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Speaker 1: How do you do? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Howdy doody, I'm aka guardi B. It's Thursday, March fourth,

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Speaker 2: the fucking GUARDI B. We're ready to go. It's late

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Speaker 2: and we're ready to record. We're feeling loose, everyone's feeling happy.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit of Jazz sixers and

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Speaker 2: how Joe l the Powers that m B put it

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Speaker 2: down on Rudy go Bear and beat the Jazz in overtime.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: Man? I like, I'm in love with you, Mike, I'm

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Speaker 1: in love with you.

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert, the playground bully beats up first graders anytime

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Speaker 2: he has to go up against another good center and

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Speaker 2: they give up eighty points in the paint, Bro.

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Speaker 1: And gave him forty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: And it's like you said, Mike, like like, whenever I

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Speaker 3: see Gobert, I think about that motherfucking there will be

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Speaker 3: bloodshit like that crazy I drink your milk. Like all

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Speaker 3: the bigs eat against that dude, Bro. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: taking anything from him. He's one of the best defender

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Speaker 3: room defenders in the league.

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Speaker 1: But but I mean, he was food tonight. Tonight. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: he was.

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Speaker 2: Food against the Pelicans. The Pelicans course seventy six points

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Speaker 2: on those dudes in the paint. They took seven three

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Speaker 2: pointers or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: Zion Cooks go bear, And you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like this is he's been doing. That's just like preseason season, Zion, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's when I could play

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old, first time stepping on the NBA court.

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Speaker 1: Zion May go Bear look like a fucking rudy out here.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Hey, but but look the

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Speaker 2: Jazz Go Beart and Donovan Mitchell, and we all love

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Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, but they were all talking after the game about, oh,

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Speaker 2: we don't get any calls from the refs. But first

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Speaker 2: of all, you're in first place, not getting any calls

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Speaker 2: from the rest. And second of all, welcome to first place. Bro,

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Speaker 2: everyone's playing harder against you. You're on national TV, the

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Speaker 2: spotlights brighter. Yeah, everyone's giving your center who's supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: You know this dude that that people bother to get

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Speaker 2: mad about on the internet, Everyone's giving him work.

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Speaker 1: Like, welcome to first place. I love Donovan Mitchell. You

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Speaker 1: shot thirty four shots thirty three points off thirty four

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Speaker 1: shots twelve from the thirty four from the field. Go bear.

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Speaker 4: Your defensive player of the Year candidate doesn't play that

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Speaker 4: defensive player year. It looks like food EMBIID turn turn

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Speaker 4: him in favors in the fucking food all game.

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Speaker 1: Clarkson, the six man candidate doesn't play like he goes

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Speaker 1: straight for ten from the field.

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Speaker 4: Like regardless of if EMBIID fucking puts up forty and

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Speaker 4: twenty on you, or if Tobias Harris gets twenty to ten,

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Speaker 4: he goes off in the in overtime, nigga, Like, Bro,

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna win games when y'all are playing that way,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like so like, I just

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Speaker 4: like you didn't play good enough. If you hit more shots,

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Speaker 4: maybe Donovan thirty twelve for thirty four from the fucking

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Speaker 4: field and you're talking about the reps.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. But according to Donovan.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't care that he has won tonight in his heart,

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Speaker 3: as he said that folk.

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Speaker 1: Sta, what the fuck that doesn't show up on the

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Speaker 1: stats seat Donava.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I just.

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Speaker 5: That's let's not get that's that's kind of prima Donnay,

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Speaker 5: that's not you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, you

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Speaker 5: you know that's not very Utah merrill shoe wearing shit

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Speaker 1: You know, remember member roots, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, Bro, Like, stop chill out, Bro, you gotta play better,

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Speaker 4: y'all gotta play better.

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Speaker 2: We the three of us, and none of us are.

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Speaker 2: None of us like it when people talk about, oh,

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Speaker 2: basketball was better in the nineties when it was more

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Speaker 2: physical or whatever, none of us believe that, right. But

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Speaker 2: I also will not go for people saying they're not

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Speaker 2: getting enough foul calls in the NBA in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Like that's what the problem was with the NBA tonight,

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Speaker 1: When you went twelve for thirty four.

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Speaker 4: When you went twelve for thirty, you know when you

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Speaker 4: had a great game and you know, like bro, y'all

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Speaker 4: just didn't the players that were supposed to play good

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Speaker 4: for y'all to win didn't. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's what makes y'all amazing this year is that y'all

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Speaker 4: have a defensive Player of the Year candidate, that you

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Speaker 4: have a six man of the Year candidate. It's you're

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Speaker 4: an incredible player, Donovan, and none of that showed up tonight.

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Speaker 4: You feel me and you don't win?

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Speaker 1: Cool, move on.

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Speaker 4: And it was a playoff game and you probably put

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Speaker 4: a little sick over the l Yeah you lost on

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Speaker 4: ot whatever, But.

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Speaker 1: That's a cop out. That's lame.

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Speaker 3: I also love that courteous ass tantrum that Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 3: threw going to the locker room to y'all said, that.

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Speaker 1: Ship so fine. He's such a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: He smacked the fun out of that gator a staff

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Speaker 3: worker and he ran up to the staff worker. Make

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Speaker 3: sure I mean did so that was That was such

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Speaker 3: a considerate tantrum right.

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Speaker 4: There he was.

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Speaker 1: But he ain't never too mad to be nice. You

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Speaker 1: know what? I mean, I love that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: love Donovan Mitchell. He's fun to watch. He's a great dude.

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Speaker 1: He's always doing solar ship. But this is that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's the way to approach this, l Bro. That's

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Speaker 1: not the rest of the reason you lost. The reason

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Speaker 1: you lost are y'all didn't play good enough to win.

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Speaker 2: But that's three But that's three losses in four games

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Speaker 2: to the Pelicans, the Heat, and the Sixers. There was

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Speaker 2: a common theme of some of the things we've relied upon,

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Speaker 2: like our center are looking like gibbles.

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Speaker 1: And bits cook food.

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Speaker 2: Bro, So I get I did. My favorite moment in

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Speaker 2: the whole game, to be honest with you, was he

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Speaker 2: slapped the water cooler over and before it even hit

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Speaker 2: the ground, he's apologizing. He's such a good dude, Bro.

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Speaker 4: I love.

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Speaker 2: All right, John, you wanted to talk about the the

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Speaker 2: fact that championships are still considered the ultimate measure of

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Speaker 2: basketball players. What did you want to say about I was.

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Speaker 4: Watching Mellow talk about little Mellow. You know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not not little little little Mellow Lamello whatever.

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Speaker 3: You're touching you.

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Speaker 2: You were watching Carl talk about Lamb.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like dog like people. Somebody said that Mellow

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Speaker 1: won't get the respect he deserves. You know what I

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Speaker 1: mean that you know you know and and I don't

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Speaker 1: think he will. And you know he never know.

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Speaker 2: You're saying because he didn't win an NBA Champions didn't

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Speaker 2: want it, You.

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Speaker 1: Didn't want to. And it's like we saw Mellow play,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you can't tell me

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Speaker 1: that man isn't a great You know, he's a precursor

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Speaker 1: to KD. You know what I'm saying, Like when we

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Speaker 1: watched Mellow, Mellow was when when? When? When? When?

