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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a lead game

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Speaker 1: announced by Joe Davis.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Westling podcast studio with my friends Patrick Claybon

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Rodrigu. Yes, we're starting with Rams and Eagles today.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed that's like a Joe Davis game. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's been a lot of great games for

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Speaker 1: Joe Davis. I live in Los Angeles, watch Joe Davis

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Speaker 1: almost every night with the Dodgers. To me, he's now

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Speaker 1: among the best of the very best. And yes, this

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Speaker 1: is NFL Daily. Yes, I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: No, because Joe Davis deserves the love, and we start

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Speaker 3: the show with the appropriate amount of love for Joe Davis.

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Speaker 1: Also, he's doing the Dublin game next week. And I

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Speaker 1: may or may not have been invited to a NFL

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Speaker 1: Network slash Fox team dinner in which Joe Davis will

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Speaker 1: be in attendance and Greg Olsen, So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be cool enough exciting Greg.

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Speaker 4: Greg Olson's been on our show. You should be able

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Speaker 4: to go up and talk to him.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a conversation with Greg and g Reg

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Speaker 3: and Joe it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: Triple G and I do have their if not, I

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Speaker 1: do have their emails now, and I could totally break

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Speaker 1: code and like just send him love for his show. Hey,

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Speaker 1: tiny coss, I'll shut up about that.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a potential podcast. Yeah, three g's and three legs.

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Speaker 3: Let's start here with our very first game. Yes, it's

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Speaker 3: Joe Davis, g Reg and Pam Oliver the Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: Rams at the Philadelphia Eagles, who are favored by three

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Speaker 3: and a half points. The over under is forty five

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Speaker 3: and a half. It was, in my estimation, the best

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Speaker 3: game in the playoffs last season. The Eagles gave the

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Speaker 3: Rams gave the Eagles every single thing they could possibly have.

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Speaker 3: How do things go this time?

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Speaker 2: Greg, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the idea of the Rams as

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Speaker 1: a home I mean a road underdog here because I

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Speaker 1: think they're maybe catching the Eagles at the right time

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Speaker 1: of year.

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Speaker 2: It is a similar time a year where the.

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Speaker 1: Eagles weren't quite the Eagles, and you think about what

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Speaker 1: they are on offense right now, which is I would

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Speaker 1: say stagnant would be a word I would use. Constricted

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Speaker 1: would be another word. Maybe predictable, Kevin Patulo taking a

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Speaker 1: little bit of fire in Philadelphia over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, they've they've won both their games. But ultimately

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Speaker 1: this is a big step up I believe in class

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Speaker 1: in terms of the front that they are facing after

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Speaker 1: going up against the Cowboys and going against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: to have to deal with this Rams front, I think

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Speaker 1: is going to present more problems for this Eagles offense

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Speaker 1: even that they face so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and for the YouTube watchers, viewers, fast channel viewers,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing the Jared Verse versus the Philadelphia Eagles fans

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Speaker 4: thumbs down double thumbs down because you can't do a

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Speaker 4: double bird that would be rude. But doing the double

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Speaker 4: thumbs down because a lot of talk will be about,

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Speaker 4: and rightfully so, Jared Verse in this game after his

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Speaker 4: comments about how much he did despise Philadelphia Eagles fans

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Speaker 4: heading into the playoff game last year. This is a

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Speaker 4: revenge game, question mark, because there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: layers to this the front. First of all, to your point, Greg,

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of those guys, Kobe Turner and

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Speaker 4: Braden fist yeared Verse, they are going to get a

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Speaker 4: lot of chatter leading up to this game. I want

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Speaker 4: to shout out Byron Young, who over the first two

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Speaker 4: weeks of this season is playing like one of the

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Speaker 4: best edge rushers in the NFL. Often kind of gets

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Speaker 4: under the radar a little bit because of the guys

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Speaker 5: But he's young too.

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Speaker 4: He's only a third year pass rusher and right now

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Speaker 4: he has contributed the fifth most in defensive EPA of

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Speaker 4: any defensive player in the NFL over the first two games.

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Speaker 4: That's courtesy of Tage seth Over at sumer Sports. He

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Speaker 4: is playing two sacks, two sacks and a forced fumble.

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Speaker 4: Going against the run was a weak spot for him

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Speaker 4: his rookie season, and he's really cleaned that up. This

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Speaker 4: is going to be a test for Jalen Hurts Saquon

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Speaker 3: I think what we saw last year, especially in the game,

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Speaker 3: it's so far because Saquan had all those explosive runs

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Speaker 3: last season, he had three seventy yard runs. All of

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Speaker 3: his seventy yard runs. We're against the Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 3: in this great group of pass rushers who kind of

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles. Regardless of like you know, the crowd

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Speaker 3: the run. I think ultimately it comes down to that,

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Speaker 3: because that's that's where you want to test this Rams

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Speaker 3: result results thus far just trying to sit back there

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Speaker 3: good for anybody. And I see the Eagles pass game again,

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Speaker 3: as Jalen Hurts will point out to Chris Jones and

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Speaker 3: anybody else, they are winning, they haven't looked as explosive

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Speaker 3: as they did at parts of last season, especially in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they hope Pooniford and Nate land Man really show

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Speaker 4: up that they have so far against the run and

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Speaker 4: short passing game. Nate land Man has kind of been

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Speaker 4: a wild man all over the field, punching out footballs

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Speaker 4: the other side of the ball, I don't think people

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Speaker 4: realize like how much that game, that loss in the

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Speaker 4: very final two throws in the snow affected the Rams

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Speaker 4: postseason plan. Not only was it a catalyst for them

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Speaker 4: was also, hey, we got to change the center out.

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Speaker 4: Bow Limber, the rookie was unfortunately on the wrong end

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Speaker 4: of a savvy veteran move pulled by Jalen Carter in

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Speaker 4: the middle of that Eagles defense, sort of a false

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Speaker 4: step that sent bau Limmer off in one direction and

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Speaker 4: gave him a clean shot at Jalen Carter, a clean

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Speaker 4: shot at Matthew Stafford right up the gut, and that

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously you know hurts the Rams Right at

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Speaker 4: the end there they replaced bo Limber with it a

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Speaker 4: veteran that they are used to Coleman Shelton, who obviously

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Speaker 4: had played with Matthew Stafford before and elsewhere on the interior.

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Speaker 4: Concerned about this front because Justin Dietitsch, who is about

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Speaker 4: at left guard because Steve Ovula's status is still in question.

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Speaker 1: That worries me because Matthew Stafford has actually faced the

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Speaker 1: most quick pressure of any quarterback in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: my question for the Eagles, do they have enough upfront

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Speaker 1: on paper, but Zadaria Smith in like fifteen twenty snaps

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Speaker 1: last week had more quarterback hits in the sack than

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Speaker 1: So so far, they've been playing very well on the

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Speaker 3: Well, it was very hid. It may have been making

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Speaker 2: That one was confusing. I've heard it talked about who.

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Speaker 4: Knows lair vic Fangio has had on the opposite of

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Speaker 4: Quinnon Mitchell, who vic Fango's had circled on his whiteboard

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Speaker 4: since the summer. You know, they have questions in that secondary.

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Speaker 1: I almost thought that, Yeah, the Rams almost made too

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Speaker 1: were they, Like they mentioned it in their season ticket

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Speaker 1: renewal letter of like, we were just a couple of

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Speaker 1: it's been a big conversation just that one moment. I

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Speaker 1: remember the other game too, which is completely one sided.

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Speaker 1: And that that is what you worry about if you're

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Speaker 1: But and this is really a test because the Rams,

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Speaker 1: their defensive numbers are crazy so far this year, but

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Speaker 1: the matchups have been favorable against the Titans and the

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Speaker 1: Texans offensive lines. Like, I'm excited, I'm also excited to

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Speaker 1: see how Jalen Carter responds to Vic say, and he

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Speaker 1: was not in really good shape. That was that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I'm more concerned about him playing essentially with

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Speaker 3: am about his I think he'll be fine shape wise,

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Speaker 3: you know, although I'll say it every week, playing football

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Speaker 3: best thing to be healthy, would not be to play football,

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Speaker 3: but him being able to is probably a better son.

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Speaker 4: A couple other injury notes on the Rams side of

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Speaker 4: Kello Witherspoon, who was entering the season starting at corner

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Speaker 4: to ir They want to bring him back. He's a

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Speaker 4: broken clavical. Sean McVay also on the injury report this

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Speaker 4: game last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, I know, breaking news to me.

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Speaker 5: Getting old sucks, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he played through it, he coached through it.

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Speaker 1: That was That was a great job by him. I

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Speaker 1: bush like, stop whining this, stop whinny about Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: that's something that's been happening a lot, and that happens

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Speaker 4: Purp and I will say, and and the whining by

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Speaker 4: the way to the point where they're talking about it

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Speaker 4: in these early week press. First of all, Sean McVeagh

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Speaker 4: on the Competition Committee let the charge alongside old pal

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Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur to try to get this thing banned because

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Speaker 4: and I quote, he did not like the way it looked.

