Speaker 1: We got your back to back classics, because there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as too much of a good thing, right Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: no one's going to get a tattoo of that quote. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no about it too much? It sounds good when you
Speaker 1: hear it first. Yeah, well, we're only doing too let's
Speaker 1: not get crazy. Two back to back classics right now.
Speaker 1: And we always love to highlight our listeners because we
Speaker 1: just are so appreciative that you're here, honestly. Yeah, Brooke,
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Speaker 2: But that they're adopted, Yeah into that.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move forward quickly with your back to
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Speaker 3: On this show, we tend to focus a lot on
Speaker 3: what not to say during a first date. Oh yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: for example, you shouldn't say you know, you remind me
Speaker 3: of that super hot mannequin in j C. Pennies with
Speaker 3: the whitehead, and never say I don't like labels. That's
Speaker 3: why I removed them off of all my meds today.
Speaker 2: No, what I don't.
Speaker 3: But you know what we don't hear enough of is
Speaker 3: things that you should say during your first dates. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm excited for today's listener because he claims his
Speaker 3: date said one specific thing to their waiter that wasn't
Speaker 3: just a green flag. It made him instantly realize she
Speaker 3: was relationship material. Ladies, make sure you're taking notes when
Speaker 3: you hear it in a second date update coming up next.
Speaker 4: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning second date Update.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can tell right away if you're romantically compatible
Speaker 3: with a person just by how they order at a restaurant.
Speaker 1: So attractive Suddenly you're talking Jose's love language.
Speaker 3: I know Jose is like, for example, if you're at
Speaker 3: a fancy steakhouse and they say, yeah, I'll get a
Speaker 3: side of onion petals, no sauce, and a wedge salad
Speaker 3: as my mane, but with no bacon, no blue cheese.
Speaker 3: Can I sub the croutons? For keen waff Lakes instead.
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, can we go ring shopping right now?
Speaker 3: Because that's the high maintenance dream girl I've always needed
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want super hot, that's what you
Speaker 1: have to put up with. Yeah, well, they have to
Speaker 1: make sacrifice.
Speaker 2: They can have a couple bites exactly.
Speaker 3: That's how our listener Andy says he knew his date
Speaker 3: was just the right girl for him.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: Really, We'll learn more about it in a second. But first, Andy,
Speaker 3: you welcome to the show Man.
Speaker 6: How you doing, Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Man.
Speaker 1: God, any time we open these Andy talking about food,
Speaker 1: I'm immediately hungry. They absolutely want to know what was
Speaker 1: ordered and what restaurant, well, every food related item.
Speaker 3: We'll get to all that stuff in just a second. First,
Speaker 3: let's start with the name of this person, this girl
Speaker 3: you met. What's she all about?
Speaker 6: Well, her name is Carla, Okay, and she's awesome. But
Speaker 6: I've been recently even trying to kind of get out
Speaker 6: on dating seeing a little bit more, okay, because i
Speaker 6: was out of the market for a while and now
Speaker 6: I'm back in and trying to get the lay of
Speaker 6: the land. Okay, One thing that I've noticed is women
Speaker 6: these days, they're so particular on their meals. I'm a
Speaker 6: laid back kind of guy, and it's like it's super
Speaker 6: annoying when they're like hold this and not that, like
Speaker 6: just get some fish.
Speaker 2: Look, people do low car but it's like, hey, no, rise,
Speaker 2: I need ve Jesus at adjustment.
Speaker 1: Like people are just more food conscious.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're pretty tired of that. Did that
Speaker 3: happen on your date with Carla?
Speaker 6: That's the thing, not at all.
Speaker 1: That's all she had to do.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'll take the blank and you were like,
Speaker 2: I love you?
Speaker 1: Is that accurate?
Speaker 6: Yeah? What did go? She was a breath of fresh air,
Speaker 6: very easy going. We went to a Mexican restaurant and
Speaker 6: all she did was she just ordered the sahidas, just
Speaker 6: like the chicken.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the fahitas are the ones that you
Speaker 1: can put together yourself. You don't even have to ask
Speaker 1: them for substitution.
Speaker 2: You have to choose though, chicken or bee.
Speaker 1: So I mean already, like as soon as she orders,
Speaker 1: does your whole mood change?
Speaker 6: And I was like totally under her and I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: moving with me mouth.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, dude, did you tell her about your experiences
Speaker 1: and how refreshing it was to see her order like
Speaker 1: that after?
Speaker 6: Yes, I don't want to premptibly warn her so lest
Speaker 6: she gets all nervous when she's ordering her referr.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that sounds great. You got the green
Speaker 3: flag with the food order. Tell us what about anything
Speaker 3: else that stood out on the date with Carla?