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Speaker 4: When uh T Mac went went down? You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Kobe was still getting buckets, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. Mellow was the guy that was that scored

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Speaker 4: easier than anybody else in the league.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: CP three, Look what CP three does? What is he

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Speaker 1: done in OKC? What do you do in Houston? Almost

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Speaker 1: be the best team I've ever fucking seen? With KD?

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Speaker 1: You feel me? You know what I mean? What is

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Speaker 1: he doing in Phoenix right now? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like a while ago, they said T Mex would have

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Speaker 5: got whooped by KD eleven or two. If t Mac

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Speaker 5: gets whooped bo KD eleven or two, everybody in the

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Speaker 5: league will get whooped bo KD eleven or two. You

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, That's how good Team Mech was.

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Speaker 5: That's how good KD is. But that's how good T

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Speaker 5: Mech was, you know what I mean. Like, I'm just

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Speaker 5: tired of like, you know, like people, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Berkley, I mean, but okay, but you say that, but

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Speaker 2: we're all still like counting down waiting hoping bron gets

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Speaker 2: six rings, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that that's that's for us, because that's

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Speaker 1: that's for me personally. You feel me. I I don't

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Speaker 1: think Brun's already to go to me.

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Speaker 4: He's the best basketball player I've ever seen play basketball, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't need the chips.

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Speaker 2: Know that he needs the sixth the sixth.

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Speaker 1: The sixth.

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Speaker 4: The six is for weirdos on the internet to leave

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Speaker 4: me the funk alone when I have my thigion.

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Speaker 1: It's not because he's gonna help me, believe I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't need CP three to win a chip for

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Speaker 1: me to not to see what CP three does.

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Speaker 4: In the court, or Mellow or Barkley did, or what

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Speaker 4: T MAC did before he got hurt before he left injuries.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just kind of sick that, like a

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Speaker 4: lot of these players are forgotten or ship on because

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Speaker 4: they never won the big one or never got the chip.

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Speaker 1: But what I like, Bro, we see it. We saw

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Speaker 1: mellow on the court. We see what see We see

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Speaker 1: what these guys have done.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like T Mac, what T

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Speaker 6: Mac is gonna get whooped by Katie eleven or two?

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what we're.

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Speaker 7: Saying now, like we actually want We watched team at

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Speaker 7: Blaye w It was a conversation if it was his league,

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Speaker 7: you know, between him and Kobe, we had these top conversations.

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Speaker 1: Kobe said he was the hardest person he ever guarded.

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Speaker 4: Like, let's like, I think it's ridiculous how we're approaching

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Speaker 4: like great players and not showing loaf.

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Speaker 1: They never want chips, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's played is dated with a lot

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Speaker 4: of great players that did a lot of great things

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Speaker 4: for the league in the and in the league are

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Speaker 4: not getting the love they deserve because they never want

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Speaker 4: to ship Fuck that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick of that shit. I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 3: I do think that rings culture is out of control now,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, we gotta find a healthy balance to

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Speaker 3: where I guess we properly assess championships and circumstances. Because

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Speaker 3: take a guy like Dirt, that one ring means so

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Speaker 3: much to Dirk bro to Dirk's legacy, to Dirk story,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's like the first thing

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Speaker 3: I think about when we mentioned Dirk is that fucking

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Speaker 3: two thousand and live round perhaps the greatest fucking playoff

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Speaker 3: runt ever if you look at the trail of bodies

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Speaker 3: he left beyond right, like, oh yeah, you know the

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Speaker 3: Brandon Roy Trailblazers, you know the kd run Hardened Okay,

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Speaker 3: see you know Kobe.

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Speaker 1: And Pale and then bron Way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's like the most impressive trailer bodies

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Speaker 3: ever left on the playoff in front of my my.

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Speaker 2: Shot one hundred and seven from the free throw line. Right.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, to take away from a guy's legacy

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Speaker 4: A fucking in a team sport because they never wanted to, Like,

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't against against the Bulls, but Tyler want

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Speaker 2: But Tyler's right, it does mean something.

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Speaker 4: That is what we rely on basically solely at this

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Speaker 3: Had to average forty one a game in a in

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Speaker 4: And like you know, when we when we see people

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Speaker 2: But the people that you're making fun of for saying

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Speaker 2: I mean. The problem with ring culture now is it's

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Speaker 1: It's fun when they to me, it's fun when they

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Speaker 4: To me, it's fun when they do it when you're arguing,

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Speaker 4: like like come on, man, like to go unbeaten in

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Speaker 4: come on, dog, like I mean, I just, I just

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Speaker 4: it's just when I'm when I think about these players

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Speaker 1: Seeing that I'm looking at this guy like motherfucker's gonna

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Speaker 4: Duel like he was the guy. I mean, like for

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Speaker 4: for years he was the best scorer in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's sick to me.

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Speaker 2: Has there been a better representation of like what is

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Speaker 2: Man, everyone being in everyone's mentions about the Mellow nickname

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like these dudes don't give a fuck about

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Speaker 3: Listen, motherfuckers just want to complain about it because we

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Speaker 3: sanctity of the Mellow nicknames.

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Speaker 1: Just want to be irritated, really annoyed about something.

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Speaker 4: In that same game, I said, I'm shot, how is

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Speaker 4: Mellow this good? Talking about Lom Mellow, who was the

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Speaker 1: At the time, you know, what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And listen, that's hoeople names work.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many jujus I've covered in high

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Speaker 2: school football in Long Beach, California. We got three jujus

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Speaker 2: Now guess what, there's still three jujus at the same

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Speaker 2: high school. Right Like, on every good high school soccer team,

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Speaker 2: the best striker is named Poyo. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Like it's the nickname stay the players moved through. It's

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Jalen Rose. Like having a

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Speaker 2: great name, the name is gonna be passed down. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a Mellow in the league for I'm surprised

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Speaker 2: we don't have a Shock right now, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one Shack. That's howigames work, bro,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean there's multiple Superman. You know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: but like I tweeted about Mellow in the game that

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Speaker 1: people were saying, like I was he good, He's been

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Speaker 4: I'm like, shut the fuck up, Like, don't like you

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Speaker 4: are purposely being a fucking weird old dog and then

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Speaker 4: it was so cool, Like I just muted the tweet.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to hear none of these

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the game, Mellow says that

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Speaker 1: ship and I tweeked the ship for all you weirdos

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Speaker 1: that are caught up in this fucking weird with your chest.

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Speaker 4: Bro, I said, weirdos, you know what I mean, all

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Speaker 4: neck and chests in that motherfucker full long dog.

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Speaker 1: Stop it quit being lame. That's focused on the game,

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Speaker 1: that's focused on basketball. The lame ship is fun. All

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Speaker 1: that's corny.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys see speaking of shock, did you guys

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Speaker 2: see the exchange Tuesday night between Shaq and kandas Parker

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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 4: Didn't see this ship, Like, bro, this is this, This

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Speaker 4: is sex, sex in trouble, I'll say, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying like shack seck, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 2: Before before we say anything about Shaq, let me say this.

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Speaker 2: Candace Parker is like I would take her over almost

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Speaker 2: anyone on any table in any sport right now.

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Speaker 1: It's so fucking good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Pat Summit saying she was the smartest

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Speaker 3: player she ever coached fucking.

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Speaker 1: Pat some fucking summit.

