WEBVTT - Ep. 54: This One Time, At Dolphin Camp. . .

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<v Speaker 1>The first ten minutes were tiring. I was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>give up, but my mom was yelling, don't give up.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep railing it in. Can you imagine how big it

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<v Speaker 1>would be if it wasn't in all that cold cold water.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like the climax to a horror film with

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<v Speaker 1>fishing gear at it in, come out in the pulpit

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<v Speaker 1>with a popping rod, and it's like it's dolphins. God

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<v Speaker 1>damn it. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Good morning, degenerate anglers,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that overdoes it

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<v Speaker 1>at Taco Bell and then calls DIBs on top punk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe Surmelli a Miles Nulty, and I'm I'm relatively

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<v Speaker 1>certain that I have not eaten at a Taco Bell

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<v Speaker 1>since I passed the legal drinking age. Get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>almost positive that that's the case. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's like a legitimate correlation there, or if

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<v Speaker 1>they have anything to do with each other, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's how long it's been. I'm also struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm like killing time right now. Dude, I have

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<v Speaker 1>I have, I don't know that I have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot to add to that setup. If I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna guess that your theme is farting or

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<v Speaker 1>black sheep. I don't know. It could be the nacho

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<v Speaker 1>cheese chloopa, which I still enjoy now. It's neither of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, though it could have been either one. Either

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<v Speaker 1>one could have worked. The theme I'm going with this

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<v Speaker 1>week is is fish camp. And to clarify, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about swank lodges right, Like you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>both been blessed with the opportunity to stay at some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty choice lodges over the years. But I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>those trips with a handful of your boys, like all

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<v Speaker 1>packed into a shitty motel room or a rental cabin

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<v Speaker 1>or a house. Right, nobody's cooking for you. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>there to be pampered. You're there to fish and live

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<v Speaker 1>in your own filth for a few days. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the difference in our experiences most of mine have

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<v Speaker 1>involved tents, not permanent structures like everything. When I think

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<v Speaker 1>of fish camp, it's always either just sleeping out in

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt or in a tent. But I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I do love fish camp. Yeah, me too. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love camping camping, so that that's why that varies. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this idea because I recently had one of

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<v Speaker 1>those trips, and sadly it had been a while. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>like for many of us listening, those trips are getting

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<v Speaker 1>harder and harder to pull off, right because, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one friend you could rely on to vomit in the

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<v Speaker 1>family room and make you forfeiture, security deposit is now

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<v Speaker 1>like running the children to ballet practice. Hold on, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that's another benefit to camping. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no security deposit. You don't have to worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I'm just gonna put that out. You got me there.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also not a shower, which is important to me. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that guy, he just doesn't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy that doesn't end up fishing on

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<v Speaker 1>day one anymore. You know, he's too hungovers. So such

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<v Speaker 1>as life. But before I tell you about my recent

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<v Speaker 1>crashpad adventure, what was your favorite fish campaign? I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've been on many. That's a hard one, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots like I kind of want to wax

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<v Speaker 1>poetic on on the oh the days when I was

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<v Speaker 1>running Spike Camps as a guide. But I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I think I'm gonna focus on There was

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<v Speaker 1>this this golden run in my late twenties that happen

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<v Speaker 1>every year. I would quit my winner job whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was like six weeks before guide season would start, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just packed the truck, I grabbed the dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd go. And there was this crew of three

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<v Speaker 1>good fishing buddies who would join for at least part

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes all of that trip. And I don't know. We

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<v Speaker 1>did that for like I want to say, five straight years,

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<v Speaker 1>just just exploring all over the Mountain West. We'd like

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<v Speaker 1>find new places we'd never fished every year, but we'd

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<v Speaker 1>also go back to favorite places. And it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was fantastic. It was it was like, uh, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a golden time, right, and and you'd have these I

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<v Speaker 1>know you have this right. We'd we'd run into what

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<v Speaker 1>I like to call single serving friends. When you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, right and there are people you have no

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<v Speaker 1>desire to stay in touch with, but they make those

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<v Speaker 1>stories of those nights or days or however long he's

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<v Speaker 1>been with them, and and you and your crew can

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<v Speaker 1>can always talk about remember that dude we ran into

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<v Speaker 1>in that parking lot and he gave us to that one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, try this bait, and then we wound

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<v Speaker 1>up drinking the hoops that he made in his bath

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<v Speaker 1>and you get to hold onto those even though you're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna see those people again. And so we had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those, and we caught a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>big fish. So those that's my favorite fish camp memory, smattering,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think my best ever, which yours is better.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was in Louisiana, and for transparency, it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually an industry gig with Sims and Coasta. It just

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<v Speaker 1>happened that all the people they invited were like really

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<v Speaker 1>good friends of mine that I fished with. That's nice separately, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It just turned out that way, um. And they rented

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<v Speaker 1>a house sight unseen in the Lower ninth Ward, not

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<v Speaker 1>too far from the French Quarter. And it was weird

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<v Speaker 1>because the place was immaculate and totally renovated, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the house next door was partially burned down. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a very that's very New Orleans. It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>odd thing, um. And we would just get lit up.

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<v Speaker 1>We caught a bunch of tuna, huge redfish, grilled food.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in the neighborhood like died of an overdose out front.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just good hangs, just wild times in that house, Uh, Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>it coming on. You know what else I hear is

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<v Speaker 1>a wild time, Joe, tell me catching fish on the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen fishing truro, which I just did yesterday. Actually it

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<v Speaker 1>is a wild time and thanks for bringing that up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know right the truro is thirteens version of

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<v Speaker 1>like the very popular paddle tail swim bait right now,

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<v Speaker 1>It's what everybody has one um and thus far I've

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<v Speaker 1>only thrown them for Smalley's, but I appreciate the design

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<v Speaker 1>very much right there, not uh straight copycat baits like

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<v Speaker 1>other companies have pumped out. The body has three joints

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<v Speaker 1>that allow it like flutters on the paws, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. I know it does this. And they have

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<v Speaker 1>um like a pretty snazzy keel design that keeps them horizontal.

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<v Speaker 1>They do they do uh croppy and panfish like to

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<v Speaker 1>grab the tail and shake it, but they can't. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the hook. Just in case you're wondering that

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<v Speaker 1>only the bass in the northerns do that. Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>forget though that the part of the reason that all

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<v Speaker 1>these fish want to consume them is that they're slathered

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<v Speaker 1>in donkey sauce. Donkey sauce, which we like to slather

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<v Speaker 1>all over this show as much as possible because we

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<v Speaker 1>love thirteen and they sponsor us. Anyway, you were all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, I think along your theme is because you

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<v Speaker 1>recently spent some time in a modern day fish camp,

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<v Speaker 1>a modern day version of fish camp, right and and

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<v Speaker 1>I know all about this, I know where it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were with, But why don't you tell

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<v Speaker 1>all of all the people out there? Give him the story? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was in Ohio and I was there to

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<v Speaker 1>film the final episode of doss Boat season three, right

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<v Speaker 1>and now we were chasing some walleyes doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>cat fishing. But we rented this monster of a house

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<v Speaker 1>with a pool game room. They had freaking asteroids, pool table,

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<v Speaker 1>the works. Right now. Granted it was old, like the

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<v Speaker 1>whole place looked like it had been pieced together in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties. But for like five straight days I

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<v Speaker 1>got to hang with some really fishy people. My old

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<v Speaker 1>buddy and uh, a friend of me will say of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Ross Robertson was one of them, Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was hanging with with dudes I consider legends.

