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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everyone? Welcome to Point Game presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget DraftKings is your home for all the action

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Speaker 1: across the NBA and gets too close to the game

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Speaker 1: we all love. The crown is yours. Now. I'm one

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Speaker 1: of your host CJ Toldono you might know me from

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Speaker 1: House of Highlights follow through, but we all know I'm

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Speaker 1: not the reason we're here. So without further ado, I

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Speaker 1: want to introduce my permanent co host, the reason why

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Speaker 1: we have this show. Give you a little credits here,

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Speaker 1: five time NBA All Star, former number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: optimist Dime himself. Now I want to know the story

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Speaker 1: behind that nickname. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my co host,

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Speaker 1: John Wall. John. How you feeling, man?

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Speaker 2: What's something? I'm super excited to be here. Man.

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Speaker 3: Everybody may tell me for a while to get on

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Speaker 3: the podcast, so I'm glad I can be able to

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Speaker 3: do this with you and just have some fun. Man,

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Speaker 3: just talk about the game of basketball and just tell

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Speaker 3: people what my experience has been about life or been

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Speaker 3: in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before or before we move on, I just want

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Speaker 1: to be like, you know, everyone knows there's so many

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Speaker 1: player podcasts right now, you know, from players you know

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Speaker 1: in the league and and you know out of the league,

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Speaker 1: like hoving around it. But I remember when we were

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Speaker 1: like we got to do this pod. I was like, immediately,

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Speaker 1: John Wall because I remember listening to that Theo Penson interviewed,

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Speaker 1: just all the knowledge and wisdom and stories you dropped.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we got to have this dude on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis. So how excited are you doing this

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Speaker 1: pod with us?

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Speaker 2: Super exciting? Man.

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Speaker 3: For me, I'm just like I feel like I'm just

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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people use the word real.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like to use that so much. I

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Speaker 3: just like to say I'm just gonna be honest, Like

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Speaker 3: I rather just be honest and be one hundred with

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Speaker 3: you at all times. And uh, that's how my mom

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Speaker 3: raised me. And either some people don't like it. Some

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Speaker 3: people are not gonna like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But in the day, like I know, I'm just being

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Speaker 3: myself at all times and I'm not trying to fit

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Speaker 3: in to be nobody else. And I think that's why

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Speaker 3: a lot of people respect me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, as I like to say, a hardcore basketball fan

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Speaker 1: like I know ball and I will prove it through

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Speaker 1: this through this series. But I think you have some

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Speaker 1: gas in your tank. But we all know that, Paul

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Speaker 1: to the NB and whatnot. So let us know, Like

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Speaker 1: you're not on a squad right now, you're on the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Last what are you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Just working out, man, Just working out, staying ready. But

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Speaker 3: most important, man, just being a dad, enjoying the time

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Speaker 3: to be around my boys. Man, raise my kids, being

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Speaker 3: the school plays, watching them saying, getting little Christmas parades

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Speaker 3: His family had just got like started school. Then you

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Speaker 3: it and embracing it being a father, and that's something

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Speaker 1: And that's actually kind of interesting and a big point

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Speaker 1: kind of these NBA journeymen like you talked about a

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well for me?

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Speaker 3: Kind of like when I went to Houston, I didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with this pod til I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my biggest fear of John and it's also what

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Speaker 1: and you said you're taking care of your body and

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Speaker 1: you're working out. So what does your daily life look

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Speaker 1: like outside of doing this pod? Like, how are you

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Speaker 2: Six thirty seven o'clock? Get up?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I take the kids to school. Sometimes I help

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Speaker 1: I remember, this is a story. I always knew about

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Speaker 1: you because I've been a fan, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this seems like an urban legend. But then I saw

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Speaker 1: you post about it on your Instagram, and so the

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Speaker 1: and I think you know the story. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask you about two thousand and seven. You were seventeen

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Speaker 1: I maybe you weren't invited but to try out for

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Speaker 1: the Rebok camp, which then led you to get ranked.

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Speaker 1: So can you tell us some details about that story?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I give I give you more d for

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Speaker 2: details into that. Man.

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Speaker 3: I used to be on scout dot com every day

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Speaker 3: I can be up here like I'm nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm just as nice as them.

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Speaker 3: It's just shout out to David West, like, that's the

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Speaker 3: first AU team ever played with garn Rod Bulldogs, you

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Speaker 3: Brian Clifton that used to run D one sports like

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Speaker 3: Eric Waller's Marshall Modes. All those guys came out of there,

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Speaker 3: Me Quincy Miller, J T. Terrell, So many guys came

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Speaker 3: Brian Clifton and it was the Rebok Underclassman Camp, So

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Speaker 2: Camp Next in Jersey.

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Speaker 3: So we go there and they was like we only

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Speaker 3: all right, I'm be one of these five. Like I

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Speaker 3: don't care who's here, what's going on. Funny thing is

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Speaker 3: the first day I'm late, I got a mohawk. One,

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Speaker 3: I'm already walking in there with a mohawk. Me and

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Speaker 3: my homeboy JT. Thrill walking there with a mohawk, and

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Speaker 3: my got around my autube programmers like, bro, that's not

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Speaker 3: a good look, Like you need to clean image, like

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Speaker 3: he always believe hit low cuts. And I was like, Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ware whatever style I want. I'm that nice

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Speaker 3: one of there killed the camp, one of the five

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Speaker 3: North Carolina and the Tudor beings like little. I'm in

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Speaker 3: the back seats like little. We go there. I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: of this, Like you know what I mean, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to get on a plane.

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Speaker 2: Or something. So we fly.

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Speaker 3: Never forget walking there the first day, you know, like

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Speaker 3: it's a line everybody to getting their gear. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: looking around like them. I'm right here with the guys

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Speaker 3: that I've been looking at it on scout dot com.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, cool. So then I see

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Speaker 3: Brandon Jennis and Isaiah Thomas come like they skipped the

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Speaker 3: whole line. Like you know, they got a name, they've

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Speaker 3: been at ABCD camp, they've been ranked in all this.

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Speaker 2: They skipped the line. They getting unlimited.

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Speaker 3: Gear, they getting shoes that we ain't getting. I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 3: I always said, I went into that camp hunting, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always I'm a sneaker head, and so

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Speaker 3: And my team, we was good, but we wasn't like

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Speaker 1: Damn Okay, This is a random ask question what you

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Speaker 1: just inspired me by? Because yeah, everyone grilled rocking Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: He hurt my money at all?

