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Speaker 1: I listened to the black guy who tips because Rod

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Speaker 1: and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout tost podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rod, join us always by my co host.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the new year. It's starting off with literal bangs?

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Speaker 2: Is it's scary here outside?

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Okay? Oh well, you've just been watching anime

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Speaker 1: all day?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: I sure have?

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Speaker 2: The rhythm is back. Oh shit, it's the old days

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Speaker 2: out here. Were about to bring back the damn terror alert.

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Speaker 1: We've got to be back. No colors again, red yellow.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck that ship. Were about to bring the

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Speaker 2: whole rainbow back. It's crazy out here. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: it in a second. The official weapon of the show

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Speaker 2: is folding chill. That's right, the unofficial sport and bulet

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Speaker 2: bar extreme extreme extreme extreme. Did you have any banter

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Speaker 2: before we get into the rest of the stuff.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, but I guess it's all right. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any.

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Speaker 4: Talk to me?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter, banter, banter? Do

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Speaker 2: you have any banter?

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Speaker 1: Talk to me? Do you have any banter?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, player, they it's two but they kind of

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Speaker 3: all bland together.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go ahead and drop drop them off.

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Speaker 3: One of the first ones. I joked about this online

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Speaker 3: and I'm so glad I did this. Uh. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure I've turned my phone off

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Speaker 3: before I go to sleep, because I don't give a

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Speaker 3: damn about your happy New Year text until I wake

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Speaker 3: up because a lot of times them alerts and your

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Speaker 3: phone going on a lot of them, yeah, and waking

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Speaker 3: you up for the people that's up. So I'm glad

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Speaker 3: I turned them bitches off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Randolph and the air Friar Consortium, the group I'm

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Speaker 2: part of on my.

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Speaker 1: Text chain that you know, and and I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I liked the black men having fun, black men and

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Speaker 2: Gregorio having fun and celebrating the New Year's and brothers

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Speaker 2: was taking pictures, were holding their wine and saying, you

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Speaker 2: know how much the group meant to them, and and

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Speaker 2: all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And that was very dope.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, the only problem being I was in bed

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Speaker 2: by ten knocked them out. I had a busy day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I got up, I did.

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Speaker 1: My my workout early.

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Speaker 2: I had to do an early podcast with the Locked

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Speaker 2: on Hornets. Check out Locked on Hornets if you're a

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Speaker 2: basketball fan and the Charlotte Hornets fan or a Rod

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Speaker 2: Morrow fan. Because I was on the latest episode and

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Speaker 2: that was very fun. Y'all know my brand of optimistic

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Speaker 2: sports fan enthusiasm, enthusiasm, it was, you know, it's very

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Speaker 2: But then I you know, between that and then we

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, and I was just so tired. I

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Speaker 1: That You're right.

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Speaker 2: I could have put my phone on do not disturb. Now,

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Speaker 2: Lucky for me, I don't have my phone sound on

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Speaker 3: And I know people don't mean no harm, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you got some of them family texts that I got

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Speaker 3: on I've muted a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Family text.

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Speaker 3: You look like twenty five people had the people in there.

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Speaker 3: You just got random A's phone numbers. I learned how

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, and that's great, you know, but

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Speaker 2: I think just by never really responding, I don't really

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Speaker 1: I used to get in them.

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Speaker 2: But also, like, my family is very rude sometimes, and

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Speaker 2: about a four to five text limit before motherfuckers start

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Speaker 2: getting mad at you, yes.

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Speaker 1: And say take me off this text. Them be like,

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Speaker 2: Because people be trying, you know, because my family's also

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Speaker 2: Then you got the you know, you got that person

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Speaker 2: ha ha you know that. But then but then you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: then you got your Facebook meme people that post like,

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Speaker 2: and be like, it's three in the morning, you coming

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Speaker 1: What you gonna do? You know that nigga is the

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Speaker 1: family thread? What's wrong with you? Yeah? I thought this

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Speaker 2: And then my favorite is the people that is the

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Speaker 2: I mean this, you know, like it's liked to rhymen

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Speaker 2: shall weep together in the joyous morning of the Lord.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be like, what I know, We're about two

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Speaker 3: Yes, And then and then you got the people who

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Speaker 1: How did I end up in this group chat with

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Speaker 2: I kind of be excited because I know the cussing

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Speaker 1: Yes, because we damn say how you really feel, you

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Speaker 2: About three texts, like everybody stops texting. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: of never ever respond to that shit.

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Speaker 1: I got to that point too, they like, is this

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Speaker 1: And and just know I ain't got no time for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was at I took my walk, like about a

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Speaker 2: It was I walked slow and I was passing people

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Speaker 3: I feel like that must be people in their life,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where that baby, how that baby knew.

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Speaker 3: The dath to that baby that I was that I

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Speaker 2: But I was like, I am cool, And I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: So shout out to that baby. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You were adorable. Oh and.

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Speaker 3: My last one is like I say, kind of connect

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Speaker 3: I know that I'm old, and actually, like I say,

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Speaker 3: over and we right on back to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got used to it.

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Speaker 2: It was like they started shooting guns at like seven,

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Speaker 2: like soon as the sun went down.

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Speaker 1: They were shooting guns out.

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Speaker 2: Here, And it was like, I don't know how this

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Speaker 2: shit happens to me. Every fucking year. It happens to

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Speaker 2: me every year. It's gonna happen to me again July fourth,

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Speaker 2: By the way, every motherfucking year, I forget they're gonna

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Speaker 1: And every year they start shooting guns. And I'd be like,

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Speaker 2: Because the way physics work, bullets gotta come down somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yes they do.

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Speaker 3: Right, random person gott getting hit by bullet and don't

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Speaker 2: We live in such a stupid ass country. I don't

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Speaker 2: And then it's like, well, what do you use your

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Speaker 2: like we all get a show. You shoot a gun

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Speaker 2: the New Year's celebrations, we you know, it was.

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Speaker 1: A wash New Year's for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was fine with that, and I was

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Speaker 3: content with that. I haven't been up for New Year's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't mind it.

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Speaker 2: I normally am up for New Year's because I normally

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Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't going nowhere your they were busy,

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Speaker 2: I had my I was seated in at the house,

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't getting drunk, none of that stuff. That

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing I did was I think I had

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Speaker 1: What a celebration year, you know, great for me. My

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Speaker 1: last thing is this I was.

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Speaker 2: After all these years of listening to this song, I

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Speaker 2: still have no idea of what the.

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Speaker 1: Mac was returning from. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I suspect he was returning to was mackin. But it's

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Speaker 2: whatever he was returning from is not in the song.

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Speaker 2: It's not in the song now, of course, I asked.

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Speaker 2: So I brought up this joke on social media, and

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Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't possibly be, like Rod is such a funny person.

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Speaker 2: That must be one of his jokes. No, they wn't

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Speaker 2: did the research and they told me. I didn't look

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Speaker 2: the dude that made the song Mark whatever his last

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Speaker 2: name is, Okay, he had went to jail and his

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Speaker 2: girl cheated on him, and then when he came out

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Speaker 2: on the streets, and like his whole album was about

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Speaker 2: going to jail and coming back out.

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Speaker 1: I never heard the whole album.

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Speaker 2: I only heard that one song same a million billion

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Speaker 2: times like the rest of us, and so I didn't

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Speaker 2: was like, damn, he do sound mad like his macan

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Speaker 2: feels a little bit man of spirit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does.

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Speaker 3: It. It's a lot of songs. Was like, oh, that's

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Speaker 3: a cute song. You were like, no, dog, this is

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Speaker 3: a stoking song. This is a manuspriit, Like, have you

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Speaker 3: really listening to some of the lyrics, you'll be like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't sound like like when I listened to it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't sound like he was returning on some like

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Speaker 2: it was fun. It sounded like he was on a mission.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know you lie to me all those times,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I loved you. You lied to me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I tried, I tried. That's turn up, Mac.

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Speaker 2: That don't sound like that sounded like them dates he

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Speaker 2: going on. It's gonna be a lot of women. Like

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Speaker 3: Ex right like, oh, child, a child. I had to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought he was handsome, but I

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Speaker 2: mean all he wanted to say was that his last

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Speaker 2: my phone.

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Speaker 1: Right, he broke out his song, Girl, I can't deal

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Speaker 1: with that, Like his heart was still broke when he

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Speaker 1: was returning to Mackin. It wasn't no was no healing,

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Speaker 2: Right, you lied to me even though you knew why

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Speaker 2: died for you.

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Speaker 1: You lied to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I cried, Yes, I cried turn back. That's not

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Speaker 2: that's not half, that's not.

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Speaker 1: Not a good song. Yeah, that's not a cheerful returning.

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that if you're home,

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Speaker 2: y'all about to go to the club, and y'all homie

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Speaker 2: start talking like this, you want.

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Speaker 1: To sit him down. But like go to the club.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe we need to sit in the house

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Catch this chill tonight.

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Speaker 1: What do we just go to a nice dinner hour.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a lounge. Yeah? What, me and you?

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Speaker 1: Just me and you, we just go out and we

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Speaker 2: Man, I thought that was I thought that was axe

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Speaker 2: body sprayery. Them looked like tears on your shirt, right,

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Speaker 2: you like you look like you've been crying.

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Speaker 1: Are you okay? We need to have a conversation. Your

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Speaker 1: eyes is red? Serf. I mean, I'm your friend. You

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why I've never thought about this.

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Speaker 2: I guess because the song such a bob and then

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Speaker 2: I'll be singing hard to the song. But I don't

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Speaker 2: be thinking about the song. But this man, this man

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Speaker 2: was on some fresh and fit Buddy was Buddy was

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Speaker 2: Buddy was about to be calling them females and bitch

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Speaker 2: and he was.

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Speaker 1: Real close to it. He was.

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Speaker 2: He went from Queen the bitch the next woman was

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Speaker 2: about to be paying the price. They was. These holes

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Speaker 2: ain't ship right? This Mark Morrison was out here.

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Speaker 1: He was out here. It was acting angry. He was like,

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Speaker 1: all these females, just won't you for your money? Y'all?

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Speaker 1: Like ship Return of the Mac sounded like a threat.

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Speaker 1: Don't it know? The Mac looking for you? What? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Child had me? They God, he couldn't rap.

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Speaker 1: Who knows that song? Would?

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Speaker 2: It sounded like, all right, that's it for my band?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well then let's get into some some news.

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Speaker 1: Uh take a random beat so you can do this

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Speaker 2: I like this be but it takes thirty seconds to start.

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Speaker 2: I gotta remember that next time. All right, let's get

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Speaker 2: into the news, Like I said, crazy news starting off

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Speaker 2: the the year okay, okay. The first thing is there

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Speaker 2: was a terrorist attack where ten people were killed thirty

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Speaker 2: people were injured after a car plowed into.

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Speaker 1: On a New Orleans crowd on Bourbon Street.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, and then the guy got out the

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Speaker 2: Police do not believe he acted alone, as they also

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Speaker 2: found like three or four explosive devices that were wired

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Speaker 2: three or four people place those those explosive devices on

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Speaker 1: And then like walk away.

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Speaker 2: So like they don't think this guy acted alone, and

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Speaker 2: they're still looking for him. He rented a Airbnb which

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Speaker 2: caught fire the morning of the attack, maybe trying to

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Speaker 2: cover his tracks. He rented the car, the truck off

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Speaker 2: of this this place called like tour something like, I

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Speaker 2: forget the name of the app. But so it's not

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Speaker 2: like you know things that make it harder to trace you.

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Speaker 2: Although they do know his name, they know he's from Texas.

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Speaker 2: He's forty two. He's a US citizen from Texas. Of course,

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Speaker 2: political people tried to politicize it immediately, this is what

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Speaker 2: just stupid shit, right, irrelevant, before you could even find

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Speaker 2: out what happened. Turns out he's a US citizen from Texas.

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Speaker 2: He's two years old. They were saying something about him

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Speaker 2: having an ISIS flag, which I was like, oh, buddy,

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Speaker 2: was a throwback.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Though it sound weird to say it, but like I

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Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't know Ices was still out here

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Speaker 2: playing the hits. I thought there was done, you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, I thought Ice is that's like Jack bowershit,

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Speaker 2: Like we're going back.

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Speaker 1: To twenty four right, I didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn uh. But yeah, so you know, we looking

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Speaker 2: at everything else. It turns out, you know, the old

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Speaker 2: school terrorism could still get you.

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Speaker 1: You got radicalized somehow. Yes, he did somebody's message board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what I thought.

