1 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the show's title kind of 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: overrides the concept of Labor Day. I'm Greg Rosenthal and 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: pleased to be joined by now a repeat guest. Hopefully 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: we can make this as regular as possible. Ali Connolly, 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: who does great work over at the read Optional on Substack. 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Him and John Ledyard do a great podcast there, renamed 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: and that's gotten. 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Going for the year. You know him and love him. 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: He was on The. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Menachim Show last week. Welcome Ollie, Thank you for having me. 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: This is a huge, huge week for the North of England. 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: You have me doing NFL Daily. Oasiss reform. This this 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: big popping off all over the place. And you took 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: off the hat, which like, what were you doing hiding 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: this beautiful let us you got there. You know, forget 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins that you have because he can't rock that. 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Every single comment I see under anything I do mind 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: entire social media feed is all you. 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: Like Kirk Cousins. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: So I'm trying to do everything possible to pass the 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Kirk Coms you pointed out last time. Not an awful 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: comp it could be way worse. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: No, No, he's a successful man, handsome man, nice family, 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: nice guy. We spent a whole episode talking about him 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: last night, which was which was fun and a coincidence 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't know quite how similar you look to 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: him this time. I thought it'd be fun, Ali because 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I've spent so much time, certainly over the last month, 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: but especially over the last week, like going through the 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: league as a whole and predicting and season, and it's like, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: these games are here, We're at these games, and we 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: really haven't gone through the matchups of Week one, and 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Week one is a very different week in the NFL. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: You know this because these teams really do prepare for 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: their Week one game longer and more extensively than they 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: really prepare for any other game until maybe the playoffs 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: where you start getting ahead of time. And so yes, 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: we have our previous show coming up on Thursday. I'm 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: really excited for that show every week. Steve Wish and 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Clayband are going to be with me on that. 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: But I thought we'd get to jump on it and 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: look a little more just big picture into these matchups 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: we've had this long off season, Olie, and talk about 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of man, what are we looking forward to the 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: most matchup wise? Just like kind of opening up a 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: box on Christmas. Week one because to me, week one 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: is still the best week. I don't know if you 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: agree with me on that or what, Ollie, Because you 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: spent a long time you've been covering soccer. You know 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: now you're back to doing American football full time. So 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, as excited as could be. 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: My favorite thing about Week one is overreactions to Week 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: one is two bad teams play each other, and you 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: think one's really good after one does really well. 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: But look, you spend a whole off season. I'm the 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: kind of person. 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: Where as we go through all the drafts, all of 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: fregent transactions, I can be critical of them in the moment, 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: and then two weeks before the start season, I started 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: talking myself and do basically every single team having an 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: appropriate plan, something that could work, some kind of change 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: they've made that may make sense, and I look forward 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: to within by week three, week four, immediately going that 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: was terrible. I was right the first go around. Everything 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: is ruined. So week one is off first tuns to 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: find out kind of where these seems lie. 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. I might as well start. 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Why not the first thing I thought about. And again 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna just kind of pick out instead of like games, 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: just more concepts or matchups. Part of the matchups, I'm 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: going to talk about the egos running game like I 73 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: just want to see that off the bat because I 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: just think of the trajectory of Kellen Moore. I also 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: wanted to hear your thoughts on this, especially that a 76 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: year ago we were being sold this bill of goods 77 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: that he's going to fix the Chargers running game and 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: they actually had a monster week once again Week one 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: can be missed leading. I think they were over two 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: hundred yards in that game, and you know they're doing 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: the under center stuff and the outside zone. He's mixing 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: it all up. It look great, and then they end 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: up having the worst running game in the league. Obviously, 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: they were effective when he was in Dallas, but now 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: he goes to a team in Philadelphia, which, for all 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: their troubles last year and Jalen Hurts wasn't even one 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: hundred percent for a good chunk of the season. I mean, 88 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: they were the number five most efficient running game according 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: to DVOA. They were pretty effective the whole season. Obviously, 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Jason Kelcey's there. You have the tush push, but he's 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: coming to a group and a system that's been good. 