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Speaker 1: You have a glass of red wine over there? Right?

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Speaker 1: This is my after dinner before the podcast glass. So

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Speaker 1: I love that, but.

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Speaker 2: I gotta leave it all the way over there, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I got a black and white rug, and

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Speaker 2: every time I spill something, I spill it on the

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Speaker 2: white part.

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Speaker 1: So it's happy Black History Month. That's how it should be.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's the other way to look at it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: The black side is still clean. The white side dingy

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Speaker 1: fills on brand. Hey, Marie, I was actually thinking about

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Speaker 1: getting a steamer for my apartment, Like a steamer, like

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Speaker 1: to steam the floors and the carpet. You think that

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Speaker 1: should be the move? Or?

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Speaker 2: No, don't you have a cleaning man? You don't even clean?

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Speaker 2: Does say he come with his own supply?

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Speaker 1: No, you know he comes from the Bronx, so I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would bring a whole steamer to

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Speaker 1: eat New York. What you think the steamer's gonna do

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Speaker 1: to your house?

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Speaker 3: This?

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get rid of the cats. Tell us walk

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Speaker 2: us through the thought process. Ye, I think it's just

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Speaker 2: good it's good.

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Speaker 1: It says, it's good to disinfect the floors, it's good

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Speaker 2: You know what else does that sweeping, mopping, vacuuming. You

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Speaker 2: could do all of those things. You don't need to

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Speaker 2: get a steamer for your house. Okay, so the verdict's out.

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Speaker 2: There will be no steamer at Sydney's apartment. Great, Marie,

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Speaker 2: how are you feeling? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you said all that, but you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the tracking number for the steamer you just ordered.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you wants already en route. No, no,

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Speaker 1: in with my Black Lady counsel and you said no.

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Speaker 1: So that's it's a no. Who told you you needed

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Speaker 1: a steamer? Friend the Facebook adds Marie, I need you

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Speaker 1: to take me off Facebook. I gotta get all. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why, but every day there's something that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody on this zoom has been on

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I saw that your friend requested me though

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, don't you fucking Andrew take that back. I

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Speaker 3: Really because let me check. Let me check right now.

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Speaker 2: Which okay, Well, lose people pull up receipts on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: If there's any listeners out there that's looking for a producer,

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Speaker 1: intern hot gay Sydney Ridle, I got you.

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Speaker 3: A friend of Andrew Maguire on Facebook. Let it be official? Yeah, win,

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Speaker 3: I don't let me Can I see the friendship?

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Speaker 1: Well you're not making a lot of friends on Facebook hunt,

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Speaker 3: No friends since March twenty twenty, if that's any consolation.

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Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic, so yeah, that checks out right.

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Speaker 1: So don't do that. Don't come for me.

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Speaker 2: Not none of these people here, nobody here was opening

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Speaker 1: Anti who Marie. You know, I would love to start

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Speaker 2: I got some positivity for that ass. So I went

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm gona get up. I'm gonna start the

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Speaker 1: First of all, the stopping shop.

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Speaker 2: On Atlantic Avenue is not where you should go. Don't

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the garbonzo beans. Now, some other dude

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, come on, Marie, what is about to happen

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Speaker 1: right here. Come on, run these bits ciss that you're

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Speaker 2: Let's go. This is not a bit. It happened to

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Speaker 1: Not yeah, we've heard it all. Well hanging okay, show

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Speaker 2: Andrew stop and shop across from the Barclay Center today

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Speaker 1: And he was like no, And I was like, you

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Speaker 1: or nothing. Marie, you're being ablest. I'm not saying this.

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Speaker 1: we're able lists, we're fat phoebic, but white phoebic.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just if it makes the listeners feel any better.

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Speaker 1: Now, what that makes me? Now problematic? That's what it

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Speaker 1: That's what happened today.

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Speaker 1: store tomorrow to get eggs. Well, Marie, I cannot relate

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Speaker 1: a woman asked me could I help her get a Kandish?

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Speaker 1: are you? Wait? Isn't a Kandish? Isn't that like a

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Speaker 1: getting older, Marie. This is just how it comes out

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Speaker 1: of your mouth once you hit forty. No, a kanish,

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Speaker 1: have kanishes at the bar, at the at the bodega bayou. Yes, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I'm on break. If Sidney's on break,

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Speaker 1: I'm not on break. I'm I told you that I

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Speaker 2: You could have introed the guest, and we could have

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Speaker 3: Is what.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have the conversation without their guests.

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Speaker 1: I want to intro the guests.

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Speaker 1: Listen. Nobody knows what a kanishi is, Andrew, did you

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Speaker 1: google it? What the what the google images? A hot

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Speaker 3: like ready dumplings?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well they sound nasty. Well let's bring the guests

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Speaker 2: in just to get on Sidney's nerves. Uh, he's been

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Speaker 2: on the podcast before. You love him, you know him.

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Speaker 1: He's our esteemed light skin guests for Black History Month.

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Speaker 2: Today, give it up for our hate expert or hating expert,

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Speaker 2: Langston Kermit.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what a what a Welcome to the most racist,

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Speaker 4: problematic podcast available on the internet.

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Speaker 1: Your podcast is more problematic than our podcast.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, y'all, niggas are shining right now. You're

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Speaker 4: not really acting up on this podcast. You went on

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Speaker 2: I say, the wheelchairman didn't deserve money, but I needed

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Speaker 4: They respect. They're not going to protect our best open

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Speaker 1: I ordered salmon Karioki with a what's the wrong with that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, shut out? And then is your sides or something? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's it's a it's a bento box. Okay, here he is?

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Speaker 1: Sorry. He was running like I had ordered it a

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Speaker 4: I am devastated by this unprofessional behavior.

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Speaker 4: My wife wanted to go to bed bathroom beyond and

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Speaker 2: Because you know no thing, you know she's gonna be

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Speaker 1: No, I don't, Marie. When's the last time she's gonna

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Speaker 1: haven't done that, Murrie? Last Wednesday? I don't know, Marie,

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Speaker 1: where's the like we're the sisterhood in this bitch like Sidney,

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Speaker 1: We're literally watching you ordering getting up to go get it,

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Speaker 4: This is exciting. I've never seen a friendship terror party

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Speaker 1: Just have my back she'll just like throw me under

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Speaker 1: the bus, Sydney. The bus is the Postmates delivery man,

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Speaker 1: This is not my mom when you say way before?

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Speaker 1: Did you an hour ago? Friend? An hour ago? At

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Speaker 4: Never gonna forgive us because it's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm like, come on now, she's just hungry

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yes, absolutely, that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: That that ain't got nothing to do with us, baby girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Good to know, Marie. Good to know. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: I feel like when people, when the reviews come in

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Speaker 4: They're gonna say, man, leanson, sure sounded uncomfortable. The reviews

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Speaker 4: Oh you were giggling, and then salmon Aryoki got two

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Speaker 1: It's fine. Do what do you guys want? Whatever you

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Speaker 1: it's above me, not me.

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Speaker 4: I'm still here. I'm stuck in it, right on, right

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Speaker 1: Here, I am Sydney. You order food during the hobby Hunters.

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Speaker 4: Stop at I'm asking that.

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Speaker 1: That's a real question.

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Speaker 4: Uh oh, now we're bringing up other shit. Yeah, Marie

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Speaker 4: didn't have to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? Since I

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's okay, Sydney, I'll do that at the

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Speaker 1: Still talking about your fish. That's not even there yet.

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Speaker 1: It's not my fault. I ordered it in an hour

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Speaker 1: they're late. This is not my fault.

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Speaker 4: Where'd you order it from?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 4: At least A lovely is a restaurant?

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Speaker 1: I order from it all the time, and it's always

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Speaker 1: the name. They were like, she she's playing with us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna play with too, Oh my god. Yeah, it's great. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to do. It's

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Speaker 4: And it's either been two minutes or the longest thirty

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's been longer than two minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for wasting your time today.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm chilling. I listen. Here's what I would love, ladies.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's get Sydney her food, let's recalibrate, let's be

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Speaker 4: that's the kind of evening I would love for us

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Speaker 2: Thank you for mediating this, lady, I mean, hold on,

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Speaker 2: let me be realistic here. If the food get there

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna have him leave the food at the door.

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Speaker 1: How about that. I'll leave the food at the door.

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Speaker 1: I won't go and get it. How about that. I'll

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Speaker 1: do that. I'll do that for the pod because I

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Speaker 1: apologize for this happening. I'm so sorry. This is so unprofessional.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, kind a weird way, a weird.

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Speaker 4: Man to stop, I'm antagonistic.

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Speaker 1: You are, which is it? No? No, no, it's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: from the ghetto. Yeah, because it's it's from me for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm making it. Because we're now almost thirty minutes in

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Speaker 1: So so what is the plan that friend, Cause we

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Speaker 1: We can have a conversation. I feel like as.

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Speaker 3: Soon as you have a conversation and the Seminaryoky is gonna.