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<v Speaker 1>Photographer Brian Gregson, he's our boy. Filmmaker are a body

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<v Speaker 1>who is a good friend of yours. Both of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys I consider good friends, and I'm lucky to have

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<v Speaker 1>known them for as long as you have. And uh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you, all right. I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I am very happy. I know you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. I know that good, good things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am pretty jealous. I know it's also true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not. I'm not jealous of the walleye.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys couldn't have. Fine, you and you and Ross

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<v Speaker 1>can go have your walleye, but the hanging out and

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<v Speaker 1>fish can't have the bullshit and the good people the

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<v Speaker 1>cat fishing. I'm jealous all that. I am confident, however,

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<v Speaker 1>that good things are going to come out of that trip,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I wasn't there. Yes, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you were missed. We we poured one or five out

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Um. And then in your honor, I set

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<v Speaker 1>up the mics and decided to channel some of that

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling gold into segments for the show, right, so let's move.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's move into smooth moves where you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>we let guides, captains, anybody really in the fishing industry

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<v Speaker 1>these days bitch about dumb or weird things their clients

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<v Speaker 1>have done right. And this will be the first installment

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear from what I'm calling the dost Boat Ohio Sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>And since he's the director of DOS Boat, we'll kick

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<v Speaker 1>it off with the aforementioned are a bat Why so

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<v Speaker 1>sitting with me here in Ohio, UM while filming DOS

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<v Speaker 1>Boats Season three filmmaker extraordinary are a BIATI? You said

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<v Speaker 1>you just woke up from a nap. You were napping downstairs?

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<v Speaker 1>Was not napping? Because we're working so well, I trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. We're between things happening, so you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble in this um. It's kind of like a flophouse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd call it that we're in. Yeah, we're in this

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<v Speaker 1>really bizarre little beach house and we well we I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been on the road now for two weeks, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been seeing what we're doing. We go super early. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a bed weight and so one of our

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<v Speaker 1>models is, uh, you know, you sleep when you can, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was just, yeah, catching up on a

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<v Speaker 1>little little and to wake yourself up. You've got yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a cold bush light, just a little bush light for

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<v Speaker 1>the farmers. So I'm looking at the notes about the guest.

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<v Speaker 1>My producer gave me it. Since here, you pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>invented fly fishing videos, Is that accurate? Yeah? Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just just invented I think videos in general. Right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>moving pictures, was like, we should make these pictures move

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<v Speaker 1>But no, seriously, man, like you you have done so

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<v Speaker 1>much on the video side, I mean, like pioneering things.

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<v Speaker 1>You also a fishing guide for a while, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a fishing guide growing up, um through high school

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<v Speaker 1>and college. But you know, we were kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the right place at the right time, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of which is a lot of luck, right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of you know, really surfing, skateboard, skiing, snowboarding,

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<v Speaker 1>like had gone through these media like explosions and media growth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so fly fishing you know, took place in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places where those activities happened. Therefore a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were inspired by that content. And just so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't just shoot fly fit, you shoot all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things. You're not just like the fly dude, right, Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we that's kind of where we cut our teeth. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say we, you know I have to. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't just say I because I always worked with so

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<v Speaker 1>many really great people. Um, but you know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of young fishing guides who grew up skiing

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<v Speaker 1>and skateboarding and you know that stuff and watching this media,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, why don't we have that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't why why don't we have content that's more

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<v Speaker 1>like lifestyle based in fun and exciting, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta remember fly fishing back then was like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of tweet right yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 1>a river runs through and I just come out and

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh my god, this is amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it started to show this like other side and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like so yeah. So there was actually an explosion right

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<v Speaker 1>when we started making content. Um, it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You have like probably six to ten different people with

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<v Speaker 1>the same vision and they all started making content within

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<v Speaker 1>like a year or two. Yeah, and then that blew

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<v Speaker 1>up into like tom By the Drake magazine. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many people making content almost overnight. Well

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<v Speaker 1>so many it was like ten people. But that they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have this event and let's let's make the five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of fly fishing video. What Tom had come from

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<v Speaker 1>Powder magazine, right, So it's it's basically we just mimicked

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<v Speaker 1>what what you're seeing in the other sports. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well dude, seriously, mean, I've been watching your stuff for many,

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<v Speaker 1>many years, and it's it's very cool that like you

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<v Speaker 1>like you spend today pointing a camera at me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, here's the thing I never thought would happen

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<v Speaker 1>with man, But this has been this has been a

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<v Speaker 1>very fun week. Um. But I mean, so we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>smooth moves here, you know what that's all about? You

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<v Speaker 1>could you could throw a smooth move from something you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen while while film while guiding. You could go a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different directions. So I'm very I'm curious because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, like what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen here. But the floor is yours. Man, make us laugh,

0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.440
<v Speaker 1>make us WinCE, make us vomit. I don't know, so

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<v Speaker 1>lots of stories. I think the one that I have

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<v Speaker 1>not told before that like exclusive I'm thinking through how

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell it and be very sensitive to different

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<v Speaker 1>people involved. But basically, when I was a young fishing

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<v Speaker 1>guide in the Roaring Fork Valley, um, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just coming out of like a river runs through it.

0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And so fly fishing had ballooned almost overnight into this

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<v Speaker 1>activity that like everybody had to do when they're on vacation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you've got you know, everyone's like, wow, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be We're gonna be in the mountains. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have to go rafting, and we have to go horseback riding,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to go fly fishing and like these

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<v Speaker 1>old boxes and so we did a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that, and so a byproduct is you just

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<v Speaker 1>got a ton of characters all the time from all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country, over the world, just tons of transient

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<v Speaker 1>people trying fly fishing. So one morning we had some

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<v Speaker 1>folks from the South and they showed up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>heavy accents, and they wanted to try out fly fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had a gentleman who owned probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest NASCAR race courses or like race facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to name the exact one, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the South, and there's you know there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some funny movies made about that course the track, but

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, anyway, we had this. We had this gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>and uh he called me boy. You know, He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey boy, because I mean I was twenty yeah. Nice

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<v Speaker 1>and he's he was an older gentleman. He's like, hey boys, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you come over here and not help me?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I set up this flywer thing over here?

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<v Speaker 1>And like super nice guy but uh, you know, very

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<v Speaker 1>very southern um And so I had these had him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had his like his brother m a

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody. We're fishing get him set up, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>downstream helping his brother and he's he's hooting and hollering

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<v Speaker 1>at me and yell and he's like he's very excited

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, and he's motioning and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey boy, you gotta a dot. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>really hear him and through like the moment, like like

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<v Speaker 1>the rumble of the river, and I'm like, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of I'm like, what do you like? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? What? I'm like, what's up? But he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you need? He's like, boy, He's like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get your net ready, it's coming down. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>grab your neck, get ready, and I'm like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what's happening. And he's kicking and he's shuffling

0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's moving around. He's like, Okay, here it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming down, and he's really animated. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and I have no idea what's happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>this there's all this mud and you know, bugs and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff flowing down the stream towards us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like fifty maybe down below him, and I start

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<v Speaker 1>to see like something, there's like a bunch of color

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<v Speaker 1>coming through the water, and um, this big pink shape

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<v Speaker 1>starts to kind of emerge, and I thought, maybe, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's dropped something. Maybe he drops his water bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. So anyway, I have my net

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<v Speaker 1>ready and this big pink object flows through and I

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<v Speaker 1>dip my net and grabbing come up and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a big vanny mustard. I mean, like just a baby

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<v Speaker 1>arm of a of a dildo, and I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of takes like four D batteries, Like oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got and stuff like this is a big one

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<v Speaker 1>that's like three oh one level. You don't buy that

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<v Speaker 1>when your first time, and was super bummed when they

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<v Speaker 1>lost it right there, like it wasn't cheap and so

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm standing there. Wait before you go on, though,

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<v Speaker 1>did he legitimately think you think he had a fish?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he he? No? I think he was Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was stuck in some rocks by his feet, and

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<v Speaker 1>he knew like he could see it, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about what he had found. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't on his rod. He wasn't. No, that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been amazing, got it. I imagine I was imagining it

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<v Speaker 1>until we clare Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I should have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have died. I should have just lied and

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<v Speaker 1>said he actually hooked it. No, he no, he was

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about this and he didn't want it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get it and wanted me to net it

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<v Speaker 1>and like didn't want it to escape. Right. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I he's still really excited. He's like, oh boy, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see that thing. And you know, I like walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to him and I showed it to him and

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<v Speaker 1>it's sitting in the net and he's looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, boy, could you imagine how big

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<v Speaker 1>it would be if it wasn't in all that cold,

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<v Speaker 1>cold water. So then uh so, anyway, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>his prize and he was shaking it around and stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what he did is, you know, he'd shove

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<v Speaker 1>in the top of his waiters and he was walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>And so throughout the course of the day, we're walking

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<v Speaker 1>along this river trail and there's a ton of people

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<v Speaker 1>from Aspen, you know, like look like little yoga people