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Speaker 3: One of the greatest basketball I ever said. This was

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Speaker 3: the smartest player I ever had. So yeah, Cannis knows

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Speaker 3: her ship.

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Speaker 2: Man. I've told you guys, man, I've gotten an interview

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Speaker 2: a lot of people, but getting to cover Candace U,

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Speaker 2: Candas Parker with the Sparks, those are some of the

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Speaker 2: best interviews I've ever had in my career because she

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Speaker 2: was like she was always like she'd finished your question

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Speaker 2: for you, you know what I mean, She knew what

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Speaker 2: you were trying to get to. She would like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: she improved my knowledge of basketball as a reporter asking

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Speaker 2: her questions, you know what I mean. And she watching

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Speaker 2: that look she gave Shack frustration.

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Speaker 4: It was like, why am I talking about this? It

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Speaker 4: was like, this is foundational, right, we understand okay. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's why that's why I think Shack's in trouble, because.

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Speaker 1: He's stuck in what was Listen, Shack, that ship dead

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Speaker 1: bro is over with.

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Speaker 4: The game has changed, things have changed. You gotta approach

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Speaker 4: things differently. And that's why I say he's in trouble.

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Speaker 4: He's still Shack with the man got her. He gotta

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Speaker 4: he gotta let that, let the past go.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Candice was so bewildered she had to explain defensive rotations

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Speaker 3: to a legend like Shaq, like she could not believe

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Speaker 3: what was happening at that moment. It was something to see.

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Speaker 1: Man saw it, Shaq saw why her point, why she

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Speaker 1: made the point, you know what I mean? And still like,

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Speaker 1: why can't what's that? Man?

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Speaker 4: Why can't you just think of pro let the toxic

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Speaker 4: masculated He go, dog, you feel me? Just man up,

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Speaker 4: guard your bro, Like just Shaq, you see you see

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Speaker 4: what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Why are we arguing this? It's like I think Shaq

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Speaker 3: Shaq just sees the game through the lens of when

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Speaker 3: he played, you know what I mean, Like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like like Shaq cannot imagine getting switched out and having

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Speaker 3: to you know, rush a four shooting a corner three right.

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Speaker 3: Shack can never imagine that. So this ship is like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's fucking triggeronometry. Then he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, I don't think it's trigger crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's not the most complicated.

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Speaker 1: Shit's making it triggerometry.

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Speaker 4: It's really fourth grade long division maybe you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like, and he's making it triggered because he's

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Speaker 4: just doesn't want to see it and and and that's

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Speaker 4: and that's the thing, like you know, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: he's just one of those guys. We're like, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just like it's just.

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Speaker 1: Had to offen. Like like, bro, all the games played, right,

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Speaker 1: we watch it every night together.

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Speaker 2: If you've ever disappointed a black person, you know the

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Speaker 2: you know the feelings. And she gave him the quick

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Speaker 2: look and then spun the look at the way.

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Speaker 1: Bro, like that's that nigga, Please look, that's that inn bomb. Please, bro,

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Speaker 1: Like come on, And she hit him with it and

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Speaker 1: he deserved it, like you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like, like you said, that's.

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Speaker 2: Like they switch.

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Speaker 4: That's not the one you want to cry, especially on

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Speaker 4: some remedialize ship, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Foundational knowledge anyway, God bless good luck.

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Speaker 2: Luck you feel ship, Bro. I'm sure I'm sure it'll

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Speaker 2: work out for him.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what time it is?

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Speaker 2: It's time for the group chat? Can we talk about

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Speaker 2: my favorite story of the week, The Absolute caper holds

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Speaker 2: on Nike by the mother son tandem of Anne and Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure how to say the last name.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a Bear because I think that's the

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Speaker 2: funniest way to say it.

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Speaker 3: Might I've been saying that I'm been going that ship Herbert.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was Herbert too, which makes it even

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Speaker 3: funnier that Herbert's are out here yanking every motherfucking body.

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Speaker 8: Herbert's are out here running the shoegame. That's the that's

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Speaker 8: the problem with the shoegame, Herbert. Too many Herberts out

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Speaker 8: here involved in this ship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me walk through some of the basic facts

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Speaker 2: on this ship, because it's one of the rare stories

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Speaker 2: where the truth of what happened is crazier than anything

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Speaker 2: you could make up. This kid was totally using either

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Speaker 2: with her knowledge or without, I believe, with her not college,

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Speaker 2: his mom's senior position at Nike to move weight. Bro,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was posting pictures. He had to rent

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Speaker 2: a warehouse.

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Speaker 1: He's the old Schoppo of fucking sneakers, Bro, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He was making like a quarter mill a month and

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Speaker 2: was making so much money that he went looking for

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Speaker 2: He was calling reporters saying, someone should profile my company,

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Speaker 2: West Coast Streetwear, which by the way, is the most

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00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm a nineteen year old ship ever.

438
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: I saw that, like, like the whole story here is,

439
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: you know, and we discussed this. It's it's not about

440
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: the money for this kid. I don't think you know,

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: he grew up rich. He wants the cloud, he wants

442
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: the record. Yeah, which is why he went out, you know,

443
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: calling publications trying to get profile and seeing that West

444
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 3: Coast Street where I was like, this.

445
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: Is the most want to be down as motherfuck.

446
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: Bro, this is a door that had a mom in

447
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: high at a high position, and he fucked it up.

448
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like.

449
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: Bro, just for both of them, but both of them.

450
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: But she lived there like twenty five thirty years and

451
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: she told him about it.

452
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: She told about it. Listen. Do you know when you

453
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: lose your exit package from a company, like.

454
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: When she lost the exit past package. I thought she

455
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: I thought she was getting.

456
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: She's quitting to try and avoid being arrested.

457
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is like ament sh bro, you ain't

458
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: getting that.

459
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: Sat not getting her.

460
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: She's not getting a golden handshake or quitting.

461
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 4: She was gonna cash out on the resign ship, like

462
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 4: let's make a deal and then you know, I'm gonna

463
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 4: get out your hair.

464
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: You feel me.

465
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: There's no deals when you don't have any cards, bro.

466
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: So she was in charge of the sneakers app.

467
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge conflicate interest here, huge fucking conflicate interests.

468
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: But I mean she told them, she told them that

469
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: her son was doing this, and they was like, Okay,

470
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: that's cool whatever, but they didn't know.

471
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: You know, the dude who had a warehouse, a Nike warehouse.

472
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 4: Full of fucking Nikes under West Coast whatever the fuck

473
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 4: was straightwear.

474
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: But and it's it's worse than that too. Like he

475
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: he was he would know, oh this is about Nike's

476
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: about to pull this, and he was stock up on stuff.

477
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: Right.

478
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: This is inside sneaker trading, right, like dark swinging the game.

479
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: That's why, you know what I'm saying.

480
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 4: That's why I don't even fuck with that ship no more.

481
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: That's all that's really that is genuinely frustrating, you know

482
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: what I mean. Remember what I'm gonna sound like shack

483
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: right now.

484
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: Remember back when I was waiting, You know what I

485
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: mean like, no, we can.

