1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl goes missing 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and we learn the worst. We learned that she has 3 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: been held in captivity in a cage for over a year. 4 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. How did it happen? 5 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: How did a teen girl end up being held in 6 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: captivity for over a year, being denied food, being subjected 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: to water torture, and, in a stunning, stunning blow to 8 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wisselovsky, 9 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: is walking free. I want to introduce to you Helly, 10 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: the victim in this case, the teen girl mother Shawn 11 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: up Burns, and her father Anthony Burns. Tell me about 12 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: the moment you discover, Heley, your little girl is gone. 13 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: It was a Monday morning and I went in to 14 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: get her up for school, five or thirty in the morning, 15 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: so it was dark in the house, no one else 16 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: was awake. I immediately knew she was not in her 17 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: bad What did you do at that moment? I started 18 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: searching other places in the house that I thought she 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: might have moved to, like the couch. What was going 20 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: through your mind? What feelings were pulsing through your body? 21 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: She has to be here, somewhere. She has to be here, somewhere. 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: I just have to find her. That was the idea 23 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: that she had left, or that she wasn't here, never 24 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: even crossed my mind. And then after searching every square 25 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: into the house and establishing that she wasn't here, that's 26 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: when I woke my husband up and I came into 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: our bedroom and I said, Tony, Haley's not here to 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Burns, this is Haley's dad. Do you remember that 29 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: moment that Shanna comes out. I'm sure it's still dark, 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: probably getting now around six six fifteen. What happened in 31 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: your mind? What's your recollection? I? Um, you know, even 32 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: sitting here right now, I'm tearing up a little bit, Nancy, 33 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: because um, as a parent, you know, you know my 34 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: daughter never tried to run away before, or never been 35 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: lured away before. It's a better way to put it, um, 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, as soon as my wife, I'm so glad 37 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: you just said that. That's got to be clear. This 38 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: child did not run away. It is away. It is 39 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: she was lured by an online predator. She is a 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: child in the eyes of the law. What went through 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: your mind, Anthony. I ran out of bed and I 42 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: immediately went to her bedroom. I couldn't see her in there. 43 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I was just kind of waking up, and I went downstairs. 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: As I went down, there's a look at her front door, 45 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: and the front door was unlocked, and it was a 46 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: little bit left adrift. And at that point I knew 47 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: someone had left through the front door. Either someone had 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: come in the front door or someone had walked out 49 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: of the front door. I didn't know at that point. 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen 51 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: year old disappeared from her home back on May twenty third, 52 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Her family told us then she has Asperger 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: syndrome and left home without her medication. Last year, her 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: family told NBC Charlotte they tried to limit their daughter's 55 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: use of the computer after discovering she had been talking 56 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: to strangers online. According to The Observer, Burne's father said 57 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: she left a diary behind that detailed a plan to 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: run away with a thirty two year old man she 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: met online. Her family says she did not have a 60 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: cell phone, but still they believed she was able to 61 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: communicate with someone and left to meet that person. Do 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her 63 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: what to do, to dress differently, to act differently. Yes, 64 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: we know he was absolutely Yeah. The school gave her 65 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: a Chrome pad. She had an IEP, which is an 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: individualized education plan because she special needs. One of those 67 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised. And yet 68 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: she's still communicating with this grown man. She's printing out 69 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: pornographic images in the school library. Did this? They did 70 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: not monitor it like it should? How did this guy 71 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: find err In? Where? How my pro ana chap website? 