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Speaker 2: Here's what's crazy though, not that this isn't crazy, but

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Speaker 2: here's what's the craziest part. So tonight, there's supposed to

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Speaker 2: be a football game, I think the Sugar Bowl in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, which is one of the reasons a lot

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Speaker 2: of people is down there, right, not just for just that.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The way that this was reported was so interesting because

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Speaker 2: that they distinguished that the people that were killed and

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Speaker 2: that they were victimized were mostly locals. And I'm and

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Speaker 2: then they weren't they were gonna play the game. They

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Speaker 2: just announced maybe a couple hours ago, they're actually gonna

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Speaker 2: postpone it to Thursday. But at first everything they were

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Speaker 2: going to just play this fucking game, like this tragedy

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00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: was like, this is just what happens. This is part

442
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: of it, and you know it's and it's like, y'all

443
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: need to secure the scene, y'all, Like y'all don't. At

444
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: the time, they clearly didn't know he had accomplishes yet,

445
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: so like, how can you even promise that.

446
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: Everything is gonna just be going as normal.

447
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: That's somebody making decision, going there's too much money in town.

448
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: I just write and I And the thing that felt

449
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: so callous to me was distinguishing that these were locals.

450
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: I think they did that in the same way that

451
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: in almost like when there's a mass shooting, but it's

452
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 2: a shooting at a party and it's because someone got

453
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: kicked out the party earlier and da da da, and

454
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: so they like to distinguish that to be like, this

455
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: isn't terrorism, this is anything. Be scared of. Everyone just operate.

456
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: This didn't happen to this couldn't have happened to you,

457
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 2: you don't go to the gay club. So this is

458
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: a gay this is a gay attack. It's not really

459
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: about just regular people go on with your life. That's

460
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: how it felt like they were trying to dismiss it,

461
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: which is a very callous thing. But of course as

462
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: more information comes in, it's like, no, you can't say

463
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: everyone's safe. There's three or four more people on the loose.

464
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: You don't know who else he was working with. And

465
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: there's more shit that I have to say about another

466
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: thing that happened today, but go ahead, okay.

467
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: And it's also one of those things where you go,

468
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: that's this one, and you basically have another event that

469
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: has gonna have a lot of people at it moving around.

470
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: You don't know if that other location is at target too,

471
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: Like does just keep that real? You just don't know.

472
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 3: And yeah, whoever made that decision initially was financially and

473
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: somebody was like somebody with some sense came in say no,

474
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: the fuck you don't.

475
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: So it's interesting you say financially. It's interesting you say

476
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: that because I'm I'm what does that look like to you?

477
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: Someone saying financially, we're gonna make this decision? Do you

478
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: think like a call was made to be like police,

479
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: you need to just tell them go ahead about business

480
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: as usual.

481
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: What do you think happened? It could be it could

482
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: be a number of things.

483
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: When I said, financially, who I think whoever over is

484
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: over the bowl, I think the people over the bowl

485
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: didn't give a fuck about what the police was talking about.

486
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: I know that I know.

487
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is the information eventially came from police,

488
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: this idea of like it was just locals. They called

489
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: it an event at first, not terrorism.

490
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: They didn't mention any plans to cancel anything.

491
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: It just like the reason I'm I'm bringing this point

492
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: up is as much as you know and I get it,

493
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: capitalism is evil, big money corporations.

494
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: Blah blah.

495
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: Right, it feels like you don't even need to instruct

496
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: people because it's like, hey, status quo.

497
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Because I truly do believe once we.

498
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: Started letting mass murders happen on the daily in America

499
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: at our schools, even once we started letting that happen,

500
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: and with the rest of us went on with our lives.

501
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: No tragedies, no acknowledgment, no funeral services on our news channels.

502
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: We just pretend that this stuff does not happen unless

503
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: it unless it's something very jarring that happens the very

504
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: tiny kids, and then in that case, we blame the

505
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: police for being cowards or something, and then we still

506
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: move on like there's nothing to be done. We still

507
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: elect and put people in power that actually pour gasoline

508
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: on the fire of gun of gun terrorism in America,

509
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: And so part of me wonders if there isn't even

510
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: a call made, just the police are like until we

511
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: see some information that tells us we need to continue

512
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: to look for more people or that we're not safe,

513
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna just.

514
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: Tell people that it is safe. And then oh, oh.

515
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: Shit, guys, now that we looked at the footage, it's

516
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: actually three to four more people out there, And maybe

517
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 2: can we have a game two days from now?

518
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: Can we have it tomorrow?

519
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Which is still kind of weird, right, like the game

520
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: is now tomorrow, Like, how can you even really be

521
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: sure if these people are on the loose, How can

522
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: you even be sure people are safe tomorrow.

523
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I could see either

524
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: scenario happen. I could see the bold people not contacting

525
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: them and they looking at the police and the police

526
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: said everything final, Well, Bins, we got the ball in,

527
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: you know, like they I could see them base what

528
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying them basically, and I could also see them

529
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: either regardless of what the police was gonna say, unless

530
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: the police told them their event was not safe, they

531
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: were gonna have it anyway.

532
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: Because it's a show.

533
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: And so now your show is gonna be interrupted because

534
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: guess what, motherfuckers, I take their ass is home and

535
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: they're not gonna bet they're not gonna be inten. So

536
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: your bowl tomor role whenever they're gonna happen, it might

537
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: not be as full.

538
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: And I don't expect the I don't expect ESPN to

539
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: necessarily care care right, but like today you could tell us.

540
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: I'll turn on the TV.

541
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: This thing had already happened, right, And I saw that,

542
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: and I didn't know it had happened. I just turned

543
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: on ESPN to see, like, I guess they're gonna talk

544
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: about the college bowl games upcoming, and that's that's really

545
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: all they were talking about. And then like I think

546
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: when they came back from commercial one time, they were like,

547
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: and we do want to acknowledge that there was a

548
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: tragedy today and I was like, oh, tragedy, there's like

549
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: a player get heard or something. They're like, yeah, some

550
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: ten people died, thirty people got ran over by this car.

551
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: A man shot with police, he was killed by the cops.

552
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all really visiting up here for an hour

553
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: not talking about that and then coming back to be like,

554
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: let's mention this real quick.

555
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: But they don't worry, guys. The game is still happening.

556
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: Yes, because here in America everything is a production, like

557
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: like like literally everything is a production, and most of

558
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: the shit we assume it's some form of entertainment slash

559
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: television slash pretend world. And I do believe that Americans

560
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: in general have been desensitized to this just in general,

561
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: we like, in general, we have been desensitized from our

562
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: kids to the adults, like nobody actually gives a fuck

563
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: unless it's directly impact you in your local community, unless

564
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: you know somebody that dies, like directly the average person contacts.

565
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: It's like they made it where you have to continue.

566
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: To move on because if you consistently responded to it,

567
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: you woul could be in a forever perpetual sadness. Yes, yes, yes,

568
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: And so in order to not try and find it,

569
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: to walk out your front door in the morning and

570
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: to function. You really it's sad, but you also have

571
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: to turn that part of your brain off.

572
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: And this boils down.

573
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: To what I've said before. It is the popular It's

574
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: his fault. The people that vote. You vote people in

575
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: office that would put a stop to this shit. You

576
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 3: put them in power, You give them the numbers, you

577
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: give them the authority to do the shit that you

578
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: won't done. You don't, so when you don't, this is

579
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: the result of that.

580
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely is part. That's so that is part of it.

581
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 2: In general, I would still say with individual actors, I

582
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: don't know, because there's other countries where people take cars

583
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: and plow in the people. There's other countries where people

584
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: do terrorism. But in America, we allow the gasoline of

585
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: assault rifles and weapons and things like that. We allow

586
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: that to be on the streets and then pretend like

587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: we don't know why this is happened. It must be

588
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: mental health, and it's like, no, it's worse here because

589
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: of the people that we let be in charge. So

590
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: I agree completely, but just wanted to point out before

591
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: someone else did that, Yes, someone had in France, someone

592
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: that's taken a car and plowed through a crowd, like

593
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: that's not germane to only America. But America is the

594
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: deadliest country in the world when it comes to this

595
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: type of stuff. And it's because we let it be

596
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: the deadliest country because people don't give a fuck.

597
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: No, they do not.

598
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 3: And when you look at people and you tell people

599
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: you love your guns more than you love yourself, You

600
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: love your guns more than you love your children, You

601
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: love your gun more than you love your family, like

602
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: you love these guns more than life itself, people will

603
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: think you're insane. But the reason why I say you

604
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: do is because you allow these laws. Some of these

605
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: people have had their children killed by accidental guns and

606
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: all that shit, but they go, no, fuck it, I

607
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: got the right on the gun. Like they've been shot themselves,

608
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: and they look at you in the eye and be like,

609
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: fuck it, I got the right on the gun.

610
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: It does a lot of people that when it comes

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: to gun ownership, are basically sideline setters in the by

612
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: which I mean like, no, they're not going out mass

613
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: shooting people. No, they don't really. Uh, they may legally

614
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: own all their weapons and all that stuff. They may

615
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: even even though I doubt it takes some safety precautions

616
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: with their weapons, uh probably not the recommended put it

617
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: in a safe, put your clips over here, and all

618
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: this shit, because it takes away from the the the

619
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: uh scenario on your mind where someone's busting in your

620
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: house and you ain't got time to unlock the safe,

621
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: go to the other room, get the weapons, get the

622
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: get the bullets, get the car, you know. Like so,

623
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: but people have this dream and this love of owning

624
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: these weapons and these big AR fifteens and all this

625
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: shit and and a lot of them even when they go,

626
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: you know what, y'all making good points. We should have

627
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: an assault rifle band, you know what. You shouldn't be

628
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: able to just go get a gun from a second

629
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: hand thing without being ready ship blah blah.

630
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Agreed.

631
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: But at the same time they'll be like, I mean,

632
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to like actively create a group of

633
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: responsible gun owners that fights against Republicans that uh that

634
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: that just let guns run them unk like I'm not

635
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: like like, essentially it's helping me out. I may never

636
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: own an AR fifteen, or I may own one, but

637
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: the point is I'll know that I won't be able

638
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: to own one if democrats get their way, if people

639
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: that are against all this gun violence get their way.

640
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: So I'd rather have the gun than not. So I'm

641
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: gonna just sit here. And that's that's ultimately the shit

642
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: that's happening. There was also.

643
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: About saying, also, this might not be connect connected, but

644
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: it's something that made me think about it. When you

645
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: said local too, you know what, I also thought about

646
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: black because it's New Orleans, so I could see them

647
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: going something this quote unquote local and and and they

648
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 3: don't want to go black, so they just go local.

649
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: And so when you do that, that's for America. That's

650
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: America's way to dismiss the whole situation.

651
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Like it might not be that simple.

652
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: And my mind when you said local, oh, y'all trying

653
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: to blame it on the black people. So did y'all

654
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: can go on with whatever the fuck y'all doing.

655
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't dismiss it, Okay, That's what it made

656
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: me think. When they said.

657
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: They had a shooting at the Super Bowl parade in

658
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Kansas City one time, like a couple of years ago,

659
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: maybe just a year ago, and it turned out to

660
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: be two people got into an altercation and just started

661
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: spraying at each other and people in the.

662
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: Crowd got shot and killed.

663
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: But they they were so quick to be like, not terrorism,

664
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: just two brothers shooting each other and somehow just made

665
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: it okay to people, to which I'm like, I don't know.

666
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: To me, terrorism are things that are still terror in

667
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: the public. And I can't think of anything more terrifying

668
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: than people just houling off because everyone has access to

669
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: guns and just fucking random because you mad so one

670
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: stepped on your shoe, I'm dead.

671
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: That's that's still scary to me, Right, I shouldn't have

672
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: to lose my life over that. I ain't have shit

673
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: to do with that.

674
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: Hanah Nulu also had an explosion on New Year's Eve.

675
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: Damn it was a fireworks explosion. It killed three people

676
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: and injured at least twenty. It was It was in

677
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: a neighborhood near Honolulu's International Airport and a joint US

678
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: Air Force and Navy base and a little one in

679
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: two miles east of the USS Arizona Memorial which anner Sellers.

680
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Who died in Pearl Harbor.

681
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Uh Two people were declared dad to see the other

682
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: twenty victims were transported to hospitals. They said they had

683
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: never seen injuries like that. Uh, they're still investigating the

684
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: cause of the blast. Had no details how the accident occurred. Okay,

685
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: so we don't know. But that's another one of these explosions.

