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Speaker 2: Now, the only the only theater I went to is

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the kind of theater that I

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Aj Berzinski, and I fucking hate the Georgia Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: Howdy folks, and welcome to another episode of Off the Beat.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. This is your host, Brian Baumgartner. Now,

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Speaker 1: when people say that they've done something thousands of times,

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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen with over two thousand games played, all

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Speaker 1: as a catcher. By the way, the stat he says

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Speaker 1: So many hits and as a catcher. No less, He's

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Speaker 1: Slugger winner, and this is a very special one. He

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Speaker 1: but he's proud of that as well. Now, he may

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Speaker 1: he asked me, it speaks to his grit, his competitiveness,

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Speaker 1: and well just how seriously he takes the game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Playoff Baseball, there is nothing like it. You also can

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Speaker 1: Fox or on his incredible new show, foul Territory, which

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Speaker 1: your listening pleasure, everybody here, he is the most hated

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Speaker 1: man in the game. My pal aj Persinski, Burble and Squeak.

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Speaker 1: I love it burble and squeak, Ana, burble and squeak.

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Speaker 1: I cook it every mon lift over from the nine before.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Aja? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Brian? How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I mean I am just working my rear end off

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Speaker 2: and trying to keep up with you. That's about it.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you were on suicide watch this

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Speaker 2: I wiped it right from my memory banks already. See here,

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Speaker 2: here's the problem. I have like a Gator helmet, and

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Speaker 2: I have Gator duct tape, and I have all these

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Speaker 1: Well, you see my shirt.

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Speaker 2: I wore this, Thank god, I cannot see that.

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Speaker 1: I wore this for you today. Bulldogs started out okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so is Florida. They're going to be terrible, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope not. I mean I don't want

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Speaker 2: I mean, first play of the game two defenders run

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Speaker 1: That was a great start. God, that was so good.

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Speaker 1: That was so good. Listen. I'm rooting for you guys

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Speaker 2: Are you going to show your face this year at

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Speaker 1: I mean it kind of depends right there, worth be

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Speaker 2: Those are the best ones? Are you kidding me? I

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Speaker 2: I am not a Tennessee fan. They're my second favorite team.

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Speaker 1: You were recruited to go to Tennessee, as I understand,

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Speaker 1: AJ's early days. So you were born in New York,

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Speaker 1: Why did you go down there?

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Speaker 2: But i mean, yeah, people were like, oh, you were

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think. I don't think I want to

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Speaker 1: You know, my family is from Orlando too. My mom

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Speaker 2: Oh so she's like my wife. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know if my mom is like your wife,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly think that's it. I think she went

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Speaker 2: Because once I signed with Tennessee, like my heart was

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Speaker 1: Talk me through, how aware are you that you're going

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Speaker 1: it sucks to me. I you know, I played baseball

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Speaker 1: just love that? Did you love being in the middle

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Speaker 1: of it? What was it about catching that made you

434
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: stay there? Or were you just that good at it? Well?

435
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: I mean have you You've obviously met me, so you

436
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: know that I love like being in the middle of shit. Yeah, right,

437
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 2: So that's right when I was I think it was

438
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: about eight years old, right. Our catcher on our little

439
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 2: league team was hurt. They're like, hey, we need someone

440
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: to catch, and I literally was like, I'll do it,

441
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 2: I'll try it. And I fell in love with it

442
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: one because here's the thing, Like, as a catcher, you

443
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: are involved in every single play and you're the only

444
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: position where all the eyes are on you at all times. Right,

445
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,239
Speaker 2: every every fielder is looking at me. I'm like the rooster. Right,

446
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's go right plus plus back. Then you

447
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: got all the cool gear. I mean you got a

448
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: bigger bag because you had catcher's equipment. Right. Everyone else

449
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: had a bat and a glove. I had chest protect

450
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: in a mask. Right, I had to wear a cup.

451
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is cool. And so I just

452
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: it just continued because I was in the middle of

453
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: every play. Like before that, I kind of played shortstop

454
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 2: and you know, you get like two balls a game,

455
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: but screw that, man, this is every pitch. And then

456
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: you know, the physical part of it is that. Honestly,

457
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very lucky genetically. I guess I need

458
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: to thank my parents. But like, I have no problems

459
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 2: like knees hips, anything, back arm I literally have no

460
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 2: problems at all. And people are like, there's no way

461
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: you caught two thousand games in the big ones. I'm like,

462
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: I promise you, I have no issues at all. Now,

463
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: if you ask people that know me, they'll say mentally,

464
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm fucked up, but yeah, physically I can. I tell

465
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Speaker 2: people all the time, Like I could go catch a

466
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Speaker 2: game tomorrow. I mean I'd be sore, obviously, but I

467
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: could physically do it.

468
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: No.

469
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Speaker 2: Do I want to do it? No, because I know

470
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Speaker 2: what it takes to get there. But I mean I

471
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: physically could go tomorrow and be like I catch, I

472
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: catch nine innings tomorrow. I might not be able to

473
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Speaker 2: hit hit a baseball because I haven't done it so long,

474
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: but I could. I could catch it. Still.

475
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Speaker 1: You get drafted by the Twins, you decide to go.

476
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Speaker 1: You go to the Gulf Coast League Twins, the Elizabethton Twins,

477
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Speaker 1: Fort Wayne Wizards, Fort Myers Miracle, New Britain rock Cats,

478
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Speaker 1: and the Salt Lake Buzz. Tell me a little bit

479
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Speaker 1: about that time. Is it difficult for you or did

480
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Speaker 1: you love it?

481
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Speaker 2: The traveling down Listen, I loved it because I was,

482
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 2: like I said, I was like this baseball, baseball, baseball

483
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: all the time. Heck, my life is still like baseball.

484
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: It's like, jeez, even my kid plays baseball. My gosh,

485
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: can we play something else? But listen, when I signed,

486
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: I went to Golf Coast League, and I was, you

487
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: get these kids from all over the country, right, I

488
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: was from Florida, I went to Fort Myers. They're like

489
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: so hot, and I'm like, dude, this is great. I

490
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: played three games a day in this I'll play all

491
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: day long, right, and these other kids from up north

492
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: are dying. Then I went to Fort I went to

493
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Speaker 2: Fort Wayne to start the next year, which is my

494
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: first full season ninety five, and I was there for

495
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: about a month or and a half and I got mono. Right.

496
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: I got Mono in Appleton, Wisconsin. I'll never get it

497
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: hit me. We had like a thirteen hour bus ride

498
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Speaker 2: and I was like dying. I'm literally like I'm going

499
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Speaker 2: to die on this bus right here because I was

500
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: in so much pain from like, I guess your spleen

501
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: gets messed up. So I was just laying on this

502
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Speaker 2: bus and everyone's like, you know, quarantined away from me

503
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: because they're like, we don't want anyone else to get this, right.

504
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: So I ride thirteen hours on this bus, get back,

505
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Speaker 2: and then they're like, all right, well you have to

506
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Speaker 2: go home. So I went home for six weeks, right,

507
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: lost about forty five pounds because if you've ever had mono,

508
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: you can't do it. I couldn't walk to the end

509
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Speaker 2: of my driveway and it was a short driveway to

510
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Speaker 2: get the garbage cans out and wanting to go back

511
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Speaker 2: to sleep. So I come back after six weeks and

512
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Speaker 2: they send me to Elizabeth In which is in North Carolina, Tennessee.

513
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: It was a great old town and I show up

514
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget because Fort Wayne was it was

515
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 2: a ball and we had the brace nice brand new

516
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: stadium and all these fans. He show up at elizabeth

517
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: and it's like this wreck park, and I never forget.

