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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so interested to see how it continued plays

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Speaker 1: What's up? Be a fam It's Brown Ambition, It's your girl,

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Speaker 1: How are y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: When I got home Sunday, I was like, you know

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Speaker 3: have midterms and then in twenty twenty eight, what are

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Speaker 3: we going to see? Are we going to see even

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Speaker 3: more black women running for office?

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Speaker 1: Can we finally say we have a black woman governor?

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Speaker 1: Because it's still there has never been a black woman

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Speaker 1: that is so wild, isn't it? That should have been

442
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Speaker 1: staisy like justice for Stacy.

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Speaker 3: I remember one time talking it was like back when

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Speaker 3: this was back when like Tim Scott was elected and

445
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Speaker 3: because he was the first black Republican I think elected

446
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Speaker 3: to the Senate since reconstruction. Our friend turned to me

447
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Speaker 3: and she's like, the thing about reconstruction, that means since

448
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Speaker 3: slavery ended. And just her saying that put into the

449
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Speaker 3: perspective of like that's wild. All of this is very wild.

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Speaker 3: Like whenever someone says the first such and such since reconstruction,

451
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, since slavery ended.

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Speaker 2: This is also interesting because you know, after the last

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Speaker 2: the election black women, we were like.

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Speaker 4: We did what we had to do.

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Speaker 2: We're taking a break, like, but we never took a break,

456
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Speaker 2: like look at us now basically trying to figure it

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Speaker 2: out again or just trying to do more, and like

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Speaker 2: you said, JQ, like I'm curious to see what else,

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Speaker 2: what else are we going to do or going to

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Speaker 2: have to do and you know, just rally our community

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Speaker 2: to make more impact within midterms. So it's like things

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Speaker 2: like that. It's just interesting to see. It's like, no,

463
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Speaker 2: we actually don't do the whole break thing very well.

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Speaker 1: We just going we just can't help it. I will

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Speaker 1: say I joined the local PTA, so you know, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure that is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not on the I'm not on the

468
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Speaker 1: PTA board. I'm like accidentally, I kind of joined it.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be a part of the literacy

470
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Speaker 1: event because I love books and babies. But now I'm

471
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Speaker 1: on all the email chains and uh yeah, I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it hyper local. Okay. I am worried about

473
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Speaker 1: my school district because it is very it is very

474
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Speaker 1: one note, one queue, and even though my neighborhood was

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Speaker 1: one of the neighborhoods that they read, they'd redrew the

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Speaker 1: school district to kind of add some color to the district.

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Speaker 1: Everyone seems to know that. And sometimes you tend to

478
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Speaker 1: feel like people will kind of say, like, oh, so

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Speaker 1: you know where do you live, Oh, behind the school,

480
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Speaker 1: there's like the behind the school, and then there's it's

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Speaker 1: it's very coded, it's a little and with my baby

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Speaker 1: being in that school, I'm like, let me have eyes

483
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Speaker 1: on this shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, I get that.

485
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Speaker 1: I let me put Brown Ambission podcast in my email signature.

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Speaker 3: And Joy, are you one of those parents that like

487
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Speaker 3: my dad especially, he had the flexibility in his job

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Speaker 3: where he was like the type of where he's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just show up.

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Speaker 1: Oh bless, And it.

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Speaker 3: Was like both for so I knew he had the

492
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Speaker 3: capability to show up, but also so that teacher's administration

493
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Speaker 3: do he had the ability to just show up to

494
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Speaker 3: kind of keep everybody like keep it cute.

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Speaker 4: Everybody needs to keep it cute.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna helicopter my son like,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell I'm not gonna threaten him, like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna email your teacher of this, that and the third.

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Speaker 1: But I do definitely believe and making my presence know

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Speaker 1: and making sure I was I was such a shy kid,

501
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Speaker 1: and I think I was overlooked for a long time

502
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Speaker 1: for being bright and being like being really talented in

503
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Speaker 1: certain areas because I was so quiet, and because I

504
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Speaker 1: know and really there wasn't a lot of time or

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Speaker 1: energy put into the quiet kids. And so I see

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Speaker 1: a lot of myself and my son and this is,

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Speaker 1: you know, no shape to my mom. She was a

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Speaker 1: single mom for kids in the nineties, like she had

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Speaker 1: a lot going on, barely email, right. So but now

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going my strategy is to make

511
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Speaker 1: sure that I do a lot of the socializing in

512
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Speaker 1: advance of my son, so that at least his teacher

513
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Speaker 1: knows me, his friend's parents know me. And I just

514
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Speaker 1: feel like he can benefit a little bit from if

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Speaker 1: I feel very included and I feel very comfortable with

516
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Speaker 1: his school and with the other people at the school.

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Speaker 1: And I'm seeing that make starting to make a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: He feels more comfortable in those spaces, and that's the

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Speaker 1: kind of and I also I do like the idea

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Speaker 1: that his teacher knows. Okay, I'm not afraid to email.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at the school, you know, doing Mystery

522
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Speaker 1: Reader or volunteering at the ice pop social These people

523
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Speaker 1: love them, some ice pops, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 4: Just to keep an eye for sure, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I did email his principle and try to get him

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Speaker 1: in the one black teacher's class, but I was not successful.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mister Burton, I'm sure he gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on him. But to y'all see this crazy

529
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Speaker 1: headline about to pivot into from black mother and Black

530
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Speaker 1: women's excellence to white women shenanigans and what may probably

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Speaker 1: be the synopsis for the next hit Netflix series. Shannon Muldoon,

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Speaker 1: who's called a bright and vibrant media executive, was just

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Speaker 1: fired and found that she had charged hundreds of thousands

534
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Speaker 1: of dollars over the course of years to the company

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Speaker 1: her corporate credit card. She worked at a website called

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Speaker 1: food fifty two. She used her credit card for clothing,

537
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Speaker 1: for flights, for private gym sessions, and all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Have you all heard about this?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 4: This is on my to read list because I love

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Speaker 4: the cut.

