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Speaker 2: Do you smell what I'm cooking? You probably do. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is Easton Allen. This is the I Am and

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Speaker 2: podcast I Smell Pop Culture one eleven productions. I Heard Radio,

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Speaker 2: I Heard Media, I Heard podcasts. Thanks again for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited this one. We're going back to the

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Speaker 2: very first moment of Gilmore Girls for this interview.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to someone very important that has a connection

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Speaker 2: to the very first frame of Gilmore Girls that you

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Speaker 2: it got me thinking about the importance of a theme song,

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Speaker 2: the importance of an intro. You know, I'm personally I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna let you into my world a little bit. My

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Speaker 2: name is Easton and I'm hosting this show. And you know,

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Speaker 2: so let's let's get to know me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I love theme songs. I listen to theme songs for

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Speaker 2: pleasure on my playlist right now I have I just

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Speaker 2: listened to the Entertainment Tonight theme song that doesn't even

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Speaker 2: have any lyrics. That's just the trumpets. I love theme

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Speaker 2: songs so much. I think they are so important and

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Speaker 2: I think that they they produce a feeling within you

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Speaker 2: that normal songs cannot. And I don't know what that

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Speaker 2: says about my brain, but like, there are so many

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Speaker 2: my playlist. I think theme songs are so important. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious what your favorite theme songs are. You leave a

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Speaker 2: tell me what your favorite theme songs of all time are.

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Speaker 2: The theme song to Gilmore Girls, of Course, is where

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Speaker 2: But if you go back to the pilot episode, it

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, So when we do that, when we toss

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Speaker 2: to commercials, I just want everyone listening. While you're listening

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Speaker 2: I'm there with you. I am in the trenches. This

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Speaker 2: is Easton Allen. It's the I AML and podcasts. I

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Speaker 2: smell pop culture. We're talking about theme songs at the

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Speaker 2: they set the mood for a TV show, for a movie.

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Speaker 2: If you go back to the pilot of Gilmore Girls,

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Speaker 2: There she Goes by the Laws. That's a song that

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have covered it over the years.

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Speaker 2: We're such big fans. I mean, you're such an icon.

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Speaker 2: Your songs are such an integral part of popular culture.

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Speaker 2: But I want to go back to the beginning. I

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Speaker 3: It was Patsy Kline and Willie Nelson. Because I grew

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Speaker 3: Little bit more singer songwriter esque kind of stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But how did Sixpence on the Richer start? Like, how

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Speaker 3: He and I met in like nineteen ninety two. I

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Speaker 3: that was a very humble beginning. He just literally handed

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Speaker 3: And then as far as sixpence in our sound, I

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Speaker 2: You know, as you got on this tour and you're

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Speaker 3: I don't want to insult them. They're not children, but

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Speaker 3: it's amazing and really a full circle moment for us

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it so much. Lee Nash from Sixpence

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Speaker 2: here with Lee Nash from Sixpence None the Richer. So

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Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety eight, you release kiss Me hit number

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Speaker 2: How did that song come together?

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Speaker 2: those those tapes that when people come up to you

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Speaker 2: on the street if people recognize you, what is it

432
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Speaker 2: more kiss me?

433
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Speaker 1: Is it more? There she goes? What do people say? First?

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Speaker 3: I really don't get we I live with out in

435
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: the country, so I really get a lot of people

436
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: approaching me. But on the road it's like the people

437
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: that I'm meeting after the shows. It goes a little

438
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: deeper than the hits. Oh yeah, But when it's when

439
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: it's kissed me or there she goes, it's usually kissed me.

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Speaker 2: Because Yeah, there's a lot of people online that have

441
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: like a it's it's kind of bandella effect. It's like

442
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Speaker 2: a false ma. They swear that kiss Me was in

443
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls. Like there's a lot of people that really

444
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: believe that because it and it wasn't. But uh, vibe wise,

445
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: it does. It does really work. Do you think that

446
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: song would have fit in Gilmore Girls?

447
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Speaker 1: Oh?

448
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, And I don't know why it wasn't. It

449
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: almost seems like maybe it was intentional, like this song

450
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: is too everywhere right now? And Gilmore Girls had a

451
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 3: very cool specific soundtrack and Sam Phillips did she do

452
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: all the music for it? For the most part? Am

453
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Speaker 3: I wrong about that?

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Speaker 1: No? That's that's that's correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, I think that they just they went

456
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Speaker 3: for you know, frankly no, I mean, kiss Me is

457
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: super cool, but those Gilmore Girls, I think they kept

458
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: it fresh that way.