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: It is a website for people that have anorexia, that 73 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: don't want to hide it, that don't want to go 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia 75 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: and are proud of it. Well, and if I could, 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic. 77 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: It was that she didn't know what was wrong with 78 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: her and was trying to find discover through her own 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: means and self diagnosed so that she could change all 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the bad things that kept happening to her. So she's 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: out in an anorexia support group trying to figure out 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: if maybe that has something to do with their problems, 83 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: and then she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties, 84 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: who has been in this chat room before and has 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: met other women, and has taken advantage of that relationship 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage 88 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: my daughter's case, but in several others. Here is Alisi 90 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Lato's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of abuse a charlatean 91 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: endured while being held captive in Georgia for more than 92 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: a year. The documents day that Michael Wislovsky can find 93 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: Haley Burns in an upstairs bedroom of Histolouth home, telling 94 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: her that she would be arrested if she left. Wislovsky 95 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen rold captive's life, 96 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: keeping a food journal detailing how many calories she'd eaten 97 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: each day, and withholding food from Haley if he thought 98 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: she'd eaten too many calories the day before. Doctors at 99 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: the Atlanta hospital who examined Haley after she was rescued 100 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: determined she was suffering from malnutrition, according to Warrens. Her 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds. 102 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of 103 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. This past weekend, the FBI responded to a 104 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: tip and tracked her to a home in Georgia. Our partner, 105 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: so tell me when you first got any inkling where 106 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: she was and when he first to her the name 107 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Michael Wylovsky Sea. It was on June twenty three, is 108 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: about eight forty seven at night. Tony and I had 109 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: just sat down to watch a movie, and we'd gotten Showmars, 110 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: which is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, and we're 111 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: just getting ready to eat, and I got a Facebook 112 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: message from a woman I did not know in Romania, 113 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and she said, are you the mother of Haley Burns. 114 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: And I responded back and I said yes, and she 115 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: said I'm in communication with her. She's safe and she 116 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: wants to come home, to which we had been informed 117 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: by the FBI to be very careful because people will 118 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: call you and say, I know where your kid is, 119 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but you have to give me money. Psychic people will 120 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: try to take advantage of you. So I was a 121 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: lot more skeptical, let's say, than Tony was. Tony was like, 122 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's her. They sent. She sent a 123 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: picture of Haley, and Tony was like, that's definitely her. 124 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: But I still needed more I needed. I said, ask 125 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Kyle something that only Haley would know. And I have 126 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: a dent in my head from when I was hit 127 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in the head of the hammer when I was a kid. 128 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Very few people know that. And Hailey said, tell my mom, 129 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: she has a big dent in her head from a hammer. 130 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: And that is when I knew immediately that is my daughter. 131 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: And we it was like an old fashioned game of 132 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: telephone because Haley is chatting on a chat room with 133 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: this woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on 134 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: a tablet with me face timing. I am on I 135 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: am communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his 136 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: phone with Pete, our FBI agent contact, who, by the way, 137 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: was at Disney with his family on vacation when all 138 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: of this happened, and he stepped up in the middle 139 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: of everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he 140 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: was so happy to do it, even though he was 141 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: on vacation with his family at Disney and then Pete 142 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: was on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: every question took five minutes to ask for them to 144 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: ask Pete, to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask 145 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: her to ask Hayley. So the process took a little 146 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: while longer than normal. But after about fifteen minutes, we 147 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: had established that it was Haley and we were then 148 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: just trying to establish where she was. But she did 149 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: not know where she was. She said, she said, I'm 150 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: in a brick, a two story brick building in Georgia, 151 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: and that's that's all we knew. Now everything's filtered through 152 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: the woman in Romania, so she's giving her more information 153 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: than she's giving us because she's just trying to be 154 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: quick about it. Oh, so we were I was asking, 155 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, is there are there planes that fly overhead? 156 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Is there do you hear trains near you? Is there 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: running water? Is there a local pizza place and he 158 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: orders pizza from that? Maybe there's a name on it. 159 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: And we were just frantically trying to figure out whatever 160 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: information we needed to find her, And ultimately it was 161 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: a picture she had taken a picture from her window 162 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: from where she was. It was a cross street and 163 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: I used that information to find her to Anthony Burns, 164 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Haley's dad. Do you remember that moment you got the 165 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: text or the email, Because when somebody says it was 166 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: this day to eight forty seven pm, that strikes me. 