Speaker 6: Oh? I mean she's cute, she has a great personality,
Speaker 6: and when she spoke about things, she would literally light up.
Speaker 6: Like one of the questions I asked her I was like,
Speaker 6: do you think your cat actually likes you? Or just
Speaker 6: putting up with you?
Speaker 3: I like that question on the date, what'd she say?
Speaker 6: She explained, like how they were like best friends. But
Speaker 6: it wasn't like in a corny way. It was in
Speaker 6: a very great energy kind of way. Just a pause.
Speaker 2: Asking someone about their pets is a good move always.
Speaker 3: Okay, that personally lost me for dating Carla, but I'm
Speaker 3: glad that you and her are on the same page.
Speaker 2: Hold on you on high maintenance and pets.
Speaker 3: Yes, very low negative energy.
Speaker 2: If you're just typed, ye will get zero.
Speaker 1: I think that what's sweet is that she lit up
Speaker 1: about her cat and you are literally lighting up talking
Speaker 1: about her, like sounds so excited.
Speaker 2: How'd you mess it up?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: What did you do?
Speaker 7: Out of the rest of the rest of them?
Speaker 6: It was great. We hung out way longer than we
Speaker 6: should have at the dinner table, and then we decided
Speaker 6: we didn't want the night to end, so we ended
Speaker 6: up kind of going back to my place. We opened
Speaker 6: up a bottle of wine and we talked some more.
Speaker 6: We we had more conversations, like one of them was
Speaker 6: like about, if you want to delete one app forever,
Speaker 6: what would it be. My answer was TikTok and she
Speaker 6: was like, no, I want to believe venmo so I'd
Speaker 6: never have to pay for anything again.
Speaker 1: Okay, and she's funny dude.
Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm coming back around on yeah, okay, So
Speaker 3: how did you and Carla leave it that night?
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't want the night to be over,
Speaker 6: but it was getting late and being respectful first date
Speaker 6: and everything, so I called her an uber and she
Speaker 6: went home and I haven't heard from her since. The
Speaker 6: weird thing though, is like I'll text her and she'll
Speaker 6: like my text, but she's not responding, Like are you yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you asking a question? Are you, just saying.
Speaker 6: Hi, no, also asking a question like i'd love to
Speaker 6: see you again, went and I'll take you out again.
Speaker 6: She's like putus on up, and it's like, okay, well
Speaker 6: I guess it's up as good, but I need an
Speaker 6: answer here.
Speaker 3: Unless it's not even her answering and her cat has
Speaker 3: the password to her phone, it is just getting in there,
Speaker 3: pawing around, liking your your text message.
Speaker 2: It's like, emphasize emphasis.
Speaker 3: You clearly had a strong connection the first time you
Speaker 3: hung out, so it's weird that nothing's happened.
Speaker 1: Since she's given like some positive vibes. It's not like she's.
Speaker 3: That's what scares me when we call and talk to her.
Speaker 3: We have to put up with those positive vibes and
Speaker 3: hopefully get an answer out of her when we come
Speaker 3: back and try and get you your second date update
Speaker 3: right after this.
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, I appreciate you, all, all right?
Speaker 4: Hold on man brooking Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Speaker 3: I only do this maybe a couple times a year
Speaker 3: that I'm highlighting this second date as one we have
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 1: This guy is so head over heels from her.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I'm actually compared to all the other calls that
Speaker 3: we've done this year. I'm actually going to put effort
Speaker 3: into this one for our listener.
Speaker 2: Andy, you're not putting an effort on.
Speaker 1: The your body leg doesn't say that any arms cross
Speaker 1: or sitting dock.
Speaker 3: This is my effort most because Andy, he's on the
Speaker 3: phone with us. Andy, you seem like a genuinely good guy.
Speaker 3: And the way that you described your date Carla to us,
Speaker 3: she seems like a really cool person too, because most
Speaker 3: guys that we have on here, they just describe how
Speaker 3: hot their dates bodies are and how they tricked them
Speaker 3: into spending the night. Recently, I mean, I told her.
Speaker 2: How much I could bench press. I don't know what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: And while we're all impressed by that stuff, for sure,
Speaker 3: you actually focused on Carla's personality and her words. So
Speaker 3: clearly this means a lot to you.
Speaker 6: Yes, that definitely doesn't. I appreciate the kind words, and
Speaker 6: I also I appreciate the effort as well.
Speaker 1: Okay from Jeffrey, Yeah, rare people get it. So you
Speaker 1: should count yourself lucky. What do you think is going on?
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's been so hard with her?