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Speaker 3: No, you know, I mean like I ain't got no deal, right,

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Speaker 2: Of the old schools.

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Speaker 3: But Gil gat a blessed them with a lot of

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Speaker 3: Like the No man, it was wild man we got

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Speaker 3: We can talk about that another time with Get.

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Speaker 1: We'll have them on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta have mo on. But Gil was man,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, one more, one more thing about this story

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Speaker 1: and then we'll go to break. So people said it

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Speaker 1: I don't think it makes it any under No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Make it un cool.

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Speaker 3: But let me be honest. If I was gonna take

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't do that. They want a cab though,

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Speaker 1: Make a movie about it. Okay, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: cool the way it is, so when we come back

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Speaker 1: on Point Game, We're gonna be here with John Waller.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Point Game now, John, we're

436
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Speaker 1: recording this. We're right in the middle of the break,

437
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Speaker 1: the All Star break games come back on Thursday. But

438
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Speaker 1: I was in Indy for All Star and I always

439
00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,880
Speaker 1: have a good time, right and you know, we know

440
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,440
Speaker 1: there's parties and whatnot, but like the programming itself. Now,

441
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Speaker 1: you were a five time NBA All Star. Let me

442
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Speaker 1: reiterate that to people listening. You've been there multiple times.

443
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Speaker 1: So what did you think about this year's All Star

444
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Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people are saying, we

445
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,280
Speaker 1: gotta fix we gotta fix the dunk contest, like everything's

446
00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,880
Speaker 1: kind of boring. So what do you did you watch

447
00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 1: the All Star All Star weekend and what do you

448
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,040
Speaker 1: think about it? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it.

450
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Speaker 3: Be honest, even when I first went my first year

451
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Speaker 3: it was in New Orleans, Like I was overwhelming. I mean,

452
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Speaker 3: just being an All Star. I feel like I should

453
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,480
Speaker 3: have been one a year earlier that and I could

454
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Speaker 3: have had more about then have the injuries I had,

455
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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean it's all part of God's playing.

456
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Speaker 3: But I think like you know what I mean, how

457
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Speaker 3: you look at it growing up, Like when I watched

458
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Speaker 3: the game, like one of my favorite games, I think

459
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Speaker 3: it was in DC AI and then was going at

460
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Speaker 3: it to the end when they would when they were.

461
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Speaker 2: Their real jerseys.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you look at it then and it was

463
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Speaker 3: just so competitive, like you know what I mean, Like

464
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Speaker 3: they wanted to win, And that's how I think it

465
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Speaker 3: has to get back to. But I don't know how

466
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Speaker 3: you get it there, you know what I mean. I

467
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,960
Speaker 3: think it's hard. But when I played, like it was competitive,

468
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Speaker 3: like my first year.

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Speaker 2: I did.

470
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Speaker 3: We were the sleeve jerseys. Think we were to save Jersey,

471
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Speaker 3: New Orleans. Yeah, we were the blue ones. So like

472
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Speaker 3: it was a competitive ass game, Like I was one.

473
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm the reason why he won, but

474
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Speaker 3: like I started us, like getting back into the game

475
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Speaker 3: and making a run. That's when Kyrie went. Kyrie went

476
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Speaker 3: MVP that year. He went crazy. He was lazies doing it.

477
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Speaker 3: But like it was competitive. I think Mello hit eight

478
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 3: threes that game. Like it was a competitive ass game,

479
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 3: and I think they got to get back to that.

480
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Speaker 3: But it's kind of hard because the league has changed,

481
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Speaker 3: Like I think they took like seventy one threes is

482
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Speaker 3: one team the other team to like sixty something like right,

483
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Speaker 3: it's just what the game is now. There was like

484
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Speaker 3: they want a lot of scoring. They won a lot

485
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Speaker 3: of threes, and they want a lot of highlights, you know,

486
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Speaker 3: I mean, like that's just what the game is involved

487
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Speaker 3: into now. And like you know what I mean, I

488
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,719
Speaker 3: think when Dame shot twenty three threes and they made

489
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Speaker 3: eleven of them, but shit, he shot two from half

490
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Speaker 3: court and looked like it was effless.

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Speaker 1: Like well, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it's

492
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Speaker 1: a problem with taking threes, but like they were uncontested

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: I just think like it's like even just look how

495
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Speaker 3: the start of the game goes like nobody's really competing,

496
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Speaker 3: nobody really doing nothing.

497
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Speaker 2: And may maybe when.

498
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Speaker 3: Kobe was there, like it was had it like Kobe

499
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,640
Speaker 3: won bullshitting a round, like you know what I mean.

500
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Speaker 3: It's because like for me, I look like you like

501
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 3: the All Star Game should be like a pickup game.

502
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Speaker 2: That's what it really is.

503
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Speaker 3: You got the best twenty four players that the Nbay

504
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 3: think is the best twenty four right now, they should

505
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 3: be competing to each of them. I can't control, like

506
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 3: why guys don't compete, why they do. I don't know

507
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,119
Speaker 3: how the Nbay could fix that. And I mean, I

508
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 3: think there's something they all have to talk to about

509
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 3: what the players and with those And I remember earlier

510
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Speaker 3: on in my when I went, not say but early

511
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Speaker 3: when I went, it was like right after the All

512
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 3: Star Game, we probably had one of two days and

513
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: we had to report back to this team, you know

514
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Speaker 3: what I mean.

515
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Speaker 2: Like now they get them.

516
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Speaker 3: They give the All Star guys an extra four days

517
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Speaker 3: so they can have their own break. So I think

518
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit different now. I don't know, like,

519
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: but it's changed. The league has changed so many ways,

520
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 3: and the All Star Game has changed. I wasn't there,

521
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Speaker 3: and I don't know how the parties and those all

522
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: those accolades and things was. But like, yeah, dunk contest

523
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 3: was boring, Like it wasn't a sighting at all. But

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Speaker 3: I think it's hard though, because so many guys, I'm done,

525
00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 3: every damn dunk you basically could do. It's like you

526
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 3: basically got to go get like the best of the

527
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Speaker 3: best in the league and see what they can do.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, the dunk content was barring people

529
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Speaker 1: the judging. I think a lot of people had some

530
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Speaker 1: criticism on the judging, like they weren't given, you know,

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Speaker 1: the appropriate scores.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I agree with the topic. You know, yeah,

533
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Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with that for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, and what is it because Jalen Brown is like,

535
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Speaker 1: oh he's you know, he's a star, He's going to

536
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Speaker 1: be the All Star Game. I think there was a

537
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Speaker 1: bit of an agenda to get him to the final round.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe so, like I think he had

539
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: some cool dunks, but it's like dunks we already seen,

540
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: Like those were right basic.