518
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: I drove out with my mom and I said, welcome

519
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: to the show on the on the side of the thing.

520
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: And my mom looks at me and goes, man, what

521
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: the hell did you do to deserve this? And I

522
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: was like all right? And so I went and played.

523
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: And the first day back I had to catch a

524
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Speaker 2: doubleheader and I hadn't played in six weeks. And they're like,

525
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 2: are you okay, And I'm like yeah, and I'm like, well,

526
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: the other catcher's flights delayed, so you're the only catcher

527
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: we got, so we need you to catch, you know,

528
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: both ends of the double And I'm like, man, no,

529
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: probably whatever did it? Boom? And the trainer at the time,

530
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Speaker 2: a guy named Dave Prumer, who ended up being a

531
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Speaker 2: big league trainer for the Twins. He's like, we need

532
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: you to put weight back on, so how are you

533
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: going to do it? And I'm like, I don't know.

534
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: He's like, I want you to go and eat fast food.

535
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: And there's a dairy queen. There was a dairy queen

536
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: across street. He's like, you get dairy queen every day

537
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: and you eat ice cream until you put the weight

538
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: back on. So literally, I come into the ballpark with

539
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: dairy Queen, a peanut buster park fane. I was like

540
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: shoveling in the cow because I was I mean I

541
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: was so skinny.

542
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Right, Baseball unlike any other sport, right, I mean that life,

543
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: those years leading up to making in the big leagues,

544
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: that's you feel that, right, It's unique to anything else.

545
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: It's the best I tell people. Like people are like, oh,

546
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: the minor leagues are horrible. Yeah they were at the time,

547
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: but you look back on them and like, those guys

548
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: are like your guys. I mean those are still my friends.

549
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: I mean, big leag friends are big leag friends. But

550
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: once you make it and you kind of got some

551
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: money and you got some success, it changes you a

552
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: little bit. It haes. It just naturally does. Right. Everyone's like, oh,

553
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm the same, but you change, You just naturally do

554
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: because you have money and you kind of like, well

555
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I can afford better stuff, and I'm you know, like

556
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: this and that, right, But I mean think about this.

557
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: We're you know, you're twenty years old. Okay, I'm in

558
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: Fort Myers, twenty years old, making a thousand bucks a

559
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: month before taxes. Right, We're trying to find a place

560
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: to live. So we stuffed five of us into a

561
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: you know, three bedroom apart. One guy's on the couch,

562
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: one guy's on the air mattress, three of us get beds,

563
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: and you're trying to figure out, all right, well, how

564
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: we get seven dollars a day meal money on the road? Well,

565
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: what the hell can you? And you got to give

566
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: five of it to the clubhouse guys. You're really trying

567
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: to live off two dollars a day, which is impossible.

568
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: And so you just become tight with those guys because

569
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: you're all going through the same things. Everyone's struggling to

570
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: get by on a daily basis. How can we make

571
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: this more fun? And then again, now this is before

572
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: cell phones and all the stuff that happens. But I mean,

573
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, you could go to a bar and you

574
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: could have fun and get away with a little bit

575
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: more than you can now because of no cell phones.

576
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: But you know, we were like, man, where can we

577
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: find like cheap drinks and where can we find cheap food?

578
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: And we bought an electric grill from like Costco or

579
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: Sam's Club, right, and we would get Omaha steaks at

580
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, like we would all split it,

581
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: like the four of us, five of us, we'd split

582
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: it and we'd get a thing and that would last

583
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: us all year. We grill on this little electric grill.

584
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: We get like a canopies from publics and that was

585
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: like dinner. It was like a canopies or velveta shells

586
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: and cheese with tuna fish and a cantatoon am. Like

587
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: that was just dinner lunch. I mean, that was just

588
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: how you did it. And it was it wasn't even

589
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: like a It was great because we were all eating

590
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: the same crap and doing the same crap, and we're

591
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: all together and it was all right, we're going to

592
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: get through this somehow. And that's the bond you get

593
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues is as special, especially guys you

594
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: play with a bunch and kind of come up with

595
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: is where it's all about.

596
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard this, but Aj

597
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: and I we play in a few golf events together,

598
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: one on the corn Ferry Tour. I was once told

599
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: this that they intentionally pay the corn fairy players less

600
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: because they are trying to make them hungry to work

601
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: as hard as they can to move out of it.

602
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: That there is more money that they could siphon to

603
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: them based on the financial models, but they want to

604
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: keep them hungry. Do you think that there's a similarity

605
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: in minor leagues.

606
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: It's changed now. It used to be I think like that,

607
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: but now MLB bought the minor league some mainztlam baseball,

608
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: and now it's a different model. Now it's they treat

609
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: them better, they feed them better, they house them better.

610
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: I mean we were on our own for housing. I

611
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: mean I remember I got to play in the Hawaii

612
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: Hawaii for winter ball for three months, so I lived

613
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: in Honolulu two thousand dollars a month. Okay in Honolulu.

614
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: This is nineteen ninety seven, still twenty five years ago.

615
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: But if you've never been to Honolulu. Explain how you're

616
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: supposed to. That's before taxes now, so it's really only

617
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: one thousand bucks a month. You got to find a

618
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: place to live, you gotta find food, you got to everything. Car.

619
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: We had to rent a car, so two of five

620
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: of us lived in a two bedroom apartment in wan

621
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Waikiki Beach. There was the cheapest department we could find,

622
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: and we all rented one car. So we all had

623
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: to go to the same places together. And you're like, okay,

624
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: well we'll make it work. We had a Jack in

625
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: the box like four times a week.

626
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety eight, you finally make the big leagues

627
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: with the twins. What's it like walking on the field

628
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: for the first time.

629
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: So on our show my podcast that I do foul Territory.

630
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: The other day, we had Mark McGuire on Okay. In

631
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, a year with all the home run record,

632
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Chase went with him and Sosa. That's right, first day

633
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I get called up from Salt Lake City to Anaheim

634
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: or playing the Angels. Okay, So never forget this first

635
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: date and the days easy. It was nine eight ninety eight,

636
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: so it's super easy to remember. Was the day, Mark

637
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: McGuire hit sixty two. So we walk out on the

638
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: field for batting practice and we're on the West coast

639
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: there in Saint Louis. Everyone stops and on the big

640
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: screen on Anaheim and they have the they show the

641
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: is it bad? And he hits the home run. The

642
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: place goes crazy. I'm like, damn, this Big League is

643
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: kind of cool, like they do it every day or

644
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: what and it was and Mark McGuire's like, damn, you know,

645
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad I could be a party in

646
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: your memories. And I was like, yeah, I mean, something

647
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: you'll never forget as a human being, right, And then

648
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, And then I didn't play in that first game,

649
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: but I mean it was just you're taking everything in

650
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: and we were just staring at everything and watching everything

651
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: and trying to figure everything out. And I got to

652
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: actually get in the next day, which was my debut,

653
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: and they put me in like the fifth inning and

654
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: we were losing like seven nothing. They're like, yeah, don't

655
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: get go catch and I was like, oh shit. You know,

656
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: you're always a little bit nervous. I don't, but you're

657
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: just more excited because you're like, oh man, am, I

658
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: am I good for this? Right? I can I do

659
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: this on this look? And I run out there and

660
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: I remember I throw the ball to second base between

661
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: ings and I mean I launched it into center field.

662
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: And Ron Gardenhire was our third base coach and he

663
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: was the end up being our manager for the Twins.

664
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: After that, he just sicks at me and goes, nice

665
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: fucking throw and I was like, are you waiting? Saw that?

666
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: And it was kind of like a nice breaking moment.