Speaker 6: No clue to Ganci, which is why I reached out
Speaker 6: to you. It's like it's we had a great conversation,
Speaker 6: had a great time at dinner, with a great time
Speaker 6: back in my house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mystery to all of us, and we're
Speaker 3: running out of time here, so we need to call her.
Speaker 3: I'm going to dial her number right now. Good luck
Speaker 3: to me. Here we go, good luck to me, good
Speaker 3: luck to it.
Speaker 8: Hello.
Speaker 3: Hey, is Carla there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: This is she?
Speaker 6: Who is this?
Speaker 3: Hey, Carla?
Speaker 1: Hi, Carla.
Speaker 3: Love your name. By the way, my name is Gross.
Speaker 3: It's jeff and I work on a radio show called
Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 1: Okay, she sounds like a real sailor, but it comes in.
Speaker 3: It is. And we're not trying to shock you too much.
Speaker 3: But we're calling as a favor to a really cool
Speaker 3: new friend of ours. We spoke to him on the phone,
Speaker 3: and you've met him before. He's a guy named Andy.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: Oh whoa interesting that was a negative? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe it didn't come out right. You remember Andy?
Speaker 6: Right again?
Speaker 8: What is this about? I'm just I don't know what
Speaker 8: this is all about.
Speaker 3: This is a segment we do called second Date Update.
Speaker 3: It's about your date and Andy according to him, said
Speaker 3: that when you guys hung out, it was a lot
Speaker 3: different than most of the other dates that he's gone
Speaker 3: on this year in a really good way. So we're
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out if there's a reason why
Speaker 3: there hasn't been a second meetup, because he's really hoping
Speaker 3: for one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like
Speaker 8: I probably didn't have gone to his apartment.
Speaker 1: Gone to his apartment.
Speaker 2: He said, you guys didn't fool around or anything.
Speaker 3: What was weird about his apartment?
Speaker 8: Okay, Well I'll just say this. There were a lot
Speaker 8: of framed photos.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's good. Usually usually bachelors can't figure out
Speaker 1: frames and picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bought with a frame.
Speaker 3: Like, why were framed photos a red flag to you?
Speaker 8: There there are framed photos of him of Andy.
Speaker 3: Wait, well, I would hope that they would be him
Speaker 3: in his own apartment.
Speaker 2: No, bro, I'm talking about my art, like him or
Speaker 2: him with people. Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 8: Just him, just him when he's graduating, when he's like
Speaker 8: heading a tiger. I think it was that's cool.
Speaker 3: Well, what's a red flag about that? To you?
Speaker 8: There were twenty of them him.
Speaker 3: That's a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: But listen, he's a solo guy. He lives by himself,
Speaker 1: and obviously maybe he just has him up because he
Speaker 1: wants to remind himself of all the cool places he's been.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I should put up some stuff.
Speaker 3: So Brookes, you you would see this and you would
Speaker 3: think this is normal.
Speaker 2: Twenty plus pictures twenty's a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know about normal. But I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it's like nefarious or means that he's
Speaker 1: a bad person.
Speaker 3: She doesn't say nefarious. She just said it's odd or
Speaker 3: it's weird.
Speaker 1: She used it as a red flag, and it's the
Speaker 1: reason that she's not calling him back. And I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's fair. That's all I'm saying. He's like
Speaker 1: cocky too, but I.
Speaker 5: Don't know that it is.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, were there any cocky pictures of him and
Speaker 3: made you think, Wow, this guy is a real chirt?
Speaker 6: Wrong?
Speaker 2: Jeff Well, I think.
Speaker 6: It's a.
Speaker 3: Word.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he had a photo of himself flexing.
Speaker 3: Did he have muscles?
Speaker 2: Did he have muscles?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Was it good?
Speaker 6: It was okay? At best?
Speaker 3: I mean okay, I mean we could go into detail
Speaker 3: and talk about what was inside of all of his photos.
Speaker 3: But I'm still trying to understand what the underlying problem is.
Speaker 1: You don't see it as a red flag.
Speaker 3: What is it. He's confident in himself and like, okay,
Speaker 3: self absorbed.
Speaker 1: Or you're worried that he doesn't have friends.
Speaker 8: I did feel like it was clear to me after
Speaker 8: being there for half an hour it would be difficult
Speaker 8: to date someone who's already in a committed relationship with himself.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. Maybe it's that motivational thing people do where
Speaker 1: you put a photo yourself as a kid in the mirror.
Speaker 1: He just has twenty of them. Well, he's talking to
Speaker 1: the graduate, just came across as such a good guy.
Speaker 1: I just's I felt.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Maybe we got a totally wrong
Speaker 3: read on him, and he's absolutely obsessed with himself because
Speaker 3: he is on the other line right now listening in
Speaker 3: on this conversation, which I guess.
