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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program Tuesday night. Let's have

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Speaker 1: some fun. Great to hear Case Keenum on the radio

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Speaker 1: with Ndy Kalou and Drew Doherty. Case a Texans legend,

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Speaker 1: Johnny John Harris is with us. Of course, we have

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Speaker 1: Texans Legends, which is the formal league marketing name for

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Speaker 1: any player who has played in the NFL now retired.

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Speaker 1: They're all considered legends. And there's some confusion about that.

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Speaker 1: Why do you call Moran Norris? I hate to single

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Speaker 1: out Moran because I think he is kind of a legend.

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Speaker 1: He's a Madison Marlin. But why do you call a

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Speaker 1: guy like that a legend? Didn't play that long for

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Speaker 1: this franchise. Because they're all legends, that's why we do it.

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Speaker 1: But Case Keenum is a legend, and someday will be

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Speaker 1: one of these other legends. But he's already a legend

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Speaker 1: and he's still playing for the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: That's nice, it is.

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Speaker 3: I got a question, and I thought about this. We

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Speaker 3: joked with Andre the other day about, you know, taking

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Speaker 3: the University of Houston head coaching job. Yeah, you think

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Speaker 3: that Case would entertain it?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Look, they I didn't hear the whole show. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they addressed that or not. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I think I can't speak for him,

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Speaker 1: but these players know what they're getting into when they

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Speaker 1: get into that, right. Yeah, people ask you all the time.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Johnny. Here we are, it's

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Let's just have some fun, let our hair down,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. I am sure you get asked all

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Speaker 1: the time. Why not go back into coaching? Why I

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Speaker 4: You know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, it's it's such a I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say it's such a unique business because there

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Speaker 4: are so many out there, but it is such an

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Speaker 4: all in business. How the week goes for you.

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Speaker 3: Is solely dependent on how Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a tough way to live life, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, we don't have that. We don't have that. Now.

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Speaker 2: I thought, wait a minute, wait a.

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Speaker 1: Minute, I just realized that's how I live my life anyway.

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Speaker 4: I know, you're probably You're probably right, You're probably right.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: A long, long time ago, I remember there was a

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Speaker 4: And I just kind of felt like, you know, I

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Speaker 4: you know, I've always felt like I can handle anything,

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Speaker 4: but I just kind of felt.

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Speaker 3: Like I wanted to be true to everything about the

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Speaker 3: I was doing, anything I was going to give, you know,

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Speaker 3: a fair shot to my my players, my program to school,

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Speaker 4: A few years later, an opportunity came up. But I

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Speaker 3: And I don't know whether Case would feel like he's

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I think he is capable of doing anything.

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Speaker 2: It's not about that, Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I just think he could.

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Speaker 3: I think he could be a whale of a coach,

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Speaker 4: I have always had this issue in this thing. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: I talked to Bill Laser the other day. Bill and I.

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Speaker 3: He's our senior offensive assistant and Bill and I played

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Speaker 4: I never wanted to go back to my alma manor

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Speaker 3: As weird as that sounds, I never wanted to go

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Speaker 3: Then the thing that I loved for all those years,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be around it.

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Speaker 3: And there's just a lot of you know, it'll be expectations,

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Speaker 3: you're an alum and all that, and it would be

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Speaker 4: But I know he loves University Houston.

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Speaker 3: I hope that in some way, shape or form, both

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Speaker 3: I think that would be awesome. I still think Case

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Speaker 4: I just don't know if this is you know, to

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Speaker 3: Instructor, just watching him work with young guys. I watched

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Speaker 3: And I've always kind of felt that about Case, that

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Speaker 1: I think the coaching part of it, though, is what

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Speaker 1: on all that teaching because the head coach can only

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Speaker 1: teach so much. He's got to be the CEO. He's

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Speaker 1: got to coach his coaches, right, ye manage your managers.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing when you become the boss. It's another

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Speaker 2: The other thing.

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Speaker 1: He can't spend that much time with him because he's

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Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin to coach the way he wants to coach.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Chris Kiffin has his own ways of

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Speaker 1: Who knows, but I can bet on that that you

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Speaker 2: And why wouldn't you. You know, he enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: not saying Dion's the be all end all, but Dean's

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Speaker 1: And I know recruiting has so much more to do

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Speaker 4: End up seeing the other side of life.