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Speaker 1: Show, I'm not gonna go get it. I just said

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna be able to get into your Apartment's

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do, Sydney. You're that seems unreasonable

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Speaker 1: don't do that. Me going to the bathroom is not

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Speaker 4: Hey, y'all be some own trending again, and it's not

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Speaker 4: She went on a long rant saying that women sit

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Speaker 4: and you all don't This is her words, not mine,

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Speaker 4: but you all don't have that for yourselves, that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not all women and not all men.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. But it's only funny if

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Speaker 4: I would I would say with with the hand of God,

434
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: b Simone is isn't a relationship with the hand of God?

435
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: And unfortunately it seems to be God's backhand at the moment,

436
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 4: but he got that hand on her.

437
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: Somebody said, was b Simone not begging a man under

438
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: five to nine to like her? And was bigging up

439
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: Danny Lee and basically saying she damn near one because

440
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: she's Latina. She has the self esteem of a broom

441
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 2: but wants to push down, not going for that.

442
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: We love Twitter, Oh my god, it just it will

443
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: never stops. It's undefeated.

444
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: My favorite part of the video is she's she's not

445
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 4: wearing a bra in the video while she's like slapping

446
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: a table and ranting and her jingles are jangling and whatnot,

447
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: and you can see her getting more and more self

448
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 4: conscious of it as she gets more and more confident

449
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: in her backwards ass frant about about being the better

450
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: version of yourself in order to find the man you deserve. Sydney,

451
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 4: I pray to God, you're about to go get this salmon.

452
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: It's not I don't I do. I personally just don't

453
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: they got a twenty percent tip. I don't know what

454
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: I want to take it back. I don't know what

455
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: this is about. This is like over, this is an

456
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: hour and a half. The food has to be cold

457
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: on God. So this is truly not my fault.

458
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 4: But what them temperature is like in New York right now?

459
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: Like thirty Alexa, what's the temperature?

460
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you ask Alexa, you got money.

461
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: Thirty two degrees? I didn't. I should have asked my Google.

462
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: Hey Google, shut up, Alexa. She said, enjoy your Monday. Okay.

463
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand why women feel like they need to

464
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: make these proclamations about other women and post them to

465
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: their followers, but not not all women are like that.

466
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always I maintain this feeling that I think

467
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: that it's often the choice of trying to impress some dudes,

468
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: Like it's a very specific type of dude that's gonna

469
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: look at that and be like, yeah, this bitch gets

470
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: And it's like, I guess that's who they're aiming for,

471
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: because it's definitely not other women who are going to

472
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, you nailed it, Sis.

473
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I think it's more about It's easier

474
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: to talk about other people than to talk about yourself.

475
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: It's easier to say, well, you've done this that that

476
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: that's wrong, but to look inward and be like, this

477
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: is actually my story. It's so hard to present that.

478
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: It's like, why are you talking about everybody else's business

479
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: except your own?

480
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: That's weird, right, Like why is it be someone talking

481
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: about women who sell books that they plageiarize and then say, yeah,

482
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: that is a manifestation book, Like why is she not

483
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: talking about women that do that?

484
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

485
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, what that beat stand for?

486
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 5: Focused on that, find out what the bee stands for,

487
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: and then we can for you can get into all

488
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 5: the rocks and wrongs.

489
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: I probaby got it is because I still got that

490
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: tension in my chest.

491
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't, but this is you are you pe okay? Whatever?

492
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: Lang sty? What did you eat today? How about that? Listen?

493
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: What food did you eat today?

494
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: So far? I've had I don't only have one meal

495
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 4: as well, but it's it's much earlier here. I had

496
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 4: a tender greens plate.

497
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: Oh, I enjoyed like tender greens. But that's only an

498
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: l a thing.

499
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh, they don't have tender greens in New York.

500
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: What did you get protein? Protein?

501
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 4: I got myself a tune in the swas right. I

502
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 4: believe it's French.

503
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I believe so so or a whole.

504
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: Bunch of ship. How are we doing on that? On that? Samaria?

505
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: It's good.

506
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start the podcast. We're starting it hot.

507
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be worth it. It's gonna be so fun.

508
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: I can't wait. I'm so excited.

509
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, no, whoever starts? Okay, Well, we we

510
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: left off with Marie talking about her like a shop

511
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: right homeless expedition, and we ended on b simone, So

512
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: I think we can just uh intro Langston and move

513
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: on from there. Mm hmm.

514
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: All right, y'all got to be nice to each other first.

515
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's got to play that. Marie doesn't. She doesn't want

516
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: to move on. She's got like the attitude face. And

517
00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: it's like you have Marie attitude on entire episode. You

518
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: guys are attacking me for yeah, like a white woman

519
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: right now, attacking you. That's the language that people who

520
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: are not being attacked. Yous attacking. You're giving me a

521
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: hard time about the delivery. I didn't even say anything else.

522
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: You did Marie, we're gonna run the tapes back. You

523
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: did I said, I didn't say anything else.

524
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: You said we want to restart, So go ahead and

525
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: control instances, Aris, But.

526
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: We're gonna cut through it and we're gonna have a

527
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: great time.

528
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get more wine. I'm gonna bring a bottle

529
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: in here because in the City introduced the guest. No, Marie,

530
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this like either we're gonna do it

531
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: right or we could cut the we could cut it

532
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: tonight because I'm not I'm not doing this. I was

533
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: an accident. I'm sorry, and I just I want to

534
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: have a good posity.

535
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: We have been having a good podcast. I feel like

536
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: you're missing it. That's what we I'm fine, Andrew's fine.

537
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna listen back to this and laugh and only Gray.

538
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, Leangston, any input here.

539
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a chill in the air, a cold chill

540
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: running up my spine. It feels like sleepy hollow in

541
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: my home. But fighting through it.

542
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move forward. Were hat We have

543
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: a good old guess that we haven't had in over

544
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: many many years. But when he came here, he was

545
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: a light skinned expert. And now he's come to one

546
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: up that expert. I mean he's been on many many

547
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: shows after that, very one of our most famous friends

548
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: give it up for Langston Kerman and he's our hated

549
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: It's like deja vu high Langston.

550
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, it's good to see y'all with no other context.

551
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: It is.

552
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: What a dream to see you both with no other

553
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: information ahead of this moment. Oh, what a treat.

554
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 6: Wow.

555
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Wow, Yes, and Andrew you as well.

556
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to leave you out. What a pleasure.

557
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's great to meet you.

558
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Obsession Langston, you seem like such a lovable, likable person.

559
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: So hating expert.

560
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I this is all a ruse. This

561
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: is a long con that I've I've learned to build

562
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: over the years to uh to get all my hate out.

563
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: I realize that it's easier to just smile and wave

564
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: than it is to scowl and let people know how

565
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: you really feel, especially if you don't want to square up,

566
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: which I do not more often.

567
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Right, fighting is no fighting.

568
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: It's not my thing. I'll roach you. I'll write something

569
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: backhanded on a piece of paper and hand it to

570
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: you as I run away, but I don't want to

571
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: fight nobody that ain't my Shiit.

572
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was gonna say, have you ever been in

573
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: a fight?

574
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: I have been in fights before. I would say I'm

575
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: at a I'm at a like a two and two record,

576
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. This kid Ari, who was

577
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: a friend of mine growing up, smacked the ship out

578
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: of me one time when we were fighting over basketball

579
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: and who I didn't win that one, but then I

580
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: got another fights in school where like I did all right,

581
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: nobody was walking away like, hey, don't fuck with Langston

582
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: no more. That nigga's crazy. But I did pretty good.

583
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: So you're so you're like, I'm I'm being easy going

584
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: for the system, but really and internally you're like you

585
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: hate everything. Yeah.

586
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's very few things, particularly related to the things

587
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: that I care about that I enjoy.

588
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds very New York of you. That sounds

589
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: like through and through a New Yorker.

590
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm not from New York and I ain't

591
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: got no reason to behave we're kind people. Yeah, nope. Well,

592
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: Chicago's an exception. I think I've maintained this for a

593
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: lot of years that Chicago is a city built on hate,

594
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: and like, that's how we propel each other forward, is

595
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: by being haters through and through.

596
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a bunch of different types of

597
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: people who listen to people from all over the world.

598
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: Were very famous international. So what is a hater like?

599
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: If you don't like something, are you a hater or

600
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: is it more than that?

601
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: You know?

602
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: I think that's a good question. I think that hating

603
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: is not liking something that you could have just let live.

604
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, the Oxford definition.

605
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I imagine. I imagine people with a

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: more whole heart, you know what I mean, if the whole,

607
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: if all the pieces in your heart are fully formed.

608
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: You see something you don't like and you process it

609
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't care for that too much,

610
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: and you move on with your day. You have a

611
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: nice a nice sam and teryoki if you will, you

612
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: enjoy a nice meal, you.

613
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

614
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: But a hater, yeah, now, a hater, you're gonna let

615
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: that simmer. You're not gonna be able to enjoy your

616
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: meal because you got that you got that extra sitting in.

617
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: Your chest right, You're gonna write a dissertation about it

618
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: online and be like, well, I never.