486
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: We can walk up too somebody based on the sneakers

487
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 4: they had, We could have a real conversation, right it

488
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 4: was It was It was before the hype and all

489
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 4: that ship, when sneaker culture was almost for sneaker nerds, bro,

490
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, Like I was fucking

491
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 4: with ship like Reggie Whites and all type of Cordell

492
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 4: Stewarts and all. You know what I mean, It wasn't

493
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: just about the hype and you can sit down and

494
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: wrap about the culture and why this shoe was made

495
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 4: this way and what Tinker was thinking when he made these.

496
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: George whatever the fuck you know I mean? And now

497
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: it's all about hype, Bro, you do.

498
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: So we got Herberts, dude, that's the that's the pre

499
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Herbert era bro defense that now.

500
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 4: We got we've belt wearing motherfucker's running the sneakers ship.

501
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: And it's really sickening to me, bro, Like it's like

502
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: dog Man.

503
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: There definitely was a time where you know, you see

504
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: someone with some domonitors on, you roll up on like, yo,

505
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: I love the domitors. He was like I had a

506
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 3: pants and this grade Like yeah, I had. It's not

507
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: like that anymore. Bro, Like I don't think, Yeah, I

508
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 3: don't think people have an understanding of like the history

509
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: of the retros that please put out. It's it's just

510
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: hype the ship right now, and it's nice. I am

511
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: all my shack ship too. We are angry old men today, right.

512
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: It ain't fun. This ship ain't fun the ship. The

513
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: ship used to be fun. Bro, when you you could

514
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: collect it wasn't like a box weren't involved.

515
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, like you didn't see

516
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: like whoever had the most money had you know, it

517
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: wasn't another day, you know what I mean, Like we

518
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: would go and search and find sticks, like multiple stores

519
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: come up, you know what I mean, Get d M

520
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 4: p P for half fall.

521
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, shit like that, It like

522
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: Glicks or some weird ass store that nobody went to,

523
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like and that was a vibe.

524
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: And now you got people like Herbert, the Herberts. You

525
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, moving weight for the clout, you know,

526
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 4: a fucking dort.

527
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, full the street, top of

528
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: a stack of boxes.

529
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

530
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: Like dog you look and you ain't still ain't fucking nutty,

531
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: you know how much would Johnny did he not get

532
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? With all the fucking George,

533
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: you sell.

534
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 9: It and you still need the clout, Bro, you still

535
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 9: had to fuck the bag up and run to the

536
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 9: police basically and tell on yourself because you got thirsty

537
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 9: dog leader.

538
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: He was showing account sheets.

539
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 8: Norns aren't ruining basketball, They're ruining the Sniker game.

540
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: Okay, He's showing account statements to the reporter to show off, Like,

541
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: look how much money I'm making and his mom's name

542
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: is on the credit car.

543
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: He's wildy, thirsty, all all these all these these off

544
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: white fives. He had you feel me and still, bro,

545
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: you still ain't got the type of attention you want.

546
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: Like, Bro, just stop it, man.

547
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: All those sneakers are not going to fill that boy.

548
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 4: In your heart, Herbert, that big black hole in your heart, Herbert, Herbert,

549
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 4: that unquit for cloud.

550
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Will not be quitched by kids thirsty for clout, you

551
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

552
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: Like, Damn, it's crazy you turn it. You fucked up

553
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 2: a lot of money for that one.

554
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

555
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: Bro, imagine making that type of money and anybody knows anything, like.

556
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, come on, bro, Like.

557
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: The last thing I'm doing is this at the current moment,

558
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: I have three scams going, none of which are that lucrative.

559
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: And I would never talk to the media about any

560
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: of that ship and I handled the media. This ship

561
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: is crazy, bro, Like he's done what I do and

562
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: just DM with fucking Marrow about it on Twitter.

563
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: Bro.

564
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: Imagine imagine having all these figures and putting your face

565
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: out there, knowing how foul this ship is you're doing.

566
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Just how much everyone hates

567
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: what you've done. You know what I mean.

568
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: It's ugly, man, It's an ugly world are we living in?

569
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: You know?

570
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: Best, best of luck to the Herberts, no, no worse,

571
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: the luck to the Herbert.

572
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't need no fucking luck Herbert. Motherfucker's worst.

573
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: The luck to the Herberts, resting piss to the Herberts.

574
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm with it. I don't give a right fucking Herbert.

575
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: Fuck Herbert, not just the Herberts. You know Herbert's period.

576
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,480
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577
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578
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,720
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579
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: absolutely free to play on the fandual app and features

580
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581
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240
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582
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: you can win real cash prizes. So while you're watching

583
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: the game, all you have to do is predict the

584
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: outcomes of plays and game props before they happen to

585
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: claim your share of the prize pool. Best of all,

586
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587
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590
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591
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592
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593
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594
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596
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Speaker 2: now back to the show.

597
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: There was an NFL reporter here that the subject of

598
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: unpaid internships came up on, and I would like to

599
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: say fuck unpaid internships, but before the sake of the story,

600
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: I wanted to keep things with me here.

601
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: We'll come back to that. Put a pin in that

602
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: we'll come back to that.

603
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, so there's this this NFL reporter who too

604
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: talked about how she posted, you know, posting for an

605
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: unpaid internship, and she was like, you know, she's you know,

606
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: getting you know, people asking is this going to be paid?

607
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: She's like, I can't believe that people want to get

608
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: paid for this. You know, I busted my ass for

609
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: unturned internships. I lived on sixteen thousand dollars a year

610
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: for my first two years working in the field. But yeah,

611
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: I mean the biggest story here is, like you know,

612
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: I said, fuck unpaid internships.

613
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: They are there.

614
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: They are on way to gate key, as simple as that.

615
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Because there are people, plenty of people out here who

616
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: want to work in sports and who can't afford to

617
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: intern for free because they got meals to pay, they

618
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: got rent to pay, they gotta fucking eat. And then

619
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 3: there are people who can do unpaid internships because they

620
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: have a safety that's supporting them. They got you know,

621
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: family holding them down financially. They know if this shit

622
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: doesn't work out that you know, there's a backup plan here,

623
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: and they're going to be financially stable. Throughout whatever you know,

624
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: man curse. So I mean it comes down to the

625
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: whole thing where people say, oh, you say on privileged,

626
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: like I didn't work for this. I'm sure you busted

627
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: your ass for it, but you had a sainty net

628
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: there that a lot of people didn't, you know what

629
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I think that's what people need to realize.

630
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: And you had a you also had a it's because

631
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: you're right. It's like people get offended, like, oh, you're

632
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: saying I didn't work for it. It's not that you

633
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: didn't work for it. It's that you you had not

634
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: just the safety net, but an open door to you

635
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: that was not available to me or you know, probably

636
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: you guys to most people who don't come from Chili

637
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: bearing money, but I do. I mean, it's like unpaid

638
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: internships are a form of like financial and thus racial nepotism,

639
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: right that it's like, do you come from a family

640
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: that lets you do this? And what bothers me about

641
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: the whole unpaid internship thing is the one part of

642
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: the conversation I thought I thought I missed on Twitter

643
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: is it's not just sports, it's journalism. It's sports, it's

644
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: entertainment crazy and entertainment, you know, and entertainment you gotta like,

645
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: if you're trying to get on a crew in a union,

646
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: you got to work at a horrible rate for like

647
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: a year before you can get into the union for

648
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: set decorating shit like that, right, and it perpetuates all

649
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: that stuff that we're just talking about. But it's also

650
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: just a numbers game. I'll give you Long Beach State

651
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: for example. At our local university, everyone wants so people

652
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: want to work in sports, and so there's more supply

653
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: of people or there's more demand people than there is

654
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: a supply of jobs. So as a result, you can go, Okay,

655
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: well you're gonna be unpaid for a year and then

656
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna pay you forty thousand dollars to live in

657
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: southern California the first year or something, right, And if

658
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: you don't like it, I'm gonna look you in the

659
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: eye say I have fifty people who would take your job.