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Speaker 4: It does not look like a football play quote unquote,

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Speaker 4: but I recognize that I'm being a hater because I

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Speaker 4: can't stop it. So that's where there's layers to this.

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Speaker 4: I bet the Eagles are gonna run it special. They're

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Speaker 4: gonna run it at him like sixteen times in this

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Speaker 4: keep them on a long third down.

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Speaker 1: Also a sneaky revenge game for Emmanuel Forbes, who's having

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Speaker 1: a nice little career resurgence against AJ Brown because AJ

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Speaker 1: Brown all but ended his commander's career by just destroying

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Speaker 1: him a couple times.

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Speaker 2: And so the layers to this, that'll be a big test.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you guys pick this game just because

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Speaker 1: it's the one game I'll do that with on this show.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going Rams. I'm leaning Rams. I'm making

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Speaker 1: you pick Jordan.

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Speaker 5: You know I'm going to pick the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Oh I sent these picks in Yep, I picked the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Now I'm switching it to the Egos Center show.

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Speaker 2: Strategically, it seems domb all right.

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Speaker 3: Our next NFC matchup, which we are starting with today

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Speaker 3: on this preview edition of The Daily The Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: who are favored by one half of a point against

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Speaker 3: the zero to two Chicago Bears, the over under forty

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Speaker 4: That's right, it's the Dallas Cowboys. That Brian Schottenheimer sons

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Speaker 4: And I called it the Schottenheimer sounds. What's not to love?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, between Tyler Booker and Tyler Smith, I've not

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Speaker 2: They honestly the Panhandles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the actual pandles to the pan and bears offense.

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Speaker 3: That has been spotty. But another reason for optimism. Romo

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's over.

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Speaker 3: That one was over almost as soon as it starts.

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Speaker 1: He's not playing with a full deck, that's for sure,

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Speaker 1: the lack of adjustments last week to the Giants was mystifying.

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Speaker 7: I thought as a whole that that team they were,

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Speaker 7: I think our practice habits are are yet to reflect

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Speaker 5: He was pretty open about it.

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Speaker 1: And so you think about the younger players like Luther

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Speaker 5: I think everyone's gonna score.

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Speaker 1: Like Dak's numbers against pressure is just are just absolutely insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's reasons to feel good about the Bears offense.

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff creaked his way up there. He got there

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the biggest problem with the Bears was not

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Speaker 3: to our next game. It is a matchup we've been

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Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals are playing at the Minnesota Vikings on CBS.

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Speaker 3: Jim Knatz, Tony and Tracy Woolson on the call as Greg.

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Speaker 3: We get a chance to see if Carson Wentz can

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Speaker 3: starts in the NFL. And the Vikings have had one

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Speaker 3: of the lowest pass rates in the entire league with

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy as a starter, and probably him getting hurt

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Speaker 3: in that game may have influenced that as well, but

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Speaker 3: they'll be able to air it out more against the

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Speaker 3: defense that albeit had Trevor Lawrence play a categorically bad

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Speaker 3: game and still have a lot of statistical success in

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Speaker 3: that game. Yeah, I think it's hard to lean away

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Speaker 3: from as much success as the Bengals have had With

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Speaker 3: Jake browning quarterback. I think he's a quarterback that the

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback that comes in and takes chances, which I

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Speaker 3: think is what you need to have a guy running

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Speaker 3: there and try to play it safe and be no.

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Speaker 3: Jake Brown is going to get buckets. He may throw

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Speaker 3: three picks, He maybe have four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He is very Ryan Fitzpatrick and I've heard dan Orlowski

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Speaker 1: talk about this. He regrets not playing more like Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick when you're ripping it at practice and then you

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Speaker 1: get into the real game and you just try to

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Speaker 1: play it safe. And Jake Browning, who doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: massive arm or anything, knows he has the best weapons.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're including Chase brown And I think

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Speaker 1: he's really important for this game of just about any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. I mean, he's just thrown it

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Speaker 1: up there to Mitchell Tinsley, and Mitchell Tinsley's making him

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Speaker 1: look smart like he did in the preseason. And this

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Speaker 1: Vikings defense is a lot to prepare for. And this

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Speaker 1: offensive line I don't think is up for the challenge.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty fifth or worse in pass block win rate

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Speaker 1: and pass run block or rather a run block win rate.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they are going to be up for

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Speaker 1: the challenge, but I don't think it will be from

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Speaker 1: him not like trying to use all his weapons and

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Speaker 1: being aggressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because they have to try to run

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Speaker 4: the ball and they have to try to settle things

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Speaker 4: in If you're the Bengals, Minnesota invested a great deal

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Speaker 4: into their front and their defensive front, and they kind

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Speaker 4: of need a bounce back game as well. They kind

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Speaker 4: of need to be dynamic and aggressive on the other side.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota's an offensive line also concerns me. This is somewhere

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Speaker 4: that they really really invested in and it's one of

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Speaker 4: the reasons why I think that Kevin O'Connell and West

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Speaker 4: Phillip should give old pal Mike Lafleur a call because

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Speaker 4: of the run, the RPO and the design run game

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Speaker 4: that they built for Carson Wentz back in the last

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Speaker 4: game of the season.

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Speaker 5: That was Mike Lafluur's game plan.

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Speaker 4: Sean McVay kind of he was up in the booth

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Speaker 4: during that game and michaela Floor kind of built that out.

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Speaker 5: For Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 4: It was really successful using him as a run threat,

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Speaker 4: building out different layers that really were unscouted previously from

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Speaker 4: what they did and this will have this will be

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Speaker 4: the same. You're not really looking at the quarterback as

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Speaker 4: a running threat, but previously. You need to build in

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Speaker 4: as many unscouted looks as you can against this Vikings

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Speaker 4: or against the Bengals defense, but the line and mitigate

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Speaker 4: some of the risk on your line. Ryan Kelly is

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Speaker 4: in the concussion protocol. They're starting center backup tackle justin school.

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Speaker 4: Also in the concussion protocol, this is getting a little

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Speaker 4: bit frightening. There's the second most sacks allowed through the

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Speaker 4: first two games.

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Speaker 1: I think the question is like, how much does getting J. J.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy out of the lineup help out everyone else? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to wonder if krit Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: is an upgrade at least in terms of the offensive

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Speaker 1: line structure and getting the plays called out on time.

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Speaker 1: It did seem like there was a lot of confusion

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Speaker 1: and he was moving in slow motion.

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Speaker 2: We hit that a lot on Tuesday show.

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Speaker 1: They might get Christian Darisa back, who practice fully for

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Speaker 1: the first time on Wednesday. They might also get Harrison

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Speaker 1: Smith back who's been out with an illness. So those

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Speaker 1: are two positives there for the Vikings get away. I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for them because I'm going to see them in

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Speaker 1: Dublin next week and.

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Speaker 5: It can be and I'm always rooting for them.

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Speaker 2: For J. J.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy, you know, the schedule works out sometimes and you

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Speaker 3: play against the Minnesota Vikings defense, I mean, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals defense where Carson Wentz comes in and the

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Speaker 3: Bengals are giving up fifty one percent of their third downs,

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Speaker 3: like they're number thirty in the NFL. And so Carson

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Speaker 3: Wentz is going to come in, He's going to have success,

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Speaker 3: and people would be like, ah jaj McCarthy, it's the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: Like it's the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: It's fair just getting quarterbacks paid over there.

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Speaker 1: So if it's if he struggles, expect a lot of heat. Rightfully,

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Speaker 1: so I think I'm quescia dopamenta and the plan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for this offense in general, but especially for the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. I guess Kevin O'Connell is a huge say

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Speaker 1: in that. So he would take the into like hit.

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Speaker 1: Their two quarterbacks were Sam Howell and Brett Rippon all

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Speaker 1: off season and Sam Howell that didn't work out, like

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Speaker 1: they traded for him.

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Speaker 2: Brett Rippon is now the backup on the Bengals. Ben's game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Brett Rippon revenge game?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Well knock on wood. Hopefully, hopefully all the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks finish this game.

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Speaker 5: We're running out of backup quarterbacks. Everyone stay up.

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Speaker 2: Right, We're running out of like revenge games. There's a

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Speaker 2: revenge everywhere we look.

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Speaker 1: Let's take one quick break and we'll probably take another

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Speaker 1: in the show because we like to honk a little bit.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk a little Todd Bowle's

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Speaker 1: revenge game. That's a real they did him dirty back

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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily where twenty minutes later, I've, you know,

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Speaker 1: finally got Jordan's Tyler Dirden joke.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. It was a great joke.

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Speaker 3: Greg watched Fight Club in the Burg.