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: I've never had that type of specificity. When I was prosecuting, 168 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: people didn't know what day it was, what month that was. 169 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: But you guys remember the exact time you heard Haley 170 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: was alive. Well, we haven't discussed the three hundred and 171 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: ninety nine days prior to this one. But when when 172 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: you get any kind of an egg of anything that 173 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: can tell you what happened to the one that you love, 174 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: then you you know it's it's an amazing change, and 175 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: it's like a new energy kind of came through us 176 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: when we finally had a relevant lead. And I had 177 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: probably given Pete, our FBI agent, fifteen leads over the 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: last three hundred nine nine days, none of them relevant, 179 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and every time I would call them, I would say, Pete, 180 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't think this one's going to be a good one, 181 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: but we should it out anyway. And this time I said, Pete, 182 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: we know where she is. This is actually her. She's 183 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: in danger, but we know, we know where she is. 184 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: We need to act now, and he acted during those 185 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety nine days. Did you think she 186 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: was alive? Did you think she was dead? Did you 187 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: think she was being held captive had run away? What 188 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: was going through your mind during those three hundred and 189 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine days. I gotta tell you something. I just 190 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: had to go to La. I was working for Hallmark, 191 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: you know the Hallmark movies and mysteries, and they're like 192 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: a second family to me. But I've got to tell you. 193 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: I count the hours. I go, Okay, this is going 194 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: to be four days, and then I start back timing 195 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the hours because I'm so miserable away from the twins. 196 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: What was going through your mind for three hundred and 197 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: ninety nine days, Anthony, I am. I pretty much fell apart. 198 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: I would wake up in the mornings and it's crying. 199 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I would try to be quiet so that my wife 200 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't hear me, or crying the shower and cry on 201 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: the way to work. I went through a very deep depression, 202 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: but I tried to keep it together as best as 203 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I could because we needed to have something for her 204 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: to be able to come home too. So I went 205 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: through therapy, and I started working on myself. I didn't 206 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: blame the people around me. I started contacting involving the media. 207 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: One important thing, Nancy, that made this all the more 208 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: difficult for myself. About three days in Our trash day 209 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: is Wednesday. And this all happened on a Sunday night. 210 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: In the Monday morning. I woke up and late at 211 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: night on a Tuesday, and I realized that our trash 212 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: was going out the next day. And I looked over 213 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: at my wife and I said, the trash is going 214 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: out tomorrow. We should go and check it out. And 215 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: she said, there's nothing in there. You know, it's probably 216 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: not worth it. And I said, we should definitely do it. 217 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: So I went out in my boxers and I took 218 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: the trash can into our garage and I pulled out 219 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: all the bags and I found Hailey's trash bag that 220 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: she'd thrown away that weekend before she left. And in 221 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: the trash bag there were laws for interstate transport of 222 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: a minor across state lines, the ages of consent for 223 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: each state across the country. And I believe very strongly 224 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: that he had printed he had pointed her towards that 225 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: so that she would know what the penalties would be 226 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: if he was caught doing this, so he was he 227 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: was coaching her on how to leave without being monitored 228 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: or caught. And that's one of the reasons why for 229 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety nine days there were no leads 230 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: and there are no credible ones until this lead finally 231 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: came in. Seeing that, you know, I really believe that 232 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: was the Lord, because this is a funny story. I 233 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: had my grandmother's engagement ring, and that's what I wore 234 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 1: was my wedding band for a long time, and I 235 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: always kept it by the bad and sometimes when I 236 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: was pregnant, I couldn't make it fit on my fingers, 237 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: so I put it in tissue and stick at my 238 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: broad keep it with me at all times. Well, I 239 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: put it by the bed one night it was still 240 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: in the tissue. Went to our church in New York 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: and was sitting in the balcony, and all of a sudden, 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I had a thought. We had a friend staying with us. 243 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, Chris is going to throw away that tissue. 