459
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Speaker 2: What so you told me before we started that you

460
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Speaker 2: you are a fan of Gilmore Girls, Like, what what

461
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: stands out to you about that show?

462
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: What did you like about it?

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Speaker 3: I think it was the the characters in it, the

464
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: character to do it. But sorry, I got I got

465
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: completely distracted. Let me get them gather. I like the

466
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: relationship between the mother and the daughter was pretty epic,

467
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: and you don't really get that a lot in shows now.

468
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: The writing was brilliant, so yeah, and it's kind of

469
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: like putting on a warm blanket, you know. Yeah, it's

470
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: just comfort comfort watching.

471
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: Especially this time of years. So it's so great for that.

472
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Speaker 2: We talk a lot on this show about the relationships

473
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: between mothers and daughters, because again, that is like what

474
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Speaker 2: Gomar Girls is about.

475
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Speaker 1: Are you close with your own mother?

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Speaker 3: I am extremely close with her and my sister, which

477
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Speaker 3: I know there's not a sister in it, but their

478
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: relationship was a little sister mother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Do you have a do you have

480
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: a fun memory with your sister?

481
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Speaker 1: You'd like to share with us. I love hearing that

482
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

483
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: My sister and I guess this is probably a pretty

484
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: common thing. But we would fight to the point that

485
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: it upset our mother, and then we would laugh at

486
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: her and turn her, which I think it's a phenomenon

487
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: that occurs more than just in my little creepy family.

488
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, we would. I mean, how evil is that?

489
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: Just a couple of headed turds just making our mom

490
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: cry and then laughing at her about it. So funny,

491
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Speaker 3: So holds up.

492
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Speaker 2: There's nothing better than a common enemy when you're when

493
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: you're doing that kind of thing. So so you're saying,

494
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, Gil Wrigols does feel like a warm blanket.

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: It's a very comforting show. We're in the holiday season now,

496
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: and uh in sixpence on the Richer has a new

497
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: single out called I Believe In Father Christmas.

498
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that song?

499
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we recorded a couple of new songs to go

500
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: on this re release of The Dawn of Grace, which

501
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: comes out tomorrow. The re release does digitally, and and

502
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I Believe In Father Christmas is an old

503
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: Greg Lake song and you too covered it and it's

504
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: just a Really it's a really great Christmas song. It's

505
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: a little dark if you really listen to the words.

506
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: It's not you know, super happy, it's it's more, you know,

507
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: like one of the lines, and it is the Christmas

508
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: we get we deserve. Yeah, and it feels right for

509
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: the times a little bit, just you know, just we've

510
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: got to remember to good humans and not just take

511
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: everything for granted.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I love I love a Christmas song with an

513
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: edge too. That's that's that's so fun. So the Dawn

514
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: of Grace, that's the reissue. It's it's out now. As

515
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: this releases, it'll be out. You can hear it. And uh,

516
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: and you guys are on the road for the We

517
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Are Love twenty fifth anniversary tour. And I saw on

518
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Instagram you're gonna be streaming the Troubadour Show live.

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00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Is that right?

520
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: Hi? Yes, so excited about that. That'll be our first

521
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: ever international live concert. So yeah, I really hope we

522
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: don't mess it up. It's gonna be great.

523
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure.

524
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm so excited. It'll be the the last

525
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: date of the tour and we'll be will be good

526
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Speaker 3: to go. Excited.

527
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: What a way to close it out and you can

528
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: get info on that at sixpence and on the Richer

529
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: dot com. Wherever you are you can tune in and

530
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: watch them live. But but you guys are gonna be

531
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Speaker 2: all over the country. Yeah, as we record this year

532
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: in Orlando, but you're playing all over the South. You're

533
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: going to Denver, San Francisco, as we mentioned, Seattle, and

534
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: the tour dates I imagine are up at your website

535
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: as well, is that right.

536
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: That's right. Yes, you can see them on instagram page

537
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: and also on our website also.

538
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean six months on the rich such an important

539
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: and iconic band. You got to go see them live

540
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: if you haven't before, and even if you have before,

541
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: you got to see them again. Thank you so much

542
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: for your time today, Lee Nash. This has been so

543
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: much fun. Good but personally, thank you for the music

544
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: that you make just from the bomb of my heart.

545
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that with the world. It's so

546
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: important and it's affected me and so many other people.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That means the world. It really does.

548
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at

549
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: I Am All In podcast and email us at Gilmore

550
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Speaker 2: at iHeartRadio dot com,