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Speaker 6: The thing is Carl Anthony Town is an All NBA player,

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Speaker 7: Wiggins was shooting basically fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: From three out of the gate.

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Speaker 7: You put up a forty seven spot, a thirty six,

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Speaker 2: All we have is stroop waffle in subway sailors.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's getting better, it's getting better.

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Speaker 1: he is mixing it.

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Speaker 2: Up right now.

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Speaker 3: Show it, dunk it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Let's say I had nothing wrong with a little dink

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Speaker 1: You don't see Wiggins make a lot, or you haven't

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Speaker 2: Is shooting this. He's shooting it, he's shooting it, he's shooting.

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Speaker 4: Who could possibly be down on this?

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Speaker 4: That was just such a great moment in the NBA

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Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't, Austin Rivers.

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Speaker 1: He tweeted, welp, Thanksgiving is going to be weird. That's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, imagine the engagement. I know likes are going away,

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Speaker 6: I wonder if the Rivers and Curry family get together

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Speaker 5: Yes, you never know. There's there's lots of Damian Lee

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Speaker 5: Wow, great stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they get together.

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Speaker 7: They don't play touch football outside on Thanksgivings. They all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody does it differently.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: Some people like to get their dad tossed. Other people

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And I mean DOCA helped Austin get some money in

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Speaker 1: But so it's fine. Everybody's good. Very very funny moment.

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Speaker 7: Oh, super up. I love I'm buying this beef. It's

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Speaker 7: And I'm here for it because it's very It's crazy

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Speaker 7: Harden was amazing last night. He was cooking, but it

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Speaker 7: he's almost like a highlight defender. If his guy has

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Speaker 4: Like in that game last night, and I don't know

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Speaker 4: I didn't do anything that wasn't the reason they lost

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just going to keep going at it too.

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Speaker 8: I love me.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's up to thirty eight points per game on

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Speaker 1: I'm down on this though, Westbrook's gotta dig a little

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Speaker 1: was calling the time out there, and that's when Beverly

441
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Speaker 1: like sort of barreled into him and that and Westbrook

442
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Speaker 1: suffered a tormentiscus and his right knee required multiple surgeries.

443
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Speaker 1: And ever since then they've always have sniped back and

444
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Speaker 1: forth at each other, sometimes on the floor a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of the times through the media. Beverly didn't want to

446
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Speaker 1: really get too involved in this last night when asked

447
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Speaker 1: about it, about the back and forth, he sort of

448
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Speaker 1: declined to respond to Westbrook's jab there.

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Speaker 2: He said, don't start that. Don't start that. I don't

450
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Speaker 2: care about that.

451
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Speaker 1: So, you know, so if you're scoring this one, I

452
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Speaker 1: guess it's it is like a boxing match. It's a

453
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Speaker 1: one for Westbrook there in round whatever round we're in,

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know, seven or eight something like that. Between

455
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Speaker 1: these guys. Some amazing stuff Wesbroo got himself. It's funny

456
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Speaker 1: too because he's talking all this up. He's talking up hard,

457
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Speaker 1: and I get that as a good teammate. Westbrook had

458
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Speaker 1: a pretty rough game. Oh yeah, with the seventeen points

459
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Speaker 1: six at twenty shooting. There's a I guess we don't

460
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Speaker 1: know right now. The injury to Clint Cappella. He left

461
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Speaker 1: the game before and a half to go sort of

462
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Speaker 1: like I can cuss you. He got popped in the face.

463
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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be okay. Well, he'll be reevaluated and

464
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Speaker 1: we're gonna find out more today. But he was having

465
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Speaker 1: a He's been on a little tear here in terms

466
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Speaker 1: of vacuum up rebounds. Stird straight game with twenty plus rebounds,

467
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Speaker 1: first Rocket to do that since Moses Malone in eighty two,

468
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Speaker 1: but twelve and twenty for Capella with nowhere Gordon, you're

469
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Speaker 1: going to need him to step up, and he's been

470
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Speaker 1: playing well over the last little bit.

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Speaker 5: He got blasted.

472
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Speaker 3: That was a crazy gold by Jamichael Rushed crush.

473
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Speaker 1: So hopefully he's okay, you know, especially for the Rockets,

474
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Speaker 1: who are already short on guys as it is.

475
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Speaker 7: Are we ready to talk about James Harden being the

476
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Speaker 7: MVP though? I mean he's thirty eight and eight, so

477
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Speaker 7: crazy they got a better record than the Bucks.

478
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Speaker 4: It's crazy, Yeah, I mean so far he is. He's

479
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Speaker 4: back in there like it was last season, Like he's

480
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Speaker 4: still started off slowish. I mean, we didn't consider him

481
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Speaker 4: an MVP candidate early on, and then he just sort

482
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Speaker 4: of went on this tear and he's out of the game.