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<v Speaker 1>running around, bikers and like all the beautiful people are

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<v Speaker 1>like out recreating and being healthy. Everyone's super nice, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so as you're walking, as they're coming by, they're like, oh, hey, boys,

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<v Speaker 1>how's everything going. He catching new fish today? And every

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<v Speaker 1>single one he would be like, yeah, well got this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd reach in and tuck it and pull it

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<v Speaker 1>out and and shake this big pig dog around and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and I was like, I was like, dude, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna they're gonna call the cops. So anyway, that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>my Did you get a good tip that day for

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<v Speaker 1>that net jab? Just the tip, just the tip boom,

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<v Speaker 1>We're out a segment done right there. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is true at the fish camp I mentioned earlier we

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<v Speaker 1>like to fish as one stretch of river that paralleled

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty busy trucking highway. You couldn't see the river

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<v Speaker 1>for most of it, but it was right there. You

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<v Speaker 1>could hear while you're fishing, could hear the trucks going by,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. On more than one occasion, I found sex

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<v Speaker 1>toys circling in an eddy like right beside brown trout

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<v Speaker 1>sipping delicate mayflies. It was. I haven't used that anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but the metaphor always struck me as potent. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up in something I write one day, I know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta say I'm a little I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that took us this long to run into a

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<v Speaker 1>dildo related story and smooth moves like that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was inevitable. But well, that one was a ringer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just it, right. It's not like we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard others. It's not like nobody else has has thrown

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<v Speaker 1>one out there, but it's mostly just been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I found one, well, like you know, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you found one who hasn't, or you get the dudes

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.000
<v Speaker 1>who are like my buddy rigged one and caught a

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<v Speaker 1>fish with it, which, in my opinion, that's a cry

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<v Speaker 1>for attention, like you're trying too hard when you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have I've already given my opinion on penis shape

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<v Speaker 1>lures solidly opposed. We don't need to revisit that was

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<v Speaker 1>ironically though, we're going too later, whether you know it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but just ironically great, well, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>that to look forward to on our a story. Of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I like that there the image that six

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<v Speaker 1>of me is the guy parading around holding onto that

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<v Speaker 1>thing in an as spin. That's that's what I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>about that story, is that the backdrop and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he treated it. Hopefully I'll be able to parade

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<v Speaker 1>another victory trophy around Bozeman this week when I beat

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<v Speaker 1>your ass in that weekly competition we call fish news

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>fish news. That escalated quickly quick bit of sad kind

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of bummery news before we get started here, So we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't you're horning in on my territory, Smellie, sad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I own the sad news in fish news, not you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my that's my world. Sorry, how dare how dare?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, without running it by first anyway, So we

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<v Speaker 1>just covered ho Jack's Bar and grill, and that's my bar,

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.440
<v Speaker 1>remember dirty Wing Joint in New York, in New York's

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>mud Shark territory. So several people hit me up to

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<v Speaker 1>alert me that according to Google, it's closed permanently. Oh no,

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 1>another another COVID casualty I that I could not figure

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>out why it was closed. Um, but so I really

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go there, right And their website is still active,

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>but it appears not to have been updated since very

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 1>late last winter. So um. You know. We also had

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<v Speaker 1>a guy right in and say that was a disservice

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.119
<v Speaker 1>because like those wings will like clear you out, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like you eat too many of

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<v Speaker 1>those particular wings. So I don't know what the real

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<v Speaker 1>story is, but we may never find out. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought i'd bring that up case in case anybody

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<v Speaker 1>was car tripping across the country right now, like headed

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<v Speaker 1>there for those wings, turn around, okay, go somewhere else. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and if anyone has another suggestion for good wings and

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 1>perhaps a good garbage plate, which they had at ho

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Jack's up there in the Salmon Belt, let us know

0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the garbage plate, you know, you have

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.880
<v Speaker 1>something similar in Hawaii. I think it's your plate lunch

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>where they just take like burgers and dogs and put

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>them on a plate and then smother them with like

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:06.439
<v Speaker 1>gravy and all kinds of let's not playing for bigger

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 1>genre food. You're thinking about the Loco Moco continue, That's

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking. Anyway, They had garbage plates at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the hoe Jacks, so I have to find

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<v Speaker 1>a new place for them. Also, we definitely had some

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 1>interest in the rosary bead split shot stick from that one.

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 1>That one kind of hit right, so all I can say,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right, we'll we'll work on it, we'll, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see um. But we even had a few great suggestions,

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<v Speaker 1>like like one dude said the cross should be a

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<v Speaker 1>snag hook waited snag hook, not our and jarn. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had a fan reach out on instant he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm a pastor and a religious authority and

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<v Speaker 1>I approved that sticker. So that's like a ringing in

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<v Speaker 1>dar right there. So I like the one guy who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in and said, uh, you know, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to get an actual Catholic to do the art on that,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise I'm going to be offended. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty funny. Well, if anybody out

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<v Speaker 1>there is a nun or a deacon that happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be crafty, crafty with sharpie, I'm sure you're I'm sure

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to Bent and you write in so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. We'll see see if we can make that work.

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope. So, I hope it comes together. And Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, we have some some actual business to

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<v Speaker 1>attend to, because it is time for fish News. Just

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<v Speaker 1>so you're all aware, this is a competition. Joe and

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know what stories the other person is bringing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are competing for I would say the adoration

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<v Speaker 1>of our our Caesar, shall we call him the audio Engineer? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>This week, Joe is up first. Uh. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna back clean up. So what do you got, Joe? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So a bunch of you find folks forward to this

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<v Speaker 1>story along, and I thank you for that because it's

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<v Speaker 1>giving me a reason to ship on trolling, which we

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<v Speaker 1>all know is something I really enjoy personally. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>by now, I'm sure a lot of you have caught

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<v Speaker 1>wind of the ne State record King Salmon caught in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>But seriously, I don't think I've ever gotten this much

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of a kick out of a state record story before. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's what happened, and we're gonna we're gonna reverse

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<v Speaker 1>engineer a little bit, all right. So on Saturday August seven,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old Louise Martinez boarded ice breaker Charters in Luddington, Michigan,

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>with his family. By seven thirty am, Louise had put

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a forty seven point eight six pound king salmon on deck,

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>breaking the previous state record of forty six point zero

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>six pounds, which had stood since nineteen seventy eight. A right,

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 1>so old record, right, yeah, like double his eight Yeah,

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. So this catch, of course just totally thrilled

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 1>d n R. Because the fish was in really great shape, right,

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>They got great samples from it to study, and according

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to those guys in the story, like this really says

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>some pretty positive good things about the hell of the

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>salmon population in Lake Michigan, and in particular their food source.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Right to grow in that big they gotta be eating good.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So it was it was like sort of all positive

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>this catch, right. So those are those are the basic facts.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>But what makes this story awesome. Is Louise himself right?

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<v Speaker 1>The first time the kid ever bought a fishing license

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<v Speaker 1>was the night before this trip, Okay, so he did

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<v Speaker 1>not angle, and the story says that this was the

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 1>first time he was ever salmon fishing. But I think

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>there's like some miscommunication here because I wouldn't be surprised

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 1>based on how they're playing up that that he only

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<v Speaker 1>bought the license the night before this might have been

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>his first time fishing period. So there's a little conflict

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in there, but regards maybe like he went when he

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>was a kid before he had to biolys could be yes, right,

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So he just bought this license Friday night on the

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>boat Saturday. So in the shot back of the dock,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll post in my Instagram story this week, Luise

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>looks like he could kind of not give a shit, okay,

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>And dare I say, like, be happier in front of

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a computer with a headset on than fishing. Now, listen

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 1>before you jump on me and say, well that's not fair. Okay.

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Here are some quotes from Louise from the story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>first one ringer, I honestly fell asleep the whole way

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>until my mom said, you're up, and I was like what.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>They handed me the fishing pole. Fishing pole, and I

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>started reeling the thing in. So that was the first one.

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Right away. I was like, oh, he was sleeping. They

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>were trolling. There we go next quote. The first ten

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>minutes were tiring. My arms were sore. I was ready

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to give up, but my mom was yelling, don't give up.