660
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: And fact, and it's a dead fucking fact. That's the problem.

661
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: When JJ and I started our first website in two

662
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, we're twenty three years old, we had

663
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: no fucking anything. I got an email from a dude

664
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: our second week who'd been a journalist the La Times

665
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: for twenty five years, who got laid off and was

666
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: offering to work for free to keep his name out there.

667
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: This is a fifty something year old dude who won

668
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: awards as a journalist emailing a twenty three year old

669
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: to say, I will work for free, Like that is

670
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: That's what it is. And so if you are a

671
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: college kid who you know, like me, like whoever, you

672
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: didn't have the money to do an unpaid internship, that's

673
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: what you have to compete against for step one on

674
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: the ladder. H Like that's why it the whole thing

675
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: is so rigged. It just doesn't even make sense. Like

676
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: these are the when we talk about, like when everyone's

677
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: talking about structural inequality and racism and shit over the summer,

678
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: Like these are the unsolvable problems you're talking about, because

679
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: even if you take on paid internships away, it's still

680
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: the numbers game of a thousand people want your job.

681
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: Right and and and to your point, you know a

682
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: lot of people say, well, if you don't want to

683
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: do for free, you know, make weight, because there's plenty

684
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: of other people who will do for free. And You're

685
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: absolutely right, But why are we fucking making excuses for

686
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: rich people to be cheap?

687
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: Like like, why are we like like like that, you

688
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like they might try that, but yeah,

689
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: for us to be like, you know, to make excuses

690
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: for that, that's so that is so weird, you know

691
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: what I mean. I don't I don't get that part

692
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: playing ourselves, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah.

693
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: Like you just say, it's a numbers game, so I'm

694
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: gonna do it even though it's shitty. That's their right

695
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: because they're the ones who have all the money. We

696
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: don't have to pretend that it's like spiritually beneficial, you

697
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, to like to have to overcome

698
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: all this shit just to get your foot in the

699
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: door in sports.

700
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Right right?

701
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean all that grinding, all that grinding that you

702
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: did would not mean any less if you were getting

703
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: a fucking direct deposit every other week for it.

704
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Like it's as simple as that, bro.

705
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you know, people people kind of

706
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: do the whole you know, mythologizing themselves, Like you know,

707
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: I did it all for free. It was I was

708
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: just following my jeams bust some ass free.

709
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: That's great.

710
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 3: You could have got paid during that too, though.

711
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Couldn't be me, you know, couldn't be me because I

712
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: would have starved to death right literally literally couldn't be me,

713
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

714
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not a surprise to me that

715
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: the three of us are on the same page about that, obviously,

716
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to. I don't know, I thought

717
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: that deserves some conversation, especially with the chili baron angle.

718
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Fucking Chili tycoon man. Until you there's so many ways

719
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to make money out.

720
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: What's the dumbest ship you've heard of? Someone being super

721
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: rich from Chili?

722
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Tycoon is up there but chili. But when I found

723
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: out he was, you know, rooted in sexist, I was like, Okay,

724
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Chili is big business in Texas.

725
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: So let me think I'm gonna get I'll start the

726
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: Wrigley family that the check chewing gum, all this other

727
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: stuff and so. And you know, growing up sports fan,

728
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: I know Wrigley Field, Okay, cool, Oh, it's the gum whatever.

729
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: There's an island off the coast of Long Beach Catalina Islands.

730
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: It used to be in the fifties you know, Sinatra

731
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: and everyone would go out there. It was like the

732
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, the playtown, party town whatever. The island is

733
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: literally owned by the Wrigley family. It's currently owned by

734
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: the Wrigley family. There's a city there, there's a public

735
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: school there. But everywhere you go that is not a

736
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: house owned by a person is owned by the Wrigley

737
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: family because of chewing gum, like a hundred years ago, bro.

738
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I can kind of see why, because

739
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: like Wrigley chewing gum still holds up today, you know

740
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like like you know, some motherfucking big

741
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: red or some juicy fruit. That shit still banged today,

742
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: So I can imagine how it was. Like a shit,

743
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: it's I don't buy it, but if someone offers me

744
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: a stick, I'm like, Okay, this is pretty cool, you

745
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Riding the last time I bought

746
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: in a like, yeah, I haven't brought the chewing gum,

747
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: and I don't know since my fucking high school days,

748
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: I guess. But like the candy back in the in

749
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: the fucking early nineteen hundreds, like good and plenty, I

750
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: did ever tried that bullshit Like fucking Rickles had to

751
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: have been like gold candy standard back then, right.

752
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: Because they were just eating cardboard with syrup on it

753
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: and ship you know what I fucking.

754
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, those fucking dog early nineteen hundreds candies the worst

755
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: shit ever.

756
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Like them fucking Circus peanuts. What is that bullshit? Man?

757
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: But that's America.

758
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Like if you look around your room right now, every

759
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: single thing in your room was invented by someone whose

760
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: family are billionaires. Now, you know what I mean?

761
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Baby powder Johnson and Johnson Bro.

762
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 4: Like them fucking cashing out on fucking baby powder bro.

763
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that's crazy.

764
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And those mother I swear those motherfuckers by a

765
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit every fucking year behind that baby powder,

766
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: My motherfucker are dying behind that ship and I've been

767
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: dying for decades.

768
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: And that shit. Is that a fast? Absolutely?

769
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's that's caused like ovary cancer for women

770
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: who have you know, used it for a long time.

771
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn. I used to use that ship like I

772
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: used that up till I was like eighteen.

773
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: Still needed it from time to time. You know, does

774
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: get a little humid out here every now. I was

775
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: a wild boy.

776
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: At eighteen, You feel poo poo poofing get the Nights

777
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: of the Souber.

778
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 2: You're currently engaged in the wildest ship I've ever heard

779
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: you talk about. You've given up sugar.

780
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: No, it's the thing my g processed sugar. First off.

781
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: First off, like I had chilled.

782
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: Out eating like bullshit like two years two three years ago,

783
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: did Tyler?

784
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, oh you did okay, And like my like

785
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: my abs went crazy.

786
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: I was like, damn bro, Like so I'm just chilling

787
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: on this whatever, right, But I'm like, I've been bullshit the.

788
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Last few like like the last month, I've been bullshit.

789
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: So my workout group was like, yo, let's do a

790
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: little challenge, a little whatever. So for six weeks we

791
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: clean up our diets to see what happened to our bodies.

792
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: And my GE's like the third day without sugar, and

793
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like this shit, I would use it.

794
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not even like cookies.

795
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: I eat cookies like once a week. That's like my

796
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: sweet or maybe cheesecake, Like I get to eat a

797
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 4: sweet once a week. But like the things that contained

798
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: sugar that I didn't know about, like my dried cranberries

799
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: that had sugar and canola oil in it.