483
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Speaker 4: So if he keeps doing it, there's no dad he's

484
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Speaker 4: there or there beats.

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Speaker 2: It was just insane.

486
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Speaker 1: The guy can like, you know, in the first week

487
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Speaker 1: of the season, right, I don't have it in front

488
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Speaker 1: of me, but like it felt like he was still

489
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Speaker 1: averaging thirty points per game and.

490
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Speaker 2: He was like bad. Yeah, it's so weird.

491
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Speaker 3: It's like still barely about forty percent from that.

492
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's he.

493
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Speaker 7: Was getting a lot of head around for his ISO

494
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Speaker 7: defense on Kawhi Leonard too, because you know, Harden is

495
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Speaker 7: a strong guy and he can take the bumps. That's

496
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Speaker 7: why he was giving him. And he does have long

497
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Speaker 7: arms so he can challenge it. Harden looked like he

498
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Speaker 7: was giving the effort on that end as well.

499
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Speaker 1: We got to hope we get these two teams in

500
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Speaker 1: a playoffs, okay, right, I mean just what this would

501
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Speaker 1: be awesome if you get him in the first or

502
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Speaker 1: second round for sure.

503
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Speaker 2: All right.

504
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Speaker 1: Next one guys with his parents sitting courtside and like

505
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Speaker 1: one hundred friends in the stands. John morant John Morantley

506
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Speaker 1: scored on a driving left handed layup with er point

507
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Speaker 1: seven seconds remaining. To give the Grizzlies a one nineteen

508
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Speaker 1: one to seventeen victory over the Hornets. He's a South

509
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Speaker 1: Carolina native. It was his first double double of the

510
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Speaker 1: year twenty three points eleven assists help the win consecutive

511
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Speaker 1: games for the first time this season. Two guys up

512
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Speaker 1: or down on John Moran winning Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Is it his to lose?

514
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Speaker 4: I think right now it's I'm up on him. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 4: he's been really good for the Grizzlies. Fantastic again last night.

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Speaker 2: He's fine.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is fun to watch it. I mean, he's

518
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Speaker 4: so thin. He's a thin guy, but he really throws

519
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Speaker 4: his body in there. He doesn't care about getting whacked.

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Speaker 4: So good for him. And his dad was courtside, which

521
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Speaker 4: was interesting because I don't remember in the draft when

522
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Speaker 4: he got interviewed. He said, you know, I thrive off motivation.

523
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Speaker 4: My dad was my first hater, so it was.

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Speaker 5: He is a coach as well, so yeah, it's like.

525
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Speaker 1: A Jamal Murray dad type of Yeah. It was a

526
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Speaker 1: lot of love, but yeah, he's going to be your biggest.

527
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Speaker 4: Still, it was still a little unusual to hear it

528
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Speaker 4: at the draft. So anyway, you know, to do it

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Speaker 4: there with his dad courtside was great. But but certainly,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, because when it comes to rookie

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Speaker 4: this is one category that clearly wins and losses don't

532
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Speaker 4: mean anything. You want to go out there and guys

533
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Speaker 4: a star, alright, exactly, he's playing well, shooting the ball well, uh,

534
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Speaker 4: he gets assists. He you know, he's contesting shots. He's thought,

535
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Speaker 4: he's doing a lot.

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Speaker 1: So Zion will be the only one that can quote

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Speaker 1: unquote catch him here in rookie.

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Speaker 3: You're throwing RJ out already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ja Morant is lapping. I think the field. I

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Speaker 1: think you can take your tyler heroes. Yeah sure, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn Okay, yeah, good RJ. Not even close to

542
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Speaker 1: Ja Moran, not even close. Why Why because he's doing

543
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Speaker 1: he's averaging eighteen if he's leading the rookie class in scoring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: numbersists number two and is probably ranks what tenth or

545
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Speaker 1: eleventh in minutes he only plays twenty seven minutes a game.

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Speaker 2: He's got the highlights.

547
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Speaker 1: He plays in Memphis, game saving block on Kyrie Irving,

548
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Speaker 1: game winning game winning assists for the crowded same game.

549
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Speaker 2: Now he has a game winning layup the guy's list.

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Speaker 2: The guy's a star.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he is, He definitely is.

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Speaker 7: And he plays in Memphis and will people remember his

553
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Speaker 7: game winning block from November.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to r J.

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Speaker 7: Barrett has lcent rebounding night in march An, he plays

556
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Speaker 7: for the next and everybody blows him up.

557
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Speaker 3: RJ.