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Speaker 3: You end up you know, as a player, you know,

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Speaker 3: go beyond that. Yeah, you know, meetings, how do you

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Speaker 3: how do you handle things and meetings where they're coaches?

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Speaker 3: How do you, you know, take instruction from the head coach

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Speaker 4: There's so much that goes into it that I.

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Speaker 3: Look at a guy like Demiko Ryanson in some sense,

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Speaker 3: I'm flabbergasted in some sense how quickly it seems as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to.

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Speaker 3: Pull in coaches from a number of different It wasn't okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he got Bobby because he knew Bobby, you know, but

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Speaker 3: There were some he had no connections to, and yet

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Speaker 4: Made all that work. I think that, to me is

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Speaker 2: And you couldn't do it with this offense. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: But when you have so many close games in a row,

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Speaker 2: Thank you serve that up?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 3: Here's I always think about this mark, you know, because

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Speaker 3: But the Denver Broncos in nineteen ninety eight, bringing up

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Speaker 3: the Broncos, the Denver Broncos were six I'm sorry, there

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Speaker 1: That's life. That's NFL stuff right there. That's NFL football.

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Speaker 3: No, here's a meme that popped up and it said,

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Speaker 4: Oh, this really traumatic. Sack Wilson pull up photo me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he did it all. He did it

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Speaker 2: That's it. And he he's not playing next week. We

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Speaker 1: If he was gonna play next week, he'd be practicing already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, presumably, And so Rogers is gonna go win a

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Speaker 3: There's no way that he's coming back for that. No,

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Speaker 3: there's no way. No, the Jets have to step in

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Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 3: No, this cannot happen. You cannot go on on a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not December tenth, but absolutely I would love to

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Speaker 1: It's four losses in a row for the Jets. Now

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've been thinking about this because I brought up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm throw a scenario at you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's say the Jets just the bottom drops out,

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Speaker 4: We need to bring Robert back.

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Speaker 3: Let Rogers teach that young dude, and then Rogers steps aside.

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Speaker 3: becomes really interesting to me how the Jets kind of

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Speaker 3: handle that part going forward.

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Speaker 1: I would bring Rogers back, presuming he wants to. I

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Speaker 1: would say, listen, we can't hire Randall Cobb and we

443
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Speaker 1: can't go get Antonio Freeman or whoever else you want.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even.

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Speaker 1: Know forgetting you know, all these packer guys or whatever.

446
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Speaker 1: We got to build this thing around We'll build it

447
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Speaker 1: around you offensively, but we got to get ready for

448
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Speaker 1: the future at the same time, somehow, some way. And

449
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Speaker 1: you can school the young quarterback, or he can just

450
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Speaker 1: be around you and absorb whatever he can absorb. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a Rogers Brett Favre situation, right, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: or of Jordan Love Aaron Rodgers situation. So get your guy,

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Speaker 1: let him sit and c J. Stroud has made life

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable for Caleb Williams, Drake May, whoever, comes into

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Speaker 1: the draft high because everyone's going to be wanting that

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Speaker 1: and not expecting that necessarily, but hoping for that. That's

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Speaker 1: become the bar, and it's very high and it's gonna

458
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Speaker 1: be hard for those guys to reach it. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: you get to go to New York, if you're a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: sit behind Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: He might get hurt again.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you're playing at some point soon, but sit

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Speaker 1: behind Aaron Rodgers, watch him learn, just like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Now, like Alex Smith is way better than

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, other way around, Rogers better than

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. But that was a very good Kansas City team,

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Speaker 1: a playoff team that Mahomes was drafted to. They had

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Speaker 1: the luxury to be able to sit him for a

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Speaker 1: year and then look what happened. And that's not why

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Speaker 1: it happened. That's not the only reason, but it probably

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Speaker 1: helped them to sit for a little bit. Anyway, So

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Speaker 1: sit a guy and come back do it that way.