Speaker 6: In a way is about oh, oh my god.
Speaker 3: And he does want to talk to you, Andy.
Speaker 6: Hi, Carla, how are you hi?
Speaker 8: And this is like embarrassing for you. I don't want
Speaker 8: to put you on blacks on the radio because I
Speaker 8: thought we had a.
Speaker 6: Great time and weren't necessarily responding back to me. And
Speaker 6: I didn't know you were gonna be kind of hanging
Speaker 6: on all the photos of like big moments in my
Speaker 6: life and stuff like that, and and you saw there everywhere.
Speaker 8: There's one in the bathroom, Like, whoa.
Speaker 7: It's weird.
Speaker 6: Look Okay, I'm sorry, I'm I don't have very good
Speaker 6: interior decoration skills. I guess you can say you mention
Speaker 6: it seem like I have a big crush on myself.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you could crush on yourself.
Speaker 2: Can we ask, bro, like when you were putting up
Speaker 2: all those pictures, why like why did you put those up?
Speaker 6: I don't know. If there're just big moments in my
Speaker 6: life that it's nice of when I'm walking around being
Speaker 6: reminded of them, Like you mentioned the tigers, Like that's
Speaker 6: a trip I took with my parents when I went
Speaker 6: to Africa, Or I do I do have a shirtless
Speaker 6: Jim selfie on my one?
Speaker 3: Is that the bathroom one? Because I would understand, Yeah, like.
Speaker 6: I mentioned before, I've been off the market for a while,
Speaker 6: I might have gained a lot of weight and so
Speaker 6: like this is a picture of like after I hit
Speaker 6: my goal rate type of thing.
Speaker 3: Carl, are you hearing him?
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this.
Speaker 8: I just feel like maybe he could have asked one
Speaker 8: of his friends and like, is this too many photos?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it didn't register with him at all.
Speaker 1: Like have you ever had anyone else comment about the
Speaker 1: excessive amount of photos? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I don't really. I don't have a lot of people
Speaker 6: come over to be honest with you, and then you
Speaker 6: think about decorating with sock target photos of like red
Speaker 6: succulent plants or whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's not hate on people that like to
Speaker 3: decorate from target because they have some good stuff.
Speaker 2: You should use a woman's touch. Maybe you two can
Speaker 2: help each other. I'm just an adjusted a little bit.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have a reasonable amount that he should have, Carla,
Speaker 1: is there a number and head that's okay? Of course?
Speaker 8: Like three macs?
Speaker 6: How the world? I choose just three for my moment.
Speaker 3: Actually, Andy, I have a good suggestion for you. They
Speaker 3: have these digital photo frames. Now we're all rotate through
Speaker 3: like five hundred and you don't have to limit it down.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm definitely open to some options here, but I
Speaker 6: mean some of them need to stay up here.
Speaker 1: He's taking this instride. Some people could have gotten really
Speaker 1: defensive about it.
Speaker 3: He went through all of this effort just to get
Speaker 3: in touch.
Speaker 1: With you, and look at what he could look like.
Speaker 1: I mean that gym picture she did say it was okay.
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's room for improvement, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, if you give me a second date
Speaker 6: that leads to the third, fourth, one hundred dates, then
Speaker 6: we can start hanging up pictures of us together, twenty.
Speaker 2: Pictures of you.
Speaker 3: Now that you know everything, Carlo, you've heard what he
Speaker 3: has to say, would you consider going out with him again?
Speaker 3: We would pay for it.
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like he was kind of in
Speaker 8: the dark about it. It's not like he's in love
Speaker 8: with himself, which I was really worried about. Yeah, would
Speaker 8: be interested. But he has to take down some of
Speaker 8: those photos if I'm going.
Speaker 1: Back, or at least turn them around so not all
Speaker 1: of him is looking at you at the same time.
Speaker 3: Okay, you guys can actually do that on your next date.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pick your top one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm totally down. We'll go out to dinner, then
Speaker 6: afterwards you can go back and have a redecoration party.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Andy, you got another meet up with Carla.
Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate your how.
Speaker 4: We set a goal to get them together and we
Speaker 4: did it, guys without even one picture of us.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, in front of us.
Speaker 3: That is our effort for the entire year. We can
Speaker 3: go back to not caring any can bail.
Speaker 2: It in.
Speaker 4: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: You know, today's second date was a good lesson for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to put effort into things.
Speaker 3: No, because I have lots of frame photos of myself
Speaker 3: up in my place. I believe my thing isn't in
Speaker 3: any of them capture other stuff.
Speaker 1: But I almost asked what was and that was No, you.