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Speaker 7: Barrett is second in scoring. He plays a million minutes.

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Speaker 7: He's the only reason anybody cares about the mix.

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Speaker 3: He's their best player. I don't think that it's.

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Speaker 2: You don't think he's running away with it.

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Speaker 3: I guess definitely not.

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Speaker 7: I don't think and I honestly don't even think Zion

564
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Speaker 7: Williamson is going to be out of the mix.

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Speaker 3: If he comes back in time, he could easily win.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Jaw is leading right now, but I think

568
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Speaker 7: his lead is minuscule over I.

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Speaker 2: Disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think only Zion, you know, playing hopefully fifty whatever

571
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Speaker 1: games plus games and killing it like he was in

572
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Speaker 1: the preseason, has any chance of taking this from Jaw.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: I agree with Lee that wins don't necessarily matter, but

575
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Speaker 6: when you're winning games because of your plays, that matter.

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Speaker 6: And so even if they had the same amount of

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Speaker 6: wins between RJ. Barrett and John Morant. The fact that

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Speaker 6: you have a game winning shot or a game winning

579
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Speaker 6: block that matters at the end of the season, you know,

580
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Speaker 6: over a guy who doesn't have those things clutch plays,

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Speaker 6: and I think a guy who's got the you know,

582
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Speaker 6: not not Trey Young light like quite yet, but he's

583
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Speaker 6: got some ridiculous handles and ridiculous ball skills and ridiculous

584
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Speaker 6: fakes and ridiculous everything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's a very very talented guy.

586
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Speaker 6: So he's showing out not only in in wins, but

587
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Speaker 6: in Instagram highlights as well, and I think that helps.

588
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Speaker 6: I think you'll you'll see more of him, even though

589
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Speaker 6: he's in Memphis. You're starting to see more of him

590
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Speaker 6: than RJ. Barrett, which is which is wild to say.

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Speaker 1: That play in the in the second quarter. I believe

592
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Speaker 1: it was when it looking like Trey Kirby out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've seen Tray Kirby do this where

594
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Speaker 1: he split the screen with the behind the back dribble.

595
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll be a turnover for Trey Rby, but sometimes

596
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Speaker 1: he pulls it off. Then Jaw he faked the pass

597
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Speaker 1: to the corner and then you know, the defense had

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Speaker 1: to bite on that a little bit. And then he

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Speaker 1: took the contact and finish it high off the class

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Speaker 1: And that was when he was flexing on the ground.

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Speaker 1: That play like go rewatch that clip that is there's

602
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Speaker 1: a lot happening in that clip, a lot of skill,

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Speaker 1: and it's something else and then and then not. That's

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Speaker 1: not to say we didn't really talk about the final

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Speaker 1: play where he attacked, you know, didn't settle lead. He

606
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Speaker 1: attacked the paints cooped it up. There's like four hornets

607
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Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, and the thing you got, you got

608
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Speaker 1: a kind bounce.

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Speaker 4: Sure, But again he's creating the play there by going

610
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Speaker 4: inside and knowing that he might get contact, you might

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Speaker 4: get the foul, putting it up close to the basket,

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Speaker 4: and it went in and dropped for him. I think

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Speaker 4: for a young guy again with that thin body of his,

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Speaker 4: to go in there and knowing that he might get hit,

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Speaker 4: I think it's great. Well, who was.

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Speaker 2: Talking about that on there was?

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Speaker 1: It could have been I believe it was Simmons and

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Speaker 1: Chaos maybe talking about the worry of how he plays.

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Speaker 1: As Lee takes as Lee takes a shot of ginger

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Speaker 1: little bottle into a shot of ginger.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I see the label says energy. You feeling a

622
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Speaker 7: little Yeah, you know it's like half of those podcast

623
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Speaker 7: man I do late nights, early mornings. You need a

624
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Speaker 7: little something.

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Speaker 1: It was Simmons, it's not that Simmons and KOs talking

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Speaker 1: about how he plays, how he I think they compared

627
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Speaker 1: him to a young rose, where it's like he just

628
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Speaker 1: throws his fairly, you know, frail looking body as a rookie,

629
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Speaker 1: as a young kid, time after time after time into

630
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Speaker 1: all these guys and takes the hits and takes the

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Speaker 1: bumps and like, is there any like worry that that's

632
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Speaker 1: gonna catch up to him?

633
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Speaker 2: It's fair?

634
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but don't stop doing it, please say it

635
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: is scary.

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Speaker 7: And he does look like one of the skinniest guys

637
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 7: in the league, but he just flies in there and

638
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 7: slams into people without any care for his body. But

639
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 7: that's what you do when you're twenty years old and

640
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 7: not when you're thirty years old. So enjoy it while

641
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: you can for sure. All right, Next one, guys, the

642
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 7: defending NBA champs.

