WEBVTT - AJ Pierzynski

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to blow your mind here, Aj. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to regularly watch you play baseball in Minnesota. I was

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<v Speaker 1>based in Minnesota. I'm blowing your mind until two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three. I was there. I was doing theater until

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you came to watch me if you tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get cultured once or twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the only the only theater I went to is

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a pink concert once in a theater there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what theater it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the kind of theater that I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Aj Berzinski, and I fucking hate the Georgia Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Howdy folks, and welcome to another episode of Off the Beat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here. This is your host, Brian Baumgartner. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when people say that they've done something thousands of times,

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<v Speaker 1>usually they're exaggerating, right, Well, not my guest today. Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>legend AJ Prazinski. AJ retired from the major leagues back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen with over two thousand games played, all

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<v Speaker 1>as a catcher. By the way, the stat he says

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<v Speaker 1>he is most proud of he got over two thousand hits.

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<v Speaker 1>So many hits and as a catcher. No less, He's

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<v Speaker 1>a World Series champion, a two time All Star Silver

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<v Speaker 1>Slugger winner, and this is a very special one. He

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<v Speaker 1>was voted most hated by his colleagues in MLB. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's proud of that as well. Now, he may

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<v Speaker 1>have caused a few stirs in his career, but if

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me, it speaks to his grit, his competitiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>and well just how seriously he takes the game. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched him, I hated him, but getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>him now I respect him all the more. Plus he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a very good sense of humor about the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>at least when he's off the field. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, his bad boy reputation, his very impressive stats,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course his thoughts on the upcoming baseball playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Playoff Baseball, there is nothing like it. You also can

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<v Speaker 1>see him doing his thing as a game analyst on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox or on his incredible new show, foul Territory, which

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<v Speaker 1>he hosts every single day of the week. Now for

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<v Speaker 1>your listening pleasure, everybody here, he is the most hated

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<v Speaker 1>man in the game. My pal aj Persinski, Burble and Squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it burble and squeak, Ana, burble and squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook it every mon lift over from the nine before.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Aja? What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Brian? How are you, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm good. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I am just working my rear end off

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to keep up with you. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you were on suicide watch this

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<v Speaker 1>week after your little football game last weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I wiped it right from my memory banks already. See here,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the problem. I have like a Gator helmet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have Gator duct tape, and I have all these

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<v Speaker 2>Gator jerseys. But you can't see me, so there's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason for me to have all these props hanging around.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you see my shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore this, Thank god, I cannot see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wore this for you today. Bulldogs started out okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so is Florida. They're going to be terrible, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope not. I mean I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>them to be terrible, but I would like for him

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<v Speaker 2>to be decent. You know, listen, I get it was

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<v Speaker 2>a tough way to in Utah and all that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, first play of the game two defenders run

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<v Speaker 2>into each other and you give up a seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>yard bomb, It's usually not a good omen for a

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<v Speaker 2>good season.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great start. God, that was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so good. Listen. I'm rooting for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to at least be somewhat respectable so I can I

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<v Speaker 1>can get down there to Jacksonville again. That was That's

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<v Speaker 1>always entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to show your face this year at

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<v Speaker 2>the game?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of depends right there, worth be

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<v Speaker 1>traveling across the country to see a fifty two to

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<v Speaker 1>seven drumming?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the best ones? Are you kidding me? I

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<v Speaker 2>remember for years that was the best part about going

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida Georgia. Florida fifty two Georgia seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, well, listen, good luck the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. I do want to ask, are you

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<v Speaker 1>not a Tennessee fan?

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a Tennessee fan. They're my second favorite team.

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<v Speaker 1>You were recruited to go to Tennessee, as I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>and play baseball. You didn't do that, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>no allegiance there because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have no allegiance other than I mean my

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<v Speaker 2>claim to fame for my Tennessee allegiance is that I

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<v Speaker 2>went on a recruiting trip and Peyton Manning was there

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<v Speaker 2>the same weekend. I mean, other than that, there's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to my Tennessee fandom. I mean I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet Peyton Manning when he was in high school. But

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<v Speaker 2>other than that, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you were there the same weekend being recruited.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we were there on our official visits the

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<v Speaker 2>same exact weekend. I mean we kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is Peyton Manning. I'm like, who the

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<v Speaker 2>hell's Peyton Manning? And he's like, who the hell are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, we're on the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Team, all right. Unbelievable. So let's go back to Little

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<v Speaker 1>AJ's early days. So you were born in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did not know that, But then you you

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<v Speaker 1>went before high school down to Florida. What why Florida?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you go down there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my parents moved when I was two, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't even remember being in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I consider myself from Orlando. Honestly. We moved because my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was a builder, and that was right when Disney

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<v Speaker 2>World hit and so it was a big building boom.

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<v Speaker 2>So we moved down there and then my parents end

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<v Speaker 2>up being divorced real young and they both still are around.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both still around the Orlando area where I live.

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<v Speaker 2>But i mean, yeah, people were like, oh, you were

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<v Speaker 2>born in the Hamptons, you must be rich. I'm like, no, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents were Polish potato farmers that you know, had nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad was a contractor that had to move

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<v Speaker 2>to Orlando to make ends meet. My mom worked at

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<v Speaker 2>the phone company.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Were they into baseball? Were they into sports?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad definitely is. My dad played rugby at a

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<v Speaker 2>very competitive level. He also played basketball, Like my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, played basketball and did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in high school. My mom, you know, was around it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, back then, women's sports were a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't as easy, but my dad definitely was involved.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, my dad was still. My dad's like seventy

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<v Speaker 2>seven years old now and he's still like, is fighting

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<v Speaker 2>to play rugby. I mean he's got two knee replacements

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<v Speaker 2>and all kinds of broken bones, and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get out there again. I'm like, Dad, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's time.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think. I don't think I want to

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<v Speaker 2>play rugby anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all right, well fair enough. Did you play

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<v Speaker 1>other sports besides baseball growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I played basketball till my sophomore year high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I never played football, though, which is kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but I played. I was on

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<v Speaker 2>like the golf team in middle school, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>did some other flag football and stuff like that. Never

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<v Speaker 2>tackle football.

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<v Speaker 1>I never did either. It's so funny because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid we played football all the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if if organized football wasn't as big

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<v Speaker 1>then or something, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't either, So for me, it was more I always

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<v Speaker 2>liked baseball and so like when it came to tackle

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<v Speaker 2>football time. I mean, growing up in Florida, you played

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<v Speaker 2>baseball year round, so there was a fall season and

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<v Speaker 2>then we went right to basketball in the winter, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the spring it kicked into baseball and you

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<v Speaker 2>played that till the end of the summer. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just never was an option. And then when I moved,

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Orlando. Then I moved to a little

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<v Speaker 2>small town called Brooksville, which not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have heard of and it's outside Tampa. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a very tiny little town, which is great when you're

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<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen years old to grow up in, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, everybody, everybody knows you, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it just never was a thing. And then when I

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<v Speaker 2>moved back to Orlando my sophomore year high school, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I'm gonna try out for the basketball team.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, in Brooksville, you know, I was six

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<v Speaker 2>foot one and I was like, okay, I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we got to Orlando and I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a school with five thousand kids and they had these

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<v Speaker 2>six foot six dudes jumping over me. I'm like, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>time to focus on baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my family is from Orlando too. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>grew I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd she go to high school?

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<v Speaker 1>She I don't know, I don't, I mean, but like

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando proper, like she was from there and then went

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so she's like my wife. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I don't know if my mom is like your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>but well no.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she went to my wife went to Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>In Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking, like I mean, I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>your mom is about my parents' age. My stepdad went

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<v Speaker 2>to like Boone High School or Clonal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Boone Braves probably, I think that's it. That would

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<v Speaker 2>probably be like the main one that's been around here forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I honestly think that's it. I think she went

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<v Speaker 1>to Boone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need to get her name. I'll ask my stepdad.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they was, you know, they went to prom together

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<v Speaker 2>or something back and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then maybe maybe they did. Yeah, I mean, my grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was one of thirteen kids, you know. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>was born in Georgia's so a bunch state in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>but a bunch actually migrated down with my great grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>to Orlando. Yeah, okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My stepdad's family was all born in like Moultrie, from

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<v Speaker 2>South Georgia, and then they moved down. My stepdad's dad

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<v Speaker 2>owned a service station and down area called South Street,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like dead downtown now, but back then it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and they ran a motel, not a hotel, a

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<v Speaker 1>motel okay, and had a restaurant. Right, I'll look this up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you decide basketball is not your thing baseball. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point, I like to ask people this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all do activities as kids, sports or the arts

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. At what point for you is there a

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<v Speaker 1>transition between like I'm a kid hitting a ball to like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I really want to do or did