244 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: You better call him right now. I got up, I 245 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: walked out of church. I called our friend visiting Chris. 246 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Sure enough, he had thrown away the tissue. He went 247 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: down all the way down to where all the trash 248 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: is for the entire apartment building in New York. He 249 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: spotted our bag. He found our bag, He found the tissue, 250 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: and saved my grandmother's engagement ring. Okay, just like something 251 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: got you in the middle of the night and said 252 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: go get that trash. But finding that did it relieve 253 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: your anxiety? Did you feel Okay, she ran away, She's 254 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: not been kidnapped and dead, She's run away. No, or 255 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: or did it work the other way? It worked the 256 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: other way, because I mean it kind of confirmed. So 257 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean I I immediately went into kind of detective 258 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: mode because I knew that, you know, it wasn't just 259 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: about what the police did, It was about what anybody did. 260 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: And we were the closest ones and knew her routines 261 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: and everything the best. So I started searching through her room. 262 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: I started, you know, anywhere and everywhere I could find anything. 263 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: And I knew that that timing was important and that 264 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: we would only get one opportunity. And I guess I'd 265 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: seen movies where you know, the trash had been taken 266 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: and they just missed it, and it had that one 267 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: clue that it might have been the one to get 268 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: us there, But I think it made it harder because 269 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: at that point I truly knew an adult was involved 270 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: and that it was, And that makes it even scarier 271 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to me to know an adult is involved. She didn't 272 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: just run out on her own. Guys joining me, Seana 273 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and Anthony Burns along with Troy Slaton, California defense lawyer 274 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley detective as Stephen Lampley dot com, Ellen Kolorin 275 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. This guy, Michael Wislowski holds 276 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: little Halley in a cage, a cage for a year, 277 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: over a year, monitoring everything she ate, nownourishing her, forcing 278 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: her into six acts in exchange for food to Anthony Burns, 279 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: how did they find Wiselovsky? So when when the police 280 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: knocked on the door of the house after my daughter 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: essentially taking a picture out of the window to lead 282 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: them there, they they came knocked on the door. He 283 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: apparently had been downstairs drinking beer and playing video games 284 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: on his computer, and my daughter was on the second 285 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: story on a with a floor to ceiling gate, confining 286 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: her on the second story to get access to the downstairs. 287 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: And when they the police knock. He came and answered 288 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: the door, and they said who who are you? And 289 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: then they said are you here by yourself? And he 290 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: said no, I am here with my wife Alice. Oh 291 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: my stars, and so then I guess at that point 292 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: they said, well can we speak to Alice? And so 293 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: they went. He went to the gate and he unlocked 294 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: the gate and said get your get the fake ID 295 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: to my daughter and my daughter had a fake ID 296 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: that he'd given her that was of his ex wife 297 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: who who. She then took the ID downstairs. The police 298 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: then asked her who she was, and she used the 299 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: wrong name to the police, which immediately made the police 300 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: aware that there was something obviously wrong, and they already 301 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: knew something was wrong, but that just confirmed it. So 302 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: they separated Michael at that point took him outside. And 303 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: at that point my daughter then opened up and said, 304 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: my name is Haley Burns. I'm a missing person and 305 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I want to go home. And then what happened? And 306 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: if my mom and I want to go home? Yeah, 307 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: I missed my mom and I want to go dad. 308 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: It was it was definitely more yeah, you get that 309 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: in there, Shawna. I miss my mom and I want 310 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: to go home. Thank you for moms all over the country. 311 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: It was mom for sure. You know my husband all 312 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: the time says, look, I get it, you're the mom. 313 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be part of it. And there's 314 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: nothing nothing like being a mom. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 315 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: When did you learn they found her? At twelve forty 316 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: seven h that night, So at eight no, I'm sorry. 