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Speaker 1: I would be all in on that if I was

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Speaker 1: a Jets fan, and I'm clearly not, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad way for them to go about

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Speaker 1: their business. And am I right about my CJ. Stroud

477
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Speaker 1: barometer that Caleb Williams. The expectations are high enough anyway,

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Speaker 1: but they're going to be even higher after people see

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Speaker 1: what CJ is doing this year.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, CJ has moved the bar so much, as you know,

481
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Speaker 3: for these rookie quarterbacks. And I mean it's it's I mean, Mark,

482
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Speaker 3: it's a it's a tremendous class. And you know, I

483
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Speaker 3: know you've often joked about, well, you know, everybody says

484
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Speaker 3: the next class is a better class. Yeah, you know me,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Like back in the Canny Picket class,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is not the class you want

487
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Speaker 3: to have a draft pick, you know. And then I

488
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Speaker 3: said about this class like, well, I think there are

489
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Speaker 3: some elite guys.

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Speaker 4: Now there's some questions about a few.

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Speaker 3: Guys because Anthony Richardson Wiley twented, you know, we went

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Speaker 3: through all that. Yeah, this class, this class has an

493
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Speaker 3: opportunity to be unbelievable. Hayley Williams, Drake May. Now some

494
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Speaker 3: of these guys, these guys.

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Speaker 4: All have to declare they will they you would think they.

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Speaker 3: Willn JJ McCarthy, Michigan's very good bo Nicks Oregon, Michael

497
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Speaker 3: Pennix quinn Ewers at Texas. What does Shader Sanders do? Uh,

498
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Speaker 3: this class is really really good. I think you can

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Speaker 3: get a top notch quarterback. I mean, the thing about

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Speaker 3: him is they all play the game. As we've talked about,

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Speaker 3: there's mobility involved in their game.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to rely on it though it's not

503
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Speaker 4: all about that, but.

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Speaker 3: They're I mean Caleb Williams, I know there's been a

505
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Speaker 3: lot of talk about him and you know some of

506
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Speaker 3: the responses to the end of his games and he

507
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Speaker 3: was crying, you know, next to his mom after they lost,

508
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Speaker 3: to watching it all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Kealeb Williams is a supreme talent at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Leged CJ's changing the expectation level for those quarterbacks just

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Speaker 3: as much as he's changing the expectation level of what

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Speaker 3: people think the Texans should do.

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Speaker 1: Is Caleb Williams in your opinion, well, never mind your opinion,

514
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Speaker 1: but your opinion of people's boards around the league. Do

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Speaker 1: you think he's taking a dent? And if he has,

516
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Speaker 1: who has replaced him? Maybe he's taking a dent, but

517
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Speaker 1: he might still be the number one guy. But if

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Speaker 1: he's not the number one guy in people's boards. Is

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Speaker 1: it Nick, is it May? Is it somebody I'm not

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Speaker 1: thinking of.

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Speaker 3: I think most people, if they have moved Caleb down

522
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Speaker 3: or they didn't have Caleb at number one.

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Speaker 4: It was Drake May.

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Speaker 3: May is the guy at six ' four almost sixty

525
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Speaker 3: five to twenty mark. He's Drake May at North Carolina

526
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Speaker 3: is so incredibly talented. His size is like Colin Kaepernick,

527
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Speaker 3: but he throws the ball like CJ. So I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what's the cop for a guy like Drake May. But

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Speaker 3: both Caleb Williams and Drake May, both of them the

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Speaker 3: last two three games of the year were a mess.

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Speaker 3: They were a mess, and you know some of Caleb's

532
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Speaker 3: is off the field, you know, meet with the media,

533
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Speaker 3: you know, Usc kind of kind of went sideways on

534
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Speaker 3: a number of things. So I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: some scouts that want to see a little bit more maturity.

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Speaker 3: From that standpoint, I don't think Drake May has ever

537
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Speaker 3: had those issues, but Drake's had some issues throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball the last couple of games of the year.

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Speaker 4: So there's still tremendous core.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at this time last year, there were

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Speaker 3: a lot of people saying well, CJ. Stroud only completed

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Speaker 3: like seven of nineteen passes at Northwestern, so like.

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Speaker 4: He's not that good. I mean, look at it now.

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Speaker 3: So I think what the Texans have shown though, is

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Speaker 3: that that quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Needs to go to the right place.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City was the perfect spot for Patrick Mahomes. He

548
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Speaker 3: needed Andy Reid, He needed Andy Reid's hands on approach

549
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Speaker 3: yet creativity to allow Patrick.

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Speaker 4: To be who he is.

