
Speaker 4: that's happening.
Speaker 1: I feel so, you know, I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: feel like, when's the last thing we talked about American Idol.
Speaker 2: American Idol needs this more than they need anything else.
Speaker 2: It's not about Claudia. It's it's not about Kelly Ann.
Speaker 2: It's let's do this thing. It's gonna propel us as
Speaker 2: a trending topic. It's gonna be something that people are
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about on news and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Because I watched a little piece of the audition and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I have to cut this off.
Speaker 1: I don't know what key she's singing on. This is
Speaker 1: all she don't know. She just being sundin And that's okay.
Speaker 4: I think that that's the beauty of sixteen. As a
Speaker 4: former educator, I watched sixteen year old kids walk up
Speaker 4: to me and be like, mister Carman, this is my dream.
Speaker 4: I want to do this. And I had to listen
Speaker 4: to their bullshit and I had to go, I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: try your best, but I don't. I don't retweet it
Speaker 4: and tell everybody how brave they are and like complain
Speaker 4: about their home situation. I help them navigate as an
Speaker 4: honest person, caring about them.
Speaker 1: But this is also TV, right, Like, I don't look
Speaker 1: at American Idol as a real talent show. Yes, it
Speaker 1: has propelled people who are talented, but I don't Most
Speaker 1: of the things on TV is not based off talent.
Speaker 1: There's all these like ulterior motives and things that they
Speaker 1: want to uplift or take down. And that's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. It's all about the storylines. That's why reality
Speaker 1: TV is the way it is. It's some producer being
Speaker 1: like all right, no, no, now, okay, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: get them in this room and we're gonna make this
Speaker 1: this argument happen. It's all for viewership. They need people
Speaker 1: to tune in, and nobody wants to tune in and
Speaker 1: see people just having a regular time they do.
Speaker 4: I think that's absolutely fair and I can't argue with
Speaker 4: that at all. But I do think that for every
Speaker 4: person who goes on the internet and advocates for the
Speaker 4: safety of this individual whilst I'm multaneously propelling them through
Speaker 4: the drama, you are a hypocrite. You are part of
Speaker 4: the problem that you are complaining has been created, much
Speaker 4: in the way of the Britney Spears fans who are
Speaker 4: now like constantly advocating for her to be released from
Speaker 4: her father's grasp. Meanwhile, the reason that she is in
Speaker 4: her father's grasp is because you obsessed over her so
Speaker 4: often and so long that the tabloids felt like they
Speaker 4: had to service your obsessions. But in Creient it was
Speaker 4: complain about the signals.
Speaker 2: But the thing about Britney Spears is it wasn't just
Speaker 2: her fans that were obsessed with her. People were like
Speaker 2: hate watching and hate reading the Britney Spears stuff as well,
Speaker 2: And I think that really is what propelled it, because
Speaker 2: people that didn't even care about Briney Spears were.
Speaker 1: Like, Shad, look look at how with his umbrella hitting
Speaker 1: his guard Like the fans weren't saying that they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think she looks good balved Or they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hope she's okay.
Speaker 2: But it's the other it's the other side of it.
Speaker 2: Also that it we have to think about is the
Speaker 2: head I'm.
Speaker 4: Watching, I think, But I would argue and that this
Speaker 4: actually gets me into a slightly different subject but similar
Speaker 4: in theme is I think that there are quite a
Speaker 4: few people who know and knowingly invest themselves in their
Speaker 4: own sort of like opposition, in their own fight, right
Speaker 4: that like the fans, while they weren't rooting for her
Speaker 4: to lose, did want Britney News at all times, so
Speaker 4: they weren't fighting the idea that Brittany was becoming more
Speaker 4: and more sick. They still wanted Brittany to be in
Speaker 4: front of them all the time. So yes, I agree,
Speaker 4: it wasn't like they were going on and being like,
Speaker 4: look at this dumb bitch with a bald head and
Speaker 4: the umbrella. But they meanwhile do want a reason to
Speaker 4: argue on the internet. So when people when Britney acts up,
Speaker 4: that gives them something to now push against when they
Speaker 4: go leave Brittany alone. It's not just defending Brittany. Also
Speaker 4: is propelling them.
Speaker 1: For no, but the Internet was completely different when those
Speaker 1: tabloids was coming out. It had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the Internet. It was more like society loves making a star.
Speaker 1: They love to see the journey. They want to lift, lift, flift,
Speaker 1: lift people up, and then when you get to the
Speaker 1: point of like, oh this is annoying now, they want
Speaker 1: to see you fall. They love to see when a
Speaker 1: celebrity is being messy and going to rehab. They did
Speaker 1: it to Lindsay Lohan. They do it to even Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: They they love to see, oh yeah, she's doing crack. Now,
Speaker 1: Like we're getting mad at these journalists, right, we're mad
Speaker 1: at both Barbara Walters. But Barbara Walters was doing no,
Speaker 1: it was Diane Sawyer. Don't don't do Barbara like Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Barbara, sorry so nicely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird dips
Speaker 4: a little different, but yeah, Barbara.