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Keep reeling it in. Right, Okay, these are yeah, and

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>then here comes the clincher. The fish started to jump

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the water. You could see it, and they

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>were like excited because it was huge. I was like,

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 1>it's just a fish. There's nothing special about it. At

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>least that's what I thought. So people people are comparing

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>this to winning the lottery, which I get and I

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>would say is accurate. Right, you bought a license to

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>night before you go out on a boat and like

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>bang state record King. I just think it's funny because

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like the gravity of the situation, I think is is

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>really kind of lost on him, you know what I mean.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like, yeah, cool, okay, Like I don't know,

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>imagine fish, Yeah, Like I imagine that this is how

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>like Phil would behave in this situation and I mean

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like impossible to wake up that morning, like I don't

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>want to go fishing, sleeping in the wagon Queen family truck,

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 1>stir on the way to the dock, and then just

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>curling up on the bench seat of the boat and

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>going back to sleep. Um anyway, So final thought for debate,

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>because this story illustrates something I've always thought very well. Right, So,

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the person and who should get credit

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for breaking the forty three year old record is the

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>captain of the boat, not the guy that reeled it in.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Because in trolling scenarios, especially like this, where clients are

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>just being handed the rod, the boat is catching the fish,

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the captain is finding the fish and choosing the lords.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And personally, like I rag on trolling all the time.

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>It's not that I don't ever do it, but the

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>only time I feel like I'm part of the victory

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>when trolling is when I'm actively working and like setting

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that spread like intuna trolling, I want to be dirty

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, rigging the vally who and deciding how

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>far back this will go and how far back that

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>will go, so that when something gets bit like you

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like your intuition and knowledge helped make that happen, right,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>But just recently so where we were filming dost Boat

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>in Ohio with my boy Ross Robertson, and he put

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>us on some really nice wall eyes he always does.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I credit him with the biggest walleye I ever reeled in,

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>was with him years ago, super dialed super out and

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that so much. But he he noticed that bite,

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, he grabbed that rod, he

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>handed it to me. I reeled and followed instructions. You know,

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>so nice fish. But did I catch that fish? I

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think I did. Like if that had been a

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>record fish Ross caught that fish. I just I just

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>reeled it in. So happened to be holding the rod,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and I just happened to the rod. So not taking

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>anything away from Luis, although maybe like a tiny bit

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>just because it's funny, because I don't think he wanted.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he wanted to be there anyway, Okay,

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I just always get a chuckle out

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of these trolled records in a lot of these scenarios

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, man, you just happen to be there,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly right. So we're just the warm body on

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the crank that's correct, which which requires very little skill,

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like maybe a little bit of endurance, Like, oh, you

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>had to reel it in for ten minutes. I'm so

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry for you, but like there's no skill there. Yeah,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, and I'm not taking away I mean

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a forty seven pound king that's going to huge, right,

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a huge king. But even then, I mean, when

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you're in a charter boat scenario, you know you got

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>at least a captain maybe a mate too, doing the

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing, telling you, like real slower, real faster, moving

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>over here, point your ride this way, do this, do that,

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and as long as you were listening and following instructions,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>chances are you're gonna land it, you know. So I

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>just think about that stuff when you know there's so

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>many guys out there they're like really chasing something that

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>would kill to be the guy that that has the state. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think right now this is a great moment

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>for me to admit that I saw this story in

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>about eighty different places and I never read it. Oh

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and and this was like, I'm so glad you did,

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>because I looked at that I was like, this is

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing here, There's no there there, and I'm gonna

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm admitting that I'm wrong right now. I

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>want to apologize to all the listeners who sent it

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, like, dude, you gotta check this out. And

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I just made an assumption that was totally incorrect, that

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this was not like record cool. Well do we skip

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>over a lot of record stories, a lot of roodcasts.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We do fish news. There's some kind of record horseshit

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>every week. Most of them is like guy went caught it,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I assumed. So when you never read it,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm so glad you did, because this those quotes

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>were absolutely old, and I can only imagine. I haven't

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>dug into it, but I can only imagine the anger

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and the victual and the fighting going on between people

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>who are like that kid didn't deserve that fish. I've

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>been drying my whole I can only imagine. And that's

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>what makes for a lot of our good banter. Right.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>We talk a lot about disagreements between anglers, or factis angling, right,

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Like fishing culture just has all these layers of confrontation,

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>some of which are healthy and fun. Like our constant

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>good natured walleye bashing. Others are more annoying, like the

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>superiority complex that fly fish. It's even the ones who

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>suck like really cling to as an entity, and and

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>others are actually destructive, like the obnoxious social media battles.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Right that we talked about that. But there's one thing

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that brings most of us together. Dolphins. Just about everybody

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>loves a dolphin, and and why wouldn't you dolphins? You can,

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you can go ahead and do that, but you're you're

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in the minority because dolphins are like smart, curious. I'm

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>spending two US on gas and I'm off sure. I'm like,

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there's ship busted everywhere there. I'm on the bow, I'm

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>on the pulpit, I'm out on the pulpit with a

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>popping rod, and it's like it's dolphins. God damn it. Anyway,

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, God, that's okay. You can have that opinion,

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>but you're a getting I think you will recognize that

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in the minority. I mean, dolphins are like aquatic puppies.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Just about everybody like, like, there are a few people

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>out there who hate puppies, and I think they're equal

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to the dolphin. Haters. If I had to guess, I personally,

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with you because I've seen I've seen

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>lots of dolphins in my life. I've swam with dolphins,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I've surfed with dolphins. I've I've watched them ride god

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>knows how many bow wakes. I've even had them steel

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>fish off my line, and they still make me happy

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>every single time. And I think that most people can

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 1>agree with that. Do you ever see one with your

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>kids on the beach and you're like, look, kids, there's

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a dolphin but they don't ever see it because it's

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>only rolling every once in a while, and like it

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>goes from cute to like angry. I'm like, look right there,

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>keep looking, don't there was? Did you see it? And

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>they're like, now, I didn't see anything, Like just sorry,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you're getting me going on dolphins and he were. At

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>some point, We're gonna have to dig into your dolphin hate.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>But I'm still confident that you were in the minority.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But I recently learned something about dolphins that I never

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>knew before. Are you familiar with mud ring feeding? Uh? Yes,

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that's where they get up real shallow right different, But

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll cover we'll cover off on that one too,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like that's they're gonna rein. But I think of like

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a tactic. They still okay exactly, And and and

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>dolphins have all kinds of creative and interesting feeding techniques.

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>They've come because they're smart. And I'm sure you've seen video.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And the one that you're talking about, uh, is called

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>strand feeding. Right when you get this whole group of

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>dolphins and they push bait fish upshallow and they actually

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>create their own bow wave that throws bait fish up

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>onto the sand, and then the dolphins throw themselves up

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>just enough on land to eat the fish, and then

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they can kind of scoot back into the water. They

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>also do something called crater feeding, where they swim along

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the bottom and they send out those sound waves in

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>order to echo locate. They can actually echo locate prey

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that's hiding under the surface of the sand. And then

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>when they find when those hidden nuggets, they swim up

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>a little, they get ahead of team, and they plunge

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>their beaks down in the substrate and come up with

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>their snack, and they leave behind these big craters in

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the bottom. Is why it's called creator feeding. They've also

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>got this other behavior with the the highly technical name

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of quote fish whacking, where they use their flippers to

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>knock bait fish into the air and then spin back

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>around and consume the stun prey. But maybe the coolest

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and most cooperative dolphin feeding behavior is mud ring feeding.

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>This is first observed in the Florida Keys and then

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>written up for the first time a few years later,

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and it goes like this. A group of bottle nosed

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>dolphins finds a school of baitfish, almost always mullet, on

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a shallow flat. One of the dolphins then starts swimming

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>rapidly in a wide circle, keeping its tail near the

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>bottom and kicking up a plume of mud. That dolphin

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>accelerates and closes the circle, and it creates like a

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>mud plume enclosure with the bait fish inside, and upon

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>being caught in what is essentially like a mud pen,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the bait fish try to escape by jumping out where

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the pot of dolphins is waiting to catch them with

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 1>open mouths. It's pretty cool. It's it's definitely worth looking

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>up on YouTube the next time you're bored. I have

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>either seen this on Blue Planet or buil Dance saltwater.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>It was one or the other, I don't remember. I

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>sure hope it was build out. But but here's how

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>this counts as as fish news actually newsy. Since this

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>feeding behavior was first recorded twenty two years ago, it's

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>only ever been seen in Florida. Dolphins are known to

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>have localized fishing tactics, certain behaviors that a group of

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>dolphins in one area figured out and then they passed

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>down through the generations, and mud ring feeding has up

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>until now, remained totally unique to the dolphins that are

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in and around Florida, But researchers recently observed bottlenose dolphins

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in Belize doing the same thing, and this appears to

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>be a totally new behavior for this population. Now, my

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>first assumption upon reading this was that some dolphin from Florida,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like got a wild hair, maybe gotten in some trouble

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>with its Floridian pod, and just bailed the belieze. But

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it turns out I don't I don't know very much

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>about dolphins, because I was completely wrong. They don't do that.