541
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Speaker 2: Dunks, you know what I mean.

542
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Speaker 3: Like, I know he's a freaking athlete, like Jaylen Brown

543
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: taking out the way from him, but I think Jacob

544
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Speaker 3: Toppit had better dunks to him. He just didn't get

545
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 3: the scores for him, you know what I mean. And

546
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: I think it's hard as difficult, you know what I mean.

547
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Speaker 3: And also like you don't really have too many All

548
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Speaker 3: Stars to try to anticipate in the dunk contest, So

549
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Speaker 3: that might have been a reason why they wanted to

550
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Speaker 3: get him to the next round.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think is that reason why these

552
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Speaker 1: bigger players inn play because I was watching back in

553
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and it was you George on the squad

554
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: back when they did teams for the dunk contest. So

555
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Speaker 1: why don't these bigger players do the dunk contest.

556
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

557
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I always told them, like they

558
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: asked me to do it early, like a couple of

559
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: years earlier before I got did and I told them,

560
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Speaker 3: I said, if I make the All Star Game this year,

561
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Speaker 3: I do the Dunk Contest, like I wanted my first

562
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Speaker 3: time doing a dunk contest to be an All Star Game.

563
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Speaker 2: The team stuff was different. It was a little different

564
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 2: for sure.

565
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Speaker 3: I wish it could have been like individuals, but I

566
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: think it was still dope, like we had fun, like

567
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: it was creative. They try to do something different and

568
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: make it more excited. I'm glad Like they went back

569
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Speaker 3: to the East versus West. I think that's the best.

570
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: I think somebody came up with it. I think I

571
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Speaker 3: seen on Twitter, Instagram, like I think this is how

572
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: they do it in baseball, and I don't want to

573
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: be wrong, but like whoever win the All Star Game

574
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 3: gets home court throughout the finals. I think that's how

575
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: you got to create stuff like that because teams want

576
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Speaker 3: the home court in the finals, Like you gotta find

577
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Speaker 3: ways to make it more like creative or even when

578
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Speaker 3: they did the point thing like the remember I liked

579
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Speaker 3: it when they did the point thing, like each quarter,

580
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Speaker 3: whoever win the quarter they get like a bonus to

581
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Speaker 3: the foundation or whatever it is. And then whoever at

582
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: the end, you got a target score, Like I think

583
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Speaker 3: that's dope. I thought that was dope. I think they

584
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: have to find ways to be creative to make it

585
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Speaker 3: a little bit more interesting because of naw, it's.

586
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Speaker 2: Like I didn't even know Kat had fifty.

587
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what I mean, like just being realistic,

588
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: like he had fifty and then he shot the ball

589
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: thirty five times off the bench, Like that is crazy.

590
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Speaker 1: I well, so with the n season tournament and not

591
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: to get off track, but like there was an incentivized

592
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Speaker 1: like they incentivize the players, like you get half a

593
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: mill or whatever, and it was public fans do that.

594
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Speaker 3: I feel like this, Yeah, I feel like that was

595
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: dope because, like Dame said, one of the realist things,

596
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: like some of the guys that's two way guys, and

597
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: some of the guys that might not make the money

598
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: that a lot of these stars make. They want that money,

599
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: like that's some money that they can do some stuff

600
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Speaker 3: with to take care of their family or take care

601
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: of themselves. So they put a target on their back

602
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: that everybody was competing to try to really win it,

603
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think you have

604
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: to do like you have to do things like that,

605
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: you have to put trademark tender and things that's value

606
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: to make you like, yo, I got it, Like I

607
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: need this win, Like I want to win this for

608
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: my guys. Because I enjoyed watching All Star games growing up.

609
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: I enjoyed being in the All Star Game. I feel

610
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: like all the ones I was in was competitive, and

611
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: then I went to the last one that Kobe was

612
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: in in Toronto, and that was real competitive, you know

613
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like him and him and Lebron having

614
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: the io matchup on the wing, that like idle picture

615
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: that everybody has, Like.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's ruined. Jake are always doing

617
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: the most on the sideline.

618
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 3: But I just feel like Kobe, like I think everybody

619
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Speaker 3: like that's kind of like when Mike got in a game,

620
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, Like shit, they compare this,

621
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: they dogs like they're not playing around like kind of

622
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: I'd be honest to like when Russell West was in

623
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: the All Star Game, like he didn't mess around, Like yeah,

624
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: because like those guys played with that one motor. They

625
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: never turned it off, no matter if it's a pick

626
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 3: up game, one on one, two on two, like they

627
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: just played like that at all times. And I think

628
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: you gotta have that going on if you want to

629
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Speaker 3: bring the All Star Game back. For me, when I

630
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: play like I always treat it, this might be my

631
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: last time able to play basketball, you know what I mean,

632
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Speaker 3: So I just try to give a hundred seeing effort

633
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: at all times.

634
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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so we were talking about the dunk contest.

635
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: We had some younger players who are being asked about it,

636
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: and they were saying, like, we don't need the dunk contests.

637
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: We've seen it all and they were recommending and I

638
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: think you'll love this king of the court one on

639
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: one Like I've been saying, dunk contest in one on one.

640
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Speaker 1: So what do you think? How how come it's not

641
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: happening because it seems so obvious.

642
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: It depends.

643
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: It goes back to like do the stars players want

644
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: to play one on one you know what I mean? Like,

645
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: do they want to really go through a King of

646
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Speaker 3: a court?

647
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

648
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: That's all the bores down to, you know, I mean,

649
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: like the guys that's the face of the league, the

650
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: guys that has that power and say so in the league.

651
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: Is like, do they really want to go through that?

652
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

653
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would be dope. They go through

654
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: a one on one series, the two on two series,

655
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: something like that, like I've seen Gil talking about on

656
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: his podcast. But it all depends do you really want

657
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: to get through that?

658
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

659
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: Like, I think that would be dope and exciting. And

660
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: I think we haven't seen a lot of dunks, but

661
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: you can still see some more.

662
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: You just got to be creative.

663
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: But I think it's just like you say, it's really

664
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: hard because so manyunks have been done. But you look

665
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: at the team flight Brother, they come up with some

666
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: new dunks every other day. I'm like, what in the world.

667
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, some of the like that's how I

668
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: came up with the dunk I did in the Dunk contest.

669
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do.