Speaker 1: Wall yeah, Diane Sawyer. But at the time, this this
Speaker 1: is what we tune in for, you know, twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: this is these are the reasons why we want to see.
Speaker 1: We want see the behind the music, the e hot
Speaker 1: e true Hollywood stories. They're asking the messy questions that
Speaker 1: will get the little blurb that you need to hear
Speaker 1: that people will be like, oh, okay, I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: about this. I want to know more.
Speaker 4: And I would say that that, to me is part
Speaker 4: of the sickness. I feel the same way about like
Speaker 4: the way that people manipulate the black experience now back
Speaker 4: like it's a bunch of people who, if you took
Speaker 4: away black suffering, wouldn't have anything to tweet about, wouldn't
Speaker 4: have anything to sort of build their identity on. And I,
Speaker 4: for one, I enjoy being black for a multitude of
Speaker 4: reasons that ain't got shit to do with slavery and
Speaker 4: anything else that was problematic in our history. And while
Speaker 4: I'm not advocating in any way, I don't want your
Speaker 4: listeners to turn on me. I'm not advocating in any
Speaker 4: way that we ignore that history, that we pretend that
Speaker 4: shit didn't exist. But get the fuck out of here,
Speaker 4: that every day you got to bring up some sad news,
Speaker 4: shut the fuck.
Speaker 1: Up between see Langston. That's how I feel about a
Speaker 1: lot of the black.
Speaker 2: Films and a lot of the content that like celebrating
Speaker 2: black voices, and it's always somebody getting beat up or
Speaker 2: whipped or linged.
Speaker 1: I can't watch that my soul. Okay, call back, can't that.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't every.
Speaker 2: Time I see like something happens crazy with like the
Speaker 2: police or a black person, I don't watch those videos
Speaker 2: because I don't need to go to sleep seeing those things.
Speaker 1: I don't watch. I'm not. I've never seen He's a slave.
Speaker 1: I'm done watching slave movies. I don't. I haven't had help.
Speaker 1: I don't need to see these things because I, first
Speaker 1: of all, I've read the books.
Speaker 2: I know what happened. My mind already knows. But my
Speaker 2: my soul and my brain and my conscious, I don't
Speaker 2: need to see the visuals to support black things or
Speaker 2: to like be a real black person. But I just
Speaker 2: I wish that they were still making movies that are
Speaker 2: as like black people being as stupid as white people
Speaker 2: are allowed to.
Speaker 1: Be in their movie? Can can can we Black? Can
Speaker 1: we do a black dude wears my car? Can we
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 4: I want to see a movie where a black man
Speaker 4: focks a pie and none of us make it about race.
Speaker 4: It's purely just a man who is horny for pie,
Speaker 4: and it's it's called Negro American pie. You can call
Speaker 4: it something.
Speaker 1: It's called peach cobbler. That's what it's called. Yeah, it could,
Speaker 1: it could, it could be a BlackBerry pie, whatever you
Speaker 1: want it to be. I mean, they just I think
Speaker 1: that I am against like hating on social media, even
Speaker 1: though it helps some people's careers. I think it it's
Speaker 1: instant gratification that's not healthy, and it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: cultivate better talents, you know what I mean, Because they
Speaker 1: want everything to be so quick and like a sound bite,
Speaker 1: and they wanted sixty seconds, and they want to be
Speaker 1: able to, oh, this is digestible real quick, and then
Speaker 1: everybody could share it and then oh boom this person
Speaker 1: and as a star. And it's like when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, like people literally comedians had to go on
Speaker 1: tour to actually get their fan base. There was no
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put up this one minute stand up clip
Speaker 1: and then now I'm touring, I'm in Australia. Like it's
Speaker 1: just I'm not.
Speaker 4: Further, I would say that a fair amount of the
Speaker 4: people who are able now to do all of that
Speaker 4: when they get in person, aren't that good at the thing.
Speaker 4: Like there's so many of them, and you know, again,
Speaker 4: I'll be careful.
Speaker 2: But I think you're trying to say a lot of
Speaker 2: people from TikTok and YouTube and what's the one, the one.
Speaker 4: And Instagram and a whole bunch of other.
Speaker 1: Space we can hate on TikTok. I'm for hating on
Speaker 1: they can't dance on TikTok. I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 4: They're in a multitude of spaces sort of like accessing
Speaker 4: resources that rightfully belong to them because they're good at
Speaker 4: whatever that thing is. But also so now these titles
Speaker 4: are being applied to them that aren't realistic to what
Speaker 4: they can do. You know what I mean, Like every
Speaker 4: fucking list that you see on Vulture, Variety, whatever it is,
Speaker 4: is a list of motherfuckers who can't follow me. And
Speaker 4: that's crazy, you know what I'm saying that everybody lists.