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<v Speaker 1>you just suddenly realize you were just better than everybody else?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it was kind of the fall of my junior year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I played JV freshman and sophomore year in

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<v Speaker 2>my high school. I say school was gigantic, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to understand how big it was. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>on JV and I was there was a good chance

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to be on JV my junior year

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<v Speaker 2>again because we had a senior catcher and he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up getting hurt. And I also grew like four or

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<v Speaker 2>five inches and put on like thirty or forty pounds

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<v Speaker 2>between my sophomore and junior seasons. But I also was young, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't turn sixteen until the middle of my

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<v Speaker 2>junior year, So I'm December thirtieth. Wow, So I turned

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen December of my junior year, so I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was already so I was actually a year ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>my parents liked me so much it made me start

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<v Speaker 2>school a year early, right, They couldn't wait to get

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the house. So like, I graduated just

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<v Speaker 2>having turned seventeen, as opposed to most people are eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>some kids are nineteen now. And so I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a later bloomer. And then I put

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<v Speaker 2>on a bunch of way and grew between my sophomore

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<v Speaker 2>and junior year, and then the kid ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>hurt and it was like whoa. When I came back

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<v Speaker 2>to school, the coaches were like, wait a minute, are

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<v Speaker 2>you the same kid that was here last year? And

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<v Speaker 2>so once I got the strength was when it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of started clicking a lot more. And I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 2>my junior year. We started playing a tournament and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I do okay, Like I get like one

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<v Speaker 2>hit in like ten at bats or something, and my

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<v Speaker 2>best friend's dad, I'll never forget this to that day.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes up to me and kid I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with forever and his dad comes up to me. His

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<v Speaker 2>son had just graduated from the school, and he comes

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<v Speaker 2>up to me and goes, man, you know what you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to use the phone? And I was like

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<v Speaker 2>for one, He's like, you need to call one hunter

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<v Speaker 2>get a hit, and I was like, oh okay. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like that right, And I've never forgotten this day

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<v Speaker 2>and that day. That day we had a game and

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<v Speaker 2>I hit my first high school home run and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like okay. I was like basically fuck off now

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm running around the bases and you know I now,

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<v Speaker 2>And then from that moment on, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do this, like I can I belong now.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like one of those things where he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he meant it as a joke, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was still like pissed because I was like, who are

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<v Speaker 2>you to say this to me?

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<v Speaker 1>You were high school teammates with I did not know

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<v Speaker 1>this With Johnny Damon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was way better than me though, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a senior. I was a sophomore. I was

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<v Speaker 2>on JV, he was on he was number one prospect guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Damon and super good. And then you had me

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<v Speaker 2>on JV flailing along. But yes, we were at high

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<v Speaker 2>school the same time. We're still super close. And I

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<v Speaker 2>actually saw him yesterday you did, yeah, ran into him randomly,

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<v Speaker 2>saw him at sushi. I went in to get sushi

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<v Speaker 2>and he was sitting in there with his wife and

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<v Speaker 2>his seventeen kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen kids, that's right. So at what point do you

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking about playing baseball beyond high school?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's kind of after that, Like after the summer

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<v Speaker 2>after my junior year was when it like really got

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because then all of a sudden, you start hearing

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<v Speaker 2>from these schools. Right, And this was back when you

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<v Speaker 2>had to actually send mail. There was like no emails

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<v Speaker 2>and there were like cell phone I'm going to Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>you or DM you and Twitter or whatever, so you

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<v Speaker 2>had to get you got mail. And my high school

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<v Speaker 2>coach was like, hey, there's a lot of schools that

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<v Speaker 2>have seen you and they really are interested. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think? And I was like, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it. And I went to this thing that summer.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a company now called Perfect Game is like the

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<v Speaker 2>industry leader, I guess you'd say, in like recruiting in

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<v Speaker 2>youth baseball. There's a few of them, but Perfect Game

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of the first one. They used to be

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<v Speaker 2>called Team One, And I went to this thing in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio called Team One National Showcase, and they brought basically

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<v Speaker 2>like the top, like seventy sixty five players in and

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<v Speaker 2>we did a workout and then we played games. And

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<v Speaker 2>after that, I mean, every school is called, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>all like, you know, we want you to come here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to come here, and like we already

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<v Speaker 2>kind of talked about. My school I want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to was Florida, Like I mean, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up a Gator fan. My family went there that

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<v Speaker 2>had lived in Florida. And I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go to University of Florida. And the

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<v Speaker 2>coach calls me I'll never forget my junior year and

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<v Speaker 2>says summer in my junior year, says, hey, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>recruit you. And I was like what. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>three kids in a row from your high school have

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<v Speaker 2>signed here and they all signed professional. I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>hot seat. I can't take the chance of you not

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<v Speaker 2>coming here. And I was like, listen, there's only one

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<v Speaker 2>school that I promise you I will go to. It's

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<v Speaker 2>University of Florida, and will I'll give you my word.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I can't take chance. I've heard that from

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Damon before and then he signed right and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I mean I respected that, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I was kind of pissed about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was like, well, if I can't go

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida, I'll go to their biggest rival, which is Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know if I play them and we could

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<v Speaker 2>kick their ass?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you mean it? Do you think? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert, he signs a letter to go to Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>and never goes because you get drafted in ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>But with Florida, you would have gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe I would have gone. Yes. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say a million percent, but listen, if there were,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, if there was one school that I

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<v Speaker 2>would have said yes to and I would have gone,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been Florida. That was the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because once I signed with Tennessee, like my heart was

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<v Speaker 2>there kind of, but it wasn't like I'm invested. I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up as a fan of this team. I rooted

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<v Speaker 2>for this team. I go to football games for this team. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, Okay, I went there once on a

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<v Speaker 2>visit and they played University of Georgia and they killed

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<v Speaker 2>them by like fifty two points. So I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>rooted for him. Once, but other than that, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really care about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk me through, how aware are you that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be drafted professionally? Like do you know this is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a crab shoot? Like like where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're you're like, okay, I'm going to Tennessee, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to enter the draft. What's that process like?

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<v Speaker 2>So the process is you just play right and then

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<v Speaker 2>get through. You get through your senior year, and the

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<v Speaker 2>draft was different. It was like at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>June and you end your high school season in like

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<v Speaker 2>early May in Florida, mid May, and so you start

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<v Speaker 2>hearing from these teams and they're like, they're saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to get drafted anywhere from this play

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<v Speaker 2>to this spot, and we're going to draft you in

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<v Speaker 2>this spot if you fall to us. And you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, this is a real possibility. So I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sat down my parents and said, Okay, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>number signing bonus wise that will accept And we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of remember this was almost thirty years ago now, and

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<v Speaker 2>and we kind of got to that number and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what about school, And I was like, well,

0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.480
<v Speaker 2>they pay for school. So they'll tell you, like they'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you four years of school that you can go

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<v Speaker 2>after you're done playing if you don't make it. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if you do make it, they'll pay for four years

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<v Speaker 2>of school. So it gets time to draft time. Back then,

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<v Speaker 2>you sat there literally with like a you just sat

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<v Speaker 2>at your house. There was no again, there was no internet,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no MLB network, there was no draft coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just you got a phone call. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, you know, the draft starts to like let's

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<v Speaker 2>say one PM, and you're sitting there waiting. You're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to guess like where they're at in the draft, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking, okay, well this team said they're gonna draft me.

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<v Speaker 2>Here did they did it? The phone finally rings because

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, you know, please nobody call the house from

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<v Speaker 2>like one to five pm, right, because god, you call

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<v Speaker 2>waiting or the click team calls and I don't it

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<v Speaker 2>gets a busy sign, right, are they not gonna draft me?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I get a call and I pick it up

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the Minnesota Twins calling the GM and he says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is Terry Ryan and the GM of

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<v Speaker 2>the Twins. We draft you seventieth. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>overall third round and a Scott will be in touch

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<v Speaker 2>and click, oh okay, that's it. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 2>literally it. That was the phone call like cool, that's

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<v Speaker 2>so amazing. Yeah, we'll be in touch in the next week. Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what what do I do? And then so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days later, the scout local scout calls me.

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<v Speaker 2>He would watch me and convince them to draft me.

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<v Speaker 2>He shows up my house and says, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who drafted you, dad, dah, here's our contract offer.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're like, well, okay, it's not exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted, but little negotiation and I think within two

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<v Speaker 2>days we had figured out. I mean, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go play. At that point, I was like, I don't

0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 2>want to waste time, you know, arguing over ten thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a lot of money. But back then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, I'm seventeen years old. I got

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<v Speaker 2>enough money, you know, I thought last I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, six fakers. I was like, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>am rich for the rest of my life, right, you know.

