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Speaker 2: Hey, Hurdler's Emily A Badi here bringing you Episode one

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Speaker 1: maybe you didn't think you could before.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

440
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Speaker 2: I remember I sat down last year for the last

441
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Speaker 2: season of the podcast with Nina Williams, and we were

442
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: chatting about how when she got to be okay with falling,

443
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: that's when she got to be a better climber, Like

444
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: when she embraced the fall instead of being worried about

445
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Speaker 2: the fact that a fall might come in bouldering, that

446
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Speaker 2: that was when she was able to reach a higher potential.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I love yeah. And that's a perfect example

448
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Speaker 1: of what I'm talking about, Like, once you stop being

449
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Speaker 1: afraid of what might happen and of the outcomes, you

450
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: just sort of let it all happen as part of

451
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Speaker 1: this beautiful experience and a part of why we're doing it,

452
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Speaker 1: then it's just so much easier to focus on the

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Speaker 3: Five years ago.

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Speaker 2: We set this crazy goal to send what we did

502
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: last week. So in setting this goal, what are some

503
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: of the things that you need to do to prepare

504
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: in the weeks and months leading up to this particular

505
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Speaker 2: feat so to speak.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this goal has been pretty It's been pretty

507
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: tough for me mentally and physically because it's so complicated.

508
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: It's a type of goal that requires all the different

509
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: skill sets climbing in order to be successful, because you

510
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: have to be strong, you have to have bouldering power,

511
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: you have to have endurance, you have to have the

512
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: technical skill to climb on granite, which is super awkward

513
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: and weird. You also have to have the ability to

514
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: climb a lot of easier, more moderate terrain efficiently and

515
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: as a high level climber. A lot of us disregard

516
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: the importance of that. And then in addition, you have

517
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: to have the stamina to be climbing for close to

518
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: twenty four hours and not bonk and have to have

519
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: your nutrition right, and have to have your logistics right.

520
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: You also have to have a partner who's able to

521
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: do all those things with you. So it's taken me

522
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: years to kind of get to the point where I

523
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: feel like the pieces have all fallen into place and

524
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: where I've balanced all of the training out so that

525
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't have too much of one thing and not

526
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: enough of the other. So I've spent a lot of

527
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: time training in the climbing gam I've spent a lot

528
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: of time doing climbing so pacific training like fingers and

529
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: upper body strength and bouldering and stuff like that. But

530
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I also spent a lot of days in the mountain

531
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: trail running doing some easier, bigger routes, but trying to

532
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: move quickly. Also like analyzing my risk profile. Free climbing

533
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: el Cap in the day is not exactly a safe

534
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: way to climb because you do have to cut corners

535
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: in order to go faster. So I've learned a lot

536
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: through that experience. It's sort of like what risks I'm

537
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: willing to take, and what feels safe to me and

538
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: what doesn't feel safe to me. So it's really been

539
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: a lot of trial and error, and the past six

540
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: months I've been able to because of COVID and because

541
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: I was home so much, I just had so much

542
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: time to think a little bit more carefully about how

543
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to do things and how I wanted it

544
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Speaker 1: to go.

545
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: Wow, So a lot of planning, which makes sense because

546
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: this is just such like potentially risky and just such

547
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: an obscene challenge. You mentioned having to have like good

548
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: people with you, Like how do you even figure out

549
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: who this journey with you? I remember I listened to

550
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: a podcast that you were on. I think the podcast

551
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: came out on Monday, and at the time you were

552
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, maybe Alex Honold will come do this

553
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: with me, but you didn't know yet, Like how did

554
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: you even manage that?

555
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was a little bit nervous about that, actually,

556
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: because Alex has supported me the last three times, and

557
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: the last time I wound up in the hospital, and

558
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I was just worried that he would be like, oh

559
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't deal with it. I just can't

560
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: do it again, like I can't support you again. But

561
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: actually it was the other way around, and he thought

562
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: that I didn't want him to blame me because he

563
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: thought that I didn't think he was good at handling

564
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: my emotions. So we actually had like a chat about it,

565
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: and he was like, I'm happy to support you. I

566
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: just thought you retired me as your partner. So it

567
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: really is about like finding those people who are really

568
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: competent up there and those people who are really willing

569
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: to give you that support. And for me, I'm very lucky.

570
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: Alex is such a close friend of mine and I've

571
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: been fine with him so many years, and he is

572
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: just incredibly comfortable out there, and he's incredibly supportive and

573
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: happy to be up there, like for him it's like

574
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: his second home almost, and he's one of those people

575
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: that provides a calming presence because instead of al Cap

576
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: being this really intimidating, scary place, for him, it's it's

577
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: just a day out climbing and it's super casual. And

578
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: so for having him really helped me. It helped me

579
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: like lower the temperature in terms of like my nerves.