Speaker 1: Langston has not been on any of these lists, but.
Speaker 4: It's not it's a pr I'm not going to go
Speaker 4: play that game in the same way that they are.
Speaker 4: And I think what I'm saying more importantly is go crazy.
Speaker 4: If that's the type of thing that you want to do,
Speaker 4: I'm not here to stop you, but I am gonna
Speaker 4: hate on it, and I am going to fully acknowledge.
Speaker 4: I know what trick you're playing, but the audience doesn't.
Speaker 4: They don't know that you pay somebody to help you
Speaker 4: get you know, attention in a certain type of way.
Speaker 4: But I do.
Speaker 1: And that's I found out. I found out about that
Speaker 1: last year. I was like, oh, niggas is getting And
Speaker 1: then I found out how much a publicism is. I said,
Speaker 1: I could not have much go in my pot. Five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars, and that's for a short
Speaker 1: amount of time. That's not a publicist for the year.
Speaker 1: They do a little, They do a roundabout for like
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing press for, and then they're done. Then
Speaker 1: you gotta do and it's you gotta pay them again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to a meeting and they were like the
Speaker 1: guy was like, I love the podcast. I love you guys.
Speaker 1: You know what you need a publicist? What they're like, yes,
Speaker 1: you want to reach it? Split how much it costs?
Speaker 1: I said, how much? Five thousand dollars? I said, why
Speaker 1: would we pay that? Why don't people just say that
Speaker 1: we're good and we get the.
Speaker 4: Person calculating the numbers, she pulled out her phone.
Speaker 1: I said, we don't have the money each each, I said,
Speaker 1: scrounge that up. No, we don't. I said, if you
Speaker 1: think I told the guy in the meeting, I said,
Speaker 1: if you think we're that good, you should pay for
Speaker 1: a publicist for us. I said, there's no way you
Speaker 1: could tell the artists that I, my broke.
Speaker 2: Ass needs to pay. We gotta start talking about titties
Speaker 2: or something on the podcast. We gotta change the cover art.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. They I think there's a there's
Speaker 4: a faction of the world that we work in, live
Speaker 4: in that would want you to spend that money. And
Speaker 4: there's plenty of people that we know who have spent
Speaker 4: that money and benefited. That's okay, but don't pretend like
Speaker 4: this is uh, this is an elevated version of the
Speaker 4: art form. Just tell me what the fuck happened? They
Speaker 4: spent the money, you didn't, so go crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, because they're embarrassed. They're embarrassed that they had to
Speaker 1: think that, but is embarrassed about paying for a publicist. Though.
Speaker 1: The people who can afford to pay for a publicist,
Speaker 1: it's like having a manager or an agent for them.
Speaker 1: It's just like a part of the team.
Speaker 4: And I think we're we're repped, right, Like, I think
Speaker 4: there's people who don't have reps who are saying the
Speaker 4: same shit about people like you and I and all
Speaker 4: of us, like it's it's they're sitting there like if
Speaker 4: he didn't have an agent, he wouldn't be shit, he
Speaker 4: wouldn't have shit. And maybe that's true. I truly don't know.
Speaker 4: But what I do know is at least with stand up,
Speaker 4: you gotta we all gotta follow each other. I go,
Speaker 4: you go right, and one way or the other, we
Speaker 4: get to see what the shit looks like live versus
Speaker 4: whatever the Internet has told us it's meant to be.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing too about these like Vine, Instagram, YouTube,
Speaker 2: TikTok people is when they get a certain amount of followers,
Speaker 2: their reps tell them to do stand up because they
Speaker 2: know that they can sell out a weekend in the
Speaker 2: city or in Atlanta or blah blah blah wherever, and
Speaker 2: people show up to see them perform. But at these
Speaker 2: comedy clubs, the thing that I keep hearing is that
Speaker 2: they find out real real quick that their funny person
Speaker 2: that they follow, their social media star, is not funny
Speaker 2: in real life.
Speaker 4: It's a different funny.
Speaker 2: These people who pay to see you that one time,
Speaker 2: they're not coming back the next time you come back
Speaker 2: to their city.
Speaker 1: But you've already sold out three dates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and frankly, that's the challenge, right, is that
Speaker 4: now with social media, all you got to do is
Speaker 4: say this shits sold out. You keep selling out. It's
Speaker 4: not a question of the quality of the experience, and
Speaker 4: that just makes it all complicated and messy.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to be honest that I'm gonna hate
Speaker 1: on this generation because if we want to hate, they
Speaker 1: don't actually know what fucking is good or not. Like
Speaker 1: just period, Like I remember like listening to albums and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they really had a band. They're
Speaker 1: playing these instruments while they're singing. They had there's no
Speaker 1: there was no real studio voice. It was like either
Speaker 1: you can sing or you cannot sing. And so now
Speaker 1: everything is generated, everything can be filtered and put a
Speaker 1: spin on it, and you're like, now we can sell it,
Speaker 1: and that's that's what people want to hear. Anyway. They
Speaker 1: don't want to hear the old school R and B.