0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>And my parents were good and said, yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go play, we support you. And they gave

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<v Speaker 2>me four years of school. They basically matched tuition at

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee for four years and went away and signed and

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<v Speaker 2>went and played. But I tell you what, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a hard phone call to like the Tennessee coaches to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm signing because they had recruited you. They

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<v Speaker 2>put their time and effort into their kind of counting

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<v Speaker 2>on you to show up. So that was a hard

0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 2>phone call. But uh, you know, people always ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>do you wish you would have gone to college? The

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<v Speaker 2>answer is no. But would I tell other people to

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<v Speaker 2>go to college? Almost exclusively, I would say yes, because listen,

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.879
<v Speaker 2>you have understayd. I was a lot different than most

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<v Speaker 2>kids at that age. I didn't drink, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really go out, and I didn't party, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. I was just baseball, baseball, baseball. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was just ready to go. And then when you sign,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the minor leagues. You know these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are you know you play with twenty kids out of college.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seventeen. These kids are twenty one, twenty two. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going out and drinking, and I'm like, I'm not even eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even vote yet. Like you guys, have you

0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 2>guys have fun? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about this before, but I'm curious because god,

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks to me. I you know, I played baseball

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. We've talked a little bit about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>played catcher for a very short period of time. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, how the hell are you doing? I mean no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like it it has to be physiological in

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<v Speaker 1>some way, right, I mean, have you ever talked to

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<v Speaker 1>any other catchers about that? I mean, it has to

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 1>be your thighs, you're growing, it's so difficult. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>just love that? Did you love being in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it? What was it about catching that made you

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<v Speaker 1>stay there? Or were you just that good at it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean have you You've obviously met me, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know that I love like being in the middle of shit. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's right when I was I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>about eight years old, right. Our catcher on our little

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<v Speaker 2>league team was hurt. They're like, hey, we need someone

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.280
<v Speaker 2>to catch, and I literally was like, I'll do it,

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll try it. And I fell in love with it

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<v Speaker 2>one because here's the thing, Like, as a catcher, you

0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.680
<v Speaker 2>are involved in every single play and you're the only

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 2>position where all the eyes are on you at all times. Right,

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.239
<v Speaker 2>every every fielder is looking at me. I'm like the rooster. Right,

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, let's go right plus plus back. Then you

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 2>got all the cool gear. I mean you got a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger bag because you had catcher's equipment. Right. Everyone else

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 2>had a bat and a glove. I had chest protect

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.160
<v Speaker 2>in a mask. Right, I had to wear a cup.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, this is cool. And so I just

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<v Speaker 2>it just continued because I was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>every play. Like before that, I kind of played shortstop

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you get like two balls a game,

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<v Speaker 2>but screw that, man, this is every pitch. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the physical part of it is that. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm very lucky genetically. I guess I need

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<v Speaker 2>to thank my parents. But like, I have no problems

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<v Speaker 2>like knees hips, anything, back arm I literally have no

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<v Speaker 2>problems at all. And people are like, there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>you caught two thousand games in the big ones. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you, I have no issues at all. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ask people that know me, they'll say mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fucked up, but yeah, physically I can. I tell

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<v Speaker 2>people all the time, Like I could go catch a

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<v Speaker 2>game tomorrow. I mean I'd be sore, obviously, but I

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<v Speaker 2>could physically do it.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want to do it? No, because I know

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<v Speaker 2>what it takes to get there. But I mean I

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 2>physically could go tomorrow and be like I catch, I

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 2>catch nine innings tomorrow. I might not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>hit hit a baseball because I haven't done it so long,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could. I could catch it. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>You get drafted by the Twins, you decide to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to the Gulf Coast League Twins, the Elizabethton Twins,

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Fort Wayne Wizards, Fort Myers Miracle, New Britain rock Cats,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Salt Lake Buzz. Tell me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about that time. Is it difficult for you or did

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<v Speaker 1>you love it?

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<v Speaker 2>The traveling down Listen, I loved it because I was,

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I was like this baseball, baseball, baseball

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Heck, my life is still like baseball.

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like, jeez, even my kid plays baseball. My gosh,

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.439
<v Speaker 2>can we play something else? But listen, when I signed,

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I went to Golf Coast League, and I was, you

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<v Speaker 2>get these kids from all over the country, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>was from Florida, I went to Fort Myers. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>so hot, and I'm like, dude, this is great. I

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<v Speaker 2>played three games a day in this I'll play all

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<v Speaker 2>day long, right, and these other kids from up north

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.439
<v Speaker 2>are dying. Then I went to Fort I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Wayne to start the next year, which is my

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<v Speaker 2>first full season ninety five, and I was there for

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<v Speaker 2>about a month or and a half and I got mono. Right.

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I got Mono in Appleton, Wisconsin. I'll never get it

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<v Speaker 2>hit me. We had like a thirteen hour bus ride

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and I was like dying. I'm literally like I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to die on this bus right here because I was

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>in so much pain from like, I guess your spleen

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>gets messed up. So I was just laying on this

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<v Speaker 2>bus and everyone's like, you know, quarantined away from me

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>because they're like, we don't want anyone else to get this, right.

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>So I ride thirteen hours on this bus, get back,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're like, all right, well you have to

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<v Speaker 2>go home. So I went home for six weeks, right,

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>lost about forty five pounds because if you've ever had mono,

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you can't do it. I couldn't walk to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of my driveway and it was a short driveway to

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<v Speaker 2>get the garbage cans out and wanting to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep. So I come back after six weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>they send me to Elizabeth In which is in North Carolina, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great old town and I show up

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'll never forget because Fort Wayne was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a ball and we had the brace nice brand new

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<v Speaker 2>stadium and all these fans. He show up at elizabeth

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's like this wreck park, and I never forget.

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I drove out with my mom and I said, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show on the on the side of the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom looks at me and goes, man, what

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>the hell did you do to deserve this? And I

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 2>was like all right? And so I went and played.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first day back I had to catch a

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>doubleheader and I hadn't played in six weeks. And they're like,

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.239
<v Speaker 2>are you okay, And I'm like yeah, and I'm like, well,

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the other catcher's flights delayed, so you're the only catcher

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 2>we got, so we need you to catch, you know,

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 2>both ends of the double And I'm like, man, no,

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>probably whatever did it? Boom? And the trainer at the time,

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Dave Prumer, who ended up being a

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 2>big league trainer for the Twins. He's like, we need

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you to put weight back on, so how are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it? And I'm like, I don't know.

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I want you to go and eat fast food.

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>And there's a dairy queen. There was a dairy queen

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>across street. He's like, you get dairy queen every day

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and you eat ice cream until you put the weight

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<v Speaker 2>back on. So literally, I come into the ballpark with

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>dairy Queen, a peanut buster park fane. I was like

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 2>shoveling in the cow because I was I mean I

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>was so skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Baseball unlike any other sport, right, I mean that life,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>those years leading up to making in the big leagues,

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that's you feel that, right, It's unique to anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best I tell people. Like people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the minor leagues are horrible. Yeah they were at the time,

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>but you look back on them and like, those guys

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 2>are like your guys. I mean those are still my friends.

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, big leag friends are big leag friends. But

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<v Speaker 2>once you make it and you kind of got some

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<v Speaker 2>money and you got some success, it changes you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. It haes. It just naturally does. Right. Everyone's like, oh,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm the same, but you change, You just naturally do

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 2>because you have money and you kind of like, well

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I can afford better stuff, and I'm you know, like

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>this and that, right, But I mean think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're you know, you're twenty years old. Okay, I'm in

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Fort Myers, twenty years old, making a thousand bucks a

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<v Speaker 2>month before taxes. Right, We're trying to find a place

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<v Speaker 2>to live. So we stuffed five of us into a

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, three bedroom apart. One guy's on the couch,

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<v Speaker 2>one guy's on the air mattress, three of us get beds,

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to figure out, all right, well, how

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>we get seven dollars a day meal money on the road? Well,

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>what the hell can you? And you got to give

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>five of it to the clubhouse guys. You're really trying

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to live off two dollars a day, which is impossible.

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And so you just become tight with those guys because

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 2>you're all going through the same things. Everyone's struggling to

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>get by on a daily basis. How can we make

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>this more fun? And then again, now this is before

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>cell phones and all the stuff that happens. But I mean,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, you could go to a bar and you

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>could have fun and get away with a little bit

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>more than you can now because of no cell phones.

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, we were like, man, where can we

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>find like cheap drinks and where can we find cheap food?

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 2>And we bought an electric grill from like Costco or

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Sam's Club, right, and we would get Omaha steaks at

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the year, like we would all split it,

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like the four of us, five of us, we'd split

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it and we'd get a thing and that would last

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>us all year. We grill on this little electric grill.