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Speaker 3: C J Stroud coming to Houston was absolutely perfect, coming

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Speaker 3: to this coaching staff led by the Miko Bobby Slowkes

553
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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, and of course having receivers six '

554
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Speaker 3: four Nico blazing fast tank, the ultimate vet in Robert Woods,

555
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Speaker 3: the versatile Noah Brown, I mean, having all those and

556
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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz, you know, all these things that were surrounding

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Speaker 3: CJ when he got here. Those guys aren't going to

558
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Speaker 3: have that that fortunate opportunity to have all that, so

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Speaker 3: they got to make the most of wherever they end

560
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Speaker 3: up going. But this crop of quarterbacks from a talent

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Speaker 3: standpoint is off the charts.

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Speaker 1: You just made a point that I want to dig

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Speaker 1: into a little bit more about the supporting cast around CJ. Plus,

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Speaker 1: it's a special Texans Anniversary today. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Johnny knows this, but we're going to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the great moments. Is it a franchise history?

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio All right back here, Mark vandermir and

568
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Speaker 1: John Harris with you Texans All Access. Johnny, you brought

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Speaker 1: up a point before the break about the supporting cast

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Speaker 1: and the way you put it, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys won't have I'm paraphrasing here the benefit of a

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Tank Dell and Nico Collins. I just

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Speaker 1: love how these guys, and I say this as a

574
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Speaker 1: credit to them, how these guys are called outstanding weapons

575
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Speaker 1: now around the league, and some people are using this

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Speaker 1: as a quote excuse, not that you are why Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young is a better because he doesn't have these great weapons.

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Speaker 2: Well, where was this evaluation in August and July of

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Speaker 2: these weapons? Right?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people national pundits were saying, well, look

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Speaker 1: at that supporting cast, he's just not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to get it done. Yeah, Damian Pierres pretty good running back,

583
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Speaker 1: but what else do they really have? And I thought

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Speaker 1: at the time, Johnny, I literally thought this, Hey, don't

585
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: they know who Dalton Schultz is and it wasn't like

586
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Speaker 1: I thought Dalton was going to catch one hundred passes.

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Speaker 1: But Dalton's pretty good. What about Devin Singletary, He was

588
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: the Bills leading rusher. They're pretty good football team, and he's.

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Speaker 2: A pretty good running back.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you at least mention those guys those free

591
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: agent acquisitions? And then you look at a Nico's caught

592
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: some balls. I know he has had some injury issues

593
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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm talking back in the summertime, but look

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Speaker 1: at him now right. You have Nico Collins doing very

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Speaker 1: well for himself, eight hundred receiving yards on the season

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Speaker 1: with six to go. You have Noah Brown leading the

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Speaker 1: league in yards per catch. You have Tank del right

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Speaker 1: up there in both categories and seven touchdowns on his

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Speaker 1: stat sheet. They are balling Dalton Schultz with seven tds.

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Speaker 1: This is just so much fun to watch. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a credit to them and CJ. The whole gang

602
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: working together very well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you said it right there, Mark, The whole gang

604
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: has worked together really really well.

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Speaker 4: I You and I talked about this and we're like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, I feel like we're better at receiver than

607
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: people think, and the one thing that I really liked

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Speaker 3: about it was, Okay, what the receiver, What do you

609
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 3: want to have in your receiver group. We'd like to

610
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Speaker 3: have some size, we want to have some speed, We'd

611
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Speaker 3: like to have some smart route running, We'd like to

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Speaker 3: have all that.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Texans have that in just three or four

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Speaker 4: different guys.

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Speaker 3: Some places have a wide receiver one that does all

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Speaker 3: of that, and then the other guys sort of compliment him.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Texans needed all those different assets,

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Speaker 3: and they had them, but they just had them in

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Speaker 3: different guys. And so you're wondering, Okay, how does that all,

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Speaker 3: how does that all come together in this Well.

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Speaker 4: We've we've seen how it's come together.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that that Bryce completely had that,

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Speaker 3: but to me, and I saw this back. I remember

624
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Speaker 3: the very first preseason game I saw for Carolina. I

625
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: saw that offensive line trying to protect Bryce, and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: oh boy, this is not I don't care who he

627
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Speaker 3: as a receiver, he's not going to get the ball off.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I do think that that Bryce has shown a couple

630
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: of things in Carolina that you know.

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Speaker 4: He's things have to speed up for him. CJ.