Speaker 3: Can't come over and check it out if you want.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I might get printed it like a public place.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, now I know I need to limit them down
Speaker 3: to just three. So that's good to know. But I
Speaker 3: do think Brooke actually said it best during the segment
Speaker 3: because he seems genuinely surprised that too many photos of
Speaker 3: himself could be something that derails a date.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but good for him, he was open minded, he
Speaker 3: was willing to change and adjust. That's literally the number
Speaker 3: one thing you can do to be in a successful relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so hard for people these days to
Speaker 1: here's something like maybe a somewhat critical about themselves and think, yeah, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well I can fix that. No, that's a great thing
Speaker 1: to think after that.
Speaker 3: They really were a great match. And I hope that
Speaker 3: we do get an update from them soon, and you
Speaker 3: could be the next couple that we get an update from.
Speaker 3: If you email the show, well call that person who's
Speaker 3: not calling you back and go check out all of
Speaker 3: our second dates wherever you get your podcasts. They're available
Speaker 3: at Brook and Jeffery free in the morning. There's no
Speaker 3: better feeling for a guy than having an amazing date
Speaker 3: with a beautiful woman, and at the end of the
Speaker 3: night hearing her say that she can't wait to see
Speaker 3: you again, even if it is Alexis and she just
Speaker 3: puked into your car center console.
Speaker 1: Ah, can't wait to see you again, and I put
Speaker 1: it in the console You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Still feels good. Well, one of our listeners knows that
Speaker 3: feeling because he was on cloud nine after his first
Speaker 3: rendezvous until he received a one word text message from
Speaker 3: that girl that was as cold and icy as it
Speaker 3: was just confusing. So now he needs our help in
Speaker 3: your second date update right after.
Speaker 4: This, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Update.
Speaker 3: You ever have a date with someone where you plan
Speaker 3: to do one thing together, but then the date night
Speaker 3: gets closer and suddenly you decide, eh, you know what,
Speaker 3: forget dinner, let's do paintball instead.
Speaker 1: Wright turn, you get.
Speaker 3: A little closer and plans change again, and then your
Speaker 3: plans change another time. I keep changing. Some people could
Speaker 3: see that and think, oh, this person is spontaneous and creative.
Speaker 1: Or just indecisive.
Speaker 3: Others might see it as chaotic and indecisive. Today, our
Speaker 3: listener James isn't sure where he falls because he says
Speaker 3: his plans kept changing, so didn't go out on two dates,
Speaker 3: didn't go out on one. He calls it one date
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Let's learn about it. James, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: You get it.
Speaker 1: There's a couple indecisive people, including myself on this show,
Speaker 1: so understand you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you indecisive? Do you keep changing plans? Or
Speaker 2: does this the world keep changing your plans?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: I mean you know life is life, and you.
Speaker 3: Know life is life, and well, I need to put
Speaker 3: that on a bumper stick by.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, but life was coming at you and you have
Speaker 3: to switch things up.
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I mean because after our first date, man,
Speaker 9: she texts me and says she had a great time.
Speaker 7: You want to do it again?
Speaker 6: Right? Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Who is she? We don't know who she is?
Speaker 9: Okay, her name is Lisa and absolutely gorgeous. She could
Speaker 9: be Zoli's on Donna's older sister.
Speaker 3: Whoa Yeah, wow, I don't know who that is, but
Speaker 3: the name is the blue girl from Avatar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't really see what she looks like in
Speaker 1: that anything like that then.
Speaker 7: I mean she's not smurf fat, but she's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's awesome, that's exciting. Where did you meet her?
Speaker 1: Did you say, I'm sorry, but we we met on
Speaker 1: a dating app? Okay?
Speaker 7: And so yeah, we have the same interest and stuff
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 9: I have, like my own company, I have to travel
Speaker 9: a lot, and I know with her with her job,
Speaker 9: she has to travel.
Speaker 1: So okay, that's always nice to find somebody who understands that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're both business right right, But I mean, like
Speaker 9: for three weeks, you know, we were just can we
Speaker 9: meet here and she's like, oh no, my schedule, I
Speaker 9: gotta go out of town. Okay, all right, first week
Speaker 9: out of town. Then the following week I had to
Speaker 9: go out of town. So one day I said, well, hey,
Speaker 9: well what about here, let's meet at this place? She said, well,
Speaker 9: you know, my girls were going to brunch a day.
Speaker 9: I said, well, hey, after your brunch, let's just hang
Speaker 9: out and just have some drinks or something more.
Speaker 1: Drinks, because brunch doesn't come without drinks.
Speaker 3: The fact that anybody could walk away from a brunch
Speaker 3: is that's just impressive in itself, right right, And I.