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Speaker 3: Full disclaimer. New York mag is also part of the

544
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Speaker 3: Vox Media family.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah there, let me hold a subscription real quick, I know.

547
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Speaker 3: I was like every time I'm like, let me get

548
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Speaker 3: my little employee login, I'm like, oh, thank you. Because

549
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Speaker 3: they have all the good stuff. Every time something goes viral,

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Speaker 3: I feel like the cut is at the state.

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Speaker 1: Of the crime. They got the Anna Delvi story that

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Speaker 1: was them. This is another Oh that makes so much

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Speaker 1: sense because I was thinking of her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they also got and you know, not to

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Speaker 4: like pile on.

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Speaker 3: But the finance expert who gave away like however many

557
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars in a shoe box was also a cut

558
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Speaker 3: article that was a first person written thing like, the

559
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Speaker 3: cut is always at the scene of a viral article

560
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: of white woman shenanigans, and I am forever grateful to

561
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Speaker 3: them for it.

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Speaker 1: I would love them to not enrich them that bad

563
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Speaker 1: women after that, because you know, like Ana Delvi, I mean,

564
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Speaker 1: come on, now, she was on Dancing with the Stars

565
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Speaker 1: for a hot minute. Yeah, we took.

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Speaker 2: Care of that, but like actually on the show, and yes, in.

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Speaker 1: Her ankle brace or her not ankle brace, what do

568
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Speaker 1: you call it, Yeah, her ankle monitor.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did not know that.

570
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Speaker 2: Yes, now that's wild, that's crazy.

571
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Speaker 1: That's that's the diabolical level of the back to the

572
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Speaker 1: food woman, Shannon. That's a diabolical level of what is it,

573
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Speaker 1: like an ego narcissism. You have to really convince yourself

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Speaker 1: that you're allowed to like you're allowed to do that

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Speaker 1: to justify it.

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Speaker 4: I would just be so paranoid of like I would not.

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Speaker 3: I would I never live under the delusion that I

578
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Speaker 3: can get away with fraud of any kind. Fraud is

579
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Speaker 3: not for me, Like, no, it's just me. Yeah, like

580
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Speaker 3: the people who scam. I'm I find scammers intriguing and entertaining,

581
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Speaker 3: but I could never be one of them because one,

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Speaker 3: I think some of it is like guilt that has

583
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Speaker 3: been instilled to me via religion at a very young age,

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Speaker 3: and then also just kind of being a decent person

585
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Speaker 3: like I just it would it makes my stomach hurt.

586
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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine this scammers thing is actually funny

587
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Speaker 3: because I'm like, how do you sleep?

588
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Speaker 2: Right, Like, how do you sleep at night?

589
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Speaker 1: Because that's where I think she really had convinced herself that.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's audacity, and it's just it's narcissism at

591
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: the same time that's crazy. I think it's like one

592
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Speaker 2: month was twenty thousand dollars for one month?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the total is like nothing to do what two

594
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand, I'm like, that's several people's salaries,

595
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Speaker 3: several salaries that probably you could get.

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Speaker 4: Maybe even hold on, I'm bad at math.

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Speaker 2: That's insane, and it would be like clothing. It's like

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Speaker 2: food fifty two. I'm assuming it's like a food magazine

599
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Speaker 2: or like a I.

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Speaker 1: Hadn't heard of it until this moment. So yeah, for

601
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Speaker 1: free press for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I used to. I sometimes I follow them

603
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Speaker 3: on Instagram. I see the website. I'm like, oh, that's

604
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Speaker 3: a cute recipe. That's a good They also do like

605
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: a lot of affiliate links that sort of thing. But

606
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Speaker 3: to be still into and like, I don't know how

607
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Speaker 3: much the writers are paid, but that's like that's a

608
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Speaker 3: salary of probably three riders right there that you spent

609
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Speaker 3: on personal training sessions.

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Speaker 2: I'm also surprised, like for a media company, how did

611
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Speaker 2: she get so far?

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Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, that's egregious. There was some suckery happening

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Speaker 1: in HR. Nobody was checking those expenses.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, who signed off of those expense reports?

615
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Speaker 3: Because I know over here they're like, hey, you went

616
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Speaker 3: two dollars over that per diem. You're not getting that

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Speaker 3: two dollars back. And it's like that's fair. I'm not

618
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Speaker 3: getting that two dollars back. I I those French fries

619
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Speaker 3: probably didn't need them. That's okay, I can pay them

620
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Speaker 3: my own French fries.

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Speaker 1: I will say, going to nabj on my own dime

622
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Speaker 1: as a business owner was weird. I'd be like, is

623
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Speaker 1: this a business expense? I don't know, boss, what do

624
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Speaker 1: you think that seems right? I kind of feel like

625
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Speaker 1: we need this twenty dollars cocktail right now? Yeah, sure,

626
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Speaker 1: this is an event. Nicle Gon of Jones's right there,

627
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Speaker 1: and this is best.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just kind of leave it up to

630
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Speaker 1: my accountant to then tell me whether or not.