632
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: Has already sped those things up. Yeah, but he's got

633
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: to speed things up. He's turning down NFL open receivers

634
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: and looking for college open receivers, and that's he's not

635
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: going to find that now. His receivers, I think they

636
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: could obviously use a glow up, there's no question. But

637
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: Adam Field has been really good, you know, Adam Feeling's

638
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: been good for him. But I think Mingo had a

639
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: deacon game against US, but he's kind of been a

640
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: little bit of a disappointm you know, I think they

641
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: expected more from him. Whereas you look at the Texans

642
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: receivers and you're like, which one has been a disappointment?

643
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Speaker 4: Well, none of them.

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Speaker 3: They've all really, I don't want to say played above

645
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: their above their pay grade, but they really have played

646
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: well together and I think that's what's made that receiver

647
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: group really really good.

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Speaker 4: But it just goes to show man, you know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I just hearing all that over the summer, I

650
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Speaker 3: was like, man, I got a feeling people are going

651
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: to just change their tune and we're gonna have receipts

652
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: of it. And everybody's kind of changing their tune. Now

653
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: it's like, oh no, we heard y'all, We heard y'all

654
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: this summer thirty second wide receiver group in the league. Now,

655
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Speaker 3: where would people put it? Oh, I'd be curious to

656
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Speaker 3: know where people would put it.

657
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Speaker 2: Now a lot higher.

658
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: Well, CJ's made them, No, no, no, let's be careful. Yeah,

659
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: they've made each other. They've all worked really well together,

660
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Speaker 3: and I hope that continues.

661
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 4: Well.

662
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I think the chemistry has a lot to do with it,

663
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, the chemistry, the way they work together and

664
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Speaker 1: want to be together, and the way they operate. It's

665
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: it's so cool. And yeah, the Panthers also have Chark.

666
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: They have Hayden Hurst at tight end. All right, how

667
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: about this for Hayden Hurst. I'm looking at the numbers

668
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: right now. He's been targeted thirty two times but caught eighteen.

669
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: That's not good. That's not good for a tight end ouch.

670
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: So in the best yard per catch average is Chark

671
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: at thirteen For a guy like that, that's not getting

672
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: it done.

673
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Obviously.

674
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Speaker 1: Well, they're having a new coach and they'll have their

675
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: own issues to deal with. Meanwhile, the Colts, Johnny, I

676
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: want to get into this before I get into that

677
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: special Texans anniversary. Jonathan Taylor might have an injury issue, okay,

678
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: which would be a problem for them, but they've been

679
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: running the ball well even without him at times this year,

680
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: right because they have Zach Moss and he's pretty good,

681
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: and they've been doing this with Gardner Minshew. They have

682
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the same record as the Texans, and of course they

683
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: beat the Texans, so that's pretty good.

684
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: Now.

685
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Minshew's not setting the world on fire seven picks. That

686
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: is not attractive. It's got less than two thousand passing yards,

687
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: but they've been doing it on the ground. Moss has

688
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy two yards, Taylor four fourteen. They're

689
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: both averaging well over four well at least Moss is

690
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: at four point eight, Taylor at four point one. And

691
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: that's about it for them in the running back department,

692
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: But what more could you ask for? And Pittman's having

693
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: a nice year at seventy six catches for seven eighty four.

694
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: Josh Downs is looking good for them. That rookie right,

695
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: five sixty six through the air, five hundred and sixty

696
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: six yards.

697
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: They've got some things going for them.

698
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: And this to me, and maybe I'm just being poetic

699
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: operatic dramatic. It's gonna come down to that game. I

700
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: just have the feeling that we're gonna be going to

701
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Week eighteen and it's gonna be on the line

702
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans that they have to beat the

703
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Colts to get in, and maybe the Colts get in

704
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: with a win, and won't that be something.

705
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Week eighteen's coming down to that.

706
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting you brought that up about Zach

707
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor. Ian Rapport put out a report earlier

708
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: today about a potential hand or wrist issue for Jonathan Taylor,

709
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: and you think that identity of that team has really

710
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: kind of changed back to we're gonna we're gonna ground

711
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: and pound because they have two guys that can do

712
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: it well, you take one guy out of that.

713
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: Mix that that's huge.