Speaker 9: Mean if we didn't go there, I mean it was
Speaker 9: a nice little place that was next door that we
Speaker 9: could have had our privacy.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's nice too, because like you're trying to
Speaker 1: accommodate her busy schedule, and I'm sure she appreciated that.
Speaker 3: Okay, So how did she respond to that idea?
Speaker 9: Well, see, that's what I'm gonna say, man. Her response
Speaker 9: was like, never mind, like what wait?
Speaker 1: And this is after you'd already gone on one good date.
Speaker 9: Right, We did on one good date, and I was
Speaker 9: trying to get a half date by.
Speaker 7: Going like after brunch.
Speaker 9: But again I know, three weeks had passed. I know,
Speaker 9: things happen and you get back into your routine. So
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, at least let me see you or something.
Speaker 9: You know, Let's let's just drive by each other and wave.
Speaker 7: But oh, like what happened?
Speaker 1: That is weird?
Speaker 2: Or maybe she does know like me and my friends
Speaker 2: get drinks, I don't want to meet up with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, planning stuff back to back can feel so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Did she plan anything else with you after that?
Speaker 7: She said never mind?
Speaker 9: And I mean even she could have said, well, could
Speaker 9: we meet before the brunch?
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's so early. I let's get a great pair.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So before we keep going, let's just rewind back for
Speaker 3: a second here, James, can we know a little bit
Speaker 3: about date number one? Oh that's a good point, Like
Speaker 3: where did you guys go? What was so great about it?
Speaker 3: Just give us a few details so that we know
Speaker 3: what it was like.
Speaker 9: So we went to this Italian restaurant, real nice during
Speaker 9: happy hour and had a great time salad, you know, Pops,
Speaker 9: and we're trying to watch those carbs and stuff, but you're.
Speaker 3: Salad, great time. Yeah, as much as much dressing as
Speaker 3: you want to go exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I never understand why people who were worried about carbs
Speaker 1: go to an Italian restaurant. That's all right, I mean,
Speaker 1: how was the conversation, the connection between you two?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was good. We had great conversation.
Speaker 9: We found out we liked certain things, you know, our
Speaker 9: spirit animal. I don't want to go into too much detail,
Speaker 9: but okay.
Speaker 7: Hey, I forgot to say, and she we did have
Speaker 7: a kiss.
Speaker 5: Oh you did.
Speaker 1: Okay, there was a kiss, right, you.
Speaker 7: Know at the end of the day.
Speaker 9: Nothing to elaborate, but just nice kiss is like cool.
Speaker 7: And then I get this text.
Speaker 9: She enjoyed it, she had a great time, and she said,
Speaker 9: let's do this again.
Speaker 1: So there was like no doubt in your mind that
Speaker 1: this was going somewhere exactly.
Speaker 9: I think like the scheduling thing, I understood, but I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't understand like why this was like never mind.
Speaker 3: And so there hasn't been There's never been a second
Speaker 3: meet up that's materialized out of all this.
Speaker 1: I would like for it, But NA, why'd we say
Speaker 1: there was one and a half then there was only
Speaker 1: one half?
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 3: Okay, well it did happen with her and her girlfriends.
Speaker 3: He just wasn't there.
Speaker 2: That doesn't count for you in a guy's world.
Speaker 1: That counts desperate man.
Speaker 3: Well that's where we're at, James, is terrible.
Speaker 2: Four dates last week. They all said no, but in.
Speaker 3: My mind we were parties. So James, we're going to
Speaker 3: reach out to Lisa for you. We'll see if she
Speaker 3: picks up, and then we'll try and get you your
Speaker 3: second date update right after this. Hold on.
Speaker 4: I think brook and Jeffrey in the morning second date updates.
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us for the second date update,
Speaker 3: our listener, James has spent the last three weeks arranging
Speaker 3: and rearranging plans, desperately trying to meet up with a
Speaker 3: woman named Lisa, who he already went out with once,
Speaker 3: and Brooks yawning about.
Speaker 1: The recap that my coffee just has it hit.
Speaker 3: Jess first date it was it was yes, according to her.
Speaker 1: Out on that stuff, nobody would have known.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking around the room now.
Speaker 2: Sixteen other people just yawned into.
Speaker 3: Ye, I'm just saying, according to James and to Lisa
Speaker 3: because she responded afterwards that it was great they had
Speaker 3: a good kiss, a top notch Caesar salad, everything you
Speaker 3: could ever want in a romantic first meet up. And now,
Speaker 3: after all that effort, the last thing that Lisa texted
Speaker 3: him was never mind. It's one of the top three
Speaker 3: worst things a woman can send to a guy. But James,
Speaker 3: we're gonna try and help you get this thing back
Speaker 3: on track.