667
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: And I'll and I remember my first at bat and

668
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: I walk up to the plate and we're in Anaheim

669
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: and I was facing Omar Oliveris and I'm just in

670
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: my head, I'm just like, I just don't want to

671
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: strike out. I don't care what I do. I'm just

672
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm not striking out my first I'm gonna proved to

673
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: myself that I can hit a major league picture. And

674
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: I hit a ground balled a second and I was

675
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: so happy. I just ran to first ran off and

676
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I can hit a major league picture.

677
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: And from I was just believed happy. And it's one

678
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: of the few times in life where you're making out

679
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: and you're you're super excited about it.

680
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Wow, with Tom Kelly still the manager.

681
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Then he was Yeah, okay, Crotchy the old bastard.

682
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm about to blow your mind here, Aja.

683
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I used to regularly watch you play baseball in Minnesota.

684
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I was based in Minnesota. I'm blowing your mind until

685
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I was there. I was doing

686
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: theater in town. Maybe you came to watch me if

687
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: you tried to get cultured once or t what now?

688
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: The only the only theater I went to is I

689
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: went to a pink concert once in a theater there.

690
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what theater it was.

691
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the kind of theater that I

692
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I was doing. Yep, I used to. I used to

693
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: go to Twins games, uh as a as a childhood

694
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: fan of the Atlanta Braves. I was not a Twins fan,

695
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: but I remember going.

696
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: I was not either, by the way, because I was

697
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: a Braves fan. I I mean I growing up in Florida.

698
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: I was a Braves fan. Like Dale Murphy was my guy, right,

699
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: oh right, that was me. So they beat him in

700
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: ninety one, Yeah, and I was. And then I get

701
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: drafted by him, like I fucking hate you guys, Like

702
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: all the teams like, but yeah, I mean I was

703
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: a Braves fan. I mean I listen, I you know,

704
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: I got to finish my career with the Braves, so

705
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: it was great. But my favorite, you know, we're talking

706
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: about Murphy. Murph by the way, if you haven't met him,

707
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: he's like the greatest human being in the world. So

708
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: the first time I'm in spring training, I have my

709
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: son with me, right, and the Braves were notorious for

710
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: like not having kids in the clubhouse, not having kids around.

711
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm just like, screw this. I'm thirty eight years old.

712
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm breaking all the rules. So I had my kid

713
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: out there with me, and uh, Murph walks up and

714
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: he's he introduced himself to me. He's like, Hi, I'm

715
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: Del Murphy. And I'm just like, uh, my son's like

716
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: what he looks at me. He's like eight years old

717
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: at the time. He's like, dad, what's wrong with you?

718
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, like this is my guy. Girl,

719
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what to say to him. He's like,

720
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: who is it, you know, because he doesn't know I'm

721
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: like Dale Murphy. He's like, who the hell is Dale Murphy? Right,

722
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: and he starts talking to him whatever, But like that

723
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: was you know, when you grow when you meet the

724
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 2: guy and he's even nicer in person than you've heard,

725
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: especially like a guy you grew up rooting for, it

726
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: makes it really special.

727
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love to hear that, and I love

728
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: to hear that there is a person that would do

729
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: that to you. I've never witnessed it, but I liked

730
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: that there's a person that would do it.

731
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: He was the one. He's probably the one person I've

732
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: ever met where I was like, Okay, this is like

733
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: my favorite person of all time.

734
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah again.

735
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: And I had heard all these stories about what a

736
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: nice guy he was, and then when you talk I mean,

737
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: when you talk to him, I mean, it blows your

738
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: mind with just what a nice fella he is and

739
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: just all the great career and he should be in

740
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And I'll die on that hill.

741
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it was three of the guys that

742
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: played with you, Glavin, Smoltz and Maddox understood.

743
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you're a fairweather. You didn't like

744
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 2: them when they sucked in the eighties, you liked him

745
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: in the nineties when they were good.

746
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh, Murphy was my guy. Early on. Murphy was my

747
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: guy early on. But yeah, those guys, I loved watching them.

748
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: You leave the Twin, you make the All Star Game

749
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, you

750
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: have another solid year, You're traded to the Giants. You happy?

751
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all. Listen, as an athlete, you

752
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: always think you're going to be part of one organization

753
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: team that drafts you, develops, you get you to the

754
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: big leagues. You're there. I was there for almost ten years.

755
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm gonna be this for life. And I

756
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: was doing well. It wasn't like I was sucking, right,

757
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: So you think, man, I'm gonna be here forever, and

758
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: then they trade me, And honestly, I was not happy

759
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: at all. And the only thing I was happy about

760
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: is that San Francisco at the time was very competitive

761
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: and Barry Bonds was the best player in the world.

762
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: So and I had known Barry from when I went

763
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: over to Japan with him in two thousand and two. Okay,

764
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: so I wasn't going in blind, but man I was.

765
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: It just kind of the first I can't really describe

766
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: it would I don't know how I can put this

767
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: in acting terms. It would be like, all right, you're

768
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: on the office and you're like, okay, I'm gonna be

769
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: in the office for the twenty years, okay. And then

770
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: they call you and like, oh, by the way, no

771
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: we treat You're on Seinfeld now right, And you're like, wait,

772
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: what this is weird? And you walk in the first

773
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: day and it's not that anything's different other than like

774
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: the uniform, but everything is different, like the clubhouse and

775
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: the where you go and what you do.

776
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: And your routine yeah yeah, and the people so.

777
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so, but it's still baseball. But you're like, gosh,

778
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: this is just weird. And plus, you know, I'm East

779
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: coast guy, Florida. You know, San Francisco's about as far

780
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: as way as you can get. My parents are like,

781
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: we can't watch the games. Then I'll start till ten o'clock.

782
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: And so, I mean, it's just little things like that.

783
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: And listen, San Francisco was a great city, great fans,

784
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: very passionate about the game. And listen, I got to

785
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: see the greatest baseball season I've ever seen two thousand

786
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: and four. If you haven't seen it, look up Barry

787
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Bond's numbers that year. I mean, he walked two hundred

788
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: he walked two hundred and seventy times or some I

789
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: mean his numbers. You're just and I got to stand

790
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: there and have a front row seat to it, so

791
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: I would never change anything about it. But yeah, when

792
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: you get traded the first time, it hurts and it's hard.

793
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: What about your move to the White Sox.

794
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: H Well, I was released by the Giants after the year.

795
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: I had a good year, but they didn't want to

796
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: pay me more money. So I go to the White

797
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: Sox and people always question, like why the White Sox. Well, listen,

798
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: I had other offers for more money, but when I

799
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: spoke to the White Sox, they were like, we've got

800
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: this team and we think it's going to be pretty special.

801
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: And I actually signed there for less than I could

802
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: have gotten from other places, and we ended up winning

803
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: the World Series that year. But listen, I grew up

804
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: a twin, right, I'm a Minnesota twin, and we hated

805
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: the White Sox because they talked trash and we used

806
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: to just beat them, and every time we beat them,

807
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: they talked more trash. We're like, dude, we've beat yells

808
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: asked for three years and now four years we all

809
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: shut up and they would just keep talking. And so

810
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: I get I signed over there, and I go to

811
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: socks Fest, which is like their fan fest. And I

812
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: pull up in a car from the airport and we

813
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: go to this hotel and it's all white Sox people.

814
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: My wife was with me, and I looked at her

815
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: and she looks at me, and he's like, this is

816
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: really weird for you, isn't it. I'm like, this is

817
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: so fucking strange right now. And I walk in and

818
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, it's because I mean not you know,

819
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: you brought up to take the teams in your division

820
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: and so but I was there and uh, listen, great

821
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: group of people there. It's obviously we won the World

822
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: Series eight year, so it just was a perfect fit.

823
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: What do you consider yourself now, Wight suck Well? Is

824
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: that because you won?