686
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: On New Year's last Las Vegas, they had, uh, I

687
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: want to say, at least one dead and I think

688
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: seven injured or something. A Tesla truck blew up in

689
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: front of Trump's Las Vegas Hotel. They said a person

690
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: died inside of the pickup truck and they were work

691
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: and they were working to get the out. Seven people

692
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: nearby had minor injuries. Several were taken to the hospital.

693
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: The fat fire in the valet area of the Trump

694
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: International Hotel, Las Vegas was supported at.

695
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Eight forty am. It was. It was also rented off

696
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: of that turot app. Yeah, they might need to get

697
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: in and ban that fucker.

698
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: And it was loaded with fireworks. They're now investigating this.

699
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: To see if to see if if it was foul player,

700
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: if the truck just blew up, I mean the car

701
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: just blew up.

702
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

703
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: And of course you know all Elon Musk cares about

704
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: because he's on Twitter trying to to talk about Hey,

705
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: this wasn't like one of our normal car fires, whereas

706
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: because we fucked up, this looks like somebody blew the

707
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: truck up, and uh, this is the fireworks and they're investigating.

708
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: Don't the the telemetry inside of the vehicles was positive

709
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: at the time of the explosion, so it wasn't like

710
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: the auto driving went off or whatever. But yeah, so

711
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: they're looking at that like that could be terrorism. So

712
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, this is like twenty twenty five

713
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: already starting off mad, scary, you know, and I think,

714
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: like the fireworks things may or may not be related.

715
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but it's just crazy how many

716
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: these things happened last night. Germany, they had firework chaos

717
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: and that messed up their New Year's celebration. Five people

718
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: were killed and dozens of emergency workers were injured as

719
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: a state of incidents involving fireworks marred New Year's Eve

720
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: celebrations in Germany.

721
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Damn, I hope. So.

722
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Despite calls for a national, nationwide band on the private

723
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: use of fireworks, they continue to be significant part of

724
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: New Year celebrations. Among those killed were two in the

725
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: eastern state of Saxony. According to a local public broadcaster MDR,

726
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: including a forty five year old man, was killed after

727
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: handling what was described does a firework bomb.

728
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh the big ones that go.

729
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, I'm just making this assumption. And

730
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: look like they got a band on it. It's the

731
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: reason why they got a band on it.

732
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they just said.

733
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: They said they have calls for a nationwide on First

734
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: of all, it's a band, not a D band band.

735
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah you said band like Redding band anyway.

736
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh, band like like like you banded it band B

737
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: A N. I think there's no D on this type

738
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: of band. My bad.

739
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: But they called for a band B A in. They

740
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: are calling for a band, which means they don't have Okay,

741
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm with you now, but this is why they want one.

742
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: This is why they want and they did not specify.

743
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: They put in quotes firework bomb. I don't know what

744
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: that means.

745
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with you now.

746
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's some ship he rigged,

747
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: if it was an actual bomb, if it was some

748
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: like terrorism ship, or if it was just some like

749
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: like wash wash this.

750
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. Yeah, we got a

751
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: lot of in the country here, we got a lot

752
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: to watch this. You're like, you lost your whole hand.

753
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what that sounds like in German, but

754
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: they may have that.

755
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: But yeah.

756
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: In the Capitol, Berlin firefighters responding to eighteen hundred and

757
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: ninety two incidents on New Year's Eve, two hundred and

758
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: ninety four more than previous the previous year, over fifteen

759
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: hundred emergency personnel service people were on duty. At least

760
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: thirteen attacks on emergency workers were reported as well. So

761
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: I guess they show up, Hey, you can't out, and

762
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: then it's like, well they want to fight. I have

763
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: no what the fuck is going on for them in

764
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: New Year's I thought they was the chill country.

765
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: What is happening? What is happening?

766
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, I just let the professionals do it,

767
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: because it they get fucked up and they know how

768
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: to use the shit.

769
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Three hundred and thirty people were detained in the Capitol

770
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve. One police officer was severely injured

771
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: at the being presumably hit by an illegal firework.

772
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: He's undergoing surgery.

773
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Several people are standing around the scene attack the police officers,

774
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: and it is one of the low points of the night.

775
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: I bet you they were drunk. Wouldn't be surprising if

776
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 3: they came.

777
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd be let us know what's going on? Right?

778
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: What the I thought y'all was chilled? I didn't know

779
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: y'all was fucking up the cops and blowing up.

780
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: Let us know you safe? Is it that serious over

781
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: in Germany for the New Year? What is happening? And

782
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: then we ain't got guns? We got fireworks though?

783
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the one of the more disturbing

784
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: ones didn't involve any fireworks or guns.

785
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: This sounds like a terrible way to die or get hurt.

786
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: But a Lego display fell and injured ten people at

787
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: the New Year's Eve ball drop of it in Massachusetts.

788
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, graphic content? Wait what's graphic about it?

789
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: I thought?

790
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Thrown up?

791
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: So I'm like, they got some balloons that are suspended

792
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: above the on the ceiling in a net.

793
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I guess who out dropping legos

794
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: was smart. I don't know.

795
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: What do you see legos? They don't even see legos.

796
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know where the legos are at they

797
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: in the balloons? I don't That's what I'm assuming.

798
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Oh oh, it was over to the right.

799
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's some type of lego display over to

800
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: the right.

801
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: That fell down when the balloons came down. Looked like

802
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: the balloons took it down. Oh shit, I'm listen.

803
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: I've heard her stepping on legos, but never legos stepping

804
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: on you and the right guys.

805
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: Right, And and it looked like when they let the

806
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: balloons down, look like the balloons was supposed to kind

807
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: of scatter, but looked like the whole thing just fell

808
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: Like when plot versus the balloons.

809
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, normally that stuff, the balloons.

810
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: Just kind of scatter and float down, But this one

811
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: like something may have went wrong and it just took

812
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: the lego thing.

813
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Got that. The thing was high shit too.

814
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: A large lego display fell during the balloon drop, landing

815
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: on several patrons. The Peabody Fire Department responded to the

816
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: center just after the noon local time. Department Deputy Chief

817
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Dan Deane told USA Today it appeared that the lego

818
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: display of an arcade machine was connected to the netting

819
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: that released the balloons. Ten people were injured, three adults

820
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: and five children are transported to a local medical facility,

821
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: and two people refuse medical service because they tough.

822
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: That makes sense because the way that failed. I was like,

823
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: the way that fail made no sense. I was like,

824
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: it looked like it may have either bumped or up

825
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: was connected to it because I was like that that

826
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't make sense, and why would you do that? Why

827
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: would you connect a lego display to a drop?

828
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: The New Year's Eavet celebration was sold out. It's unclear

829
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: how many patrons are at the event during the time

830
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: of the incident.

831
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's now who got to put it back together?

832
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: Is the real question. That's a great that's gonna take

833
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: a while. Do you need the instructions? Is it evidence?

834
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: Did the police gott to put it back evidence? Now

835
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: that's the police problem. Well, I do have some good news.

836
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: Moderate drinking is linked to lower overall mortality rate, says

837
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: National Academy of Sciences, sponsored by SLITCH.

838
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: A lot of people go, yeah, I'm drinking, but I'm

839
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: drinking a little bit less. A new report.

840
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: Reviewing evidence of modern alcohol consumption and health outcomes issue

841
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: earlier this month by the National Academy of Science, Engineering,

842
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: and Medicine has concluded that the WHO and the.

843
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Gamma researchers are wrong.

844
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: Moderate drinking is associated with some health benefits, with one

845
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: noticeable exception and report. The report concludes that with moderate

846
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: certainty that compare with never consuming alcohol, moderate alcohol.

847
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: Assumption it was like y'all still drink now, don't don't

848
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: don't go dry is associated.

849
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: We still need y'all money at the events.

850
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: Is associated with lower all cause mortality. All cause mortality

851
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: is a measure of the total number of deaths from

852
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: any cause in specific group of peep over a specific

853
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: period of time. In this case, mortality rates derived from

854
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: comparison between teetotalers and moderate Tipler tiplers.

855
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: What is Tipler? This is a non American.

856
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: In addition to report found that compared with never consuming alcohol,

857
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: consuming modern mouse of alcoholics associated with lower risk of

858
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: cardiovascular mortality in both men and women. Some evidence, however,

859
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: suggests that modern consumption is associated with higher risk and

860
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: female female breast cancer. With respect to comparing moderate alcohol

861
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: consumer versus lifelong non consumers, No association between modern alcohol

862
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: consumption and colorrectile oil cavity, farnagl esophagale, or luring gl

863
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: cancers can be made and no conclusions can be draw

864
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: regarding associations between weight related outcomes and modern alcohol consumption

865
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: compared would never consume alcohol.

866
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Did they say what moderate means moderate? I'm sure in

867
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: the study they did.

868
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: They didn't say in this article, like if it means

869
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: like one drink a week or whatever. I always think

870
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: the these articles are weird because it's like a lot

871
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: of correlation that they that the article treats its causation.

872
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: But normally the people who write the article are not

873
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: the same as the peer review papers, and a lot

874
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: of times you go read the peer review papers, they're

875
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: actually kind of hard for a regular layman to understand. Yes,

876
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: who knows who's telling the truth and what's really right

877
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: and what's been simplified?

878
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Right? But yeah, I just thought that was interesting, Like

879
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: alcohol is back, baby, we're back. Get off that weed, right?

880
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: But speaking of medical advice from people you're listening to

881
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: on the internet, because how many y'all were like finally riding,

882
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Karen said, I can drink.

883
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: TikTok? What about it?

884
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: TikTok? We used to do it out in the park.

885
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's gonna happen. TikTok is gonna be

886
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: the new hip hop thirty years from now it might

887
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: be uh anyway, uh TikTok has opened the door to

888
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: a new age of medical misinformation.

889
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: No shit, Uh yeah.

890
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Doctor wrote this in The Guardian and basically said people

891
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: are now listening to influencers more than their doctors in

892
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: some cases, like we already knew back in the day

893
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: when you used to go to like WebMD and it'd

894
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: be like that tickle in your throat is stage twelve.

895
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: K you are dead already at this How are you

896
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: even googling? Right? Well?

897
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: This month, BBC reporter around Stephen Bartleer's podcast The Diary

898
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: of a CEO, so it was spreading harmful health misinformation,

899
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: capturing a wider image of a moment we are currently

900
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: seeing people have less trust to health professionals and are

901
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: increasingly relying on videos and other engaging content they see online.

902
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: I've seen patients while working in the A and E

903
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: who have heard online that hormone related diseases such as

904
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: thyro out toxicosis or diabetes can be treated with herbal

905
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: and therapies, so have actively chosen to not take medication,

906
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: instead choosing to take different supplements and alternative therapies. This

907
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: this is look this doctor sebbi shit, this is alkaline watershit.

908
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, And you see a lot of

909
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: that shit on And I've seen doctors actually on TikTok

910
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: and and they've been saying I told my patient this,

911
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: and they was like, I actually know what I'm talking about.

912
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: But they went on TikTok and listen to their friends

913
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: and it didn't go well.

914
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: You know, I still think one of the most compelling

915
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: scenes that I've like just speaks to our times ever

916
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: was in I May Destroy You.

917
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: This TV series that was on HBO, and.

918
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: The main character who's dealing with a lot of stuff

919
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: from like anxiety and all this stuff from being on

920
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: the internet and being like, it's just it's just a

921
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: really good show. It's one of my favorite shows. But

922
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: there there's an episode where she goes to the doctor.

923
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: She takes her friend with her, and part of the

924
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: reason she's going is because she's dealing she's like having

925
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: these panic attacks and her she's feeling like sick and.

926
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: All this stuff.

927
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: And so she goes to the doctor and her friend

928
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: goes in with her, and the doctor is like, we

929
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: ran all these tests.

930
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: Here are the results of this test.

931
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: And at the end of the giving her the results,

932
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: her friend is like, that's racist because she's a black

933
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: woman doctor. I don't know if they were white or

934
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: they don't they weren't black. And the doctor's like, well,

935
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: because the doctor's like explaining, like, listen, we're gonna give

936
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: you your blood pressure is high, you need to watch that.

937
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you some medicine, but you need to

938
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: stop smoking, you need to watch your alcohol intake, you

939
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: need to maybe get some more exercise. And the reason

940
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying this is because Afro Caribbean people have a

941
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: higher instance of high blood pressure and dying from it.

942
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: Blah bah blah.

943
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: And her friend just goes off as like, you're that's racist.

