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Coming up on 22 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 6: the show, we hear from New York knick star Ford 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 6: Carl Anthony Towns about the next upcoming season and his 24 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 6: ventures off the court in business. Carl Anthony Towns joined 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 6: us here at World Headquarters from Bloomberg Power Players, New York. Recently, 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 6: we'll hear his conversation from on the stage with Bloomberg 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 6: US sports business reporter Ira Budway. We'll also talk a 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 6: little racing with four time Indie Car Series champion Alex Polo. 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 6: That is on the way on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 6: But first, we are now in Week two of the 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 6: NFL season, and we are still in the honeymoon stage 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 6: with a lot of teams with new regimes and new quarterbacks. 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 6: Vanessa and Bloomberg Original's chief correspondent Jason Kelly got a 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 6: chance to sit down with ESPN senior writer Seth Wickersham. 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 6: He's the author of the new book American King's Biography 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 6: of the Quarterback, a book on the mythology surrounding a 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 6: football team's most visible player from high school through the 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Let's take a listen to that conversation. 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: I've covered the NFL for twenty five years at ESPN, 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: and if you cover the NFL for ESPN, you cover quarterbacks. 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: And yet after all this time, I still felt like 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: that there was a bigger story to tell about what 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: it's like to live this very unique American life with 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: these very unique responsibilities, and so what I tried to 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: do was like a sunrise to sunset, look at quarterbacking 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: from high school to college to the NFL, and you know, 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: finally what it's like to be a retired Hall of Famer. 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: So those are my goals, and those are the things 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: that I set out to do with it. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: You know, we're talking to you obviously, you know, right 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: as the NFL season is starting, and you've got a 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 5: couple of players who you profile in this book who 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: are in the mix, both at the college level and 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: at the pro level, and I'm specifically thinking about Arch 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: Manning and Caleb Williams. What is your takeaway about the 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: state of football this season? What have you seen so 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 5: far that is reflected in the book or maybe advances 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: the book even further. 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, thank you. So, I mean, first of all, like, yeah, 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: the historical aspect of it is interesting to me, because 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 3: you know, I kind of set out thinking that from 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: the moment that the forward pass was legalized in college 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: in nineteen oh six, it would be like a slow 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: build to the quarterback as a job being mythologized and 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: celebrated like it is, and in fact, like it almost 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: took off immediately. It was like there was something about 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: that moment and what it became in our culture really 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: kind of culminating in the nineteen forties with with Bob Waterfield, 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: who is the quarterback of the Rams, and Jane Russell, 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: who was, you know, a fantastically famous pin up star 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: and actress that like it almost like held this cultural 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: place from the moment that it started. And when you 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: realize that, you realize that people like Joe Namath and 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Johnny Unitas kind of came later and helped evolve it 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: rather than helped launch something. And it's a good segue 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: to like Arch and Klea, because you know, the hype 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: is so big with quarterbacks now, and I think that 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: the way that quarterbacks are handled in our culture to 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: be a successful one, I think, and this is a 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: funny answer, but like I think you almost have to 81 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: be similar to like a politician or a pop star 82 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: or maybe like even a CEO, where you're kind of 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: in a bubble and you're kind of disconnected from reality 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: because you have to live in a state where doubt 85 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: cannot be allowed to seep in, and so in a 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: very real way, it's like you're kind of disconnected and 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: isolated from things that are going on because there's so 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: much pressure on this job. And when I look at 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: like Arch Manning, I mean, from the moment that guy 90 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: picked up a football, life was going to be different 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: for him. And right now the hype has outpaced his notoriety, 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: which is never a great place to be in. But 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: and he didn't do anything wrong. He's learning how to 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: be a college quarterback. And with Caleb Williams, it's very similar. 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean I think that, like, you know, the hype 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: coming about him was that he was a generational prospect 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: and while I do think that he's going to be 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: a good NFL quarterback, you know, he's still learning. And 99 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: you know, even though the position was under so much scrutiny, 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: it's still a job that people have to learn how 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: to do well. And I think that sometimes that gets. 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: Lost and a hard job, a hard job, it's hard. 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 105 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 7: I think one of the things for me that was 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 7: most interesting that it's like kind of a through line 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: throughout the book and just while we're talking about it, 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 7: it's the mentality behind the quarterback from all the different ways, right, 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 7: It's the way they get treated from the time they're 110 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 7: in the fifth grade and they pick up their first 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 7: ball to high school and they're they're the most popular 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 7: kid in high school, to getting everything they want in 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 7: college and being treated like, you know, the big man 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 7: on the campus, and then that can all change when 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 7: they go to NFL and then they're starting to fail 116 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 7: a little bit and taste that for the first time. 