Speaker 1: They're like, that's all that's sad. It's like, no, that
Speaker 1: was people actually putting in the work in their field.
Speaker 4: And that's why, to your point, that's why I don't
Speaker 4: run from the title of hater. That's why I'm not
Speaker 4: scared of it. Is because I think, personally I believe
Speaker 4: that we need to bring hating back. I think a
Speaker 4: certain generation hit I wouldn't even say it's this generation,
Speaker 4: but probably the generation before, where they shamed people for
Speaker 4: having outspoken opinions about like some shit that they didn't
Speaker 4: care for, for stuff that's trash. And then it became like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: we'll just let everything exist and run wild. And now
Speaker 4: we have a bunch of people who are both exceptional
Speaker 4: and awful living in the exact same spaces, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Exceptional and awful and everybody both exceptional and awful is
Speaker 1: making money and they're posting on Instagram that they just
Speaker 1: bought a house, and it's like but, but it was
Speaker 1: like an influx this past year of people who were
Speaker 1: like what do you do? And they're like, I just
Speaker 1: want my first house. I'm twenty four, right, And it's like,
Speaker 1: is everybody is twenty four? Everybody? Nobody, nobody's twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Everybody we didn't have the same access. I mean, what
Speaker 1: did I have a dial up aim like that about it.
Speaker 1: You know, remember.
Speaker 4: I was never so lucky.
Speaker 1: And you know, good, good for them, that's great, that's
Speaker 1: great for them. But then that's I feel bad for
Speaker 1: the generation after this, because then they're going to have
Speaker 1: to hear all this awful music. Well all the music,
Speaker 1: some a lot of it, but all of it is
Speaker 1: not bad. It's some bops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the Doula peep. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it. I don't like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm like, they make it. She's so good
Speaker 1: and I'm like I saw her perform and I was like,
Speaker 1: they don't have cold text she could text h she
Speaker 1: was on Saturday night, but I did listen. She was
Speaker 1: on Saturday. She's she's She's performed everywhere. I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I listened to lip like a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I was like, this is I.
Speaker 1: I had a completely different reaction than you, friend. I said,
Speaker 1: pretty please, I said, I'm here for this. It's it's I.
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was. I said, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it says Hype. I think
Speaker 1: she's a very thin, very thin girl that's very marketable,
Speaker 1: and that's why she is.
Speaker 4: And I think that that has always existed, right, We've
Speaker 4: always we've always in music and art and all these
Speaker 4: things been competing with somebody's attractiveness versus skill. That's a
Speaker 4: conversation that that's as old as time. But I do
Speaker 4: think that there was at least was a period where
Speaker 4: we were comfortable being like, I don't know that ain't ship,
Speaker 4: but go crazy like enjoy your your thing if that's
Speaker 4: what you want. And then we reached this period where
Speaker 4: it wasn't safe anymore to be like that ain't shit,
Speaker 4: and and I think we got to bring that back.
Speaker 4: We gotta, we gotta come back.
Speaker 1: But you know what it is, it's stand culture.
Speaker 2: Stand culture is what makes people afraid to say what
Speaker 2: they do or don't like, especially if the person is
Speaker 2: famous enough, like Nicki Minaj has Nicki Minaj has barbs,
Speaker 2: and that's a that's a level of crazy that you're like,
Speaker 2: wait what.
Speaker 1: And be right. But then Beyonce has what's Beyonce? People
Speaker 1: called the High, the High, the High, be hoop tier
Speaker 1: will like dis Roy Life find your right post a
Speaker 1: picture of you from nineteen ninety eight where you didn't
Speaker 1: have no teeth like the hivest next level disrespectful. Yes,
Speaker 1: Carrie Hilston has not had a remember her, I don't
Speaker 1: even know when she don't know she's not.
Speaker 4: Came out as an anti vaxxer this year, and I
Speaker 4: think that sort of made it a little more complicated.
Speaker 4: But to that point, maybe Carry Hilson doesn't find herself
Speaker 4: as an anti vaxer if we just hear her out
Speaker 4: when she started making fun of Beyonce the first time.
Speaker 1: But did she make fun did she make fun of
Speaker 1: Beyonce or did what did she say?
Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know.
Speaker 2: She might have been like, oh, I heard the song.
Speaker 2: She might have said I heard it, but I didn't
Speaker 2: really like it, and people were like, what did you?
Speaker 2: And it's like, not all Beyonce songs. I'm going on
Speaker 2: record saying this, not all Beyonce songs are good songs.