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<v Speaker 2>We get like a canopies from publics and that was

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<v Speaker 2>like dinner. It was like a canopies or velveta shells

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and cheese with tuna fish and a cantatoon am. Like

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that was just dinner lunch. I mean, that was just

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>how you did it. And it was it wasn't even

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 2>like a It was great because we were all eating

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the same crap and doing the same crap, and we're

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>all together and it was all right, we're going to

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>get through this somehow. And that's the bond you get

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 2>in the minor leagues is as special, especially guys you

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 2>play with a bunch and kind of come up with

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<v Speaker 2>is where it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever heard this, but Aj

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>and I we play in a few golf events together,

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<v Speaker 1>one on the corn Ferry Tour. I was once told

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<v Speaker 1>this that they intentionally pay the corn fairy players less

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<v Speaker 1>because they are trying to make them hungry to work

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>as hard as they can to move out of it.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>That there is more money that they could siphon to

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<v Speaker 1>them based on the financial models, but they want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them hungry. Do you think that there's a similarity

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<v Speaker 1>in minor leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>It's changed now. It used to be I think like that,

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>but now MLB bought the minor league some mainztlam baseball,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and now it's a different model. Now it's they treat

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>them better, they feed them better, they house them better.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean we were on our own for housing. I

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>mean I remember I got to play in the Hawaii

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Hawaii for winter ball for three months, so I lived

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>in Honolulu two thousand dollars a month. Okay in Honolulu.

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<v Speaker 2>This is nineteen ninety seven, still twenty five years ago.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But if you've never been to Honolulu. Explain how you're

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. That's before taxes now, so it's really only

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 2>one thousand bucks a month. You got to find a

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>place to live, you gotta find food, you got to everything. Car.

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>We had to rent a car, so two of five

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>of us lived in a two bedroom apartment in wan

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Waikiki Beach. There was the cheapest department we could find,

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and we all rented one car. So we all had

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to go to the same places together. And you're like, okay,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>well we'll make it work. We had a Jack in

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>the box like four times a week.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety eight, you finally make the big leagues

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<v Speaker 1>with the twins. What's it like walking on the field

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>So on our show my podcast that I do foul Territory.

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>The other day, we had Mark McGuire on Okay. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, a year with all the home run record,

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Chase went with him and Sosa. That's right, first day

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<v Speaker 2>I get called up from Salt Lake City to Anaheim

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>or playing the Angels. Okay, So never forget this first

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>date and the days easy. It was nine eight ninety eight,

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>so it's super easy to remember. Was the day, Mark

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>McGuire hit sixty two. So we walk out on the

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>field for batting practice and we're on the West coast

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>there in Saint Louis. Everyone stops and on the big

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>screen on Anaheim and they have the they show the

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>is it bad? And he hits the home run. The

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>place goes crazy. I'm like, damn, this Big League is

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool, like they do it every day or

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>what and it was and Mark McGuire's like, damn, you know,

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm glad I could be a party in

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>your memories. And I was like, yeah, I mean, something

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll never forget as a human being, right, And then

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, And then I didn't play in that first game,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>but I mean it was just you're taking everything in

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and we were just staring at everything and watching everything

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and trying to figure everything out. And I got to

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>actually get in the next day, which was my debut,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and they put me in like the fifth inning and

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>we were losing like seven nothing. They're like, yeah, don't

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>get go catch and I was like, oh shit. You know,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you're always a little bit nervous. I don't, but you're

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>just more excited because you're like, oh man, am, I

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>am I good for this? Right? I can I do

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>this on this look? And I run out there and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I throw the ball to second base between

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 2>ings and I mean I launched it into center field.

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And Ron Gardenhire was our third base coach and he

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>was the end up being our manager for the Twins.

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>After that, he just sicks at me and goes, nice

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking throw and I was like, are you waiting? Saw that?

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>And it was kind of like a nice breaking moment.

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'll and I remember my first at bat and

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I walk up to the plate and we're in Anaheim

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and I was facing Omar Oliveris and I'm just in

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>my head, I'm just like, I just don't want to

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>strike out. I don't care what I do. I'm just

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not striking out my first I'm gonna proved to

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<v Speaker 2>myself that I can hit a major league picture. And

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I hit a ground balled a second and I was

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>so happy. I just ran to first ran off and

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I can hit a major league picture.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>And from I was just believed happy. And it's one

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>of the few times in life where you're making out

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're you're super excited about it.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, with Tom Kelly still the manager.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Then he was Yeah, okay, Crotchy the old bastard.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm about to blow your mind here, Aja.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I used to regularly watch you play baseball in Minnesota.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I was based in Minnesota. I'm blowing your mind until

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. I was there. I was doing

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>theater in town. Maybe you came to watch me if

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>you tried to get cultured once or t what now?

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>The only the only theater I went to is I

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>went to a pink concert once in a theater there.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what theater it was.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the kind of theater that I

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. Yep, I used to. I used to

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>go to Twins games, uh as a as a childhood

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>fan of the Atlanta Braves. I was not a Twins fan,

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>but I remember going.

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I was not either, by the way, because I was

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a Braves fan. I I mean I growing up in Florida.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I was a Braves fan. Like Dale Murphy was my guy, right,

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>oh right, that was me. So they beat him in

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, Yeah, and I was. And then I get

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>drafted by him, like I fucking hate you guys, Like

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>all the teams like, but yeah, I mean I was

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a Braves fan. I mean I listen, I you know,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I got to finish my career with the Braves, so

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it was great. But my favorite, you know, we're talking

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>about Murphy. Murph by the way, if you haven't met him,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>he's like the greatest human being in the world. So

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the first time I'm in spring training, I have my

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>son with me, right, and the Braves were notorious for

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>like not having kids in the clubhouse, not having kids around.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, screw this. I'm thirty eight years old.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm breaking all the rules. So I had my kid

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>out there with me, and uh, Murph walks up and

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>he's he introduced himself to me. He's like, Hi, I'm

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Del Murphy. And I'm just like, uh, my son's like

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>what he looks at me. He's like eight years old

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>at the time. He's like, dad, what's wrong with you?

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, dude, like this is my guy. Girl,

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what to say to him. He's like,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>who is it, you know, because he doesn't know I'm

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>like Dale Murphy. He's like, who the hell is Dale Murphy? Right,

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and he starts talking to him whatever, But like that

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>was you know, when you grow when you meet the

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.719
<v Speaker 2>guy and he's even nicer in person than you've heard,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>especially like a guy you grew up rooting for, it

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>makes it really special.

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I love to hear that, and I love

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to hear that there is a person that would do

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that to you. I've never witnessed it, but I liked

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that there's a person that would do it.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>He was the one. He's probably the one person I've

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 2>ever met where I was like, Okay, this is like

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 2>my favorite person of all time.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah again.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And I had heard all these stories about what a

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>nice guy he was, and then when you talk I mean,

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>when you talk to him, I mean, it blows your

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>mind with just what a nice fella he is and

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>just all the great career and he should be in

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame. And I'll die on that hill.

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For me, it was three of the guys that

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>played with you, Glavin, Smoltz and Maddox understood.

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you're a fairweather. You didn't like

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.239
<v Speaker 2>them when they sucked in the eighties, you liked him

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties when they were good.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Murphy was my guy. Early on. Murphy was my

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>guy early on. But yeah, those guys, I loved watching them.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You leave the Twin, you make the All Star Game

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, you

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>have another solid year, You're traded to the Giants. You happy?

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>No, No, not at all. Listen, as an athlete, you

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>always think you're going to be part of one organization

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>team that drafts you, develops, you get you to the

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 2>big leagues. You're there. I was there for almost ten years.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I'm gonna be this for life. And I

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>was doing well. It wasn't like I was sucking, right,

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>So you think, man, I'm gonna be here forever, and

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>then they trade me, And honestly, I was not happy

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>at all. And the only thing I was happy about

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>is that San Francisco at the time was very competitive

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and Barry Bonds was the best player in the world.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>So and I had known Barry from when I went

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>over to Japan with him in two thousand and two. Okay,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't going in blind, but man I was.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 2>It just kind of the first I can't really describe

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>it would I don't know how I can put this

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>in acting terms. It would be like, all right, you're

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>on the office and you're like, okay, I'm gonna be

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 2>in the office for the twenty years, okay. And then

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>they call you and like, oh, by the way, no

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>we treat You're on Seinfeld now right, And you're like, wait,

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>what this is weird? And you walk in the first

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>day and it's not that anything's different other than like

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the uniform, but everything is different, like the clubhouse and

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the where you go and what you do.