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 7: But then also on the other side, you just have 118 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 7: all these different things. And one of the other things 119 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 7: that it was really interesting to me too, was the 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 7: way that their parents treat them, you know, and this 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 7: sort of feeling that maybe from the outside of like 122 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 7: Arch Manning's, you know, bringing up that you kind of 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 7: noted at that his family was very different obviously because 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 7: they knew what they were doing, but like with Caleb 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 7: William's dad, it was very different. 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: You know. 127 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 7: They feel like almost their quarterback dads are like dance moms. 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 7: That's what it felt like. 129 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: That's such an astute point because, Okay, there's a couple 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: of factors at play. Number One, this thing is so 131 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: big that if a dad is told by someone, a 132 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: coach or a quarterback guru that you know your son's 133 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: got your son's special it's like they become nomads in 134 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: the desert. I mean they will do anything, and it's 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: like just hand over their credit card because you know, 136 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: they start seeing you know, their kid one day on 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: stage at the Hall of Fame with a bust and 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: a gold jacket, and so you have all of these things. 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: Then you have a high school system and it's like 140 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: this Infort this circuit, this industrial complex that is a 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: multimillion dollar business and glorifies these kids in ways that 142 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: happens very young and so it almost becomes like a 143 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse type of club. So you have that where 144 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: it's like these kids are realizing from a very young 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: age that maybe they're a little special and they're a 146 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: little different. And you need that mentality to succeed because, 147 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: as we said earlier, like you can't live in reality, 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: you kind of have to live in a suspended state. 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: Then you have the dads and the mom sometimes who 150 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: are very very controlling and want to help navigate their 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: kids through a very dangerous space, which is totally understandable. 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: And then you have a what does where does that 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: leave these guys if they're not one of the Look, 154 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: there are sixteen thousand high school starting quarterbacks in America, 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: three tops out of you know every couple years end 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: up making it to the Hall of Fame. So what 157 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: if your kid, just by natural selection isn't good enough. 158 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: It creates an entire tension and complication to this job 159 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: that I really try to explore in there, because I 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: take this kid, Colin Hurley, he's at LSU right now. 161 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: You know, I wrote about him because he wanted to 162 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: be the most precocious quarterback maybe that ever existed. I mean, 163 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: he wanted to be on the fastest of the fast tracks. 164 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: He wanted to be the youngest one to do everything. 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: And he entered college at LSU, which is one of 166 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: the best, you know, football universities in the country, at 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: age sixteen. But like when he went to college at 168 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: age sixteen, his dad was terrified of just a kid 169 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: that age being in that setting. And you know, even 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: though he kind of had gone along with it. And 171 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, last January, his son was in a horrible 172 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: car accident and almost died. Drove his charger into a tree. 173 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: And you know, I write about what it was like 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: in the ICU because I went and visited him like 175 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: that night, and you know, was there for a couple 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: of days. But it's like it opens up all of 177 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: these larger truths that happened to regular people, not just 178 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: superstar quarterbacks because of all of these dynamics. 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a great segue to where I wanted 180 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 5: to go next, seth, which is this nil era which 181 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 5: has radically changed the economics of the business. I mean 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: maybe in one of the most profound ways that we've 183 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: all seen during our lifetimes when it comes to an 184 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 5: economic change in sports. Obviously that was part of what 185 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 5: was driving Colin Hurley. It's a huge aspect of the 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: Arch Manning story, It's a huge art aspect of the 187 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 5: Williams story, and it continue. So when you think about 188 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 5: a Carson Beck choosing to go to Miami rather than 189 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 5: going pro, what does the new economics of the college 190 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 5: game mean for the role of the pro quarterback going forward? 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: Man, that is a great question. I think, Look, I 192 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: think it is general Well, look, I think generally speaking, 193 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: it's positive because I believe that American teenagers and college 194 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: students were the only people in the world who were 195 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: not allowed to cash in on their name, image and 196 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: likeness and be able to play like you know, the 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: sport that they were so good at doing. I believe 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: that that was true, and it was because of these 199 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: NCAA rules, which you know, were horrifically outdated, you know. 200 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: And so. 201 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: The college game I think that, like the college game 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: is kind of a mess right now because it's essentially 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: pro football, which is what it's kind of been for 204 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: a long time, but there's no structure and so how 205 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: they sort that out is going to take some time. Now, 206 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: what does it mean for college quarterbacks entering the NFL. Well, 207 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's two things. Number one is 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: that I think that for the best, hopefully it allows them. 