Speaker 7: All right, it sounds great.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like I only say never mind
Speaker 1: when I'm mad.
Speaker 3: That's a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a mad response, for sure. Did
Speaker 1: have a period it at the end of never mind,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 3: End of conversation.
Speaker 2: Definitely, was it never mine? All right?
Speaker 3: Well, now I don't even know if she'll pick up,
Speaker 3: but seriously, let's see if she answers. I'm gonna dial
Speaker 3: her number right now. Hopefully we can get some answers
Speaker 3: out of her. But here we go. Hello, Hey is
Speaker 3: this Lisa. Yeah, we're we're a radio show called Brook
Speaker 3: and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, him asked, why are you calling me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're doing this segment it's called second Date Update,
Speaker 3: where we try to help out listeners who have gone
Speaker 3: out with somebody and they're having trouble arranging that second meetup.
Speaker 3: We try and help facility hate it or figure out
Speaker 3: if there's a reason why the other person doesn't want
Speaker 3: to see them again.
Speaker 2: And you can't say never mind. You have to participate.
Speaker 6: Okay, And you're calling.
Speaker 3: Me why because a little while ago, almost a month ago,
Speaker 3: you went out with one of our listeners named it
Speaker 3: long ago, he said, three weeks ago with a guy
Speaker 3: named James.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm not in contact with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he understands that we got that vibe.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it things shifted, though. Did it shift
Speaker 1: for you because at first he thought you were liking him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I mean the thing that's confusing to him is that
Speaker 3: after that first date, he said to you, guys even
Speaker 3: texted each other about having a great time, and you
Speaker 3: said you really wanted to meet up again?
Speaker 1: Or were you just pulling like a Lexus wood and
Speaker 1: just trying to be nice?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know, I mean honestly, I wouldn't have said it
Speaker 5: if I didn't mean it, but that was them.
Speaker 3: Okay, So something has changed?
Speaker 1: Yeah what happened?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 5: Okay, So, like I text him and I did tell
Speaker 5: him that I had a wonderful time, and we were
Speaker 5: trying to meet up to see each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so at that point you're excited about him, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean absolutely, But it went from let me
Speaker 5: buy you dinner, and then it went to let's get drinks,
Speaker 5: then let me buy you drinks after brunch with my friends.
Speaker 5: And I'm the type of woman where if a guy
Speaker 5: says he wants to buy.
Speaker 9: Me dinner, then I'm going to hold him to that.
Speaker 5: And you know, however, with jeans, our potential meetups became
Speaker 5: progressively worse.
Speaker 3: So you you felt like as the conversation went on,
Speaker 3: he was willing to put less effort into meeting up
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 5: Listen, when a man says that he wants to buy
Speaker 5: you dinner, then I expect him to buy me dinner,
Speaker 5: not say, okay, let me buy your dinner and dinner.
Speaker 5: Next thing is like, okay, you know what, you know what,
Speaker 5: let me get you drinks, you know what, you know what,
Speaker 5: Let's just meet up after you hang out with your
Speaker 5: friends and we'll just spend a little ten minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So it didn't make you feel special, But did you
Speaker 1: have time to get dinner? I thought you didn't have time.
Speaker 5: Well, there were times that I didn't have time, and
Speaker 5: there were times where he didn't have time. But you
Speaker 5: make time, plan it out and you make time. It's
Speaker 5: just not a drive by. Oh let me just see
Speaker 5: you real quick and keep going like I don't even
Speaker 5: know you like that.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because like I think he took it
Speaker 1: as he was putting an extra effort to try.
Speaker 5: To make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like shift around you and I know that you know,
Speaker 3: making time is very important. He's made time to be
Speaker 3: on the phone with you right now listening on the
Speaker 3: other line waiting to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Talk about effort.
Speaker 5: You didn't tell me that he was going to be on.
Speaker 6: A phone, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: Just now, I think this is a misunderstanding. Honestly, James
Speaker 3: talked to her.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I mean, Lisa, I'm not treating you as
Speaker 9: a drive by.
Speaker 7: I was trying to make time so I.
Speaker 9: Can at least see you and so we can have conversation.
Speaker 9: But that was the whole purpose of doing it. You
Speaker 9: can get to know me, James.
Speaker 5: You text me, let me buy you dinner, and having
Speaker 5: drinks after being with my girls is not buy any dinner.
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't realize I had to be a bread
Speaker 9: basket in order to hang out with.
Speaker 1: You that I don't even know what that means either.
Speaker 7: I don't mean that you go to dinner.
Speaker 9: They usually give you bread before you have your dinner
Speaker 9: to feed a meal to her.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that that's exactly what she's saying there.
Speaker 7: No, that's exactly what she's saying.