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>They don't just bail out and go to a different Yet,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>researchers hypothesized that the Belize dolphins figured out the strategy

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>on their own. They're not just biting the style of

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>their Florida cousins, like like high school kids from Michigan

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>after spring break. Since Belize has significant mud flat habitat

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>much like parts of Florida, it makes sense that the

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>dolphins might independently discover that they can crawl bait by

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>stirring at the mud in a circular motion. I for one,

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>am no fan of mullet when I'm flats fishing, and

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>so I'm I'm hoping that dolphins worldwide start figuring out

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>how to just kill them on the flats, and that

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I someday get to observe this phenomenon in person while

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sidcasting to either tarpan or Jack's standing on a flat.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I hope. Why the mullet hatred. What's wrong

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>with some mullets up on the flats? I mean, I

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think you know as well. They're they're the most unpredictable,

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>neurotic fish out there, and you're you're stocking up on whatever,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like your jack's or your bone fish or whatever it is,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, some mullets is like

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>it goes flying out of the water and spooks everything

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>within within the area, like the fish that you're just

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to get up on for no reason. You didn't

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>do anything to that mullet. They just throw themselves out

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of the out of the water for no reason, to

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>freak everything out. I I know that happens. I don't

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>know if that's ever happened to me specifically, because I

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, like bone fishing and stuff I've always

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>done in in like Abaco or Turks and Caicos, and

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there were no mullet there on those flats.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>That has happened to be more times than I can count.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean seeing it in Louisiana where you're going

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>skinny for Red's and it's like, mullet, mullet, mullet, Oh

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>four hundred mullet just went into the sky. We need

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to go over there over there. So I don't know,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't share the same hatred for mullet those dolphins.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>You like mullet but hate dolphins. I think that that

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>puts you in a very unique category. No, I think

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just a difference in what we do.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Like in the in the the the salt seen over here,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>dolphins can either throw you off, like you'll burn some

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>gas chasing dolphins because you you just mayhem out in

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the distance and you think it's stripers or whatever. Done that.

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>And I've also been in scenarios where like you're on

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a good bunker pod and you know you're marking bass

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>or something underneath it, and the dolphin has just come

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>in and it's like, wow, that's done. Now, you know,

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never had that happen. The other one, I've definitely

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>chased down dolphin thinking oh, something going on over there,

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>but I've never happened. I'll tell you. And I don't

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 1>know if you've experienced this, even though I know you've

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>been there. The scariest, meanest, most asshole dolphins are the

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>freshwater pink dolphin. But I also love them. I think

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of amazing. I thought they were super neat

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>until I'm like, I just want to release this nice

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>peak hot bass that after all the fight and all

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 1>the fun it's given me, I just wanted to go

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>back to its home. And they you want to talk

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about correlation between puppies and dolphins, those things were like dogs,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>man Like, they would not go away. They were like

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>dogs begging at a dinner table. Almost the entire time,

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>there were one or two of those pink dolphins around

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>our boat and they would come take your hand off

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>at the wrist if you let them, like they were aggressive,

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you let it, peacock go. I have video where we're like,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>please please get back to the roots, SNAr a little fish,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and like just pink dolphins blowing them up out of

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the water. So I have some of that video myself. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>so pink dolphins. Yeah, dolphins. Hey, let us know you

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 1>love them or hate him. I don't know. They're okay.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Even when I was a kid, Like, somebody give me

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a shark coloring book and a dolphin and whales coloring book.

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want the dolphin and whales coloring.

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with you? I don't want that. What's wrong

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>with you? I have no transition whatsoever to this story.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I've been struggling to think on it. Uh, there's there's

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>no there's no clear connection. So I'm just gonna get

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 1>into it. Um. This one comes from the Banger Daily News,

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.919
<v Speaker 1>uh main for those of you who don't know where

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Banger is, and it sets up an interesting debate. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to this story by Bob Mallard, Maine is poised

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to receive four point five billion dollars from the Federal

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>American Rescue Plan designed to help states recover from losses

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>due to the COVID nineteen pandemic. Okay, Now, three point

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>two billion of that goes into COVID testing, vaccinations, unemployment

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>benefits like super COVID directly related things, Okay, But it

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>leaves an extra one point three billion sort of just

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>hanging out there, which can be used. According to the story, However,

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Governor Janet Mills sees fit and she says she's gonna

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>put that money into the main Jobs Recovery plan to

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>help boost the economy. But she's already earmarked twenty million

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>of this taxpayer money to quote modernized to fish hatcheries

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and install upgrades at all eight of the Department of

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Inland Fisheries and Wildlife hatcheries. Right. So Mallard, who's is

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty well known guide, outdoorsman and writer, right, he's been

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>around um, is asking is that really what we should

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>be doing with that money? And if so, is that

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>fair to the non fishing masses. Right? So, Mallard says

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that the wildlife and Fisheries Department claims recreational fishing brings

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>million to the state economy annually. But then he did

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>other research with the Federal Reserve that shows Mains gross

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>state product was sixty six point two billion, And I'm

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>sorry for the numbers, but they have to be there.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>It matters, right, And so what that means is that

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>recreational fishing represents less than one half of one per

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>cent of the total gross state product. So then Bob

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>goes on to say that there's a press release that

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>claims there were three licensed anglers in Maine, and that's

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>residents and non residents combined, but the real number was

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>more like two. If that's true, he says, if you

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>do of the math and look at Mains one three

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>million residents, less than fift percent held a license in

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>So what he thinks is that this is a reaction.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>This this this money going to hatcheries is a reaction

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>to the bumping license sales in which a lot of

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>states saw, right, we don't need to beat that to death.

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot more anglers out there, a lot

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>more licenses sold. Um. But he brings up the argument,

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>which is a fair one. I think he says like, hey,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>can we bank on those people year after year, or

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>as the pandemic slowly fades out and people get back

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to work in a little bit more normal life and

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>so on, will they be there Because twenty million is

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a pretty big investment in like sort of an uncertain

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>future in that department. Right, So I'll wrap this up

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>with with a quote from the story, and this is

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of drives his his his problem with all this

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>home Mallard Rights. Most disappointing was mills statement that hatcheries

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>were at the core of mains fisheries. This statement is misleading, dangerous,

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and somewhat self serving because the state government does the stocking.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>The idea that stocking is the most important component of

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Maine's recreational fisheries completely ignores what Maine is best known for,

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>wild native fish. So to promote the stocking of hatchery

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>raised fish, many of which are non native over wild

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 1>native fish, including some found primarily or solely in Maine,

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is a disservice. And we've certainly covered issues in Fish

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>News before with problems that Maine has had with non

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>native species. So I don't know, I grabbed this because,

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like to some you could hear, oh, man, that's great,

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna put Main's gonna put all this money into

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>into fishing. But here's the guy who's pretty hard core angler,

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty plugged in, and I actually see some of his points.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that the best use of that money? Right now,

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I actually agree with him. I kind of

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>think I do too. Instead of hatcheries, if that money

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>had been earmarked for habitat restoration, right, I don't. I

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 1>think it would be an easier argument to support, Yeah,

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>because that has a broader based value for more citizens.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>When you're talking about hatcheries, you're really just talking about

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the people who want to go fishing and keep fishing, right,

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think I think that's a pretty salient

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>point the thing. And this is not not really germane

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to your story. It's sort of a sidebar. But only

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>fient of Main residents hold a license. Shocking. That's according

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that's according to his math. Yeah. I mean, I'm just

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>going by by his research and what stats he had

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>in the story. But I mean, regardless, I mean I

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>get the point that he's making. You know, a lot

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>of states make this claim, and it makes you wonder

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>what the government agency says oh, well, this state makes

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so this much money off fishing per year. But do

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you really know that? Is that inflated? Is that padded out?