670
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: That's why, And tell me, what the preparation are there,

671
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: like consultants are people going to some of those professional

672
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: dunkers and be like I need a few for my

673
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: bag and.

674
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: Like literally I didn't even like literally I was doing

675
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: like because I knew it was a team and I

676
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: was like, man, I gotta think of one dunk to

677
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: do when I'm by myself for my one dunk, and

678
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna go behind my back like jar Smith did.

679
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: I did it at the Chris Paul pickup game, like

680
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: charity game we had during the lockown and I was like,

681
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do that. Those were crazy And

682
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: one guy was working out with somebody like yah, I

683
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: got this one dunk, you probably can try and I'm

684
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: like what he was like the ball there. But see

685
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't understand, like when you take

686
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: the ball out of somebody in the basketball or somebody

687
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: and like I double pumped it, like sometimes you just

688
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: grab the ball and dunk Like I double pumped it.

689
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: Say it made it more difficult. I had to get

690
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: the basketball in his hand, then go down and come

691
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: back up with the basketball. So a lot of people

692
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: like hold onto the basketball, get himself a boost and

693
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: make it dunck a little easier, but he was like, yo,

694
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: try I tried it. I did it one time. I

695
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: really did that duck twice in my life.

696
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: That one time.

697
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: He showed me I did it on the first try

698
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: to say, all right, this is duck I'm doing tomorrow night.

699
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I didn't. I didn't really know nothing.

700
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: I was like, because you got to think if you

701
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: go back to my sophomore year, I played the rookie

702
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: sophomore game.

703
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: I was doing dunks in that whole game.

704
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: They were like, no, you gotta get him to Kenny

705
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Spiel like you got to get him in the dunk contest,

706
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: Like you gotta get him in the dunk contest. And

707
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, bro, I'll get in the

708
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: crazy dunk contest I've seen in person with Aaron Gordon

709
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: and zachla being like that was.

710
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: They should have gave out two trophies for that one.

711
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: That was amazing.

712
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: No, I think they kind of scared away Aaron because

713
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: he got robbed, not robbed the first one said that

714
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Zach was giving it.

715
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: To like like one year. Second, like one year Aaron

716
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: didn't do too well. Then the second year he came back.

717
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: He was going like they had the herbal bowls spinning

718
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: around under both legs. I'm like, but then you got

719
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: Zach going tween the legs from the freet the line

720
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 3: win let women from three lines.

721
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, just give it a time. Bro, Like

722
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: it's getting hand.

723
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: Like what you feel like they could do to change

724
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: like the All Star weekend because you were there, so

725
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I don't know how

726
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 3: many you've been to, but like you were there and

727
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: you was around you experiences, so I would like know

728
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: what you think, like you could change about it.

729
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: No, It's it's interesting because you know a lot of

730
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: it is like the fan complaints and the fans sentiment

731
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: and so like. And I just love basketball. I love

732
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: the celebration of the weekend. But like when I go

733
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: to the games, because sometimes people are like there and

734
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: they're skipping the games and stuff, and I'm like, this

735
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: is why I'm there. And I think I'll start by

736
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: saying what they did well was I thought the Steph

737
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: versus Sabrina shit was amazing, amazing, you know, like that

738
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: was like a pay per view type thing, And I

739
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: think that's what let's think about this stuff through the

740
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: lens of like it's almost like, let's use the weekend

741
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: to answer the greatest what ifs in basketball. So it's like,

742
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, constantly when people watch women's sports, so like

743
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: can they do it as good as the as the men?

744
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: And like Sabrina set that record in her in their

745
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: own All Star Games, so they brought her over here.

746
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: So I think we got to expand on that, and

747
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: I to go back to what I was asking earlier

748
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: with the incentivizing these players because we saw it work

749
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: with the the in season tournament. I'm like, I legitimately

750
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: was pitching this people this week. I was like within

751
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: the All Star game itself because it's like that should

752
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: be the biggest, biggest event, whether it is or not,

753
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: but that should be it. And I'm like, let's create

754
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: little mini awards within the game, so you get like

755
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: best dunk in game, you know, longest shot, best defensive player,

756
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: through some other shit like best debut. And so you

757
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: got these guys who are like, oh man, I'm not

758
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: getting the ball or I'm not doing certain things, so

759
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna lock into that, and then you get

760
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: a combination all these players trying to go and get

761
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: certain awards and it's like you get two hundred K

762
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: for each of those. Now I don't know what budgets

763
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: are looking like, but like you know, if you give

764
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: players and it'd be cool. You can have like a

765
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a post like award ceremony where people

766
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: are announcing that shit because I think people in the

767
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: third quarter know who MVP is gonna be. So I

768
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: think stuff like that and let's just experiment with the shit,

769
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, at least, like I think fans love when

770
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: the NBA is trying stuff when we've seen that with

771
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: the end season, we see that with other stuff and

772
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: they might fall flat on their face, but at least

773
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: it's different every year.

774
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I think, I think I believe you

775
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: on this too, and I piggyback on it. I believe

776
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: like the n Ceedon Tournament was dope because you know,

777
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: like early in the season, everybody like the first monthy

778
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: to everybody, like usually take it like easy their way.

779
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Into the season.

780
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: But this year you have to compete, I mean, because

781
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: if you really wanted to go to the towards the

782
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: en Ceaton Tournament, you made the games more like meanful

783
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: early on because usually most people say, like the games

784
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: really don't get competitive to write them at the All

785
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: Star break, like now everybody trying to find their seat

786
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: and like where we're gonna go, where we're matching up

787
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: at Like we're trying to find this rhythm, you know

788
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: what I mean? And I think the n Ceaton Tournament

789
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: kind of gave it a little bit of more boost.

790
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: And then you got to think, like seven, eight, nine,

791
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: ten got to play against each other. So are you

792
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: really trying to be one of those teams that got

793
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: to see a Minnesota or Clippers or Denver or Oka

794
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: See or Boston or a phillyum Milwaukee in the first

795
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: round when you should be seeing them in the second

796
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: or third round.

797
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: We were talking about King of the Court. Do you

798
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: think some of these guys are scared to get exposed

799
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: in King of the Court?

800
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't know why you would be scared,

801
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: because I remember when I was at USA Basketball and

802
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: they they basically playing King of the Court. That was

803
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: playing me and post you know what I mean, that

804
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: video guy and look how lick that was. You got KD,

805
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: you got Paul George, you got Devin Booker, you got

806
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: a vide Oldipot was out there, Chris Mility was out there.