825
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean I played at the major league level

826
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: there the longest, and I think if you ask most

827
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: people they would say that there's some some Twins fans

828
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: and hang on to some of that. I listen, I

829
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: love the people. All the organizations I played in I

830
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: played in seven had have special people. But listen, you win,

831
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: you win with an organization and especially eighty eight years

832
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: and nothing. You know, you win with that organization. You

833
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: have special bonds with guys, and there's a lot of

834
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: people that I put that I were there when I played.

835
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: They're still there, so the bonds are still alive. Right,

836
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: Plus they pay me, so you know, I have to

837
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: say nice things about them.

838
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: But if they weren't, you would say the same thing.

839
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like that's kind of home, right, Chicago's home.

840
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: I have to go there this weekend. It's it's just

841
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: it's just home.

842
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about this. You the next year,

843
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: after two thousand and five, you win the whole thing.

844
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: You broke the American League record nine hundred and sixty

845
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: two errorless consecutive chances. You broke a record that was

846
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: fifty over fifty years old, Yogi bearra Is that the

847
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: stat that you're most proud of or is there something else? No?

848
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 2: I never played another position. That's the one that people

849
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: are like, you never played first base or outfield? Nope,

850
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: fuck off, I played one. I was a catch. But

851
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: I can tell you what. I still remember the play

852
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: where I fucked that streak up, and I'm still pissed

853
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: about it. Really, yeah, it was a bunt. It was

854
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: a butt down the first baseline. I threw it and

855
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: I shorted it, and I was pissed at an Ergo

856
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 2: for not picking it. So I'm still mad at you, Paul.

857
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: If you listen to this. It was just a terrible throw,

858
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: but it was like a perfect bunt. Jerry Harrison hit it,

859
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: bunted it down the first baseline and I was full

860
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: sprint and I just shorted it and Paul missed it

861
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 2: and they gave me an air and I was just like, well,

862
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: I've been like a whole year without making an air.

863
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: I just fucked out one.

864
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's just say people didn't like you playing

865
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: against you. Ozzie Geean, your White Sox manager, once said

866
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: this quote. I'm sure you've heard it. If you play

867
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: against him, you hate him. If you play with him,

868
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: you hate him a little less. You love that reputation.

869
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I love it. You know what it did for me

870
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: got me into professional wrestling and got me a lot

871
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: of opportunities off the field, And I think I think

872
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: people that that don't know me off the field, like

873
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: it's like this is why, like professional wrestling is the

874
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: perfect analogy for this. You have a wrestling character. That's

875
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: your character when the camera's on sort of acting. Right,

876
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: you're acting, you're keV from the office, right, but then

877
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: when you talk to you, you're not that guy in

878
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: real life.

879
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: Right.

880
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: It's a it's an act, right, So when I played.

881
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: You put on an act when you played I.

882
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: Don't want to know. I had to hate the other

883
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: team to play well, to play well, that was my thing,

884
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: and I had to just I had to boil myself

885
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: up and I'd fake, I'd make it up, I'd make

886
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: shit up. This guy said this when he might not

887
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: have said that, but in my mind he said that

888
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm coming and and that was just how I had

889
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: to do it. And it wasn't at listen, I don't

890
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: recommend that to anybody because it's really hard. That's when

891
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I knew I was done. I couldn't do it anymore.

892
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: I was like being nice to people, and I'm like,

893
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: what the hell's wrong with me? Like, I get me

894
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: nice on the I'm like saying I do people on

895
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: the field, like, no, this.

896
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't work, you're the game.

897
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: No. Yeah I never did that.

898
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: No, No, like Magic and Isaiah Thomas, but yeah the thing, yeah.

899
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, like it was just different. I couldn't I

900
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: couldn't get the hate I had to play with like

901
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: a hate And it sounds so dumb like to people

902
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: that haven't really played, like we all have a motivation

903
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: in our life, right, Well, my motivation was thinking the

904
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: other team hated me and I'm gonna show them, Like

905
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: That's why if somebody's like, you can't do this, I'm

906
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: like fuck you, like I'll kill myself trying to figure

907
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: this out. So that was how I played on the

908
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: daily baby, and that's why I also was able to

909
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: play every day because I could fake it, like I

910
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: mean when I'd mean fake it, like I could fake

911
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: the other team's mad at me or hate it. And

912
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: then so therefore it drove me to be like, all right,

913
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna go and I'm gonna fight every ounce of

914
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: me to try to win this game. And I think

915
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: that's the one thing if you ask, like, yes, you

916
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: ask Guzzie, because I've talked to Ozzie all the time still,

917
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: like he'll tell you like he loved I mean, I

918
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: think I'll say this, but he has interviews like he

919
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: loved having me on the team because I would show

920
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: up every day and I'd get in people's asses and

921
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: I'd be like, let's go. I was ready to go always,

922
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: And that's why Ozzie and I got along because he

923
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: played me every day and I wanted to play every

924
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: day and he was. There was never a question like

925
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: can you play? He knew if I showed up, I

926
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: was ready to go.

927
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something. I like truly like you.

928
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: I think you're a great guy. You really make me laugh.

929
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: As a player, I hated you.

930
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: That's funny.

931
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean I wanted to get that year with Bonds

932
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: that you're taught. I remember. I feel like I watched

933
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: every single pitch and I was like that mother like

934
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like I want. I wanted nothing but for

935
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you to fail.

936
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: So it worked.

937
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: Whatever you were doing, it worked.

938
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: So it became a running a running theme right of

939
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: of my teammates. If we went to a away game

940
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: and I didn't get booed, they're like, he's gonna suck.

941
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: But if they stood up like it booed the shit

942
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: out of me, they're like, oh, he's going deep today.

943
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: And I was like, thank you, like because it got

944
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: me going, Like I mean, after the two thousand five playoffs,

945
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: you go to Anna and they bow the shit out

946
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: of me. Right. Teammates are like, oh no, I Reguly.

947
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: We go to Wrigley, They're like ooh, and they're like, oh,

948
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: they have no idea what they just did. I'm like,

949
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean I live for it, like I live, live, live,

950
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: live for like the emotion. Because there's there's an old thing.

951
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't know who said it. You know, they don't

952
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: boo you for no reason. They bow you because you

953
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: broke their heart usually right, and they don't boot nobody's

954
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: so to me. In my mind, I was like it

955
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: was a badge of honor, like the louder, the better

956
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: bring it on.

957
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Is there ever anything that you did to instigate that

958
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: you regret.

959
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: There's always things you look back on and say, man,

960
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I wish it wouldn't have done that. You know, I've

961
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: talked a lot of shit. I mean not. It wasn't

962
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: a personal thing. It was more to myself, like I

963
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: was talking. It would come out loud, but it was

964
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: more to myself, like it was a way I motivated myself. No,

965
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: you didn't have time, like Pete. That's always what people say,

966
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: Oh you talked to people. I'm like, dude, there's no way.

