WEBVTT - Dapper 101 with Kelvin Davis 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:07.080 We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.960 talked back. What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.680 for a new episode that we talked back, A show 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.400 dedicated for you niggas and these holes and everybody in 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.160 but to Ween, it's your co host a J Holiday. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.239 What a hey, y'all listen me, Tim Ben I love y'all, man, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.920 I do, y'all be telling me, y'all love me back? 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.160 J look a j Roe her eyes just now. I do. Hey, 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:37.000 y'all tuning in one sucking him everybody. My weekend was lady, y'all. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.720 I went to Nashville and I participated in the Thrill 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.199 of Possibilities summit hosted by Nissan on her radio and 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.000 Black Effect, and I got to speak to some young 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.720 bright at Bushy Tail College students on a panel about 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.240 h b c U S And it was so much fun. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.520 I really enjoyed it. The students looked like they enjoyed it. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.959 Everybody from Black Effect Network really had a good time. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.200 I'm so I was grateful to be a part of 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.679 something so monumental in our black community. Thank you Nissan, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.199 thank you Black Effect, and thank you our Heart Radio. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.640 For having me for that. That was great. That sounds 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.280 super dope. Glad you enjoyed yourself. Yeah it was great, man, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.119 it was How about your weekend? I didn't do much 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.920 chill out prepare for this week that's it. Um. I 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.319 really want to come to your your stock class when 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.319 you hosted, I know you were doing preparing for that. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.480 Oh yes, okay, so this is what i'd be preparing 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.240 for all right, So yes, y'all, and I have been 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.080 meaning to mention it. Thank you for in minding me. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.280 So I have finally started putting together curriculum for my 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.960 options traded and UM class. I'll put some notifications at 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.400 LOOT that out soon for anybody who would like to attend. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.720 Even if you don't ever trade options, I feel like 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.680 all black people should know how to trade options, especially 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.200 with our declining economy. The stock marketing ain't going no where. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.960 So if you can learn how to make money on 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.760 the downside of the stock market, like that's where it 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.720 is at, so you still make money even if the 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.519 stock market goes down with option trading. So get in there. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:19.799 Check it out, man, that's abuton, it's for me. Oh yeah, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:24.040 it's not free. And look niggas. It ain't free, you know. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.799 I just want to get compensated a little bit for 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.720 my time. But for the most part, it definitely is 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.520 going to be a well put together, comprehensive course, inexpensive 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.119 in comparison to a lot of ship you might get 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.679 charged for out here, because I have seen some programs 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.239 upwards five dollars. He would be out here trying to 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.760 charge people. I just want you to have the knowledge 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.680 that's where my love comes from. I don't be there 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.560 seeking some of that little bit. What happened is stupid 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:57.240 internet news. Okay, so the Internet isn't a frenzy right now. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.959 You know young Miami's baby daddy. So I was I 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.760 I know on Instagram he's eight or eight, my boas, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.680 but his son and friends in the class and recorded 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:13.040 his teacher, their teacher basically saying that how he's racist. Essentially, Yeah, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.520 I did see him. It's a Texas middle school balls 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.440 bowls b O h l S is that bowls whatever? 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.480 Middle school? The teacher balls to the wall and they're 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:30.680 gonna like he's on administrative leading for admitting to his 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:36.480 very young, impressionable class that he is in fact a racist. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.120 And I was trying to, you know, listen to the 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.160 discussion to understand the context in which he was saying, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.840 because there is a point where he says, I don't 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.280 hate anybody. I don't. He said, I think I'm ethnocentric, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.600 and which means I do think I belong to the 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.680 superior race. What do you think about that? I think 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.880 what the teacher and that situation was trying to explain 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.640 could have possibly, you know, he could have explained things 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.480 a little bit better, but I think he would was 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.560 probably trying to tell them a difference between prejudice and racism, 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.640 maybe a little bit, because I think that most people 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.240 are prejudiced. We do have prejudices against other groups of 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.560 people that are outside of our group. That's like a 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.680 real thing. We have prejudices against our own people. Yeah, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.440 so especially in a time like we're in right now, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.560 right all the ship that's going on with the j 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:37.640 community or whatever, however why we can't say it, but yeah, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.160 so with with that, it's almost like, um, and then 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.440 now we're saying we're the real ones we on this 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:50.279 earth and all that stuff. Everybody probably practices, Um, what 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:55.719 is the word you use? Ethno centrism? Ye? I don't 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.440 think that. I think everybody practices that, but nobody wants 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.800 to be honest about it. Mm hmm um. I was like, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.560 what play for? I meant for the team. Yeah. So 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.920 even like when we get mad when we see black 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.800 men with white women, like why can't they do that 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.680 without our group feeling some type of way about it. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.240 So there is the prejudice because I ain't got no man, right, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.480 if you had a man, you were feeling type of way. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.960 But that's that's really where it stems from. But I 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:32.400 don't know, I don't think that was a conversation for Yeah, yeah, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.560 that was, you know, because a lot of adults aren't, 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.640 you know, ready for that conversation. So to be having 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.159 this conversation with these kids and their parents aren't present 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.599 probably wasn't the best idea, you know, he would I 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.320 don't know, mm hmmm, because you don't need to be 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.760 sitting in the school with kids that black kids majority. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.880 It looks like the classroom was full of black kids. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.479 I saw hispanic, yeah, but for the most part it 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.039 was black boys. I did see a little Hispanic boy 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.960 in there, so it's probably and they were the most vocal. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.159 But yeah, if you say he didn't say he was prejudiced. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.840 He said he was racist, And it was that word 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:17.360 that was like triggering for me, like racist, right, I 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.080 don't know, he did say he was racist, you know, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.560 people adding white supremacists on top of that and all 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.520 that should just have a negative connotation. But I mean, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.440 I might could be seen as a black supremacist. Yeah, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.960 a lot of black people could be seen that way. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.280 M but I don't like to put labels on stuff 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.720 in that way. I'm definitely not racist. I'm definitely We're 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.799 not in a position to do anything really systemically racist 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.760 to another group of people at all. I don't know 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.440 if I think I'm better because I'm Black. I just 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.680 think I'm better and black at the same time. Period 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.400 just happened to be that way. I'm sorry, and the 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.600 black was just the icing on the cake of all. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.200 And who's to tell another group of people they too 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.800 can't feel that same way. I feel like us being 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.800 that way in America is shunned on a lot, Like 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.679 you can't display black power and proud to be black 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.280 without another group of people feeling like you're oppressing them, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.200 where we are not in a position to oppress any body. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.120 But you know why, I feel like white people might 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:24.240 feel like they can't have white pride. They do. It's 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.440 a whole movement right now. Yeah, Oh, you feel like 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.440 there's a white white men in particular feel like they 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.960 no longer have a voice in America when y'all still 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.960 like literally running or are they? Because the ship we've 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.720 seen in the last couple of weeks, I don't know 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:45.240 who running, what what's happening? I don't know right, but 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.160 I think that anytime going forward, black people need to 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.240 look at things a little bit more objectively instead of 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.080 having so much emotion. Because don't forget, like, even though 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.360 it's a black person and the black kid experience, who 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.640 put this ship on the internet, Like the ship stole 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.160 makes its way out there to force us to have 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.720 all these emotions about ship. Just sit back and be 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.160 a fucking observer. So how do you feel like if 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.680 a white person call you the end or with the 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.560 hard e R or with the A on the end, 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:21.360 how would you respond to anybody's saying that word to me, um, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.200 especially a white person. For sure you're gonna get smacked. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.240 I would. That's that's the derogatory word that they shouldn't 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.800 not they should not use. Yes, we've found some type 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.440 of way to make it a positive thing, because you 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.760 gotta look at where the word actually comes from. Like 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.920 some people it's niger I think that. I used to 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.680 feel like you call me the N word, I'm punching 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.480 your mouth right. But now I'm in a space where 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.960 I'd be like, who burn Like it don't have no 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.440 power over you, Like, try again, bitch, that don't hurt 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.760 my feeling even the er. Yeah, I feel like it 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.520 wouldn't burn me no more. I don't feel like it 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.079 has that type of power. But it hasn't happened to me, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.679 so I can't speak to I might be just sitting 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.640 here saying like, oh, bit, that don't affect me. It 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.840 rolled off my shoulder like water, you know. Like, but 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.079 I might be wrong. I might take it to your 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:14.880 motherfucking ask just out of anybody using that. Anybody using 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.600 that ere gonna be a problem for me. I've seen 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.199 when Kanye was, you know, all in the news a 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.839 couple of weeks ago. I forgot who it was, but 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.840 it was a celebrity. Um, but he tweeted, he said, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:30.280 fuck you nigger? What the er? He tweeted that, yeah, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.160 it's still like it's a black man. Don't get me wrong, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.920 it is. I would not be okay with it, but 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.160 I don't know if it would be powerful enough to 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.880 take me to be violent towards this ignorant person. You're 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.720 the real nigger, right, that's true. So I don't know. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:52.120 I'm still I'm still a w P working progress. I 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:57.440 was watching SNL. Well everybody's probably seen as SNL. Dave Chappelle, Um, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:02.880 I guess, yeah, stand up recently, and it's I mean, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.600 it's still relevant to what we're talking about about. This 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:09.800 teacher in Texas. He found a real comedic way to 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:15.320 have these uncomfortable conversations. Mm hmm. He always does, but 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:22.240 mm hmmm upset him right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.640 because everything is anti semitic at this point. I Um, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.640 I saw a video where they were literally listing all 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.640 the black people throughout history, you know, from Civil Rights 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:37.120 on down that were called anti semitic. Girl everybody Oprah. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.560 Oprah was called anti semitic for having a Jewish family. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.160 Are multiple Jewish families on his show one time, and 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.560 they were literally talking about how they secretly worshiped the 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.800 devil in the house. She got called anti Semitic for 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.600 it though, and these are Jewish people telling their truth. Yeah, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.319 that's wow. Uh. Day Chappelle made a joke that he said, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.640 when black people do it their gangs, When Italian do 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.240 it is their mob, and when Jewish people do it, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.840 it's a coincidence. Ever, again, that's funny. I mean if 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.920 a comedian, we're just so sensitive. I mean, you can't 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.280 even be humorous anymore. There was a time when a 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.720 comedian could like make fun of anybody and it would 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.400 be okay because it's out of humor. Not anymore. They 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.320 about to cancel Dave Chappelle to man, Dave Chappelle cannot 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.959 be canceled. He's proven that multiple times. He just is 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.400 battling the l g B d Q e O g 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.400 B t Q community last year he can't be canceled. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.000 But don't y'all think it's kind of weird how we're 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.280 laughing at it though? Why Kyrie and Kanye they're really 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.400 going through some ship right now. But a comedian can 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.480 come out and have an audience that is, you know, diverse, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.120 the diverse audience and everybody could laugh together but these 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.280 two black men, Like we're laughing at it, but these 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.960 two black men really going through it, the truth that 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.240 Dave Chappelle is now telling. And y'all can laugh at 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.840 it because it's in a him a comedy. This ship 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.720 has happened to two black people. Well, all right, we're laughing, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.880 but this just happened this week, you know, this Saturday. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.240 We ain't seeing what they do today. Chappelle, he might 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.959 go through it too. We're gonna see watch what happens, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.560 you know, watch what happens next. No, but why are 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.760 we even gonna watch what's happening? The thing is, I 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:23.120 feel like the only way that outside uh forces could 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.680 do anything to us is if some people within our 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.280 group are complicit. If everybody be like, no, y'all can't 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.560 do that to him. Everybody gotta be like that, though, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.520 y'all can't do that if they come agrees, because all right, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.360 when it comes to anti Semitism, only a Jewish people 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.120 can decide what's hurtful to them, right. I can't tell 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.920 you that that's not a hurtful statement, or that that's 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.560 you know, they can't tell you that there's Jewish people 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.280 actually right now and trying to take down to a 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.120 d L. That's a real thing because they are essentially 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.880 extoring people at this point. Well, I mean that's similar 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:03.160 to to black people. And and you're proving what people 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.120 are saying, by the way, y'all are trying to punish them. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.560 You're proving what people are saying. You're proving the power 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.320 that you have every time you come at somebody. You're 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.599 proven what people with the joke is. You're proving the 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.719 joke is what I'm saying. Do you see what I do? 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.000 You understand what I'm saying? So? Yeah? So is it 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.240 is it even needed? Is it necessary? Do we need 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:32.440 a league like that? We need something? Good? Prayer? It's 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:37.920 just not enough. Um. I also saw on Instagram that 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:44.760 Savage said that NAS is not relevant. I know they 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.439 were on a clubhouse forum and they were talking about 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:53.040 what relevancy is and NAS is impact and it got 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.679 into like a heated debate, and he says that NAS 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.560 is not relevant. He only has his fan base. Do 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.880 you agree with that? So? Okay, we know we're talking 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.240 about two different people, two different rappers, from two different erarors. Okay, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.200 twenty one Savage came up on the mumble wrap era. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.199 I like twenty one Savage. I can tell twenty one 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.160 Savage was raised by a man you know, based on 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:21.280 his conversation. I don't think that, um so okay, So 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.560 twenty one Savage. NAS may not be relevant to twenty 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.320 one Savage and twenty one savages fan base, right, but 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.200 NAS is definitely relevant to a lot of people, especially 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.840 maybe our age group and older. And that is one 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.000 of the things that twenty one Savage said. He was like, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.520 you know, if I if I were to have a 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.280 concert and I came out of ninety five and I 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.120 have a concert in two and all of my um 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.960 fans from from came to my concert, does that really 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.840 make me relevant or do I just have a strong 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:54.320 fan base? So I get that, but relevant to who? 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.840 And I feel like social media now maybe it's NAS 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.880 is not relevant on social media as much as but 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.360 if you have a strong fan base, that would make 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.760 you relevant. These people still align right right there because 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.560 they over thirty, you know. So I think because we 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.400 don't see nas fhase plasid on social media all the 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.560 time like we see other people, or maybe when a 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.320 jay Z does something is a little bit um more profound. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.440 I don't know, but I listened to nas last album. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.440 I haven't listened to the most recent one that just 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.640 came out. But that last album was a fucking hit. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.760 I don't know why, Like I still listen to it. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.480 I don't know why people ain't on it. Maybe it's 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.440 just because it's not their age before, and maybe they 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.800 don't like the flow anymore. I don't know, but I 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.320 listened to learn things. That's why I like NAS album. Yeah, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.520 I'm you know, I'm a fan of Nas. I haven't 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.359 listened to like none of his new ship. I'm illmatic, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:52.120 still mad, you know, all that ship. But I guess 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.360 you can be relevant to forty year olds, but there's 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.960 a lot of us. I mean, I know, m a 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:05.640 R forty. I'm not That's why I said, y'all like 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.360 that we're adding on to my name numbers, but not 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.120 to me. NAS is relevant. Nas is so fucking fine. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.320 I like NAS, like I want to haul at NAS, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.680 but I could. I just think Nas might be like 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.360 a little bit socially awkward. You don't get that from him. Oh, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.840 I don't know. You don't know what to know about Nas, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:30.560 right right? Yeah? But I mean he's in all things tech, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.640 like all the things that young boys are doing, like Crypto, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.960 all these tech things. Like NAS has all types of businesses, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.680 all types of ship to make him relevant. So it 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.960 just depends on what's relevant to you. Because I don't 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.480 think Nas gonna ever not be relevant, especially in hip hop, right. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.560 I don't know there's some little nigga ship, but I 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.400 mean he not headlines in those shows no more. I 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.720 guess that's what he's meaning. Like, do you think like 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.240 these big ticket shows, Nas is not gonna be a 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.199 headliner on Do you think that this new album with 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:12.360 Drake it's kind of helping twenty one Savages career? Absolutely? 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.480 Because I listened to Savage albums like I like twenty 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.600 one Savage as a person, I don't necessary like his 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.520 music like that. I haven't listened to the album yet, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:27.080 though you know I like the album. I don't know 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.120 if I'm the target audience anymore. Because he was talking 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.199 about tell me your fence to show me who you 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.399 really are, and I'm like, bit, I'm too grown to 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.280 have no fence to that. It's not that line was 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.639 not for me, no, But you know, offenses like you 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.639 got like a little secret account where you could be 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.119 your cell phone. So all right, but it's it's grown. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.160 It's grown. Yeah, especially celebrities like they can't. They gotta 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.240 put on this image as as a celebrity. So what 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:53.920 are you saying is let me see that of fences, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.680 I can see the real you bitch, be yourself. These 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.840 bitches don'ta being a self, so they you know, grown 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.560 ass Listen, I thought Fenster was for bitches who was 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.200 hiding from their mama. You hide from the world. Yeah, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.399 so they can comment and say that ship they really 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.439 be wanting to say to people. So basically, that's the 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.199 first problem. If you're a grownass woman, you gotta have 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.760 a fence that you need to reevaluate your life. You 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:25.600 out here faking my page is my page. You're gonna 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.960 get who I am all day and the same, the 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.560 