714
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: Now, even though Zach Moss had a great game against us,

715
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: it's huge once you get to week eighteen, yep, and

716
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: we are a completely different run stopping team. Yeah, watch

717
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: every single run rep and it was it was impressive

718
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: to watch our guys get off blocks, be violent, set

719
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: the edge and really other than the one run that

720
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: Etn had that he kind of broke out and then

721
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: Steven Nelson almost knocked the ball out at twenty four

722
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: to twenty one.

723
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: That was it. That was all that he really got.

724
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: So if the Colts have both guys, it's that much

725
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: more difficult to stop that offense because okay, Zach Moss

726
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: needs a rest, here comes Jonathan Taylor or vice versa.

727
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just that much harder to stop. And

728
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: that's why I'm hoping we can get to or that's

729
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: what I'm hoping we can get to with Devin and

730
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: with Damien.

731
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: Is that kind of thing.

732
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: We're not there yet, at least we weren't last week.

733
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 4: Hopefully we can get there. Maybe this is the weekend's Denver,

734
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: we can do it.

735
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Point being, you take Jonathan Taylor on that offense, he

736
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: and an offensive line are kind of the identity. I

737
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: mean Moss too, I mean both of them, but now

738
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: take one out of there, it just.

739
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: Slows it down.

740
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it puts a little bit more pressure on Gardner Minshew.

741
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: And look, Gardner Minshew went to Germany.

742
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: And produced ten points ten and they won.

743
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: So you know, the new the Patriot defense is good,

744
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: not that good.

745
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: So there are some of those games in the Colt's bag,

746
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: if you will. It's the matter of the Texans in

747
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: Week eighteen, a long ways from now, not seemingly. They've

748
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: got to pull that game out of the Colts in

749
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: their building, which is gonna be tough.

750
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: But mark out. I'll be honest. I love it.

751
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: I love the fact that Texans Colts game in Week

752
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: eighteen in Indianapolis means something.

753
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: I love it.

754
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we fifteen, it wasn't Week eighteen, but twenty fifteen.

755
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: How much did that game mean for the division? Twenty sixteen,

756
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: that game meant a lot for the division.

757
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: Last year that was a different meaning.

758
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: But this year could be right on par week team

759
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: means something, you know, win and get in, win and

760
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: changers whatever. But that game's going to mean something down

761
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: the stretch. So I'm looking forward to it. I think

762
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really really cool.

763
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: Such a profound series in the history of this franchise.

764
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: It's the only divisional opponent, the Colts, that the Texans

765
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: have played in a playoff game, and they lost that

766
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: playoff game. But that just adds more fuel to the

767
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: fire really. And by the way, side note on the

768
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Patriots here, they lost to the Giants. There are their

769
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: last two losses, ten to six, ten to seven. It

770
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: ain't going well.

771
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: Wouch.

772
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: That is horrible.

773
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: You lose two games in a row, giving up ten

774
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: points in each game. You can't eclipse ten points. Their

775
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: defense is I don't want to say the word fine,

776
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: but I think it's good enough to win some games here.

777
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: They've allowed some pretty high point totals, but that's because

778
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 1: the offense can't do anything and they're turning it over

779
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: like it's on fire. I mean, three points against the Cowboys,

780
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: scoreless against the Saints at home, seventeen against the Dolphins, Okay,

781
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: seventeen Commanders seventeen. They get beaten at home by Washington

782
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. Anyway, I'm eager to see how that

783
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: thing's gonna play out. That's going to be a great

784
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: story in the sense of a dramatic story. Okay, the

785
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: storytelling part of the NFL. All right, one more segment

786
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: that special anniversary.

787
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: What is it?

788
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: Right out of the shoot? Next it's Texans Radio. Okay,

789
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: we're backing. It happened on November twenty eighth of twenty ten.

790
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: The Texans were mired in a very frustrating campaign refrustrating

791
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: started out four and two, but then started to lose

792
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: games at the buzzer Hail Mary and Jacksonville, horror show

793
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: late against the New York Jets, bad moments late against

794
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers here at home, etc. But in came the

795
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Titans with Rusty Smith at quarterback, and along the way

796
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Courtland Finnegan cornerback for your Tennessee Titans, not yours, theirs,

797
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson. They were mixing it up all game long.

798
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: Finally Andre had enough. Finigan pulled off his helmet. They

799
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: went at it. Let's listen to a little bit of this.

800
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: A lot of pushing and shoving and somebody's got to

801
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: pull Andrey Johnson out, Jeff Fisher at midfield with Courtland

802
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Finigan trying.