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Speaker 1: They're eighting three and playing without three of their best players,

644
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: and looking at the roster, you don't think they should

645
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: be this good. But they marched into Portland last night.

646
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Speaker 1: Shut down Lillard and shut up me picking up the

647
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: one fourteen one oh six victory. Got another sort of

648
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: award based up down here. But I'm gonna word it

649
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: like this. Are you up or down on Nick Nurse's

650
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year chances?

651
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: What do you think?

652
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: Well? What do you think?

653
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Speaker 2: I'm up on them. I don't see how you could

654
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Speaker 2: be down on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's uh if the IF the Coach of

656
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Speaker 1: the Year conversation. The table is a lot smaller than

657
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the MVP. Nick Nurse is sitting at it right now.

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: Ten or eleven games in, that was an unbelievable performance.

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Speaker 1: I legit was shocked. We talked about it here in

660
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Speaker 1: the office before we even jumped on the mic. I

661
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Speaker 1: was like, I think, I I apologize, try to convince

662
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: you even to go against the Raptors. I thought the

663
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: Raptors were gonna maybe get hammered in Portland. It was

664
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: their fourth game on this long road trip. They're short

665
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: on guys, you know, no Lowry, Noah Baka no o g.

666
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: They looked gassed at the end.

667
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Versus the Clippers. Portland desperate for a win, tough place

668
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: to play. I just thought, you know, that all added

669
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: up to maybe one of those just games where you

670
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Speaker 1: lose by ten fifteen, and no one's all that upset

671
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: because here's a bit of a schedule loss and instead

672
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: the raps man the resilience.

673
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Awesome.

674
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Speaker 7: That's why I'm actually down on Nick Nurse's chances. Anybody

675
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 7: could coach the best duo in the league.

676
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: Everybody was talking.

677
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 7: About Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, Anthony Davis, Lebron James.

678
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 7: Everybody forgot the two guys who won a G League

679
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 7: title years go, then an NBA title, and now they're

680
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 7: going for I guess co MVPs. But yeah, Nick Nurse

681
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 7: guts the boys playing. I don't know what songs he's

682
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 7: playing pre game, strumming on the guitar or whatever it is.

683
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: They're loving it.

684
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: I mean the thing is, again, you look at that

685
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: starting five Gasol. He was actually decent. Miller and Powell weren't.

686
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: Ronde Hellis Jefferson.

687
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Sixteen and eleven last night, I was hitting the floor

688
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: every third play, and Terence Davis as well, because Bouchet

689
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't Actually Bouchet.

690
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 4: Had that great run in Los Angeles. He wasn't all

691
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: that special last night. But Fred van Fleet he has

692
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: to be one of the most deceptively quick players in

693
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: the league, with an incredible hander too.

694
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: He is deceptive.

695
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: He seems to walk slowly up the court or it's

696
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: just like and he's yeah, he's right past. It's like, wow, man,

697
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 4: like have a middle speed. He doesn't seem to have

698
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: that because he.

699
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: Kind of looks like you don't want it, man, change a.

700
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: Peak, because he's out there, Like I said, he's bringing

701
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: the ball up. Man, you've got to get across the

702
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: halfway line, and then before you know it, he crossed

703
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 4: up his defender. He goes and he gives him so

704
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: many options. Whether he wants to float it up off

705
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: the window, we'll find someone inside it.

706
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy what a championship can do for you,

707
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: because the first two rounds of the playoffs last year,

708
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 6: he looked like he couldn't He couldn't do anything on

709
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 6: a basketball floor. He couldn't get to the rim, his

710
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 6: passes were bad. And then the championship. Swiger is real

711
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 6: for this team and also Pascal Siak And worked his

712
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: ass off in the offseason to get better because he's

713
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: taken shots above the break in terms of his threes.

714
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 6: He didn't have that last year. The Sixers just sagged

715
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 6: back in that second round and said shoot it, and

716
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 6: he was bad and he didn't take a lot of

717
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 6: threes up there because he wasn't comfortable. This year, seventy

718
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 6: five percent of his threes are from above the break,

719
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: up from twenty nine percent according to Zach Low, And

720
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 6: he's hitting forty two percent of those shots above the

721
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: break and he can handle from there. That that was

722
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 6: not part of his game. He wasn't a point forward.

723
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 6: Now he can be a point forward. And he was

724
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 6: just like sort of all right, you know, you go

725
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 6: attack when when the attention is somewhere else. But now

726
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: he's got he's got it all in the bag.

727
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: He was lighting up Hazzonia in the post a couple

728
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: of times. Jack Armstrong was screaming on the broadcast, he.