944
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: What if the fuck are you talking about. Don't listen

945
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: to him, Let's go, let's get out of here.

946
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: Fuck this doctor. We're gonna get a different doctor.

947
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: And this keep in mind, this thing is written by

948
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: a black woman, right, so this this is written by

949
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: somebody who's trying to have these conversations through her art.

950
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: And I loved I loved this so much because it's

951
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: symbolical of so much of what we see online where

952
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: don't trust the experts, and it starts with you know,

953
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: the government, but you know it's people saying, don't trust

954
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: your doctor, don't do this, don't do that. And I

955
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: get why people have it. I get why people have

956
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: had shitty dealings with doctors, people.

957
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: Have had things da da da. I get that. But

958
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: there is a science behind this. These people did go

959
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: to school.

960
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: They are looking at these test results, right, like some

961
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: of this is better than your intuition. It's kind of

962
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: like how people and it's a very antiquated notion. But

963
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: it's like when people say shit like I'm not taking

964
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: no medicine.

965
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do blank.

966
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: That's fine, But how did you get here if you

967
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: were just if you're capable of the discipline of I'm

968
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: just gonna lower my blood pressure by eating different. Maybe

969
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: you take nothing's gonna stop you from eating different. Nope,

970
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: Maybe you take the medicine and you eat different and

971
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: then you get your blood pressure low enough and then

972
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: you don't need the medicine, right as opposed to I'm

973
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: just gonna walk around with the silent killer of high blood.

974
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Pressure and die because or just.

975
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: Risk death every single day, get headaches and all this

976
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: shit because I don't like I don't trust these doctors,

977
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: and they just trying to give me medicine, and so

978
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I'm not getting my oil change

979
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: in my car. You know, it's like it's like nons.

980
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: It's okay, this is where you're at. It's just a snapshot,

981
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: but you can make decisions that change your life.

982
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: So you're not dealing with this.

983
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Right right, And of course being black, they are. There's

984
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: actual medical racism. So you have actual instances with black

985
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: maternal health and doctors who are racist and don't offer

986
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: treatment stuff like that. Anyway, point being, when you sow

987
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: this type of distrust throughout society, whether you find it

988
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: to be reasonable or not reasonable, whether you find it

989
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: to be.

990
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Valid or not valid, it doesn't really matter.

991
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: Nature abhors a vacuum, so someone is going to step

992
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: into the void.

993
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: That is, I have these issues. The issues didn't go anywhere.

994
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: So if you're getting headaches every day, you're getting headaches

995
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: every day. If you're getting chest pain, you're getting chest pain.

996
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: If you've been told and believe I don't trust my doctors,

997
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: that I don't listen to them, you're gonna start listening

998
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: to somebody. And there's no shortage of motherfuckers who will

999
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: turn that camera phone right towards their face, beat it

1000
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: up with some makeup, and go on here and tell

1001
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: you drink that alcohol in water, eat some grapes, and

1002
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: don't listen to nobody but me, and you're.

1003
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Gonna be all right.

1004
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: And I wondered when, and I've been saying this for

1005
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: years on this podcast, but I said, we was gonna

1006
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: start seeing the results of what the internet has done

1007
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: to us, what social media has done to us. And

1008
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: this isn't even like completely quantified. This isn't a study.

1009
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: This is just a doctor giving like, hey, we as

1010
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: doctors are seeing this a lot now. But at some

1011
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: point we're going to have to discuss what is healthy

1012
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: from the internet and what has not been what has

1013
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: because it's not enough to point out the flaws and stuff.

1014
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: A lot of the Internet is about replacing shit. Like

1015
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: it's like when people say, like, cut your family off

1016
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: over something you something on Twitter or whatever, but they

1017
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: then replace it with like me, I'm your new family

1018
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: the internet.

1019
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: Nigga, just only listen to me, tapp into me every day,

1020
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: check on me every.

1021
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: Day, follow them my tweets, listen to my podcast, subscribe

1022
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: to my channel. I'm your new family. Get away from them,

1023
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: come to me. I'm not toxic, I'm perfect. I'm a

1024
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: stranger you never met, but I am fucking I'm on it.

1025
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: I know. And you know who's really against you?

1026
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: The fucking the doctor that you've been seeing, that you've

1027
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: been going to, that that actually runs test on you

1028
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: that I've never seen.

1029
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: But let me tell you all the test of bullshit.

1030
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: Just listen to me, eat these grapes, and buy my

1031
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: alcohol and water, sign up for my doctor sabit class.

1032
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I feel like that has had a real effect.

1033
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: And it could be my confirmation bias, but this, this

1034
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: was an article that made me go, yeah, that's sounds.

1035
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: Right to me. Yeah, I got several things.

1036
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: Well break it down, player number one, going back when

1037
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: you were talking about the TV show, when you was talking,

1038
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: I may destroy you.

1039
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1040
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: And what's so funny you have black people to follow

1041
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: for that when uh me being a black woman, my doctor,

1042
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 3: our doctor actually would tell you told me before a uh,

1043
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: these things affect black people more than any other group

1044
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: because you know that some doctors don't give a fuck

1045
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: about none of them studies. But if you got one

1046
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: that actually cares about your group, that shit matters, and

1047
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: that because that means they're doing their job, like like

1048
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: they are specifically doing your job based off of the

1049
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: knowledge that they have at the time that they're talking

1050
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: to you and some That's the thing about these groups

1051
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: and particularly online and even like friends in your real life.

1052
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: People that actually care about you will not fight things

1053
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: that are actually beneficial to keeping you around. They'll be like, girl,

1054
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: you better take that medicine, hold Jesus hand and going

1055
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: about your business.

1056
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: You can do both, you know what I'm saying.

1057
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: Prayer about it, whatever you need to do, like you

1058
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: know and have some common sense because I love you

1059
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: and I want you to drop dad you know from

1060
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: high blood pressure or stroke. You know that that shit

1061
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: is true. And also you made me think about that

1062
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 3: Facebook group.

1063
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: We talked about it years ago. It was this letting online.

1064
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: She joined a Facebook group when she was pregnant and

1065
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: they was telling her that in the group, they was

1066
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: telling this woman all types of crazy shit.

1067
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: She ended up losing her fucking baby, and them bitches

1068
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: turned on her and took her child.

1069
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: And put it on like their board. When you go

1070
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 3: on Facebook and you go in the group up there,

1071
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: and you know, she started talking about, hey, y'all stood

1072
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: me wrong, y'all did me wrong, and they kicked her

1073
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: out of the Facebook group because these people don't care

1074
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 3: about you.

1075
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: She lost her baby, but most importantly, her coming in

1076
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: there and saying, my experience listening to y'all made me

1077
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: lose my baby win against their narrative, and their narrative

1078
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: was more important. They became the thing they said the

1079
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: medical industry was. They were like, the medical industry is

1080
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: is erasing Black women in their experience, their lived experiences.

1081
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: And then they're they're covering up the truth from you.

1082
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: They're keeping everybody from knowing that this that what is

1083
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: happening with black women in pregnancy, and it's all their fault.

1084
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: And so you're like, Okay, I'm gonna listen to y'all.

1085
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: And they were like, don't go to the doctor. Don't

1086
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: go to the doctor. Hey, they need to Mike, they

1087
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: might need to force I'm so overdue. They're saying maybe

1088
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: they should force a c section or forced labor. Don't

1089
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: listen to the doctor. Your body will tell you my

1090
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: child died. Deleted, blocked, mute it, do not come into

1091
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: this group anymore. That is to me as that's more

1092
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: dangerous in many ways, and because it's hiding behind the

1093
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: fact that it's replaced, it's using the very real fears

1094
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: and dangers of a system that we would like to change,

1095
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: of a system we would like to make aware and

1096
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: responsive to the different needs of certain groups of people

1097
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: that that can't that has shown the ability to do

1098
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: it for the record, like we've seen the maternal health

1099
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: rates improve when we when we have passed legislation, so

1100
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: we know that this can work for people. And you're going, nah,

1101
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: just listen to us. And then if somebody you listen

1102
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: to us and don't work out, you're raised.

1103
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: Yep, And you bought up a good point when you

1104
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: were saying, replace it with me.

1105
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: If you're bored, replace it with me.

1106
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 3: You're sad, replace it with me, depressed, angry, replace it

1107
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: with me like that it really stuck. That's a lot

1108
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: of a lot of times people don't realize this, particularly

1109
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: people that go down these holes and use Particularly if

1110
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: you spend an exorbitant amount of time online, like a

1111
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: lot a lot of time online. It don't matter if

1112
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: it's Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, whatever it is. Think to yourself,

1113
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: what am I running from. What am I using this

1114
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: to replace in my life? Be it sadness, depressed, be

1115
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: it I'm trying to run away from an issue, be

1116
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: it I don't want to talk about something, And if

1117
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: you think about that, you will refocus your thing, your time.

1118
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: But it's designed to give us a.

1119
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: A high in our brain so that it's hard for

1120
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 3: you to to to change your habit because you sometimes

1121
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: people know the right thing to do, but it's hard

1122
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: for them to turn that switch off when you get

1123
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: that dopamine hit, when you get that high, when the

1124
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 3: when when the thing that you're trying to run from

1125
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: makes you feel good, you know, because if it made

1126
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: you feel bad, people would be online. But you know,

1127
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: so since it's making you feel good and it's telling

1128
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: me that this is where I need to be at

1129
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: all times, I really don't need.

1130
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: To be anywhere. I think.

1131
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: Also, there are some very real things in society that

1132
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't think you can deny, right, and so they

1133
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: take the real issues of society, but then they flip

1134
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: it into this opposite world where all of a sudden

1135
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: none of it matters. It's like it's like how people

1136
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: can go from like fat acceptance movement which I think

1137
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: is an actual valuable movement of like we need to

1138
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: stop being so fucking mean and scared and and and

1139
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 2: attacking and bullying people for being bigger, Like it ain't

1140
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: your fucking life, it ain't your fucking business, if we're

1141
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: being real, But the amount of like ridicule and bullying

1142
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: and derision and revulsion and even people that that look

1143
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: traditionally what people would consider attractive.

1144
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: The way they.

1145
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: Talk in their inner monologue is very fat phobic. It's

1146
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: very like, uh, I could never be fat. That's the

1147
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: worst thing you can be in the fucking world. Do

1148
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: anything not to be fat, you know, take I'll take

1149
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: any amount of medicine. I'll eat crazy, our fucking our

1150
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: exercise tillu till it's unhealthy, whatever I have to do.

1151
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: They have influencers that are literally like they they have

1152
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: become malnourished and died from it, yes, but they've been

1153
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: elevated millions of followers and stuff because it's like, well

1154
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: look how they look that they look the right way.

1155
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: You can be smoking, you can be uh, you know,

1156
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: on drugs, you can whatever it is. You can drink

1157
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: yourself to death. But if you don't look a certain way,

1158
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: everything's fine. Motherfucker's walking around with with with the entire

1159
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: inside of their body all fucked up from alcohol.

1160
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: And then but they're.

1161
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: Laughing at fat people, right, Yes, so that's a real

1162
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: thing in society. That's not something the Internet made up.

1163
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: That's not something that's not real. But you can take

1164
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: that that that point and go, this is a real

1165
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: issue in society, and then go, So when you went

1166
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: to your doctor and your doctor said you had high

1167
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: blood pressure, they said your blood sugar was too elevated,

1168
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: they said you're pre diabetic.

1169
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: They said you need to make some changes.

1170
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: And one of the changes that can help with say

1171
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: your liver or whatever, is losing weight. Well, then people

1172
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: will take that on the internet and go, remember all

1173
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: that stuff I just said about how fat fobus society is.

1174
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: Your doctor is fat phobic. They told you lose weight.

1175
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Don't listen to them as opposed to I don't know

1176
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck your blood sugar is, nigga, I don't

1177
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: know what the fuck your blood pressure is. I don't

1178
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: know what medicine is you want, I don't know, Like,

1179
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm not responsible if you can't not responsible if you

1180
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: heel over at thirty five because you were listening to

1181
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: me and because you like my tiktoks.

1182
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: I actually haven't.

1183
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: I didn't take a hipocratic Oh, I don't have any

1184
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: responsibility to you. So I'm gonna but I'm not gonna

1185
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: tell you to question me and be cynical. I'm not

1186
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna tell you like I'm just gonna tell you doing

1187
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: nothing is just as empowered, is more empowering than doing anything.