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Speaker 4: I'm condensed all twenty two fight Club.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, like the defining gen X movie, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about that?

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Speaker 2: That take it might be it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would prefer that be it instead of one

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Speaker 3: of those like other like any of those events of

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Speaker 3: on movies that seems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, weirdly like America. I think of like American Psycho,

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Speaker 1: just a mean of like just really right there in.

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Speaker 3: The wheel, Swinger's number one target and Vincelon movies that

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Speaker 3: second and then there's like wow, the cop Ones. Either way.

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Speaker 3: The New York Jets at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where

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Speaker 3: the Bucks are favored by seven after the calamity. No

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields this week ruled out with the concussion from

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Speaker 3: last week. The over under forty four and a half

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Speaker 3: Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, and Megan o'levy on the call. Jordan,

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Speaker 3: how do we expect things to go in this one?

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Speaker 5: You guys, I'm raising a gavel.

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Speaker 4: There's a gavel props order order order in the studio.

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Speaker 5: All rise, This meeting of the.

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Speaker 4: Amecca Aboo Club will now come to order. Buka's three

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Speaker 4: touchdowns lead all rookie receivers and receiving EPA and touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: and he's tied for first among all receivers, and he

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Speaker 4: did it in just thirteen targets, the lowest among other

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Speaker 4: receivers with at least three touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: You may be.

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Speaker 2: Seated, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was a cell phone standing up because Patrick, who's

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Speaker 1: already skying above me, is in the foreground and it

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Speaker 1: really is accentuated stood up.

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Speaker 3: I did. Oh oh oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Tough one.

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Speaker 1: It was tough to see Booka go through injuries last

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Speaker 1: week like that.

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Speaker 2: We clearly wasn't one hundred percent in that game and

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Speaker 2: have to.

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Speaker 1: Fight through it because you do worry about this offense

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Speaker 1: if he was hurt or if they had even one

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Speaker 1: more injury. They're a little thin, they've sneaky, not been

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Speaker 1: great on offense compared to a year ago. I think

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Speaker 1: the running game is awesome. I think Baker's made do

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Speaker 1: with what he has. But right now it's a group

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Speaker 1: that's missing two tackles and missing Chris Godwin and missing

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Speaker 1: Jalen McMillan, and you can kind of see it. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna they're having to be resourceful.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that helps them be resourceful is the

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Speaker 3: two guys in the backfield were making defenders miss, yes,

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Speaker 3: like they were on that final drive, which was essentially

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Speaker 3: a Bucky Irving display. Because you had a defense in

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texan that can do all this man coverage,

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Speaker 3: they can rush the passer, but when everybody's looking different ways,

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Speaker 3: like Baker can go charging down the field and then

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Speaker 3: you've got thirty feet of space around Bucky Irving for

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Speaker 3: a defender to make a tackle. And he was making

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Speaker 3: guys miss in phone boosts the entire game. And that's

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Speaker 3: the type of pressure that having these explosive players can

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Speaker 3: go for. And so it's the Jets are in a

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Speaker 3: tough situation just in general, and the Bucks, having the

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Speaker 3: schedule that they do, are coming in a little bit

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Speaker 3: banged up. Maybe they're only hurt but hope. But the

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Speaker 3: Jets are hurt as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm strongly considering taking the Jets again on our

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Speaker 1: Friday pick show, at least to cover the seven, maybe

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Speaker 1: not to win out right. I think the Bucks have

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Speaker 1: been doing well, but it's a short week for them,

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Speaker 1: and I do think the Jets are going to be

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Speaker 1: an inconsistent team that's better than they looked a week ago,

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Speaker 1: and that you're going to get a better game out

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Speaker 1: of them. The problem matchup wise is that Tod Bowles

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Speaker 1: is doing that thing again where he has one of

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Speaker 1: the best run defenses in the league, like he has

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Speaker 1: throughout a lot of his coaching tender even in New York,

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Speaker 1: they had some of the best run defenses literally in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, have been coached by Todd Bowles. And that's

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Speaker 1: how the Jets want to win. Whether it's Tyrod back there,

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Speaker 1: which it will be, you know, or Justin Fields, they

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Speaker 1: want to win on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Justin Fields has been ruled out already this week,

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Speaker 4: and he's in the concussion protocol, so that's significant. And

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Speaker 4: then on and the Jets are giving up, you know,

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Speaker 4: in technical term, a crapload of the yards in the

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Speaker 4: run game, and pretty much.

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Speaker 5: All over they did to the Bills last week.

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Speaker 4: But they you can run the ball on them and

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Speaker 4: against one of the better, if not one of the

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Speaker 4: best defenses overall pound for pound in the NFL sixty

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Speaker 4: three percent rushing success rate between the two backs, Bucky

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Speaker 4: Irving obviously leading the charge. This is going to be

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Speaker 4: a game where you're probably where you're going to be

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Speaker 4: missing Luke Gadecki because he aggregated a foot and aggravated

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Speaker 4: a foot injury, and Todd Bowles was saying he's probably

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Speaker 4: gonna miss multiple weeks. They're still waiting on tre And

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Speaker 4: Wurfs to come back, and they expect him back in October.

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Speaker 4: So if you hold it down and run the ball

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Speaker 4: really well, especially when teams aren't quite built to defend

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Speaker 4: the run just yet, that's winter ball, right. So if

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Speaker 4: you can run the ball really well and then you

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Speaker 4: play a little razzle dazzle Baker ball at the end

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Speaker 4: of the games, there, I think they're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. That's why I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be like a close game. We didn't mention on Tuesday's

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Speaker 1: show that Klijah Canty is out for the season with

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Speaker 1: a torn pectoral muscle, and I thought the Bucks finally

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Speaker 1: had found a really good four man pass rush and

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Speaker 1: Kancey it was five quarters, but was playing lights out

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Speaker 1: in those five quarters. So that's a big hurt, you know,

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Speaker 1: hit for them. I do want to see Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: just show a little more like adjustment. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of man coverage, it's a lot of confusion, I think

658
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Speaker 1: for a defense that shouldn't be that complicated. And he

659
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: also just needs some of his kiyak, you know, key

660
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: free agent pickups by Darren Mugi and him to play better.

661
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Jamie and Sherwood at linebacker has been like benchable, like

662
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: he's killing them. You've been through it before. The Brandon

663
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Stevens era in Baltimore was not, you know, fondly looked

664
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Speaker 1: upon one of the most surprising contracts. And then Michael

665
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Clemens is a guy who gets a crazy penalty every week.

666
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Speaker 1: Before we do move on for this game, I do

667
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Speaker 1: just want to read a quote to you guys on

668
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, like shout out to Tyrod Taylor starting games. Yeah,

669
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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five, I still remember him

670
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: as Joe Flacco's backup back in the day there was

671
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: a brief moment where he was the best running quarterback

672
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. And now he's still slanging it.

673
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: And here's Sas Gardner on Tyrod Taylor. He says, cool guy,

674
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: cool cat. He can dress, confident in himself. I think

675
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: he can get girls. I think he do.

676
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I ain't trying to get him

677
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: in trouble. I don't know.

678
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Speaker 1: But he's cool. He's cool for real on and off

679
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: the field. He stays so calm on the field, too

680
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: calm or a farming a bit.

681
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Speaker 2: I just love all of it. He does dress well.

682
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Speaker 5: That went in so many different directions.

683
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Speaker 1: I saw that and I was like, I need to

684
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Speaker 1: share this with as many people as I can.

685
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Full summary of the experience. Who was actually the starting

686
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: quarterback when Baker Mayfield was drafted. Baker Mayfield's first game

687
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: was on Thursday Night Football against the Jets, who fired

688
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: Todd Bowles. Multiple revenge aspects in play for this one.

689
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Santa Clara the Arizona Cardinals at the

690
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Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine. Ers were favored by one and

691
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Speaker 3: a half. The over under is forty three and a half.

692
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: We have a mutual Greg who says that Kyle Shanahan

693
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Speaker 3: is prone to say things that may be untrue. He

694
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: did say that there is a chance that Brock Perdy

695
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: plays in this game, whether or not he does. How

696
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: do you feel about the opportunity here in the division?

697
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: Both teams are to and up.

698
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Speaker 1: Not expected to play, but there's a chance. I feel

699
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Speaker 1: like gives him some cover. Just for the new listener,

700
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Speaker 1: I feel like you're referring to Cynthia Fuelan, who often

701
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: refers him as the lion liar who lies when it

702
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: comes to injury.

703
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: You may think it's redundant, but the phrase is out there.

704
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Speaker 1: I think it hammers at home. I love that the

705
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: winner of this game is going to be three and oh,

706
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: and it'll either be like Mac Jones or this Cardinals

707
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: team who's had a very favorable schedule to start the season.