967
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't have time. There's no time for that to

968
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: be like, oh, you know, like the major league scene,

969
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: or oh I have pictures of your mother or whatever

970
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Bull Durham, like you don't have time for that. Plus

971
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: guy has a bat and I'm standing there with no bat,

972
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: like we're gonna I'm not gonna say them to a

973
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: dude that can whack me with a bat. But I mean,

974
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: like I would pop up and I'd be like you motherfucker,

975
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: like you know, or I'd say a bad word and

976
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: throw my bat like that was a minute. The picture

977
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: that was more mad at me, but the only one

978
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: I wish there was a There was a play when

979
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I stepped on Justin Moreno's foot. It was

980
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: an accident. It turned into a big deal and I

981
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: played with Moren and and he thought, you know, I

982
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: was like, look, man, I'm sorry. I apologized him to

983
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: do it right there, and it turned into a big

984
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: to do and I was That's the one thing. I mean,

985
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: I did a lot of others. There was one time

986
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: running off the field in San Francisco, fans were booing

987
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: the shit out. I mean, I was a giant at

988
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: the time. Two thousand and four and I kind of

989
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: gave the old scratch my face bird to a guy

990
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: and they caught it on camera and I got called

991
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: into the office the next day and by the GM

992
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: and he's like, did you do this? And I was

993
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: like what, I'm scratching my face and he's like, really,

994
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: like I'm smarter than that, and I was like, eh, well,

995
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: I like, you know, it's just all dumb shit do

996
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: you do over the course of my career and us,

997
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: So there's not a lot that I would change. I mean, listen,

998
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: when you get to a point when you have kids, right,

999
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: I have an eighteen year old and a sixteen year old.

1000
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: They know how the internet, so everything is out there.

1001
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: So there's things where like Dad, did you really do this?

1002
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: Or did you do this? And yeah, I know, you know,

1003
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: it's not your proudest moment when your kids see when

1004
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of it, you know, say whatever

1005
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: you want about me. But when my kids have to

1006
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: read it, that's when it kind of hits home.

1007
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Right. My favorite was, which I had forgotten about, but

1008
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: looking through the research on you that you successfully. By

1009
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: the way, had a campaign in two thousand and six

1010
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: to make the All Star Game, and the slogan was

1011
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: punch aj because you used to have to punch the

1012
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: ballots and people wanting to punch you. That makes me laugh.

1013
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: But the WW, did you ever consider doing more with that?

1014
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: I did as much as I could. I mean, listen,

1015
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: I I've been in there. I did. WW was kind

1016
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: of like the Holy The only thing I got to

1017
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: do with them is I got to do a couple

1018
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: like standings. And then I got to do a thing

1019
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: with Bob Barker, God Rest his soul, where they called

1020
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: me out of the crowd and I got to run

1021
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: around and do some dumb shit with him, which is great.

1022
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: I got to get in the ring, like I mean, listen,

1023
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: I hit dudes with chairs, I hit dudes with home plates.

1024
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: I've hit dudes with all kinds of stuff, right, And

1025
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: anyone that sells me wrestling's fake is listen. I know

1026
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: how hard I hit those sons of bitches with chairs

1027
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: and stuff. It ain't fake like I'm hitting them now.

1028
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: The endings might be scripted, well, listen, the action and

1029
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: the moves and all the stuff they do that's junk

1030
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: is real, man, and I respect the hell out of

1031
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: those dudes.

1032
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: The end of your career, you go to the Rangers,

1033
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: you go to the other Socks, the Red Sox, Cardinals,

1034
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: you finish with the Braves, and in twenty fifteen you

1035
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: reach over two thousand games played. You mentioned it before,

1036
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: You're clearly proud of that, and had your tooth thousandth

1037
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: career hit, something only thirteen other catchers in the history

1038
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: of the game is done. By the way, are you

1039
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: aware of that milestone in the moment? Are you? Are you?

1040
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Are you gunning for it?

1041
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

1042
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

1043
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: So in twenty six twenty fifteen, I finished like fifteen

1044
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: hits short or something, and then so I'm like, well,

1045
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play one more year to twenty sixteen. So

1046
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: I come out and I get off to an awful start, right,

1047
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: and I get to like thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine,

1048
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: and we have like a two games left in the

1049
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: home stand. My family all flew in and they all

1050
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: wanted to be there, and of course I go like,

1051
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: oh for eight with like seven strikeouts because I am

1052
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: trying my ass off right right to get this hit

1053
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: in front of my family. And then we ended up

1054
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: going to Boston and I got it the next day.

1055
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: But it was like, I was kind of anti climactic

1056
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: because I did it, and I didn't do it in Atlanta.

1057
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: I did it in Boston. They didn't really give a

1058
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: shit because I just played there and they you know,

1059
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: they didn't even like put it on the scoreboard or anything.

1060
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: Would have been cool if they could have at least

1061
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: have been like congratulations, you know, but they didn't do anything. Well,

1062
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: my teammates obviously new but yeah, I was chasing it then.

1063
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: And the one that I'm I'm probably more proud of

1064
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: is that I have four hundred doubles, which is only

1065
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: four catchers I think have ever done at the time.

1066
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: And I did that actually at the White Sox and

1067
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: that was so that was kind of cool my last

1068
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: year to do that at the against the White Sox

1069
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: in Chicago. That one was kind of the thing that

1070
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, the two thousand hits is great,

1071
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: but the four hundred doubles, And like I said at

1072
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: the time, I think I was the fourth catcher to

1073
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: ever do it.

1074
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: That's awesome. You retire in twenty seventeen, What made you

1075
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: know it was time to go?

1076
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: I would we talked to me. I couldn't fake it.

1077
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: Anymore.

1078
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: I couldn't fake the I couldn't fake the hate. And

1079
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: my kids, Listen, my kids were old when I retired.

1080
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean I was thirty nine going on forty, right,

1081
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: so I was forty years old to turn forty in

1082
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: the offseason, and I knew I had a I was

1083
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: fortunate enough. I have a still worked for Fox and

1084
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: calling games, and they're kind of were like, hey, if

1085
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: you retire, we'll give you a job. And I was like, Okay,

1086
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: it means more time at home, but it also means

1087
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: more time at home, right, Right, it's a hard thing.

1088
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: And you know, as in your profession of acting, like

1089
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: if somebody came to you with the wife or somebody

1090
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: was like, I need you to retire, and you in

1091
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: your heart you didn't believe that it was time, you

1092
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: would probably regret them for the rest of your life. Right.

1093
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: My wife would always say, I'm never going to tell

1094
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: you when it's time, because if I do that, you'll

1095
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: regret me for the rest of my life, because you

1096
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 2: would always think, man, you know, I should have kept playing,

1097
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: or I should have done this. And after twenty sixteen,

1098
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: it was just a hard I didn't have very good

1099
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: I had my worst year by far, and I was

1100
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: just I just wasn't in it. Just kind of was like,

1101
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: all right, I'm dead. My kids were older, my kids

1102
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: were starting to do a bunch of stuff, like you know,

1103
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: getting at the age where they're traveling a lot for

1104
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: their sports, and it was just time, right, And I

1105
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: remember looking at my wife and I was like, you know,

1106
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: it's time, and she's like, you sure is? You know,

1107
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: if you all support you, if you want to go

1108
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: try it again, and I was like, no, it's time.

1109
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: And I've never regretted my decision at all, and it

1110
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: was time. Do I wish I could have played more?

1111
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: Of course, you'll you'll always say, man, I wish I

1112
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: could step in the batter's box one more time, or

1113
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: I wish I could do this one more time, But

1114
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: you can't, and so you have to be okay and

1115
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: you have to walk away with a conscious And I

1116
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: was listen my last game. I actually knew when my

1117
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: last game. The Braves came to me and said, hey,

1118
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: it's middle September. We're gonna start you in this game

1119
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: and then we're probably either we're gonna put you on

1120
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: the d L or release you. And I was like

1121
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: just put me on the DL we'll fake something. And

1122
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: so they said, okay, we're gonna start you in this

1123
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: Saturday game, so make sure all your family and friends

1124
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: are I'm like, okay, it's probably gonna be my last

1125
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: game ninety nine percent, right, So my last game, my

1126
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: last about came an extra innings and on it was

1127
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: a There was a Dansby Swanson was a great player, right,

1128
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: he was on second base, and he's a September call up.