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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure it thinks that's a boss lady

632
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Speaker 3: move though, to be like, you know what, I'm gonna

633
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Speaker 3: let the account and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: That is, I have to because I'm too afraid like this,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, ev that guilty conscience, like I there,

636
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Speaker 1: and I have been I have been fully independent for

637
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Speaker 1: like how many going on for no a little over

638
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Speaker 1: four years now. I'm still so stressed every quarter. I'm

639
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: not even going to sugarcoat it. It is the worst part

640
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: of being a business owner is these taxes. And having

641
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: to figure out do I owe anything for the quarter,

642
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: and then you have to like precalculate how much you owe,

643
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: and it's nearly impossible to predict because, especially if you're

644
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: an influencer, shit can be up down sideways. You know,

645
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: you think one thing is coming, it doesn't come till

646
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: the next quarter, et cetera. And it's so stressful. I

647
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Speaker 1: cannot even tell you. We're still working on taxes from

648
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four right now. Oh my gosh, hey yeah,

649
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: so yeay. Taxes and healthcare those are the business. Taxes

650
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: and healthcare are the two things where I'm like, I

651
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: like nine to five, and I encourage y'all, I'm not trying.

652
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Do not listen to like, don't expect me to sugarcoat

653
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: none of their shit, none of it. I do get

654
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: my health insurance from my husband, and if I did not,

655
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: I would simply perish because I'd simply be working nine

656
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: to five. And I would you know, I would be

657
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: probably be working nine to five if I'm dead, if

658
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm dead ass about it, I'd probably be working nine

659
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: to five if I hadn't had kids at the same

660
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: time as the opportunity to work for myself presented itself.

661
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: It just made it that extra bit worth it to take.

662
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: The punge, being able to make your own schedule workaround things.

663
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean other than that, like nine to

664
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Speaker 1: five Sweet four when Kate Natchez come on now, company

665
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: credit cards, just don't abuse.

666
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Them like that lady, not like that, not like her.

667
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: I honestly, when you said account the accounting stuff I'm

668
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: thinking of, like just putting the thought of, like going

669
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: through expense reporting would literally turn me off to using

670
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: my corporate card. I can't even imagine. I can't imagine

671
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: like doing accounting on a quarterly basis for I mean,

672
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: my own business. And then on top of that, for

673
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: this lady just kind of going through by herself, just

674
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: putting her shopping net porter on, but like nice shopping.

675
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: She wasn't going to like h and M. She wasn't

676
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: even doing made will.

677
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: She's like I need to design her, like girl, what

678
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: the botox?

679
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: Not boatogs? Oh my?

680
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: And then sending people like messages me like should I

681
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: do it? Should I not do it? Like should I

682
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: get this or should I get this Scucci bag or not?

683
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: I can't remember?

684
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: And a paper trayal girl, she wanted to get hot.

685
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: That's what that tells me.

686
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: And they'd be probably asking her for a raise, like well,

687
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: you you know, can I get a ten percent? And

688
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: she'd be like, M sorry, I just can't for this year.

689
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's gonna be a morale killer.

690
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Man.

691
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if people are gonna quit after this.

692
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: Oh once they get that money back, I'd be like,

693
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: so we like.

694
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Get it back. I don't know in that kind of situation,

695
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: do they get it? Does she Maybe she'll have to

696
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: like sell her if she has a house or something,

697
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: sell it.

698
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, But that's three ninety k salaries, which isn't bad

699
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: if you.

700
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Speaker 4: Live in not New York.

701
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, they better get that back.

702
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: If you take that and live in Kansas City, you'd

703
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: be living pretty well.

704
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: Hey, ba fam, we got to take a quick break,

705
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: pay some bills, and we'll be right back. All right,

706
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: ba fam, We're back. Oh man. Oh I totally skipped

707
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: over this, y'all Black Owned Business Month. I wanted to

708
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: see since it is National Black Owned Business Month. I

709
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: know every month is Black Owned Business Month, but August

710
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: especially we love. Do y'all have any favorite black owned

711
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: businesses that you want to give a little shout out,

712
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: no pressure, but it's a fun little segment I started

713
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: doing last week.

714
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: Ooh, there are two that come to mind. One is

715
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: local Saint Vincent Wine in DC, lovely lovely, black owned

716
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: wine bar. Have been to birthday parties there, have had

717
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: dinner there, very cute, excellent wine selection. And then I'm

718
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: a candle girlie, and I really like the Harlem brand candles.

719
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: I really like those.

720
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh you spend like one hundred dollars on a candle,

721
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: don't you.

722
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: You know, everyone has their luxuries.

723
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to be in the house smelling

724
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: this expensive candle.

725
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh, and there's no tiny humans to knock it over.

726
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 4: So exactly, you boo, exactly.

727
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like, let me write, let me light this

728
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: fifty dollars candle, and uh have a glass of wine

729
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: and read this books, play some jazz, set the mood

730
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: for myself.

731
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: Jq' is giving the the TikTok games, like we live

732
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: a totally different life.

733
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: I don't have kids understand that, no, but that really is?

734
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: That? Really?

735
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: Is it? It really is.

736
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I show you that the nice things that I have

737
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: left are on the very top of my bookcases around

738
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: me because that is just where they've found. I'm like, oh,

739
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: my coasters one day, I know, it's like marble coasters.

740
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: It's like nothing but sharp corners in my room in

741
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: my apartment.

742
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, kids have not been here. Same. I

743
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: also have two.

744
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: I have the local coffee shop that I honestly feel

745
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: like because we're remote. So that's kind of like by

746
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to go into the office today and I'll

747
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: walk to a milk and poll and bedstack. Love that place,

748
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: great coffee, good vibe as well. They have like an

749
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: outdoor area that's always open, So highly recommend.

750
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Speaker 4: The second one.

751
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: So it's obviously summertime, so really not doing much makeup

752
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: or anything, but Eatam has this wonderful lip glass. I

753
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: think it's the lip softening balm.

754
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: I think it's called.

755
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: Still Eat Them E A D E M E A

756
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: DM Okay cool. What A link of the show notes.