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, they entered the NFL with a little bit 210 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: more of a financial cushion, and you know, they're maybe 211 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: more exposed to some of the aspects of pro football 212 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: that they wouldn't have been otherwise because they were so 213 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: sheltered in college. And so I think that, like, look, 214 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: the truth, Look, this is a book about American ambition 215 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: and a book about American fame, and fame warps people. 216 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: And I think that like the earlier they can be 217 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: exposed to that and kind of get used to it, 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: maybe the better it is for them in the NFL. 219 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, how does it, How does it play out 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: in terms of their ability to have a cohesive college experience. 221 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: I mean that's a whole other question. Yeah, maybe they 222 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: want that, maybe they don't. Yeah, yeah, I mean Tom 223 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: Brady talks about it, you know. And Brady is funny 224 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: because I mean we graduated high school in college the 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: same year. But you know, he he can sound very 226 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: much like a back in my day type of guy 227 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: because he took so much pride in being broken in 228 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: college and having fixed himself and how it gave him 229 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: the self confidence to go into the NFL and exploit 230 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: the chance that he had. And I think that, like 231 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: he has a point when he says that if you 232 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: can just transfer after two months, if you don't like 233 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: what's going on there at your college, there might be 234 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: a cost to that, even if there's also a benefit. 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: That's ESPN senior writer Seth Wickersham speaking with Vanessa and 236 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 6: friend of the show Jason Kelly about Seth's new book, 237 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 6: American King's Biography of the Quarterback Up. Next, we turned 238 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: to racing, and here from forward time in the Car 239 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: Series Champion Alex Plot with Vanessa Verdomo. I'm Michael L. 240 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 6: Barr you're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports Bloomberg 241 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 6: Radio around the world. 242 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 243 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: Now, let's talk a little racing. Joining us now is 244 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 6: Alex Polo. He's a four time IndyCar Series champion and 245 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 6: winner of this year's Indianapolis five hundred. He made history 246 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: as the first Spaniard to win both an IndyCar title 247 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 6: and the Indy five hundred. Alex, Welcome to the Bloomberg 248 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 6: Business of Sports. 249 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. Let's put it this way. When you 251 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 6: win eight times on the circuit, and you have fourteen 252 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 6: top fives and you beat your second place opponent in 253 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 6: the standings to win the championship by almost two hundred points, Yeah, 254 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 6: I think I see why. You have four Indie titles 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 6: and the last three you won in a row. 256 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been incredible. Honestly, I cannot really believe it. 257 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes I still pinch myself because it's been crazy couple 258 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: of years, honestly, but this one has been super special. 259 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: Like winning my first n five hundred, winning eight races 260 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: and a championship the same year, it's just been incredible. 261 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 7: Alex tell us about this year and how is different 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: after winning the five hundred, and obviously you've won championships before, 263 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 7: but something's different when you get that Indy five hundred 264 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 7: title win. Tell us about that and how it was 265 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 7: different for the rest of the season. Do you go 266 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 7: into a different stratosphere of people knowing who you are, 267 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 7: knowing your name and all that. 268 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean the five hundred, So for people that don't know, 269 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: it's our super Bowl, it's our biggest race by far. 270 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: We have over three hundred and fifty thousand people at 271 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the racetrack that day, just that day, So it's when 272 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: you win there in front of so many people, with 273 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: all the pressure that you have, with how hard it 274 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: is to win that race. It's like an endurance and 275 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: a spring race at the same time, like five hundred 276 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: miles to two hundred laps. So the feeling there was so emotional, 277 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: like seeing people, my mechanics, my engineers crib because they've 278 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: been waiting so long to get it. And also for me, 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: like just winning that race was amazing. So I won 280 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: three IndyCar championships before winning the Indy five hundred, but 281 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: the exposure I got after winning that race was a 282 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: lot bigger, like something that never felt before. So to 283 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: top it off with another championship at the end of 284 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: the year has been surreal. 285 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing. 286 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 6: You're on a champion's list. I want people to understand 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 6: you're going to surpass AJ Foyd has seven, Scott Dixon six, 288 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: you have four, tied with Mario Andretti, Dario fran Kitty 289 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 6: and Sebastian Bordet all at four and man you got 290 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: years ago. Man, just blow everybody out of the place. 