807
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: You had all those guys that are shot created, tough

808
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: shot making. James Harden was out there. Like those guys

809
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: are doing it at a high level. I think like

810
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 3: the league would love to see that because I remember

811
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: on Boston team they had Kyrie, Jaylen Brown, James Tatum.

812
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: They playing ones every day. I have to practice, you

813
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, so when you got a

814
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: team like that, like I bet you Brad d booking,

815
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: KD are playing every day, you know, you know what

816
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: I mean? I feel like in Boston you probably still

817
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: getting that when you have those teams that just imagine

818
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: the Clippers. Though you got Kawhi PG, Jameson Kauhid probably

819
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: ain't playing though, Kawhi probably just chilling.

820
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: Kawhi gonna get his work in, do what he do,

821
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: keep it moving.

822
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: He got five sat down. But okay, so who you

823
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: named a lot of great names who would win if

824
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: King of the Court happened next season? Who do you

825
00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: think would win?

826
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 3: I just think KD bro like there's nothing you can

827
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: do with him, you know what I mean? Like the

828
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: way he's improved defensively with using his length. You know

829
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean blocking shots. I think when he took that step,

830
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: that's what got him to the MVP that year, you

831
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because we already knew he could

832
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: score the ball like nothing you could do. Yeah, but

833
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: I just thank him, bro, just because he's seven feet

834
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: and it's not a shot he can't make, you know

835
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: what I mean.

836
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you probably came.

837
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: To the court, you're probably playing through dribbles or at

838
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: least a five second Like you can't be out there

839
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: dribbling all day.

840
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I agree with the because the

841
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: dribbling then it just becomes sloppy.

842
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: But if you're doing a dribbling, I'm taking kypri irving

843
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: and everybody gonna be mad because he got so many

844
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: counters and that you can do.

845
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So do you think like a Lebron is that

846
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: disadvantage just because of his playing style in a one

847
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: on one king of the court.

848
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: I think he could dominate if you want, you know

849
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: what I mean, Shit, Lebron's shooting the ball at a

850
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: high level. Every year in his career, he got better

851
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: at shooting the ball, So it ain't like you can

852
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: back up off of him. He can make those still

853
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: athletics still can blow by you. It's kind of hard.

854
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean, like I don't think he cares for one

855
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: on one, right, I mean like he's not one of

856
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: those guys that's gonna play king of the court, Like

857
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: what do I get out of this?

858
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: But I think the.

859
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: Other guy like Anthony Erwins would love that type of battle,

860
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like this type of stuff

861
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: for those young guys like that. But I think it'll

862
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: be a sighting for sure.

863
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Though.

864
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's I want to talk a little bit

865
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: of a regular season again, Like not every episode we'll

866
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: be talking about All Star. We're just waiting for real

867
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: basketball to come back.

868
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: Man.

869
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: But again, you know this time between All Star and

870
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: games coming back, like you said, they added four days,

871
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: just stories are are getting created. And I think right

872
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: now what's being added to the fire a little bit

873
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: is is Doc Rivers stuff. Because Doc Rivers he took

874
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: on and I will admit to he took on an

875
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: incredibly difficult task. Adrian Griffin got fired. Doc came in,

876
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Doc was calling games two days before that, came in

877
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: as the coach and he's currently three and seven, And

878
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: so I think what the media and fans and it

879
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: can be toxic. What they're grabbing onto is Doc has

880
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: been doing these interviews and he's saying he's just saying

881
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: it's hard, like he's saying, I wouldn't want I wouldn't

882
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: wish this on anyone else. And I think people are

883
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: acting like he's it's a cop out, he's making excuses.

884
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: And then it got to like JJ Reddick was saying

885
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: started making excuses. Pet Bev was like, come on, why

886
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: are you you know, shitting on Doc? He saved your career.

887
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Austin Rivers went on, so like, what do you make

888
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: of this Doc Rivers situation? Do you think he's gonna

889
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: get it together? Do you think Doc, you know, is

890
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: a certain coach where he's not the guy to like

891
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: take over a team with so much potential.

892
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

893
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't really like I never i've played against Doc,

894
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: but I never had opportunity to play for Doc, you

895
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: know what I mean, So I don't know how it really

896
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: is as a coach. I only can see, like what

897
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: I see from my point of view away from the game,

898
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: or even when I was playing against him. For one,

899
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like Agent Griffin should have been fired,

900
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like he was number two in

901
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: the East at the time. You just gave him a

902
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: nice contract. I mean, and then you're still paying Mike Boujeholz.

903
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: That means so like now you've played that, you're playing

904
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: three coaches. Like, but I don't know personally what was

905
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: going on to make them make that decision.

906
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: That's up to the front office and make that move.

907
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: And maybe their players wasn't happy, maybe the front office

908
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: wasn't happy, or they just wasn't messing together. Nobody knows

909
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: unless you was inside the locker room. And I think

910
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: that's the most important thing for them to keep it

911
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: inside the locker room, Like nobody needs to know why

912
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: they made that decision or was it his fault of

913
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: his fault, Like, you don't need to play the blame game.

914
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: As long as they all.

915
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Agreed to it and they made it, they did what's

916
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: best for their organization, you gotta respect it.

917
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: For me.

918
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: I think it's tough though for Doc a little bit,

919
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: because you have a team that probably already had the

920
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: chemistry and the camaraderie and whatever system they wanted to

921
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: run from Agrient Griffin. So they've probably been through that

922
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: through training camp into the first what twenty some games

923
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: thirty games of the season, if I'm not mistaken to

924
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Now you got to make adjustment to how do Doc

925
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: Rivers want to run his team?

926
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: What system do we have to run?

927
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: Like?

928
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: How do you want us to play?

929
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: So it's always hard with a new coach the first year,

930
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: trying to get adjusted to how they want you to play.

931
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: And then you gotta think Damon Jannie is trying to

932
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: figure out how to play together. You know, I mean,

933
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: Dames used to being ball dominant being in his show,

934
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: now he's with Joannis where Jianni's used to be in

935
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Baald dominant in his show a lot of times, you

936
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And then a lot of times

937
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter it would go to Chris Middleton

938
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: as they closer. Now you have Damian Lillard, that's bonafide

939
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: one of the best closes that we've ever seen. And

940
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: now how do you mess all three of these guys together?