729
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Owns you, he owns you.

730
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Raptors color commentator Jack ar Shaw, fan of the show,

731
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: We love Jack. He's yelling that, but then you're right.

732
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: Hazzonia was like, Okay, well he's killing me inside. I'm

733
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: just going to back up off him and see if

734
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: like what he can do. I'm just like, above the break,

735
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: calmly steps into and three, yeah, splash and Hazzonia shakes

736
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: his head. You can see him. He's like, he's like,

737
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what to like. He's killing me inside.

738
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a three and he's popping that down.

739
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do?

740
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 6: And he didn't have a ridiculously great shooting night, but

741
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: he's relentless and I think that he reminds me of

742
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: Yannis in that regard.

743
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: He'll get close to the rim.

744
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 6: And yeah, he'll chuck it up and even if it's

745
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 6: if it hits backboard rim and comes off, he's going

746
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 6: right after that ball. And he was shot fifteen for

747
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 6: twenty eight. What am I talking about? It didn't feel

748
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 6: that he started.

749
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: He finished nine of ten.

750
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: Think, yeah, he started.

751
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: That's against the like those.

752
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Two guys took over.

753
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Siakam and Vansley just took over the game when you

754
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: were like, when you were expecting it, he was like, oh,

755
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Lillard's gonna break out of his funk.

756
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 5: Here.

757
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: McCollum did have a hit like two in a row there,

758
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was watching it, going, Okay,

759
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: here come the Blazers. Maybe the Rap's gonna get tired again,

760
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: But it was those two guys being those two guys

761
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: were the best players on.

762
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: The Lillard looked exhausted for the for the Blazers. He

763
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: just looked he just he just couldn't get it going

764
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: last night.

765
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: But time that's a Nick Nurse though. They took the

766
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: ball out.

767
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: Of his But but you know when he's going for

768
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: a three point of that because he kind of stops,

769
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: steps back and gives you a chance to come and defend.

770
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: But I think people still think this is not really

771
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: in his bag, but it is.

772
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Now he's added it.

773
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raps held Lillard to nine points in the

774
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: last four days. This is going to be you know,

775
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: this is a feather in the cap for Nick Nurse's

776
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: coach of the Year chances. Last four days, the Raptors

777
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: have held Lebron, Kawhi and Lillard to a total of

778
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: thirty four points.

779
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: That's good.

780
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: That's good.

781
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: Nine of thirty eight shooting. That's a That's the interesting

782
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: stat to me, like only thirty eight attempts in those

783
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: three games for those three superstars and twenty four percent.

784
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: They're just we were talking about on the right entray

785
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: It's like Nick Nurse is he has determined, like let's

786
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: run two or three guys at the star players, and

787
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 1: let's see any of these other guys try and beat us.

788
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: He's playing pick up defense.

789
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 7: It's like there's two good guys on every pickup basketball

790
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 7: team and everybody double teams them at all times. So

791
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 7: there's gotta be wide open shots. It's a can your

792
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 7: fifty year old man make it from the right wing?

793
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 7: Sometimes yes, sometimes no, live with it, Yeah, you'll live

794
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: with it.

795
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, they pulled out the box and one sometimes yesterday, yep.

796
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: Way to go Nurse.

797
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: I like I like this from William lou At.

798
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's sports talking about this sort of iteration of

799
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: the raps. He said quote that he reminds them of

800
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: the Spurs of yesteryear, where the system is so solid

801
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: that they produce results even without some of their top players.

802
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: There's something there, you know, with Nick Nurse being short

803
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of his guys and they still go out

804
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: on this road trip and they've already insured themselves of

805
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: a winning road trip record no matter what happens.

806
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: In Dallas in the final game.

807
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: You want to impress me, start Stanley Johnson.

808
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 7: Let him if he plays well, then give him the

809
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 7: Coach of the Year right away.

810
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: That's the only one.

811
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 6: It's Coach of the Air in its organization for the

812
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: Air for having these guys come up from the G League. Literally,

813
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 6: Chris Bouchet was a G League MVP. I believe he was.

814
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 6: These guys the G League champs. There's that part of it.

815
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 6: But also Pascal Siakam is veering into superstar and he's

816
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: not there. But it's that's that's I guess on Spurs

817
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: like that. That part of the comparison is different because

818
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: that guy is a star. He's a star in this league.

819
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 6: He's not going away, right.

820
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: That's what the Spurs thought about Kawhi Leonard. Oh buddy.

821
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 7: They built him up, turned him into a star and

822
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 7: seemed like the perfect fit, the ideal Spurs culture guy.

823
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: And then he was gone, Gotta be careful, gotta be careful.