291 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 6: What is it like. You've been racing in IndyCar for 292 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 6: six years and you have accomplished this. 293 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think. It's crazy when I look back 294 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: and the amount of success my team, chipen As Racing 295 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: and I had in such a short period of time. 296 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: I think it's it's tough. It's tough to continuously have 297 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the best team around you. It's tough to have that 298 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: confidence to be a littlely better than your competitors on 299 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: track and to have that little bit of luck that 300 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: you need sometimes on all sports. But we're going to 301 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: continue pushing. I mean, obviously the target is to get 302 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: more to try and and surpass those guys that you 303 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: said which is very tough, tough work. Those guys are legends. 304 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: My teammate Scott Dixon, as you said, he has six 305 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: INDI Car championships and it's very tough, like he has 306 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: done it over twenty years. I think that maintaining the 307 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: momentum and the speed and everything you need to continue 308 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: to win races and championships over fifteen twenty years is very, 309 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: very tough. 310 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's unbelievable. But like after winning the NDY five 311 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 7: hundred same year, winning a championship and then three back 312 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 7: to backs, you know all of that, what is the 313 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 7: motivation that keeps you going for the next few years? 314 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 7: Is it winning? Like, is it surpassing those numbers? Is 315 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 7: that sort passing those legends that it's going to keep 316 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 7: you going, or what's this next motivation that you're gonna 317 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 7: have going into the next year. 318 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Not really, I mean, I love it. I would love 319 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: to have the option to hopefully get six or seven 320 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: or eight. But what really motivates me is when we 321 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: start the next season in twenty twenty six, everybody's going 322 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: to have zero points. 323 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 324 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: So everybody starts from zero. Although we've won this year, 325 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. Like people don't my team, we don't 326 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: really care about that. I mean we're super happy, but 327 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean like that, that's a pass. So we need 328 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: to focus on scoring as many wins and as many 329 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: points as possible to try and get that twenty six 330 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: championship and then move on. That's what motivates us is 331 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: working on those cars, working on putting together cars that 332 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: are a little bit faster than everybody on my side 333 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: is going a little bit further on like driving wise, 334 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: like just breaking that little bit later, a little bit 335 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: better than what we did the last day or last 336 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: year or last race. So, yeah, that's a motivation you race. 337 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 6: As you mentioned for chip Ganassi, what is it like 338 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 6: when you have a chief who used to be behind 339 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 6: the wheel? 340 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's great. I mean it's so I've raised 341 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: I started racing in Europe. Obviously, I've raised for many 342 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: different team owners. I raised in Japan for a couple 343 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: of years, so I've seen a lot of different team owners, 344 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: and honestly, it's a lot easier when the team owner 345 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a driver, it has been a driver, or it's 346 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: still driving. Just because he and the stands he's on 347 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: the driver's side. He knows what we need. What we 348 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: need is all the tools to try and go out 349 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: and win, which that's like all the all the resources, 350 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: all our partners, like all the best mechanics, the best engineers. 351 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: That's what we need to go out and race. So yeah, 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: Chip is an awesome guy. He says that he likes winners. 353 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: That's all he cares about. He only cares about winning 354 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: all the race. He doesn't really care. 355 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 6: It's like an NFL coach who used to be a player. 356 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think it just helps to like I 357 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: understand and to maybe push for what's more important. 358 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 7: I'm glad you had brought up your previous experience in 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: racing in Europe and racing in Japan and things like that. 360 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 7: I actually had come to the first race of the 361 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 7: season this year in Saint Pete. It was my first 362 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 7: time coming to an IndyCar race, so I was just 363 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 7: trying to like take in everything and taking the differences 364 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 7: that I saw there that I've seen a Formula One 365 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 7: races and things like that, and I found that one 366 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 7: of the things that I thought was the most different 367 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 7: was this access that fans have to you guys, being 368 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 7: able to be right behind the paddock, Like it's just 369 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 7: a different culture I guess between like Formula one is 370 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 7: global and European and all of those things. And I 371 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 7: don't know if this is very American that we're like 372 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 7: we need to be right there. I mean, you guys 373 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 7: are just passing right by everyone. I'm like scooters and 374 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 7: stuff like that. Like, what do you think about the 375 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 7: level of access fans have and the difference between American 376 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 7: and European style. 