803
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: To keep him out of it.

804
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: And this thing is not even broken up officially yet,

805
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: as Antonio Smith is in the mix, Jason mccordy in

806
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: the mix, and now peace prevails for the moment. Flags everywhere,

807
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson close to the sideline now, but he

808
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: is far from cool, as he almost went back into

809
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: the melee for more action.

810
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 4: Well, I'm crowning on in my points system.

811
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I give it to Andre a couple of uppercuts were landed.

812
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: We're waiting for a replay.

813
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh Finnegan is winking, just horrible. Finnegan is a dirty

814
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: player and he admits it as Drey and I will

815
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: look at the monitor and Andre Johnson, Oh Finnegan ripped

816
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: Drey's helmet off.

817
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: Dre was really going at it with finagain. There were

818
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: punches thrown.

819
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: It was all Andre Johnson, all right.

820
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: In the call there I really don't have I didn't

821
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: have my binoculars directly on the fight, which is it

822
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: doesn't last too long when you look at our video

823
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: replay of this. But Johnny, I want to throw this

824
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: angle at you first about the Finnigan fight, because when

825
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: we're doing all this sore stuff and once again he's

826
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame semi finalist, we expect them to

827
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: be a finalist. We expect them to get in at

828
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: some point. But the element of this being Dre's one

829
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: of his greatest moments. Okay, if you pull the fans,

830
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: many of them many, I can't give you a percentage

831
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: we'll say that is his greatest moment. It's a fight,

832
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say this. I was watching the Nolan

833
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: Ryan movie and Nolan Ryan and Robin Ventura when Ventura

834
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: came after him on the mound and he waiales on Ventura.

835
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: That might be Nolan's signature moment of his career, the

836
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: one that endures more.

837
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: Than any other. Is there another moment in Nolan's career.

838
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: This is a man who threw seven no hitters seven,

839
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: but the Robin Ventura fight is the one that stands

840
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: out in people's minds. I used to think there was

841
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: something wrong with Finnegan being the moment, or at least

842
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: one of the top three, but now I don't.

843
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 4: Why not.

844
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan's got it. That's good company as far as

845
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, Am I right?

846
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 4: I think it is for a lot.

847
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Of fans because it feels like Andre is standing up

848
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: to the Titans bully, yeah, and he is delivering those

849
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: punches for us. Those are delivered for us. And I think,

850
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: you know, as it pertains to Nolan too. He's been

851
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: asked about and he was asked about it. I want

852
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: to say the documentary he was talked about that he

853
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: has probably signed that picture more often than any other

854
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: picture of him with in turn headlock. But I think

855
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: what it is for both guys. Both of them were

856
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: very I don't saying soft spoken. You know, they didn't

857
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: say a whole lot, you know, they spoke with their

858
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: play and I think both moments, for Dre and for Nolan,

859
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: they were We're badasses, don't mess with us.

860
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think the fans looked at and interesting enough.

861
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: I think that the Rangers fans they saw it as

862
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 3: he's standing up for us to come in the same

863
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: way because that was the white Socks Rangers thing that

864
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: they had going on at the time. And so Nolan

865
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: was standing up for the Rangers by a buzzing to

866
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: tower on Ventura and then when Ventura came out there

867
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: to take, you know, take business into his own hands.

868
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: So both guys would you know. It's funny because I

869
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: don't think either one really loved talking.

870
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: About it, but if you kind of get them going

871
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 4: on it, they'll.

872
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: Talk about it, which I find interesting. But I feel

873
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: like that is a Houston fan like he he he.

874
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: He lobbed those punches on the Finity the back of

875
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: Finnegan's head.

876
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: That was for us, yes, and I know it was

877
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: for him. He had been tired of what was going.

878
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: On, but he did that for us the ultimate Texan

879
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: nailing the Bully Titan right there on the field for

880
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: everyone to see and making Finnigan like it.

881
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 4: It's just the ultimate moment.

882
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: In a fan when our guy is standing up for us.

883
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: And I would imagine the Rangers fans felt that way

884
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: when Nolan did it. I felt that way when Andre

885
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: was doing it, like yeah, yeah, Andre, Like it's one

886
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: of the moments I wish I'd been on the sidelines

887
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: for prior to me being there in twenty fourteen, I

888
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: would have loved to have been there for that moment.