708
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: Saints and Panthers has some concerns, but all they gotta

709
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Speaker 1: do is play well this week and beat a team

710
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Speaker 1: led by Mac Jones and force him into some turnovers,

711
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: and suddenly they could be three and oh. I'm gonna

712
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: have a hard time picking this game. I've not decided.

713
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: I am actually pretty worried about the Cardinals secondary because

714
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: Garrett Williams is going to go on injured reserve. Also,

715
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: by the way, kind of went under the radar because

716
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: they lost so many corners, but also defensive lineman LJ.

717
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 5: Collier is also going to go on serf.

718
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: Both of those guys are expected to be back, but

719
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: not obviously right away. Max Melton's gun of practice, which

720
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: is great. Will Johnson will not. He's dealing with a

721
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: groin injury. So this is a huge problem because Jonathan

722
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: Gannon loves to play a lot of dime, but he

723
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: likes to mix up his nickel and dime looks and

724
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: rotate coverages and shift things around quite a bit on

725
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: the back end, which then sets up his pressure plan

726
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: on the front. It's a rare team that plays sort

727
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: of back to front like that you see it sometimes

728
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: with these Fangio system coaches. This is tough because regardless

729
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: of who the quarterback is, and I assume it will

730
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Speaker 4: be Mac Jones because we've been through this Kyle Shanahan

731
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 4: experience before Ricky Piersall emerged as a bona fide deep

732
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: ball threat. And yes, the forty nine ers are banged

733
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Speaker 4: up and they have been banged up and they're missing

734
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 4: their starting quarterback. But Ricky Pearsol right now is averaging

735
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: twenty and a half yards per catch, which is leading

736
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: the league among receivers with ten or more catches.

737
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Speaker 1: So he's actually Alex Pierce Raser there, you know with

738
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Speaker 1: that last little part of that.

739
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or Alec you know, get you know, couple

740
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: more targets. Is Alec cove more target. We'll get to

741
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: him a bit, cover more targets, got to set clean parameters,

742
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: you know. But I think that that's where I actually,

743
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: I really worry about this Cardinal secondary and I think

744
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers do keep it very close because

745
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: the Cardinals have also been playing with their food too much.

746
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: Even if when they have been at full strength and

747
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: been clearly the more dominant team on the field, the

748
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: last two weeks, they have let teams crawl back in

749
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 4: it and almost lost in the final moments of the games.

750
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Speaker 3: The reason because I do think, especially with Mac Jones playing,

751
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: because I know there's this idea out there that there's

752
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 3: not a significant drop off, I think the significant drop

753
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: off between these two quarterbacks is when their pressure arrives.

754
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: Brock Purty is people don't give him credit for how

755
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: elusive and how maneuverable he is in the pocket when

756
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: things do breakdown. And Mac Jones had two touchdowns and

757
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: seven picks against zone coverage last season and the Cardinals

758
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: are playing zone about it like north of eighty two percent, Yeah.

759
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: And a zone you can't diagnose, like it's real cloudy,

760
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: regardless of the injuries.

761
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Speaker 3: And so like, I think that's where the separation is,

762
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: because I do think it's very close, and not that

763
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: Mac is going to go out there and just melt

764
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: down and have a bad performance, but I do have

765
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Speaker 3: somebody have to attribute the backup quarterback being the backup

766
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 3: for a reason. Brock got his money for a reason.

767
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: He's not just some dude. I think Brock matter.

768
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And to your point, Patrick, I would actually, I

769
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: would say Mac Jones I will have to see it

770
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: to believe it. But Rock Party would be the guy

771
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: who takes the shots at the perimeter to Ricky pearsall

772
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: downfield right, like he would be the player.

773
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Speaker 2: Well, Max gonna take his shot.

774
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not worried about I don't think he would

775
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: be afraid to do.

776
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, in a perfect world, he's kind of the like,

777
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, upper middle class man's Jake Browning, you

778
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It is like trying to like

779
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: not knock Browning too much, so upper middle class, but

780
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: it's similar vibes.

781
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: Let me wrap my head around that.

782
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: Head around. That was very complimentary. It's upper middle class.

783
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: Someone compared him to me, he said, of the.

784
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Rich man's, you know, the poor man's, you know, Jake Browning,

785
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: the rich man's he's like the upper middle class Jake

786
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Browning in relation to he's a little above Jake Browning.

787
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Jake Browning's middle class in this scenario.

788
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: Someone compared him to me to the character in The

789
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: Good The Good Place who wears the Jacksonville Jaguars jersey

790
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 4: and throws Mulotov cocktails everywhere. So that's where that's where

791
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: I kind of go with it.

792
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: But you know, and is from Jacksonville.

793
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: That's fair.

794
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: And you heard Nick Ralis, the Cardinals coordinator this week,

795
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: just being like, there's I love the love.

796
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: He's just like, there's no one like Kyle. Nobody does

797
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: it like Kyle.

798
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: And I think Kyle's starting to remind some people and

799
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: he's going up against them. And of course ominous respect

800
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: saying it's a little hominous. They actually beat him both

801
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: times last year. They were close games. Perty didn't play

802
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: in one of them. CMC didn't play in either of them,

803
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: so very different. Although the forty nine Ers just lost

804
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: another starting offensive lineman by the way, like just add

805
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: it to the till. The reason I like the forty

806
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: nine Ers though, is because of the defense and the

807
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Robert salasans.

808
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: It's happening.

809
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: He's changing, he's doing some of the new school like

810
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: disguises and stuff. It's not all static. And more importantly,

811
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: he's got a great linebacker duo, Fred Warner, just like

812
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: a year ago. I remember on this show saying at

813
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: the end of September he might be my defensive player

814
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: of the year, and then he got hurt and it

815
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff around him. He might be my

816
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year again through two weeks and

817
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: de Winters has been incredible next to him.

818
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: And I will get on my soapbox again to make

819
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: this case. Since there is such a vast difference between

820
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: Fred Warner and the rest of the linebackers in the NFL,

821
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: he should be an MVP candidate. Like if there is

822
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: that I like it. Difference between you and the other

823
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: people who do the thing that you do. Fred Warner

824
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: should be an MVP.

825
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Speaker 5: Can I like it? Fred Warner? I posit. This is

826
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: a little taky, but I posit.

827
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Speaker 4: He is the reason why young Kubiak could not do

828
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: the things that they wanted to do that we saw

829
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: in week two. In week one, because Fred Warner was

830
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: diagnosing a lot of where they were moving the full

831
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: back around and Fred Warner was moving with him. He

832
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: was like, I am not fooled by you changing gaps

833
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: on me. I am not fooled by your emotions. I'm

834
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: not fooled by your run game. He was all over it.

835
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: It was magical to watch and I think he affected

836
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: the game plan more than most. And the Cardinals like

837
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: to play that. Drew Petsing is right out of that

838
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: system as well. Fred Warner will be a factor in

839
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 4: this game.

840
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: To that point I made earlier about Kyle where I

841
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: thought he was so good getting mismatches and putting Mac

842
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: in good situations last week. This is from our research department.

843
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: I'll do a little quiz. The highest points per game

844
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: average for any coach coaching up a backup quarterback In

845
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: the top four are two Shanahans, Kyle and Mike. So

846
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I think that tells me something. You know, with the

847
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, it's Don Shula number one. I mean, hell,

848
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: he went like undefeated. With the backup quarterback, it's Mike

849
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: and Kyle are three and four. The question is who

850
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: is number two on this list? And I'm going to

851
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: give you a big time hint. It is a former

852
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals.

853
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: Coach Ken Wizon Hunt.

854
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: Wrong, it's Dennis Green. They are who he thought they

855
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: were and we lot them off the hook.

856
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: Okay, Dennis Green.

857
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: What's an excuse to do all that? Resident's Green Eer

858
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: was kind of fun.

859
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Rest and Pete's coach. It's time for the Sunday Drive

860
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: presented by Toyota. Let's go places the Kansas Chiefs a

861
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: six point favorite in a game at the New York

862
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Giants that met life. The over under is forty four

863
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: and a half at Sunday Night Football. So it's Mike

864
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: and Chris on the call with Melissa Stark, the whole crew.

865
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: You get Florio and Chris Sims before they get Everything's

866
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: great as we get a chance to see Kansas City

867
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Speaker 3: try to get their very first win of the year. Wow,

868
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: they get it.

869
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: I'm whoa, Nope, I'm worried about the Chiefs. Who I

870
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: think they win this game?

871
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: Oh?

872
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: Okay, but I I am anxious.

873
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Speaker 2: We did an we buy more than six.

874
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: We did an anxiety panel earlier this week. First time

875
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: I've done that out of a therapist room.

876
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 5: So that was nice. Hey, And it was.