1188
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: And and I think it's very important to point out

1189
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: that these people uh have managed to come in and

1190
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: be the experts, be the advice givers because of these

1191
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: real issues in society. Like I think a lot of

1192
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: people don't see these things as related. They think these

1193
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: are two different things. I'm like, if you got rid

1194
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: of what's funny is if you got rid of a

1195
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: lot of the fat phobia in a Mamica. And this

1196
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: is just one thing, by the way, Yeah, but if

1197
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: you got a rid of just a lot of that,

1198
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: you actually would have people who are like more prone

1199
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: to be like, you know what my doctor said, like

1200
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: I should lose some weight to help out with this

1201
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: health outcome.

1202
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: It's actually not a big deal to me. Like I

1203
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: don't like, I'm not like, I'm not feeling like they

1204
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: judge me or were mean to me. I'm feeling like

1205
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: they're doing their job.

1206
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: The same way when I go to my mechanic and

1207
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: they say, hey, the car will run if you got

1208
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: the fuel injector system, I don't go, your motherfucking your

1209
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: anti fuel.

1210
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I go, okay, yeah, because.

1211
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: There's no stigma against a car, but as a person,

1212
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: there's a stigma against you. So that's why I think

1213
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: these things end up being like this. And I think

1214
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: also in a lot of cases, the online stuff is

1215
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: just as fucked up. Like I'm just using the fat

1216
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: phobic people this time, but a lot of this stuff,

1217
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: the wellness shit is like, don't worry about your cancer.

1218
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Drink drink grape juice and put a little bit of

1219
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: wheat in it and you will be all right. And

1220
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: it's like that's one medically not fucking you have no

1221
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: evidence to back that up. Two, you're not a fucking expert.

1222
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: You're just a person that has a lot of listeners,

1223
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: which we now in society associate with being an expert.

1224
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: How many times have we talked about somebody saying some

1225
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: full hearty shit on this podcast, But the retort many

1226
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: people have is. But they got four million followers, so

1227
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: they got they got the number one pocket. They smart

1228
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean it doesn't mean they're expert, doesn't

1229
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: mean they're learned or anything. It just means they have

1230
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: a huge following. And we use that to say that's

1231
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: what the new expertise is. And you know what, your

1232
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: doctor ain't got four million followers on TikTok, not if

1233
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: they're a good doctor. Your doctor just talks to you

1234
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: in a room and then you go tweet about the shit.

1235
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: They're not telling anybody any of the information. So I

1236
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: do think this was it's a bunch of factors that

1237
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: lead us down this road.

1238
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 3: Right and also the also the thing is, either way

1239
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: it goes, be it this, be it you know, medicine,

1240
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: be it therapy.

1241
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna spend money.

1242
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: You're either gonna spend twenty dollars on the copey and

1243
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: get some right information or you're gonna be in twenty

1244
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: dollars on they bullshit, subscribing or whatever. Because at the

1245
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: end of the day, they are selling you something, so

1246
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna separate from your money.

1247
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: Even well even if you never give them money.

1248
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: The currency of the Internet is attention true, it's views,

1249
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: it's clicked, so they're getting something every time you click

1250
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: on their thing, and at the end of the day,

1251
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: they don't care any more about you than then they

1252
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: claim the doctors do or whatever. And also like because

1253
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: it's part performance if you look at what people need

1254
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: to do to stay relevant on the like my friends

1255
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: who watch TikTok, who watch TikTok, sometimes they'll send me

1256
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: these tiktoks and they're kind of like because of our conversations,

1257
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: they're very like one day, no, I kind of hate TikTok,

1258
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: but also they're very aware of the things we talk about,

1259
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: and so sometimes they send me the examples of the

1260
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: stuff I'm talking about. And like, one of the things

1261
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: is people that claim to be like these life coaches

1262
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: and positivity coaches and stuff. If you look at how

1263
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: they talk about you their listener, a lot of times

1264
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: it's not the stuff that it's not the positivity and

1265
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: claim like the positive stuff they have. It's a lot

1266
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: of negative talk to you, Like listen, because I ain't

1267
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: a basic bitch. I'm not gonna be worried about what

1268
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: my ex is doing. Like y'all bitches be worried. It's like,

1269
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but if I pay them out there, you're

1270
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: not gonna take tell me you're better than my therapist.

1271
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: And I paid my therapist and they ain't call me bitch,

1272
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: not once. I'm not once, I'm sorry, but I'll actually

1273
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: pay the money. Stupid dumb like they didn't and they

1274
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: didn't just tell me that their life was so great

1275
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: because they follow all their own advice.

1276
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: And I'm a fucking idiot.

1277
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: If I'm already dealing with negative self talking all that stuff,

1278
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: that ain't what how I need to be talked to.

1279
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: And of course it's not everybody. There's plenty of good

1280
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: people on TikTok that that that that I'm sure experts

1281
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: and do this work. They may not go as viral,

1282
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: it may not be as explosive or whatever, but the

1283
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: but I think it's very important that as we have

1284
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: watched a decentralization and a lack of trust in our

1285
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: institutions eroade throughout the public spere the I I think

1286
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: some people think it's a good thing, and I can

1287
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: understand how you think it's a good thing to think

1288
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: like some of these institutions are traditionally racist, tradition whatever, right,

1289
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: But what we're inserting instead, because of the nature of

1290
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: howards a vacuum, we're inserting these individuals who their Their

1291
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: system of reward is not even like I need to

1292
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: get this money from my patients, I need to keep people.

1293
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: I just want to keep people alive because I went

1294
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: to school for this and this is what I've dedicated my.

1295
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: Life to it.

1296
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: No, their reward is how many views did it get,

1297
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: how many ads am I going to be able to play?

1298
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: How much money is going to my Patreon. That's where

1299
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: their expertise is going. And so their reward system is

1300
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: now set up in a way of what's the most

1301
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: bombastic way to say this, what's the most bombastic way

1302
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: to get people to pay me attention? Because yes, I

1303
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: make the money off attention. Your doctor doesn't make the

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: money off attention.

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: No, they do not.

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Speaker 3: And and also it's one of those things where you

1307
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: go from regulation to deregulation.

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Speaker 1: Everything is direct regulating, y'all.

1309
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: Like, if you're paying attention, you go from doctors that

1310
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: have standards and everything else to now it's the fucking

1311
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: wild wife. It's deregulated, quote unquote not deregulated as we

1312
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: stripped the rules, but deregulated as now we got.

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Speaker 1: You said it right.

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: Even if you talk about the rules, doctor Sebb doesn't

1315
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: have to have no FDA approval or nothing. There are

1316
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: people who are spent money bought his medicines quote unquote,

1317
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: and they probably died and probably died from cancer or

1318
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck was eating them up because they were

1319
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: like whatever that I think it.

1320
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: Was it a Nanda Lewis.

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: There was some woman recently who just came out, black

1322
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: woman who used to be like a video vj you

1323
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: know those video jocks on MTV, and she said she's

1324
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: suffering from like very severe vest cancer because she was like,

1325
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just go all natural. I'm not gonna I'm

1326
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: not going to get kimo, I'm not going to the doctor.

1327
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't need them to do this. And it's a

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: sad thing to read.

1329
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: It's her body and it's her choice, of course, but

1330
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: it's a sad thing to read because it's like because

1331
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: she was now saying like, yeah, I am gonna listen now,

1332
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: I am gonna like I am gonna try to medical

1333
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: procedures now or I wish I had or something like that,

1334
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: and I'm like, there's a cost to letting this be

1335
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: the new expertise. There's a cost to it, and we're

1336
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: starting to see it. The Diary of a CEO podcast,

1337
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: for instance, there have been guests who suggests ketogenic diet

1338
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: cure cancer, diets ketogenic diets cure cancer, and others stating

1339
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: that COVID vaccinations, which have saved millions of lives, did

1340
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: more harm than good. Same thing with Joe Rogan. He

1341
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: once suggested that gene therapy that covid vaccination was gene therapy,

1342
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: and has had a considerable number of episodes where ITA's

1343
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: guests is about a nonsense related to health pandering towards

1344
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories. Naomi kleinb brilliantly explained her twenty twenty three

1345
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: book Doppelganger the concept of diagonalism, the belief that power

1346
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: is tied to conspiracy, and how this has filtered through

1347
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: the day to day life in Western society since the pandemic. Diagonalism,

1348
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: a turn coined by William Callison and Quinn Slabadian, explains

1349
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: the shift in the categories of left versus right politics.

1350
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: Instead of showing how people once considered it to be

1351
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: from the left wing or a political spirits end up

1352
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: moving towards the far right with the share belief that

1353
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: power is innately linked to conspiracy.

1354
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I totally have seen that.

1355
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons that when y'all the fans

1356
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: of this show right in or people start suggesting we

1357
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: have guests on the show, and they start suggesting conspiratorial things,

1358
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: you will almost always hear me either a pushback or

1359
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: treat it as comedic, because I feel like the gateway

1360
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: from conspiracy to a lot of this right right wing

1361
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: and misinformation is so short, and people think you can

1362
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: play around with a toe in it, and it's not

1363
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: really like that. Too many people started off sounding like

1364
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: it was just I'm told, yeah that Joe Rogan didn't

1365
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: jump in.

1366
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: And was just a conspiracy theory. He started tinking around with.

1367
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: It when people say, hey, man, what are you doing,

1368
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: he went further into it, and now he just full

1369
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: blown has people on his show saying a bunch of

1370
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: unscientific shit, because it's not really something you can play with,

1371
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: at least in my mind. I'm afraid of the slippery

1372
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: slope of now you're just a big asth misinformation spreader

1373
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: who uses the fact that people are telling you you're

1374
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: wrong as evidence that you're right. Right, because once you

1375
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: go so far down that rabbit hole, everyone who's like

1376
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: the COVID vaccines are not killing people. Oh, they part

1377
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: of the conspiracy. See this is how it works. See

1378
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: they got you. It's Aaron Rodgers going on Pat McAfee

1379
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: every Tuesday on ESPN acting like he is somehow not

1380
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: part of this mainstream media and like I somehow I'm

1381
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: against everybody else, but I'm on TV, the same TV channelism.

1382
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's they get to now there's never anything

1383
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: they can be wrong about because if there's no evidence,

1384
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: they will accept it is right because that makes it

1385
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: part of the conspiracy.

1386
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: Agreed. And also it's one of these things.

1387
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: While we kind of just talking talking about a lot

1388
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: of this stuff in general, you even have some professionals

1389
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: that actually see people, these non professionals getting attention, and

1390
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 3: like you said, they'll dip they toe in all this

1391
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: internet shit.

1392
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 1: And you're going you need to stay out.

1393
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: Of this and just do your job, because you haven't

1394
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: go on like that lady she went on went viral

1395
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: for talking shit about her clients.

1396
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh the black woman who was like shitting on black men. Yeah,

1397
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: and like went viol and yeah, And I remember a

1398
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 2: lot of people because of the Internet and the way

1399
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: that social media hierarchies are set up, it was like,

1400
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: we have to defend her.

1401
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: She's a black woman.

1402
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 2: And I remember from jump being like, I'm not comfortable

1403
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: with anything we're watching.

1404
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't know this woman.

1405
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: What she's doing seems like a gross violation of her

1406
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: clients privacy.

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: But whether you think that's okay or not, just think

1408
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: about it.

1409
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: If it was your therapist, it don't take that loan

1410
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: to connect the dots because we know everything about each other.

1411
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: But imagine you went to your therapist and your therapist

1412
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: was ranting about things that you realize where about you.

1413
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Yes, online, even that to.

1414
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 2: Me is extremely unprofessional. She ended up losing her license

1415
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: and losing her job. But she's gone down some really

1416
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: weird rabbit hole since it's actually and keep in mind,

1417
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: I take no joy in her down Like you.

1418
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: Said you dip your toe in then this down Hereah,

1419
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't take any joy in it.

1420
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: Like now she's like got a OnlyFans and she's like

1421
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: always posting this very sexual shit about It's like it's

1422
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: gotten to a very weird place that makes it feel like, oh,

1423
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: was this ever really about any of the stuff you

1424
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 2: said it about with mental health and black men at

1425
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: the beginning, or was it just like the ego gets

1426
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: fed through all this stuff, which is something that can't

1427
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: be separated from all the social media, including our podcast.

1428
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: There's a level of ego to this where it gets fed.

1429
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: And if you're not strong about killing your ego and

1430
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: realizing how much of this is not really about you

1431
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: or just limiting and like, hey, I might be entertaining,

1432
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: people might want to hear what I have to say.

1433
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,919
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I fucking know everything.