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't really know. But at face value, I mean

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you see it in a press release like Maine to

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>spend twenty million on fishing, you know what I mean,

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's very easy. I think for some fishing

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>folks be like, oh, good for them, that's good. That's yeah,

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>stimulus money going doing the right things and the right stuff.

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>But when you really break it down, it's like, ah,

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we're better. They could do better with that.

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the same thing here with Jersey, like do

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>we need to redo all our fish hatcheries like they're

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>making fish and supporting what everybody needs for the stock

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>er season in the spring, Like that would would that

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>be the best use of similar money here? No, I

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think it would. So just kind of puts a

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>different spin on some some Covidy stuff and it gets

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I like, I like how he's thinking, I like how

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>he's questioning. Yeah, I know that sounds like a really

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting piece. Um, I have zero connective tissue between that,

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>we had none. No, that's not my first transition was seamless. Okay,

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it was. That was good. That was there. But I'm

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>just gonna follow up on something from previous Fish News.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm about to do. I'm following up in

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the story I told a few weeks ago about Josh Jorgensen,

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>also known as black tip h and the very large

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>tarpan that he caught in the Pacific. In that segment,

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, I wanted to dig deeper into that population

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of fish without having to cover questionable handling. World records

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>are angry. YouTube commentary Well, today, listener Ben Kurth sent

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>me some additional reading on the topic of tarban in

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific. But before I get into that, let's do

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a quick recap. Over the past few decades, anglers on

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific side of southern Central America and northern South

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>America have been encountering tarpan, which initially caused quite a

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>stirb but is becoming more commonplace. The researchers know how

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the fish got there. Some controversy remains over whether the

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>fish are migrants, if they're reproducing, and impact they're having

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on the ecosystem. In the video, we talked about Jorgensen

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and his guide refer to the tarpan they catch as

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>quote invasive, a loaded and possibly inaccurate term. I wanted

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>to dig in and better understand this population of fish

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and what we do and don't know about them. When

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>anglers talk about tarpan, they're talking about Atlantic tarpan. There

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>is another species called Indo Pacific tarpan, but they're not

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.479
<v Speaker 1>a primary sport fish and they don't get nearly as big.

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic tarpin have historically been found in well, the Atlantic,

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and they've been happily cruising around in that one ocean,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 1>munching on baitfish and gulping air for about a hundred

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and thirteen million years. Just over a century ago. In

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fourteen, the Panama Canal was completed, connecting the Atlantic

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>and Pacific Oceans through the isthmus of Panama. Tarpan we're

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>first spotted in the Pacific locks of the Panama Canal

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 1>in the late nineteen thirties, and then ten years later

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>large adults were identified swimming around in Panama Bay. They

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>have slowly spread up and down the coast and are

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>now found from Guatemala to the Columbia Ecuador border, with

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>large adults becoming more and more common in the southern

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>part of that range, which is where Jorgensen caught his fish.

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>The most recent comprehensive study that I could find about

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>this topic was published in twenty nineteen in the journal

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Reviews in Fish Biology and Fisheries, and after reading that

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>study and a number of other sources, both research based

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and anecdotal, I feel like I have a better grasp

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>on the situation. There is no doubt that tarpan have

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>migrated through the canal. Interestingly enough, concern over aquatic species,

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>specifically sea snakes, migrating from the Pacific to the Caribbean,

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>almost prevented the canal from being built. Biologists ultimately concluded

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that sea snakes couldn't survive the passage because of much

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>of the canal's fresh water. They were correct. The sea

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>snakes never made it through, but other species have. Tarpaner

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 1>thought to be the first fish that successfully traversed the

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty miles of saline, brackish and fresh water and then

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 1>came out the other side. Studies have shown that adult

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>tarpan have plenty of suitable habitat and forage in the Pacific,

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>so why haven't they just taken over that coast. To

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>answer that, you gotta look at reproduction. We know tarpin

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>are moving through the canal, but are they successfully spawning.

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Juvenile tarpin as small as seventeen centimeters have been found

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in a few places, but in fifty years of sampling,

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>no tarp and larvae have been found on the Pacific side.

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>They have, however, been detected at the locks on the

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic side. It's possible the juveniles or larva are making

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>their way through the canal, but it seems pretty unlikely.

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So the question remains, what's going on tarpin. Our broadcast

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>spawners the adults gathering in these big groups several miles offshore,

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and they mixed the milt and the eggs and and

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>then the fertilized larva. Then ride wind and currents inshore,

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're looking for brackish canals and lagoons. Because they

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>mature slowly, young tarpan need a place to live where

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>other creatures won't eat them. Tarpan spend up to the

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 1>first decade of their lives in low oxygen backwaters where

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>other predators just can't get to them. They can't live there,

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>there's not enough oxygen tarpink and gould air. Ye, the

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Pacific coast experiences far more tidal shift than the Curban side, right,

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And so that means that those baby tarpan really don't

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have a place to live on the Pacific side, right,

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>because all those mangroves and lagoons and those those brackish

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>habitats they get completely flushed out of the low tide.

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>There's no once it makes sense. I mean, even if

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you just know about fly fishing, like belize, it's all

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Eastern side because they have all the shallows and all

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the mangroves and stuff on that side of Central America. Right. So,

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>so there's a real lack of habitat for young tarpan

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to get through that life stage over there. The most

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>likely hypothesis seems to be that the tarban they're spawning

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific, but very few if any, of those

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>larva are able to find habitat where they can grow

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>and mature. Right, So what you end up with over

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>there is this perfect scenario for growing truly enormous fish. Right,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Some adults are moving through the canal and a very

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 1>few juveniles may be surviving into adulthood. That means the

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 1>tarpan that are on the Pacific side. They just don't

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 1>have a whole lot of competition from their own species, right,

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and fewer apex predator fish in a system often means

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that individuals have the opportunity to grow exceptionally large, which

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>might explain the crazy huge fish that Jorgensen landed recently. Yep,

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>finally I'm gonna hit on that invasive species tag. According

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to researchers, tarpan are not, allow me to repeat, not

0:51:54.960 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>considered invasive. That is inaccurate because there are no observed

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 1>negative impacts of tarpan and the Pacific and no imminent

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>threat of a population boom. They are not labeled as invasive.

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>That's just a fact. Furthermore, they're not likely to become

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>an invasive species for several reasons. First, like we just

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about, the Pacific coast lacks abundant habitat for juvenile recruitment. Second,

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 1>tarpan are highly susceptible to over fishing. They're pretty easy

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to catch relatively, and they're very slow to reproduce and grow.

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>With all the subsistence fishing in that part of the world,

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>tarpan are gonna get caught and they're gonna eat. If

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>they're a rapes, this is gonna happen. And third, that

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the world is also experiencing pretty rapid coastal

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>habitat degradation. Again, that's a problem for tarban and as

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason that they're listed as a vulnerable

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>species globally. All of that is just best guesses. We

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know any of it. For certain eighty years feels

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like a long time for tarban too have been swimming

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific. But if you think about it, that's only

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>sick for seven generations of fish. It's it's possible the

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>tarpin could find a foothold and take over on the side,

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but the evidence suggests that's just not likely to happen.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, though, the coast is probably the best bet.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're looking for a record fish, that's probably where

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen. So you think it's shifted out of Africa,

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.399
<v Speaker 1>it was Africa forever. I know it was. I'm I mean,

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I I think based off of what I no one

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 1>else is saying that, Like, that's just me stepping out

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But if you think about a new

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>species in an open system, where they have the ability

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to grow without much competition from themselves. Yeah, I think

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance. Well, if somebody gets down there

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and gets one, let us know, it won't be me.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.839
<v Speaker 1>I did a two one time. I don't ever need

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that ever ever. Again, you're good. Once once

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.839
<v Speaker 1>was plenty. Well there you go. Man. I mentioned last

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>time this came up that I had heard whispers about

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>this and like little sort of you know, talk about

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific side. But it's fascinating to to hear that

0:53:57.960 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>take on it, and that makes a lot of sense.