619
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: Liked anything that this person did anyway.

620
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: And that's that's where I take issue. I don't go

621
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: online with my shit. I keep it private. It's it's

622
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: not meant for the public. But I do tell quite

623
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: a few people in group chats and smaller circles, smaller

624
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: networks of people about how I feel.

625
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: And that's perfect because now you're on this pod and

626
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: we can really get into this hateration holeration. Now I

627
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: look at a hater. I look at a hater and

628
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: something is good and they are a hater, and they're

629
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: just gonna they're gonna shoot on it regardless of how

630
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's how I look at So.

631
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: You think, okay, so to be a hater, something has

632
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: to to objectively be quality, and then somebody has to

633
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: be coming in and just trying to scuff it up

634
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: for no good reason.

635
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: Yes, scuff is a good word, thank you.

636
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: I uh, I freestyled that one. I'd say that that.

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: The difference for me is that I don't actually think

638
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: that that many things exist that are objectively good. Okay, Okay,

639
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: I think I think there's a lot of ship that

640
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: people will tell you are good is good, or tell

641
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: you or want you to believe is good. But if

642
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: you really look at the ship, it's fine. It's all right.

643
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: It is a lot of fine that people elevate to

644
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: amazing or excellent. Soon, just give us all things that

645
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: you hate that you think most people like.

646
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Oh and I don't know how well. I don't know

647
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 4: how to do this because now you got that weird uh,

648
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: that weird motion going you.

649
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, because you got I but because I agree

650
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: with the definition that you and Sydney both gave kind

651
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: of But I also but I also don't like a

652
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: lot of things that people like. And sometimes I don't

653
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: like things that people like specifically because so many people

654
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: like it. Like for me, sometimes the more people enjoy

655
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: one particular thing, the more I want to just like

656
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: not be a part of that at all.

657
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: Oh see, I don't I don't know that I have that.

658
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't think I get oppositional that. I think that's oppositional.

659
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: I think I would define that differently. Like that to

660
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: me is like, y'all motherfuckers ain't gonna tell me how

661
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to feel. And I think I hope that

662
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: my hating, while unhealthy and probably gonna kill me by

663
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: fifty five is not rooted in just like a want

664
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: to to uh, just move against the grain if you will.

665
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 6: Okay, But but this, this is this is where I'm like, Okay,

666
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 6: hating you could if something you think is bad.

667
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to think that it's bad. But

668
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: I think that if you're going out of your way

669
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: to trash it publicly, I think that's like real hater

670
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: behavior that it was. It's unnecessary. You just not like

671
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: it and not watch it.

672
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'd ask you when and this is

673
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: a very R Kelly quote of it, when we say public,

674
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: how public are we talking? You know, you say are

675
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: you talking? How are we talking?

676
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: That's an R. Kelly quote.

677
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: You never heard that he was talking to uh, what's

678
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: his name? Uh? I can't remember his name from BT

679
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: He had the afro real skinny guy, Terrey. He was

680
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: talking to Terray in the interview right after the trial

681
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: after he had been acquitted. And Terray's first question to R.

682
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: Kelly is Robert, do you like teenage girls? And then

683
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: he thinks for a second, he thinks real hard on him.

684
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 4: He says, all right, when you say teenage, how old

685
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: are we talking about?

686
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: Literally thirteen to eighteen, I say thirteen to nineteen.

687
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: I'd say nineteen is included as well.

688
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: Anything with the word teen in it. Robert Well, to

689
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: answer your question, I think like some journalists they go

690
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: out of their way, or people who are critics they

691
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: go out of Like critics, I think you should be

692
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: focused on the stuff that you like, and you not

693
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: writing about the things that you don't like. Is speaking

694
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: volumes that oh it must maybe it's not good because

695
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: you're not giving it that energy. Who go on and

696
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: on and on on the internet to be like, Yeah,

697
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: that specially wasn't good, that comedian is not good, this

698
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: was that movie is trash, and they more so talk

699
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: about how bad things are than the good things. I

700
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: think they're using their platform and in a bad way.

701
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: They could do better. It's just focused on something.

702
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: Like a critic's job is to be critical of the

703
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: thing that they're reviewing, and they're haters a lot of

704
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: I think a lot of critics want to be in

705
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: the position that they're critiquing. They're like, oh, I wish

706
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: I could make that movie, or I wish I could

707
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: be an actor, But they're not.

708
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: If you look at a lot of the critics especially

709
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: in comedy. They wanted to be comedians and failed, and

710
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: now they're critiquing comedy. Who the fuck are you? You

711
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't even work out for you, So now

712
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: you're in a position to be like, yeah, that special

713
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: homophobic blah blah blah, and it's just like, dude, talk

714
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: about the stuff that you like. I was that.

715
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: I don't. I take a lot of issue with critics.

716
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: While I do love hate and I live by it.

717
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: I thrive in it. I was born here, wallow, I

718
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: wallow in it. I do take a lot of issue

719
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: for the exact reasons that you're saying, Sidney, But then

720
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: I think about, like, who would I want to critique

721
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 4: the actual shit, Like if I wanted like an honest

722
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: perspective on what it is? And I don't think comics

723
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: could do that either. I don't think our peers could

724
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: genuinely give us a real response of like what the

725
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: shit is?

726
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: No either, Nope, because a lot of people that in

727
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: that part of it.

728
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: I agree with Sidney and that if when you listen

729
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: to comics review other stand up specials, there are a

730
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: lot of people who you will use that time to

731
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: hate because they didn't get that opportunity because they didn't

732
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: get to shoot that and blah blah, blah blah. I

733
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: think there's more hate there. But I also think people

734
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: thought a word hater around. I mean ever since Maino

735
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: did that song in two thousand whatever everybody, and it's like, no,

736
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: I just don't like this. I don't think everything is hating.

737
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes something is not good.

738
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: I do think I will say that that. I think

739
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: the advancement of that is when you you start to

740
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 4: try to sway other people's opinions on that issue, right

741
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: that be it's small or large, at the point that

742
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: you're like now taking this to a larger group and

743
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: being like, hey, this is stupid, right you're you you're

744
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 4: adding some hate to the mix. I won't call you

745
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: a hater, but you're your hate ish. You're you're a

746
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 4: Kenya Bears pilot hate. I mean to the Disney Channel

747
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: with Disney plus hate ish is what he's working on.

748
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so lengthon, You're not gonna tell us some

749
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 2: some things that you don't like, Well, no.

750
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: Because then we're going to fall into the the the

751
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: dangerous space that I've set up for my I've created

752
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: quite a net I don't want to lose my men.

753
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: But it could be lightning. It could be lightning round

754
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: and we'll just be like, oh I like that.

755
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't like that. Oh yeah, okay, I

756
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: think that's a good one.

757
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: All right, y'all started off. Y'all say what you like,

758
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: and then I'll tell you why it's stupid.

759
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: I love that, Okay, I like the I like the

760
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: animation soul.

761
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: I thought I was nice. I love a good story

762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: about mortality, and uh I did. I will say that

763
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: all the critiques of it being a black film were

764
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: dumb as fuck, and I hated the response. Okay, we're

765
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: talking about hate. I hate so many of the takes

766
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: that have now become very common in terms of black media,

767
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: where we see a black person and then it has

768
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: to now be representation of all blackness. Saul was not

769
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: a black film. It was a film about mortality starring

770
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: Jamie Fox drawn as a Roy Wood Junior type character. Yeah,

771
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: and that not the same thing, do you know what

772
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, that's not a black film. It wasn't

773
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: built for black people. The fact that we can identify

774
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: ourselves in it just means a type of progress that

775
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: we should be celebrating, whereas I think Princess and the

776
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 4: Frog is much more of an actual like slight against

777
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: black people. If you want to unpack that in some

778
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: kind of way.

779
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because she was a frog for ninety percent

780
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: of the movie, and then the rest of the movie

781
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: she was a maid's daughter. She was a.

782
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it. It's a reflection of their inability

783
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: to imagine us as anything other than some real shit

784
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: like it being based in New Orleans, like y'all didn't

785
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: make up a bunch of whimsical ass countries for every

786
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: other princess. That's a conversation to be had. But that

787
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: nigga sold he was. That's just playing at the piano

788
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: and being his best self. I got no complaints.

789
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Andrews. It's something that you like or.

790
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: Hate or are we hating on Justin Timberlake.

791
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: Well, I've never liked him, so yeah, Justin Timberlake is

792
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: a dumb bitch. I think he. I think he madipuld listen.

793
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: I was a big fan for years. I'd be lying

794
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: if I said I didn't enjoy the music twenty twenty experience.

795
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: I saw it. I enjoyed it.

796
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh you went to the show so good.

797
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just I just meant with it.

798
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you really gave him your dollars?

799
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: Got it?

800
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: But nah, yeah, he's a bad guy. That that apology

801
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: was an embarrassment, just some like slightly apologizing for really

802
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: mean things that he did to a number of people

803
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: over the years without any accountability. Is you don't get

804
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: to just be like I might have heard some folks

805
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: and my bad on that one.