757
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: For that it's two women.

758
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: One is of Asian descent I'm not sure from where,

759
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: but Asian descent, but also a woman who is black.

760
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: So they got together and open this beautiful, like environmentally

761
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: friendly and like very good product.

762
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: It's called Eat Them.

763
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: It's like a beauty brand, so that lip gloss highly recommend.

764
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: Mmm, I'll have to show that.

765
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: Well. I've got the lip bar on always. I love

766
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: my I love this sim lip yes And someone asked

767
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: the color this one? Damn it. I think this is

768
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: called unimpressed. It's my pinkish nudish color. I'm a huge fan.

769
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: But today I also wanted to shout out TikTok's algorithm

770
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: finally got me to purchase something. I have resisted because

771
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: TikTok's kind of like a mall now very much so,

772
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: but I finally got this. I don't know if you

773
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: guys have seen the curl, the gel that everyone's been

774
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: it's like been viral on TikTok called mesh. Have you Well,

775
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: this is the results. I just did a wash and

776
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: go before we got on the air, and any any

777
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: results that do not look amazing are just doubt due

778
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: to user error because I was rushing. But I do

779
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: a lot of washing gos and I love the I

780
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: love it's like very it's it's firm, but it like

781
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: you still have like a little bit of movement to

782
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: your hair. It's called meche and its texture is like

783
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: alo has alo in it actually I'm pretty sure and

784
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: like pineapple or something like that. But it smells so

785
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: good and I have been really I don't know the

786
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: gels that I have been using the ones that used

787
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: to work for me. I don't know what's going on.

788
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the weather, my hair texture has changed. But

789
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: I've been having lots of success with Mesh and they

790
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: are Mesh was founded by Michelle Ballard and her husband

791
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ballard, and they launched it in twenty sixteen for

792
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: all curl types.

793
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: I have to try all of this out. I have

794
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: some new products. I love trying a new product.

795
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: I really do.

796
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: Thank me too, I know you do you know? Okays

797
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: exactly I'm like, oh, I know. I'm like, this is

798
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: the same money that people go home and raise kids with.

799
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

800
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: I know, enjoy it, don't worry. There's stuff that you know,

801
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: you just spend money on other things like thirty dollars Legos,

802
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: and it's it also sparks joy, but in a different way. Yeah.

803
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: I always try to be like, you know what, I'm

804
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: just gonna enjoy each season. I'm in there's gonna be

805
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: a kids season one day, but for now, I'm like,

806
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: let me enjoy this one, so I don't miss this

807
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: one too bad.

808
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: Gotta you know you're always gonna yearn for something I

809
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: yearned for you.

810
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: If you forget, well, where are you on the whole?

811
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, j Q, you said you want babies, Evie,

812
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: what about you? Are you are? You's not even on

813
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: your radar yet?

814
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: I want babies, Yes, don't have any. I do have

815
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: a wonderful step son. He's twelve though, he's true so

816
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: he I mean, we have.

817
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: Sharp corners everywhere and oh yeah that's an age you

818
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: can put him to work.

819
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, he's just like I have my video games,

820
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: I have my basketball leot but yeah, not not there yet.

821
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm on Leney.

822
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: When you said one hundred dollars, can, I was like,

823
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: I could do.

824
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: I get Yeah, that's the best of both worlds because

825
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: you get like a little bit of like parent thing.

826
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: But like at the end of the day, I mean, Marquis, yeah,

827
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: what's your is it your mom's weekend.

828
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: He's a good kid, so most of the time he's

829
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: just like it's just fun to have him around and

830
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: it's kind of like also makes us excited to want

831
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: me to have kids and like, you know, see his progression.

832
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: Well, she's a newlywed, y'all.

833
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: It hasn't been a year yet.

834
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: Got the giggles a glow.

835
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's right. Yeah, it hasn't been a

836
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: year yet. But when when does one stop.

837
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: Being a newlywed?

838
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: Is it?

839
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: I think is that the ear mark? Okay? I mean I'm.

840
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: Almost I think it's up to you when you stop

841
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: being a newlywed. I think it's a state of mind. Okay,

842
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: And the longer you can feel that way, the better.

843
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Never listened, Never stop doing date nights. Listen to me

844
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: from the other side, don't stop doing dake nuts and yeah,

845
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: just put your put your relationship first, which is so

846
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: hard to do once you have kids. It's so freaking

847
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: hard because like with what energy, So me and my

848
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: husband are currently in like the phase of undoing the

849
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: damage of putting the kids in front of the relationship.

850
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I've talked to I've talked to Bafan about that. It's

851
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: not a fun place to be. I'll tell you that.

852
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: It's like, who are you again? Did I like you

853
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: one time?

854
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: Like?

855
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: What is going on?

856
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: We're actually about we're sending the kids to my mom's

857
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: for twelve days. I keep calling it two weeks, but

858
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: it's feeling too much. Twelve days. They're going to be

859
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis and we're calling it like marriage boot camp,

860
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: like marriage for suscitation kind of vibe, and it's I'm

861
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: actually looking I'm looking more forward to it now. I'm

862
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: very much looking forward to actually sleeping a decent amount

863
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: of time. But it's like now we are playing catch

864
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: up on putting the marriage and that relationship. It's doable.

865
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: It's just really freaking hard.

866
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all can like watch some R rated movies.

867
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna stay awake for that? I think

868
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: sleep is really like sleep. We really tried to watch

869
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: The Guilded Age last night. I'm so far behind. Y'all

870
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: watch The Gilded Age? No.

871
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: I watched the first season and literally every all of

872
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: my friends are like, did you see it?

873
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Speaker 4: Did you see it? Did you see it? And I'm like,

874
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I have to catch up.