Speaker 9: Because if I'm giving an effort to meet you and
Speaker 9: you said you want to get dinner with it's two
Speaker 9: people at the same time.
Speaker 5: You know, God, wait, you suggest dinner after the brunch.
Speaker 5: You could have said we went, you can go to
Speaker 5: dinner after brunch. I mean, like, not directly after, but
Speaker 5: later on that same day.
Speaker 6: Clearly I had time to go to brunch.
Speaker 5: Then maybe later on that evening I would have had
Speaker 5: time for dinner. But you didn't think about that?
Speaker 7: Said maybe no neither neither did you think about that?
Speaker 7: And I didn't know you love language with food like that?
Speaker 7: How about that I didn't know you loved the.
Speaker 5: Time and consideration?
Speaker 10: Then either you are Yeah, I think I think, honestly
Speaker 10: everybody needs to just relax just a little bit, because
Speaker 10: this just sounds like a big communication misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: We're forgetting that they had a great first date. They
Speaker 3: both admitted it. That's true that the conversation was great
Speaker 3: and the chemistry was on and the only problem that
Speaker 3: has come up is communicating how and when to meet
Speaker 3: up the second time.
Speaker 1: So, James, I mean that would be like, do you
Speaker 1: not want to meet her for dinner?
Speaker 7: Like, isn't dinner at this point?
Speaker 9: I'd rather just send a door dash and she can
Speaker 9: have a full course meal.
Speaker 1: I think she just wants the energy, not someone to
Speaker 1: pay for her dinner. She just wants the thoughtfulness, is
Speaker 1: what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: Exactly, Lisa, this was thoughtful. When we first talked to James,
Speaker 3: he described you as Zoe Saldana's younger, hotter sister.
Speaker 7: No, I actually said the older.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to protect you here, James, So maybe
Speaker 3: he just go with what I said.
Speaker 9: He called me the older?
Speaker 3: How did the compliment backfire?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, how about this? How about this? Think
Speaker 1: of this, Lisa. He went out of his way to
Speaker 1: get a radio station to call you because he wanted
Speaker 1: to see you that much. That is effort.
Speaker 5: It sounds like he had you called me to embarrass me. No, No,
Speaker 5: it doesn't sound he was trying.
Speaker 6: To flatter me.
Speaker 3: No, it's the opposite. He wants to go out and
Speaker 3: actually spend time at a dinner with you, a dinner
Speaker 3: that we would pay for if you'll agree to meet
Speaker 3: up with him again.
Speaker 2: Well that was at the start.
Speaker 3: I don't know about Yeah, delete the last three weeks
Speaker 3: from your mind and just remember after that first date
Speaker 3: how good you felt about each other.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, no, because I feel like he's gonna he might
Speaker 5: stand me up.
Speaker 1: What why would he stand you?
Speaker 3: Us?
Speaker 6: Create?
Speaker 9: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, she's creating stuff now. Now
Speaker 9: she's going from a happy hour to a hostile hour,
Speaker 9: which is gonna probably lead to a hottle dinner.
Speaker 1: This is okay, hostile hour? Yeah, okay, so wait, does
Speaker 1: that mean that you're not interested in a date?
Speaker 3: He said? No? They what did I hear?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not interested in going on with that?
Speaker 9: Went back? Okay, okay, that's okay.
Speaker 7: The feeling is mutual.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, Well this one doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: They've shifted.
Speaker 3: Those shifted In Jesus words, life is life?
Speaker 6: Ye?
Speaker 3: Life? And right now? Am I right? James?
Speaker 7: Yeah? The thrill is gone.
Speaker 2: But the second dates or second date.
Speaker 3: They really are.
Speaker 4: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: You know, by the end of that call. I don't
Speaker 3: know if there was anything that we could have said
Speaker 3: to save that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of took over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dating is hard for both of them
Speaker 1: right now, and they just took it out on each other.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying about you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, ah, I hate it all. They're
Speaker 1: both too busy to sleep deprived. Maybe it's like.
Speaker 2: Well, I want more than thirty minutes. I want a
Speaker 2: full dinner. I just want to see you.
Speaker 3: Right. But on a positive note, James did give us
Speaker 3: three of our top quotes for the entire year. Happy
Speaker 3: Hour turned into Hostile Hour. Life keeps on life in
Speaker 3: movie and you want a bread basket with that wine
Speaker 3: that I don't think I I kind of workshopped it, James.
Speaker 3: I changed it a little bit, but.
Speaker 1: I mean I always want a bread basket, So is always.
Speaker 6: Going to be yes.
Speaker 3: The whole thing was promises made, promises not kept. Goodness
Speaker 3: is we don't make any promises. When you go listen
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