317 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: At twelve fifty four, eight forty seven, we got the 318 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: first message twelve fifty four, Pete says, she's safe. You 319 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: need to to Atlanta. We have her get to Atlanta 320 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: because we were in Charlotte and they were outside Atlanta 321 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: and that's where they took her, was to the police 322 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: department in Atlanta. So we then immediately got in the 323 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: van and drove to Atlanta and got there by two thirty. 324 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: It is a three and a half hour drive and 325 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: we spent the whole way. But we got to this 326 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: tiny little police station. It's a small town, so the 327 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: police stations aren't open all the time, and they had 328 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: to open this one up specifically, like a police officer 329 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: had to come in his pajamas with the keys to 330 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: open this police station for us. And when we went 331 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: in and saw her. She just ran up and hugged me, 332 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: like she melted into me. She hugged me so hard, 333 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and we were just overwhelmed with such sense of relief 334 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: and joy to have her back and to know that 335 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: she was safe. And what was amazing was while we 336 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: were there with her, all of these uniform police officers 337 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: just kept trickling in and trickling in, and by the 338 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: end of it, there was so many of them just 339 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: standing around, crying and just so happy to be a 340 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: part of having her come home to us. And it 341 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: was I can't even explain how amazing of a feeling 342 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: it was to hold her again and to know that 343 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: she was safe. Can you tell me what she endured 344 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Sean during that time? The way that she explained it 345 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: was he was not nice. He was not nice. That 346 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: is that is how she explained it to us. And 347 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: in the beginning we had very little time with her alone. 348 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: It was there was FBI, and there was police, and 349 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: there was like detectives, and then there was victim advoicates, 350 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: and then there was doctors and nurses, and it was 351 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: a long time before it was just me and her. 352 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I said, you know 353 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: what happened, And she said, Mom, he was not nice. 354 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: He was not nice at all. And we didn't really 355 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: learn what had happened to her from her. It took 356 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: her a very long time to be able to talk 357 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: to us about it. We learned from the doctors, from 358 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: the doctors in the hospital what had happened, and from 359 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: the police officers and from the evidence of the house. 360 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: But we know that he raped her. We know that 361 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: he tortured her, he starved her, he manipulated her, and 362 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: secluded her from everything that had anything to do with us. 363 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: There were Haley and I are very close, always have been, 364 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: and we have all of these things that we do together, 365 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: like one of them was that we used to love 366 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: to watch the TV show Bones, because I love Bones. 367 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: She was a foster kid who grew up and did 368 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: good things with her life, so I love that show. 369 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: And if he knew about something that reminded her of me, 370 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: he would not let her watch it. He would not 371 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: let her listen to it. He would not let her. 372 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: You can't do that because it'll make you think, your mom, 373 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: you can't do that, because let make you can do that. 374 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: She was never allowed to speak of us he would 375 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: beat her if she mentioned us. She mentioned that she 376 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: missed us, so secretly, when she missed me, she would 377 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: watch Bones because he didn't know that I liked Bones 378 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and that she liked Bones, And so when she missed me, 379 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: she would secretly watch episodes of Bones to remember that 380 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: there were people out there that loved her. Online dot 381 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, What have we learned from police that Haley, 382 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: this little team girl, endured at the hands of her kidnapper, Nancy. 383 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: What we have learned is that this sick predator took 384 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: advantage of the very thing that he had met this 385 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: team through, which was a possible eating disorder. And what 386 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: he did was he used food to control her. He 387 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: forced her to perform sexual acts. A team girl forced 388 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: or perform sexual acts so that she could eat. If 389 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: she went past a certain calorie amount on a certain day, 390 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: then she would be deprived of food the next day. 391 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: He held her captive. As we heard, she was so 392 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: confined for over a year that when she finally was 393 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: able to get some help, she didn't even know where 394 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: she was. Neighbor said that they didn't even realize some 395 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: of them, that there were anything anyone living in the 396 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: home because it was drawn so dark, so Detroy s Layton. 