941
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: So you go from putting all three of these guys

942
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: into one system and Chris Midton coming back from injury

943
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: and being in and out of the lineup, that's difficult,

944
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: and then boom, we got to switch from this one

945
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: system to another system, Like that's very difficult in one

946
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: season and they only played ten games together and I

947
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: think Chris Middleton got injured and one of the games

948
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: that Dame said out he sprained his ankle. Yeah, so

949
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: like you're trying to build this camaraderie with your team

950
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: to get everybody messed together, but then we're also trying

951
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: to do it on the court, and it's like they

952
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: on the spotlight because Gianni's every year they look at

953
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: you. You should be in the finals, you should be trying

954
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: to win another MVP. Dame, it's time for you to

955
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: get a ring, like you know what I mean, Like

956
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: that's how they're looking at it, and like this is

957
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: the move they made to help him.

958
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Push forward towards that.

959
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: So I can't put all the blame on Doc because

960
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: it's like for sure, and you can't put all the

961
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: blame on the players because we're trying to figure out

962
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: how to play together still. I mean, like Johannis and

963
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: Damn say they watch film together, working out together and

964
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to make it better.

965
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: And then we got to try to figure out that.

966
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: We got it just to a whole new system now

967
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: so like, but it's like when you take that job,

968
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: even though you might not ask for the targets on

969
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: your back then because you have one of the best

970
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: players in the league and one of the best closes

971
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: we've ever seen.

972
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: So they like, well, you got to figure it out.

973
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: You've been in the league long enough, been around coach

974
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: a lot of superstar that you got to figure it out.

975
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: And it's like they look at it it's like you

976
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: only won one championship with all.

977
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: These great teams you had.

978
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, they also look at it

979
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: as like he's blown a lot of three one leads,

980
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So all that is the

981
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: pressure they have on Doc on top of trying to

982
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: figure out how to get all these new guys and

983
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: new team is coaching to get on one pedal stool.

984
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: But I feel like he can get it done. I

985
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: feel like he's great coach and he could figure it out.

986
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: I just think it takes time. It's only been ten games.

987
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: But I mean that's what happens when you were in

988
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: that spot. Like I kind of look at like when

989
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: I went to the Clippers, like I feel like it wasn't.

990
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: Fair to me.

991
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: I went over there and I didn't care if I

992
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: started or not. I mean, that's when think I always

993
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: wanted to get I just wanted to play basketball, like

994
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: I was happy to be able to compete. And it

995
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: was like, well, they got to get over the hump,

996
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: they got to do this. They got a big three,

997
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, it's hard because a big three,

998
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: a big three pull to start, you know what I mean.

999
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: I didn't start, which is cool. I was found that.

1000
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't upset about that. I mean, but I couldn't

1001
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: play back to backs, Kawhi couldn't play back to backs.

1002
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Then Paul George's in out of lineup with injury. So

1003
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: it's like we never had an opportunity to get a rhythm,

1004
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: find a chemistry and play together at the same time

1005
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: because it was all, oh, John Wat's coming that we

1006
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: should be better, Kawhi is coming back, but Kawhi was

1007
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: coming off injury, also coming off injury, so they had

1008
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: a plan for him, you know what I mean. So

1009
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: it wasn't like we really got to see what we

1010
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: really could have been. And we had glimpses of it

1011
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: at times, but I was on men and Kawhi I

1012
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: was on minu restriction, so it was difficult.

1013
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: It was kind of tough.

1014
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: So I kind of look at it as like t

1015
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Lude was trying to balance out and figure out how

1016
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: to do it the best way he could possible, you

1017
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And the same I feel like

1018
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: what Dot was doing, but I feel like they could

1019
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: figure it out.

1020
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: No.

1021
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I just to remind everyone the intricacy is of basketball,

1022
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: because I know the super team is definitely something that's

1023
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: being looked at, you know, with the magnifying glass now

1024
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: because some of this shit hasn't worked out, you know.

1025
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: And it's like, just like you said, Dame came from

1026
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: playing in Portland for so many years where he was

1027
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: the guy he never had a honest and like you know,

1028
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: to the general fan, they're like, oh, that's a luxury,

1029
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: but it's like no, these guys, they had these roles.

1030
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: They got to change and like what Dame got traded

1031
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: in late July early August, like he had like a

1032
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: month or two and then they got training camp. You

1033
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: got to figure that out for quick and you got

1034
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: to figure that out in game situations. So yeah, I

1035
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: think I think it's great. Like what you had just

1036
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: said is a reminder and like you said, you got

1037
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: added to the Clippers and the guys weren't healthy and

1038
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: the rotations were changing, and we saw it happy with

1039
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Russ and the Lakers, like these are Hall of famers

1040
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: being team up against each other, and we all just

1041
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: we act like we didn't see the Clippers like lose

1042
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: eight in a row when James got added to the team,

1043
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: and now they're the hottest team in the league right now.

1044
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: So I think, Yeah, it's a long season and it's

1045
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: just a great reminder it's like chemistry and a lot

1046
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: to figure out.

1047
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like everybody think like just because

1048
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: I think everybody just think this because we were basketball

1049
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: players that we night, we all supposed to just right

1050
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: work like this.

1051
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that.

1052
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: Like it takes time, you know what I mean, Like

1053
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Kawhid and PG had to get used to James having

1054
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: the ball most of the time now, you know what

1055
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Like now he's running pick and roll and

1056
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: doing the hell of a job, Like he's one of

1057
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: the best passes in the pick and roll, you know

1058
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1059
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: Like, but now James took the back seat.

1060
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not gonna score as much unless those guys

1061
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: that have an off night or unless I have to

1062
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: turn up a notch. Yeah, but most of the time

1063
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: he's probably getting ten and twelve points, but he's getting

1064
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: ten to eleven assists, you.

1065
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1066
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: Like he's orchestrating their offense, running the team, and he's

1067
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: getting those guys rolling. But I think like everybody just

1068
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: bought him to it, Like you know, everybody has to

1069
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: buy into the sister and buy into what's going on.

1070
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: And it's easier said than done. Like you know what

1071
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Like they got James in the middle of

1072
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: the season.

1073
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1074
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: It ain't like they got him had it started season

1075
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: when he went through a whole training camp with them,

1076
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: Like they're using the season as their training camp to

1077
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: get him activated with everything.

1078
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: And it's it's difficult. It's not as easy as everybody think.

1079
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: Like it's not like even when I was with the Clippers,

1080
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: like to lou hell of a coach all day, It's

1081
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: like it just was difficult because it's times he wanted

1082
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: to play me more, but I only can play twenty

1083
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: twenty two minutes, you know, I mean, it's times more I

1084
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: want to play more and I'm frustrated because I feel

1085
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: like I should be it right now, but I can.

1086
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Speaker 2: I'm at a minute restriction.