806
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: He said, I'll get you guys next time. I'm not

807
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: gonna like move walking off beat when he was late.

808
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: And like, hey, Janet, I'm gonna get you a new bro.

809
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take care of you, baby girl.

810
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: Up.

811
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: He's such a mess.

812
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: We don't like him. Okay, something random that I like

813
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: or don't like?

814
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? What we're doing?

815
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: I don't I forgot, I don't know this y'all show.

816
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, I was asking you to listen some things and

817
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: we was going just lightning round it.

818
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: That's what I asked.

819
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm scared. I'm scared to tell you about the things

820
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: that actually upset me because it's too close in proximity

821
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: and too dangerous for for anybody's brand. You guys have

822
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: a brand to protect too.

823
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: No, we don't. I don't think you really understand the

824
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: pot I mean, we've been doing it for four years.

825
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: We have said the messiest, some of the outlandish, problematic

826
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: things on here, and we're I mean, we're still working,

827
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: We're still I don't think it's that problematic.

828
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: The things that we've said, We've were just honest and

829
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: we stand in our our truths.

830
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. I've never I mean, I've made

831
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: I've made fun of people on here that I'm like, oh,

832
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: they could definitely listen to this and be like, but

833
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: I'm not making We're not making blanket terrible statements about

834
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we know besh community, but that's you know,

835
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: that's yes, that's fine.

836
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: I always forget that y'all called beige white people beige.

837
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: Growing up, I was referred to as beige. And it

838
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: never not doesn't hurt my feelings. When I hear y'all

839
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 4: say it doesn't hurt feelings, or it does, it does

840
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: hurt my feelings every single time. It reminds me of

841
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: a story when I was growing up. My my mother's

842
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: second husband. Uh listen, she's at four, Uh second.

843
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: Yes, we do. Mom push your mom's name Wanda, Wanda, Yes.

844
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think this one's gonna stick. He's a

845
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: good man. They live in Ghana now. Anyway, My mom,

846
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: her second husband, their family lived in Cabrini Green, which

847
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: is a very famous project building or series of buildings,

848
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: the collection of buildings if you will, in Chicago. They

849
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: no longer exist, but we went to visit them one

850
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: time for Easter and we were in the building and

851
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: I had never met his family before. This was my

852
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: first time meeting the family. And I walked in the

853
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: building and we're sitting in their apartment. And then the children,

854
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: the other children of this home, there's like four of them,

855
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: called to the other neighbors in the building. They like,

856
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: go have a meeting out in the hallway of this

857
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: project building. And then they bring the neighbors to the

858
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: door and they go, hey, y'all, look at our white cousin.

859
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: Look at them, look at our white cousin. They make

860
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 4: me stand in the doorway so that they could show

861
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: their friends, their peers that they have a white cousin.

862
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: And then I told their daddy and they got the

863
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: ass will. So you know, I'm a big snitch too.

864
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: We can do that if y'all more focused on snitching,

865
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: I do.

866
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: That too, well, Lexton, did you used to be like

867
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: a really pale child?

868
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 4: Because no, these were just children who didn't see white

869
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: people that often. And I was the closest thing that

870
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 4: they knew as a reference.

871
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: You. You're the You're the Tannis of the light Skins

872
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: that I know. You got some color color on your face?

873
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, mean.

874
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well your is your is your dad? Wait is

875
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: who's who's my father?

876
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: Is white?

877
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: On your side? Your father's white?

878
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: The part is the white one.

879
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: We did. We did talk about that many years ago

880
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: on the Light Skinned Expert. Y'all go back to that.

881
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: It was great. Okay, So you don't you don't want

882
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: to talk about what you actually hate. And I understand

883
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: that because you know you're you're on the boys. You're

884
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: right for many shows, I.

885
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: Mean, you have I can get into general themes. Let's

886
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 4: get into some themes. I think that's a good place

887
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: to land us. Maybe that'll that'll help open this flower

888
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 4: up a little bit. Her.

889
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: You are the cousin.

890
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

891
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm sometimes I'm a little Australian who knows why

892
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: I talk the way I talk.

893
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: Mate. Okay, mate, if you here's something, If you.

894
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just I was just gonna say, if you're

895
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: gonna be the hating expert, I need you to hate something.

896
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I need to hear something.

897
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get into it. Here's something that's been ruffling

898
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 4: my feathers as a late Uh yeah, this is grinding

899
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: and ship out of my gears. I take a lot

900
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: of issue with the the manipulative behavior of the Internet.

901
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: There's been quite a lot of things that I've been

902
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: tracking as of late. Claudia Conway. Let's get into that.

903
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 4: There's a lot of manipulation happening around this girl who

904
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: who is basically just a a misbehaving child. If you

905
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: ask me, as a sixteen year old behaving the way

906
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: that many sixteen year olds do. I'm not calling that

907
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: good or bad, or deciding that she's safe or unsafe.

908
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: I truly don't know. But what I do know is

909
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 4: all you sick fucks at home who are sitting there

910
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: and retweeting her and telling her how brave she is

911
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: or fucking crazy you're thirty. There's no sixteen year old

912
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: in the world that I would ever like, big up

913
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: and be like, you're so brave, you're a champion, you

914
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: should be supported. Shut the fuck up and figure it

915
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: out like the rest of the sixteen year old?

916
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: How old is the little girl that's traveling in the

917
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: world and not going to school on a boat? How

918
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: is that girl who's that, Greta Breda. How old is she?

919
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 4: I believe she's also sixteen years old.

920
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: She got to be like nine or ten or something

921
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: like that. No, I think she's older than that school

922
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: since two thousand and two? How old is she?

923
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Greta is eighteen?

924
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: Eighteen?

925
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I know, given, Okay, Wow, she looks good. Okay,

926
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: Well she's been she's been through a lot, so she

927
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: was younger than eighteen. Good for her.

928
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: Well, she's got a green skincare program, is what she does.

929
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 4: She's all green, no pesticides or preservatives.

930
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: That ozone layer serum that she using. I love this,

931
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, but now she's on But now the Conway

932
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: Chick is America.

933
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: And I think that's hugely unhealthy. And shame on Katy Perry,

934
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: Shame on Lionel Richie, and shame on that other one

935
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: whose name I don't know, for involving themselves in the

936
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 4: life of a child who is not particularly talented by

937
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: all accounts. It wasn't like she nailed the audition. You

938
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 4: guys are just advancing this so that you can advance

939
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: a problematic story and create a Britney Spears. This is

940
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: how you fucking create the ship because we obsess over

941
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: a human being instead of being honest about a sickness

942
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: that's happening.

943
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: I feel so, you know, I was gonna say, I

944
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: feel like, when's the last thing we talked about American Idol.

945
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: American Idol needs this more than they need anything else.

946
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: It's not about Claudia. It's it's not about Kelly Ann.

947
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: It's let's do this thing. It's gonna propel us as

948
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: a trending topic. It's gonna be something that people are

949
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about on news and blah blah blah

950
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah.

951
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: And that's what it is.

952
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: Because I watched a little piece of the audition and

953
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I have to cut this off.

954
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what key she's singing on. This is

955
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: all she don't know. She just being sundin And that's okay.

956
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: I think that that's the beauty of sixteen. As a

957
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: former educator, I watched sixteen year old kids walk up

958
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: to me and be like, mister Carman, this is my dream.

959
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: I want to do this. And I had to listen

960
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: to their bullshit and I had to go, I don't know, man,

961
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: try your best, but I don't. I don't retweet it

962
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: and tell everybody how brave they are and like complain

963
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: about their home situation. I help them navigate as an

964
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: honest person, caring about them.

965
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: But this is also TV, right, Like, I don't look

966
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: at American Idol as a real talent show. Yes, it

967
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: has propelled people who are talented, but I don't Most

968
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: of the things on TV is not based off talent.

969
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: There's all these like ulterior motives and things that they

970
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: want to uplift or take down. And that's what it's

971
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: all about. It's all about the storylines. That's why reality

972
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: TV is the way it is. It's some producer being

973
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: like all right, no, no, now, okay, so we're gonna

974
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: get them in this room and we're gonna make this

975
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: this argument happen. It's all for viewership. They need people

976
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to tune in, and nobody wants to tune in and

977
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: see people just having a regular time they do.

978
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: I think that's absolutely fair and I can't argue with

979
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 4: that at all. But I do think that for every

980
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: person who goes on the internet and advocates for the

981
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: safety of this individual whilst I'm multaneously propelling them through

982
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: the drama, you are a hypocrite. You are part of

983
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 4: the problem that you are complaining has been created, much

984
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: in the way of the Britney Spears fans who are

985
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 4: now like constantly advocating for her to be released from

986
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: her father's grasp. Meanwhile, the reason that she is in

987
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: her father's grasp is because you obsessed over her so

988
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: often and so long that the tabloids felt like they

989
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: had to service your obsessions. But in Creient it was

990
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: complain about the signals.