377 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you can outfit it what you get in IndyCar, 378 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: Like you can get right to the cars, like you 379 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: can not touch them, but you can be right there, 380 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: especially not mine, please, but you can be right there 381 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: seeing what the mechanics do, how they work, just the 382 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: drivers as well, and see how the personalities are. Not 383 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: only on TV. I think it's very tough on IndyCar 384 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: and all motorsports series that you cannot really see our 385 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: faces while we drive. We have that helmet on and 386 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: we're on that race car. But you can get super 387 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: close to us at every single race. That makes IndyCars 388 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: so special for us. Sometimes drivers is tough because it 389 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: takes us like twenty to thirty minutes to get to 390 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: the car because there's so many people, especially at street 391 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: courses like you wear in Sampede. But it makes it 392 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: super fun and super special also for drivers to get 393 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: that atmosphere, to get that energy from that those fans 394 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: that are chain for you, chain for your team or 395 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: just for IndyCar in general. 396 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, safety in IndyCar racing, it has come a long 397 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 6: way just in a few years, especially with the aeroscreen. 398 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 6: Can you tell us more about safety in the IndyCar today. 399 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's honestly, it's I'm super lucky to 400 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: be driving in this era of IndyCar. The safety has 401 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: evolved so much over the years, but especially now. We 402 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: introduced the aeroscreen we believe five years ago now in 403 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and that just basically protects us from the ovals. 404 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: Like we raised a lot of ovals at the Indianapolis 405 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: Motor Speed where we're getting speech of two hundred and 406 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: forty miles an hour. So when there's pieces from other 407 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: cars and they fly towards you and you're going two 408 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: hundred and forty miles an hour, that's dangerous. So getting 409 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: the cars that we have now, the safety that we 410 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: have now allows us just to be safe and just 411 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: to be secure and just to be ready for the 412 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: next couple of even if something happens. 413 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like that can't believe it didn't exist 414 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 7: exists before. 415 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you look back at the other pictures and 416 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there's something missing, right. 417 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 418 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: When God introduced, everybody was the opposite, was like, well, 419 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: why do you put a screen on a car on 420 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: a single seat car? But now it makes total sense. 421 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. One of the other things that you've seen in 423 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 7: these last couple of years, it's being an IndyCar that 424 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 7: have changed the most for you. I mean, now there's 425 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 7: a new broadcast partner with Fox. Has that brought a 426 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 7: new viewership or anything like that. One of the biggest 427 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 7: changes you've seen one. 428 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: So, I entered IndyCar in twenty twenty and it was 429 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: a bit bad timing obviously with COVID and so on. 430 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: But what I've seen the past two years, I would 431 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: say it's just the young audience that we have, like 432 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: very young people, men and women that are coming to 433 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: a racetrack and just to enjoying the races. We used 434 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: to have, the fans that have been following IndyCar or 435 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: motorsport for a long time, twenty thirty years. But now 436 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: we get a lot of young people, and I think 437 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: it's just feeling like all those race tracks you saw 438 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: in Sampede that it was a lot of people, a 439 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: lot of energy, and everybody's just going there to have 440 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: a great time, enjoy some racing, and yeah, just hang 441 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: out with friends. 442 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 6: My oldest son and I'm proud to say, you think 443 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: I'm a motorhead. My oldest son, I taught him, well, 444 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 6: he adores racing. He's a native Detroiter, so when you 445 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 6: guys racing Detroit, he's always there. And I told him, 446 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 6: I said, listen, Alex Blow, I'm going to talk to him. 447 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 6: And he said, don't ask a stupid question. So in 448 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 6: honor of that, how did the bricks taste? 449 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 4: Man? 450 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 6: When you. 451 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: Well, you've done a very good job with your son. 452 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: But honestly, yeah, that's one of the traditions that we 453 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: get to do with the five hundred, is you get 454 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: the milk after winning to celebrate instead of champagne, and 455 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: then you get to Christ the kissed the bricks on 456 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: the front stretch, and honestly, I mean they taste like 457 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: the Obviously that was we had what we had there, 458 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: but one funny thing was that I was doing it 459 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: with my wife and my daughter. I have a twenty 460 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: month old daughter, and thank you, And we told her 461 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: just kiss the bricks, and she was looking at us, 462 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: like what you've been telling me. You've been telling me 463 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: all the time not to watch the ground or take. 464 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 7: Anything outside is icky, and now I have to do. 465 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have great pictures. 466 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you've talked about being a father kind of 467 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 7: has changed your style of racing a little bit of 468 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 7: the driver you are. Tell us a little bit about that. 469 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's been crazy to think that 470 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm add and she's already like twenty month old, but 471 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: it changed my life completely, Like now I have to 472 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: worry about somebody else, not just me, but the fact 473 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: of just getting home after a hard day or a 474 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: long day or a bad race, whatever, and seeing her smile. 475 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: She doesn't really care about what's going on. She only 476 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: wants to play with you. She wants to have a 477 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: great time with you, and she wants to be with you. 478 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: And that's been the best thing that ever happened to me. 479 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: And it's been pushing me to just work a little 480 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: bit harder, to like push myself even more and to 481 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: try and chase chase those speaktors make her brown. 