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: Now you add Saquon Barkley, the offensive line is different. 93 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: You go against this Packers defense, which could be a 94 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: whole nother conversation. But I have heard some reports alim 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: from Eagles training camp that they've had Hurts pretty involved 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: in the running game, which I think they were encouraged 97 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: by a little more running backs in the passing game, 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: which they talk about every year. 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: But that's exciting. 100 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: So I just don't know what I'm going to get 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: because to me, they're one of the signature units of 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: the entire NFL Eagles running game over the last couple 103 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: of years, and now it's going to be different. 104 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: Like what are you looking for there? 105 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 106 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: I think the number one thing you hit up top 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: is how involved as Hurts in this rung game when 108 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: they were really rolling with Shane Steike, and that to 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 3: me has been probably the best offense in the last 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: four or five years. But what all the meta trends 111 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: are on defense, how you would attack them all is 112 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: what kellum, which is what Shane Styking came up with, 113 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: which was a power spread offense. All five guys can 114 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: pull downhill running threat and then a really talented. 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: Accurate deep ball thrower. 116 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: That is like the go to way to kind of 117 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: disrupt what everyone's doing with movement up front, moving on 118 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: the back end. That's the way to get after it. 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: Kellen Morris someone I've been pretty critical of in the 120 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: past because he, to me, is a guy who is 121 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: only really interested in the payoff plays. He's not as 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: involved in the down to down sequencing of how to 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: get those pay of plays. There is an awful lot 124 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: of highlight social media clips, great whiteboard stuff as opposed 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: to maybe having a feeling and sense for like the 126 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: rhythm of a game itself and how to dig out 127 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: of hole when things aren't going well, which is why 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: I think you get moments where he has fifty five 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: point explosions in Dallas because everything is just clicking the 130 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: way it was designed, and he can't necessarily get himself 131 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: out of a hole when it's not flowing the same way. 132 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: So for me, he's walking into an organization where he 133 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: should just ask them all for the playbook from two 134 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: years ago. 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: Hand it to me. 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Let's get rolling. That's still the best way 137 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: to approach this thing, and it's just getting Jalen Jalen 138 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: hurts a downhill run as involved as possible. 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so a few things there, and I can't remember 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: because one of my favorite things you would hit on 141 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: on your podcast, and again like, if I can do 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: one thing today, it's to point people towards the read 143 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: optional Ali's substack. I've been paying for this podcast last year. 144 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I do like the coordinators you get on for being 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: too flashy that they there's some that you think it's 146 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a look at me coordinators versus 147 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: having an overall smart scheme. I can't remember if Kellen 148 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Moore was in that category. 149 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: He might be the post a child of the flashy 150 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: I go viral. People write nice profiles about me because 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: I do interesting or cool things that draw attention, but 152 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: is it really helping the offense move? 153 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: Is it efficient enough? 154 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: And he's got some unbelievable numbers though he has worked 155 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: with incredible talent. The thing for me was he goes 156 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: to the Chargers and everyone was saying, Wow, this is 157 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: gonna be incredible just in her, but with Keller Moore, 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: and once again it becomes look how clever Keller Moore 159 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: is rather than is this thing effective? 160 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Mm and yeah again, we'll see what the difference of 161 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey not being there. 162 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a difference. But they've been 163 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: ready for this moment with Cam Jurgens. 