WEBVTT - Rhyheim Shabazz 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.800 Hey, viewers. 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.400 Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about queer sex. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.639 Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. If 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.840 hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more offends 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.360 your sensibilities, you might want to skip this Viewer discretion 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.920 is advised. It's definitely not for kids. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.279 Put your pussy, put your put your pussy up. Put 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.040 your pussy, put put your pussy up. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.520 Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:31.560 christottason Rosso. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.640 Each week we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising, 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:35.600 and relationships. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.680 We talked to queer folks of all kinds. We'll ask 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.640 some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, and provide 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:42.680 practical advice that. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.000 You can use at home. Let Joy put Joe, pussy 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.640 put job, put put job. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.320 Put jo. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.920 Hi Chris, Hi, We're back at the table. Oh, we 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.840 are back at the table. I'm really excited. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:56.480 Me too. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.800 We have a literal legend on our show today, Beary 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.920 for this absolute icon. Yeah. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.560 I have to ask you, Chris, do you remember the 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.520 first time you discovered porn star him Shabaz. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.560 You know, I was thinking about this when we were 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.280 preparing for this interview, and I'm sure you're thinking for 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.840 quite some time. It's been a long time that I've 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:15.840 been following the work. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.320 No, absolutely, absolutely, I was like out of the porn 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.520 industry at that point. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.479 I was a retiree after my many days as a cameraman. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.400 And I think it was really exciting because Raheem was 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.959 one of the first porn stars I saw really make 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.120 a name for himself kind of on his own terms, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.880 doing his own stuff. And I think, you know, post 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.200 the start of OnlyFans, you know, I want to say 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.720 maybe twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I think we really saw 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.559 a lot of performers modeling how to do things outside 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.800 the studio system. It's a double edged short, right, you're 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.480 doing stuff on your own, so you're responsible for more, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.320 but you're also pressured less into doing things you don't 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.640 want to do by the studio, like the way I 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.560 love seeing porn stars be verse on their own channel. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.200 Maybe, and I know that the studios like you're only 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.280 a top. You'll only ever be a top, You'll never 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.320 be more than that. Yeah, I'm just like let people 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:09.200 get fucked. Every writes me crazy. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.079 But no, I don't know if it was through word 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.720 of mouth or word of whole, but I heard about 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.200 Rahim and he has truly been a staple in the 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:20.320 industry for sure. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:25.400 And then like every girl going to Brazil, it's always like, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:26.359 am I gonna run in? 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.120 Am I gonna? Am I gonna see them? 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.359 He took come to Brazil to an entirely new level. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.639 Truly say I'm coming on Brazil. How about that, I'm 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.000 coming on and in Brazil? 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:36.600 Love that. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.200 I feel like if he threw a concert, he could 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.240 get Lady Gaga numbers. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:45.880 You don't know one hundred percent because I'm buying my ticket. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.480 Yeah, I don't know, Like I'm buying my christ did 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.919 buy their ticket. It's a one way ticket, so she's 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.280 never coming back to the podcast. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:53.720 Yeah. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.120 Raheem Shabaz has been dominating the adult film world since 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.800 twenty nineteen with raw, unapologetic content. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.160 As an award winning star and director. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.440 He has earned awards like Performer of the Year at 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.440 the Gave Ends in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.400 He's also currently one of the judges on out TV's 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.440 mail stripper competition series Darkroom Duel hosted by Willem, but. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.480 His biggest accomplishment was to start his own studio, Voyeur, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:20.280 a few years ago. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:22.120 We have all watched. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.920 In today's episode, we're gonna be talking to the performer 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.880 turned director turned mogul about how he got here, where 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.840 he's going, and what it's like to run an adult 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.560 studio in the age of OnlyFans. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.680 We'll also pick up some tips and tricks for shooting 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.400 your own content. And here's some spicy cruising confessions. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.280 So please welcome to Snivie's Cruising Confessions. Clap those cheeks 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:41.200 for Raheem. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:45.560 Show boys. Welcome Raheem. Thank you for joining us today. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.800 Thank you much for the invitation, Thanks for flying in. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:56.480 We haven't even started. Just wait, so Raheem. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.120 For the rare listener or viewer who might not be 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.200 familiar with your porn. God God bless you innocent souls, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.040 You're about to learn a lot. Can you describe what 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.640 Voyeur does and the type of content and scenes that 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.320 you specialize in Voyeur. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.640 We work with a lot of content creators, so it 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.080 allows them a chance to work studio style. In terms 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.200 of what we do what we like to provide. We 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.560 we kind of like to provide that experience you have 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.640 in a dream that you wake up from and you 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.560 just you just want to have it again, like intimacy, passion. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.560 We want to show connection between the performers as opposed 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.279 to just pounding and screaming as a. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.719 Place has a place, a place, it's just not this place. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.440 I mean, we have some of that, but yeah, at least. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.000 You're changing up the rhythm every now and then, you 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.720 know what I mean. You've been in the industry now 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.720 about six years. You started in twenty nineteen. What was 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.160 your start? Did you start with studio porn? Did you 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.480 start making your own stuff? What was sort of that 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.200 journey and decision like to start making porn? 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:06.520 Well, you know, I was like having wrus. Yeah, I 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:07.640 was like the sex plug. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.760 Like people come over and we'd have groups and we'd 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.360 have orgies, and there were times where we'd record them. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:15.600 We wouldn't post. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.560 Them or anything, but we would just have them just 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.600 to have them. And I started noticing something in the 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.720 faces of the people that we were having sex with. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.880 It was almost like they were possessed, and I didn't 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.880 see that in porn. So yeah, because it's the way 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:28.640 I have sex. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.760 Yeah, I've seen I'm not I'm not trying to like 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.280 hurt you. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.760 I'm not trying yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to prove 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.760 a point, trying to touch your soul. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.279 Yeah. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.120 I tell people, if there's no connection then then yeah no. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.000 And I think that element is the thing that has 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.479 really made you so successful. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.640 Well do you feel like it's so interesting? Because I 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.720 think so. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.279 I used to work as a cameraman for a porn 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.400 company and in studio porn. It does feel like you're 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.160 kind of like paired up. It's like when two main 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.040 actors are cast in a rom com, right, like you, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.520 you hope to have chemistry from the interview, you're not sure. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.120 And I think what's been kind of exciting about the 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.880 era of only fans and self made creators starting their 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.040 own company like yourself, is that you get to set 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.280 the vibe, you decide who to work with. You you 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.680 can establish a relationship. But that idea of it just 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.200 being a quick exchange, right, just get on set, do 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.080 the makeup, fucking leave. You're right, there's something you feel 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:24.600 that it's missing. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.120 This is gonna sound cheesy as fuck, but I Compare 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.479 it to theater and Hollywood filmmaking. Yeah, real actors love 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.120 doing plays where they can just go right through it 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.440 and that takes skill, and they hate the Hollywood process 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.560 where they have to stop and go and stop and go. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.640 And I feel like what I do. Compared it to 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.039 the studio I've done studio like for me, like, once 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.559 I get going, you know, we can't make me sweat. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.000 Yeah, take a lunch break. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:50.320 Yeah. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.480 No, I don't like to ever lose that connection because 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.760 sometimes you don't even get it back when you go down. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.480 It's like a sport. You want to keep going, going, going. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.440 Comparing it to live theater does kind of sense, right, 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.200 there's something a little more like active when you're watching 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.600 the Warrior stuff that feels it feels like it's in 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:05.960 the moment. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.800 We hope it comes out that way because you know, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.200 for us, the more we have to act, the more. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.600 We hate it because we're not really into it, Like 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.040 we want our audience to feel what we're feeling. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:16.800 That's what we call it. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.080 And sometimes you do have a crowd. You got folks watching. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.120 I was like, do you like a crowd? Do you 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:24.560 enjoy it? 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:24.920 You know what? 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.120 Yeah? I do like a crowd, especially when I get 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:27.560 the show off. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.760 Yeah, and then some people join and people watching. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.840 But I'm not having sex. I'll be like, I don't 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.920 know why anyone's interested in me. But then while I'm 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:41.480 having sex. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:41.720 Like. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:45.000 This is what. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.640 It's making sense. I want to talk about Brazil. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.160 Okay, we're still come to Brazil. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.520 You are Jersey boy end up going back and forth 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.600 to Brazil for a scouting for shooting, Like how did 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:01.040 that happen? 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.680 When I was twenty five, I had recently moved to 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.200 la and a friend was like, oh, you have to 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.520 come to Brazil, you know, And I'm like, I don't 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.640 want to go. I'm I'm from Jersey. I thought it 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.000 was just rainforest. So he was like, all right, get 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.000 your passport, We're going to Brazil. So me, him and 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.680 my boyfriend at the time went down to Brazil, and 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.120 I fell in love with the place because I hadn't 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.640 started working out yet. I was this insecure boy from 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.120 Jersey and when you get down there, you're not wearing 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.760 a swim trunks. They make sure you throw on a 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.400 speedout and I'm like, I look silly in this thing. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.520 I'm going to go back home and work out, but 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.760 at the same time, they still make you feel sexy 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.400 just the way they treat you. It's almost like you 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.199 have an immediate friend outside of anything sexual. When I 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.040 got into OnlyFans, I had friends in Brazil because I've 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.160 been going to Brazil for over a decade, so all 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.920 the guys out there were my friends. So I was like, oh, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.320 you know, there's this thing OnlyFans. Listen, I know how 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.880 y'all have sex. I can't if I have sex like that. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.719 So we yeah, we all kind of got together and 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.320 worked out how we'd all work together to get our 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.439 names out there. Amazing, a lot of the guys down 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.600 there before everything jumped off, you know that a lot 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.640 of studios would come down there and take advantage of them, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.199 paying them like pennies compared to what they pay other 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.480 guys in the other parts of the world. And in 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.600 my opinion, they did a thing better than the other guys. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.959 And they do it without attitude, and they do it 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.160 in a way in which they don't look at each 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.560 other as competition. They're looking at each other as helping 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.640 each other because for them, it's about survival, because they're 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.839 supporting their families, their loved ones. So it's nice to 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.679 see them like have an out or a way to 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.640 make a significant income without being taken advantage of. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.560 I mean, I've seen it as well. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.480 There's some studios that would bring people in for interviews 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.160 and as soon as the person said yes, they'd pop 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.520 them right in front of the camera without any training 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:48.080 any like. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.520 And they would never have any right to that video. Again. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.720 Yeah, there was one performer who had a company make 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.800 a dildo inspired by his dick without ever asking him 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.440 or telling him. Even so, they like not only stole 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.520 his image for the box, but claimed that the doldo 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.800 was shaped like his penis. People think they can get 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.280 away with some real sneaky ship in the porn industry, 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.560 and I think part of that is because people feel 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.880 like it's still underground right there. There's not a lot 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.040 of like openness in terms of talking about the industry. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.080 There aren't a lot of usis yeah exactly. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.199 You got to rely on someone who've been through it 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.319 and been you know, through those mistakes or been through 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:23.959 the trauma to be like, hey, look out for this 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.679 or do this, which it sounds like you're doing right, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.000 Like it sounds like there needs to be more people 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.599 like you're working at porn, who have that perspective of 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.120 being an actor and know what feels right and what 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:36.120 seems fair. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:36.600 At the end of the day. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.600 Talk to me about making that switch from actor to director. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.959 I feel like the Brazilians directed me based off of 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.800 the experiences that I've had there. When you're directing someone, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.920 you just you just teach them to be as natural, well, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:55.120 in my style, natural as possible. Establish a brand for 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.480 yourself what people are going to know you for, just 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.400 like a wweast, you know, get that special move. You 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.240 gotta get those moves in that people know you buy it. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.160 I'm thinking about my special moves. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.800 Going to be my main word to people before we 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.319 start is show off because you're on a stage and 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.719 you want when people see you, you want them to 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:15.959 want to see more of you. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.240 So show off. I say that to my bottoms too, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:23.880 even show off. I don't bottom much. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.920 Yeah, Chris is like a You're a very adventurous spirit, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.880 but it takes a while. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.679 To yeah, get around to it. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:30.160 Well. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.080 Also, I don't have a lot of tops in my life. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.400 That's what I was going to ask you. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.319 Number one, you're built the way you're built and you're 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.760 a black man, so people are always so do you 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.920 think you don't bottom much because you can't find. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.400 The top that you that is wanting or willing. Really, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.079 I just like I'm a bottom magnet. They see me 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.440 and they like reach out and like the tops don't 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:52.280 really I know. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.440 So many that would have asked about you, even all right, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:55.839 we're going to fix off, can we We're going to 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.559 send them my way back to Brooklyn right over? 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:00.800 Hi? 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:06.679 Hi? H No. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.360 But I mean that's also the fun. Fun part of 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.599 it is seeing someone with your energy, your character and 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.319 then like in that moment they just turned into something 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.160 totally different. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.679 Oh yeah, when my bottom switches on, Yeah, people are 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.400 always a surprised just turns. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.120 Into something totally different, just like me. I feel like 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:26.920 I have such a delightful. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.199 Conservative energy, but as soon as the sex turns on 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.640 and like it's I could be whispering in someone's ear. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:38.400 I'm like, because I think when we talked to you, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.240 I think the only impression I had of you was 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.800 from your porn scenes, and there's something very like not 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.880 not like authoritative, but there's something really kind of like 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.360 I got it right, You're you're kind of like the 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:49.760 guiding hand in the scene. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.160 Yeah, yeah, What does it take for you to get 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.000 into that mindset when you're on set? 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:56.200 Right? 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.679 Like, how do you go from the right heam, we're 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.800 talking to now to the right hem. That's like balls 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.600 d been whispering crazy shit and someone's here. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.960 Oh yo yo, it's funny, asked. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.640 I listened to the same song really with two songs, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.520 La La La La La by Ari Lennox, okay, and 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.120 I listened to open Up by Danielle Caesar, but it's 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:21.320 called open and then it's the kiss. On that first kiss, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.559 it's over. It's just like it's like match and I 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.920 look at it like a sport. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.280 Like this time the balls will be going back and forth. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.040 I'm curious were there any experiences you had as a 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.640 performer before you started directing where you had like pet 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.120 peeves and you were like, I never want to do 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.000 that as a director. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.160 And I never liked titles being attached to me. So 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.840 they wanted me to be at the top because you don't. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.800 I don't want to be labeled as I don't want 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.280 to be called daddy. I don't want none of that. Ye, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.920 I just want to be myself. Yeah, That's why Only 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.840 Fans is so great, is because we can be ourselves. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.400 Yeah, and I think there is a it's certainly changing 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.319 a bit, but there's a trend in studio where it's 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.680 like a right, you're the top of your top, your bottom, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.040 your bottom. It's nice to hear that you found some liberation, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.439 right to be yourself and not like an archetype. And 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.120 you did that by starting your own company. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:12.560 Yeah. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.559 Yeah, I don't wonder why that is, right, Like, why 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.360 are studios so beholden to these rigid. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.040 Because they work. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.920 I mean it's just like yeah TV, if there's a 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.240 trend that's popping, they're going to run into the ground. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:24.560 Yeah. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.520 When we do Only Fans, we kind of get to 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.360 experiment and see what works for us. When it's the studio, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.840 they're putting money into the project, so they're gonna want 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:33.800 to make sure they get the return. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:34.600 It's just like a movie. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.880 They're gonna they're gonna hire the stars that are gonna 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:38.640 get them the audience that they want. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.920 Are you contracted with those big studio or you are? Okay? 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:47.520 There used to be exclusive contracts from some common right, even. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.720 With the guys that I worked with Voyeur you know 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.040 a lot of people say, oh, you should sign them 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.640 to exclusive contracts, and I'm like, no, they're they're their 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.560 own businessmen, and I want them to act that way. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.280 Yeah, we just working together. Yeah, I want them to 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.200 come back if they want exactly. Yeah. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.200 I would imagine that's the kind of thing you've learned 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.240 being a being am. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.840 Because in all honesty, if I if I followed the 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.920 rules of an exclusive, I wouldn't have grown. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.400 Talking about studio porn, I feel like the nineties into 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.560 the two thousand's was sort of that last era where 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:23.160 we started seeing big budget porn right, like, so that's costumes, storylines. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.600 I feel like that's kind of fallen out of the mainstream. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.840 But if you had all the money in the world 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.680 and you could shoot like an old school porn scene, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.200 what would that porn sceine look like? 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.840 I would love like something out of the Matrix. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.960 Oh, I love that, like the full because people don't realize, like, 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.600 when I'm filming povs, I'm basically playing neo because I'm like. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.120 Wit one hand holding my phone. Okay, so Matrix were 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:53.680 we casting. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.400 I would love to cast Sean Zehyrin, who kind of 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.200 got me started Hazel Hoffman phrase melanin and then just like. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.440 A lot of the new performers. Are you liking the 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.520 new performers, that's the next generation of stars. I do okay, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.240 I do? You know? And you know what, let me 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.280 say this. I had to train myself early on. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.240 Don't ever become one of these performers who say, oh dang, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:18.760 as good as we used to do it. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.800 You have to realize, you know, things evolved. It's also 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:24.880 the ages that they. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.640 Feel comfortable during that stuff, because I don't feel like 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.840 I became even comfortable showing my face on an. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.240 App until I was in my thirties. You know how 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.640 we used to always just show the body. Oh my god, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:36.920 I always put my face out there. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.520 I mean, you've got a really beautiful one. The face 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.360 card never declined. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.240 Come on, now, you appreciate it. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.520 You knew that, and stop. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.240 It's so nice to hear. Are you guys together? Oh no, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.520 we just sound like we are, Mike a good couple. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.880 I can see it through the room. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.440 Surprise, surprise, top we can we start the scene and 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.800 everybody thinks they no, because you're gonna be the We're. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.960 Like I love that. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.640 Oh my god, No, you're you're you're my sister. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.560 No for sure, Yeah, yeah truly, but like my really 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.240 hots Okay, that's actually a little in senstuous. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.520 Maybe not my sister. You're a mesty all right, we're 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.200 not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that. We're 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.480 not family in that way that. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.679 It really does. When I learn what what is selling, 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.720 it's like, yeah, well it's like. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.000 The straight people love stepmoms hooking up with the sun, 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.440 and then the gays love twins getting fucked together. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:40.680 Like it's really wild. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.520 Am I allowed to ask you guys questions? What kind 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.359 of porn do you watch? I don't watch porn? You don't. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.000 Since getting sober, I have stopped watching a lot of porn. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.800 And now I have a lot of friends who are creators, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.359 and every time I would open an app, it would 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.200