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00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: It's times when certain guys feel like they're playing well

1088
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: in practice should be getting more minutes, you know what

1089
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 3: I mean.

1090
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: Like it's always a difficult thing.

1091
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: And that's why I be saying as a coach, is

1092
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Speaker 3: you got to do a hell of a job, like

1093
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: you got to touch your foundation. And also as GM

1094
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 3: they got to do a hell of a job because

1095
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: just because I'm nice and you nice, don't mean our

1096
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: games messed together, you know what I mean, Like we

1097
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: got to really study the game understand like, Okay, are

1098
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: they really gonna be able to feed off each other

1099
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: the right way? Can he make him better? Or is

1100
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: he gonna make our team worse? And I think we

1101
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: gotta do a lot of more studying them doing that.

1102
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: Like a lot of talent out there. We're not sending

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00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: a lot of talented guys, but can a lot of

1104
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: talented guys sept the role and can a lot of

1105
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: talent guys like be veterans to some of these young guys,

1106
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Like I feel like the league need more veterans in

1107
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: the league, and not just saying because I'm out of it.

1108
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: I just feel like we need more vets for these

1109
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: young guys.

1110
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: And that's a pointing to where the GM and the

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00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: coach guys like, you know what, I'm just bringing you

1112
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: in to be a great VET like you might not play.

1113
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Are you cool with accepting that role?

1114
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: And I think that more we're upfront and honest like

1115
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: they want us to be honest with them, it makes

1116
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: everything much more easier for your team and y'all can

1117
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: go a long way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we gotta take a break. I do

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Speaker 1: want to in this podcast get more in depth of

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to point game with John Wall

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Speaker 1: and CJ. Toldano. Uh, this is a really fun game

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Speaker 1: that we we we've practiced before, but this is a

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00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: lightning round type game where we're gonna ask John not asked.

1141
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Speaker 1: We're gonna say a statement about the NBA, and if

1142
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: John agrees, he's gonna say bucket, and if he disagrees,

1143
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,920
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Speaker 1: we were talking about the Clippers in the last Act,

1150
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Your Last Team. I said, they're the hottest team in

1151
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: the league right now, and I think they have the

1152
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: third best odds to win the title at plus five hundred,

1153
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: which means if you bet one hundred, you would win

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Speaker 1: five hundred if they win the title. So Bucketer, Brick,

1155
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Speaker 1: the Clippers will win the title this year, Brick.

1156
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: I think Brick.

1157
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: It's kind of hard because I want to say Bucket

1158
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: did I want to say Brick? Because there are the

1159
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: hottest team. Hell of a coach in t lou you

1160
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like he knows what he's doing,

1161
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: He's done it before.

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00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: I know.

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00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: Kawhi is the closer. He's won two finals MVPs. I

1164
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: just think they need a full year together to like

1165
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: get what they really want out of it. But I

1166
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: think they're gonna have a chance to get close though.

1167
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, you know, the Clippers

1169
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of fall apart in the playoffs, and a lot

1170
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: of that is health. So like, how much do you

1171
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: think that's on their mind or they're like just.

1172
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: I think health is always the key to any team.

1173
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: I mean, like being healthy, going into the playoffs and

1174
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: going to the finals is the key to any team,

1175
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I feel like that

1176
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: it's luck, like you got to ask some luck to

1177
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 3: win the championship, healthy and playing well at the right time.

1178
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: But I think there's like it's just like a burden,

1179
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: like a lot of pressure on the Clippers, you know

1180
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like because everybody feel like with Kawhi

1181
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: and PG, they should have been to the finals or

1182
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: won one by now, but like you said, like they

1183
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: had it's always been an injury in the playoffs, the

1184
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: ejurine here, injured deer or then you have the bubble,

1185
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like where a lot of

1186
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: guys probably just checked out, Like I didn't go to

1187
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: the bubble, but I know that would have been difficult

1188
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: been there way for your family, not doing nothing but

1189
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: the same stuff complete constantly over and over. So I

1190
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: think that's a pressure there, in a burn there. But

1191
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: they have the team, they have the talent, they have

1192
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: the depth, they have the coaching staff to be able

1193
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: to win it all. So that's why it was kind

1194
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: of hard to say brick, because I wanted to say, Bucket,

1195
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: but I feel like they get a whole year on

1196
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: themselves of knowing what they want to do.

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00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I think they'll get one.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you later on this season. I think, yeah,

1199
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: your opinion might change. So yeah, okay, next.

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00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: A little bit, I see a little bit more high

1201
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: like how the second happened the season going, I probably change.

1202
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Bucket or Brick. This rumor has been going around,

1203
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: but the Lakers should sign Trey Young this summer.

1204
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: Hmm, Bucket, I think Bucket. I feel like Trey's done

1205
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: a lot in Atlanta. He's very talented man, you know.

1206
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean like it's one of those guys that it's

1207
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: hard to guard, you know, I mean the league now,

1208
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: you can't touch anybody.

1209
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: He's crafty, he can shoot the pass.

1210
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: And I think they got to kind of start with

1211
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: paying for like if Lebron's last year is this year,

1212
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: next year, whenever it is, that you got another star

1213
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: player next to Ad. And I feel like a pick

1214
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: and roll with a D and a guy like Trey

1215
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: Young could be Dad, you know what I mean. Look

1216
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: how he's made compel to look and all these other guys.

1217
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: So I think that'd be a good move for them.

1218
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: Okay, next one bucket or brick. The Warriors should resign

1219
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson because I think people are saying that Clay

1220
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: had has been going through a little bit of a falloff.

1221
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: So Warriors re signing Clay Thompson this summer.

1222
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm gonna say both.

1223
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why it's fifty to fifty because

1224
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: if they want Clay to come out the bench, I

1225
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: don't think he's willing to accept that role Brett.

1226
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1227
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he might take a pay cut,

1228
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's want to be able to

1229
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: accept that role coming off the bench, you know what

1230
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: I mean. But I think if he takes a pay

1231
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: cut and start, I think he's willing to stay with

1232
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: the Warriors.

1233
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: But that's the decision they got to make as a

1234
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: front off, you know what I mean.

1235
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Speaker 3: Like, I kind of think they have been going ups

1236
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: and downs because it's difficult when you're being at this

1237
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: spotlight and been at the level where he's been at

1238
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: for so long and won championships, and you have two

1239
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: major injuries, you know what I mean. Then in some

1240
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: days you have your days that you feel good some

1241
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 3: days you don't have your days like I've been there,

1242
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: and it's kind of difficult. I think he responded to

1243
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: well though, coming off the bench and having the hell

1244
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: of a night and helping them win that game. You know,

1245
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: you just got to kind of see how the second

1246
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: half of the season goes.