397 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: How do predators like Michael Wislowski go under the radar 398 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: for so long? Nancy? A predator like this is so 399 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: conniving and is so smart and take such pains to 400 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: conceal their illegal activity that a person in a normal 401 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: neighborhood may not even know that something like this is 402 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: going on next door to them. And he was able to, 403 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: in a sense use the laws of the state of 404 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Georgia to to inure to his benefit. What we know 405 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: now is Michael Wislovski, a thirty three year old man, 406 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: please guilty to first agree cruelty to a child and 407 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: interference interstate with custody. He gets ten years sentence, but 408 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: is now out on straight probation. He has walked free 409 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: on straight probation. The ten years sentence is to be 410 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: served on probation. Take a listen to Lauren pose in 411 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: and action used to Atlanta Macaebokowski wanked in to court 412 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: next to his attorney Thursday afternoon to change his plea 413 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: to guilty. The judge accepted it and ruled Rokowski will 414 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: serve ten years on probation and also gave him credit 415 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: eight months for time served in confinement while he was 416 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: in jail, But before accepting the police, the court her 417 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: testimony from Hailey Burns and her parents. A second I 418 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: left my home, my life, says North Carolina teen says 419 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: she met him online and disappeared from her parents home 420 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: in Charlotte. She told the court she was held captive 421 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: in his Duluth home for an entire year. Burne says 422 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Rokowsky tortured her and made her do sexual things for food. 423 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Her father, Tony Burns, told the judge every time he 424 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: would hear of a dead body, he feared it was 425 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: his Haleypas teach their kids to be scared of. Haley's 426 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: mom added that Bolkowski doesn't seem sorry for his actions. 427 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: You want not a minister because you're a pitiful man 428 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: who remember that actions have consequences. Now, after the hearing, 429 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I spoke with the prosecutor. He told me Haley's family 430 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: they're satisfied with the outcome today in court, but they 431 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: really really would have preferred to see the defendant behind bars. 432 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: The ten years sentence is to be served on probation. Yes, 433 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: he's registered as a sex offender, but when has that 434 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: ever stopped a sex offender from re offending. Stephen Lampley 435 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Detective Stephen Lampley dot com. I learned quickly. I didn't 436 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: need to look at a statistic to learn it. I 437 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: found out that burglars, child molesters, and sex offenders can't stop. 438 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Oh one more peeping tom's. They can't stop. Now. I 439 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm not a shrink, but I can 440 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: tell you they don't stop. They don't stop until they're 441 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: six feet under. So this guy, Michael Wizawowski, thanks judge, 442 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: is going to reoffend. I just don't know how, when, 443 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: or where, but he is going to reoffend Nancy. That's 444 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: that's correct. I learned early on when we started this 445 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: new undercover division to work pedophiles. I learned early on 446 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: from some of the experts that you're correct. This this 447 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: is just my a a condition that can be rehabilitated. 448 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Once you're a pedophile. It doesn't go away. It's not 449 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: something they can be fixed. It's not something they can 450 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: be rehabilitated. It's not something that's going to stop. It's 451 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: going to kind of perpetuate and continuing answer crime stories 452 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: with me. It's a grace. I can take joy in 453 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: one thing, and that is that Haley Burns is alive 454 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: and well and reunited with her family. Seana, how is 455 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: she progressing now we've been in therapy. We're in therapy. 456 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: She has three different therapists who got to therapy every 457 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: single week, and it is three steps forward, two steps back, 458 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: five steps forward, four steps back, but there are a 459 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: lot of steps forward. She has good days and bad days. 460 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: And it's been very difficult with the trial because it's 461 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: hard to have any closure until after the trial, until 462 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: after the hearing, until after everything's done. Since the last 463 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: year and a half, we've just kind of been in 464 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: window waiting for this. But now that this is done, 465 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: we can have closure with it. We can move on 466 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: and we all aren't like a big weight has been 467 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: lifted off of our family. So we're all in a 468 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: better place as far as like handling this. Take a 469 