580
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: And then I did, in fact switch supporters two thirds

581
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: of the way up. When the climbing got slower and

582
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: harder and it was going to go into another night,

583
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: I swapped Alex out from my fiance Adrian, and he

584
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: belayed me to the top and he did get into

585
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: the like he was more supportive like during those emotional

586
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: like when it got hard, whereas Alex was more just

587
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: for the competency and the efficiency.

588
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: So the next thing that I want to talk about is,

589
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: obviously you're moving for a long time. I know that

590
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: you're also an endurance athlete. You're a fan of running,

591
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: and you do like their modalities and whatnot, So talk

592
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: to me about how you think like varying your training

593
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: also helped.

594
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 3: You for this.

595
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've run ultra marathons before. I'm

596
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: really into like endurance style sports, and I've climbed a

597
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: lot of mountains. I've spent a lot of I've done

598
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: a lot of like twenty four hour plus days in

599
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 1: the mountains, and I think that that's helped me a

600
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: lot in terms of just sort of knowing that, like

601
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: when you get to hour eighteen, like I've done this before,

602
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: I've gone another eight hours, Like I can totally do

603
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: that if I want to, and I can be prepared

604
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: for that. And so I think that actually was a

605
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: huge advantage for me, like that aspect of my climbing

606
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of years climbing at altitude, a

607
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: lot of years like trail running, you know, for long,

608
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: long period of time. And I think a lot of

609
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: rock climbers don't. They don't practice that that style of

610
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: stamina nearly as much as I do. And so Alex,

611
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: even Alex was like, if you go past fourteen hours

612
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: trying to fre flimbal cap in a day, You're probably

613
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: not going to succeed. I was just more like, no way, dude,

614
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: I could go twenty four hours. I definitely could, and

615
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to be ready to. And so when I

616
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: set off last week, I was fully ready to go

617
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: deep into the night and just stick with it.

618
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Speaker 2: What an amazing I'm just like sitting here nodding my

619
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: head thinking about what a badass you are. So the

620
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: next thing that I want to ask you about is

621
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: the fall, because holy shit. So the photos that are

622
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: just like circulating around of you post effort showcase a

623
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: beautiful dash that you have on your head. So talk

624
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: to me and tell the hurdlers about that moment where

625
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: you fell a little bit and what was going through

626
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: your head.

627
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I took a bad fall on one of

628
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: the harder pitches up higher. I didn't really anticipate it

629
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: to I didn't really anticipate that to happen. I thought

630
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: it would be just a normal safe fall like I've

631
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: taken thousands of times, and I kind of fell sideways.

632
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't really remember what happened, but I ended up

633
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of smacking my head pretty hard against the wall

634
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and I had this huge gash in my forehead and

635
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: head wounds bleed a lot, so that's why it was

636
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: like really dramatic, like all of a sudden, there was

637
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: just blood everywhere. I couldn't get to stop. It was

638
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: like dripping all over the places, dripping onto the ledge

639
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: below me. And I lowered down to the buoy and

640
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I was assessed for concussion and we stopped the bleeding,

641
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: and it was definitely a rock bottom moment where I

642
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, like I don't know if

643
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep climbing. This totally sucks. I had

644
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: a bad fall last year that where I wound up

645
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: in the hospital and I started just one of those

646
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: things where I was like, not again, I can't believe this.

647
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: But in the end we decided that I did not

648
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: have concussion. Symptoms, and we had stopped the bleeding, and

649
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: it was sort of one of those things where I

650
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: told myself like, Okay, you just have to try one

651
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: more time and then if you still can't do it,

652
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: then you can, then you can quit, then you can stop.

653
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Like part of me really did want to stop. I

654
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: was pretty emotionally drained and I was pretty scared, but

655
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: I gave it that one more try and I just

656
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: had one of those out of body like flow state

657
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: experiences where I'm just sort of blowing up the wall.

658
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm not really aware of what was going on, and

659
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: I had succeeded in climb that climb that pitch clean

660
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: lane could continue.

661
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm in awe of you.

662
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: So upon falling at this point, how much longer did

663
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: you have on the wall?

664
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: Not very far distance wise, like a couple hundred feet,

665
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: But I still had one really hard pitch, the pitch

666
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: that I had failed on last year, and then a

667
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: few more like not hard, but like pretty scary, dangerous pitches.