1247
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Do you think any of that is due to like

1248
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: maybe there's a change of scenery or like a I

1249
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: don't know, a fatigue on a dynasty team, like they've

1250
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: been trying to figure out their bench and whatnot. Like

1251
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: do you think Clay just seems that change of scenery?

1252
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: And not to talk about the Lakers again, but like

1253
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: if he was to end up on the Lakers next year,

1254
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, a team that he grew up loving his

1255
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: dad played from, do you think there would be any

1256
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: resurgence there?

1257
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

1258
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I think so, you know what I mean, Sometimes you

1259
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: might need to change your scenery. You never know.

1260
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: But also I think it's kind of difficult now because

1261
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: you have the young fellow john the communicy that's taking

1262
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: the next step, and now instead of Clay being the

1263
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: second option, it's Johnny Comita being the second option, you

1264
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean, So kind of throw the ball

1265
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: to him in the post. He's not just waiting and

1266
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: holding the ball for pinned downs. For Stephan Clay, he's

1267
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: been aggressive and trying to go score. So now it

1268
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: kind of puts Clay into the third option maybe fourth

1269
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: option if you want to say, at times, and I can't.

1270
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: I think there's something he's trying to adjust to in

1271
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: the middle of a season instead of like because earlier

1272
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: on in the beginning season, that wasn't a role for JOHNA. Commick,

1273
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, I mean he kind of got into that

1274
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: role later on because his name was buzzing a lot

1275
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: doing the trade dead lines and seeing if they was

1276
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: gonna move him because a lot of teams wanted them.

1277
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: And I know how special in talent he is.

1278
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: He came to my John Wall Holliday Invitational tournament played

1279
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: he played against one of the best high scall teams

1280
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: I think I've seen with Mount Verne with Scottie barn

1281
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: and k Cunnahim and them, and he did well, you know,

1282
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he's talent gifted, got a lot of stuff.

1283
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: I just did.

1284
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: Like you said, like the Warriors didn't know which way

1285
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: they wanted to go, keep young talent, keep the big

1286
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: three together.

1287
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: And keep trying to build.

1288
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: So they're figuring it out and I think Mike Delly

1289
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: be doing a hell of a job with that and

1290
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr.

1291
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, final bucket brick And I've been actually

1292
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: reading some stories on this and I think, yeah, you

1293
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: answered as honestly as you want, but the bucket or brick,

1294
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns should sign you.

1295
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: The bucket.

1296
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it a g not just because like,

1297
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: and this is what I want to get across the

1298
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: chest for anybody. Like I don't care about chasing the ring,

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Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like if I get one,

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Speaker 3: thank you. But I feel like I've showed out talent

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Speaker 3: diam in this league, how good aim in this league.

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Speaker 3: I just love to play the game of basketball, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I still feel like I have enoughing

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Speaker 3: to tank to play. It might not be at the

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Speaker 3: highest level like I was playing thirty eight to forty

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Speaker 3: minutes before, but I feel like I can do a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm a better catching shoot guy than a lot of

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Speaker 3: people think, Like I didn't get a lot of those

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Speaker 3: in my career, but when I do, I shoot like.

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Speaker 2: Forty percent from catch and shoot.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I just feel like they need a true

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Speaker 3: point guard, you know, I mean to help those guys

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Speaker 3: just settle in, like deep books doing the hell of

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Speaker 3: a job playing point. Brad does it at times. But

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Speaker 3: those guys are bona fide scores, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like you put them bout anybody hands for thirty eight mins,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have nine ten assists. I mean, they just

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Speaker 3: making the right play playing basketball. But I think those

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Speaker 3: guys just need to be bon to five scores and

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Speaker 3: don't worry about keeping the next guy happy. That should

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Speaker 3: be a true point guard's position. Let the scores be scores.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I want you back in the league.

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Speaker 1: Is you know, we see the player's evolution, right, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't think we've really honestly gotten to see

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Speaker 1: the role player evolution for you. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: like and I guess ask let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Are you still talking to Brads Brad you know, hitting

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Speaker 1: you up? Or are you guys talking at all about possibilities?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys just still you know, talking about.

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Speaker 3: Now we just talked. We just talked from time to time.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't even try to put that pressure or

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Speaker 3: burning on them about it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like if I'm in a city, like I was in

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Speaker 3: La visiting and they was playing, I want to go

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Speaker 3: visit the game, you know what I mean. Like I'm

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Speaker 3: not putting that pressure on him or KD or D Book,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm cool with all those guys, but they focus

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Speaker 3: is locking in on the season right now, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if the front office come them, like

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Speaker 3: do you want to sign them? I hope they will

1341
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Speaker 3: say yeah. But if the front office is not doing that,

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Speaker 3: then I'm not going to try to put that burden

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Speaker 3: on them guys and put that pressure because now I

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00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 3: look at it, it's like, oh damn, you ain't trying

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Speaker 3: to get me signed, and I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: your homebok. Like that's never gonna come between, you know

1347
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Speaker 3: what I mean. Like that's not their role, that's not

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Speaker 3: their job. But I just feel like I can help

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Speaker 3: them out a lot. I mean I feel like I

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Speaker 3: could and maybe if it's not this year, maybe next year.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean hopefully you never know what can happen.

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Speaker 3: But I just sit back and look like I'm like,

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00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 3: you can't make a point guard like point guards are made,

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00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like you can't just try

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Speaker 3: to build a point guard to be a true point guard,

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Speaker 3: like those guys are made. I think you look at

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Speaker 3: the Clippers at times they wanted PG and Kawhi. It

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Speaker 3: kind of be like run a lot of picking rolls

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Speaker 3: be they point guards. Those guys are BONA five bucket getters.

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Speaker 3: They might get you for SIS sixty sixty if you

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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: double teaming them, but those guys are BONA five bucket getters,

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 2: Think that made they roll so much more easier.

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Speaker 3: James is the one that's facilitating running the team, getting

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Speaker 3: everybody's shots when they need to, and we're gonna carry

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Speaker 3: it load on the score.

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Speaker 1: Yea. All right, Well, John man, this has been exciting,

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Speaker 1: Like I want you to get signed, but I'm happy

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Speaker 1: you're here with us and we're doing this thing for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. So keep checking out Point

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Speaker 1: Game presented by DraftKings. I'm CJ. Toldano. Shout out to

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