991
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: But the thing about Britney Spears is it wasn't just

992
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: her fans that were obsessed with her. People were like

993
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: hate watching and hate reading the Britney Spears stuff as well,

994
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: And I think that really is what propelled it, because

995
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: people that didn't even care about Briney Spears were.

996
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: Like, Shad, look look at how with his umbrella hitting

997
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: his guard Like the fans weren't saying that they were like, oh,

998
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: I think she looks good balved Or they were like, oh,

999
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: I hope she's okay.

1000
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: But it's the other it's the other side of it.

1001
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: Also that it we have to think about is the

1002
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: head I'm.

1003
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: Watching, I think, But I would argue and that this

1004
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 4: actually gets me into a slightly different subject but similar

1005
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: in theme is I think that there are quite a

1006
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: few people who know and knowingly invest themselves in their

1007
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: own sort of like opposition, in their own fight, right

1008
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: that like the fans, while they weren't rooting for her

1009
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: to lose, did want Britney News at all times, so

1010
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: they weren't fighting the idea that Brittany was becoming more

1011
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: and more sick. They still wanted Brittany to be in

1012
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: front of them all the time. So yes, I agree,

1013
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: it wasn't like they were going on and being like,

1014
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: look at this dumb bitch with a bald head and

1015
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: the umbrella. But they meanwhile do want a reason to

1016
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 4: argue on the internet. So when people when Britney acts up,

1017
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: that gives them something to now push against when they

1018
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: go leave Brittany alone. It's not just defending Brittany. Also

1019
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: is propelling them.

1020
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: For no, but the Internet was completely different when those

1021
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: tabloids was coming out. It had nothing to do with

1022
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: the Internet. It was more like society loves making a star.

1023
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: They love to see the journey. They want to lift, lift, flift,

1024
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: lift people up, and then when you get to the

1025
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: point of like, oh this is annoying now, they want

1026
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: to see you fall. They love to see when a

1027
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: celebrity is being messy and going to rehab. They did

1028
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: it to Lindsay Lohan. They do it to even Whitney Houston.

1029
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: They they love to see, oh yeah, she's doing crack. Now,

1030
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: Like we're getting mad at these journalists, right, we're mad

1031
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: at both Barbara Walters. But Barbara Walters was doing no,

1032
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: it was Diane Sawyer. Don't don't do Barbara like Diane Sawyer.

1033
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: Sorry, Barbara, sorry so nicely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird dips

1034
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: a little different, but yeah, Barbara.

1035
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Wall yeah, Diane Sawyer. But at the time, this this

1036
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: is what we tune in for, you know, twenty twenty,

1037
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: this is these are the reasons why we want to see.

1038
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: We want see the behind the music, the e hot

1039
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: e true Hollywood stories. They're asking the messy questions that

1040
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: will get the little blurb that you need to hear

1041
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: that people will be like, oh, okay, I'm gonna read

1042
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: about this. I want to know more.

1043
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 4: And I would say that that, to me is part

1044
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: of the sickness. I feel the same way about like

1045
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: the way that people manipulate the black experience now back

1046
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: like it's a bunch of people who, if you took

1047
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 4: away black suffering, wouldn't have anything to tweet about, wouldn't

1048
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: have anything to sort of build their identity on. And I,

1049
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: for one, I enjoy being black for a multitude of

1050
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: reasons that ain't got shit to do with slavery and

1051
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: anything else that was problematic in our history. And while

1052
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: I'm not advocating in any way, I don't want your

1053
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: listeners to turn on me. I'm not advocating in any

1054
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: way that we ignore that history, that we pretend that

1055
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: shit didn't exist. But get the fuck out of here,

1056
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 4: that every day you got to bring up some sad news,

1057
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: shut the fuck.

1058
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: Up between see Langston. That's how I feel about a

1059
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: lot of the black.

1060
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: Films and a lot of the content that like celebrating

1061
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: black voices, and it's always somebody getting beat up or

1062
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: whipped or linged.

1063
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: I can't watch that my soul. Okay, call back, can't that.

1064
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't every.

1065
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Time I see like something happens crazy with like the

1066
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: police or a black person, I don't watch those videos

1067
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: because I don't need to go to sleep seeing those things.

1068
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't watch. I'm not. I've never seen He's a slave.

1069
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm done watching slave movies. I don't. I haven't had help.

1070
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to see these things because I, first

1071
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: of all, I've read the books.

1072
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: I know what happened. My mind already knows. But my

1073
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: my soul and my brain and my conscious, I don't

1074
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: need to see the visuals to support black things or

1075
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: to like be a real black person. But I just

1076
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: I wish that they were still making movies that are

1077
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: as like black people being as stupid as white people

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Speaker 2: are allowed to.

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Speaker 1: Be in their movie? Can can can we Black? Can

1080
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: we do a black dude wears my car? Can we

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Speaker 1: do it?

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00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 4: I want to see a movie where a black man

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: focks a pie and none of us make it about race.

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: It's purely just a man who is horny for pie,

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 4: and it's it's called Negro American pie. You can call

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Speaker 4: it something.

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00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: It's called peach cobbler. That's what it's called. Yeah, it could,

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: it could, it could be a BlackBerry pie, whatever you

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: want it to be. I mean, they just I think

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Speaker 1: that I am against like hating on social media, even

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00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: though it helps some people's careers. I think it it's

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: instant gratification that's not healthy, and it doesn't it doesn't

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00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: cultivate better talents, you know what I mean, Because they

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00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: want everything to be so quick and like a sound bite,

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00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: and they wanted sixty seconds, and they want to be

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00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: able to, oh, this is digestible real quick, and then

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00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: everybody could share it and then oh boom this person

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: and as a star. And it's like when I was

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: growing up, like people literally comedians had to go on

1100
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: tour to actually get their fan base. There was no

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put up this one minute stand up clip

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Speaker 1: and then now I'm touring, I'm in Australia. Like it's

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Speaker 1: just I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Further, I would say that a fair amount of the

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 4: people who are able now to do all of that

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: when they get in person, aren't that good at the thing.

1107
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: Like there's so many of them, and you know, again,

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Speaker 4: I'll be careful.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're trying to say a lot of

1110
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Speaker 2: people from TikTok and YouTube and what's the one, the one.

1111
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: And Instagram and a whole bunch of other.

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Speaker 1: Space we can hate on TikTok. I'm for hating on

1113
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: they can't dance on TikTok. I'm gonna say that.

1114
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: They're in a multitude of spaces sort of like accessing

1115
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 4: resources that rightfully belong to them because they're good at

1116
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 4: whatever that thing is. But also so now these titles

1117
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: are being applied to them that aren't realistic to what

1118
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: they can do. You know what I mean, Like every

1119
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: fucking list that you see on Vulture, Variety, whatever it is,

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: is a list of motherfuckers who can't follow me. And

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: that's crazy, you know what I'm saying that everybody lists.

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: Langston has not been on any of these lists, but.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's a pr I'm not going to go

1124
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 4: play that game in the same way that they are.

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Speaker 4: And I think what I'm saying more importantly is go crazy.

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00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: If that's the type of thing that you want to do,

1127
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 4: I'm not here to stop you, but I am gonna

1128
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: hate on it, and I am going to fully acknowledge.

1129
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: I know what trick you're playing, but the audience doesn't.

1130
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: They don't know that you pay somebody to help you

1131
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 4: get you know, attention in a certain type of way.

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: But I do.

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00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: And that's I found out. I found out about that

1134
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: last year. I was like, oh, niggas is getting And

1135
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: then I found out how much a publicism is. I said,

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: I could not have much go in my pot. Five

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars, and that's for a short

1138
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: amount of time. That's not a publicist for the year.

1139
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Speaker 1: They do a little, They do a roundabout for like

1140
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing press for, and then they're done. Then

1141
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do and it's you gotta pay them again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1142
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: I went to a meeting and they were like the

1143
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: guy was like, I love the podcast. I love you guys.

1144
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: You know what you need a publicist? What they're like, yes,

1145
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: you want to reach it? Split how much it costs?

1146
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: I said, how much? Five thousand dollars? I said, why

1147
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: would we pay that? Why don't people just say that

1148
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: we're good and we get the.

1149
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: Person calculating the numbers, she pulled out her phone.

1150
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: I said, we don't have the money each each, I said,

1151
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: scrounge that up. No, we don't. I said, if you

1152
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: think I told the guy in the meeting, I said,

1153
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: if you think we're that good, you should pay for

1154
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: a publicist for us. I said, there's no way you

1155
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: could tell the artists that I, my broke.

1156
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: Ass needs to pay. We gotta start talking about titties

1157
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: or something on the podcast. We gotta change the cover art.

1158
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. They I think there's a there's

1159
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: a faction of the world that we work in, live

1160
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 4: in that would want you to spend that money. And

1161
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Speaker 4: there's plenty of people that we know who have spent

1162
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 4: that money and benefited. That's okay, but don't pretend like

1163
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Speaker 4: this is uh, this is an elevated version of the

1164
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: art form. Just tell me what the fuck happened? They

1165
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: spent the money, you didn't, so go crazy.