482 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah. 483 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 6: Our thanks to four time IndyCar Series Champion and Indy 484 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 6: five hundred winner Alex Polow for joining us up. Next, 485 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 6: we hear from New York Knicks star forward Carl Anthony 486 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 6: Towns when he joined us here at Bloomberg World Headquarters 487 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 6: for Power Players, New York. For Vanessa Perdomo. I'm Michael Barr. 488 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports and Bloomberg 489 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 6: Radio around the world. 490 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 491 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports, 492 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: where we explore the big money issues in the world 493 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 6: of sports, Michael Barr. Earlier this month, Bloomberg World Headquarters 494 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 6: in New York hosted Power Players. It's an annual event 495 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 6: bringing together some of the biggest players and executives in 496 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: the sports world to talk about what's next in the industry. 497 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: Our friend Jason Kelly is executive producer and always gets 498 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 6: great names. New York Knicks star ford Carl Anthony Towns 499 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 6: was here and he spoke with Bloomberg US sports business 500 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 6: reporter Ira Budway on stage about joining the Knicks, looking 501 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 6: ahead to another big season, and some of what he's 502 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 6: up to off the court. Let's listen in. 503 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: So, you've had ten years for nine years in Minnesota. 504 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: Last fall you come to the Knicks basketball wise, how 505 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 4: did that experience compare your time with the Knicks last season? 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: Two very good teams. 507 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've been blessed to be in a situation 508 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: where both teams found success and to be part of 509 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: the success of both organizations that haven't seen that type 510 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: of success in so long. There's nothing short of a blessing. 511 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: So to be in a situation now where you come 512 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: from Minnesota, you come to New York and then you 513 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: see the garden, you stepping there and you've see you 514 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: feel yourself with the history of the game. Patrick you went, 515 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: Bernard King, John Starks, you just you know, you feel 516 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: the history. And to be part of that history now 517 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: is it's something that as a child here growing up 518 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: in the Tri State in New Jersey, being a big 519 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: Next fan growing up, it was it was a special moment. 520 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: This coming season you got a new coach. Yep, last season, 521 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: you're almost there. Yeah, you're gonna go all the way 522 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: this year is I think what the crowd wants. 523 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the plan every year is all the way there. 524 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: So everyone's ringing chasing, so we're doing nothing that I 525 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: think all the other twenty nineteens ain't saying the same thing. 526 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: The East looks pretty open right now. 527 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: I gotta say, you know, they said that last year too. 528 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: They said that last year, and I think the East 529 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: proved itself to be where the competition against the whole 530 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: league for a conference that was told to be weak 531 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: in the standards of NBA, we uh, we showed out 532 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: and the playoffs showed how competitive the East is and 533 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: also uh in the finals, Uh, you know, we showed 534 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: how great the East is as. 535 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: Well, cause you mentioned this is kind of a homecoming 536 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: as well. 537 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is that like. 538 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: Being back in the Tri state area you grew up 539 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: in Jersey? Is it how many ticket requests or you deal. 540 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: A whole lot of nightly bass? You don't know, you 541 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: could imagine everyone in here. It's it's it's up there. Yeah, 542 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: But it's a blessing, like I said, to be able 543 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: to be back home. You know, see my family. One 544 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: of the biggest things for me when I got here 545 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: was being able to have my grandmother actually see me 546 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: play basketball. She doesn't get a a many chances to 547 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: uh leave Jersey to see me play in Minnesota, so 548 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: it's for it to be a a car ride or 549 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: a train ride over to MSG. It's a it's special, 550 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: especially when you get to have that moment many times. 551 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: You know. I never thought of my career that I 552 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: would have my grandmother at so many of my games. 553 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: And for her to be able to not only see 554 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: me play, but last year to see such a historical 555 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: run by us, and for her to be part of 556 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: that moment and to feel the excitement and love the 557 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: fans have showed all of us on a team, it 558 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: was special. 559 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: It's also I think you know, off the court, New 560 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: York is a center of finance, media, fashion. I wonder 561 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: for you, has that open doors? I mean, obviously NBA 562 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: all started a lot of doors open anyway, but has 563 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 4: there been any sort of new things you've done or 564 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: new things you pursued because you're in this New York market, 565 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: you know. 566 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: Like you said, and being in the New York market 567 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: opens up a lot of new doors. And for me 568 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: to have so many different business business ventures and to 569 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: be able to beat so many new people, and to 570 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: be able to be educated more on different businesses, different ideas, 571 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: and to be part of the culture every day, you know, 572 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: not from a phone, not from a FaceTime, but the 573 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: actually here part of the culture every single day, and 574 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: of the business. It's a It's been great for me 575 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: as a as a as like you said, as a 576 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: brand and also as a businessman. Has helped me find 577 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: different ways to uh impact my family. 