1434
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: If you're not having that humility or something inside of you,

1435
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: then you become like, don't listen to your doctor, listen

1436
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: to me, don't listen to your bank, listen to me,

1437
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: don't listen And a lot of times, you you know,

1438
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: it leads you down this rabbit hole.

1439
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, a lot of times, it's about

1440
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 3: it's about cloud is about that attention because you, like

1441
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: you say, you don't get paid in quote unquote dollars

1442
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: and cents. Sometimes you do, but a lot of times

1443
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: just the interaction and all that stuff is how you

1444
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 3: get paid like that's the currency. And another example of

1445
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: this is about that teacher, Remember that male teacher that

1446
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: went viral. We had a lot of people to row

1447
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: into us and that like we were crazy when we

1448
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: was like, hey, y'all, there's.

1449
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: Something wrong with this. You should not be doing this.

1450
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: And eventually a lot of those people say, hey, y'all

1451
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: knew y'all we kind of we were so adamant about

1452
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: it till the more stuff came out to people say, Okay,

1453
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 3: this makes sense, Like yeah, for sometimes people to kind

1454
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: of work, they feel a certain way, and then they

1455
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 3: work back with to justify how they feel versus just

1456
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 3: looking at the situation they're going, hey, these things are

1457
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: crossing lines on social media between professionalism and entertainment that

1458
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: they just shouldn't fucking cross.

1459
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, TikTok to me is one of those

1460
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: scarier ones because I I maybe it's just because I

1461
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: don't truly understand how that TikTok thing, the algorithm of

1462
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: it all works, but it people really treat TikTok like

1463
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: it is like whatever their algorithm takes them to is

1464
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: just their new reality. Like it's just like unlike like

1465
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of skepticism. They're like people

1466
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: like I have friends that will send me like a

1467
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: link to a video and be like, look at this,

1468
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: it's the truth about Kendrick or something, and I'm like,

1469
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how I tell you this. This is

1470
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: just a nigga in his car talking like it doesn't

1471
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: They don't seem to have any more information than you

1472
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: or I have, Right, it's just a maybe it matches

1473
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: our theory, but it could. No, there's no actual truth

1474
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:10,440
Speaker 2: in this. It's just a person talking, and there's something

1475
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: about the legitimacy of it being on that platform for

1476
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: people is enough to replace, you know, actual confirmed information.

1477
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: This is not a journalist giving me sourced information, right,

1478
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: this is just a guy who's like I noticed in

1479
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: a video from three two thousand and three, Kendrick said this,

1480
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: and then in twenty seventeen he said this, and then

1481
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: on this song these were the lyrics, and so I

1482
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: take that to mean that Drake killed Kendrick's best friend.

1483
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I.

1484
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: Don't think this is true, and I think it's kind

1485
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: of weird that you do, you know what I mean.

1486
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: It's like, well, what it is interesting? I was like, no,

1487
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 2: I know, I sound like a dick. It's not interesting,

1488
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: and it has and it needs to not be interesting,

1489
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: because this is the conspiracy rabbit hole where you just

1490
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: start accepting a lower level of vetted information. And we

1491
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: make fun of q Andon, but this is how these

1492
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: Q and nine motherfuckers got there. Yes, it's like you

1493
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: just have to present to them like, well, there are

1494
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: some people that are being sex trafficked and that is

1495
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: a fact. And then the next thing you know that

1496
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: like democrats are eating the blood of babies and they's

1497
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: sex trafficking them and it's like what And that's why

1498
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm voting for sex traffical for president.

1499
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, how did this happen? Because I started

1500
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole.

1501
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: I started down the rabbit hole, and for a not

1502
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: some people already over here, and I feel like this

1503
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 3: happens on the extreme left and on the extreme right.

1504
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 3: Most people started down this fucking rabbit hole during the

1505
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: pandemic because they fucking bored and at the house, and

1506
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: so they got on that crack and they've been on

1507
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: that crack and it's hard for them to get off,

1508
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 3: you know, because everybody claims that they are an exception

1509
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: to the rule and that that there's nothing the internet

1510
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: don't trick them bitches, tricks everybody.

1511
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: It tricks you.

1512
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: If you're on there long enough, you will find something

1513
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: that has food you. You are not an exception to

1514
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: the rules when it comes to this shit, right.

1515
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just like I said, I'm not teared

1516
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: to tell I'm not an expert. I'm not here to

1517
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: tell people what to do with their bodies and all

1518
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: that shit of anything. I'll try to be on the

1519
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: other side of like, I actually don't know what the

1520
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: fuck anybody's story is, and everybody, I'm assuming everybody's doing

1521
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck they want to do, right, and whatever

1522
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 2: the outcomes are are individually based.

1523
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: That's that's what you have decided.

1524
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: And the same way that I don't want people to

1525
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: fucking I don't like when people give me unsolicited advice

1526
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: and shit about my body. I but I would never

1527
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: let those people replace my doctor. And if I really

1528
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: truly felt I had a bad doctor, I get a

1529
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: different fucking doctor. Like I'm not like, I'm not going

1530
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: to do this thing of like there's no role for

1531
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: doctors in the world.

1532
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: Why are they even here? Because one way or another.

1533
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: You gonna end up seeing those motherfuckers, and whether it

1534
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: be because you you, whether it be an emergency or whatever,

1535
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: everybody eventually ends up seeing no motherfuckers, right like you're

1536
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: gonna and if you don't, a lot of times you're

1537
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: gonna regret that you didn't, you know.

1538
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of.

1539
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: Interesting what happens when we let expertise be kind of

1540
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: democratized into like or decentralized into like everybody's an expert.

1541
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: No.

1542
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: No, it's like how not all opinions are valid and

1543
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: not everybody is equal on all have an equal weight.

1544
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: There's a thing about expertise that does matter.

1545
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: But I'm reading this book shouting to Momony Jones called

1546
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: Amusing Ourselves to Death.

1547
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: I think it's by Neil Postman, I think.

1548
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: Is his name, and I'm only, like, you know, a

1549
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: few chapters in, but it's been very interesting to read.

1550
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: It's kind of heavy, heady, and I think he must

1551
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: have either passed or this this work is just from

1552
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: a long time ago, because I think it's from like

1553
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five.

1554
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: But it's about how.

1555
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 2: TV is becoming this new landscape that is changing how

1556
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: we communicate with each other. And it is replacing the

1557
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: written word of like even newspapers and even books at

1558
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: some point, and he's like, we're becoming a worse society

1559
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: for it. Even though I'm not making the he's not

1560
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: making the argument in the book of we're.

1561
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: Becoming a worst society.

1562
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: He's actually saying, like, I believe that this book isn't

1563
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: even about that. It's just here's how it's changing us,

1564
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: right though, in the way that like we'll never have

1565
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: a fat president again because of TV.

1566
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of TV.

1567
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: If it was just if it was just if you

1568
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: just saw the shit on newspapers and magazines, fat president,

1569
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: don't bother nobody like, hey, I'm just reading's what's the

1570
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: merit of their ideas?

1571
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: Even like with something like radio, you.

1572
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: Know, but when you see the person, all of a sudden,

1573
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: there's something comes up and people are like, Nope, can't

1574
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,919
Speaker 2: vote for him. You know, Chris Christy can't be president,

1575
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: you know, whether he had better ideas than Trump or not.

1576
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: He fat, you know, And so it changes. But now

1577
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: this book was really before the advent of like social

1578
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: media and the internet.

1579
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: Really shit still applied.

1580
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm I cannot unsee and unthink about how that book

1581
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: is so I wish we knew his thoughts on this,

1582
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 2: because I see things now where I'm like, the internet

1583
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: is like TV on fucking myths, Yes, like like the

1584
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: internet is like everything he thought was gonna happen where

1585
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 2: he was like, Yo, shit is getting bad out here,

1586
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: you know when he brings he brought up like how

1587
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: we get news right and how we can pretend that

1588
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: it's all like listen, it's just about what's sourced and

1589
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: what's vetted, and who's the smartest and who can give

1590
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: us the straight facts? Can anybody pull up the ugly

1591
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 2: news anchors come out? Where are the fat news anchors?

1592
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: Where are the where the news anchors who's just face

1593
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: not as attractive as? How come every news ain't gonna

1594
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: beat face beat to the god's hair did to the

1595
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: nonsw Why is that? Because we can't get our news

1596
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: any other way? Because it's a physical, optical media that

1597
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: we will no longer tolerate that the same way that

1598
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure when it was books and news articles, if

1599
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 2: you had an ugly font or a bunch of typos

1600
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: and misspellings run on sentences, I bet that made it

1601
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: hard for people to be newspaper like, I'm not reading

1602
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: your ugglass newspaper, but now we have a TV screen

1603
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: to look at, and I don't want to get my

1604
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 2: news from your ugly face or from your you know whatever.

1605
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: You gotta wonder and I I can't get my news

1606
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: from you. It's too distracted that the internet is that

1607
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: times one hundred.

1608
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: It's not even news, and it has replaced our news.

1609
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 2: Like how many people I saw so many people today

1610
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: bemoaning I couldn't find out enough information about the terrorist

1611
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: stuff on Twitter.

1612
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: Think about that for a second.

1613
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: You know where I got my information from the fucking

1614
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: AP reuters or routers how you pronounce it, Like I

1615
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: just went to vetted news sources and was like, oh,

1616
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 2: they'll have accurate information with quotes from the actual police

1617
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. Twitter was never even when

1618
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 2: it was more even when it was more active, Twitter

1619
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: was never really one hundred percent more accurate. There was

1620
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 2: a lot of bad information. It's killed many a celebrity.

1621
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: It's given us misinformation. It's told us to target people

1622
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: who it docks people that were the wrong people.

1623
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: It's done a bunch of shit.

1624
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: But we look at the golden days before Elon took over,

1625
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: and made it even worse, and go man, Twitter was

1626
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: we would have learned so much on Twitter before the news,

1627
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, maybe that was wrong and bad. Maybe

1628
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: what we should be doing is looking at the AP

1629
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: and going I know they talked to three sources, they

1630
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: actually went on the scene and talked to some of

1631
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: my witnesses.

1632
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: But but what have we done.

1633
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 2: We've conspiratorialized the news is don't trust the AP, trust

1634
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: your rogan.

1635
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1636
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: And so I know this is a long mean during conversation,

1637
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's what I was thinking.

1638
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 3: And also today two things today, Yeah, two things. Number one,

1639
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: when you're talking about all these non professional quote unquote

1640
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 3: professionals out there, the.

1641
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: Thing is for a lot of them, I don't have

1642
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: to respect you.

1643
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: And a lot of times the people that respect these

1644
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 3: people think it's something wrong with you for not respecting

1645
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 3: them because they're not professionals. You know, when you and

1646
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: you go a you might want to contact your doctor. Hey,

1647
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 3: you might want to talk to you like your therapists.

1648
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 3: Don't tell me what your therapist said. Don't take the

1649
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 3: therapist's words and go online and quote and dance. I

1650
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 3: don't know your mental condition. I don't know what you

1651
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: actually need. This is the person that has your medical records,

1652
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: your family history and shit like this.

1653
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: They would know more than me. Don't listen to a.

1654
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: Bunch of strangers that do not fucking know you. And

1655
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 3: so no, I don't have to respect their opinions, you know,

1656
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: and they like I say, people that like there's something

1657
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 3: wrong with you when I don't have to respect their opinions.

1658
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: And also something else I want to point out when

1659
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,799
Speaker 3: I was talking about how do you have the extremes

1660
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: on the left and have the extremes on the right.

1661
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: A lot of the extremes on the left, like you say,

1662
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: people can quote unquote identify those like your Q andons

1663
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: all that stuff. When it comes to the extremes on

1664
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: the left, for some people, they can't see it because

1665
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: they're in it. Like a lot of the lives about

1666
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,879
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, a lot of the shit about your Biden,

1667
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: a lot of the misinformation and how people were saying, hey,

1668
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 3: and't do nothing.

1669
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: All that shit was the extreme on the left.

1670
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: But if you tell people, hey, some of that shit

1671
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 3: that y'all are spouting and retweeting and reposting affected body

1672
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 3: having to step down. All this retweeting and reposting and

1673
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: and acting like you know, the worst, the worst.

1674
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, some of that ship came from Russia, all

1675
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:12,520
Speaker 1: that retweeted.

1676
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: But but see, they can always point to the left

1677
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 3: and be like, hi, hi, y'all are stupid.

1678
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: Y'all are dune. I mean that talk to the right

1679
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: and go hi, hi, y'all are stupid.