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Speaker 1: By a girl TikTok, Black Girl, Threads, Black Girls Social

876
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: we are apparently all the girls are watching it. I'm

877
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Speaker 1: very but I'm like JQ, I'm a bit behind. I'm

878
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Speaker 1: still in season one.

879
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: I love binging a show. So I love having a

880
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: thing to binge.

881
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually love going back to shows like I

882
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Speaker 2: think I'm at the point where I'm re watching.

883
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: A different World.

884
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm rewatching New Girl, like those are the things that

885
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: I love to do.

886
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: But different World's a good one. I never really got

887
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Speaker 1: my a different world time.

888
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

889
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't make TV shows like Dust anymore. I

890
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: just it's like comfort to me, like I've always wanted

891
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: in a in future. Lize like, oh, can I be

892
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: Whitley Gilbert. My husband's like.

893
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Speaker 1: No, I have never met another woman who talks like

894
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Speaker 1: Whitley Gilbert. So I don't know, but you could try

895
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Speaker 1: your husband. That may end the newly wet phase. If

896
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Speaker 1: you start talking like that might do it.

897
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll have to add the Gilded Ages. Why

898
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: did you stop after season one? Or it's on season

899
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: like three or four.

900
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like I just never picked it up.

901
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I sometimes do that where it's like I'll enjoy a

902
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 3: thing and then I fall off and then I'm like, wait,

903
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: I really like this time to return to it.

904
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Speaker 4: Like I do that quite a bit. It drives like

905
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Speaker 4: people crazy.

906
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: I've done it even with like books before too, where

907
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, this is such a good book and

908
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: then life gets in the way and it's been a

909
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: year and I'm like, oh my god, I never finished

910
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: that book. Time to finish. It's like, it's actually, it's

911
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: very diabolical my ability to do that. I gotta say.

912
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: It's It's one of the things where it's like, are

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Speaker 3: you okay?

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Speaker 1: I get the libyalart. You know they only give you

915
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Speaker 1: seven days for an audiobook, and it's like the day

916
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Speaker 1: seven just goes so fast, and I'm like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't joying that for fifteen minutes and I just

918
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe next time. But guilded Age has this in

919
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: a show called It's Particular, and I have not watched more.

920
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: I've watched like episode three of four of season one,

921
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Speaker 1: So no spoilers here. Don't worry because I can't give

922
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: you any But they just had their season three finale

923
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: and the fun and I think black women are driving this.

924
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: I cannot prove it, but based on the level of intensity,

925
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a new thread category called they're calling it

926
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Speaker 1: dug Guild, which is where the girls get together we

927
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Speaker 1: talk about Gilded Age, But I think it's because they've

928
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: actually done a historical show. It takes place in nineteenth

929
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: century New York, so that when the huge you know,

930
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Speaker 1: the gajillionaires of the Upper East Side were you know,

931
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: fighting for power and for real estate and all this,

932
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: and it's all very in same dude, who did doubt

933
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Speaker 1: Nabby did this show, which is pretty apparent in the

934
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Speaker 1: first episode because it's like you get the you get

935
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: the taste of life above, you know, upstairs, and then

936
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Speaker 1: a taste of life downstairs in the servants quarters. But

937
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: they actually incorporate black stories. So we have Peggy Scott,

938
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: who's played by the beautiful Daney Benton. Is it Benton

939
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: or did just mess it up? She's a Broadway I

940
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: saw her years ago on Broadway. She's just beautiful and

941
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: very talented. But she plays a great character Scott Audre

942
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Speaker 1: McDonald in it. And because I'm so early, I don't

943
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: know who else is coming. I'm afraid to google it

944
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: because I do not want spoilers. But they've had, like

945
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: it's rare for a show to increase viewership three seasons in,

946
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, so the pen the penn ultimate episode before

947
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the before the finale, it brought four point six million views,

948
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: uh four point six million viewers in three days, and

949
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: it's the fourth week in a row that third season's

950
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: managed a new series high audience, it's drawing in new

951
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: viewers at a record pace, and that it's currently adding

952
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: viewers at a rate of nearly fifty percent higher than

953
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: previous seasons. Wow, so j pick it back.

954
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: I know I'm about okay.

955
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: Time for me to join that fifty Maybe make it

956
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Speaker 3: U fifty point one.

957
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: It's got beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns.

958
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: I love a good gown and you know Cynthia Nixon

959
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: and just like that is ending, so she'll still be

960
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: employed via by hbov.

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Speaker 1: I like her so much better and gilded age. I

962
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: don't get he's so dumb with Miranda. I can't stand

963
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: in just like that. It makes me Corrine, were you

964
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Speaker 1: an algt ahbat?

965
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: I dip in and out. I keep up with it

966
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: because things would happen.

967
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we doing anything? But watching it

968
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: is what we should be like.

969
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 4: I'm like cha, like, oh my gosh, all the choices,

970
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: all of the choices.

971
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Speaker 2: I have a thing with uh remake or like sees

972
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: it like those you know stopping something that is something

973
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: that clearly ended, and then I was like, oh, let's

974
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 2: just let's just continue it. It's like, leave it alone,

975
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: let it be, and let us just enjoy that this

976
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: was a great thing, that was what it was. We

977
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: don't need to do every do everything.

978
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I think about hitting that twenty year mark because now

979
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: we got Freaky or Friday.

980
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 4: Is h I'd go see that one though.

981
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: I would definitely watch it on Disney Plus when it's dreaming. Yeah.

982
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, So Gilded Age girls, if you're a fan,

983
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: let me know. Reminder, we're doing a BA Summer savings challenge.