578 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: That actually leads to my next question. I think the 579 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: flip side of the New York market is the scrutiny. 580 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: Everything is back page of the post. You got stephen 581 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: A Smith, you got social media. 582 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: I think stephen A is not the only one. 583 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but has how has how we manage that difference? 584 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: So I gotta believe it's different than than Minnesota. The 585 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: sort of the level of scrutiny. 586 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: The scrutiny is different. I mean, it's it's been something 587 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: I've dealt with my whole career. When you're the number 588 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: one pick, there's a lot of expectations and there's a 589 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: standard that you are put on. And for me, I've 590 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: been always thinking of the biggest critic of me as 591 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: me uh, not stephen A, not anyone on any media network. 592 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: It's always been myself. I focused on myself, trying to 593 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: be the best version of myself every day, not only 594 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: as a basketball player. I know that's what gets the 595 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: most attention. Of what I do gets the most attention, 596 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: and not who I am, even though who I am 597 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: is more importantly than what I do. And I just 598 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: continue to find myself trying to be a better man, 599 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: be a better be a better son, while being the 600 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: best athlete I could be. And that's just the truth 601 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: at all. And I've had those standards for so long 602 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: that when I got to New York, I've always been 603 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: used to that scrutiny, and I've been used to having 604 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: to perform at a high level every single day. And 605 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: nothing has changed since I got here. I've been just 606 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: focused on the work, focused on every day showing the 607 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: best version of myself. 608 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: Did you have to adjust your your own social media 609 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: habits you're. 610 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: Reading I'm not big on social Yeah, it's it's been 611 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: the healthiest thing to do, I feel for me, you know, 612 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: obviously for branding business, you know, social media is a 613 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: huge aspect of that and the world we all live 614 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: and now it's a very technologically driven world, but I've 615 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: been more focused on just me, you know, just taking 616 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: care of you know, my family, taking care of my 617 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: personal life, and taking care of my job and being 618 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: the best version of that. I'm not the big biggest 619 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: social media person, so it's been actually a blessing in 620 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: this way. 621 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 4: What comes next for you, I mean, you've got a 622 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: long way to go. I think this is year eleven 623 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: for you. But you must have put some thought into 624 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: what you wanna do when your playing days are done. 625 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: What you wanna do with I think something like four 626 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: hundred million in career earnings at this point, and what 627 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: do you plan to do with that in your in 628 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: your uh post playing days. 629 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: I've thought about it, you know whatever, you know, doing 630 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: so many charitable works, especially in the Dominican Republic, Black 631 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: in my mother's home country, and having some businesses right now, 632 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: investments that are doing amazing, and uh, you know, I'm 633 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: proud of the success I've had off the court in business, 634 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: and you know, I do think about those things. I 635 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: do think about setting up my future because like you said, 636 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: you know, you get to the point you the future 637 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: comes up pretty quick. But for everyone I talk to 638 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: especially young kids. They always ask me, what's your best 639 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: piece of advice. It's always sustained the present. Continue to 640 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: take care of the present. The future will take care 641 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: of itself. And if I continue to do that, continue 642 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: to put myself in the best positions possible, continue to 643 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: do what I do between those lines and Nasion Square Garden, 644 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: and like I said in the beginning, continue to work 645 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: on me as a man, as a person. I think 646 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: in the future I'll find myself in the right positions 647 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: for that next step of life. 648 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: Right. Also on the social justice coalition in the League. Yeah, 649 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: you got an award for that actually recently, but I 650 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: appreciate you. 651 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. What are your priorities there is? 652 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: Where is your focus? 