800
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Which is not good. I'm like, I can't eat that ship.

801
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: Like so like I'm I'm getting all my sugar from

802
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 4: fruit now and that's cool and all, but like, bro,

803
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 4: like that processed sugar. I remember watching the documentary where

804
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: they showed they had had rats and they would choose

805
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: cocaine or sugar, and sugar was more addictive than cocaine was.

806
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like sugar do?

807
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that? And like, like you said you

808
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: were giving up processed sugar And my first response was literally,

809
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: oh no, like bro, no, no, dude, Like.

810
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I I like this. Today I had to take a

811
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: map at like eleven thirty, you know what I mean.

812
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: Like my mood was fucked up. You know what I mean,

813
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Like I felt like a crackhead out here.

814
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

815
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm geeking.

816
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: Do you were having full on with draws?

817
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Were draws literally like from a drug addiction? Like I

818
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: talk about coffee shit, all the talking about coffee's cracked.

819
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: This sugar crack for real, bro, But people were saying

820
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: because people who have done it, they're like, brist just

821
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: hold on for like seven to ten days.

822
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, after that, you'll feel so good.

823
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: They're approaching it like I need, Like you know what

824
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like you know, I'm like I'm fighting heroin addiction.

825
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like you know what I mean?

826
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: Like all right, you might as well be, bro.

827
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 4: I need doping beans shot right into me for the

828
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: next ten days until I can get my you know,

829
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: until I get past this heavy shit.

830
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, y'all never try that shit before you

831
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: have done this.

832
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Now, I was gonna say the thing about sugar that

833
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: I would have probably giving up his juice, Like my

834
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: wife gives me. It's a running joke that I'm like

835
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: a toddler because I love fucking juice.

836
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: You like, I gotta have his juice a three year old.

837
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

838
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: I run through so much juice in like a week,

839
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: dog Like it's a real shit. Like I drink about

840
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: a gallon of juice like a week.

841
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Bro.

842
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: That's crazy sugar, A lot.

843
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: Of sugar brow sugar.

844
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I remember.

845
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: I remember, like me and Tyler were in Atlanta and

846
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, Tyler, let's go get these balls.

847
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm my country had just just heard about us.

848
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: How he like fucking twenty seventeen. You feel me. I'm like,

849
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: this shit fire, let's go get him. And I'm like

850
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling Tyler about how far they are. I remember

851
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Tyler that shit and I just listen like he was

852
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: like on the verge of throwing up because he doesn't

853
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: like sweet shit. And it was like it was like,

854
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking atim like confused. The nigga left.

855
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: Three days later, I see ball, like three fourth of

856
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: it is still there, of course, and it's just sitting

857
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: in my refrigerator.

858
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this like this man, I.

859
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: Really don't I've never ever seen anybody not but I've

860
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: been high any NASA bowls and it's been like a

861
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: spiritual experience.

862
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: And this man was like a boy to throw up

863
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: in his mouth due to his and it's natural sweetness.

864
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 10: It's not like it's like you know this process. It's like,

865
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 10: you know, I don't know anyway, but that's what I realized.

866
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 10: You really are savory as Yeah, I am a savory motherfucker, which.

867
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: Is like I was like, I'm out here in Atlanta

868
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: and my dog is giving me some fucking honey glazed oats.

869
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: Wait, we did we did? Hit some barbecues. We hite too.

870
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm just like that there for but oats bru eating,

871
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: you're eating it for me because you got no enjoyment.

872
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: You about three or four bites. I'm like, I paid

873
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: for it. It's gonna meet you know what I mean.

874
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: Like you're showing you that he's a polite, that he's.

875
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: A kryd, you know, mentioning me right right he was.

876
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Bro, I've never tried anything.

877
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I've never tried anything like that. My mom had to

878
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: do it with sugar, cutting sugar out, cutting sugar out. Now,

879
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: my mom had to do it and she had a

880
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: similar like for her. For her doctor told her she

881
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: had to do it because she was uh, because she

882
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: needed to. But she had a similar experience to you.

883
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: She said it was like two weeks. She was like, uh.

884
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: She was just miserable because she she and I both

885
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: have horrible sweet tooth. I have a horrible sweet tooth, bro,

886
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Like I would eat those sour gummy belts until my

887
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: mouth is like on the verge of being bloody, you

888
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like if you put candy or

889
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: sugar in front of me, I would just without even

890
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: thinking about it, you know what I mean, until I.

891
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: Don't bring it in the house. I don't bring in

892
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: the house and I only get sweets. I ordered that

893
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: particular thing. That's the only thing I eat.

894
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: If I had I was pretty good at that until

895
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: I had two kids.

896
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean.

897
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: I can't really like uh, I can't really make them

898
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: bury the trick or treat candy in the backyard.

899
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 7: You know.

900
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: And I having a company and they bring old food

901
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: in here, I'll be fucking up, dog, you know what

902
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 4: I mean, Like shit, dog, you feel me? But yeah, yeah,

903
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: but like I will, like I've been at the bar.

904
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: My barber's wife makes the best cookies. Different they have

905
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: like this cookie like company they're building. That's gonna they're

906
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: gonna be cookie tycoons, I'm say on.

907
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: It, you know what I mean.

908
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: And so I get like a dozen cookies every time,

909
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: like that's without my sweet generally, and I'll sit I

910
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 4: remember one time they gave me while I was waiting

911
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: to get a cut.

912
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: I ate all twelve of the motherfuckers while waiting and

913
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: he looks at me and he's like, I have literally

914
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: never ever seen that in my life. I've never seen

915
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: anybody kill a dozen cookies that quick. I was. I

916
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: did it on some chill shit.

917
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, Bro, I usually I usually like finish these

918
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 4: cookies on the drive home in traffic if.

919
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: I get it after the cut, you know what I mean.

920
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me tell you a true story.

921
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: It's a girl Scout cookie season right now. Okay. We

922
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: got a lot of little cousins, a lot of Vincent's

923
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: friends running around. Bro, you about a gang like eighty

924
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: six order some cookies they got dropped off at the house.

925
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: The thin Min's were sitting there. I love thin Min's.

926
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: Out of the freezer is my shit, Okay. And I

927
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: put a whole box down before I literally realized what

928
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: I was doing. And then I realized, now I have

929
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: to get another box before and the kids get home.

930
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: This motherfucker smash too sleeves of thin Mints.

931
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: Like nothing, Bro, you know what I mean. It's just

932
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: like it's just it's the same shit with pizza whatever else.

933
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Like if I'm I'm good at removing it from the house.

934
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: It's in front of me. I'm just gonna eat, like

935
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: whatever is there, the thing is, I'll eat and.

936
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: Then after I get done with those doesn't I'm like,

937
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: I don't want sweets again for another week, right.

938
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But yeah, I'm not gonna

939
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: eat it tomorrow. I'm gonna eat it like next Friday.

940
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: But by like Wednesday, I'm like, oh is writing it?

941
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm like, fuck, we.

942
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Have a couple of crazy science things to talk about

943
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the show. Here, you guys want

944
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: to talk about deep fakes, which is like, really, let's

945
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: open Pandora's box here.

946
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: What do we think? Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead?

947
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: I saw it off.

948
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so how do we how do we first start

949
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: talking about deep fakes? In the group chown? I know

950
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Tyler has sent the had mentioned the tom Cruise one.