668
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: It's probably took me another four to six hours from there.

669
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: Wow, in that moment when you're you know, technically okay,

670
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: but not sure where you're at emotionally, like what is

671
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: the tipping point, Like what is it that you say

672
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: to yourself to get you to a place mentally where

673
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: you can keep going after something like that?

674
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for me, I just really had

675
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: to simplify it down into like just try once more,

676
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Like just go one move at a time, try once more,

677
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: see what happens. Like I abandoned all expectations. I abandoned

678
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: all like hope for success. It was just like only

679
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: about being in that moment and going one move at

680
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: a time, because it's all I could really emotionally handle.

681
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 2: I love that you just said the word expectations because

682
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: I think that expectations really kind of shape our reality

683
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: but also hold us back a lot or like kind of.

684
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: Augment what's going on.

685
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: So for you to say, like I let go of expectations,

686
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: sometimes that can be the biggest win, like the biggest

687
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: component to actually being able to find success or to

688
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: find some sort of homeostasis.

689
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Or happiness without you know, letting yourself down.

690
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it goes back to the whole like

691
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: accepting fear idea. But that said, I think letting go

692
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: of expectations when you want something so badly is really hard.

693
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: I think it's a hard thing to just do on

694
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: the spot or on demand, and so a lot of

695
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: times you have to go through something hard, like an

696
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: injury or some sort of setback in order to let

697
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: go of the expectations. At least that's what it takes

698
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: for me. It's almost like I have to hit rock

699
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: bottom before I can let go of all of that

700
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: junk and then really focus on what I'm meant to

701
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: be doing. I haven't really unlocked the key to let

702
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: going of all expectations all the time.

703
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

704
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone can completely, especially like you said,

705
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: like when you care about something, it's hard not to

706
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: have hopes or expectations of like what could happen.

707
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like you have to trick yourself.

708
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, and that's what sports psychologists are are.

709
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: So have you worked with a sports psychologists in the past.

710
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do work with one, actually, and she's been

711
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: enormously helpful for me in the last year.

712
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: For someone who's never spoken with one, What would you

713
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: say has been one of the biggest unlocks through your

714
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: time working with a sports psychologist.

715
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of what I'm saying

716
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: about accepting fears and embracing the things that you're feeling

717
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: and letting them exist alongside of you is really one

718
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: of the most valuable things I've learned, like that everything

719
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you're feeling is okay, that everything you're feeling is valid,

720
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: and sort of trying to get rid of like the

721
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: judgment of myself and the feeling of like, oh, I

722
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: should be doing this, I shouldn't be feeling this, I

723
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: should be feeling that. Like a lot of that is

724
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: just like really messy and gets in the way, and

725
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: so just sort of I think it's what's helped me

726
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: a lot is like just acceptance of who I am

727
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and acceptance of how I'm feeling, and acceptance of the

728
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: fact that my way is the right way because mine,

729
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: and moving through that and being able to move through

730
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: that with all the like sticky, messy emotions attached to it,

731
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: instead of trying to get rid of them, instead of

732
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: trying to beat them, which I think is a pretty

733
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: counterproductive process at this point.

734
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: I love that what you said about because it's mine,

735
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: Like you're entitled to do things your own way. You're

736
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: entitled to feel how you feel because it's part of

737
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: who it is that you.

738
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Are exactly Yeah, exactly.

739
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: How so then get me to the top with you here,

740
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't I can't even imagine how that felt.

741
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I got to the top at like ten

742
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: thirty at night, and it was this experience that I

743
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: had always dreamed about and fantasized about and thought like, oh,

744
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: what's it going to be? Like, how's it going to feel?

745
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: Who am I going to see? All that? And you know,

746
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: it was really simple and it was really surreal. It

747
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: was I was really tired, and it was just for

748
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: quiet night and the stars were out and there's no

749
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: wind and there's just me and a couple of friends,

750
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that it was really special

751
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: and meaningful, because in climbing a lot of times was

752
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: great achievements aren't they're not celebrated by an audience. They're

753
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: not in stadium, there's no live streaming or anything like that.

754
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: And it just felt really intimate and it felt really

755
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: special and magical and like nobody knew yet and so

756
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: it was just one of those I don't know, it's

757
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: just one of those special moments that I'll always remember.

758
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: And I think I was still like it hadn't quite

759
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: sunk in yet. It was just really in the moment.

760
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: I think a lot of individuals, especially in twenty twenty.