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 1>They just don't have the shallows that the East side had. Uh.

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>What I want to know though, is more about what's

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the Indo Pacific tarpin? Should I be chasing that or

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>is it like is it like the bone fish in

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>San Diego Bay? Do you ever hear of those? I

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 1>have heard of those, see, but you haven't been excited

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>enough to go look for them, because people are like, yeah,

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not excited enough to go on an Indo Pacific

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>carbon trip. If I happened to be somewhere fishing where

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they existed, I would probably chase them because it would

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>be cool. But they don't get very big comparatively, they're

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty small. Okay. Where do they live? Well, the

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Indo Pacific, So you're talking like Japan, Australia. Who aren't

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 1>slang terms for these regions? Where there you go? So

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>they they are not invasive, Phil, you got a lot

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to chew on this week. I took a little shot

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 1>at you, so maybe that hurt me. Miles called you Caesar,

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.760
<v Speaker 1>so maybe that'll help him. I don't know. We're gonna

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.960
<v Speaker 1>hear from Phil. We're gonna he's gonna declare a winner,

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna move on to awkward moments and angling.

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And this one is really awkward and kind of scary,

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really hoping more rather than fewer of you

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>watch the movie that I reference in this segment. Phil, Honey,

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>it's time to wake up. What I gotta wake up?

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 1>It's time to edit the podcast? Mom? Yes, okay, you ready? Yeah? Yeah,

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>let's let's do the podcast. How do I How do

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I do it? Okay? See that button there, the blue one?

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Push that one? Okay, okay, good now edit edit? And

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>then what do I click? Now? Okay, now I want

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you to export hit the export boton. Oh that's right,

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>okay X export to Await MP three, MP three Yes, okay,

0:55:56.320 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 1>all right, you got it? I did it. Good job.

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And the winner for best engineered podcast episode of all

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 1>time goes to Phil for episode fifty four of Ben.

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone that you'd like to thank? WHOA? I mean? Yeah,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess, Uh the guy upstairs? J C. My boy,

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>how's the view? Uh? Tony at Arby's Joe, Sir Mellie

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the winner of fish News this week. Oh my mom, Mom,

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.879
<v Speaker 1>thanks for waking me up. And I couldn't have done

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>it without you. Phill, Honey, it's time to take out

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the track mob. Shut up. You're embarrassing me. Guy. When

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>did you take a picture at the Life Black? So

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:56.760
<v Speaker 1>last time on Awkward Moments, we had a young lady

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 1>holding a striper that looked like she was about to cry,

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>remember this, while her husband stood behind her with a

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.319
<v Speaker 1>sinister look on his face. And I joked that it

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.879
<v Speaker 1>looked like a movie scene where a female victim is

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>held at gunpoint and told like to start walking and

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.280
<v Speaker 1>don't say a word. Right. Well, this week's awkward photo

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>conjures another movie scene, and and it's the ending to

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>sleep Away Camp and the look on antagonist Angela Baker's

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>face during the big end reveal that she's actually been

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a boy the entire time. Now, if you don't know

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about, look up the ending of Sleepaway

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Camp on YouTube and you will agree she makes one

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of the most terrifying faces ever. I had never heard

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of this movie. Come on, you never heard of it

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.640
<v Speaker 1>on Sleepaway Camp? No clue. But at your request for

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this segment, I did look it up and I watched

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.959
<v Speaker 1>the final scene and yeah, the faces that, I guess

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you could call the face terrifying. To me, it looked

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>stupid and cheesy more than terrifying. And I have zero

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>desire to watch that film. But I see why you

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted that reference. I totally get it because the expression

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>on the face of the person in this photo really

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 1>does mirror the one where that the one that that

0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>movie ends on. It's very close. It's right there. Yeah.

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So this week's photo was sent to me via d

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>M by listener Luke Zekel, and he writes this was

0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 1>taken on the Upper Genesee River in New York. By

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the way, boom, there's another shout out for the gym everywhere, right,

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 1>We're making the Jenny famous on the bench. Um. This

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>was taken on the Upper Genesee River whilst fishing for

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>smallmouth with mass flies. I bumped into a decent brown trout,

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>which was my first mass trout. He then adds side note,

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>this fish was caught after switching out a master splinter

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that I had thrown for two hours with no bites

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and immediately hooked up on its replacement. Wait minute, who

0:58:55.960 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>was it you, Joe did? Did you invent I master

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>splinter fly? It's it's possibility, that's my patterns thought. The

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>thing is, what you don't know is that we're usually

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>inundated with people fawning over how much they loved Joe

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and the splinter and blah blah blah. You're like so

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>great for making it. So I gotta say I appreciate

0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>this because that was a very well turned, subtle dig.

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know about you, but I mean, do

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you think do you think he was suggesting maybe that

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>your fly sucks? You know? I kind of think he

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was kind of think he was saying, my fly you

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 1>But guess what, Luke, Okay, ten and fifteen other people

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>say you're wrong? Okay. Anyway, regardless regardless of the fly.

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, I don't care what she caught it on

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>props on the first night, Right, that is an accomplishment,

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and luckily that accomplishment was documented just so well, just perfect.

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 1>So onto the photo. He's night fishing. So obviously the

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 1>photo was taken in the dark, which is perfect because

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>if I were going to make a fly fishing themed

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>horror a movie, I think I would want this photo

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for the poster. Yes, and we'll we'll do that. That's

1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a great idea, by the way, it's a whole new genre.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk, we'll talk. Yeah. So Luke. Luke stands in

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<v Speaker 1>the foreground on what looks to be a muddy flat

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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing socks and sneakers, two tone gray board shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>a black under armor hoodie, and a very snazzy sling

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<v Speaker 1>pack right across his chest. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Luke is shaggy blonde and wearing what i'd call I'll

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<v Speaker 1>call emo style glasses. Is that still thing? Is emo

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<v Speaker 1>still a thing? I think? So? I still I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is anymore, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Got It's hard to quantify because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. I think of emo is

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<v Speaker 1>Wheezer Blue Album, but that's people say I'm wrong. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a red baseball cap on backwards and strapped

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<v Speaker 1>around his dome is like a it's a pretty serious headlamp.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to me, it looks like the kind spelunkers use. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's that's his other me, maybe he's a spelunker.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know. He's to see anybody in the caves

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<v Speaker 1>on the Genesee River let us know. Uh, he's also

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<v Speaker 1>got his fly right in his mouth. And while I

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<v Speaker 1>have to clarify, I mean no way, shape or form

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<v Speaker 1>like knocking the gear, because we're all about fishing what

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<v Speaker 1>you can afford. Just for context, just for context, it

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be like an older Martin or Shakespeare combo,

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<v Speaker 1>which I can tell because of the thickness of the

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<v Speaker 1>butt end, the green coloring, and the rod has like

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<v Speaker 1>the E v A grips instead of cork. So not digging,

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<v Speaker 1>just setting up the photo. Nope, nothing, nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I fished with a very similar rod for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does strike me as a little odd that

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<v Speaker 1>his chest pack would sell for double the price of

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<v Speaker 1>his rod. Reel and line combined. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a gift, maybe he was borrowing it

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<v Speaker 1>from some boogie friend, doesn't really matter. Let's focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the image, which has this very strong ethereal quality to it. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and taking a quick photo in the dark using your

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<v Speaker 1>phone flash just tricky. And whoever took this doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they have solid photography skills really now now, And

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<v Speaker 1>like pretty much everything except Luke's middle is blurred, like

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<v Speaker 1>blurred to the point where it feels like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely there or not entirely solid, and that likely didn't

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<v Speaker 1>result in what he was going for. I'm guessing he

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<v Speaker 1>was going for like a bragboard shot of his first

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<v Speaker 1>mouth brown but what he got was definitely not that

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<v Speaker 1>I would, however, say, it's it's a lot more interesting. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>totally totally right. So Luke is looking down, but not

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<v Speaker 1>at the blurry twelve inch trout in his right hand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like he's staring at his friend's feet, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's staring into the abyss of yea yeah. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you photoshop the rod out of his mouth, it would

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<v Speaker 1>just look like he's screaming, right, uh, And once again

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<v Speaker 1>not kidding his face at the end of Sleepaway Camp, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So take the rod and the fish out of the shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is like some like evil psychopath that just