1166
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Speaker 1: Well, because they're embarrassed. They're embarrassed that they had to

1167
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: think that, but is embarrassed about paying for a publicist. Though.

1168
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Speaker 1: The people who can afford to pay for a publicist,

1169
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: it's like having a manager or an agent for them.

1170
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: It's just like a part of the team.

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Speaker 4: And I think we're we're repped, right, Like, I think

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 4: there's people who don't have reps who are saying the

1173
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: same shit about people like you and I and all

1174
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: of us, like it's it's they're sitting there like if

1175
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 4: he didn't have an agent, he wouldn't be shit, he

1176
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't have shit. And maybe that's true. I truly don't know.

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Speaker 4: But what I do know is at least with stand up,

1178
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: you gotta we all gotta follow each other. I go,

1179
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 4: you go right, and one way or the other, we

1180
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 4: get to see what the shit looks like live versus

1181
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 4: whatever the Internet has told us it's meant to be.

1182
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing too about these like Vine, Instagram, YouTube,

1183
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: TikTok people is when they get a certain amount of followers,

1184
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: their reps tell them to do stand up because they

1185
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: know that they can sell out a weekend in the

1186
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: city or in Atlanta or blah blah blah wherever, and

1187
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: people show up to see them perform. But at these

1188
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: comedy clubs, the thing that I keep hearing is that

1189
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: they find out real real quick that their funny person

1190
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: that they follow, their social media star, is not funny

1191
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: in real life.

1192
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: It's a different funny.

1193
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: These people who pay to see you that one time,

1194
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: they're not coming back the next time you come back

1195
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: to their city.

1196
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: But you've already sold out three dates.

1197
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and frankly, that's the challenge, right, is that

1198
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: now with social media, all you got to do is

1199
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 4: say this shits sold out. You keep selling out. It's

1200
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: not a question of the quality of the experience, and

1201
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: that just makes it all complicated and messy.

1202
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, I want to be honest that I'm gonna hate

1203
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: on this generation because if we want to hate, they

1204
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: don't actually know what fucking is good or not. Like

1205
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: just period, Like I remember like listening to albums and

1206
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they really had a band. They're

1207
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: playing these instruments while they're singing. They had there's no

1208
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: there was no real studio voice. It was like either

1209
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: you can sing or you cannot sing. And so now

1210
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: everything is generated, everything can be filtered and put a

1211
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: spin on it, and you're like, now we can sell it,

1212
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: and that's that's what people want to hear. Anyway. They

1213
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: don't want to hear the old school R and B.

1214
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: They're like, that's all that's sad. It's like, no, that

1215
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: was people actually putting in the work in their field.

1216
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: And that's why, to your point, that's why I don't

1217
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 4: run from the title of hater. That's why I'm not

1218
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 4: scared of it. Is because I think, personally I believe

1219
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: that we need to bring hating back. I think a

1220
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: certain generation hit I wouldn't even say it's this generation,

1221
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: but probably the generation before, where they shamed people for

1222
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: having outspoken opinions about like some shit that they didn't

1223
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 4: care for, for stuff that's trash. And then it became like, okay, well,

1224
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 4: we'll just let everything exist and run wild. And now

1225
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: we have a bunch of people who are both exceptional

1226
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: and awful living in the exact same spaces, and that's crazy.

1227
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Speaker 1: Exceptional and awful and everybody both exceptional and awful is

1228
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: making money and they're posting on Instagram that they just

1229
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: bought a house, and it's like but, but it was

1230
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: like an influx this past year of people who were

1231
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: like what do you do? And they're like, I just

1232
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: want my first house. I'm twenty four, right, And it's like,

1233
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: is everybody is twenty four? Everybody? Nobody, nobody's twenty seven.

1234
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Everybody we didn't have the same access. I mean, what

1235
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 1: did I have a dial up aim like that about it.

1236
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, remember.

1237
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: I was never so lucky.

1238
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Speaker 1: And you know, good, good for them, that's great, that's

1239
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: great for them. But then that's I feel bad for

1240
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: the generation after this, because then they're going to have

1241
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: to hear all this awful music. Well all the music,

1242
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: some a lot of it, but all of it is

1243
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: not bad. It's some bops.

1244
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.

1245
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the Doula peep. I don't.

1246
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it. I don't like it. Yeah,

1247
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm like, they make it. She's so good

1248
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like I saw her perform and I was like,

1249
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: they don't have cold text she could text h she

1250
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: was on Saturday night, but I did listen. She was

1251
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday. She's she's She's performed everywhere. I'm like, I don't.

1252
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I listened to lip like a couple of weeks ago

1253
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I was like, this is I.

1254
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: I had a completely different reaction than you, friend. I said,

1255
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: pretty please, I said, I'm here for this. It's it's I.

1256
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was. I said, I don't. I

1257
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it says Hype. I think

1258
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: she's a very thin, very thin girl that's very marketable,

1259
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: and that's why she is.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that has always existed, right, We've

1261
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: always we've always in music and art and all these

1262
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: things been competing with somebody's attractiveness versus skill. That's a

1263
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 4: conversation that that's as old as time. But I do

1264
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 4: think that there was at least was a period where

1265
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 4: we were comfortable being like, I don't know that ain't ship,

1266
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 4: but go crazy like enjoy your your thing if that's

1267
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: what you want. And then we reached this period where

1268
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't safe anymore to be like that ain't shit,

1269
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 4: and and I think we got to bring that back.

1270
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Speaker 4: We gotta, we gotta come back.

1271
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Speaker 1: But you know what it is, it's stand culture.

1272
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: Stand culture is what makes people afraid to say what

1273
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: they do or don't like, especially if the person is

1274
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: famous enough, like Nicki Minaj has Nicki Minaj has barbs,

1275
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: and that's a that's a level of crazy that you're like,

1276
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: wait what.

1277
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: And be right. But then Beyonce has what's Beyonce? People

1278
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: called the High, the High, the High, be hoop tier

1279
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: will like dis Roy Life find your right post a

1280
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: picture of you from nineteen ninety eight where you didn't

1281
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: have no teeth like the hivest next level disrespectful. Yes,

1282
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Carrie Hilston has not had a remember her, I don't

1283
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: even know when she don't know she's not.

1284
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 4: Came out as an anti vaxxer this year, and I

1285
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 4: think that sort of made it a little more complicated.

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Speaker 4: But to that point, maybe Carry Hilson doesn't find herself

1287
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 4: as an anti vaxer if we just hear her out

1288
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 4: when she started making fun of Beyonce the first time.

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Speaker 1: But did she make fun did she make fun of

1290
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: Beyonce or did what did she say?

1291
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know.

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01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: She might have been like, oh, I heard the song.

1293
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: She might have said I heard it, but I didn't

1294
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: really like it, and people were like, what did you?

1295
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, not all Beyonce songs. I'm going on

1296
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: record saying this, not all Beyonce songs are good songs.

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: She's an affair. She's oh, everything doesn't have to be good,

1298
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: but like it's the overall, it's the overall, like oh yeah,

1299
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Fox would Beyonce like yes, and I.

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 4: Think you'd be an unreasonable I think, And that's where

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: I draw the line, right, is it would be unreasonable

1302
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 4: for me to come on this podcast and be like,

1303
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: fuck Beyonce, she ain't.

1304
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna replay everywhere.

1305
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey Beyonce can suck my.

1306
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: Dick like number two. No, we will, we will. We're

1307
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: sending to.

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 4: The point is that's an unreasonable position. She's obviously one

1309
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: of the most talented people in her industry. There is

1310
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 4: right in that little like space of people who do

1311
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 4: what she does. She's the best at it. That said,

1312
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: she ain't for me, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1313
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of times where I'm like, I don't

1314
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 4: give a fuck about whatever. This ship that my wife

1315
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: and everybody I know is going crazy for it ain't

1316
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: for me. But I ain't mad at it, and I

1317
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 4: certainly have to respect the talent in it, whereas there

1318
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 4: are other people who we don't have to respect the

1319
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: talent in nor should we, but we keep being told

1320
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 4: we need to. And that to me is dangerous and

1321
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 4: problematic and speaks to the stand culture that you're talking

1322
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: about of just wanting to obsess over something instead of

1323
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 4: being honest about what it actually provides for us.

1324
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that you quoted r Kelly earlier

1325
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: and now you're saying that, yeah, yeah, I'm.

1326
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: A man who makes subtle homage. But he's sick. And

1327
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 4: I come from Chicago and we spent years obsessing over him.

1328
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 4: I literally knew the girl he peed on, and I

1329
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: still didn't have an understanding of what sexual assault was

1330
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 4: because the community around me is telling me that's not

1331
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: the same dangerous person that the pervert down the street is,

1332
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 4: and it is. It's just a more powerful pervert.

1333
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: Did you go to school with the girl who got

1334
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: peed on?

1335
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: Or she was like that? That is correct?

1336
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 3: She?

1337
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 4: Uh? He used to come to our uh our games

1338
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 4: to pick her up. She was a cheerleader.