1129
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: Brian Snicker the manager still the manager there, run around second,

1130
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: no out, tie, extra innings, tie game, right, but Snicker

1131
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: gives me the bunt. I'm like, you gotta be he

1132
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: knows this is my last game, right, I'm I'm thinking

1133
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: to myself, I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding or no, sorry,

1134
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Swanson was on first, Like you gotta be fucking kidding me.

1135
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: So I bunt and goes foul by like inches, and

1136
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh. Right, So next pitch, wild pitch.

1137
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: So now Danzy's on second and I look over and

1138
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way he's gonna have me again,

1139
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: like he knows, and he gives me bunt. Whatever. It

1140
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: gets to three two, and I'm like, all right, now,

1141
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: I'll have the bunt with two strikes to end up

1142
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: get three two. I get a hit right when I

1143
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: get this hit, like kind of left center ish, and

1144
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: Cessmades is in left field and Swanson doesn't score, and

1145
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm like running the first, like, dude, this is my

1146
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter moment. I just my last game nobody because

1147
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: nobody knew was my last game except for my teammates.

1148
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: Nobody else had any idea of the media and nobody,

1149
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like running the first, like, yeah, man, I

1150
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: just freaking walked him off in my last game. Derek

1151
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: Jeter blah blah blah, Swanson unscore. I'm like, son of

1152
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: a bitch. Then Stick or Pinch runs for me at first,

1153
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, if we don't score this winning

1154
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: run with Noel, it's like I'm done and that sound's

1155
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: gonna end like so anyways, we end up scoring the

1156
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: run and whatever, the celebration breaks out, you know, walk

1157
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: off Land and Freddie Freeman dumps me with gatorade and

1158
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: I have my son out on the field with me

1159
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: and he's running around and the whole deal, and I

1160
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: know Dave O'Brien, I'll never get tweeted out. At the time,

1161
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: is still a beat writer for Lanta, and he says,

1162
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: I think Perzinski is retired right now, but nobody knows

1163
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: about it. And he had it and he had it

1164
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: and he had no And then after the game they

1165
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: started asking me all these questions and I was like,

1166
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know what's happening.

1167
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: You know, No, just a big win. We're happy we

1168
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: beat the Mets and they're in the playoff race and yeah.

1169
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: And then the next day my ship was cleared out

1170
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: and I was gone. But it was like one of

1171
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: those just nobody knew except my teammates and my family,

1172
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: and you know, it was it was an emotional day,

1173
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: but you know it was it was it was a

1174
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: cool way to go out. And they were like, you know,

1175
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: we can do we can announce this and we can

1176
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: do a big thing. And I said, you know what,

1177
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: I was never like a big pro It was never

1178
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: like a top hundred prospect. I came in kind of

1179
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: with no fanfair. I just kind of want to go

1180
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: out and only have my family know. And that was

1181
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: kind of how they let me go out. And it

1182
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: was it was awesome.

1183
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. Speaking of your son, I know he

1184
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: plays ball now, I know you've been coaching a little bit.

1185
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: Does he have aspirations?

1186
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: He does? He does? He you know what, he's first

1187
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: of all, first and part, let me say this about

1188
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: both my children. They're amazing kids, which I care about

1189
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: way more than the sports side of it. My daughter,

1190
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: she's a senior. She's going to Mississippi State to play

1191
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: volleyball next year.

1192
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: Awesome.

1193
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: So and then my son is a junior. He's kind

1194
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: of going through the recruiting stuff right now. But listen,

1195
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: their first and foremost, they're good kids, which is way, way,

1196
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: way better if they If my son wants to try

1197
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: to follow in my footsteps or try to make himself

1198
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: a professional baseball player, then I'll support him. I just

1199
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, I always tell them and it's really really hard,

1200
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: and it's a hard life. And it is. Yes, the

1201
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: rewards are fantastic, off the charts, but getting there and

1202
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: what you have to go through is really hard. So

1203
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: just know that you better enjoy the grind to get

1204
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

1205
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's true for for everything. I think

1206
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, you got to you got to really love something,

1207
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: not focus on the end, but be willing to go

1208
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: through what you what you have to to get there.

1209
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Right, Well, no, I think I tell like I help

1210
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: coach my son's high school team. I'm like, you have

1211
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: to love the grind, and the grind is every day

1212
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: showing up, putting in the work, lifting the weights, running

1213
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: the sprints, hitting off a tee. You have to love

1214
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: that part of it because anyone loves the hits with

1215
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: the fans and the admiration you get for that. But

1216
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: when no one's looking, that's when you're, like, you find

1217
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: out who really loves whatever you do. Like, I'm sure

1218
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: for you. I mean, how many times have you read

1219
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: in the mirror, like the lines right when no one's

1220
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: paying attention, just to get try to get apart right

1221
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, boom you get the

1222
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: part and you're, oh, man, this is all worth it. Right,

1223
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: But let's say that never happens. But you got to

1224
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: figure out a way to keep going after it. Well,

1225
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: that's the way the sports are, right. It's like you

1226
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: have to figure out a way to keep going until

1227
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: that moment comes where everything comes together and it works out.

1228
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't always work out.

1229
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Do you think your son would need to self motivate

1230
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: as you do? Do you see yourself and him that way?

1231
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: No? No, oh god, my son is complete. He is

1232
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: like superni kid is like the night. Like he's the

1233
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: kids that when they have new kids at school, they're

1234
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: always like, we're gonna put him with him because he's

1235
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: nice and he'll be nice to him. Oh no, that

1236
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: was not me. Trust me. I don't know him, and

1237
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: we always My wife and I joked that, like my

1238
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: both my kids have all of our personality traits, you know,

1239
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: divided up, and my son got like my daughter is

1240
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: by far and I was called she's not mean at all,

1241
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: but she definitely has the meaner traits to her than

1242
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: my fight. Oh definitely. And my son is just very

1243
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: He's very nice, very polite, very respectful. Not not that

1244
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't, but he definitely doesn't have like the I'm

1245
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna rip your fucking head off, you know,

1246
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: like I mean, he he has it more. It's quieter,

1247
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: it's not like out there in.

1248
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: The right now. You're working for Fox Sports full time.

1249
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: You started doing postseason back in twenty eleven, when you

1250
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: were still playing. What made you want to do that

1251
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: while you're still playing?

1252
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: It actually started, which is gonna sound funny, in two

1253
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: thousand so there was an old show on Fox called

1254
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: Best Damn Sports Show, Yeah, which with like Tom Arnold,

1255
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 2: right yeah, and Chris Rose and John Sally. So every

1256
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: time I go to LA they call me and say, hey,

1257
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: will you come on Best Damn Sports Show? And I

1258
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: was like, sure, it's fun. It's an hour, you know,

1259
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: go down there and hang out with those guys. And

1260
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: so we do that when I was still playing. And

1261
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: then in two thousand and four they called me and say, hey,

1262
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: will you do our postseason for us? And I was like,

1263
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 2: what do you mean. They're like, come here for three

1264
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: weeks and run us from the lcs's all the way

1265
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: to the World Series. I'm like sure, So I did.

1266
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: I was there for three weeks, right. Well, then all

1267
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: the people that worked on that show are now like

1268
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: all the heads of Fox. I mean, they have all

1269
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: like up the ladder, and so through time, you know,

1270
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: I became obviously you know, I don't want to say

1271
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: friends with them, but like we knew each other. And

1272
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, they called me and say, hey,

1273
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: will you help us from around in the postseason. So

1274
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: I did it thousand and six we had won the

1275
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: year before, and I do it a round with him.

1276
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: And then in twenty eleven they called me and say, hey,

1277
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: we want you to to do pre and post and

1278
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: run through it. And I was like, yeah, this sounds awesome,

1279
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: Like this'ould be a great opportunity. You get to go

1280
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: to the World Series, you get to go to the

1281
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: you know, the Alcs and do all this fun stuff.