889
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: I didn't play it, but rich Lord had a pretty

890
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: good call on it. It wasn't live, but rich described

891
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: it very well because he was looking right at it.

892
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: He was on the sideline and it was right in

893
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: his line of vision. You know, when I call the game,

894
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: I've got the binoculars. You know, I'm zoomed in on

895
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: the ball. I have to look at the ball. If

896
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't look at the ball, we're all dead on

897
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: the radio. Got to look at the ball where it's going.

898
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: So I missed the initial activity. But I've seen the

899
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: video a billion times and one thing is clear. You

900
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with Andre Johnson.

901
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: No, no, I mean that, do not take.

902
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: Do not take His soft spoken doesn't say a whole

903
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: lot of word. That man he has got fired just

904
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: like everybody else, and that's what made him so great.

905
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: And congratulations to Dre for being a semifinals again for

906
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.

907
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: I hope this is the year Mark. I hope this

908
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: is finally the year.

909
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: I think had he played another great even half season,

910
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: but another great season, another eight hundred to one thousand

911
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: yard season, he'd be in the top ten of everything

912
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: he would get in. Right, he doesn't have the touchdowns.

913
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: We know he's got the catches, we know he's got

914
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: the yards. I think he's got the people. You know,

915
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: as long as McLean is around to help remind everybody

916
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: of how great he was. What really upsets me about

917
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: Andre is that when people talk about Megatron and some

918
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: of the other receivers who are around, and Megatron's great.

919
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm not taking one little thing away from Megatron, but

920
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: you cannot sit here and tell me that Megatron is

921
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: so much better than Andre Johnson, No freaking way. I

922
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: watched him both and Andre Johnson rocks. Andre Johnson was

923
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: the thing to come see at NRG Stadium every week

924
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: for years until the team really started to get it

925
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: going and a huge reason why the Texans got really

926
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: good on offense.

927
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: In they got much better.

928
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: In seven they were fourteenth in the league, and then

929
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: they go on this run where they're top four three

930
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: out of four five years. And he's a big reason

931
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: why they are in that because he is the straw

932
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: that stirs the drink and put up astronomical numbers. So

933
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: I really pray he gets in soon. It'd be great

934
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: next summer. Hey, let's do the Hall of Fame game

935
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: next summer in Canton.

936
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: Huh, Yes, that'd be awesome.

937
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean that'd be great. That'd be great. I'd love

938
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: to see it, love to check it all out. So, Johnny,

939
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: what do you got going on? On matchup?

940
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: Tonight?

941
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna look back at the ultra eleven plays of

942
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: the game against Jacksonville and tell the story of the game.

943
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: We'll look back at week thirteen twelve in the NFL.

944
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: I always get college. College is always one ahead, so

945
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: be twelve in the NFL. It's pretty exciting weekend. And

946
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: then we'll look back the last time I forgot about

947
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. I went all the way back to twenty

948
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: twelve and founts some cool moments when the Broncos and

949
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: Texans met.

950
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: That's a better game.

951
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: Shop would absolutely crazy against the Broncos in twenty twelve.

952
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know who played quarterback for the Broncos in

953
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.

954
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: It was Case Keenum.

955
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: It was Case Keenum, which is how we began the

956
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: show tonight with Case on the Texans Huddle Players Show.

957
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: So that was really cool. Johnny, thanks a lot. We

958
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

959
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: Got Mark, thank you.

960
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, it's Texans matchup with John Harris

961
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: now on the Wednesday night show Nick Cassario right out

962
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: of the gate at six o'clock and we will take

963
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: it from there. Jalen Peetree is going to be on

964
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: a deep slant interview. Well now we just call it

965
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the Slant with no dB. Brandon Harris will do it tomorrow.

966
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: It'll be Jalen Peatree and also some bonus time with

967
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: Neville Hewitt. Dave Logan, voice of the Broncos, schedule to appear.

968
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: We've got an OG's podcast with nd at some point

969
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: either tomorrow or Friday, with Jeff Tarpinian who played for

970
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: the Texans for a limited time. But he's a guy

971
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: who does a lot of banking here for amaging in town.

972
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: He's a really good dude and very interesting interview. A

973
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: lot of great stuff coming up here on Texans Radio.

974
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: You know you want to be a part of it.

975
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Go Texans.