761
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: On your note of I didn't have an audience, it

762
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: was something for me. Sometimes not having an audience can

763
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: prove to eventually be some sort of a challenge because

764
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: you're like, well, if no one's here to watch me

765
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: do this, or if no one saw me show up

766
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: to the starting line, then like I could just duck

767
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: out at any time. But it seems like for you,

768
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean, although it was technically an option, like ducking

769
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: out wasn't an option.

770
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, this is something I was pretty dedicated to,

771
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: and I think when I first started with the goal,

772
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really know if it was possible, and that's

773
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: sort of why I chose it. I didn't really have

774
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: the pressure of like, oh, I have to succeed, and

775
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: it was just sort of kind of fun to try,

776
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: and it was inspiring for me to try. And the

777
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: more I committed to it, the more I realized that

778
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: I was capable of doing it, and the more I

779
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: wanted it, And so I think in a way that

780
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't really going to stop until i'd either done

781
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: it or proved to myself that I'd given it as

782
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: much as I possibly could.

783
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: I like the idea of the more I committed to it,

784
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: the more that I understood that it was possible, Because

785
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: how many times, I mean in rock climbing, for you,

786
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: for me, like it within running, I do a lot

787
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: of that, Like there have been so many times where

788
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: I've thought to myself like there's no way I can

789
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: do that, Like that's not something that I can do.

790
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm not capable of this.

791
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: But then I either blased up or put myself out

792
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: there and tried, and those goals, those things that felt

793
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: at one time completely unobtainable, like you start to geek

794
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: out that you think like, holy shit, maybe I can

795
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: actually do this.

796
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I think that that's a really beautiful

797
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: process that really and I think it applies. It applies

798
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: to everything, not just rock climbing, not just sports, like everything,

799
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: everything that anyone strives towards. I think I think it's

800
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: really cool to aim high and then slowly chip away

801
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: at it and realize this is possible the aftermath.

802
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure, as you mentioned, you've been doing a lot

803
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: of interviews, been talking to a lot of people it's

804
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: probably been one hell of a whirlwind. Have you had

805
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: time to like reflect for yourself and how do you

806
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: reflect on an experience like that?

807
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to having that time to

808
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: reflect on it. I did a little bit, but then

809
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of just get bogged down and

810
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: in the retelling of the story, which is really cool,

811
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: and people are really really positive and they've been so

812
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: inspired by it, and that's been that's felt so nice.

813
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: But I'm looking for Actually, today is the last day

814
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: of like interviews and media and stuff, and I'm sort

815
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: of I actually just told my fiance I was like,

816
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow night, we're gonna like not have phones

817
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna like be in a moment, be

818
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: home and like have a real celebration because it's been

819
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: a total whirlwind and I haven't really had much time

820
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: to sit and reflect, which is okay with me. But

821
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm definitely ready for that time right now. I'm ready

822
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: for that like me time for sure for sure.

823
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the word inspire, So I've got to ask, then,

824
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: who is it that inspires you? As you are inspiring

825
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: so many people to conquer their fears and do.

826
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: It anyway, Yeah, So I think what's really cool about

827
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: this achievement actually is that the very first person to

828
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: freequimb el Cap in a day. I did it via

829
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: a route called Golden Gate, and I was the first

830
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: woman to do so. But the first person to do

831
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: it via any route was a woman and her name

832
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: is Lynn Hill, and she climbed something called the Nose

833
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: and she did it in nineteen ninety four. So I

834
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: was seven or eight years old at the time. And

835
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: so this achievement and that achievement at the time, it

836
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: was like unheard of, Like people were like, no way,

837
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: that's impossible, Like there's just no way. And so she

838
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: essentially pioneered this achievement. And there's not that many achievements

839
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: in sports that were first done and first like sort

840
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: of like groundbreaking achievements, Like it's a historic achievement in climbing,

841
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: and it's owned by a woman. And I started climbing

842
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: in Colorado and Lynn was living in Boulder at the time,

843
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and so I knew who she was and I knew

844
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: what she had done, and I always associated this achievement

845
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: with women, and I just think that that is so

846
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: cool and I find it to be so inspiring and

847
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm just so honored to have sort of like joined

848
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: this very small club group of women who have been

849
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: able to achieve this and just like contribute a little

850
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: bit to that inspiration.

851
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: What a dope club to be a part of.

852
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: If you have to think right now about let's say

853
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: the last five years of your career as a professional climber,

854
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: and you have to think back to some of the

855
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: best advice that you have received, what would you say

856
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: that would.