Speaker 1: She's an affair. She's oh, everything doesn't have to be good,
Speaker 1: but like it's the overall, it's the overall, like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Fox would Beyonce like yes, and I.
Speaker 4: Think you'd be an unreasonable I think, And that's where
Speaker 4: I draw the line, right, is it would be unreasonable
Speaker 4: for me to come on this podcast and be like,
Speaker 4: fuck Beyonce, she ain't.
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna replay everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey Beyonce can suck my.
Speaker 1: Dick like number two. No, we will, we will. We're
Speaker 1: sending to.
Speaker 4: The point is that's an unreasonable position. She's obviously one
Speaker 4: of the most talented people in her industry. There is
Speaker 4: right in that little like space of people who do
Speaker 4: what she does. She's the best at it. That said,
Speaker 4: she ain't for me, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of times where I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck about whatever. This ship that my wife
Speaker 4: and everybody I know is going crazy for it ain't
Speaker 4: for me. But I ain't mad at it, and I
Speaker 4: certainly have to respect the talent in it, whereas there
Speaker 4: are other people who we don't have to respect the
Speaker 4: talent in nor should we, but we keep being told
Speaker 4: we need to. And that to me is dangerous and
Speaker 4: problematic and speaks to the stand culture that you're talking
Speaker 4: about of just wanting to obsess over something instead of
Speaker 4: being honest about what it actually provides for us.
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that you quoted r Kelly earlier
Speaker 3: and now you're saying that, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: A man who makes subtle homage. But he's sick. And
Speaker 4: I come from Chicago and we spent years obsessing over him.
Speaker 4: I literally knew the girl he peed on, and I
Speaker 4: still didn't have an understanding of what sexual assault was
Speaker 4: because the community around me is telling me that's not
Speaker 4: the same dangerous person that the pervert down the street is,
Speaker 4: and it is. It's just a more powerful pervert.
Speaker 1: Did you go to school with the girl who got
Speaker 1: peed on?
Speaker 4: Or she was like that? That is correct?
Speaker 3: She?
Speaker 4: Uh? He used to come to our uh our games
Speaker 4: to pick her up. She was a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: You know you're but you're not the first person to this.
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone that I know from Chicago has
Speaker 2: has an R Kelly.
Speaker 1: R Kelly loves into the high school story.
Speaker 4: No, he went to a lot of high schools. Let's
Speaker 4: not get it twisted. It's not like she was special
Speaker 4: when he peed on on her. She was one of
Speaker 4: many girls that he was sexually assaulted, right. Uh, she
Speaker 4: just happened to be the one that broke the case.
Speaker 1: Open, right, the p that broke the camel's back, if you.
Speaker 4: Will, yes, right? And who would have thought camel's backs
Speaker 4: could be broken by pete? But they sure can.
Speaker 1: So Langston, are you are you listening to R Kelly
Speaker 1: when it comes on? Or are you turning it off?
Speaker 1: That's I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't need those bad feelings. I'm not about to
Speaker 4: be that guy who like advocates for listening to R. Kelly.
Speaker 4: I will say that I'm not fighting. Everybody wants me
Speaker 4: to be mad at Michael, and I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know Michael Jackson. Well that's because he died.
Speaker 1: He died, so we can't really get the case.
Speaker 4: But if I'm being honest, I don't think that the
Speaker 4: motherfucker was innocent. I I truly don't believe that, like
Speaker 4: those boys are just completely making up the story. I
Speaker 4: don't know that I believe that it went to the
Speaker 4: extent that they've they've gone to. But I do think
Speaker 4: that anytime an adult man is having any little intimacy
Speaker 4: with little white boys, there's a problem there.
Speaker 1: He was This.
Speaker 4: Is wait a minute, little Michael ain't never heard nobody right,
Speaker 4: Little little Michael was hurt it.
Speaker 1: So we can listen to Little Michael and the Jackson five.
Speaker 2: I'm still do you remember the time Jackson when it
Speaker 2: comes on the shuffle? So but R Kelly is blocked
Speaker 2: from being played.
Speaker 4: On my phone. I don't do no Chris trying to
Speaker 4: stay away from Breezy as much as possible.
Speaker 1: That being said, No guidance was a bop.
Speaker 4: It was so it was the one with rhymes. That
Speaker 4: was a pretty good one.
Speaker 2: How you can hate from outside the club you can't
Speaker 2: even get in that one.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's a good one. Yeah, I mean listen.
Speaker 1: I think if you have a platform, right, I think
Speaker 1: you could use your hating in a in a good way.
Speaker 1: I think the things that you don't like, you just
Speaker 1: don't mention it, because when you're mentioning in it, you're
Speaker 1: giving it more traction. So I think if you're a
Speaker 1: smart hater, you would hate in your group text and
Speaker 1: then only promote the stuff that you actually like on
Speaker 1: And that's.