984
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know about y'all, but I'm doing

985
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: the savings challenge for myself. It's more it's not a

986
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: summer savings challenge. Summer it's almost over. It's like a

987
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: savings challenge after summer because I was outside way too much,

988
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: or better yet, my children were outside way too much.

989
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Camp is really expensive. So we're doing a fun little

990
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: savings challenge. So stay tuned. We're going to talk more

991
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: about that on this Friday's episode during the Baqa Ba Fam.

992
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: For now, I'm gonna take a quick break and we'll

993
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: be right back with my co panelists for the day,

994
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Ev Saint Louis from Blavity and JQ Hill from Vox

995
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Stay Tube. Ba fam. All right, we are back for

996
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: my favorite segment of the show. This is Brown Boost

997
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: Brown Break. So just a quick reminder of the rules.

998
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: They're very easy. You're either gonna boost or break something.

999
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: So we're gonna boost something that we love that we

1000
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: want to shout out that we are happy about, or

1001
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: if you want to be you know, you want to

1002
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: bring the vibes down a little bit there, we offer

1003
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: space for that. We hold space for the vibes being

1004
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: held down. We can break something. So brown Break is

1005
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: something that you want to rant about, you're fed up by,

1006
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: you're sick of, whatever the case may be. I'm happy

1007
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: to volunteer to go first since it's my fault, you'll

1008
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: have to do this, and I want to do a

1009
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: brown Boost first for the Brown Ambition book club pick

1010
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: for August slash September. I'm so excited. If you were

1011
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: on our book club meeting from July, you already know this.

1012
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: But I have our new pick. Oh it's right here

1013
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: and it's behind me. I think, yes, I got two copies.

1014
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: This is the book. It is The Ghost of Gwendolen

1015
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: Montgomery by Clarence Haynes. One of my favorite things about

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00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: it is, look how skinny that is. We love a

1017
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: quick reader, we love a quick read for our busy lives.

1018
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: But no, this book is packed. I was actually shocked

1019
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: because I listened to it on audible and then the publisher,

1020
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: my publisher actually is the same publisher, Hashet was gracious

1021
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: enough to send me a few copies to give away

1022
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: to be a fam So the way that I'm going

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00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: to do that is the first couple of I think

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I have three copies. So the first three listeners who

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Speaker 1: email me Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com with

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00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know book club in the subject line and

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00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: your mailing address, I will mail you a copy of

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Speaker 1: the Ghost of Gwendolen Montgomery. But this novel is hot.

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00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: It is spooky, it's sexy. It literally is about ghosts.

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00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: It's also it has a really beautiful story about a

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00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: woman called Gwendolyn or is she we don't know? Is

1032
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: not really her name? We don't know, Gwendola Montgomery living

1033
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: in modern day New York City, and some very interesting

1034
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Speaker 1: paranormal activity starts to occur, and Gwendolen may have some

1035
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: powers that she does not that she has been trying

1036
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: to run away from. And maybe the maybe I should

1037
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: do book jacket, I should do book jacket. Teetherers, this

1038
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: is good. She may be the one with the day,

1039
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: but it's really really good. She's like a powerhouse pr executive.

1040
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: But what I love about it too is it's obviously

1041
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: a strong woman of color character with like all different

1042
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: facets and layers to her. She's stylish, she's smart, she's savvy.

1043
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: But it's also got a really interesting historical reference to

1044
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Afro Latino culture into this interesting. I don't want to

1045
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: call it an underworld, but maybe like a little known

1046
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: spiritual power spiritual world of Afro Latino culture. So I

1047
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: won't say much else because I don't want to get

1048
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: too much away. But this is our book pick. And

1049
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: Clarence Haynes, the author, is going to be on the

1050
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: show next week to tell y'all all about it. So

1051
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: have y'all read this?

1052
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to have to read I sell it

1053
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: book Club, Yes, like I need to do this often, Mandy,

1054
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Speaker 3: I love.

1055
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: Bos It is very sexy. Does someone have relations with

1056
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: it with the with the with the with the ghost.

1057
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe this wasn't what we all were expecting when

1058
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: I started the Brown and Vision book Club.

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00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Listen, I love. I love a romance element. I love

1060
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: I love an open door romance. I admit it. I

1061
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: love an open door romance novel.

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00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting, like there's also a great character who who's queer?

1063
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: And I love that too. So we kind of explore

1064
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: all these you know, they explore these little known voices,

1065
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: not little known, but should definitely be more prominent in storytelling.

1066
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Speaker 1: So Clarence Hans will be on the show. Check it

1067
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: out goes to Gwendall Montgomery and Quick Brown boost for this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna post a link in the show notes ba

1069
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Speaker 1: fam so you can get some joy too. But there

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Speaker 1: was this there's a school in Riverdale, Georgia called the ooh,

1071
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Speaker 1: what's it called? We pull it up the Charles are

1072
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Speaker 1: Drew High School. This is Riverdale, Georgia. One point six

1073
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Speaker 1: percent of teachers in America are black males. One point six.

1074
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Speaker 1: I mentioned mister Burton at my kid's school, the only one.

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Speaker 1: And what caught my attention was this viral TikTok that

1076
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Speaker 1: was going around it's like, every teacher in this school's

1077
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Speaker 1: hallway is this like beautiful black man. And I was like,

1078
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Speaker 1: where is this school? Of course it's in Georgia, Riverdale.

1079
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Speaker 1: Shouts out to Riverdale. I was born there actually, and

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00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: so shout out to Charles R. Drew High School into

1081
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Speaker 1: the teachers there, because clearly I'll have some magic going

1082
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: on and those students are so so lucky and all right,

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Speaker 1: that's my double Boost wants to go next.