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: listen to victim Haley Burns speaking in court. So a 470 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: much time I tried to write this, it sounded melodramatic, 471 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: so I decided to stick to the facts. When Michael 472 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Wislawski and I started corresponding, I was fifteen years old 473 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: about to term sixteen and vulnerable. I was physically unable 474 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: to process the gravity of our conversation, and he manipulated 475 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: me heavily, taking advantage of my mental illness to push 476 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: me closer to his desires. I backed up twice and 477 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: he bereaded me, pushing me to commit to him and 478 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: his idea of a life for me. The second I 479 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: left my home, my life was ruined. The first week 480 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: why Sulowski had me in his home, he did unimaginable 481 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: things to me and irreparably broke my spirit and sense 482 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: of self. This abuse proceeded for fifty six weeks. I 483 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: developed severe OCD about a month after why Slawski was 484 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: released on bond, an escalation from a previous minor disorder. 485 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: I checked blocks, successively, counted steps, tiles, items and numbers, 486 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: and classified everything and everyone I knew into safe and 487 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: unsafe classifications, hoping he would not hurt me again. It 488 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: took me over a year to partially recover from a 489 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: severe eating disorder. From severe eating disordered habits directly related 490 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: to his starving me and refusing me food, which went 491 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: hand in hand with my OCD. He lowered myself, esteemed greatly, 492 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: and led me to believe I would never be loved 493 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: or have a proper life if I gained any light. 494 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I developed problems with intimacy, rejection, and attachment which goes 495 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: without saying, but I still feel me too mentioned. I 496 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: also developed severe fears of water, such as showering, drinking, rain, 497 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: swimming due to water torture, and fears of sleeping due 498 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: to being in the same bed as him. I severely 499 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: mutilated myself comiga would become unlovable so no one would 500 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: hurt me again as why Solowski did. I am permanently disfigured. 501 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I also have suffered from deep depressions, lack of drive, 502 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: and an inability to motivate. I am now taking medication 503 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: to keep it in check, which for a long time 504 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I was also phobic of, directly related to his tendency 505 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: to drug me. I suicide thrice since I escaped by 506 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: Silowski and I'm unable to have normal relationships without fear. 507 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I am unable to navigate social situations due to how 508 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: he kept me from the outside the world and still 509 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: fear of human interaction sorry as an abuse tactic in 510 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: order to keep recomplacent to captivity. I cannot navigate retail 511 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: or even walk down the street alone without panic attacks. 512 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: This has inspired agoraphobia. Oh my stars, what that family 513 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: had to go through. This is what I know. According 514 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: to the FBI, an average child molester will offend two 515 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: to four hundred times before being caught. If ever, the 516 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: vast majority of offenders are never caught, so they have 517 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: no criminal record. And according to the FBI, only one 518 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: out of ten cases of child sex abuse is ever 519 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: reported to law enforcement. So for this one time he's caught, there, 520 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: according to statistics, have been other instances and will be 521 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: other instances. This guy is walking amongst us now, Seana 522 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: and Anthony. People don't get it. They don't get it, 523 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't either until I started studying it. The 524 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: lures online, the chat rooms. Who would have thought this 525 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: guy was targeting her at school when she's on her 526 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: school chrome book after you monitor everything, so cut and 527 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: what And he was smart enough to do it on 528 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: the school chromebook because we legally we could never have 529 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: access to those records because they have to protect the 530 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: confidentiality of the other children. So yes, they absolutely could 531 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: have used that and they could have scanned it and 532 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: they could have found him. But legally he knew it 533 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: because it was public property at the school. They would 534 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: the FBI would never even have the jurisdiction to do that. 535 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Can I just tell you that tonight, when the children 536 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: come home where the chromebooks from school? You know who's 537 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: going to go lock herself in the bathroom and read 538 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: every email that they've gotten. And that's thanks to Shauna 539 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: and Anthony Burns. Another thing I want to tell you, 540 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: and believe me, in the media circles, this is like 541 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: dropping a stink bomb in the room. Nobody wants to 542 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: hear about this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I 543 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: believe the Lord brought you back to your daughter, and 544 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: I believe the Lord has a plan for you and 545 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: for Helly and your children. And I also believe that 546 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: by you speaking out today, thousands and thousands of people 547 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: are going to hear your voice and maybe it will 548 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: make a difference in just one life. Anthony, what is 549 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: your message to other parents that are listening right now, 550 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: listening to us on Sirius, listening to us on Crime 551 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: Stories podcasts. What have you learned? What is your advice? 