857
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Be Well, I came up with this mantra. Well, actually

858
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: me and my like sports psych collegist came up with

859
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: it last week, like before I climbed, And essentially it's

860
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: it's not original. It's this idea that comes from the military,

861
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: I think, and the saying is flow is smooth and

862
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: smooth as staff and so it's the idea of I

863
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: think it kind of encapsulates a lot of ideas, like

864
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: the idea to like flow down and be present and

865
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: really think and be deliberate about your actions and about

866
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: what you're doing. It kind of like drogs my focus

867
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: in a little bit, and when I was on the wall,

868
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: it really helped me just focus on like individual movements,

869
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: whether they were hard, whether they were easy. It was

870
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: just a very grounding phrase. I think for me. I

871
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of times we have a tendency to

872
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: think really far ahead and kind of like do the

873
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: domino thing when we're like worried. If one thing happens,

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Speaker 1: then another thing is going to happen, and anohing happens.

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00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: And I would just like, if I was getting that way,

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00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: I'd just say that to myself. Flow it's moving, smooth's fast,

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00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: and it just really it really helped center me and

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00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: it really helps helps me knock get overwhelmed. And I

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00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: think that I'm going to apply that to pretty much

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00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: everything I do, even if it's like in the kitchens,

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00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: the flow.

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00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: Is smooth in the kitchen. Yeah.

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00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: It reminds me of something that somebody said to me

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00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: before I ran. I want to say, the Chicago Marathon

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00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: last year, and it was come back to calm. Yes,

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00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: like every thing around you could be going to shit,

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00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: But if you have the power to come back to

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00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: calm and like take a deep breath, then you have

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00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: the power to take back control.

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00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that.

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00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: I like that.

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00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm sharing it with you, I'm sharing it with the hurdlers.

893
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: We can all come back to calm. So people come

894
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: to your Instagram, they see a climber, they've heard all

895
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: of the news, they see two hundred and seventy five

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00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: thousand followers. When you look in the mirror, what is

897
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: it that you see looking back at you?

898
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: I see a woman who has achieved her life dream

899
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: and is a little bit strazzled, a little bit confused

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00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: about what's next, but is completely accepting of that at

901
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: the moment.

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00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 3: At the moment.

903
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: So then at the moment, what else excites you Besides

904
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: the kicking back with Adrian this.

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00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Weekend, another thing that excites me is we are going

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00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: to go clar I mean we're going to go on

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00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: the road starting on Monday. We're going to go climb

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00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: some smaller cliffs. We're going to go support climbing outside

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00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas. And Adrian has a goal that he's

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00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: been working towards for a few months actually maybe a

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00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: year now, and so we're going to focus on his goal.

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00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: So it'll be kind of fun to sit back. I'm

913
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: still going to climb, but like take a back seat

914
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: and like focus on what like put the energy towards

915
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: him and his achievement and hopefully be a good supporter.

916
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: What a special relationship that the time you have.

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00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned choosing at one point between being a lawyer

918
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: and being a climber. Do you ever see yourself going

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00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: back and maybe becoming a lawyer.

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00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's always in the back of my head,

921
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: but I'm not right now. I'm pretty psyched on climbing.

922
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Speaker 3: Right now. It's a pretty good thing for me.

923
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm still not bored. So what I keep doing that

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00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: you have.

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00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: An opportunity right now to offer yourself a piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like the biggest hurdle that we've talked

927
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: about recently is that is that scary fall that you

928
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: had on l CAP. You have an opportunity to offer

929
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: yourself one piece of advice. Going through that hurdle right now,

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00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: what do you tell yourself?

931
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Speaker 1: I think I think it goes back to like slowing down.

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Speaker 1: Just really, I would I would actually just say breathe.

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00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. Just breathe. Stop, take a breath,

934
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Speaker 1: and then assess.

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00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: Stop, take a breath and assess. Thank you so much

936
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: for your time today. I am I can't even tell

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00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: you how much I appreciate it.

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00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. That was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Beyond how do the hurdlers keep up with you? How

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00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: do they follow you? Give me all of the details.

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00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my Instagram. I use my Instagram mainly for

942
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: social that's my main social media at Emily A. Harrington

943
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: and then Adrian and I have a YouTube channel that

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Speaker 1: we put out episodes every two weeks. It's called Dangerstick TV.

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00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: It's yeah, danger is my nick and Stick his nickname

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00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: it's f G I K. So Dangerous Stick TV is

947
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you can watch longer form episodes about

948
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: what we're up to. And we should have a Yosemite

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Speaker 1: one coming out very soon.

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Speaker 3: Is there going to be an episode based on the climb?

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00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is actually maybe two.

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00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm so amped, so amped.

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Speaker 2: I am at Emily Abadi at Hurdle Podcast another Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.