877
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: The more we talked about the Chiefs, the more worried

878
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: I got about the Chiefs. Yes, Russell Wilson is coming

879
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: off his best game in recent memory. I mean it

880
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 4: was other than at the very end. They're absolutely awesome game. Yes,

881
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: this defense, this this Giant's defense, will be a challenge,

882
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: despite the fact they're missing some personnel at line. I

883
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: think that they're going to move Abdul Carter inside a

884
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: little bit more so they can keep the three top linebackers,

885
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: whether outside or inside, all of them obviously Brian Burns

886
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: and cave On Thibodeau. They're going to be maybe the

887
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: stand up rushers full time, and then you drop Abdu

888
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: Carter maybe into inside linebacker because Mike McFadden is injured.

889
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: That way you keep him on the field the whole

890
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: time and try to get as much pressure as you

891
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 4: possibly can on Patrick Mahomes and an offensive line that

892
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: I think is still question marks and coming together a

893
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: little bit.

894
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was shocked how low the Chiefs are ranked

895
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: in terms of like pass block when rate and run

896
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: block when They're in the bottom five of the league

897
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: in both.

898
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: It's been bad.

899
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the running game and seeing Isaiah Pacheco

900
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: with forty seven yards this year, and you know Mahomes

901
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: is leading the team with a one hundred and twenty three.

902
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I think against this front. Keve On

903
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: Thibodeau is playing really well this year. His runs because

904
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: he has to stops are are excellent. Carter's getting a

905
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: little lost in the in the mix being inside I think,

906
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: but ultimately like there's a lot of talent and that

907
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: could be a little bit of a mismatch for the

908
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Giants up front. Now, if Mahomes is any time at all,

909
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: then he gets to expose what's just a mess in

910
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: the Giants back end in terms of their linebackers. This

911
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: should be a Travis Kelce type of game.

912
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying.

913
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 4: Like they haven't quite committed to Abdul Carter at ILB yet,

914
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: but they are he doesn't have a lot of snap counts,

915
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: Like he's not on the field as much as he

916
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 4: needs to be a player who can make splash plays

917
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: the way that he can and certainly be a factor.

918
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean he can cover. You, I've seen him do it.

919
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: You know he can cover. So I would imagine if

920
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: they're trying to get their best defense on the field,

921
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: you find a way to get that guy on the field.

922
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: Shane Bowen like linebackers, background, Like you find a way

923
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: to get your best player.

924
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: Show me something to saye Bowen. By the way, just you.

925
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: Talking about like considering the talent that's available, Like.

926
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: The way that the end of that game ended, the

927
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: way they were structured last year, just seeing Deontay Banks

928
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: out there, Bill's struggling, the safety struggling. Maybe it's a

929
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: personnel thing, but they're quite a vanilla defense. And the

930
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: way that they just let the Cowboys set up that

931
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey field goal bothered me. Yeah, just like do something.

932
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of a damned if you do type situation

933
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: because sometimes you know, with the installs, with new players

934
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: coming in, maybe these things take time and to have

935
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: to play at Dak Prescott, you know where we talked

936
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: about just the level that Dak is playing at, just

937
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: functioning and operating the offense. Maybe a little bit tougher

938
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: to do that in week two in thet We'll see

939
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: how the Giants do the next time around. I'm interested

940
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: to see where Chris Jones is utilized, yes, because like

941
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: we're used to, like the Chiefs needed it's the moment

942
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: and then Jones is at edge, but that hasn't been going.

943
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: He's only been aligned on the edge on nine of

944
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: his fifty seven pass rushes this season. I think a

945
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: lot of that may have to do with the Chiefs

946
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: trailing for a lot of time and they haven't been

947
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: able to be in these situations where it's very past ivy.

948
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: But the Chargers through against the Chiefs almost more than

949
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: any other game in the Greg Roman era. And then

950
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: we come out where an Eagles team didn't really need

951
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: to throw the ball a lot. They've managed to lose

952
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: both ways this season to the extent that where we've

953
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: seen all of these departures time over time with the

954
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: Spags defense, and I think it's finally starting to catch

955
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: up in terms of the talent that's available to them.

956
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: They'll well coach enough, though, not to let everyone just

957
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: run by them on the same exact play call like that,

958
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: like the Wandelle play and the Malik Neighbors play back

959
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: to back, back to back drives with the exact same

960
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: play different like personnel usage.

961
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: But that's not going to happen.

962
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: I wonder if we see Russell Wilson run a little

963
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: bit more.

964
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: I know he's not, he doesn't prefer to do that,

965
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: but justin Herbert had so much success against undesigned or

966
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: non designed scrambles and rushes against this Chiefs defense, and

967
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: I just I wonder if that's part of the game

968
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: plan that they.

969
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 5: Deploy Tiva close.

970
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 4: I can't fathom a world where Kansas City starts zero

971
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: to three. I can very much fathom a world where

972
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: the New York Giants lose this football game. But I

973
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: will say all of that being in a truth, I'm

974
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: worried about the Chiefs for the long haul.

975
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Same and this is a Spags revenge game. I don't

976
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: know why he needs to get revenge for the organization

977
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: that you know, really helped make his name initially, but

978
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: he's returning home beloved in New Jersey. Before we go,

979
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna listen to a question asked at a press

980
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: conference of Patrick Mahomes And this was suggested by our

981
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: great producer, Eric Roberts. And sometimes when they suggest something,

982
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: you should just do it because then it'll give them

983
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: like a little carrot, they'll like you more. But then

984
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: you ruin it by talking about it ahead of time.

985
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: So that's really my lesson to the audience. Don't be

986
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: like me. If you're gonna do the thing anyways, just

987
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: do it and get the credit for it. This happens

988
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: to me at home all the time. Let's listen to Patrick.

989
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 8: He wants to have the chance to make the place happen,

990
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 8: and he's made the place happen for years, and so

991
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 8: I don't I don't feel like we asked for too

992
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 8: much from him. I mean, we asked for him to

993
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 8: be out there and be himself and just be who

994
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 8: he is. And I think that that in itself is

995
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 8: enough for us.

996
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: Okay, cool on.

997
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 9: Sorry, you know, Greg, now you're telling me how to

998
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 9: do my job over here. Usually you know this is

999
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 9: going to be a Travis Kelsey game. Yes, the Simons

1000
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 9: perfect time to throw that video and quote that I so,

1001
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 9: you know, graciously gave you before it, but you know, yeah.

1002
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 2: I could have set that up better.

1003
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: It was a question about whether Kelsey is doing too

1004
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: much note whether.

1005
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 9: He's my job, you're doing your just I like, I

1006
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 9: like a little note taking.

1007
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Give me some honest feedback. I want it, I need it.

1008
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Clearly, the setup there about Greg critiquing his choice to

1009
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: criticize the thing could be construed as more criticism of

1010
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: the thing before we did the thing.

1011
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is.

1012
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Which will be my coachable point if we're you know,

1013
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: saying do your job and summoning Bill Belichick for some reason.

1014
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: So I don't like I don't like that question. I

1015
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: actually think Kelsey has moved well this year. He dropped

1016
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: the pass, but I don't think he's looked as.

1017
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: The first player ever to drop a pass by right

1018
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: by the way.

1019
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite as sluggish as he looked

1020
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: to start the last two seasons.

1021
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, this could be a Travis Kelsey.

1022
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,200
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Speaker 4: And the day we're recording this, Happy birthday, thirtieth birthday

1033
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: to Patrick Mahomes.

1034
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: Yes, Happy birthday Patrick. We had to celebrate Brady's birthday

1035
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: every single year, and also after he retired, we've had

1036
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: to announce everything he's invested in. I don't know why

1037
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: people do that, but yeah, happy birthday, Patrick.

1038
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Deep sinus what you're told to and there's lots of

1039
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: money behind it. But this is one that makes me

1040
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: feel old. Patrick Mahomes turning thirty. I'm kind of annoyed

1041
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: that every time there's like a junior like Antoine Winfield

1042
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: junior when he first came out, But any junior that

1043
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: had a professional, you know, athlete father is in college

1044
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: or comes to the pros, everyone just says I feel old.

1045
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I would just like just get used to it at

1046
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: this point. But Patrick Mahomes being thirty, I know, because

1047
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't think of him starting his career that long ago.

1048
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: It's not old, but it's a do you want to know?

1049
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: It's a it's a halfway mark for a normal career. Now,

1050
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes seems like he might be someone that might

1051
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: not have a normal career, but it's it's a point

1052
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: where careers, you know, you're you're like halfway through at

1053
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: the very least.

1054
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 4: You know who turns thirty next season, which blew my

1055
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 4: mind and I could not it's another quarter.

1056
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue, that was nice of you, Tyler Durton.

1057
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow turns thirty next season, which also blew my mind.

1058
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't. I was like, I can't process that.

1059
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: I can't process that, which also means Sam Darnold still

1060
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: won't be thirty next season.

1061
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: Wait, really that really applies. Yes, the passage of time

1062
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: comes for us all. It's been a theme on this show.

1063
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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily, a little bit of a.