552 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: What is your message? Thank you very much, Nancy. You 553 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: know I had a great life. Up until this happened. 554 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: I thought things like this just don't happen. You know, 555 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you you live in a good neighborhood and you're doing 556 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: all the right stuff, and you just got to prune 557 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: your headges every every weekend. But the reality is everyone 558 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: is susceptible to this. It doesn't matter how careful you are, 559 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: how on top of things you are. If you're not 560 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: on top of things for one week and you allow 561 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: one of these guys to warm into your life and 562 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: separate you on any level from your child, then you 563 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: could be calling the media sitting there for three hundred 564 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: and ninety nine days not knowing whether your daughter was 565 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: alive or dead. And I don't want anyone else to 566 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: go through that. So take precautions. Know what your child 567 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: is doing, Communicate with them, keep a good relationship, even 568 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: if it's difficult and they not always are warm and 569 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: fuzzy to you. Don't stop trying to be an influence 570 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: on them and to use what you know to help 571 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: them be better. You know what, I'm going to play 572 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: back what you just said million times and listen to it, 573 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: because it is not always easy. Seana Burns, what is 574 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: your message today? To moms and dads hearing your voice. 575 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: My number one message would be that, like my husband said, 576 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: you need to love your children even when it gets difficult. 577 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: I have three kids that have special needs, and sometimes 578 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: I lose sight of the little kids that's in there 579 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: behind the bad behavior and behind the problems. You lose 580 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: sight of that little kid that still loves you and 581 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: still wants to connect with you. And that's the number 582 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: one thing is if you lose that, then they can 583 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: weasle their way in and then they can get in there. 584 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: So never ever ever let your kids distance themselves from you. 585 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: Stay as close to them as you possibly can, and 586 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: never ever ever let them feel that you don't love them. 587 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: No matter what they do, no matter what their behaviors are, 588 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: you always love them, You always support them, you always 589 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: have them. And if you're in a situation where your 590 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: child this missing, never give up. You keep looking for 591 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: your child. You search through every freeing Craig's lift back 592 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: page for months. If you have to define your kid, 593 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: you never stop looking. Ever, they could be out there 594 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: looking for you and needing you to find them. If 595 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: we had not found her, we don't. We don't even 596 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: the idea of what could have happened if that lady 597 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: had not messaged me, if that lady had not taken 598 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: Hamley seriously and that contacted me and thought, oh, this 599 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: is just a prank, She's not serious. If we there 600 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: was no one else that would have rescued her, There 601 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: was no one else that knew she was even there 602 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: to rescue her. Never give up ever, that would be 603 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: That would be it, you know, Nancy, One last thing, 604 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. In our family, we have a mantram. We 605 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: believe in the mantra that the hana means family, and 606 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: that means no one's left behind. And you know, when 607 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: we got my daughter back for her birthday, we had 608 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: blessing of being able to take her Disney and to 609 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: go and see all those things and have this bucket 610 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: list of memories that we've never had. And that's why 611 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: you never give up. Yep, no one gets left behind. Absolutely, 612 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: believe it or not, this girl had the courage to 613 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: speak out loud in court. Listen to Haley Burns. The 614 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: psychological damage Michael Westulowski has afflicted is beyond measure explanation. 615 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: I trynot explain over a year of systematic abuse and 616 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: every neurological quirk it has caused. All I hope is 617 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: that it happens to the other innocent days. Nancy Grace 618 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,