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And your routine yeah yeah, and the people so.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so so, but it's still baseball. But you're like, gosh,

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>this is just weird. And plus, you know, I'm East

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>coast guy, Florida. You know, San Francisco's about as far

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 2>as way as you can get. My parents are like,

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we can't watch the games. Then I'll start till ten o'clock.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 2>And so, I mean, it's just little things like that.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And listen, San Francisco was a great city, great fans,

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>very passionate about the game. And listen, I got to

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>see the greatest baseball season I've ever seen two thousand

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and four. If you haven't seen it, look up Barry

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Bond's numbers that year. I mean, he walked two hundred

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 2>he walked two hundred and seventy times or some I

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>mean his numbers. You're just and I got to stand

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>there and have a front row seat to it, so

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I would never change anything about it. But yeah, when

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 2>you get traded the first time, it hurts and it's hard.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>What about your move to the White Sox.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>H Well, I was released by the Giants after the year.

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I had a good year, but they didn't want to

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>pay me more money. So I go to the White

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Sox and people always question, like why the White Sox. Well, listen,

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I had other offers for more money, but when I

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>spoke to the White Sox, they were like, we've got

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>this team and we think it's going to be pretty special.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>And I actually signed there for less than I could

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 2>have gotten from other places, and we ended up winning

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 2>the World Series that year. But listen, I grew up

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>a twin, right, I'm a Minnesota twin, and we hated

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox because they talked trash and we used

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 2>to just beat them, and every time we beat them,

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>they talked more trash. We're like, dude, we've beat yells

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>asked for three years and now four years we all

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>shut up and they would just keep talking. And so

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I get I signed over there, and I go to

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 2>socks Fest, which is like their fan fest. And I

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>pull up in a car from the airport and we

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>go to this hotel and it's all white Sox people.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>My wife was with me, and I looked at her

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and she looks at me, and he's like, this is

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>really weird for you, isn't it. I'm like, this is

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>so fucking strange right now. And I walk in and

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, gosh, it's because I mean not you know,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you brought up to take the teams in your division

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and so but I was there and uh, listen, great

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 2>group of people there. It's obviously we won the World

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Series eight year, so it just was a perfect fit.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you consider yourself now, Wight suck Well? Is

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>that because you won?

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I mean I played at the major league level

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>there the longest, and I think if you ask most

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 2>people they would say that there's some some Twins fans

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>and hang on to some of that. I listen, I

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 2>love the people. All the organizations I played in I

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>played in seven had have special people. But listen, you win,

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you win with an organization and especially eighty eight years

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 2>and nothing. You know, you win with that organization. You

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 2>have special bonds with guys, and there's a lot of

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>people that I put that I were there when I played.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>They're still there, so the bonds are still alive. Right,

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Plus they pay me, so you know, I have to

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>say nice things about them.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But if they weren't, you would say the same thing.

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Like that's kind of home, right, Chicago's home.

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to go there this weekend. It's it's just

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 2>it's just home.

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask you about this. You the next year,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>after two thousand and five, you win the whole thing.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You broke the American League record nine hundred and sixty

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>two errorless consecutive chances. You broke a record that was

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty over fifty years old, Yogi bearra Is that the

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>stat that you're most proud of or is there something else? No?

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.959
<v Speaker 2>I never played another position. That's the one that people

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>are like, you never played first base or outfield? Nope,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 2>fuck off, I played one. I was a catch. But

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you what. I still remember the play

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 2>where I fucked that streak up, and I'm still pissed

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>about it. Really, yeah, it was a bunt. It was

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>a butt down the first baseline. I threw it and

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I shorted it, and I was pissed at an Ergo

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.439
<v Speaker 2>for not picking it. So I'm still mad at you, Paul.

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 2>If you listen to this. It was just a terrible throw,

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>but it was like a perfect bunt. Jerry Harrison hit it,

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 2>bunted it down the first baseline and I was full

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>sprint and I just shorted it and Paul missed it

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 2>and they gave me an air and I was just like, well,

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been like a whole year without making an air.

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I just fucked out one.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, let's just say people didn't like you playing

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>against you. Ozzie Geean, your White Sox manager, once said

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>this quote. I'm sure you've heard it. If you play

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>against him, you hate him. If you play with him,

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you hate him a little less. You love that reputation.

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I love it. You know what it did for me

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>got me into professional wrestling and got me a lot

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>of opportunities off the field, And I think I think

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>people that that don't know me off the field, like

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is why, like professional wrestling is the

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 2>perfect analogy for this. You have a wrestling character. That's

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>your character when the camera's on sort of acting. Right,

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>you're acting, you're keV from the office, right, but then

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>when you talk to you, you're not that guy in

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>real life.

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's an act, right, So when I played.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>You put on an act when you played I.

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to know. I had to hate the other

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 2>team to play well, to play well, that was my thing,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and I had to just I had to boil myself

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>up and I'd fake, I'd make it up, I'd make

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>shit up. This guy said this when he might not

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>have said that, but in my mind he said that

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming and and that was just how I had

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to do it. And it wasn't at listen, I don't

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>recommend that to anybody because it's really hard. That's when

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I knew I was done. I couldn't do it anymore.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I was like being nice to people, and I'm like,

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>what the hell's wrong with me? Like, I get me

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>nice on the I'm like saying I do people on

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the field, like, no, this.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't work, you're the game.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah I never did that.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>No, No, like Magic and Isaiah Thomas, but yeah the thing, yeah.

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, like it was just different. I couldn't I

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get the hate I had to play with like

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 2>a hate And it sounds so dumb like to people

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that haven't really played, like we all have a motivation

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>in our life, right, Well, my motivation was thinking the

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 2>other team hated me and I'm gonna show them, Like

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>That's why if somebody's like, you can't do this, I'm

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>like fuck you, like I'll kill myself trying to figure

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>this out. So that was how I played on the

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 2>daily baby, and that's why I also was able to

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>play every day because I could fake it, like I

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:34.919
<v Speaker 2>mean when I'd mean fake it, like I could fake

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the other team's mad at me or hate it. And

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>then so therefore it drove me to be like, all right,

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go and I'm gonna fight every ounce of

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 2>me to try to win this game. And I think

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the one thing if you ask, like, yes, you

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>ask Guzzie, because I've talked to Ozzie all the time still,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like he'll tell you like he loved I mean, I

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>think I'll say this, but he has interviews like he

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>loved having me on the team because I would show

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 2>up every day and I'd get in people's asses and

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, let's go. I was ready to go always,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 2>And that's why Ozzie and I got along because he

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>played me every day and I wanted to play every

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>day and he was. There was never a question like

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 2>can you play? He knew if I showed up, I

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 2>was ready to go.

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you something. I like truly like you.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you're a great guy. You really make me laugh.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>As a player, I hated you.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I wanted to get that year with Bonds

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're taught. I remember. I feel like I watched

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>every single pitch and I was like that mother like

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, like I want. I wanted nothing but for

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you to fail.

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>So it worked.

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you were doing, it worked.

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 2>So it became a running a running theme right of

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 2>of my teammates. If we went to a away game

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't get booed, they're like, he's gonna suck.

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>But if they stood up like it booed the shit

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>out of me, they're like, oh, he's going deep today.

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, thank you, like because it got

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>me going, Like I mean, after the two thousand five playoffs,

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you go to Anna and they bow the shit out

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of me. Right. Teammates are like, oh no, I Reguly.

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>We go to Wrigley, They're like ooh, and they're like, oh,

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>they have no idea what they just did. I'm like,

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I mean I live for it, like I live, live, live,

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>live for like the emotion. Because there's there's an old thing.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who said it. You know, they don't

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>boo you for no reason. They bow you because you

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 2>broke their heart usually right, and they don't boot nobody's

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 2>so to me. In my mind, I was like it

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>was a badge of honor, like the louder, the better

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>bring it on.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Is there ever anything that you did to instigate that

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you regret.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>There's always things you look back on and say, man,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I wish it wouldn't have done that. You know, I've

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>talked a lot of shit. I mean not. It wasn't

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 2>a personal thing. It was more to myself, like I

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>was talking. It would come out loud, but it was

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>more to myself, like it was a way I motivated myself. No,

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have time, like Pete. That's always what people say,

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh you talked to people. I'm like, dude, there's no way.

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't have time. There's no time for that to

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, you know, like the major league scene,

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>or oh I have pictures of your mother or whatever

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Bull Durham, like you don't have time for that. Plus

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 2>guy has a bat and I'm standing there with no bat,

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>like we're gonna I'm not gonna say them to a

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>dude that can whack me with a bat. But I mean,

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 2>like I would pop up and I'd be like you motherfucker,

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>like you know, or I'd say a bad word and

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>throw my bat like that was a minute. The picture

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that was more mad at me, but the only one

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I wish there was a There was a play when

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. I stepped on Justin Moreno's foot. It was

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>an accident. It turned into a big deal and I

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>played with Moren and and he thought, you know, I

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, look, man, I'm sorry. I apologized him to

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 2>do it right there, and it turned into a big

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>to do and I was That's the one thing. I mean,

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of others. There was one time

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>running off the field in San Francisco, fans were booing

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the shit out. I mean, I was a giant at

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the time. Two thousand and four and I kind of

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 2>gave the old scratch my face bird to a guy

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.919
<v Speaker 2>and they caught it on camera and I got called

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>into the office the next day and by the GM

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, did you do this? And I was

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>like what, I'm scratching my face and he's like, really,

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 2>like I'm smarter than that, and I was like, eh, well,

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, it's just all dumb shit do

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you do over the course of my career and us,

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 2>So there's not a lot that I would change. I mean, listen,

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>when you get to a point when you have kids, right,

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I have an eighteen year old and a sixteen year old.