824
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 4: That was the one apparently who Spurs and Pablvic really

825
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: want it too. And miss I said, no, you didn't

826
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: have ya.

827
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Didn't get him, didn't get og, didn't have Yako.

828
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: I got Yaka Pearle teenage mutant Ninja Peardle. I forgot

829
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: about him until watching that.

830
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: That Wolves game last night.

831
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Go yeah, Purdle, I remember you one thing, the final

832
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: thing about Steady Freddy the athletics, Eric Karen, I saw

833
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: him right this morning. This stretch without Lowry will be

834
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: used as a barometer of what Van Vleet can do

835
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: as a starting point guard. As he's poised to hit

836
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: free agency this summer. He's going to be one of

837
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: the best players on the market. He's going to be

838
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: young enough at twenty six to appeal to many of

839
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: the teams that you know, project to have some space

840
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: under the salary cap. Is Van Vliet proven to you

841
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: that he is a starting point guard only? And should

842
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: the Knicks do everything they.

843
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: Possibly can try and get him, I'm like not joking.

844
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean that's the thing that's going to

845
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: be the real challenge for bessiges you how much can

846
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: they pay him? Because Pascal's got his peak one. We

847
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: know that Lowry's got a one year deal extension. So

848
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: is he is he worth well? I mean one hundred

849
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: and twenty one and thirty mil. Someone will probably pay them,

850
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: I know.

851
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Will to go back to the Spurs.

852
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 7: They said they always wanted to pay the next fred

853
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 7: Van Vleet, right, like they will build their guys up,

854
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 7: they'll get really good and then if you offer them

855
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 7: a big deal, sorry, we got to start over from scratch.

856
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: So I mean you're talking one twenty one to thirty mil.

857
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 7: He's ridiculous for but it's also like it's out there.

858
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 7: He's been like a top ten point guard so far

859
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: this season he's.

860
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Killing yeah, right, and like, okay, what did Terry Rozier

861
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: just get?

862
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 6: That was three years sixty fifty.

863
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: Not as crazy as I thought. But you know, I'm

864
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: taking Van Fleet.

865
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten days out of ten over Terry Rozier for sure,

866
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: but it's going to cost more than that. But yeahs

867
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: is he is? He a twenty five million dollars per

868
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: year playing?

869
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: I think so right now in this market. I mean,

870
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: if he can, if he can play this way, the

871
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: entire say, yeah, then yes, he's pretty pretty incredible.

872
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: Fifty eight millions.

873
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, it's really twenty. Yeah, that's why I

874
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: sort of thought I had sixty in my head. So

875
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: a little bit under that, okay, Yeah, uh, Van Vleet's

876
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get more than that. He's gonna get

877
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: plus twenty.

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Speaker 4: What he got one hundred and forty. Didn't he use

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Speaker 4: that right for four somewhere around there? Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not putting I'm not putting Van vleiet

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Speaker 4: on no, but I'm saying he's like contractfully, he's not

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Speaker 4: going to be far off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Final one, guys, this is a fun one.

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Speaker 1: Lakers guard Contavious Caldwell Pope stuck wedge number four last night. Guys,

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Speaker 1: got right here, come on, he so shout out to KCP,

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Speaker 1: but it was it was something else, all right.

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00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

890
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: He stuck it on what maybe a one foot layup attempt,

891
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: very rare. You don't see this often got the you

892
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Speaker 1: got the rebound, he threw it up and it's stuck.

893
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Speaker 1: The left handed shot. Anthony Davis loved it. Couldn't help it.

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00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Laugh from the bench. Are you up or down on

895
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Speaker 1: KCP sticking what I'm calling the worst wedgie of all time?

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Speaker 5: The worst wedgie of all time?

897
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Speaker 6: I remember a day when we all respected every single happened.

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Speaker 2: But you have to rank them. You gotta rank them,

899
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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, there's been ones very similar to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so not you're you're down on this.

902
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't disrespect my wedgies like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because it's KCP too. You know a lot

904
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Speaker 1: of Lakers fans are having fun with it.

905
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Speaker 5: Anthony Davis get a laugh from the bench there.

906
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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you're known as a guy who has trouble

907
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Speaker 7: scoring and you have a wide open layup underneath the

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Speaker 7: hoop and it ends in.

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Speaker 3: A great for us, not ideal for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the team. But it seemed like they were having a laugh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I want to know the physics behind it, because how

913
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Speaker 4: was able to stick in?

914
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what?

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Speaker 1: In his defense, I mean he's he's putting it up softly,

916
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Speaker 1: that's right, you know, he's just trying to get up.

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan Lake on the rim, I haven't bounced around

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Speaker 1: a little bit and dropped.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just just stuck.