1282
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: And it was Chris Rose who had known for you know, forever,

1283
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: and Eric Carros and and show up this You'll love

1284
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: this your first day, never done this before. Live. We're

1285
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: in Texas. Two hour raind lay. Okay, good two hour raindler.

1286
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: So it's Chris Rose eye and they take Eric Carros,

1287
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: who was our third guy, and they put him in

1288
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: the dugout in case a player walks out so we

1289
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: can get an interview during the rain delay. So Chris

1290
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: Rose and I filled for two hours, just the first

1291
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: day I've ever done this job. And I'm like, man,

1292
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: this is this is how it goes. Every time they

1293
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: were laughing, joking like this isn't always like this, but

1294
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, it was just it was fun and I

1295
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: liked it, and you know people, you know people, when

1296
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: that light comes on, people can either talk or they

1297
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: can't talk. And it was just like I was just

1298
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: acting normal and they they liked it and I did it,

1299
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: but then they can Once I retired, they came in

1300
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: and said, hey, do you want to do this full time?

1301
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: And I was like sure, and listen. The first game

1302
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: I ever did was Yankees or Yankees Raised in Tampa

1303
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: with Kenny Albert and it was awful. Dude. There's no training.

1304
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and they're like talk and You're like

1305
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: about what, right, Like what do I talk about? I

1306
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: mean not that I was like, not that I was nervous,

1307
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: but three hours is a long time to fill, right,

1308
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: even with the game in front of you. And because

1309
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: it's not like you do a game. It's not like

1310
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: you practice, not like use a school to go to.

1311
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: It's literally like the light comes on, right talk Okay,

1312
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it's a learning it's still learning process.

1313
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: Your new show is so fun, so such a such

1314
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: a different kind of show than we've uh than really

1315
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: we've seen in baseball before. With Todd Frazier, Adam Jones,

1316
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Caine, brock Hold, Jason Kipnis, Eric Krat, Scott Braun

1317
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: Foul Territory? Are you having fun doing it?

1318
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: I am. The problem is, man, it's a lot of work.

1319
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: I didn't realize these podcastings are so much work.

1320
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1321
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: See, I'm not big time like you, Brian. I can't

1322
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: show up and someone has these notes written down for me.

1323
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: And I just asked the questions right, Like I have

1324
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: to actually have to do research. I mean, we have

1325
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: guests on every day. This is I do it Monday

1326
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: to Thursday and listen. Foul Territories is awesome and I

1327
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: and the thing that we just talked about, like me

1328
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: working for Fox, but this has helped me so much

1329
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: in my broadcast because I am talking to guys every

1330
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: single day about baseball, so I know so much more.

1331
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: Like I always watched baseball, but I didn't dig into

1332
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: like what was happening not only in the game I'm

1333
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: covering that week, but around the league well every day.

1334
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: Now I have to know everything that's happening.

1335
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you. Yeah, are

1336
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: you watching games? Are you watching highlights? What are you

1337
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: What are you doing to prepare?

1338
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean I have games on right now. I'm watching

1339
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: the afternoon games on the TV in the room i'm in.

1340
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: I watched the games and then after you kind of just,

1341
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, luckily with it with social media, you can

1342
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: go on Twitter and Instagram and kind of see like

1343
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: the cool moments or they're not so cool, or people

1344
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: screw up, and I kind of know, like, Okay, we're

1345
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: gonna hit on this, or but I have to watch

1346
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: games and I love baseball, So for me, it's not

1347
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: it's not really work, but it is work. My wife's say,

1348
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: let's watch a show. I'm like, sorry, how they gotta work,

1349
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: gotta watch a games night. But it's just such a

1350
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: cool thing. And I work with just such great people

1351
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: behind the scenes to do things and get it all

1352
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: together and are so open to talking about whatever and

1353
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: the and it's unscripted. I mean, yes, there's like a

1354
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: rundown that it lists what you're supposed to talk about,

1355
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: but you know, you can talk about it. We can

1356
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: talk about anything and whatever we feel like talking about

1357
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: that day. We can go way off script and talk

1358
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: about this. Today we had Ken rosenthal On and Stanton

1359
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: John Carlos Stanton hit his four hundred homer, and I'm like,

1360
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: is John Carlos stan a Hall of Famer with Ken Rosenthal,

1361
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: who's the best insider in the business, And he's I

1362
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, if he gets the five hundred

1363
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: is five hundred home runs? Is?

1364
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: You know?

1365
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: It's not. But if you think you know, it's not

1366
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: as easy of a question as you think. You're like, oh,

1367
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: five hundred, it's automatic, But then you look at some

1368
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: other stuff you're like, it is he though, So I

1369
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: don't know. It's just fun to talk about this with

1370
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: other players. And then we get the players on, and

1371
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: we get players on because we played, we're able to

1372
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: get them to open up and give us more than

1373
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: the normal interview. And it's just been so fun getting

1374
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: to know these people and letting fans see these people

1375
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: as human beings.

1376
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: It's perfect. I love it. It's so great. And and

1377
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: going live as you do five days a week has

1378
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: got to help you also, you know, with your broadcasting of.

1379
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: Course, I mean it's just practice. It's like with you

1380
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: in acting, right, the more roles you get, the more

1381
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: chance you get to be a character, the better you become.

1382
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: It that's right.

1383
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: By the way. Are your Dodgers going to win the

1384
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: World Series this year?

1385
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: Well that was my last question for you. What do

1386
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: you think?

1387
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: Well, because you said you're a bravesman, but every time

1388
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I see you now you have a Dodger's hat on.

1389
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: You're Clayton Kershaw's ping pong tournament. You know you're over

1390
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: there with Magic Johnson Huggin.

1391
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1392
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean, are your Braves or your Dodgers?

1393
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: Just like just like you, I changed. Just like you,

1394
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: I changed. You've outed me now on the program. I

1395
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: was a huge Braves fan growing up and still was

1396
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: a Braves fan through my entire time in Minnesota and

1397
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: other places. As I was doing theater around the country,

1398
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: I moved to Los Angeles and I realized very quickly

1399
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: that I'm never leaving Southern California. I became a season

1400
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: ticket holder my first year in LA and remained that

1401
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: for many many years. And so I just changed. I changed.

1402
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: I love baseball and I wanted to be able to

1403
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: go and watch baseball, and so for me, that made

1404
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: me have to go all in. So now I'm all in.

1405
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: I really love the team this year. I love the

1406
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 1: team chemistry that they have, But I'm more curious what

1407
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: you think, do we have enough pitching to keep it going.

1408
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: Listen, those two teams are probably the best two teams

1409
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: in baseball. I mean that series they played last weekend

1410
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: was sick. It was such a good game. Every game

1411
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: was like great game. Right, the Stars came out to

1412
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: play Mookie Pacuna, Freddy like, the Stars are out right

1413
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 2: to play in those games. And I listen, I hope

1414
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: they that's the NLCS. I mean, I listen to Braves Dodgers.

1415
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 2: You could not beat that NLCS. I mean, the travel sucks.

1416
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean the two teams, the

1417
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: two best teams playing each other. I think the Braves

1418
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: are better team one through twenty six. But I think

1419
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: that it's man with the Dodgers. It's always like they

1420
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: figure it out right. It's like they figure out the

1421
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: way Mookie's gonna get a hit or Freddie's gonna get

1422
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: a month, he's gonna they got J. D. Martinez coming back.

1423
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: It's like, gosh, you never want to get rid of

1424
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: the that. You listen anytime Kershaw's on the mow Man,

1425
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: you you've got a root hard for that guy, no

1426
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 2: matter who he's pitching against So I think I think

1427
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: ares the Areus thing is really that that that's a sting.