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>They know how the internet, so everything is out there.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>So there's things where like Dad, did you really do this?

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Or did you do this? And yeah, I know, you know,

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not your proudest moment when your kids see when

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you're in the middle of it, you know, say whatever

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you want about me. But when my kids have to

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.240
<v Speaker 2>read it, that's when it kind of hits home.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Right. My favorite was, which I had forgotten about, but

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>looking through the research on you that you successfully. By

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, had a campaign in two thousand and six

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to make the All Star Game, and the slogan was

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>punch aj because you used to have to punch the

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>ballots and people wanting to punch you. That makes me laugh.

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>But the WW, did you ever consider doing more with that?

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I did as much as I could. I mean, listen,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I I've been in there. I did. WW was kind

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>of like the Holy The only thing I got to

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>do with them is I got to do a couple

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like standings. And then I got to do a thing

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 2>with Bob Barker, God Rest his soul, where they called

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 2>me out of the crowd and I got to run

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>around and do some dumb shit with him, which is great.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I got to get in the ring, like I mean, listen,

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I hit dudes with chairs, I hit dudes with home plates.

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I've hit dudes with all kinds of stuff, right, And

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>anyone that sells me wrestling's fake is listen. I know

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>how hard I hit those sons of bitches with chairs

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. It ain't fake like I'm hitting them now.

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 2>The endings might be scripted, well, listen, the action and

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 2>the moves and all the stuff they do that's junk

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 2>is real, man, and I respect the hell out of

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 2>those dudes.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>The end of your career, you go to the Rangers,

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you go to the other Socks, the Red Sox, Cardinals,

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you finish with the Braves, and in twenty fifteen you

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>reach over two thousand games played. You mentioned it before,

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>You're clearly proud of that, and had your tooth thousandth

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>career hit, something only thirteen other catchers in the history

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of the game is done. By the way, are you

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>aware of that milestone in the moment? Are you? Are you?

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you gunning for it?

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah.

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So in twenty six twenty fifteen, I finished like fifteen

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>hits short or something, and then so I'm like, well,

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play one more year to twenty sixteen. So

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I come out and I get off to an awful start, right,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 2>and I get to like thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine,

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and we have like a two games left in the

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 2>home stand. My family all flew in and they all

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be there, and of course I go like,

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>oh for eight with like seven strikeouts because I am

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 2>trying my ass off right right to get this hit

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>in front of my family. And then we ended up

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 2>going to Boston and I got it the next day.

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>But it was like, I was kind of anti climactic

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>because I did it, and I didn't do it in Atlanta.

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I did it in Boston. They didn't really give a

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>shit because I just played there and they you know,

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 2>they didn't even like put it on the scoreboard or anything.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Would have been cool if they could have at least

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 2>have been like congratulations, you know, but they didn't do anything. Well,

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>my teammates obviously new but yeah, I was chasing it then.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 2>And the one that I'm I'm probably more proud of

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 2>is that I have four hundred doubles, which is only

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 2>four catchers I think have ever done at the time.

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 2>And I did that actually at the White Sox and

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that was so that was kind of cool my last

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 2>year to do that at the against the White Sox

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago. That one was kind of the thing that

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, the two thousand hits is great,

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 2>but the four hundred doubles, And like I said at

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the time, I think I was the fourth catcher to

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>ever do it.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. You retire in twenty seventeen, What made you

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>know it was time to go?

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I would we talked to me. I couldn't fake it.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Anymore.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't fake the I couldn't fake the hate. And

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 2>my kids, Listen, my kids were old when I retired.

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was thirty nine going on forty, right,

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>so I was forty years old to turn forty in

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the offseason, and I knew I had a I was

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 2>fortunate enough. I have a still worked for Fox and

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>calling games, and they're kind of were like, hey, if

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you retire, we'll give you a job. And I was like, Okay,

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>it means more time at home, but it also means

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>more time at home, right, Right, it's a hard thing.

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know, as in your profession of acting, like

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>if somebody came to you with the wife or somebody

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I need you to retire, and you in

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>your heart you didn't believe that it was time, you

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>would probably regret them for the rest of your life. Right.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 2>My wife would always say, I'm never going to tell

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.359
<v Speaker 2>you when it's time, because if I do that, you'll

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>regret me for the rest of my life, because you

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.479
<v Speaker 2>would always think, man, you know, I should have kept playing,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>or I should have done this. And after twenty sixteen,

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it was just a hard I didn't have very good

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I had my worst year by far, and I was

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 2>just I just wasn't in it. Just kind of was like,

0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm dead. My kids were older, my kids

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>were starting to do a bunch of stuff, like you know,

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>getting at the age where they're traveling a lot for

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 2>their sports, and it was just time, right, And I

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>remember looking at my wife and I was like, you know,

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 2>it's time, and she's like, you sure is? You know,

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>if you all support you, if you want to go

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:42.879
<v Speaker 2>try it again, and I was like, no, it's time.

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>And I've never regretted my decision at all, and it

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>was time. Do I wish I could have played more?

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you'll you'll always say, man, I wish I

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 2>could step in the batter's box one more time, or

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could do this one more time, But

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you can't, and so you have to be okay and

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>you have to walk away with a conscious And I

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>was listen my last game. I actually knew when my

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>last game. The Braves came to me and said, hey,

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 2>it's middle September. We're gonna start you in this game

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and then we're probably either we're gonna put you on

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 2>the d L or release you. And I was like

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.359
<v Speaker 2>just put me on the DL we'll fake something. And

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>so they said, okay, we're gonna start you in this

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Saturday game, so make sure all your family and friends

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 2>are I'm like, okay, it's probably gonna be my last

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>game ninety nine percent, right, So my last game, my

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 2>last about came an extra innings and on it was

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>a There was a Dansby Swanson was a great player, right,

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 2>he was on second base, and he's a September call up.

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Brian Snicker the manager still the manager there, run around second,

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 2>no out, tie, extra innings, tie game, right, but Snicker

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 2>gives me the bunt. I'm like, you gotta be he

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 2>knows this is my last game, right, I'm I'm thinking

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>to myself, I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding or no, sorry,

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Swanson was on first, Like you gotta be fucking kidding me.

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>So I bunt and goes foul by like inches, and

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh. Right, So next pitch, wild pitch.

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So now Danzy's on second and I look over and

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's no way he's gonna have me again,

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 2>like he knows, and he gives me bunt. Whatever. It

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 2>gets to three two, and I'm like, all right, now,

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll have the bunt with two strikes to end up

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>get three two. I get a hit right when I

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>get this hit, like kind of left center ish, and

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Cessmades is in left field and Swanson doesn't score, and

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like running the first, like, dude, this is my

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Derek Jeter moment. I just my last game nobody because

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>nobody knew was my last game except for my teammates.

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else had any idea of the media and nobody,

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like running the first, like, yeah, man, I

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 2>just freaking walked him off in my last game. Derek

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Jeter blah blah blah, Swanson unscore. I'm like, son of

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>a bitch. Then Stick or Pinch runs for me at first,

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, if we don't score this winning

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 2>run with Noel, it's like I'm done and that sound's

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna end like so anyways, we end up scoring the

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 2>run and whatever, the celebration breaks out, you know, walk

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>off Land and Freddie Freeman dumps me with gatorade and

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I have my son out on the field with me

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's running around and the whole deal, and I

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>know Dave O'Brien, I'll never get tweeted out. At the time,

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 2>is still a beat writer for Lanta, and he says,

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I think Perzinski is retired right now, but nobody knows

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. And he had it and he had it

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and he had no And then after the game they

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 2>started asking me all these questions and I was like,

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, I don't know what's happening.

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, No, just a big win. We're happy we

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 2>beat the Mets and they're in the playoff race and yeah.

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And then the next day my ship was cleared out

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and I was gone. But it was like one of

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:22.280
<v Speaker 2>those just nobody knew except my teammates and my family,

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it was it was an emotional day,

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>but you know it was it was it was a

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 2>cool way to go out. And they were like, you know,

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 2>we can do we can announce this and we can

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 2>do a big thing. And I said, you know what,

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I was never like a big pro It was never

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>like a top hundred prospect. I came in kind of

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 2>with no fanfair. I just kind of want to go

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 2>out and only have my family know. And that was

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of how they let me go out. And it

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>was it was awesome.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's awesome. Speaking of your son, I know he

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>plays ball now, I know you've been coaching a little bit.