1070
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: Crossroads in the early season of the Raiders and the Commanders.

1071
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's early.

1072
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you lose Jayden Daniels, you lose decisively

1073
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: on a Thursday night, you lose a couple of veterans

1074
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: and dys and Austin Eckler. And we don't know for

1075
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: sure that Jayden Daniels is out for this game, but

1076
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: he's not going to practice until.

1077
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: Friday at the earth earliest.

1078
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: And just reading between the lines of like the tone

1079
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: of the Insiders, it does feel like it's a Marcus

1080
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Mariot that type of game.

1081
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, dan Quinn says he needs to see Jayden Daniels

1082
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: on the field if he's going to play this week.

1083
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: In that game where the Commanders are at home taking

1084
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: on the Las Vegas Raiders, where the Washington at the

1085
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: moment that we're reading this favored by three and a

1086
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: half points, the over unders forty seven and a half.

1087
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: Chris Myers, Mark Slith, and Jen Hale on the call

1088
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: as well. We've got both teams dealing with injuries because Jordan,

1089
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: it was difficult to watch the Raiders offense with rock

1090
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: Bauers wearing a big brace on his knee. There was

1091
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: a notable difference in the way that they executed and

1092
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: how they moved up and down the field. How do

1093
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: you see this one going?

1094
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was at the game and it was an

1095
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 4: entire week of Pete Carroll talking, pulling at Kyle Shanahan

1096
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: and talking about how great Rock Bauers was moving around.

1097
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: But then after a postgame and he clearly wasn't He

1098
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: all but disappeared after one target in the first half,

1099
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: and then he kind of came alive just a little

1100
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: in the second half, a couple of crucial third downs,

1101
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 4: but it looked painful for him.

1102
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 5: And yes, that brace, it was one of those.

1103
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: With like the solid sides to it that the wheels

1104
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: that are on the side, which is not a great sign.

1105
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: Another really ominous sign was Pete Carroll postgame, when asked

1106
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: about brock Bauers, talking about, well, he survived the first half,

1107
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 4: so we went to him a little bit more in

1108
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: the second. Yeah, that's not great. As positive as he

1109
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: sounds when he says it.

1110
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 5: If you read the words, it's not really great.

1111
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: And not having brock Bauers affected that entire game plan

1112
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 4: because it's pretty clear that Chip Kelly doesn't quite trust

1113
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: Ashton Jantiet and there were a couple of mistakes in protection,

1114
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: and there are a couple of mistakes on throws behind

1115
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage where he could not shake a

1116
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: single matchup. There are a couple of mistakes in the handoffs,

1117
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: so it's pretty clear that they're not trusting that math

1118
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: changing player. So your other math changing player is brock Bowers,

1119
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: who creates short, intermediate, and middle to deep layers or

1120
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 4: runs after the catch plays in that offense that they

1121
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: were absolutely missing. They were out of rhythm and off

1122
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: time and behind the down every single drive, and even

1123
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: when they were when Gino Smith was trying to make

1124
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: plays happen that you know, forcing throws into really tight windows,

1125
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: which usually he can make, but there was nothing that

1126
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 4: he was taking underneath.

1127
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: Brock Bauers is the trustworthy.

1128
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: Guy who makes those things happen, who creates more layers

1129
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: in your offense. The Raiders badly, badly need that, and

1130
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: they need to design it and they need.

1131
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: To call it much easier matchup this week, I believe

1132
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: against the Commanders. Yeah, Jesse Minter, he puts that cap

1133
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: on an offense, you know, he stops him from going deep.

1134
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: And I love dan Quinn as a head coach, but

1135
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: they're going to be aggressive. They're going to play man coverage.

1136
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: There are concepts to beat their man coverage. Rewatching that

1137
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Packers game, I was just thinking like their cornerbacks had

1138
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: no chance on some of those plays. That criticizing Marshawn

1139
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: Lattimore and he didn't have a good game, but there

1140
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: are about three of those plays that they lost before

1141
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: the snap happened. And there are certain rules that dan

1142
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: Quinn's defenses play with and it'll be interesting, you know,

1143
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: to see if Chip Kelly is the guy to be

1144
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that.

1145
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm willing to disregard the game against a really

1146
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: good Green Bay team where multiple like Dietrich Wise gets

1147
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 3: carted off the field with emotional moment like Jaden's playing hurt.

1148
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm willing to look past a lot of that. I'm

1149
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: not ready to place the blame over on the other

1150
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: side on Ashton Jenty, like he's averaging point one yards

1151
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: before contact in the backfield where he's getting point one

1152
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: yards immediate contact. He's had plenty of positive rush plays

1153
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: despite the way things have looked when he got the ball.

1154
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: If you can't trust him in certain situations, you have

1155
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 3: to be able to design a round. And I bought

1156
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: into the excitement around Chip Kelly. But when you've got

1157
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: such a dynamic player, we can see it when the

1158
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: ball's in his hands, especially when it wasn't there on

1159
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: the outside to frustrating watch as a geno supporter to

1160
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: see the Raiders offense operate the way it did on mine.

1161
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: But he played poorly paying I don't know.

1162
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he admitted it too, And it was a

1163
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: lot of what they were trying to do and him

1164
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 4: pressing to try to make a play happen.

1165
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 5: Because this drove me crazy.

1166
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: Patrick, to your exact point, I think they should open

1167
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 4: Ashton giant up. I think they should say, hey, stuff

1168
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: is going to happen. You're a rookie running back. Stuff

1169
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 4: is going to happen. Go play ball. But it was

1170
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: it felt very constricted and tight and like the things

1171
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: that and that's where I have such an issue with it,

1172
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: and setting up the offense in general in really adverse situations.

1173
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: The thing that they did that I liked was they

1174
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: played more pistol this game, so you're giving him better vision.

1175
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 4: You're giving Geno vision on the defense, and you're also

1176
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 4: giving the running back better vision on the defense so

1177
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: he can set.

1178
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: Up his holes.

1179
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: It's the problem is they aren't there right, They're not

1180
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: there for him to actually take advantage of right, and

1181
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: then they're you know, they cannot stretch the defense out

1182
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 4: at all because brock Bauers is not a mathematic mismatch.

1183
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 4: The other issue that I had though, was don't call

1184
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: shot plays on second and one out of the pistol

1185
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: and then set and then have either a neutral or

1186
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 4: a negative play and make your quarterback press the ball,

1187
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: run the dang ball. And Pete Carroll said postgame it

1188
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: was really interesting if you guys go back and listen

1189
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: to his entire postgame presscartcause, like I said, all of

1190
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: it sounded very positive and optimistic and upbeat, but some

1191
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: of it if you go back and you read some

1192
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 4: of the things that he said, it was like, yeah,

1193
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: he also wants to run the ball more. I've got

1194
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: to talk to Chip about that. Like, yes, he wants

1195
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: to put more on Ashton Janty's plate. And I think

1196
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: that again, a rookie running back, you're gonna have a

1197
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: handoff miscommunication that also might have been a little bit

1198
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: of the quarterback as well. You're gonna have those types

1199
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: of things happen. But you gotta let this guy go

1200
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: and you got a block for him, and you got

1201
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: to just turn him loose and scheme open things for

1202
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: him to do where he can be successful and get

1203
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 4: on time and get advantageous and efficient downs and then

1204
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: your offense gets back on track. And oh, by the way,

1205
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: then you can play fast like you want to if

1206
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: you're Chip Kelly.

1207
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: Do they want to play fast though? Because they're not.

1208
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: They are They're not, They're not. He's on the field

1209
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: a ton, to be fair. They're just not running the

1210
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: ball like he's on the field. Eleven ifty snaps.

1211
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: A game, eleven carries, that's it, and he's on the

1212
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: field the whole time. And when I say they want

1213
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 4: to play fast, it's very clear by the way they're

1214
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: pressing the ball that somebody is telling them they need

1215
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: to push the ball.

1216
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 5: And that end the way it is?

1217
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: Is it?

1218
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, No, that's one option. It's the ghost about Davis,

1219
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: just like how the Raiders play ball. It's just in

1220
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: the in the building, in the ether. I mean, Genas

1221
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: Smith would totally make sense as the nineteen eighties, like

1222
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: LA Raiders quarterback, really, any any Raiders quarterback.

1223
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: He just fits.

1224
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I know he plays the way that their quarterbacks always play.

1225
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: I know he had a bad game, but man, for

1226
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: a minute there, I thought he was going to go

1227
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: just shut the lights off of that building because it

1228
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 4: was so cool watching him come out of the tunnel

1229
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: with with Max Crosby and warm up on the logo

1230
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: in the silver and black, and like he was so

1231
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: ready to go. And then it was an Omen interception

1232
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: the first play of the game.

1233
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: It was a bad Omen Greg, you know.

1234
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: On the other side of it, I trust Marcus Mariota

1235
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: if he has to go in h Is this a

1236
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: revenge game?