951
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: I said, I said something I sent.

952
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: I said, you sent the Bob Ross Mountain.

953
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: I sent the bo I sent the Bob Ross video,

954
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: the video of Bob Ross who is being used, Who's

955
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: dead being used in a Mountain Dew commercial. And I'm like,

956
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: this is extremely.

957
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: Gross and to be clear, to be to be clear,

958
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: if you don't know what a deep fake is, it's

959
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: a faked video of someone acting.

960
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Based using your likeness or using your likeness.

961
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: Right, So this was not a mountain dew commercial made

962
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: with Bob Rock with footage of him from when he

963
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: was alive. This is taking his likeness, his body and

964
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: animating it into.

965
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: A new you know what I mean?

966
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: Right, I feel like I feel like calling it. Their

967
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: likeness is even short. Someone get here. It is actually

968
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: them manipulated, right, And the thing is.

969
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Like one hundred years from now or like sixty years

970
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: from now, a.

971
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: Kid will be saying, I saw Bob Bob Ross died

972
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: and whatever I saw him in a mountain ducause, like

973
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 4: it was like they your eyes will tell you you

974
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: saw this guy, you know what I mean?

975
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: Like it's something like you know, like Bob Ross might

976
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: not get like how is this.

977
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: Going to be used?

978
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, like Bob Ross might not give a fuck

979
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: about you know, fucking mountain duke. Maybe he despised it

980
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: and what they stood on or whatever.

981
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: Right, but somebody who's over his estate or you know,

982
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: or over his likeness can use him to to to

983
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, to make money after he's dead,

984
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: affecting his legacy in some way like like how go

985
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: the right wills?

986
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean for everyone in entertainment that is now very

987
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: much a part of a state planning, and your work

988
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: with your agent and your lawyer is who has the

989
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: control of your tyler's right? Likeness is way too small

990
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: of a word. Who has control of the digital you?

991
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Because that now has to be assigned to someone. And

992
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: by the way, a lot of these rights that people

993
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: sign for movies and stuff, you're signing the rights to

994
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: your voice or your likeness away. If you look, for example,

995
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: at the NC DOUBLEA national letter of intent that every

996
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA scholarship athlete has signed, you sign away the

997
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: rights to your name, likeness, and image in perpetuity to

998
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA. Who knows what that could be interpreted? That?

999
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean, there will be so many Supreme Court cases

1000
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: over this shit. Who knows what that's going to apply

1001
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: to in the future. Is this technology develops, bro u

1002
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: cla going to be able to run an all time

1003
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: men's basketball team out there against the Kentucky all time

1004
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: men's basketball team in a real world simulation that people think,

1005
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean, It's really like

1006
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: we're just at the start of the roller core precipice. No.

1007
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: But I'm like, dude, like, what about like criminal activity?

1008
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: If somebody creates a deep fake of somebody doing criminal activity,

1009
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: Who's to say that happened or didn't happen, you know.

1010
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: If you don't have an alibi, Like what does that mean?

1011
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: What does that mean for video evidence?

1012
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 11: Like this ship? This it like if it gets in

1013
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 11: the wrong hands, guys, hand this is it's that that

1014
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 11: that that that that podcast you sent us about the ship.

1015
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: It talked about how this dude has twenty eight different

1016
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 4: ways to make sure something's true or not.

1017
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, if it's really if that

1018
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: that video is truly existed at one point or not,

1019
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1020
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: Media companies will not put that technology in to keep

1021
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: deep fakes from being uploaded because they want to wait

1022
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: till something gets blown up, you know what I mean.

1023
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: But like that that that Tom Cruise one I saw

1024
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: Tom Cruise Will two Tyler like that Shiit like literally

1025
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: gave me chills, bro because that that wasn't Tom Cruise,

1026
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: but it was Tom Cruise, doll, you know what I mean. Like,

1027
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: when I found out it was a deep fake, I

1028
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, it's something felt weird.

1029
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is it feels weird and normal at

1030
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: the same time. And then when I told the deep fake,

1031
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, this is some scary shit.

1032
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, there's something about how how I

1033
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: think there's something deeply and better than us as humans

1034
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: that we even know when we're not looking at humans,

1035
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: regardless of how good that they pull it off, you

1036
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And there's that little and there's

1037
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: that little tinge on that Tom Cruise defake, and that's

1038
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: what freaks you out. You're like, this looks human, it's

1039
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: it feels human, but it's not. We There's something, you know,

1040
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: there's something innately in us telling us this is not

1041
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: a real person.

1042
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: But it still looks all the same.

1043
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: So but yeah, a lot like to your point, like

1044
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: you you wonder about all the all the fucking nefarious

1045
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: things that can be used for, and like if someone

1046
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: if someone just just blurs it up on some fucking

1047
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 3: you know, security footage on some black and white shit

1048
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: of of someone's likeness, committed some shit that they didn't do,

1049
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: like that shit might could.

1050
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: Fly, who knows.

1051
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: But the podcast I sent you guys is called Brave

1052
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: New Planet if you're into like cutting edge science stuff,

1053
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: and it's moral applications, which all three of us are

1054
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: into it's a it's an interesting series. But in the

1055
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: conversation around deep fakes, they brought up someone someone did

1056
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: as a col researcher, did a Nixon or whatever it was. Yeah,

1057
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: they did a Nixon speech of the speech that he

1058
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: had written for if the moon landing crashed, So they

1059
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: animated it.

1060
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Freaky.

1061
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: But the podcast talked about what happens if someone uploads

1062
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: a video of a United States president saying we've launched

1063
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: missiles at this country and that country responds before they

1064
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: before they validated whether it's a real thing or not,

1065
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that that is a

1066
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: real possibility. There's positive applications of this stuff, like being

1067
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: able to animate people's memories if they're struggling with Alzheimer's

1068
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like that's going to be a really benefit

1069
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: official treatment. Obviously in education. You imagine instead of kids

1070
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: reading about Rome, putting a headset on them and they

1071
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: could walk around ancient roup.

1072
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 11: Like.

1073
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of things that would be incredible about

1074
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: the technology. But I think the podcast also noted ninety

1075
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: five percent of the use of deep fakes currently on

1076
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: the Internet are people putting women's faces on pornographic images.

1077
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: Of course, that's ninety five percent of what that technology

1078
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: has been used for.

1079
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's so indicative of human nature

1080
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: whenever some new technology comes a longest, how can we

1081
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: use this for evil? And how can we use this

1082
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: surrounding some sex chip?

1083
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: Right, like how can we combine the two to do

1084
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: some evil section.

1085
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: What was really weird too, is they talked about how

1086
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: the audio was the most difficult part, like how the video.

1087
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: Was very easy to manipulate and to create. And I

1088
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: think that obviously reality to it. Just real quick.

1089
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: There's a genealogy website. I think it's like my heritage

1090
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: that if the Frederick Douglass image went a little bit viral.

1091
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: But they literally have a public website. You can go

1092
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: pop in an image of your dad's when they were

1093
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: four years old, and it'll make it so that they're

1094
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: looking around and start smiling and it's pretty good. And

1095
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: that's just a public facing. Give us one picture.