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Does he have aspirations?

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He does? He does? He you know what, he's first

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>of all, first and part, let me say this about

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 2>both my children. They're amazing kids, which I care about

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.280
<v Speaker 2>way more than the sports side of it. My daughter,

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>she's a senior. She's going to Mississippi State to play

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 2>volleyball next year.

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 2>So and then my son is a junior. He's kind

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 2>of going through the recruiting stuff right now. But listen,

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.720
<v Speaker 2>their first and foremost, they're good kids, which is way, way,

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 2>way better if they If my son wants to try

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to follow in my footsteps or try to make himself

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 2>a professional baseball player, then I'll support him. I just

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I always tell them and it's really really hard,

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's a hard life. And it is. Yes, the

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 2>rewards are fantastic, off the charts, but getting there and

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>what you have to go through is really hard. So

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 2>just know that you better enjoy the grind to get

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's true for for everything. I think

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to you got to really love something,

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>not focus on the end, but be willing to go

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>through what you what you have to to get there.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, no, I think I tell like I help

0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 2>coach my son's high school team. I'm like, you have

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to love the grind, and the grind is every day

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 2>showing up, putting in the work, lifting the weights, running

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the sprints, hitting off a tee. You have to love

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that part of it because anyone loves the hits with

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the fans and the admiration you get for that. But

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 2>when no one's looking, that's when you're, like, you find

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>out who really loves whatever you do. Like, I'm sure

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>for you. I mean, how many times have you read

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 2>in the mirror, like the lines right when no one's

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 2>paying attention, just to get try to get apart right

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, boom you get the

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 2>part and you're, oh, man, this is all worth it. Right,

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 2>But let's say that never happens. But you got to

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to keep going after it. Well,

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that's the way the sports are, right. It's like you

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 2>have to figure out a way to keep going until

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 2>that moment comes where everything comes together and it works out.

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't always work out.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think your son would need to self motivate

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>as you do? Do you see yourself and him that way?

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>No? No, oh god, my son is complete. He is

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 2>like superni kid is like the night. Like he's the

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 2>kids that when they have new kids at school, they're

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 2>always like, we're gonna put him with him because he's

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 2>nice and he'll be nice to him. Oh no, that

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 2>was not me. Trust me. I don't know him, and

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 2>we always My wife and I joked that, like my

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>both my kids have all of our personality traits, you know,

0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 2>divided up, and my son got like my daughter is

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 2>by far and I was called she's not mean at all,

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>but she definitely has the meaner traits to her than

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 2>my fight. Oh definitely. And my son is just very

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 2>He's very nice, very polite, very respectful. Not not that

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't, but he definitely doesn't have like the I'm

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna rip your fucking head off, you know,

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, he he has it more. It's quieter,

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not like out there in.

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:57.720
<v Speaker 1>The right now. You're working for Fox Sports full time.

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>You started doing postseason back in twenty eleven, when you

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>were still playing. What made you want to do that

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>while you're still playing?

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 2>It actually started, which is gonna sound funny, in two

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand so there was an old show on Fox called

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Best Damn Sports Show, Yeah, which with like Tom Arnold,

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:19.919
<v Speaker 2>right yeah, and Chris Rose and John Sally. So every

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 2>time I go to LA they call me and say, hey,

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 2>will you come on Best Damn Sports Show? And I

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, sure, it's fun. It's an hour, you know,

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 2>go down there and hang out with those guys. And

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 2>so we do that when I was still playing. And

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 2>then in two thousand and four they called me and say, hey,

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>will you do our postseason for us? And I was like,

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:34.959
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean. They're like, come here for three

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>weeks and run us from the lcs's all the way

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.359
<v Speaker 2>to the World Series. I'm like sure, So I did.

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I was there for three weeks, right. Well, then all

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the people that worked on that show are now like

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 2>all the heads of Fox. I mean, they have all

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 2>like up the ladder, and so through time, you know,

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I became obviously you know, I don't want to say

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 2>friends with them, but like we knew each other. And

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and six, they called me and say, hey,

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 2>will you help us from around in the postseason. So

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I did it thousand and six we had won the

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:02.919
<v Speaker 2>year before, and I do it a round with him.

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 2>And then in twenty eleven they called me and say, hey,

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 2>we want you to to do pre and post and

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 2>run through it. And I was like, yeah, this sounds awesome,

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Like this'ould be a great opportunity. You get to go

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to the World Series, you get to go to the

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Alcs and do all this fun stuff.

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 2>And it was Chris Rose who had known for you know, forever,

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and Eric Carros and and show up this You'll love

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>this your first day, never done this before. Live. We're

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>in Texas. Two hour raind lay. Okay, good two hour raindler.

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's Chris Rose eye and they take Eric Carros,

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 2>who was our third guy, and they put him in

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 2>the dugout in case a player walks out so we

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 2>can get an interview during the rain delay. So Chris

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Rose and I filled for two hours, just the first

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>day I've ever done this job. And I'm like, man,

0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 2>this is this is how it goes. Every time they

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>were laughing, joking like this isn't always like this, but

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just it was fun and I

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 2>liked it, and you know people, you know people, when

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 2>that light comes on, people can either talk or they

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>can't talk. And it was just like I was just

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>acting normal and they they liked it and I did it,

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but then they can Once I retired, they came in

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, do you want to do this full time?

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>And I was like sure, and listen. The first game

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I ever did was Yankees or Yankees Raised in Tampa

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 2>with Kenny Albert and it was awful. Dude. There's no training.

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there and they're like talk and You're like

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>about what, right, Like what do I talk about? I

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 2>mean not that I was like, not that I was nervous,

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 2>but three hours is a long time to fill, right,

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 2>even with the game in front of you. And because

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you do a game. It's not like

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 2>you practice, not like use a school to go to.

0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>It's literally like the light comes on, right talk Okay,

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean it's a learning it's still learning process.

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Your new show is so fun, so such a such

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of show than we've uh than really

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we've seen in baseball before. With Todd Frazier, Adam Jones,

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo Caine, brock Hold, Jason Kipnis, Eric Krat, Scott Braun

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Foul Territory? Are you having fun doing it?

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I am. The problem is, man, it's a lot of work.

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize these podcastings are so much work.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>See, I'm not big time like you, Brian. I can't

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.440
<v Speaker 2>show up and someone has these notes written down for me.

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And I just asked the questions right, Like I have

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to actually have to do research. I mean, we have

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>guests on every day. This is I do it Monday

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 2>to Thursday and listen. Foul Territories is awesome and I

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and the thing that we just talked about, like me

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 2>working for Fox, but this has helped me so much

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in my broadcast because I am talking to guys every

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>single day about baseball, so I know so much more.

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I always watched baseball, but I didn't dig into

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 2>like what was happening not only in the game I'm

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>covering that week, but around the league well every day.

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Now I have to know everything that's happening.

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to ask you. Yeah, are

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you watching games? Are you watching highlights? What are you

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing to prepare?

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean I have games on right now. I'm watching

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the afternoon games on the TV in the room i'm in.

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I watched the games and then after you kind of just,

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, luckily with it with social media, you can

1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 2>go on Twitter and Instagram and kind of see like

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the cool moments or they're not so cool, or people

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 2>screw up, and I kind of know, like, Okay, we're

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna hit on this, or but I have to watch

1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 2>games and I love baseball, So for me, it's not

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not really work, but it is work. My wife's say,

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 2>let's watch a show. I'm like, sorry, how they gotta work,

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:22.840
<v Speaker 2>gotta watch a games night. But it's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>cool thing. And I work with just such great people

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes to do things and get it all

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<v Speaker 2>together and are so open to talking about whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>the and it's unscripted. I mean, yes, there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>rundown that it lists what you're supposed to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, you can talk about it. We can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about anything and whatever we feel like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that day. We can go way off script and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this. Today we had Ken rosenthal On and Stanton

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<v Speaker 2>John Carlos Stanton hit his four hundred homer, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is John Carlos stan a Hall of Famer with Ken Rosenthal,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the best insider in the business, And he's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, if he gets the five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>is five hundred home runs? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. But if you think you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>as easy of a question as you think. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred, it's automatic, But then you look at some

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff you're like, it is he though, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's just fun to talk about this with

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<v Speaker 2>other players. And then we get the players on, and

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<v Speaker 2>we get players on because we played, we're able to

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<v Speaker 2>get them to open up and give us more than

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<v Speaker 2>the normal interview. And it's just been so fun getting

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<v Speaker 2>to know these people and letting fans see these people

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<v Speaker 2>as human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. I love it. It's so great. And and

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<v Speaker 1>going live as you do five days a week has

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<v Speaker 1>got to help you also, you know, with your broadcasting of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, I mean it's just practice. It's like with you

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<v Speaker 2>in acting, right, the more roles you get, the more

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<v Speaker 2>chance you get to be a character, the better you become.