same person. Yep. I don't know. Sometimes I be wanting 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.080 to say something sh it now, I wanted to be 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:36.440 my face on it, so I can understand having offense 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.080 to it. I am about to go create one. I 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.960 got several accounts, but I'm not about to be uh, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.480 I just say that ship. Maybe that's a problem. Maybe 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.400 I need me offense to because I just be saying 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.240 whatever I want under anybody post. You don't like it, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.439 go to church about it, talk to the right all right, y'all, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.080 we're gonna go to commercial. But when we come back, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.919 we have the amazing Kelvin Davis. He is the author 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:04.480 of Notoriously Dapper. He is a man who's all about 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.960 body positivity for men, and we really want to talk 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.639 to him because we want you all to stop wearing 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.920 them shirts in the pool. Y'all don't need them T 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.760 shirts in the pool. So come back and listen to 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.280 Mr Kelvin Davis so he can draw some jewels for y'all. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:24.919 We'll be right back. We have a special guest on 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:29.040 we talked back this week. Okay. He's an sc native 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.320 and he'd be putting that ship on. Okay, we got 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:36.720 the we got the expools it. Mr Calvin Davis, also 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.000 known as a Notoriously Dapper. He's a founder and creator 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.880 of Notoriously Dapper, a super body positive style guide from 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.600 men of all shapes and sizes. And essentially, you are 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.680 here killing it because you're like the first black, big 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.360 and tall model for Gap and Target tar J. Right, 0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:03.000 y'all welcome Mr notoriously zapp until we talk back. Kelvin Davis, 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.119 thank you for joining us yet, thank you guys for 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:10.359 having me. Yeah, I'm exciting. You look good, goddamn it 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.760 I do. Yeah good. You know I'm I'm sitting here 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:19.320 in my enchanted for us, as you call it. Yeah. So, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.119 being a man from South Carolina, from Columbia, South Carolina, 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.320 you know that eating is like part of our culture, 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:34.359 is like entertainment, and gaining weight is part of our culture. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.879 You know. We like we we drenched everything in butter 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.159 in the South, you know. And rice rice go, Like 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.359 at my mama's house, you will order a pizza and 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:45.920 it will still be a pot of rice on that 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:51.119 for whatever reason, I don't know. So with that being said, 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.399 do you feel like men can feel like conscious about 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.840 their bodies Like I feel like when we were growing up, 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.440 they weren't allowed like if you gain weight and you 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.880 got big or whatever, you weren't allowed to have like 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.000 insecurities about your body as a man for sure. Yeah. 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.600 You know, I noticed when I got to high school, 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.240 really was when I started to feel like a little 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:18.280 bit of insecurity towards my body because I was surrounded 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.000 by like what this societal standard of male beauty was 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.640 because I like worked at Abercrombie, I worked at Like Express, 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.880 I worked at all these stores in the mall. So 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.600 every time, like we would put up these ads, I 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.680 would be like, damn, you know, any of these dudes 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.439 look anything like But there's dudes that look like me 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.280 coming here all the time, they go shopping, you know 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.120 what I mean. So and then, um, it was really 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.960 around like my sophomore year of high school when I started, 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.359 when I started developing a lot more stretch marks on 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.080 my back and stomach. I started to, like buil a 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.680 little bit insecure. But I come from a family where 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:55.119 both were like both of my parents are very body 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.320 positive and they're very much like you know, love who 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.280 you are, Love the fact that you're black, love the 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.680 fact that you're big, all these different things. So around 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.840 like my senior gear was when I started to feel 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.320 a little bit more confident in who I was. And obviously, 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.320 like later on in life, you know, things changed and 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.840 I started to feel insecure again. But I do feel 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.200 like being a man in South Carolina, especially since our food, 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.880 like you said, it's so heavily and doubtsed in our 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.239 culture you know with rice and you know, grains and 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:36.760 butter and carves and all this stuff, right and yeah, vibration. Yeah, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.560 and don't ever go to Big Mama house like trying 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.280 to like turn down some stuffing or some rice because 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.320 because people get affected. Right. But it's like and like, 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.480 you know, God forbid you tell tell them I'm trying 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.800 to watch my I'm trying to watch my weight. They'd 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:57.320 be like boys, you mean, like that's so it was 0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.199 like one of those things where it's like you have 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.240 to like to like because you know, like you don't 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.240 want to feel like roasted, because even though you may 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.080