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<v Speaker 1>lunged out the woods that or it looks like this

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<v Speaker 1>was taken at the precise moment, like he was stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>in the gut by the psycho killer at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of a movie, at the end of the heart. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the could go either way. He's either the

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<v Speaker 1>victim or the killer, but either way it works. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the climax to a horror film with fishing

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<v Speaker 1>gear at it in and I think what probably actually

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<v Speaker 1>happened is he was trying to get situated for the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yelling instructions to the photographer while holding his

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<v Speaker 1>rod and his teeth, but he's just like, whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. Fish isn't that big. He snapped the thing

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<v Speaker 1>before anybody was ready. He didn't bother to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and just told me, no worries, man, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks great. But he didn't get it, at least not

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that Luke was. I'm sure hoping Luke's

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<v Speaker 1>left hand is this just a fleshy blur, so he

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<v Speaker 1>must have been waving it or moving around and that

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<v Speaker 1>motion resulted in it gives it the appearance that Luke

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<v Speaker 1>just has no left arm. Yeah, left arm doesn't exist, no,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And did I picture with the rod just

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<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, Carl one truck one and he just

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<v Speaker 1>went click and like picture man um. But yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the and the position of the blurry left hand, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look like he's got one t rex arm,

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<v Speaker 1>which adds to the creepiness of the whole thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know people know what a t rex arm

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<v Speaker 1>is like. If Luke was chasing you with his arms

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<v Speaker 1>and t rex posture and it's look on his face

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<v Speaker 1>like snarling and possibly drooling, you'd be terrified. I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would run away if I if I ran into

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<v Speaker 1>this dude on the river. It's good, Luke, congrats on

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<v Speaker 1>the first mouse brown. Yeah. Man, I'm sorry Joe's fly suck,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm very happy for you whatever. I'm not sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about what we said about your photo because frankly, it's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're a very nice dude, but this image

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<v Speaker 1>could give people nightmares. And if you do get nightmares,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. And if you've got an awkward photo

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<v Speaker 1>that could make us laugh, or haunt our dreams, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Send it to Bent at the meat Eater dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just might end up getting roasted on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I feel bad, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do kind of think we made Luke sounds scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It was appropriate, but I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>approp I don't know it was right. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel that bad. I'm sure he's not I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's a lovely young man, right, but in that just

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<v Speaker 1>that Nano's second in time, right, his face looks like

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<v Speaker 1>like like the screaming spider creature head thing from the Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, and I found it frightening. I found it frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>You're it was begging to be called out that it

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a horrifying image while also being hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of being frightened, Joe is going to close

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<v Speaker 1>out the show with an end of the line segment

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<v Speaker 1>about a fly you will not find for sale because

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<v Speaker 1>he invented it, but it's super easy to tie and

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<v Speaker 1>based around one hell of a fish Camp story that

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<v Speaker 1>will also keep up with this week's um low hanging

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<v Speaker 1>sub theme fish Well, that's not loud enough. Fair warning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm changing names and locations for this one. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never told this story publicly, but given our theme

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<v Speaker 1>of fish Camp, and despite trying like how to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with something better, I just kept coming back to this,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing in my heart that the time is now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the right thing. Years ago, in the before times,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the pre kid times, a group of my best

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<v Speaker 1>fishing buddies and I would make an annual pilgrimage to

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<v Speaker 1>fish for steelhead in let's say Michigan. I had been

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<v Speaker 1>friends with a few veteran guides in the area who

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<v Speaker 1>always graciously helped secure a crash house and graciously invited

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<v Speaker 1>me and my buds to crash at it while subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>helping us get on the fish. What you ended up with, however,

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<v Speaker 1>were two factions in the house, the older guys and

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<v Speaker 1>the punk asked twentysomething's and we all got along smashingly,

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<v Speaker 1>but naturally we all had different routines too. The older

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<v Speaker 1>crew would drink a Scotch with dinner and turn in

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<v Speaker 1>about nine pm, which was right around when my crew

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<v Speaker 1>was ten beers into a mandatory thirty carrying on while

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<v Speaker 1>most Extreme Elimination Challenge roared on the TV in the

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<v Speaker 1>family room. It was around eleven PM when nature called

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Ron, we'll say Ron. When he came back

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<v Speaker 1>from the bathroom, he looked shaken and upset. What happened? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we asked, Ron had opened the wrong door in the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of the bathroom, He opened the door of one

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<v Speaker 1>of our guides, Barry, who was lying fully nude on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of his made bed reading a magazine. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a pornographic magazine, nor did Ron catch him in

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<v Speaker 1>the act of pleasuring himself. As I recall, Ron said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like a woodworking magazine. Barry was

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<v Speaker 1>equally startled, of course, and at a loss for words,

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<v Speaker 1>just blurted out, do you need something naturally upon here

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<v Speaker 1>in this The rest of us just completely lost our ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the entire rest of that trip we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>let Ron forget that he saw Barry's junk. Fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the following summer. Back in those pre ki days,

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<v Speaker 1>I had all the time in the world to completely

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<v Speaker 1>refill steelhead boxes before the next winner, and after churning

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<v Speaker 1>out a hundred fresh estas eggs. I decided to get creative.

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<v Speaker 1>I tied a fly that combined the power of the

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<v Speaker 1>San Juan worm with the jigginess of the cloudser. I

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<v Speaker 1>put two pink bead chain eyes on a nimp hook,

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<v Speaker 1>added a little pinch of pink ice tub, and finished

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<v Speaker 1>with a long, pink shineel tail that i'd singe and

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<v Speaker 1>roll into a point. It looked more like a bone

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<v Speaker 1>fish fly than a steelhead fly, but I thought in

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<v Speaker 1>shallower runs I might be able to fish it without

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<v Speaker 1>the obligatory thirteen to fifteen split shot on your leader

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<v Speaker 1>that winner me. The same crew of Buddies and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>made the annual track, but compared to the year prior,

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<v Speaker 1>the fishing was a little slow. About midway through the

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<v Speaker 1>first day, having gone through twelve colors of eggs and

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<v Speaker 1>fleas with no luck, I tied on my creation, and

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<v Speaker 1>within a dozen drifts, no kidding, I was tied into

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<v Speaker 1>a steelhead. Not a huge fish, but it was a victory,

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<v Speaker 1>and after I released it, Ron came over and said, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what what did it eat? Now? The fly had no name,

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<v Speaker 1>but at that point, despite my disdain for penis shaped lures,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the bug in my hand. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the resemblance and just said Barry's wiener. I gave a

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<v Speaker 1>Barry's wiener to Ron and a couple of the other dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now did they destroy No, But we stuck a few

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<v Speaker 1>more steeles on that little jiggy worm. The problem was

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<v Speaker 1>that Barry was just as curious about the pattern, which

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<v Speaker 1>we told him we called the BW. For the next

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<v Speaker 1>few days, every time Barry yelled out, did you hook

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<v Speaker 1>that on the b W? We about died. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>been too long since that crew got together for steel

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<v Speaker 1>But if we did, I guarantee someone would still have

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<v Speaker 1>one of the original b ws in their fly box

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<v Speaker 1>and the story still wouldn't have gotten old. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for this week. If you're headed a fish camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy, we hope you all remember failing to not

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<v Speaker 1>could result in fly being named after your package you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to shoot that night, Brown, make sure we can

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<v Speaker 1>see more than dead people. And if you want your

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<v Speaker 1>fish camp adventure filmed, r A Bati will do it

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<v Speaker 1>for bail money. I've also heard I have it on

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<v Speaker 1>good authority, are runs a special hire him to film

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<v Speaker 1>your King Sira GT. Twelve flies free now If you

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<v Speaker 1>want free stickers, all you have to do is keep

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<v Speaker 1>using those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>If we repost something you tag, you get stickers. Simple

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<v Speaker 1>as that. You can also get swag from us if

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<v Speaker 1>we use something you sent on the show. So please

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<v Speaker 1>keep all those salban items, bar nominations, awkward photos, and

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you'd think we'd like. Come into Bent at

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<v Speaker 1>the meat eater dot com. And if you find a

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<v Speaker 1>set toy in the river, maybe next to some majestically

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<v Speaker 1>rising trout, remember to fill it on newspaper so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't slide all over the place.