Speaker 4: Something I wholeheartedly believe. I think you're putting it in
Speaker 4: a better way than I put it earlier. I think
Speaker 4: that the best thing I can do is just remained
Speaker 4: silent on the things that that give me pause, because
Speaker 4: more more often than not, the second I go I
Speaker 4: don't fuck with this thing, at least thirty people are
Speaker 4: going to gravitate towards it, if for no other reason
Speaker 4: than what you were saying, Maria being oppositional or at
Speaker 4: least being curious about the shit that I hated on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, I like a I was asking something.
Speaker 1: I was going to add to that, and then I
Speaker 1: forgot what it was. Oh, oh Langston hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is what brought down Bill Cosby, Okay, because
Speaker 2: he was hating on a specific community. And then Hannibal said,
Speaker 2: instead of telling people to pull they pens up, Bill,
Speaker 2: you should be you should stop pulling people's pants down.
Speaker 2: And then the whole thing opened up. And look at
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby in prison now with blossy eyes.
Speaker 4: He he built an empire. Uh in his latter life
Speaker 4: later life on being unkind to poor black people. That
Speaker 4: was his whole brand was just I've read the fucking
Speaker 4: transcripts for what they called the pound Cake speech. That's
Speaker 4: the speech where he was basically going on those long
Speaker 4: rants about you know, black kids pulling up their pants
Speaker 4: and all the terrible mothers who were raising them, And
Speaker 4: it's just a mean, mean person who clearly doesn't feel
Speaker 4: any connection to anybody under a certain like economic level.
Speaker 4: And that's fucking crazy. And yeah, you deserve to get
Speaker 4: you know, you dick slept in prison or whatever it
Speaker 4: is that's happening to him.
Speaker 2: We don't know and we don't care, but he deserves
Speaker 2: anything that's happening to him. And like, but like, how
Speaker 2: dare you be hating on that when you when.
Speaker 1: You got so much worse in your closet? Yeah, why
Speaker 1: are you worried about my pants?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 1: Where the quaylud's at? Let's talk?
Speaker 4: And to that point, that's something I also try to do,
Speaker 4: is like, if I'm gonna hate on some shit, I
Speaker 4: want to at least believe that I'm not putting out
Speaker 4: some like equally problematic version of that thing. Most of
Speaker 4: the stuff I hate, I feel like I at least
Speaker 4: can I can do better or I am doing better
Speaker 4: on something, and I try to leave some ship that
Speaker 4: like I can't do alone. So even with like the
Speaker 4: TikTok dances, I don't get mad at motherfucker's getting rich
Speaker 4: off of TikTok dances because I ain't gonna do it
Speaker 4: and I don't know how, Like I truly don't.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of this and like clapping had a
Speaker 1: shy clap. Yeah, it's all in the arms. It's all
Speaker 1: the arms. It's less about the it's less about this.
Speaker 1: It's actually not even really about the rhythm at all.
Speaker 1: It's just like maybe, no, it's never and there's a
Speaker 1: slide what which is? Which is fine? We're not going
Speaker 1: to be mad at that. Oh oh you know what?
Speaker 1: People were upset about that. I would like to hear
Speaker 1: your take on Kevin. They were they were dragging his special.
Speaker 1: They were saying, it's bad, it's.
Speaker 4: Kevin, but also I don't know, well.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. So then they went into clubhouse
Speaker 1: and they were dragging it, and then he got in
Speaker 1: the room and was trying to defend his special one club.
Speaker 4: But and this is where it gets real sick for
Speaker 4: old Kevin because he part of the reason he went
Speaker 4: on clubhouses, because he's an investor in clubhouse and like
Speaker 4: a cross promotion pollination type thing of getting people to
Speaker 4: be attracted to the thing. It's a it's a koy
Speaker 4: game that he's playing with us. But at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, it was just a dude who put
Speaker 4: out garbage, and he knew he put out garbage, but
Speaker 4: he also like felt like he needed to have something
Speaker 4: because his ego is built the way his ego is built.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. There's no healing, right, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to offer up anything that makes Kevin better.
Speaker 4: But also, nigga, you know what that special was doing?
Speaker 1: It was I fell asleep. I put it on and
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, he's in his house. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I woke up and Netflix was like you still watching it?
Speaker 1: And I was like no, and I just shut my laptop.
Speaker 4: I'm not watching this no more. I watched every minute
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: You okay, And I'll say this. I watch between all
Speaker 1: the rooms.
Speaker 4: Every special that comes out, and I have opinions on
Speaker 4: every single one, even people who I don't care for
Speaker 4: from the beginning of watching it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we need to do a patron episode
Speaker 1: of this. I think people need to pay twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: no fifty dollars if they want to hear what you
Speaker 1: really We.
Speaker 4: Can go down the list if we If this is
Speaker 4: a paywall situation, we can I could.
Speaker 2: Say without the wall being up, how you feel about
Speaker 2: Andrew Shultz Special because that's a comic that people keep
Speaker 2: bringing up when I talk.