164 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Also, that came is on Friday night in Brazil, so 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: one of the best NFC games of the season. Like 166 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: it just I can't believe this is all happening, but 167 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: it's fantastic. I'm looking forward to doing a recap of 168 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: that show. We're having Adam Lefko, who I'm a big 169 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: fan of and is an Eagles guy, who's gonna gonna 170 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: join me after the show, So he's either gonna be 171 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: bummed out or happy. Why don't you you get me 172 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: going with your first one? 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: OLLI. 174 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: My big thing is the state of the Ravens defense. 175 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: We don't have very much data on you know, defensive 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: football year to year fluctuates so much, it's so volatile. 177 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: These kind of new breed of we sim a bunch, 178 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: we roll a bunch in the back end. We doesn't 179 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: have much date on how those perform year to year. 180 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: So you have a first time coordinator who's not been 181 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: coaching football for a long time, with a team that 182 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: relied so much slashly on one guy in the middle 183 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: of the field being an absolute monster, and Kyle Hamilton 184 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: being the most unique player in football on the back 185 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: end and playing all three levels, going against the best 186 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: staff in football, the best player in football in primetime. 187 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: To me, it's the number one thing of I don't 188 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: expect him to, you know, find a way to confuse 189 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: and befuddle Patrick Mahomes, But it's more finding out is 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: he just going to run the same system as Mike 191 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: McDonald or does he have his own identity and imprint 192 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: he wants to put on the team which may be 193 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: more reliable, sustainable as the year goes along. 194 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious too. 195 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: I'll just pick that one next, which is what Mike 196 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: McDonald's going to do. But sticking on the Ravens, You're right, 197 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: it used to be a cliche. You do these shows 198 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: long enough, you find yourself repeating yourself. And there was 199 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: that Andy Reid Week one thing going for a little while. 200 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: I feel like that's calmed down a little bit. It 201 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: definitely peaked in the Week one where Kareem Hunt just 202 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: went crazy on the Patriots in Foxborough. But he would 203 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: always come up with some stuff that you just hadn't 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: seen before. In Week one, Mike McDaniel does that too, 205 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: And thinking about that versus a brand new coordinator in 206 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: zach Or, I'm not as I'm not worried about their defense, 207 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: but yes, I'm curious how it's going to look. I'm 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: excited to see what the secondary is going to be 209 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: with Nate Wiggins, Like, that's an interesting Week one guy. 210 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: I do just put some faith, and maybe it's too 211 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: much faith that zach Orr is a great coaching prospect 212 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: just because the Ravens chose him. They apparently had four 213 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators on their own staff last year and Mike 214 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: McDonald left, and so they chose zach Orr out of 215 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: the other three. And so I guess I'm going to 216 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: give it to John Harbod that he's going to make 217 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: a smart choice, but it's hard to guess like exactly 218 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: what that's going to look like. 219 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think if your kind of predominant blue 220 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: chip thing, isn't that we have one or two top 221 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: tier pass rushers. Yeah, that to me is a thing 222 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: that's sustainable. I love the sim pressure world all the 223 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: dorky stuff. 224 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: I get it. I just don't know how reliable it 225 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: can be. Years. 226 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't teach Kyle Hamilton, you can't teach 227 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: Roquan Smith. All those guys might a week I think 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: will still be as good as he was. 229 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: Like, well, they're still there, though they're not going anywhere. 230 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 4: Everyone's still there. But I just don't know. 231 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: If you give people that long to take a look 232 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: and review things and you're coming in week one, you 233 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: imagine he's going to default to the things that he 234 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: thinks worked best last year and then over time kind 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: of blending how he've used the game. Right, That's what 236 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: I would assume what happen Robin trying to tear it 237 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: up what was a great unit last year, and so 238 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: they've had, however long to prepare with the best player 239 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: in football, the best offensive mine of football. That's the 240 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: thing for me, And it's one of those ones. Way 241 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: it would not surprise me if it didn't look that 242 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: great in week one, and try not to overreact to. 243 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 4: It, but I do think it's something worth watching. 244 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think you point out in terms of 245 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: the edge rushers, of course, Genevian Clowney's not there after 246 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: he had a good season. Odafe Oway has gotten a 247 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: little better every year and certainly could have a good season, 248 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: but after that, like they're starting Kyle van Noy in 249 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty four. I know Kyle Vanoy's played 250 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: well for the most part the last few years, but 251 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: that's a thin edge group. Absolutely. I do like the secondary. 