1428
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: But if they get Bueller back, I mean, listen, Kershaw Bueller,

1429
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: whoever else they can run. It's like the Dodgers always

1430
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: have pitching and young guys, old guys. Whatever it is.

1431
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: Lanceln my boy out there, you know, looking like a

1432
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: cloud in that all white uniform.

1433
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: He looks great. He looks he.

1434
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: Looks like a big fat cloud out there pitching.

1435
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: He looks great. Bueller is he going to be back.

1436
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be back. I don't know what his

1437
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: role is going to be, but he's supposed to be back. Yeah. Listen,

1438
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: if you can have that guy as a weapon for

1439
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: a couple of innings every other game, that's a monster

1440
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: to half end that bullpen.

1441
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: Who do you like out of the American League?

1442
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Houston always until someone beats him. I

1443
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: love Baltimore as a team. I absolutely love Baltimore. This

1444
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: the youth. If they had Bautista, if they hadn't lost him,

1445
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: I would say I think they they can walk through

1446
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: the American League because the back in their bullpen him.

1447
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: Losing him hurts because their starters aren't great, but their youth,

1448
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: they're the way they play, the energy they play with.

1449
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: I love watching them. And my big prediction is I

1450
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: think the Twins are actually going to win a playoff

1451
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: game for the first time since two thousand and four.

1452
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: Are they going to win a playoff series?

1453
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: I said a playoff game depends on who they play

1454
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: in the series, but I mean, listen, if they got

1455
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: to play Houston or if they got to play Seattle,

1456
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody wants to play those two teams, and

1457
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: especially in the wild card three game series, that's stuff. Draw.

1458
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: What do you think of my buddy Bruce Bochie's Texas Rangers.

1459
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Listen, I love Bruce Bochie. He's one of my all

1460
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: time favorite guys I've ever met. And but gosh, it's

1461
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: like they're out of gas and they're just no energy.

1462
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: There's no and listen, it's not because they're not trying.

1463
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: And I don't want people to think, oh, they're not trying,

1464
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: but it's just like they've they've hit a wall and

1465
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: there's how do you get it back? And Boach has

1466
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: tried everything. Just what do you do? I don't know,

1467
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: is sometimes just isn't meant to be and they're ahead

1468
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: of where they thought they were supposed to be too,

1469
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: don't forget like they weren't supposed to be in this

1470
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: situation and right as the free fall. It's just so

1471
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: hard to watch because I love Mike Maddox, our pitching coach,

1472
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: Bruce Bochie, A lot of their guys were there when

1473
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: I played there, and it just feel for him.

1474
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will be great.

1475
01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1476
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: Last quest question? Do you agree that there's no adjustment

1477
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: to the pitching clock for the playoffs?

1478
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: Ugh? I love it as a broadcaster because the games

1479
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: are so much faster. I absolutely worry. I don't want

1480
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: to say I don't like it. I worry that the

1481
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: big moments are are going to get ruined because there's

1482
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: no drama build up because you don't have time. I

1483
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: look back one year ago the Bryce Harper home run

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Speaker 2: right in the playoffs, forty five seconds between pitches, he

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Speaker 2: stepped out, he fixed his batting loves, he got to

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Speaker 2: breathe the pitcher gun, and it kind of gave the

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Speaker 2: crowd a chance to from like a low roar to

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Speaker 2: like deafening because it's like the drama's building as he's

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Speaker 2: waiting to get in the box. I worry we're going

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Speaker 2: to miss some of that. But listen, anything that can

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Speaker 2: get the games under three hours. And you know you're

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Speaker 2: on the West coast, right, so it's a little different.

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Speaker 2: The World Series starts at five out there, gets done

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Speaker 2: about eight, right. Well, the East Coast, they were getting

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Speaker 2: done in mid night one am. That's too late. Kids

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Speaker 2: can't stay up and watch that. So I'm all for

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Speaker 2: getting done. You know, they start at eight, they're maybe

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Speaker 2: done by ten forty five. Cool. I think parents can

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Speaker 2: talk themselves into letting kids stay up that late. You know,

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Speaker 2: you get into midnight one am. It's a little tougher. Poll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in my opinion, this is solely my opinion. Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports is great. They do football really well. To me,

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Speaker 1: they do nothing better than how they have done postseason

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Speaker 1: baseball the last however many years. And you just I

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01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: mean it's like their directors are great. But I being

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Speaker 1: someone who sees what they're doing, it's like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the moments you're talking about, go to Bryce Harper, go

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Speaker 1: to a fan, go to a fan you know, covering

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Speaker 1: her eyes, Go to a fan with his hat on backwards,

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Speaker 1: go to a you know, and that and all of

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Speaker 1: those shots that's all of those shots are building drama.

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Speaker 1: Well it's happening, and there's no time for that. Now

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Speaker 1: those shots aren't can't happen.

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Speaker 2: No, it's got to be quick. Yeah, it'll be quick,

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Speaker 2: it'll be cool. You know what what I learned now

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Speaker 2: doing games right, because I do every games every week,

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Speaker 2: is the innings are short, right, so story's got to

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Speaker 2: be short or whatever your animal rise to be short.

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Speaker 2: And two, there's not a lot of time for replays,

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Speaker 2: so there's unless something like you know, when you're doing

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Speaker 2: a game, you have a headset on and there's people

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Speaker 2: in your ear saying like what we're gonna we're what

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Speaker 2: they're going to show possibly, or you know, do we

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Speaker 2: want to replay? And you can talk back to the

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Speaker 2: producer and the director or you can say, hey, can

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Speaker 2: you give me a shot of this, or can you

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Speaker 2: give me this or whatever, But now they're like, replay

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Speaker 2: if we have time, and you're like, well what you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh crap, it's already two outs and spend two and

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Speaker 2: a half minutes and the inning's over, So there's no

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Speaker 2: time for like saying, a guy hits a ball and

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Speaker 2: it's it's hitting. The guy dies and catches it when

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Speaker 2: it was the second out. Boom, twenty seconds later, it's

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Speaker 2: the next pitch, they can't cut it and get back

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: and it's the third out, and you're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we'll have to show it next half. And then the

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Speaker 2: moment passes and you're like, well, we can't show it anymore.

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Speaker 2: So that's that is the biggest difference for me at

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Speaker 2: watching games and broadcasting games now is how quick it

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Speaker 2: goes and how much less time you have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait. It's always the best time of

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,919
Speaker 1: the year. Football starts, the Georgia Bulldogs beat up on Florida.

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Speaker 1: There's baseball, it's going to be amazing. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: getting going, always a pleasure. Foul Territory continues success with that,

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to text you while you're broadcasting

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Speaker 1: important Dodgers games coming down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Well, Fox has al this year, so you're safe. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to bother me. You don't have to bother

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Speaker 2: me like Seattle, Minnesota, you know, Baltimore, Tampa, something like that.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to text me because it's always fun when

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: I hear from you and I'm waiting for the text,

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01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: like can you say like some random word on the air.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever do that, I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I know people do, though, can you say like super

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Speaker 2: calus fragilestic? Thanks AJ, Thanks Brian, hopefully I see you

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you, sin Aj. Thanks so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: I know that you're a busy man. I appreciate it

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: very much. And uh, I'm sorry. I hope you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and tell everyone that that you're

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Speaker 1: actually a nice guy. I hope that doesn't ruin your reputation.

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Speaker 1: Check AJ out listeners on foul Territory on YouTube or

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Speaker 1: on your on your favorite podcast app. And as long

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Speaker 1: until next time, have a great week. Off the Beat

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Speaker 1: is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside

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