1680
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 3: Y'all are dumb because their quote unquote on the opposite team.

1681
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I agree. But but but.

1682
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: When it comes to the left side, everybody wants to act,

1683
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: they want to do shit, and let's say, throw the

1684
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: throw the rock and hide the handkn ACKed like they didn't.

1685
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to do with the lives being spread.

1686
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to do with with Kamala losing.

1687
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to do with the misinformation. They

1688
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: didn't have anything to do with none of that ship

1689
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 3: that didn't know I didn't have anything to do it.

1690
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: But you was got too, You would got too. You

1691
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: would just got on the opposite side. That's all that means.

1692
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: And so you need to vet shit, and and and

1693
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: and I think we live in in the age where

1694
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 3: it's uh, the internet may make it hard to that shit,

1695
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 3: so I get it.

1696
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the media.

1697
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: They say the media is the message, which, uh, you know,

1698
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: I definitely understand and agree with that idiom.

1699
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: But I would say with social.

1700
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 2: Media, the media is the medium, meaning it is the

1701
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: it is the venue, it is the road, it is

1702
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 2: the place like you are, it is the locality. Like

1703
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: it's like living in a virtual reality. This place now

1704
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: has different rules, Like it's like it's you know, the

1705
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: media is the message. Could be like, well, if you

1706
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: hear something on TV, that's the different, like it sends

1707
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: a different message than in print. I feel you, but

1708
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: we are now living in it. It was like the

1709
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: media was not interactive before, meaning the if you got

1710
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: a newspaper, I was not part of the conversation with

1711
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: that newspaper, so I could read whatever my feelings were

1712
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: on it were between me and myself and I and

1713
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: that article that I read. Now we exist in this

1714
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 2: feedback loop where like the TikToker tells me something and

1715
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm in the comments the podcast says something, I'm leaving

1716
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: a reply the YouTuber said something, and I'm making them

1717
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: a response to YouTube video. Like we are existing in

1718
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: the place where the message is supposed to happen, and

1719
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: the messages are not necessarily vetted. There's not regulation here

1720
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: and the way that there is in new media before

1721
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: this now listen, a lot of this, as I said earlier,

1722
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 2: is because those tent poles have fallen created very real

1723
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: issues which made us have to go to our own devices.

1724
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1725
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: They could not figure out a way to necessarily monetize

1726
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: the media in a way that was sustainable once social

1727
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: media and the Internet came into it.

1728
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: And that's a very real issue, it is.

1729
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: And what happened is they start having to let They

1730
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: let the editors go, They had to stop vetting the

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: as much information. They laid people off, they stopped local news. Billionaires,

1732
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: people with money came in and bought them up and said,

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01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: you guys are going to say what I want you

1734
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: to say Los Angeles Times. I'm a Trump supporter, and

1735
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: I own you. You are no longer talking about Donald

1736
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: Trump in a negative way. So this only fuels the

1737
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: amount of distrust in these institutions, which then of course

1738
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: goes who cannot trust Joe Rogan or my favorite TikToker

1739
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: or whoever. And it leads us here but with your

1740
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: but unlike with the new York Times or the La

1741
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: Times or whatever was came before that you didn't trust.

1742
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: Now you're existing in this spear with this person. You

1743
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 2: weren't having a conversation with Ted Copple. Ted Copple wasn't

1744
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: really responding to you, right, he wasn't reading your comments.

1745
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 2: Now we are here in this place where you say something,

1746
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: and you could be a random stranger on Twitter and

1747
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: you say something about you don't like something Pat McAfee,

1748
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: you might be on the Summer Jam screen tomorrow with

1749
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: him being like, Hey, I'm on ESPN and I'm holding

1750
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: the entire weight of my platform on your ass because

1751
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 2: I didn't like that shit you said to me on Twitter,

1752
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: which is something that would have been completely unprofessional and

1753
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 2: shut down yes ten fifteen years ago. Like you're an editor,

1754
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: someone in charge. Hey, I know you don't like what

1755
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: that person said, but your job isn't to be here

1756
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: fighting people because they said some.

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 1: Shit you on Twitter? What the news?

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've lost that and so I you know,

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01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: it's like I said, I think I brought up this

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01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 2: example the other day my girl uh Naima from Naima

1761
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: and Genisia from Why Am I driving a blank?

1762
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: On that podcast t with Queen and Jay Thank you.

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01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 2: But she had brought up like how Lizo went on

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01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: on this is on social media. I'm not like there's

1765
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 2: no shade or nothing, but she brought up how Lizo

1766
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: went on Kicky Palmer's podcast, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: you know why they do that because media journalism itself

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: became so fucking deregulated that it really became less beneficial

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01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: or equally, actually, I say less beneficial, because what the

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01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: reason you would go on an Oprah show or Gail

1771
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: Kings show and Gail would ask you some tough questions

1772
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: and you, honestly, as much as people think celebrities don't

1773
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: want that your pr people want that. They want you

1774
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: to get a couple because one, it makes jealous people

1775
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: feel like you got grilled a little bit, right, you're accountable,

1776
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: got you got scolded, you got your hand tapped, and

1777
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: then once they feel you paid a little bit of

1778
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: a price, then you can go back to being a

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01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: celebrity partying and getting their money. Many a celebrity has

1780
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: gone through it. If anything, people kind of see through

1781
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: it now, you know. Chris Brown goes on Larry King

1782
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: and everybody's rolling their eyes. But we but but the

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 2: point being they used to do that all the time.

1784
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: But at this point, I bet you an.

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 2: Interview with Keky Palmer is getting more attention than the

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01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: interview with Gail King on ABC, or at least it's

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01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: rivaling the attention. And in addition to that, because of

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01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: how people feel about actual journalism, they don't want it.

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01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: They want these people sucking off their stars. They want

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01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: these people being soft places to land, or if they

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01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: don't like the person, they want them being just like

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01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: mean to them the whole time. But no one's really

1793
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: invested in it for like can you get to the

1794
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: truth of it right? They're really more invested in like

1795
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: picking the team right. And the media people have played

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01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: along with it.

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01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Yes they have. There a lot of the problem why

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01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: they get bypaded.

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 3: They was like if the real journalism and the non

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01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 3: journalists are quote unquote tweeted the same, Like if.

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01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: You went to like tell me, if Lizo went to

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01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 2: Don Lemon, who's gonna be more satisfied with that interview

1803
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 2: than if she went to Key Palmer. It's the same

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01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 2: fucking thing to most of us. And Don Lemmon is

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01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: an actual person that was a news anchor, journalist and

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01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: all that shit. The vast majority of us would have

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01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: been like I would have rather stid talking to Key

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01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Key Palmer. That's just facts, that's the truth, and that's

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01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 2: what the celebrities give us. But the point being, these

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01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: tenth post of these institutions have been so sullied that

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01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: it has become a self fulfilling prophecy. So your conspiratorial

1812
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 2: people lean towards these places all bullshit, and eventually those

1813
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 2: places kind of became some bullshit, yes they did, you know,

1814
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: it became less vetted, it became less rigorous.

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01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: It became about we're not getting enough attention.

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01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: We can't play enough commercials during MSNBC to make money,

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01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: so we need to have some Republicans on that come

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01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,719
Speaker 2: and say misinformation in our face. And I can't look

1819
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: at Lizzo, who, essentially, whatever her issues are, are essentially

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01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: trifling in the sense of I don't mean she's trifling,

1821
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: but I mean those issues are very small compared to

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01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 2: the real issues of our world.

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01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Right, MSNBC can't handle the.

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01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Serious issues, Why the fuck do I care if they

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01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 2: can handle Lizzo's issues.

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: If ABC knew news can't handle Trump.

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01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: I don't really give a fuck if they can handle

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01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 2: uh Blake Lively, you know what I mean, Like both

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01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: of them become it all becomes the same level of

1830
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: unseriousness because of the medium that is happening on, which

1831
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 2: is mostly the Internet, and and and and the places

1832
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 2: that aren't the Internet have mirrored the Internet's uh structure

1833
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 2: and hierarchy, the half hierarchy, and to become that for

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01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: most of us. And so it's like an unseeriousness of

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01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 2: society that is just happening, Yeah, a post serious society

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01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 2: that we're just living through right now.

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01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

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01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 3: And also one more thing I wanted to talk about. Hold,

1839
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 3: something else I wanted to talk about too, was I

1840
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 3: was listening, not listening, but reading the pod news podcast,

1841
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean email that they sent out today and something

1842
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 3: when you talk about.

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01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: Image and the way people know. I saved this article. Okay,

1844
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: did you want to cover it then?

1845
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 2: I was gonna cover it in a different on a

1846
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 2: different day. But if you think that it can relate

1847
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: to this conversation, and go ahead and bring it up,

1848
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 2: and then I'll pull it up.

1849
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, when you were sorry about oh fuck, it

1850
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: won't let me read it. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

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01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: It's one of these ones whereas it's like if you're

1852
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: not a member, you can't read it, no problem, go ahead,

1853
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 2: go ahead, just go through the gist of it.

1854
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: We won't be able to read the whole article.

1855
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: Boo.

1856
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get it. No, go

1857
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: through the point you will go make okay, I'll figure

1858
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: something out.

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01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 3: My point of this when you would talking about image

1860
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 3: and you were talking about how to do wrote that

1861
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 3: book about television and how television has evolved and things

1862
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: like that.

1863
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: One thing about podcasting.

1864
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Podcasting used to be just a audio format for decades.

1865
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Most of the time men Roger did a podcast, it

1866
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 3: was years before we actually had any formal video. And

1867
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 3: so yo, how you looked literally did not matter, you know,

1868
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: your size, your weight, your color.

1869
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Or any of that stuff.

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01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 3: People would just kind of you know, because apple used

1871
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 3: to be basically, if anything, it was how you sounded, yes,

1872
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 3: more than how you look. People would criticize, even with me,

1873
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 3: but criticize us your southern you talk, you sound stupid,

1874
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: whatever they would say. But you know that would be

1875
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 3: the biggest quote unquote criticism because they couldn't see us

1876
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 3: and basically the article was saying how a lot of

1877
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 3: podcasts mediums are switching and literally having both now like

1878
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 3: you almost can't have a podcast without having a video.

1879
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Form to it, Like like it's almost.

1880
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: A mandatory nowadays that you are you do your podcast,

1881
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 3: you need to be recording it on whatever platforms, so

1882
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: you could be on YouTube, so you can be on

1883
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 3: Spotify wherever else you know they record. And basically the

1884
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 3: article was saying how a lot of women are, like

1885
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 3: everything else, are being criticized because you know, some of

1886
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 3: the women was like, hey, dog, like men can just

1887
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 3: show up any old fucking kind of way on their

1888
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: broadcast at their house, but as a woman, I can't

1889
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 3: come on here with makeup.

1890
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Joe Rogan and Joe Budden's makeup.

1891
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. They may get it, they may not.

1892
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: But it's never been a real conversation amongst anybody. But

1893
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 2: a woman shows up without, you know, lip gloss and

1894
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 2: her face beat to the gods.

1895
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1896
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 2: It's one of the things I said about TikTok that

1897
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: has always bothered me. But and I think it's the

1898
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: reason they never took for me, is that people were

1899
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: treating it like, oh no, it's just kind of like

1900
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 2: video Twitter. And I said, the fact that if you

1901
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: go to TikTok, everybody looks for the most part. Obviously

1902
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: it's not everybody, but so many people have to look

1903
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: conventionally attractive in order to gain a.

1904
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Level of following there. Yes, and.

1905
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 2: They got busted on the algorithm because they had employees

1906
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 2: come out and be like, yeah, we were told to

1907
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: limit the amount of content from certain people. So if

1908
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 2: you were overweight, if you were older, if your makeup

1909
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 2: wasn't great, we were told, don't put them people on

1910
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 2: the front page, don't put them in the algorithm, suppress

1911
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: that shit. And I'm like, this is to me, as

1912
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 2: much as people treat that place like it's the Freedom

1913
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 2: Land or whatever, that shit is just as fucked up.

1914
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: It's just a different way of being fucked up. But yeah,

1915
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 2: it's uh, I mean, I agree with you completely. And

1916
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: I thought I saw that article this morning too about that,

1917
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: and yeah, and I think where it really ties in

1918
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 2: is the media is the medium, meaning you have to

1919
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: accept the rules of this new place. This isn't before

1920
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 2: where it was just like you're reading the newspaper and

1921
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: you put it down and that's the end. Like, no,

1922
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: you must accept the rules of the new place, and

1923
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: the rules are your face needs to be made up.