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Speaker 3: Ooh okay, my boost in general. And Mandy like that

1085
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: was a perfect transition. Book clubs I am currently in two.

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00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: One is very small.

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00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 4: It's three friends.

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: We used to work together on some podcast stuff and

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00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: we were like, oh my gosh, we're friends.

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Speaker 4: We need something.

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00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: We want to get our reading goals up more, and

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: also we want an excuse to hang out with each other,

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: and so we started a book club. And then the

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00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 3: other my friend Asia has a book club and she

1095
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: just always reads great books, and so we were like,

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Speaker 3: you should start a book club.

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Speaker 4: And I think we're in the second year of it.

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Speaker 3: We meet on zoo. She picks a book once a month.

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00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 3: For that one, we read Mama Tina Knowles's memoir, which

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00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: was a fun little one, and then the other one,

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00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: which is sort of like a mini boost in this

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Speaker 3: boost for my other book club.

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Speaker 4: We read this.

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00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: It's this great book that I feel like no one

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00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: is talking about. Normally, I can go on Reddit and

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00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: be like, what are people saying about this book? No

1107
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: one is talking about this book on Reddit, so I

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00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 3: need more people to read it so I can read

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00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: what people are saying on Reddit about it.

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Speaker 4: But it's called The Bang Bang Sisters. It's by Rio Yours.

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: And it's essentially like it's imagine if it's like a

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00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: Quentin Tarantino movie put to book form. It's about these

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: three women who perform together in a rock band. One

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00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: of the main characters is a black woman. By day,

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00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: they travel around in this rock band, performing at small

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00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: to medium sized venues. By night, they are vigilantes and they.

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: Get involved in some stuff.

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00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: A thing goes awride, they have to get out of

1119
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: a real sticky situation. And that's all I will say.

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Speaker 3: But I tore through that book in days. It was

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: so good. The author novel oh yeah yeah, Like the

1122
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 3: author usually does graphic novels, but he just did a

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Speaker 3: book this time, and I felt like I was reading

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00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: a graphic novel.

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Speaker 4: The action was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: And it kept you entertained even though you're reading about

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00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: the action. Is it gory?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say too quent, Tarantino, I wouldn't say too

1130
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Speaker 1: Gory'll never forget it for scalping, Lucy Lou, Oh.

1131
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say. People get got, people do get

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: God in this book. So if you don't want to

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00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: read a book, will people get got, don't read it.

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00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: But some of the getting got is quite satisfying, so

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Speaker 3: I say give it a read.

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Speaker 2: I'm just imagining like like in the book being like

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00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: very gory, like very graphic and descriptive, and I'm like

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00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: when you said Quinn, oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more like it's more like action. I feel

1140
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Speaker 4: like I'm reading.

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00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: An action movie. Okay, Okay, gotcha. That sounds hella entertaining,

1142
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Speaker 1: I get. I wonder if the audiobook is.

1143
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 4: Good, Oh, the audiobooks probably.

1144
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I used to not like audiobooks for not because you

1145
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: never know who the reader is going to be. I

1146
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: still is like it's like touch or go, But then

1147
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: I kind of want to read this one. Okay, I'm

1148
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: adding it to my list. It's called The Bang.

1149
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Speaker 4: Bang Sisters, the Bang Bang Sisters.

1150
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: Okay. Also, you should get your book club to read

1151
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: it or you did read it, you just haven't found it.

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00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did read it talked about it yet. That's

1153
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: going to be this weekend. We're meeting in person.

1154
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: To talk about this book, so we can I squeeze

1155
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: it a bonus boost. I forgot to mention this. The

1156
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: National Association of Black Book Clubs just launched this summer,

1157
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: and I did not realize this that now it's called

1158
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: the NAB two. So we'll post a link in the

1159
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: show notes. But it's great because obviously black bookstores are

1160
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: so fundamental to the success of black authors in general.

1161
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 1: So we're going to post a link in the show

1162
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: notes BA and that just feels like they also are

1163
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: so important for like community and for giving people a

1164
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: space to gather and actually find kind of these books

1165
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, JQ, that maybe we're not reading

1166
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: because there's just so much noise out there and no

1167
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: one's like curating a select action of, you know, books

1168
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: that have voices like ours or people like us in them.

1169
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: All right, as evy, you.

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00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: Know what, I'm going to add two things. I had one,

1171
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: So first boost it kind of goes with the whole

1172
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: book club. I too, am part of a book club.

1173
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: We just finished reading Can't Get Enough obviously.

1174
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Okay, oh I saw your post about this. Actually that

1175
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: was so cute. Did you guys do power points?

1176
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: I know, so that's a good Actually, what I'm talking

1177
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: about is like back to you know, black women, we

1178
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: love community, and I think it's just it. I love

1179
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: the opportunity to just continue to foster community. So this

1180
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: whole book club was one way to do it. We

1181
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: got in person, my sister made slides, like she found

1182
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: some information and did some things online. Like we made

1183
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: appetizers that were related to the book.

1184
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: I won't say anything.

1185
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: We gave gave kind of like a goodie bag, like

1186
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: mini whiskey things, so if you've read the book.

1187
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: You get it so people can enjoy.

1188
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: But just kind of like fostering community and like actually

1189
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: texting your friend and mid let's get coffee, or like

1190
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: getting three girls together and just be like, let's I

1191
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: don't know, discuss whatever thing that we wanted to. We

1192
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: could do via text in like three days, but like

1193
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: we could do it over whine, like at somebody's apartment

1194
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: and just be fun.

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: So community. That was one thing.

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00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: The second thing is I've been doing these morning walks.

1197
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 4: So I'm on like.