1237
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: A little bit interesting? Did the Raiders help Marcus Mariota

1238
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: rehab his career a little bit? I'm not sure, but

1239
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: yes we could. We could call this a revenge game.

1240
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1241
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: I trust the commanders. This is a tough game to pick,

1242
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: but I trust the Commanders a little more overall, it's

1243
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: a tough one.

1244
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: I like would take.

1245
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: I would take the points, but I would take the

1246
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: Commanders most likely.

1247
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: Something just came to me thinking about Marcus Maroota, particularly

1248
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 3: revenge against the Raiders. Yeah, did a Mark Cooper say

1249
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: he was going to sign with the Raiders and then

1250
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: quickly retire just to give it back to the Raiders

1251
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: after all the things they said about him after the trade? Hmmm?

1252
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: That would that would be amazing. Marcus Mariota, by the way,

1253
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: did not start a game with the Raiders. He came

1254
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: in as a backup a couple of times.

1255
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: I remember, never got a shot, and I believe got

1256
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 4: benj got a shot.

1257
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I feel like John Gruden

1258
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: got really excited when he came in during a Monday

1259
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: night football game as an announcer, pumped up Mario.

1260
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: I might really be mixing up there.

1261
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 4: Never never got never got a fair shot, guys, now redemption.

1262
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: I like the Raiders defense. Actually, if people go watch

1263
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, no touchdowns in the second

1264
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: half against two, you know, pretty solid attacks, and I

1265
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: think that this group they're very there's a talent deficit there.

1266
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: We all know this but they're out playing it right now,

1267
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: and that's Patrick Graham who's out coaching the lack of

1268
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: talent on the roster.

1269
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: Looking forward to see that. Always fun to talk about

1270
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: our old friend John Gruden out there. Send an email still,

1271
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: hopefully the content is a little bit better now. The

1272
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons our next game, favored by five and a

1273
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: half across the division against the Carolina Panthers. The over

1274
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: under is forty three the house. Speaking enough John Grue,

1275
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: Tim Brando is on the call, Matt Millan and Sarah

1276
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: Coustak as well Greg As we get to see if

1277
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: this Carolina Panthers team, which didn't have an opponent run

1278
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: for billion yards against them last week, could go up

1279
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: against this Atlanta Falcons team that did run all over

1280
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings a week ago.

1281
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing the Falcons as that big of a favorite

1282
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: going into a week three game and imagining a world,

1283
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: very realistic world where the Falcons defense is number one

1284
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: in DVOA and EPA per play after three weeks this season.

1285
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: They are number one in EPA right now, and the

1286
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: fact that they have the Panthers who are missing two

1287
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: starting offensive linemen for the first time this season putting

1288
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: him on injured Deserve. What a what a wild world

1289
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: to live in. This this Raheem Moster, Jeff Ulbrick, Raheem

1290
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: Morris marriage. Yeah sorry, I had Raheem Moster on the brain.

1291
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 5: Guys.

1292
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 4: We're not doing a Jeff Aissance. It's the era of Jeff.

1293
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay, the era of Jeff.

1294
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 4: So this is Jeff Olbrick who's scheming up pressure, which

1295
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: Raheem Morris admitted and knew they needed more of. They're

1296
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: blitzing a little bit more than Raheem Morris ever wanted

1297
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: to do. Guess who is suddenly third in pressure rate

1298
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: and tied for third in sacks in the NFL after

1299
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: we couldn't find a pass rush if our lives dependent

1300
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: on it in Atlanta over the last several season.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

1302
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: The Atlanta Falcons, Jeff Ulbrich and Raheem Morris are a

1303
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: great team. It's part of the reason why a lot

1304
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: of teams wanted to hire Jeff Ulbrich this offseason.

1305
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: I told you, guys, this Falcons.

1306
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 4: Team would be frisky, and that is also why they

1307
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 4: are My survivor picked this.

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01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: Ya ooh good joy good those drums.

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01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: She turns her back on her beloved Carolina Panthers. Hard

1310
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: to blame the way it's looked in the offensive line,

1311
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: which they hadn't been getting as much going in the

1312
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: running game so far this season anyways, and so to

1313
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: lose Robert Hunt for the season is absolutely brutal. I

1314
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: think Michael Pennox is quietly having his second year leap,

1315
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: but you don't really know it because they had to

1316
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: play the Bucks and everything that Todd Bowles was sending

1317
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: out him in Week one, and then last week obviously

1318
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: Brian Flores and the Vikings. But I'm really impressed with

1319
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: how slow the game seems for him, how he makes

1320
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot of smart checks at the line of scrimmage.

1321
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: How just these first couple of games, he's just dinging

1322
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: and dungan, which is the opposite of the Michael Pennock Show.

1323
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: But I think it's because it's winning football in these

1324
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: Pacific matchups where they knew their offensive line couldn't hold up,

1325
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: and he he just seems like a very mature quarterback

1326
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: this early in his career.

1327
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it points me back to just what a

1328
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: great draft pick it was for a maligned GM like

1329
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: Terry Verry Tho you're in a quarterback one hundred million

1330
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: dollars guaranteed on a move that was directed by his

1331
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: owner to take Michael Pennock Junior in the first round

1332
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: of the NFL.

1333
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: You know who was on an island defending that pick

1334
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: the day it happened. From all the haters right here?

1335
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: Oh so now, okay, Eric favorite host, All right, right.

1336
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: You know, I'm reminded of another take earlier this summer

1337
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: GM rankings and whatnot. And somebody in this room right now,

1338
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 4: Brave Soul in fact, complimented and lotted the fact that

1339
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: Terry Fonto's draft picks tend to work out pretty good

1340
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 4: and have pretty.

1341
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 2: Good Kyle Pitsasance is definitely happy.

1342
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: And I will also say that their pass rushers, which

1343
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: they traded for, I personally would not have given up

1344
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: a first round pick, but they're both popping off the screen.

1345
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: This is a factor early on. Like I'm not ready

1346
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: to fully say for the entire season, the Atlanta Falcons

1347
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: defense is back, but they look really nang good so far,

1348
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: and going against this version of the Carolina Panthers, it

1349
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: bodes well for them.

1350
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: Only eight players in the last thirty seasons have had

1351
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 3: ten total tackles, an interception in half a sack through

1352
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: two games. One of them Billy Bowman Jr. Another young

1353
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcon, Davi Er Watts, has looked great draft about

1354
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: Terry font.

1355
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: It's a little TV to me with Pearson Walker in

1356
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: terms of how much they'll have an impact this season.

1357
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: But Divine Diablo, who they picked up from the Raiders, like,

1358
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: has looked awesome. There's a lot of good players there.

1359
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, like Bryce right now

1360
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: has the second lowest completion percentage on targets over ten yards,

1361
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: and it just feels like it's it's Hope balls to

1362
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: Tetuah McMillan, who comes down with him a lot of

1363
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: the times, and that's about it. Like the drop off,

1364
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: I think it's the worst group of weapons to throw

1365
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: to in the NFL.

1366
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: And that's a lot considering they were in such a

1367
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: good position they felt before the season that they're they're

1368
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: making trades and sending you know, we saw the late

1369
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: game performance from Hunter Renfro. The plan was never like

1370
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro.

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 5: Was like was supposed to be there at the.

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Speaker 3: Start of the season, and I think that also speaks

1373
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: to how difficult things have been for Xavier lyget Yeah,

1374
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 3: at the start of the season, he's really struggling. Like

1375
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: the route depth has been weird, cut up where it's

1376
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 3: like going through like the way teeds. Excuse me, his

1377
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 3: mom astill call him tetroh call him tetro Max.

1378
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 2: Fine.

1379
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Team Mac is acceptable as well. The comparison between

1380
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: the way that they run their outs and like Ligets

1381
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: was not lazy, but he's drifting back and the defenders

1382
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: able to get there wasn't crisp and once he gets

1383
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands, he seems indecisive. Maybe some

1384
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: better play will will lift up everything for the Panthers.

1385
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's questions about Ajhrell this week.

1386
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: He is week to week not expected to play, which

1387
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: is a massive loss for the Falcons.

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01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: Good catch, Thanks Greg, You're doing great as hosts. I

1389
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 4: think Eric would agree.

1390
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: No, But I mean I would have done better if

1391
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: I had brought up the week to week Ajterrell injury

1392
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: before that.

1393
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: But we got it.

1394
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: You saved me.

1395
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: I do. I just I really like this Falcons team.

1396
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 4: I came in the year obnoxiously high on this Atlanta

1397
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: Falcons team, and I just like everything they're putting together.

1398
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 4: Let's not forget too. We haven't seen actual improvement from

1399
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers defense. Jace Horn has made a couple

1400
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 4: big plays, which is awesome. You haven't really seen a

1401
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 4: ton from them yet. And last season, Jean Robinson said

1402
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: his career high in rush yards and Drake London said

1403
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: his career high in receiving yards in that Week eighteen game. Yeah,

1404
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: pretty crazy numbers.