1924
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: When you go to video format of a podcast, they

1925
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 2: want to see your full body. They don't want you

1926
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: wearing a snug. They want to see what your outfit was.

1927
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 2: They want to see the back of your house. They

1928
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 2: want to Like, it's different for a lot of people,

1929
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 2: and the refusal to play the game, how many fucking

1930
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 2: can are we gonna get? You know, Like it's been

1931
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 2: thousands of episodes. People still even weird ass comments where

1932
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 2: it's just like you're not playing the game, Ryan and Karen.

1933
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's such an interesting thing because they don't

1934
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: see it as Hey, you know what, I'm just here

1935
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: for the content of them talking about whatever. Why does

1936
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: it would it matter to me if she wants to

1937
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: wear her Eminem's fucking code or not.

1938
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter? Does it really fucking matter?

1939
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Does it change any other information you received, any joke,

1940
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: any No, And I'm not saying they mean anything bad.

1941
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not picking on us.

1942
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 2: The media is the media that we're not playing by

1943
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Speaker 2: the rules that we're supposed to be playing by, And

1944
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 2: a lot of it is because we don't really have to.

1945
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Speaker 2: We're not trying to make our name. We're already making

1946
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: our money. We're happy with the life that we've had,

1947
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 2: We're happy with the money we've made, and so we're

1948
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Speaker 2: not chasing something now. If we had started this podcast yesterday,

1949
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 2: who fucking knows what we be doing, we might be

1950
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Speaker 2: up here and fucking h g strings, I don't know what, Like,

1951
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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know what the rule is, because

1952
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: then you need to you know, like the rules have

1953
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 2: been set and you're not gonna make a But we

1954
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: we have a stable amount of people that just fuck

1955
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Speaker 2: with us, so we're not having to to really go

1956
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Speaker 2: all out. But anyway, I'm I say and yeah, because

1957
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 2: like I said, over over the years, I've just realized

1958
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 2: this and people's that's.

1959
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Speaker 1: People knowingly and unknowingly do this, like you say.

1960
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Speaker 3: With the audio version, NPR says that they have a

1961
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Speaker 3: phone line and they have uh callers and like inboxes

1962
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Speaker 3: today email that they just automatically UH send a reply

1963
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Speaker 3: to a jump for keywords because people are emailed and

1964
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Speaker 3: called them by women's voices.

1965
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Speaker 2: As NPR is not a visible meeting, they don't like

1966
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Speaker 2: vocal Friday don't like women saying like a lot, yeah,

1967
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Speaker 2: ship like that. NPR just basically says, we get that

1968
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Speaker 2: call so many times, we're just not going to acknowledge

1969
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 2: it or reply to it. But this is now like

1970
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Speaker 2: a feature. This is part of doing the podcast as.

1971
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Speaker 3: A woman, and it could become very frustrate, like I said,

1972
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 3: and particularly me doing this over the years, and I've

1973
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 3: had people, you know, say things, you know, like hey,

1974
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: you know about me not wearing makeup and things like that,

1975
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Speaker 3: but I don't care. And the thing is, I am

1976
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Speaker 3: comfortable enough in my own skin not to care, and

1977
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Speaker 3: I am happy and I am content, you know with that,

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Speaker 3: you know, because also it's one of those things where

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01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 3: people project a lot of times when they write in

1980
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 3: and call in and things like that, you know, particularly

1981
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Speaker 3: when they kind of aim towards a woman, and a

1982
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 3: lot of these podcasts their own personal projection, own personal issues,

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Speaker 3: whatever those internal things are projecting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally understand, and I remember all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I think, yeah, anyway, I'm not sure

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01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 2: it's the exact same thing, but I as far as

1987
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 2: like are what we originally started on the expertise and

1988
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: the people telling you not to trust your doctors and

1989
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 2: all this shit. But it definitely is part of this,

1990
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Speaker 2: Like the media is the medium because the reason that

1991
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: a lot of the reason that they do that stuff

1992
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 2: and that you see it is because it's such a

1993
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 2: personal media that we put out where they can believe

1994
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 2: comments and you will see them and they can leave

1995
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: an emailing you and get a response and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But you know, but it doesn't change anything. The difference

1997
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Speaker 2: is they used to do that to the news anchors,

1998
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 2: but the news anchors just didn't have.

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Speaker 1: To see it.

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Speaker 2: And obviously there was a lot of professionals between the

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01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: news anchor and that camera that said, even if people

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01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 2: are saying stuff about you, you're here to do the weather.

2003
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: You're not here to come up here and say, hey,

2004
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: you're not gonna talk bad about my heef.

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01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,520
Speaker 1: It was something else's job to filter through that bullshit.

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01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm saying even if it got to you, right,

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01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 2: whether it filtered through you or not. Like you know,

2008
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 2: my friend, our friend Nachelle works in media, she works

2009
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 2: in news, and she's like, yeah, people say horrible stuff

2010
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: about the anchors and horrible stuff about their bodies and everything.

2011
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 2: But the difference is it was a professional space that

2012
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 2: did not allow for them to go on the air

2013
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 2: and have a retort, because that's not what you're there for.

2014
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: You're there for the weather or traffic or given the news.

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Speaker 2: And we've lost that because the deregulation of what professionalism

2016
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 2: is has led us to a place where it's like you,

2017
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 2: you are gonna go in there and yell at the

2018
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 2: person that didn't like your makeup or that wants you

2019
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: to wear a snuggie or things I need to make

2020
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 2: it hotter in here or something like that, you know, like.

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01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: It's regular anyway, you trying to freeze me to death, sir?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this went on a long ass tangent that I

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01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 2: didn't mean to go on, but it was very fun

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Speaker 2: and I think it was a good conversation and you

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Speaker 2: probably won't hear many other places, so you know, hopefully

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Speaker 2: people enjoyed that. This is the last episode until the

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01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: feedback show. I wanted to end it on something a

2028
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 2: little more fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we can, Well, we'll do some sword ratchiness.

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Speaker 4: Okay that always had always cheers everybody down?

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Speaker 1: Uh, where's my sword ratchiness? Sound?

2032
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Speaker 4: Affect everybody?

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Speaker 1: All Right? Here we go.

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Speaker 5: And a Medford man is in jail after allegedly attempting

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Speaker 5: to murder another man with a sword. Twenty four year

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Speaker 5: old Marzelle Culver has been charged with attempted murder, first

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Speaker 5: degree assaults, first.

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Speaker 1: Degree first another pos right here? That used to be

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01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: a pizza hunt. Yes, that was a That was a

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01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: piece of hut with it all you could eat buffet.

2041
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we old because every time I see

2042
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 2: certain the red seats and red cops.

2043
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't care what color you painted. Now. That shit

2044
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: was a piece of hunt.

2045
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 2: Yes, up, piece of hut. You can't disguise the disguise

2046
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: because you ain't changed the roof. Nobody pieces like the hoot. Okay, right,

2047
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: you turning it blue, but it used to be red.

2048
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 2: You ain't fool to me.

2049
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what sign you put on.

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Speaker 5: The outside right, burglary and first degree attempted assault. At

2051
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 5: around six pm last night, police responded to the one

2052
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 5: thousand block of Batty Streets for a report of a stabbing.

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01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 5: Responders discovered a man bleeding profusely from his deep or

2054
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,799
Speaker 5: rather from deep cuts on his head, neck and arms.

2055
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 5: He was rushed to the hospital while police spoke with

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01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 5: the man's roommates, who said she witnessed the whole thing.

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01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 2: She was kind of startled because of suspect.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, just entered the door, enter the house,

2059
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 3: went over, immediately to the wall of swords, grabbed the

2060
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 3: sword and just went into.

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Speaker 2: The kit Okay, what okay, okay, I don't mean to victim,

2062
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna have to do it. Why the fuck

2063
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: do you have a wall of swords? Is this fucking showgun?

2064
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Why do you have a wall of swords? Do you

2065
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 2: work for the fucking the Emperor of Japan? Why do

2066
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 2: you have a wall of swords? This makes no fucking sense.

2067
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: Your house should not have a wall of sorts. Are

2068
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 2: you taking on the lanisters? There's no fucking reason in

2069
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for you to have a wall of

2070
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 2: sores inside of your motherfucking house. Of course you got stabbed,

2071
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 2: of course, what I mean, I won't have some sympathy,

2072
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,520
Speaker 2: but come on, man, damn.

2073
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 3: Kitchen started attacking the mail without even saying a word.

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Speaker 5: Culvert then allegedly went after the roommate as well, but

2075
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 5: she was able to escape to another room. Culvert was

2076
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 5: not unseen when the responders arrived, leading it might.

2077
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Speaker 2: Even be the story from yesterday. I feel like we

2078
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 2: covered this.

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Speaker 5: To a search of the area, he was located and

2080
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 5: arrested at Riverside in Tenth Street. In the interview with Culvert,

2081
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 5: police say Culvert admitted to the attack with the intent

2082
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 5: the intent to kill the man. Culvert allegedly said this

2083
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 5: was because he was banned from the home.

2084
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did, Rea, So this is just the

2085
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: article of it. Okay, that's the video because I think

2086
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: you read Hey, yeah, I think I read it. But

2087
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: still it's even works on video.

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Speaker 2: You had, Well, why did you They didn't mention a

2089
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: wall of sores. Maybe they knew I wouldn't be sympathetic

2090
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: in print. They didn't mention it in print. I got

2091
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 2: like a different story.

2092
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,679
Speaker 1: Shout out the editors. Some of them came in and said,

2093
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 1: not on my watch.

2094
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 2: They said, don't put that in there because Rod gonna

2095
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 2: be like, and that's why you gotta stabb I should

2096
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 2: have stabbed him. O, I would do a different one.

2097
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: Then the woman arrested for attacking a neighbor with a sword.

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01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 6: A woman is now in jail for attacking her neighbor

2099
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 6: with this sword. It happened on Friday an apartment building

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01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 6: near Sprague in South Adams in Spokane Valley. When Spokane

2101
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 6: County Sheriff's deputies arrived, they found forty three year old

2102
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 6: Elizabeth Pittassek fighting to get control of that sort. The

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01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 6: investigator say Petassick knocked on the victim's door that morning.

2104
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 6: He opened the door slightly and asked if Patasick needed anything.

2105
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 6: She said no, then return home. A few minutes later,

2106
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,839
Speaker 6: the victim says he could hear Pittasick screaming in her apartment.

2107
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 6: As the victim was leaving his apartment to take his

2108
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 6: two teenagers to school, Patassick lunged at him with the sword.

2109
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Speaker 6: The victim blocked the sword with his hand and pinned

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Speaker 6: her against the wall.

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Speaker 1: To protect the kids.

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Speaker 6: Deputies eventually got Pittasick to drop that sword and took

2113
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Speaker 6: her into custody. Investigators say she made statements to deputies

2114
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Speaker 6: that suggest she may have been suffering from a mental

2115
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Speaker 6: health crisis.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Wow, it was scary too, that shit

2117
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 2: like somebody dune.

2118
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: And amazing to realize your daddy got some superpowers. You'd

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01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,520
Speaker 1: be like, oh, daddy, you was a badass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, blocking. I wondered the way they described blocking it

2121
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 2: with his hand. I had assumed at first he like

2122
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: got stabbed through the hand, But now I wonder if

2123
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 2: he like literally like deflected it and held this because

2124
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 2: it's because they didn't mention any injuries, right, so maybe

2125
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 2: he fucking shadow kicked that shit.

2126
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2127
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Speaker 3: They Daddy used to be an undercover agent, and it

2128
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,520
Speaker 3: was like, damn Daddy.

2129
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 2: He yelled out of out loud of anime moveing blocked right,

2130
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,560
Speaker 2: It's like lightning blade deflection.

2131
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Speaker 1: What call no one one? I'm like, Daddy, why are

2132
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: you glowing? Right?

2133
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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, that's it. We'll be back Saturday for feedback.

2134
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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, everybody. Don't forget live show tickets

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Speaker 2: are on sales.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be February twenty eighth. I'm excited that in Charlotte,

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, there are verse tickets in case you can't

2139
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 2: make it and you want to watch it online as

2140
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 2: well as in person tickets.

2141
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Speaker 1: So make sure you guys, uh come see us.

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Speaker 2: We want to see your faces, all right, all right,

2143
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Speaker 2: y'all pretty, we all want to see you pretty people,

2144
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Speaker 2: all right, y'all until next time, I love you,