653 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: Inspire change? Inspired change? And I think you know in 654 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: doing that, you realize how immensely difficult it is to 655 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: get something through Congress. But to be able to be 656 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: part of the George Floyd Acton to be able to 657 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: do so many things that I've been able to be 658 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: a part of and to inspire change and effect change 659 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: is it's something that I could It's one of the 660 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: most proudest moments I've had to be able to take 661 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: care of not only cause you know with the Vice 662 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: President VPA, you look to take care of the players, 663 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: but to be able to take care of the country 664 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: and men of color has been something special and you 665 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: feel that the. 666 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 4: League is right there with you in that. 667 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: Yes, very much. You know, anyone who doesn't know the 668 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: Social Justice Coalition is being able to help affect change 669 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: socially in the world. And Adam Silver's on every single zoom, 670 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: so he is part of the He's part of it. 671 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 2: The NBA is fully on board with inspiring change and 672 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: helping the next generation and all walks of life in 673 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: the world. And I think that we've done an amazing 674 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: job of continuously working with Congress finding different ways to help. 675 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: And a lot of owners as well are on the team. 676 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: So some of your favorite owners if you're not a 677 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: Knicks fan, which would be crazy being this room and 678 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: not be but if you aren't, you some of the 679 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: biggest owners in the game and MBA are part of 680 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: this coalition as well, and we find ourselves working hand 681 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: in hand with each other to take care of the 682 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: next generation into generation of. 683 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: Now we mentioned the sort of new opportunities that might 684 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: come with being in new York. Does it change the 685 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: relationship with like you've been with Nike since you came 686 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: in the league, Gatorade, it's a long standing relationship viewers. 687 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: Being a Nicked. Is it changed the conversation with them 688 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: in terms of what your campaigns are, what they want 689 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: you to do, what they Well? 690 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: I think, first off, they've been amazing partners right with 691 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: me and I couldn't have acts for better partners since 692 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: day one stepping into the league, Nike and Gatorade of 693 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: treating me with nothing but love, and they've shown so 694 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 2: much respect for the work I put in so used 695 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: testament to them, and I think being in New York 696 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: it gives me the chance to give more eyeballs to 697 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: their brands, you know, and be able to show the 698 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: world more why they have had so much faith in me. 699 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been blessed, especially last year to 700 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: repay that faith with great results for them. 701 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: Right, how we're going to see what are you going 702 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 4: to be wearing? I'm like, I don't know. 703 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: We'll have to see October twenty second, y'all'll find out. 704 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: So talking again, just to go back to kind of 705 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 4: your post playing days, is that something that you think 706 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: a lot about at this point, or you're just like 707 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: you said, you're in you know, I think I give 708 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: it a thought. 709 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 2: But like I said, I continue to worry about the present, right, 710 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: I continue to worry about the present. It will always 711 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: take care of the future. It's been my philosophy since 712 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: day one. Never get ahead and never take take the shortcut. 713 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: Always continue to put the work in right. I think 714 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: that for me, if I continue to just stay in 715 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: the present, it's been great for my career, it's been 716 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: great for business, and I think if I continue to 717 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: do that, I'll put myself in the right position. 718 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 4: Right is it for you? How much are you kind 719 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: of day to day looking at you mentioned you've had 720 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: some businesses that work well, Like how much of that 721 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 4: is in your Is that mostly stock that in the 722 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: off season where you're putting. 723 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 2: No, I think it's all your thing. I think, you know, 724 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: business never stops, especially in New York. So just me, 725 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm just always continuing to find ways to, you know, 726 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: find that one percent. How can I get better? How 727 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: can I level up today? How can I improve my 728 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: family's life? You know? And I think that for me 729 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: that never changes. 730 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 6: You know. 731 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: Obviously the main focus is always basketball. It's always going 732 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 2: to be that I put the time in. But if 733 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: you want anything bad enough in life, you'll put the 734 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: work in and you'll find time to make it happen. 735 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: So that's all I've been doing, just finding the time, 736 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: you know, being diligent and purposeful with my schedule and 737 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: finding different ways I can find time to make everything 738 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: happen in my life. 739 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 6: It's a big cat. New York Knicks All Star forward 740 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 6: Carl Anthony Towns on stage with Bloomberg US sports business 741 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 6: reporter Ira Budway from Bloomberg Power Players, New York. If 742 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 6: you want to hear more from power Players, check out 743 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 6: the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast. One of our most 744 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 6: recent editions has several conversations from the event, including with 745 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 6: two time w NBA champion and four time Olympic gold 746 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 6: medalist Sylvia Fols and Aries Management co founder and CEO 747 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 6: Michael R. Rugetti. Check it out now wherever you get 748 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 6: your podcast and subscribe so you never miss a new episode. 749 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 6: And that does it for this edition of the Bloomberg 750 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 6: Business of Sports. For my colleagues Namian Sasaur and Vanessa Berdomo, 751 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 6: I'm Michael Barr, Thanks for joining us. Tune in again 752 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 6: next week for the latest on the stories moving big 753 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 6: old money in the world of sports. You're listening to 754 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 6: the Bloomberg Business of Sports Bloomberg Radio around the world.