1339
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: You know you're but you're not the first person to this.

1340
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone that I know from Chicago has

1341
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: has an R Kelly.

1342
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: R Kelly loves into the high school story.

1343
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 4: No, he went to a lot of high schools. Let's

1344
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: not get it twisted. It's not like she was special

1345
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 4: when he peed on on her. She was one of

1346
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 4: many girls that he was sexually assaulted, right. Uh, she

1347
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 4: just happened to be the one that broke the case.

1348
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: Open, right, the p that broke the camel's back, if you.

1349
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: Will, yes, right? And who would have thought camel's backs

1350
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: could be broken by pete? But they sure can.

1351
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: So Langston, are you are you listening to R Kelly

1352
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: when it comes on? Or are you turning it off?

1353
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: That's I don't. I don't.

1354
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 4: I don't need those bad feelings. I'm not about to

1355
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 4: be that guy who like advocates for listening to R. Kelly.

1356
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 4: I will say that I'm not fighting. Everybody wants me

1357
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 4: to be mad at Michael, and I can't do it.

1358
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't know Michael Jackson. Well that's because he died.

1359
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: He died, so we can't really get the case.

1360
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 4: But if I'm being honest, I don't think that the

1361
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 4: motherfucker was innocent. I I truly don't believe that, like

1362
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: those boys are just completely making up the story. I

1363
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 4: don't know that I believe that it went to the

1364
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 4: extent that they've they've gone to. But I do think

1365
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: that anytime an adult man is having any little intimacy

1366
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: with little white boys, there's a problem there.

1367
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: He was This.

1368
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: Is wait a minute, little Michael ain't never heard nobody right,

1369
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 4: Little little Michael was hurt it.

1370
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: So we can listen to Little Michael and the Jackson five.

1371
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm still do you remember the time Jackson when it

1372
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: comes on the shuffle? So but R Kelly is blocked

1373
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: from being played.

1374
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 4: On my phone. I don't do no Chris trying to

1375
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 4: stay away from Breezy as much as possible.

1376
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: That being said, No guidance was a bop.

1377
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: It was so it was the one with rhymes. That

1378
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 4: was a pretty good one.

1379
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: How you can hate from outside the club you can't

1380
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: even get in that one.

1381
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: There you go, that's a good one. Yeah, I mean listen.

1382
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I think if you have a platform, right, I think

1383
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: you could use your hating in a in a good way.

1384
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: I think the things that you don't like, you just

1385
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: don't mention it, because when you're mentioning in it, you're

1386
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: giving it more traction. So I think if you're a

1387
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: smart hater, you would hate in your group text and

1388
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: then only promote the stuff that you actually like on

1389
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: And that's.

1390
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: Something I wholeheartedly believe. I think you're putting it in

1391
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 4: a better way than I put it earlier. I think

1392
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 4: that the best thing I can do is just remained

1393
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 4: silent on the things that that give me pause, because

1394
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 4: more more often than not, the second I go I

1395
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 4: don't fuck with this thing, at least thirty people are

1396
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 4: going to gravitate towards it, if for no other reason

1397
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: than what you were saying, Maria being oppositional or at

1398
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: least being curious about the shit that I hated on.

1399
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, I like a I was asking something.

1400
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: I was going to add to that, and then I

1401
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: forgot what it was. Oh, oh Langston hate.

1402
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is what brought down Bill Cosby, Okay, because

1403
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: he was hating on a specific community. And then Hannibal said,

1404
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: instead of telling people to pull they pens up, Bill,

1405
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: you should be you should stop pulling people's pants down.

1406
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: And then the whole thing opened up. And look at

1407
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby in prison now with blossy eyes.

1408
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 4: He he built an empire. Uh in his latter life

1409
01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 4: later life on being unkind to poor black people. That

1410
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 4: was his whole brand was just I've read the fucking

1411
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 4: transcripts for what they called the pound Cake speech. That's

1412
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 4: the speech where he was basically going on those long

1413
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: rants about you know, black kids pulling up their pants

1414
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 4: and all the terrible mothers who were raising them, And

1415
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: it's just a mean, mean person who clearly doesn't feel

1416
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 4: any connection to anybody under a certain like economic level.

1417
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 4: And that's fucking crazy. And yeah, you deserve to get

1418
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, you dick slept in prison or whatever it

1419
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 4: is that's happening to him.

1420
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: We don't know and we don't care, but he deserves

1421
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: anything that's happening to him. And like, but like, how

1422
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: dare you be hating on that when you when.

1423
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: You got so much worse in your closet? Yeah, why

1424
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: are you worried about my pants?

1425
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 3: Sir?

1426
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: Where the quaylud's at? Let's talk?

1427
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 4: And to that point, that's something I also try to do,

1428
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: is like, if I'm gonna hate on some shit, I

1429
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 4: want to at least believe that I'm not putting out

1430
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 4: some like equally problematic version of that thing. Most of

1431
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 4: the stuff I hate, I feel like I at least

1432
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 4: can I can do better or I am doing better

1433
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 4: on something, and I try to leave some ship that

1434
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: like I can't do alone. So even with like the

1435
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 4: TikTok dances, I don't get mad at motherfucker's getting rich

1436
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 4: off of TikTok dances because I ain't gonna do it

1437
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: and I don't know how, Like I truly don't.

1438
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: It's a lot of this and like clapping had a

1439
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: shy clap. Yeah, it's all in the arms. It's all

1440
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: the arms. It's less about the it's less about this.

1441
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: It's actually not even really about the rhythm at all.

1442
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: It's just like maybe, no, it's never and there's a

1443
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: slide what which is? Which is fine? We're not going

1444
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: to be mad at that. Oh oh you know what?

1445
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: People were upset about that. I would like to hear

1446
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: your take on Kevin. They were they were dragging his special.

1447
01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: They were saying, it's bad, it's.

1448
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: Kevin, but also I don't know, well.

1449
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. So then they went into clubhouse

1450
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: and they were dragging it, and then he got in

1451
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: the room and was trying to defend his special one club.

1452
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: But and this is where it gets real sick for

1453
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 4: old Kevin because he part of the reason he went

1454
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 4: on clubhouses, because he's an investor in clubhouse and like

1455
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: a cross promotion pollination type thing of getting people to

1456
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 4: be attracted to the thing. It's a it's a koy

1457
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 4: game that he's playing with us. But at the end

1458
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 4: of the day, it was just a dude who put

1459
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 4: out garbage, and he knew he put out garbage, but

1460
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 4: he also like felt like he needed to have something

1461
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 4: because his ego is built the way his ego is built.

1462
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. There's no healing, right, Like,

1463
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm not going to offer up anything that makes Kevin better.

1464
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 4: But also, nigga, you know what that special was doing?

1465
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: It was I fell asleep. I put it on and

1466
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, he's in his house. Yeah, And

1467
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: I woke up and Netflix was like you still watching it?

1468
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 1: And I was like no, and I just shut my laptop.

1469
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 4: I'm not watching this no more. I watched every minute

1470
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 4: of it.

1471
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: You okay, And I'll say this. I watch between all

1472
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: the rooms.

1473
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: Every special that comes out, and I have opinions on

1474
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 4: every single one, even people who I don't care for

1475
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 4: from the beginning of watching it.

1476
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think we need to do a patron episode

1477
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: of this. I think people need to pay twenty dollars,

1478
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: no fifty dollars if they want to hear what you

1479
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: really We.

1480
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 4: Can go down the list if we If this is

1481
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,879
Speaker 4: a paywall situation, we can I could.

1482
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: Say without the wall being up, how you feel about

1483
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: Andrew Shultz Special because that's a comic that people keep

1484
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: bringing up when I talk.

1485
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 4: It was terrible. I think we can all agree that that.

1486
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: Also was not I haven't I didn't watch it. Isn't

1487
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: it like a bunch of things. It was fifteen minutes.

1488
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 4: It's four or fifteen minutes specials. It's minutes total. But

1489
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: it's it's his take on four different things. Most of

1490
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 4: it is just him making weird Jeffrey Epstein puns and

1491
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 4: like sort of uh scolding people for being human. I

1492
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 4: don't know, it's not great, But that said, I take

1493
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 4: a lot of issue. I think my larger issue with

1494
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 4: a lot of that is, uh, there's, uh, there's something

1495
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 4: really yucky about this brand of white boy who uh

1496
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 4: sort of appropriates black culture without giving any credit to

1497
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: any of like black go off. It doesn't feel that

1498
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 4: far from the Jake Paul of it all for me,

1499
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, motherfucker, are we being black

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01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 4: or not? Like, just be honest about where the fuck

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01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 4: you got this from. Cause, nigga, you don't talk like

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01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 4: that around your family. I'm one hundred percent sure that

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01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 4: ain't your family voice.

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: That's not your talking to the irs voice.

1505
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: That's not your talking to your voice, that's not getting

1506
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: pulled over voice.

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: That's not how you talk at Thanksgiving, Like.

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01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 4: Get the fuck god? He you don't talk like that,

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 4: and nor do I.