Speaker 4: It was terrible. I think we can all agree that that.
Speaker 1: Also was not I haven't I didn't watch it. Isn't
Speaker 1: it like a bunch of things. It was fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: It's four or fifteen minutes specials. It's minutes total. But
Speaker 4: it's it's his take on four different things. Most of
Speaker 4: it is just him making weird Jeffrey Epstein puns and
Speaker 4: like sort of uh scolding people for being human. I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's not great, But that said, I take
Speaker 4: a lot of issue. I think my larger issue with
Speaker 4: a lot of that is, uh, there's, uh, there's something
Speaker 4: really yucky about this brand of white boy who uh
Speaker 4: sort of appropriates black culture without giving any credit to
Speaker 4: any of like black go off. It doesn't feel that
Speaker 4: far from the Jake Paul of it all for me,
Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, motherfucker, are we being black
Speaker 4: or not? Like, just be honest about where the fuck
Speaker 4: you got this from. Cause, nigga, you don't talk like
Speaker 4: that around your family. I'm one hundred percent sure that
Speaker 4: ain't your family voice.
Speaker 1: That's not your talking to the irs voice.
Speaker 2: That's not your talking to your voice, that's not getting
Speaker 2: pulled over voice.
Speaker 1: That's not how you talk at Thanksgiving, Like.
Speaker 4: Get the fuck god? He you don't talk like that,
Speaker 4: and nor do I.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I don't know, he's been like he's
Speaker 1: on on guy code, he's I mean, he's been talking
Speaker 1: like this for a long like yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: he's been with Charlemagne forever. So like but you know
Speaker 1: who else? Damn I keeping.
Speaker 4: You'll get no fight out of me. I agree he
Speaker 4: put them on. And that's that's enough bullshit to me
Speaker 4: to even begin the conversation. Amongst other things, that he
Speaker 4: did mean things to black women for years before he
Speaker 4: woke up and decided to rebrand himself.
Speaker 1: H damn Linkston. We gotta get this patriot. I really
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 4: Know, Bridges, I don't give.
Speaker 1: I really feel like you would give us the content.
Speaker 1: I really wish you would have been some bridges today,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, we're not gonna We're
Speaker 1: not gonna keep you for much younger. Do you have
Speaker 1: some tips on how to hate properly? Do you have
Speaker 1: some some tips on how to get over being a hater? Anything?
Speaker 4: A nice way to hate, thank you for asking. I
Speaker 4: think a nice way to hate is to UH is
Speaker 4: to post without context to your group chat. Just post
Speaker 4: the thing, allow the responses to flow and build your
Speaker 4: your your full perspective from that. So something you don't
Speaker 4: find UH to be yummy and as you you see it,
Speaker 4: you give it to your group, your small little circle.
Speaker 4: You let them say what they got to say, and
Speaker 4: then once you've had a finished sort of perspective on it,
Speaker 4: that's when you unleash the full round of hateration. Exactly.
Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed it. I don't think it's that I
Speaker 2: didn't like it too much. And then you're like, you
Speaker 2: pounce yes, then you go off, Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: That's a good test, and.
Speaker 4: That way you don't ever feel like, oh, this is
Speaker 4: just coming from an unfinished place. You get a full,
Speaker 4: finished perspective and then you throw.
Speaker 1: It in Okay. So is there any is there such
Speaker 1: thing as hate redemption? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Didn't like something for X amount of time and then
Speaker 2: you one day you like, oh.
Speaker 4: Wait, I kind of get it now, and I yes,
Speaker 4: I think I think that that you should have the
Speaker 4: right to not like something, to hate on something, but
Speaker 4: also be able to give it the space if you're
Speaker 4: a human enough person. We all change, we all grow,
Speaker 4: we're all evolving at all times, and there's space for
Speaker 4: you to be a person who goes I didn't like
Speaker 4: that at first, or I used to not like whatever
Speaker 4: this person was putting out, but now I do. I
Speaker 4: used to fuck with Kevin Hart super hard, and now
Speaker 4: I don't. But that doesn't mean that he might not
Speaker 4: put out something where I go, man, he found it again,
Speaker 4: and that's okay. But right now that special stinks and
Speaker 4: that's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So you can hate something and then
Speaker 1: if there's something they do make something good, you could
Speaker 1: be like, hey, hey, just because I hate them doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I can't acknowledge that that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: I don't think that Langston was saying he's given hard.