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<v Speaker 1>It that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way. Are your Dodgers going to win the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was my last question for you. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you said you're a bravesman, but every time

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<v Speaker 2>I see you now you have a Dodger's hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Clayton Kershaw's ping pong tournament. You know you're over

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<v Speaker 2>there with Magic Johnson Huggin.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are your Braves or your Dodgers?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like just like you, I changed. Just like you,

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<v Speaker 1>I changed. You've outed me now on the program. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge Braves fan growing up and still was

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<v Speaker 1>a Braves fan through my entire time in Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 1>other places. As I was doing theater around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Los Angeles and I realized very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm never leaving Southern California. I became a season

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<v Speaker 1>ticket holder my first year in LA and remained that

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<v Speaker 1>for many many years. And so I just changed. I changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I love baseball and I wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go and watch baseball, and so for me, that made

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<v Speaker 1>me have to go all in. So now I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love the team this year. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>team chemistry that they have, But I'm more curious what

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<v Speaker 1>you think, do we have enough pitching to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, those two teams are probably the best two teams

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball. I mean that series they played last weekend

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<v Speaker 2>was sick. It was such a good game. Every game

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<v Speaker 2>was like great game. Right, the Stars came out to

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<v Speaker 2>play Mookie Pacuna, Freddy like, the Stars are out right

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<v Speaker 2>to play in those games. And I listen, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they that's the NLCS. I mean, I listen to Braves Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>You could not beat that NLCS. I mean, the travel sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But other than that, I mean the two teams, the

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<v Speaker 2>two best teams playing each other. I think the Braves

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<v Speaker 2>are better team one through twenty six. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it's man with the Dodgers. It's always like they

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out right. It's like they figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>way Mookie's gonna get a hit or Freddie's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a month, he's gonna they got J. D. Martinez coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, gosh, you never want to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>the that. You listen anytime Kershaw's on the mow Man,

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<v Speaker 2>you you've got a root hard for that guy, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter who he's pitching against So I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>ares the Areus thing is really that that that's a sting.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they get Bueller back, I mean, listen, Kershaw Bueller,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever else they can run. It's like the Dodgers always

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<v Speaker 2>have pitching and young guys, old guys. Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Lanceln my boy out there, you know, looking like a

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<v Speaker 2>cloud in that all white uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks great. He looks he.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like a big fat cloud out there pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks great. Bueller is he going to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>He's supposed to be back. I don't know what his

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<v Speaker 2>role is going to be, but he's supposed to be back. Yeah. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can have that guy as a weapon for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of innings every other game, that's a monster

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<v Speaker 2>to half end that bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you like out of the American League?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Houston always until someone beats him. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Baltimore as a team. I absolutely love Baltimore. This

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<v Speaker 2>the youth. If they had Bautista, if they hadn't lost him,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I think they they can walk through

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<v Speaker 2>the American League because the back in their bullpen him.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing him hurts because their starters aren't great, but their youth,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the way they play, the energy they play with.

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<v Speaker 2>I love watching them. And my big prediction is I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Twins are actually going to win a playoff

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<v Speaker 2>game for the first time since two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to win a playoff series?

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<v Speaker 2>I said a playoff game depends on who they play

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<v Speaker 2>in the series, but I mean, listen, if they got

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<v Speaker 2>to play Houston or if they got to play Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody wants to play those two teams, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the wild card three game series, that's stuff. Draw.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of my buddy Bruce Bochie's Texas Rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I love Bruce Bochie. He's one of my all

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<v Speaker 2>time favorite guys I've ever met. And but gosh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like they're out of gas and they're just no energy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no and listen, it's not because they're not trying.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want people to think, oh, they're not trying,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just like they've they've hit a wall and

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<v Speaker 2>there's how do you get it back? And Boach has

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<v Speaker 2>tried everything. Just what do you do? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes just isn't meant to be and they're ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of where they thought they were supposed to be too,

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget like they weren't supposed to be in this

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<v Speaker 2>situation and right as the free fall. It's just so

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<v Speaker 2>hard to watch because I love Mike Maddox, our pitching coach,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Bochie, A lot of their guys were there when

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<v Speaker 2>I played there, and it just feel for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it will be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Last quest question? Do you agree that there's no adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>to the pitching clock for the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>Ugh? I love it as a broadcaster because the games

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<v Speaker 2>are so much faster. I absolutely worry. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say I don't like it. I worry that the

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<v Speaker 2>big moments are are going to get ruined because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no drama build up because you don't have time. I

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<v Speaker 2>look back one year ago the Bryce Harper home run

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<v Speaker 2>right in the playoffs, forty five seconds between pitches, he

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<v Speaker 2>stepped out, he fixed his batting loves, he got to

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<v Speaker 2>breathe the pitcher gun, and it kind of gave the

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<v Speaker 2>crowd a chance to from like a low roar to

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<v Speaker 2>like deafening because it's like the drama's building as he's

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to get in the box. I worry we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to miss some of that. But listen, anything that can

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<v Speaker 2>get the games under three hours. And you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the West coast, right, so it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>The World Series starts at five out there, gets done

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<v Speaker 2>about eight, right. Well, the East Coast, they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>done in mid night one am. That's too late. Kids

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<v Speaker 2>can't stay up and watch that. So I'm all for

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<v Speaker 2>getting done. You know, they start at eight, they're maybe

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<v Speaker 2>done by ten forty five. Cool. I think parents can

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<v Speaker 2>talk themselves into letting kids stay up that late. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get into midnight one am. It's a little tougher. Poll.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in my opinion, this is solely my opinion. Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports is great. They do football really well. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>they do nothing better than how they have done postseason

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<v Speaker 1>baseball the last however many years. And you just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's like their directors are great. But I being

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<v Speaker 1>someone who sees what they're doing, it's like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the moments you're talking about, go to Bryce Harper, go

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<v Speaker 1>to a fan, go to a fan you know, covering

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes, Go to a fan with his hat on backwards,

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<v Speaker 1>go to a you know, and that and all of

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<v Speaker 1>those shots that's all of those shots are building drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's happening, and there's no time for that. Now

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<v Speaker 1>those shots aren't can't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's got to be quick. Yeah, it'll be quick,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be cool. You know what what I learned now

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<v Speaker 2>doing games right, because I do every games every week,

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<v Speaker 2>is the innings are short, right, so story's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be short or whatever your animal rise to be short.

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<v Speaker 2>And two, there's not a lot of time for replays,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's unless something like you know, when you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>a game, you have a headset on and there's people

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<v Speaker 2>in your ear saying like what we're gonna we're what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to show possibly, or you know, do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to replay? And you can talk back to the

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<v Speaker 2>producer and the director or you can say, hey, can

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<v Speaker 2>you give me a shot of this, or can you

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<v Speaker 2>give me this or whatever, But now they're like, replay

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<v Speaker 2>if we have time, and you're like, well what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh crap, it's already two outs and spend two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half minutes and the inning's over, So there's no

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<v Speaker 2>time for like saying, a guy hits a ball and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's hitting. The guy dies and catches it when

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<v Speaker 2>it was the second out. Boom, twenty seconds later, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the next pitch, they can't cut it and get back

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the third out, and you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have to show it next half. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>moment passes and you're like, well, we can't show it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that is the biggest difference for me at

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<v Speaker 2>watching games and broadcasting games now is how quick it

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<v Speaker 2>goes and how much less time you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't wait. It's always the best time of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Football starts, the Georgia Bulldogs beat up on Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>There's baseball, it's going to be amazing. The NFL is

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<v Speaker 1>getting going, always a pleasure. Foul Territory continues success with that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait to text you while you're broadcasting

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<v Speaker 1>important Dodgers games coming down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Fox has al this year, so you're safe. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to bother me. You don't have to bother

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<v Speaker 2>me like Seattle, Minnesota, you know, Baltimore, Tampa, something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel free to text me because it's always fun when

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<v Speaker 2>I hear from you and I'm waiting for the text,

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<v Speaker 2>like can you say like some random word on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever do that, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people do, though, can you say like super

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<v Speaker 2>calus fragilestic? Thanks AJ, Thanks Brian, hopefully I see you

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<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you, sin Aj. Thanks so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you're a busy man. I appreciate it

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<v Speaker 1>very much. And uh, I'm sorry. I hope you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and tell everyone that that you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually a nice guy. I hope that doesn't ruin your reputation.

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