1096
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the audio makes it like more rerealistic, you

1097
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But the video could be I mean,

1098
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 4: the fact that it's so easy to recreate is that

1099
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: that's scary, you know what I mean. That's just that's

1100
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 4: just that's really uncomfortable. But yeah, like and like telling

1101
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: you're talking about how like we always see that you

1102
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: know that that little tinge of like you know, this

1103
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: isn't a human and it never just doesn't feel like

1104
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 4: it's not human.

1105
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: It feels like it's bad, right, you know what I mean?

1106
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: Like when I'm watching that, I don't feel like this

1107
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: is not a human, this is a computer generated thing.

1108
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: It feels like wrong, you know what I mean. I

1109
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: wonder if that's like it's unnatural thing, go ahead, go ahead.

1110
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: And I was saying, it's not like like watching a

1111
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 3: super fucking advanced video game that almost seem a know

1112
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: it's those people are human and you don't feel unerved

1113
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: by that. But seeing like someone try to perpetrate themselves

1114
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: as human and you see that ship that tends where

1115
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: you know they're not, that's a eerie fucking feeling.

1116
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: Right, I feel like we're going somewhere we shouldn't go.

1117
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 4: And it just comes from the gut and it's just

1118
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: a very natural response to it. And I think we

1119
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 4: should probably listen to that ship. But I mean we're

1120
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: not going to you know.

1121
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no one thing. The two cases not going

1122
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: back in the tube, definitely with technology that's obviously not

1123
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: how we work as a species. Okay, before we get

1124
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: out of here, the other group chat segment is the

1125
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: introduction of the blow your mind segment, which is where

1126
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: I'm just going to give you guys some ship. This

1127
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: crazy Okay, Okay, I love crazy ship.

1128
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Are you I'm low key salivating? Okay, let me down.

1129
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: There's been lots of cool new information about our exploration

1130
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: of outer space, and what I wanted to point out

1131
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: is that while everything up there is very fascinating, we

1132
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: actually have not explored almost any of the planet Earth

1133
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: because an estimating ocean, fifty to eighty percent of all

1134
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: life on Earth is found in the ocean, which contains

1135
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the living space on the planet,

1136
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: less than ten percent of which has been explored by

1137
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: human beings.

1138
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: Bro. Like it's a fact. Well this is I don't

1139
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: know if it's well known or not.

1140
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 11: But we know more about space then we know about

1141
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 11: the ocean, like we've been told that constantly, and like

1142
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 11: a lot of the ocean is inexplorable, like we can't

1143
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 11: get to it.

1144
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: We don't have the well, we don't have.

1145
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: The technology is improving. We are going to be able

1146
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: to see more and I have some news about that.

1147
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: But before we get to there. The average depth of

1148
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: the ocean is three thousand, seven hundred and ninety five

1149
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: meters deep. Scientists have named one point five million species.

1150
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: It is estimated that there are more than fifty million

1151
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: species that have not yet been found in the ocean,

1152
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: just based on how much we have not been able

1153
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: to explore, which is probably the craziest shit I've ever heard.

1154
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: Three months ago, no, a little longer than that, they

1155
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: found the longest ocean creature ever recorded. Have you ever

1156
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: heard of a siphonofour? Bro?

1157
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: Since bro, like, how you gotta look at ip.

1158
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: H o and O p h o R. They found

1159
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: a one hundred fifty foot long siphonifour off the coast

1160
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: of Australia. It's so long it looks like a snake.

1161
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: It's actually in a spiral on the ocean floor and

1162
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: it just waits for stuff to go over it and

1163
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: then it like absorbs the proteins and shita. Just to

1164
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: put that in perspective, one hundred and fifty feet is

1165
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: about twice as long as a blue whale.

1166
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, what is this ship? What is bro?

1167
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: What is this dude? What is this dude?

1168
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: What is it?

1169
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: They are covered with with venom filled.

1170
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 4: Nemodesists used to paralyze and kill fish and other small creatures.

1171
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: For humans, a man of war, A man of war's

1172
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: thing is a screw selling painful, scrue shelling, painful but

1173
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: rarely deadly. Okay, that's all I didn't know.

1174
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: It's not gonna kill you. It's gonna kill the little

1175
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: ship that you can't even see. But it's one hundred

1176
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: and they found one. And this is just in the

1177
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: area of the ocean we can explore. They found one

1178
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: that's one hundred and fifty feet long.

1179
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: Damn.

1180
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: And these motherfuckers by illuminescent too. They're just down there

1181
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: glowing fucking.

1182
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: Right looking cute and evil as heir as fuck.

1183
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: Bro, any animal that is like bi illuminescent is probably

1184
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: bad news because any animals that saying, hey, come here,

1185
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: come come check me out there.

1186
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 12: Right right right, right right going on, got the little

1187
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 12: breadcrumbs leading to it, you know, come over, You know

1188
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 12: that's that's evil lurking.

1189
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: You feel me? One hundred and fifty feet of anything, dog, But.

1190
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: I want you to think about that two mill We

1191
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: found two million species in the ocean out of fifty million.

1192
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: I just I just think, like there are places in

1193
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: the ocean that are as deep as like thirty empire

1194
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: state buildings stacked on top of each other. But when

1195
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: I learned it, like there's the pressure would be a

1196
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: thirty seven forty seven jets pressing down on you.

1197
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: At the same time, I remember learning that, like there's

1198
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: places that our tech would go to and it couldn't

1199
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: come back up because the pressure of the water like

1200
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 4: holding it down.

1201
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: And even like with humans, that's the same thing. If

1202
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: you go to you can't swim up like that. That

1203
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: the science of that is. That's just crazy to me.

1204
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: But like we're like certain tech cake we can't explore

1205
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: certain parts. I'm like, bro, like the ocean is just

1206
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: some other shit. And I mean, I'll the things that we.

1207
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: See are insane in me, like a whale, like we

1208
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? You know what I mean?

1209
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: Did you remember that video where that person was sitting

1210
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 4: on that fucking like that little boat and the well

1211
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 4: jumped out of the water.

1212
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1213
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 6: Like, I mean, like, did motherfucker exists? You saw that

1214
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: that that that close, you know what I mean, like

1215
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 6: those that it.

1216
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Blows my mind.

1217
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: So he're like the final fours and what you said,

1218
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: fifty million more different species of.

1219
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: That's we we are.

1220
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: We are very lucky that whales are docile plankton consumers,

1221
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: because if those motherfuckers are.

1222
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: Out for blood, I mean, there's a whale that's out

1223
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: for blood.

1224
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: Though the killer well adequately named, be fucking up great

1225
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: white Sharks and ship you feel me or he'll be technically.

1226
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: Technically a porpoise family, but I believe is the killer law.

1227
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's our first blow your mind segment. Tyler

1228
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: is gonna do a history what do we call him?

1229
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: The history thing?

1230
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1231
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: We'll figure that ship out.

1232
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna name it Tyler's next week, just.

1233
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: Call it Tyler Time. It's Tyler Time. Need music for

1234
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: that ship, yeah, we need created some music for that. Yeah.

1235
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: But anyway, all right.

1236
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Y'all, I think that's it. We'll be back again on Monday,

1237
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: and uh.

1238
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Ship, I'm diving into some top final four ship out

1239
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: to this man. You feel me tapping in all parts,

1240
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: all parts of these all parts of you. It's cruciatingly

1241
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: painful ship, all right, y'all.

1242
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: H