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01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I don't know, he's been like he's

1511
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: on on guy code, he's I mean, he's been talking

1512
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: like this for a long like yeah, but you know

1513
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: he's been with Charlemagne forever. So like but you know

1514
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: who else? Damn I keeping.

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01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: You'll get no fight out of me. I agree he

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 4: put them on. And that's that's enough bullshit to me

1517
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 4: to even begin the conversation. Amongst other things, that he

1518
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: did mean things to black women for years before he

1519
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 4: woke up and decided to rebrand himself.

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01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: H damn Linkston. We gotta get this patriot. I really

1521
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: want to.

1522
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 4: Know, Bridges, I don't give.

1523
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 1: I really feel like you would give us the content.

1524
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: I really wish you would have been some bridges today,

1525
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, we're not gonna We're

1526
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: not gonna keep you for much younger. Do you have

1527
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: some tips on how to hate properly? Do you have

1528
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 1: some some tips on how to get over being a hater? Anything?

1529
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: A nice way to hate, thank you for asking. I

1530
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 4: think a nice way to hate is to UH is

1531
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 4: to post without context to your group chat. Just post

1532
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 4: the thing, allow the responses to flow and build your

1533
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 4: your your full perspective from that. So something you don't

1534
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 4: find UH to be yummy and as you you see it,

1535
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,759
Speaker 4: you give it to your group, your small little circle.

1536
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: You let them say what they got to say, and

1537
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 4: then once you've had a finished sort of perspective on it,

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 4: that's when you unleash the full round of hateration. Exactly.

1539
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed it. I don't think it's that I

1540
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: didn't like it too much. And then you're like, you

1541
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: pounce yes, then you go off, Okay, I like that.

1542
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: That's a good test, and.

1543
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 4: That way you don't ever feel like, oh, this is

1544
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 4: just coming from an unfinished place. You get a full,

1545
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: finished perspective and then you throw.

1546
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: It in Okay. So is there any is there such

1547
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: thing as hate redemption? Yeah?

1548
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: Didn't like something for X amount of time and then

1549
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: you one day you like, oh.

1550
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 4: Wait, I kind of get it now, and I yes,

1551
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 4: I think I think that that you should have the

1552
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 4: right to not like something, to hate on something, but

1553
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 4: also be able to give it the space if you're

1554
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 4: a human enough person. We all change, we all grow,

1555
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 4: we're all evolving at all times, and there's space for

1556
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 4: you to be a person who goes I didn't like

1557
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 4: that at first, or I used to not like whatever

1558
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: this person was putting out, but now I do. I

1559
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 4: used to fuck with Kevin Hart super hard, and now

1560
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: I don't. But that doesn't mean that he might not

1561
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 4: put out something where I go, man, he found it again,

1562
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: and that's okay. But right now that special stinks and

1563
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 4: that's fine.

1564
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So you can hate something and then

1565
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: if there's something they do make something good, you could

1566
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: be like, hey, hey, just because I hate them doesn't

1567
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: mean I can't acknowledge that that was pretty good.

1568
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that Langston was saying he's given hard.

1569
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: I think he's saying he hates he hates the spend.

1570
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no.

1571
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 4: I'm just saying yeah, I and yes. But I think

1572
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 4: to both of those questions, yes, you cannot like someone,

1573
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 4: you cannot like the product, but if you are an

1574
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 4: honest human being, you also should be able to acknowledge

1575
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 4: that we evolve and change and grow. So maybe you

1576
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 4: feel differently five minutes from now or ten years from now,

1577
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 4: who knows.

1578
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow Langston, thank you for helping us evolve and

1579
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: change and grow tonight. Yeah, I want one last thing

1580
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: instead of we're going to flip the hating and we're

1581
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna do some like uplifting a Lengston say, I would

1582
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: like you to go around the room and just say

1583
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: a few positive things about each of the people on

1584
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: the zoom to close us out. Yeah, you know, I

1585
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: love that.

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01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 4: First of all, Andrew, those lights are spectacular. As soon

1587
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 4: as I got on, I said, those are beautiful lights.

1588
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 4: And I wish I had the audacity to hang lights

1589
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 4: in the room that I'm in, but this is mostly

1590
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 4: empty room that I'm allowed to work in, but because

1591
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 4: my wife doesn't respect me anyway, love your lights, and

1592
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 4: you've been very patient, and you're a good producer as

1593
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 4: far as I can tell. Who knows if you can edit.

1594
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 4: But the goddamn heroes far as.

1595
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: It's hard to compete with their lights. They all have

1596
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 3: go sex lights, as they call them.

1597
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 4: So hey, we all have sex and different colors. So

1598
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 4: you're having sex and white Christmas and they're having sex

1599
01:24:52,760 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 4: in different Christmases, alternative Christmases. Okay, Marie, I listen you. You

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01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 4: you nailed it with that peach cobbler. Goddamn, was that

1601
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 4: a funny ass joke? Fucking a pie and it's called

1602
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 4: a black man fucking a pie and it's called that's

1603
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 4: goddamn funny. And Uh, I'm glad you had that all

1604
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 4: that wine because you're loose. I love it.

1605
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting all the questions that I want to ask,

1606
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: but I'm going to have more. Uh, thank you, Lang

1607
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: sty Okay.

1608
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: And now Sydney, Sydney, Oh, Sydney, I text you on

1609
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 4: your birthday and you didn't reply, but I forgive you

1610
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 4: for that. But more importantly, Sydney, your hair looks beautiful,

1611
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 4: You're you're glowing in your pink light. You look fantastic.

1612
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 4: And you brought in some very important counter perspectives to

1613
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 4: some of the things that I was saying. That helped

1614
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 4: me sharpen my my perspective on hate. And I appreciated that.

1615
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 4: This evening, I'm going.

1616
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: To say a positive thing about you and then you

1617
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: can go and then we'll wrap this up.

1618
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 4: Oh sure, you went.

1619
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: All the way around and didn't mention seminary key no

1620
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:15,440
Speaker 1: one time. I think you did a phenomenal job tonight, babe.

1621
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 4: No, it was a it was a tight rope, and

1622
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 4: boy was I was hanging over spikes on one side

1623
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 4: and ice crystals on the other.

1624
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 6: Man.

1625
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 4: I managed it. I figured it out.

1626
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: He saw my face. I was like, I saw it.

1627
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta say some snot like a

1628
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 4: little you know, a little comment. I'll talk about her birthday.

1629
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 4: I'll bring up the factor apply to text messages. But

1630
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna bring up that cemeitary. That's that's difficult.

1631
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: You were thank you tell people who are listening where

1632
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: they can catch you, where they can see you, you.

1633
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 4: Know, Okay, Yeah, you can catch me online at Langston

1634
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 4: Kerrman on all the platforms l A N G S

1635
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 4: T O n K E R M A N. I

1636
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 4: don't know why I spelled it for you. You've figured it out.

1637
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: It's pretty fit Leangston.

1638
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't listen. Well, I've been called leslie far

1639
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 4: too many times to put faith in the human ear.

1640
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 4: And oh and please go listen to my podcast. It's

1641
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 4: called my Mama Told Me and we talk about black

1642
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 4: people and their conspiracy theories. And the cool sort of

1643
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 4: like uh not QAnon of of the world around us,

1644
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 4: all the anti QAnon if you will on my podcast,

1645
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: which is.

1646
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: Real fun, beautiful. Thanks so much, Leangston, Sydney. Any final words, Andrew,

1647
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: final words, Leangthston. You've been so consistent. I mean, ever

1648
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: since I've met you seven years ago, you've been uh stunning,

1649
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: hilarious and and and yeah, I've never seen you. I've

1650
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: never seen you unemployed and broke, and I love that.

1651
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: And I'll make sure to text you back. Man, I'll

1652
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: even I'll even face.

1653
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm not fighting that. I'll take a FaceTime here and there. Marie.

1654
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 4: You're gonna FaceTime. Any face time is coming your way.

1655
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: You didn't text me on my birthday.

1656
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 4: That's sure.

1657
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm I was like.

1658
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it either. Yeah, I was like,

1659
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: he definitely doesn't.

1660
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna text you on your birthday, Andrew, No deed,

1661
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 4: you'll get no text message from me on your birthday.

1662
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't get a text from them either.

1663
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Andrew October on your birthday, Yes, I speak.

1664
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 3: My birthday is November.

1665
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means we surely did.

1666
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I definitely text you the receipts to be okay. All right, yeah, well,

1667
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this once again episode with

1668
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: everybody on the call being sexy as fuck. You know

1669
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: what to do, leave a review, rate, subscribe, do all

1670
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: those things, make sure you're following us, follow us on

1671
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: all of our platforms, and uh.

1672
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, one fabulous rest of the week or whatever

1673
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: the hell the end of that sentence was supposed to be.

1674
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, Bye guys, Bye Forever Dog. This has been a

1675
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Forever Dog production.

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01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,559
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1677
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:33,479
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1678
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,360
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1679
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1682
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1683
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1684
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