Speaker 2: I think he's saying he hates he hates the spend.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying yeah, I and yes. But I think
Speaker 4: to both of those questions, yes, you cannot like someone,
Speaker 4: you cannot like the product, but if you are an
Speaker 4: honest human being, you also should be able to acknowledge
Speaker 4: that we evolve and change and grow. So maybe you
Speaker 4: feel differently five minutes from now or ten years from now,
Speaker 4: who knows.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow Langston, thank you for helping us evolve and
Speaker 1: change and grow tonight. Yeah, I want one last thing
Speaker 1: instead of we're going to flip the hating and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do some like uplifting a Lengston say, I would
Speaker 1: like you to go around the room and just say
Speaker 1: a few positive things about each of the people on
Speaker 1: the zoom to close us out. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 4: First of all, Andrew, those lights are spectacular. As soon
Speaker 4: as I got on, I said, those are beautiful lights.
Speaker 4: And I wish I had the audacity to hang lights
Speaker 4: in the room that I'm in, but this is mostly
Speaker 4: empty room that I'm allowed to work in, but because
Speaker 4: my wife doesn't respect me anyway, love your lights, and
Speaker 4: you've been very patient, and you're a good producer as
Speaker 4: far as I can tell. Who knows if you can edit.
Speaker 4: But the goddamn heroes far as.
Speaker 3: It's hard to compete with their lights. They all have
Speaker 3: go sex lights, as they call them.
Speaker 4: So hey, we all have sex and different colors. So
Speaker 4: you're having sex and white Christmas and they're having sex
Speaker 4: in different Christmases, alternative Christmases. Okay, Marie, I listen you. You
Speaker 4: you nailed it with that peach cobbler. Goddamn, was that
Speaker 4: a funny ass joke? Fucking a pie and it's called
Speaker 4: a black man fucking a pie and it's called that's
Speaker 4: goddamn funny. And Uh, I'm glad you had that all
Speaker 4: that wine because you're loose. I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting all the questions that I want to ask,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to have more. Uh, thank you, Lang
Speaker 1: sty Okay.
Speaker 4: And now Sydney, Sydney, Oh, Sydney, I text you on
Speaker 4: your birthday and you didn't reply, but I forgive you
Speaker 4: for that. But more importantly, Sydney, your hair looks beautiful,
Speaker 4: You're you're glowing in your pink light. You look fantastic.
Speaker 4: And you brought in some very important counter perspectives to
Speaker 4: some of the things that I was saying. That helped
Speaker 4: me sharpen my my perspective on hate. And I appreciated that.
Speaker 4: This evening, I'm going.
Speaker 2: To say a positive thing about you and then you
Speaker 2: can go and then we'll wrap this up.
Speaker 4: Oh sure, you went.
Speaker 1: All the way around and didn't mention seminary key no
Speaker 1: one time. I think you did a phenomenal job tonight, babe.
Speaker 4: No, it was a it was a tight rope, and
Speaker 4: boy was I was hanging over spikes on one side
Speaker 4: and ice crystals on the other.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: I managed it. I figured it out.
Speaker 1: He saw my face. I was like, I saw it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta say some snot like a
Speaker 4: little you know, a little comment. I'll talk about her birthday.
Speaker 4: I'll bring up the factor apply to text messages. But
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna bring up that cemeitary. That's that's difficult.
Speaker 1: You were thank you tell people who are listening where
Speaker 1: they can catch you, where they can see you, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Okay, Yeah, you can catch me online at Langston
Speaker 4: Kerrman on all the platforms l A N G S
Speaker 4: T O n K E R M A N. I
Speaker 4: don't know why I spelled it for you. You've figured it out.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fit Leangston.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't listen. Well, I've been called leslie far
Speaker 4: too many times to put faith in the human ear.
Speaker 4: And oh and please go listen to my podcast. It's
Speaker 4: called my Mama Told Me and we talk about black
Speaker 4: people and their conspiracy theories. And the cool sort of
Speaker 4: like uh not QAnon of of the world around us,
Speaker 4: all the anti QAnon if you will on my podcast,
Speaker 4: which is.
Speaker 1: Real fun, beautiful. Thanks so much, Leangston, Sydney. Any final words, Andrew,
Speaker 1: final words, Leangthston. You've been so consistent. I mean, ever
Speaker 1: since I've met you seven years ago, you've been uh stunning,
Speaker 1: hilarious and and and yeah, I've never seen you. I've
Speaker 1: never seen you unemployed and broke, and I love that.
Speaker 1: And I'll make sure to text you back. Man, I'll
Speaker 1: even I'll even face.
Speaker 4: I'm not fighting that. I'll take a FaceTime here and there. Marie.
Speaker 4: You're gonna FaceTime. Any face time is coming your way.
Speaker 1: You didn't text me on my birthday.
Speaker 4: That's sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm I was like.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it either. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: he definitely doesn't.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna text you on your birthday, Andrew, No deed,
Speaker 4: you'll get no text message from me on your birthday.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't get a text from them either.
Speaker 1: Andrew October on your birthday, Yes, I speak.
Speaker 3: My birthday is November.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means we surely did.
Speaker 1: I definitely text you the receipts to be okay. All right, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this once again episode with
Speaker 1: everybody on the call being sexy as fuck. You know
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