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: Day I think I'm on day like fifteen now of

1199
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: like every morning I get up and I go for

1200
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: a walk rain or shine just in the morning for

1201
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: about like two miles, like I can either have a

1202
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: podcast or not.

1203
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: I kid you not, like I'm not even.

1204
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm not usually like into meditation or anything like that,

1205
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: but it has been like the highlight of my mornings

1206
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: that I'm like I get up and I'm like, oh,

1207
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: I put my weighted vest on and go for a

1208
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: morning walk or oh what.

1209
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Does the weighted vest to help you with? Like yeah,

1210
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: make it more exertiony or make it.

1211
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like especially sometimes if I if I just because

1212
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: like weight lifting, I mean it's not a ton of weight,

1213
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: but like women, you know, we want to be able

1214
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: to like you know, with stay like half healthy bones

1215
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: and like lift a little bit more. So just like

1216
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: walking with an added weight in my mind helps with that.

1217
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: And I just like take pictures of like all the

1218
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: nice plants and bedstick, like all the brown stones that

1219
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: are cute and you know, like nicely done and getting renovated.

1220
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: So That's kind of been my biggest thing, just like

1221
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: go outside and go for a walk.

1222
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: It means what time are you getting up? Are you

1223
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: early early?

1224
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: No? No? No.

1225
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: I usually get up around like between seven and seven thirty.

1226
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: Then I'll go for a walk immediately, like get dressed,

1227
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: just go for my walk, and then usually it takes

1228
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: me about an hour forty minutes to an hour because

1229
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: I'll do like two miles. I'll try to hit like

1230
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: a little over two miles, and then I come back

1231
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: and that's about it.

1232
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: That's nice.

1233
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not nice.

1234
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 4: You're doing it in the morning before it.

1235
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: Gets too hot, yes, like, and that's why I also

1236
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: don't want to, like it's like a non negotiable because

1237
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: then if I do it at lunch, I was like, oh,

1238
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: I'll just do it like you know, do like thirty

1239
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: minutes after lunch, and it's like you never get to

1240
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: it because oh, got to answer that email and gotta

1241
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: get to flag or like whatever, and then it's just.

1242
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 4: Not as hot. So that's it. That's my boost.

1243
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: It's simple. I love that, and we can you can

1244
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: do it. They had they now have walking meditations. I

1245
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: know Peloton has them. I really love a meditation for

1246
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: my anxiety, like meditation, and like walking without music is

1247
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of like a meditation for me too, Is you

1248
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of focus on your steps or

1249
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: without a podcast? Because I was in the same I

1250
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: was in a similar habit of like I would do

1251
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: something like physical, but I would be like I need

1252
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: to listen to something or you know, be catching up

1253
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: on the news or whatever. But like taking time to

1254
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: like count your breaths or count your steps, or count

1255
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: the number of bugs or you know, tree branches or whatever,

1256
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: it really helps.

1257
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: And also just like let your mind like wander, like

1258
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: just like daydream or morning dream or whatever. Just like

1259
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: let your mind wander. Like the other day I was thinking,

1260
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: I was like, huh, hydrangeens. I'm from Florida, And I

1261
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: was like I don't understand, Like why why didn't I

1262
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: like notice hydragens.

1263
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: When I was growing up?

1264
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: And then I went to like a whole round hold

1265
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: like are they not good?

1266
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: Where?

1267
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 4: Like how do you plant one? Like where do I

1268
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: get the seeds? Like is it seeds?

1269
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: Like I turned into EV's new podcast Hydrangeus.

1270
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: Basically, but it's it's like we're.

1271
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: Fresh like a little side quest for your brain.

1272
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. I love a little hot girl walk.

1273
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: I got to send y'all a picture of the baby

1274
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: watermelon I have started to that I've been growing. Oh yeah,

1275
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: she's a little plant girl air.

1276
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: I love that.

1277
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: Well, this has been such a lovely way to reset.

1278
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: I feel so much calmer, even though I kind of

1279
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: showed up frazzled because of school stuff. But thank y'all

1280
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: so much for sharing space and time with me today.

1281
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: I so so appreciate it. Will you please tell BA

1282
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: fam how they can support y'all what they should go.

1283
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: Click on sign up for subscribe to JQ. You want

1284
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: to go first.

1285
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, one way to help me out is to subscribe

1286
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: to my podcast.

1287
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 4: Explain it to me.

1288
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: Go to your podcast feed of choice and just type

1289
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: and explain it to me and hit that follow or

1290
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: subscribe button. And also, if you want to get your

1291
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: question answered by me, call one eight hundred six eight

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Speaker 1: Such a good show. What about you bev.

1295
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,640
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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,360
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Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 1: Start building that community now.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly, or even see start to see other people.

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Speaker 2: I feel like afrotech is always like a a reunion,

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Speaker 2: almost too, like a family reunion.

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Speaker 1: So just this is my first time last year, so

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Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, you know, sew some more seeds.

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Speaker 1: But it was such a good time. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just always nice to be with each other. But on

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Speaker 1: that scale, zam make NABJ look like a cute little cookout.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, take care ba Sam until Friday for

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Speaker 1: the ba QA. Have a great rest of your week. Bye,

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Speaker 1: okay va fam, Thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 1: this week's show. I want to shout out to our

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Speaker 1: production team, Courtney, our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for

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Speaker 1: idea to launch productions. I want to shout out my

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Speaker 1: assistant Lauda Escalante and Cameron McNair for helping me put

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Speaker 1: the show together. It is not a one person project,

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Speaker 1: as much as I have tried to make it so

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Speaker 1: these past ten years. I need help y'all, and thank goodness,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to put this team around me to

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Speaker 1: support me on this journey, and to y'all bea fam

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Speaker 1: I love you so so so so much. Please rate, review, subscribe,

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