921
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Speaker 4: I mean, we just see some of them though they

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Speaker 4: really have to, you know, thudding.

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Speaker 1: That is the beauty of a edge. It can be

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Speaker 1: hard and it can be solved so true. It's like

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Speaker 1: a penis.

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Speaker 2: Why am I right? Am I wrong?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: No, that's not okay.

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Speaker 2: Let's get let's get to tweet.

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Speaker 7: The night.

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Speaker 5: Tweet over the knight. Wow, Twitter, what you got?

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, our colleague actually in Washington fast Freddy Katz

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Speaker 4: does a great job covering the Wizards.

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Speaker 3: From Lately Glee ellis past Freddy Cat.

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Speaker 4: Freddy Kats on his NBA journey's taking him from Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: where he started with the Clipper blog. I believe it's okay,

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Speaker 4: see very briefly in Boston. He had a cup of

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Speaker 4: coffee there and now.

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Speaker 2: It's literally breaking down.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm getting to the rating to the point of reference,

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Speaker 7: which words for column.

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Speaker 4: Because last night he ran into a former player he

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944
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Speaker 4: clearly remembered him because he saw Fred and uh and

945
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Speaker 4: he said this to Fred, and Fred tweeted it. Saw

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Speaker 4: Nis cant in the locker room. He came over to

947
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Speaker 4: me and said, you look good.

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Speaker 5: He used to be chubby.

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Speaker 4: Then he walked away.

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Speaker 6: This is why we all log into Twitter at about

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Speaker 6: Fred Kats body to him A quick flake on that.

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Speaker 3: One, too, Sure, Canter and Cats. I would watch that show.

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Speaker 2: I sort of like you know I was.

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Speaker 1: I was always a fan of your tweet of the week,

955
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Speaker 1: but I do like this you get some different flavors

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Speaker 1: where we switch it up here and every guy gets

957
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Speaker 1: to go at tweeter to night.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes when you see the tweet come through, you go, yeah, great,

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Speaker 4: goot one in the can. Then you read it back

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Speaker 4: to yourself, you oh, yeah, wasn't that good?

961
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Speaker 3: And the harsh light of the morning exactly you do that.

962
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

963
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Speaker 1: You feel like the type of guy who sees the tweet,

964
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Speaker 1: goes yep, done, closes the computer in the morning.

965
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Speaker 4: Then you've got to try to build out the story

966
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Speaker 4: to it. You know, like I was giving your friends

967
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Speaker 4: bye idea and I'm like, you know, because I'm trying

968
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Speaker 4: to I'm trying to paint the peak chat.

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Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. I love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, we definitely need some rankings for muscle Watch

971
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Speaker 6: is well documented for the players, but we need it

972
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Speaker 6: for NBA writers as well. Fred katz zach Low lost

973
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Speaker 6: twenty pounds?

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Speaker 5: Who else? Anybody else?

975
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Speaker 3: So top my head, No, that's why we That's why

976
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Speaker 3: we need the info.

977
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Speaker 5: Yeah, top five sounds good.

978
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Speaker 2: No, we need Yeah, basketball writers reference.

979
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Speaker 3: Basketball Writer's reference is great.

980
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Speaker 7: There there's like a media fits which league media Fits,

981
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Speaker 7: which is very similar to the League fits. So I see,

982
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Speaker 7: I see no reason why they shouldn't be a Basketball

983
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Speaker 7: Raiders reference. There should be everything that there is for

984
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Speaker 7: stats for the NBA should happen for Raiders.

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Speaker 2: last day's game, it's a it'sday, It's Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday's game.

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Speaker 1: It was the Raps Blazers game. As we said, Blazers

1018
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: were fevered by three and a half. I was convinced

1019
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: that Blazers are going to win.

1020
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Speaker 2: So was Trey.

1021
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Speaker 1: We were wrong passing League get the win, passant leave

1022
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Speaker 1: five and four on the month of November.

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Speaker 2: Trey and I four and five.

1024
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Speaker 1: So it is, Kate, what's our game today? On a

1025
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Speaker 1: Thursday night where there's obviously not a ton of games.

1026
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Speaker 6: Pick from nationally televised game on TNT the Dallas Mavericks

1027
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 6: and Kristaps Porzingis going back to his former tea go.

1028
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1029
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 6: The New York Knickerbuckers host the MAVs and are seven

1030
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: and a half point underdogs.

1031
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: To the Dallas Mavericks. So if you take the MAVs,

1032
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 5: you gotta win by eight or more. You take the Knicks,

1033
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 5: you can lose.

1034
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 6: By seven or lag Oh my god, if they lose

1035
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 6: by seven and a half, it's a tie for all involved.