1405
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 5: From them both.

1406
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: But it's in that vision anything can happen.

1407
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: It's true. Bryce was incredible in that game too.

1408
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good it was.

1409
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: A good game, good memory for always.

1410
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 5: It's always fun when these two teams play.

1411
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: We've had a couple of long distance revenge games where

1412
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: things can kind of mellow and go around. Now we

1413
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: have Clint Kubiak and the Seattle Seahawks at home against

1414
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints. The Seahawks favored by seven and

1415
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: a half, the over under forty one and a half points.

1416
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 3: And Andrew Catalog are good friend, Charles Davis, Jase mccordy,

1417
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: and aj Ross on the call. It's been a little

1418
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: up and down. Do you think it's be all up

1419
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: with the big favorite Seahawks at home?

1420
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: Jordan Seattle looked a little messy at the beginning of

1421
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: last week's game against Pittsburgh.

1422
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold turned it over.

1423
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: That was actually more courtesy of a really great play

1424
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 4: by Jalen Ramsey undercutting route on a ball intended for

1425
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. If Sam Donald would have led Cooper Cup,

1426
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: that's a touchdown, easy money because Cooper had Jalen Ramsey

1427
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: beat on the play. So I think this is as

1428
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 4: time passed and this team, the Seattle offense, started to

1429
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: run the ball, get the full back Robbie Oots. I've

1430
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: apologized to I think probably a family member of his

1431
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 4: reached out to me last week that I mispronounced it

1432
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 4: and please forgive me.

1433
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 5: But he he.

1434
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: Tried tried something there.

1435
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 5: I liked it. I thought it was good. Keep cooking Greg.

1436
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: He getting him involved. His snap count has increased week

1437
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 4: over week. Getting him more involved is a true game

1438
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 4: changer for this offense because they can play bully ball,

1439
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 4: run the ball behind your lead blocker with the full

1440
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 4: back behind Gray's abel. I don't I still don't trust

1441
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: these tackles to pass pro super well. They've had some

1442
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: issues pass with pass pro against with Sam Donald, but

1443
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 4: they're running the ball well.

1444
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 5: They are physical.

1445
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: They are like bullyball offense once they get kind of

1446
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 4: opened up in that phase, and I expect that to

1447
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 4: be the same against this defense.

1448
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: And they need to pass protect well because that's their

1449
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle in Charles Cross. And they just gave

1450
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: Abe Lucas a lot of money. I always understand why

1451
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: the player does take maybe like ninety percent of the

1452
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: dollar of what he could get if he has a

1453
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: healthy season before the season coming off an injury. I

1454
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: always think there's a risk coming off of a major

1455
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: injury that Abe Lucas had to give that money. And

1456
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: he struggled a little bit. But these are two teams

1457
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: that want to run the ball. They have run the

1458
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. It's a mismatch when the Saints have

1459
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: the ball on offense in this game. Because Spencer Ratler

1460
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: has been surviving despite facing the second most amount of

1461
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: quick pressures in the NFL. Fuaga, the Saints right tackle

1462
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: just hasn't looked right and he admitted to a reporter

1463
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: that he's playing through like a some sort of patella

1464
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: tendon like diagnosis. And that's really scary because you're you're

1465
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: worried maybe a bigger injury could happen. He gave up

1466
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: that big sack that ended last week's game. Their offense

1467
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: has been better than expected, for sure. It's why I

1468
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: thought about making this my Survivor pick too, but I

1469
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: think it's too much. I want to give the Saints

1470
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: just enough respect that you just never know, and I

1471
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't feel quite comfortable. The defense, unfortunately for the Saints,

1472
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: has been a little worse than expected.

1473
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: I would say the learning and adjustment process. You could

1474
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 3: see it going on with coach Moore and this Saints team,

1475
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: who ran play action at the lowest rate in the

1476
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: NFL in Week one. They came back week two and

1477
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: thirty three percent of the time we used play action

1478
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: and Rattler had seven completions for seventy three yards and

1479
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 3: two touchdowns using play action, which is something considering the

1480
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: way that the run game has gone. Like Alvin Kamara

1481
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: when given the ball has seen more light boxes than anybody.

1482
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: He's still getting contact behind the line of scrim so

1483
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: bad considering and you know the context if Laga's playing

1484
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: through some things as well, like they're having some trouble

1485
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 3: up there, and so it does have to be all

1486
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 3: on Spencer Ratler like as limited and shorthanded as things

1487
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: could be, and he's delivered and Juwan Johnson has made plays.

1488
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: He did have some drops in both games, but you know,

1489
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: get the snake emoji's going. The Rattler supporters, we are

1490
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: many and we were growing.

1491
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: If Tyler Shuck had two weeks like that, everyone, I

1492
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: think the conversation would be, Wow, is Tyler Shuck gonna

1493
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: play well enough that the Saints considered not using a

1494
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: quarterback assuming they have like a top five pick. I

1495
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: think that's how well Spencer Ratler has played. I think

1496
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: people just view him differently because of where he went

1497
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: in the draft and because he's a second year player.

1498
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 4: I just think when you combine the way that the

1499
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 4: Seahawks defense is playing, how aggressive they are, how they

1500
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 4: already look like one of the best defenses in the

1501
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: NFL this early in the season. Like I would put

1502
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 4: them and the Chargers and the Eagles, depending on who's

1503
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: at corner at corner number two, maybe the Broncos, although

1504
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: they've been a little shaky. I would put those guys

1505
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: all in the top tier right now of defenses. The

1506
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 4: Rams as well, in Seattle's right up there at the

1507
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 4: very top and they're aggressive, and especially if your offensive

1508
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 4: line is banged up, as you mentioned, Patrick, like this

1509
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 4: could this could go get ugly quickly, and especially at home.

1510
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I really expect Seattle to open up a

1511
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: can here.

1512
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this stat.

1513
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: But Mike McDonald, I think, has only lost one game

1514
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: on the road and he's barely won any games at

1515
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: home since he took over. I was shocked by that.

1516
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: Last week they brought it up on the broadcast. It's

1517
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: more impressive. The home thing is fluky everything. I think

1518
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,879
Speaker 1: home road splits over a short enough timeline.

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: It's just loud for a young quarterback, That's what I'm saying.

1520
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: It's pretty fluky.

1521
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: I just feel like more should be made out of

1522
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: that that he is like nine to one on the road.

1523
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: Somehow as a head coach, it's it's kind of wild.

1524
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 3: Just got to look at the schedule makers. But to

1525
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 3: Jordan's point about the defense, especially the pass rush, nine

1526
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 3: of dropbacks, they're getting pressured. They're getting pressure. It's it's

1527
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: the highest mark in the NFL. Uh and they have

1528
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: blitzed at the second lowest rates. Yeah, Like it's it's

1529
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: getting and everybody's and somebody like DeMarcus Lawrence, like his

1530
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 3: his sack and pressure numbers aren't up there, but everybody's

1531
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 3: doing their job. And again to summon Bill's memory, nobody's

1532
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: chasing sacks, but they're still they're still getting pressure.

1533
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Bill's still with us. He's coaching a team

1534
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: with a two game winning streak. Here, just blew out

1535
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: the Richmond Spiders.

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Speaker 3: Okay to him, there's a Bill Belichick up there. Bill

1537
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: A Belichick still with us. Yeah.

1538
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: The Seahawks three and seven at home under Mike McDonald.

1539
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: They're so good on defense that like Nuosu is not

1540
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: even playing much. I know he's coming off an injury,

1541
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: but they just have so many guys. Boy, Mafe is

1542
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 1: on my list of the top twenty five free agents

1543
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty six.

1544
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: He was already pretty high up there, and I mean

1545
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: he might be.

1546
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: He might get to the top just about because there's

1547
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: not any good free agents.

1548
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: Ultimately they get there.

1549
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: If they don't, if they don't sign him long term,

1550
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: he will be like in the top five, I would guess.

1551
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: To actually get to the market, that's a long way away.

1552
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the off season and all, but

1553
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: it feels good so much.

1554
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: I think three.

1555
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's fun to look ahead to

1556
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: free agency. Make it a year round event, the NFL Draft,

1557
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: that's the vision.

1558
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory. Greg wants boy in the New England Patriots.

1559
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 5: I understand layers that would be.

1560
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: That would be a lot of fun. You know what,

1561
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: else will be fun listening to our preview of the

1562
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: a f C. So if you if you've noticed last

1563
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: week we divided up the preview shows into a f

1564
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: C and NFC. We're giving every team just a little

1565
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: more tender, loving care and attention each and every week.

1566
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: So that is it for the NFC. We got six

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: games in the a f C. We'll see you there.