1036
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: Here we go. Who are you taking?

1037
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: And remember the MAVs recently lost to the Knicks in Dallas.

1038
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean, does that mean anything?

1039
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: Does that mean I want to give my little smack around?

1040
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: Then again, you know, Mavericks beat the Knicks by twenty

1041
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: five tonight.

1042
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: And Fizzdale doesn't even survive the night.

1043
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: Well would be fired at halftime, right right right, right,

1044
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: right right right.

1045
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: It's tough. Ah, that line, that line. Maybe this would

1046
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: be a great opportunity for your RJ.

1047
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: Barrett to try and try and get back in conversation.

1048
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: If he has a if he has a monster game.

1049
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: He wants the dunk on Porzingis.

1050
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: You're right.

1051
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 7: If you dunk on Porzingis, people will call him the

1052
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 7: rookie of the Year.

1053
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Immedia. You're probably right about that. Go ahead, if anybody

1054
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: I got No.

1055
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: Five on it, give me the mass.

1056
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm going MAVs as well. I don't think this is

1057
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: the bottom for the Knicks.

1058
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 7: They're going further down, so losing the christabs porzingis and

1059
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 7: his return would pile on.

1060
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: So I'm going maps.

1061
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, be careful. I mean, you don't want to lose

1062
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: those Knicks tickets.

1063
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 3: Against them once.

1064
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that worked out for you.

1065
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just yeah, yeah.

1066
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Speaker 5: You believe those points are going to factor in next.

1067
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a thing. That's a thing.

1068
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: That's a close.

1069
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 5: But that's that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, give me the next, give me

1071
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Speaker 1: the next plus seven and a half.

1072
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Speaker 2: We're gonna maybe we're gonna tyke.

1073
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Speaker 4: What was that seven half?

1074
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go, buddy.

1075
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Speaker 5: Take your time.

1076
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Speaker 3: Atage, take your time.

1077
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Speaker 6: We gotta get this podcast to an hour today. Come on,

1078
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Speaker 6: let's go a contractual obligation.

1079
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Speaker 5: This podcast needs to.

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Speaker 1: Be all right, all right, all right, our eyes he

1081
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Speaker 1: takes twenty minutes to the summer, stop talking and let

1082
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Speaker 1: me you know, go all right, I will stop taking.

1083
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Speaker 2: Your ginger shot.

1084
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Speaker 4: The team tonight to win. The cover will be the

1085
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Speaker 4: team from.

1086
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Speaker 3: I'll get a quick drink here.

1087
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Speaker 2: Where's my beard?

1088
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Speaker 4: Where's my beard?

1089
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Speaker 3: I bleed blue and orange?

1090
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Speaker 2: Give me the nies.

1091
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Speaker 1: So much, guys, Dahlee and I have the next plus

1092
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Speaker 1: seven and a half. We got we got traded task

1093
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Speaker 1: taking the Mavericks on the road. One more a little

1094
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Speaker 1: side bed here so we can send some money around

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Speaker 1: on cash app over under Porzingis, I'm gonna set the line.

1096
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Speaker 2: I don't know it. I don't know what Vegas has,

1097
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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna set the line.

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Speaker 1: Points score tonight at twenty five and a half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm under as well.

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Speaker 5: Pat, you think it's fun.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good line, right, No, you know, I

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Speaker 2: know he's not scoring that much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a little over eighteen per.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, all right, right right, I had twenty eight

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Speaker 4: against them night last week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, per like a kid. Okay, you guys are going

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Speaker 5: I'll go over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, me too, I'll go just over. Let's hear

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Speaker 2: from you guys.

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Speaker 1: Tweet at us at no Dunk's Ink for both tonight's pickup.

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Speaker 2: Game and what Porzingis does in MSG.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait for the MSG crowd this wo

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Speaker 1: It really could be like, you know, I called the

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Speaker 1: other one in Dallas their super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: This is the real super Bowl on TNT with Porzingis

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Speaker 2: in their barn. This should be fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if it's a blowout, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun because you're gonna have the Knicks fans going crazy,

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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be shots of Dolan, and there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be shots of Mills and Perry or what.

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Speaker 2: Are they doing in Fizzdale freaking out. It's gonna be funny.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for joining us today. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be under an hour task. I'm sorry, remember to

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take it out.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, And just wanted to give a

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Speaker 6: great Michael Grange who was winning Sportswriter of the Year

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Speaker 6: today at the Sports Media Awards in the great country

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Speaker 6: of Canada.

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Speaker 2: To go Grange, Brace the day people.

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Speaker 8: You could stay oh every day and and you happy

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Speaker 8: every minute. It's been so long that you're the funa

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