252 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: It's fun, so that that's a good one to look 253 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: forward to. I might as well go to my Mike 254 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: McDonald one. It's not that deep, but it's just, you know, 255 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: what does his defense look like without a Roquan Smith 256 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: in Seattle? Because to me, their off ball linebacker situation 257 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: could be a total fiasco. I think there's some concern 258 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: about people who have watched them in training camp because 259 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Jerome Baker has not been healthy. Interroalde Doddson, we'll see 260 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't been one hundred percent either. They actually traded 261 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: for a rookie who's going to be a backup at 262 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: off ball linebacker, and so what does that look like now? 263 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: If you look at the preseason, which I guess does 264 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: tell you something. They were the leader, you know, in 265 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: stunting in the preseason percentage wise by a good amount, 266 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: and they were running a lot of sim pressures. So 267 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: for as much as people say, like the preseason doesn't 268 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: tell you anything, like Todd Bowles was the one running 269 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: the most blitzes, Mike McDonald's the one running the most stunts. 270 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean, they kind of do what they do even 271 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: if it was in the preseason, and I think they 272 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: have enough talent overall to make it work. But I 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: do love the matchup Week one, that they're going against 274 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: bow Nicks and this hype machine in Denver. That's a 275 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: little out of control and I have to stop myself 276 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: from just pushing against the fans because it's not Sean 277 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Payton or bow Nix's fault that the fans think bo 278 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: Nicks is this awesome, but it does annoy me ally. 279 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Well, Mike McDonald has the chance it's like win Week 280 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: one by closing down Bonix and a misbegotten high train 281 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: and then people saying, look, how smart might McDonald's being 282 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: one of the great Week one overreactions before they get 283 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: their heads club for the next five six weeks. That's 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: definitely in play. My big concern with I think the 285 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: linebacker stuff, the way Mike McDonald approaches things. They really 286 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: play in a pretty limited plane. You're not asking an 287 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: awful lot of people. It's pretty vertical and north south 288 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: that there's not an awful lot going on there for 289 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: those guys, So that is something you can pick up with. 290 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he had great ones last year, and I 291 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: understand that, and that is a true cheat code. The 292 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: big thing for his defense is then Nickel has to be, 293 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: if not the best player on the unit, in the 294 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: top three, and he's only not the best one because 295 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: of the two guys are such freakazoids. That's like the 296 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: go to thing for that defense. They blitz it so 297 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: often it is crucial to the run scheme. I don't 298 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 3: want to bore people too much with the details. I 299 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: love Devon Weatherspoon. I thought he was the best corner 300 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: in that class. I'm not sure for that role where 301 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: a big part of the responsibility is being a wall 302 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: defender versus the run. The guy who hits, who comes down, 303 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: who flies around, but he doesn't scream out to me 304 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: as a guy who can like drive someone off the 305 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: ball plant and shift the blocker. It is more driving 306 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: downfield and clothes lining someone and trying to create a turnover, 307 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: So that to me is the concern that they've got 308 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: a lot of talent on the back end. I think 309 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: because of the young guys, I'm not sure that necessarily 310 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: a line to what he wants to do, which then 311 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: means he might have to switch things up and put 312 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: more pressure on the linebacking group if he can't figure 313 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: out with the secondary. So I just don't know if 314 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna get the pure uncook McDonald's right away. 315 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: I think we're going to be at least a year 316 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: away from. 317 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: It because Devin Weatherston in that defense, you know, just 318 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: from a basics point of view, it's like, oh wow, 319 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: it's hee a sneaky defensive Player of the Year candidate 320 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: or an All Pro candidate, And I am buying. There 321 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: are some preseason stories I buy, and cornerbacks are so 322 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: up and down that I am buying, like the Reek 323 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Woolen rejuvenation because he understood what went wrong on some 324 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: level last year that he'll be at least a quality 325 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: corner All it took for me, I'll were like a 326 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: few reps where he embarrassed Calvin Ridley and joint practices 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and a few podcasts from Michael Shan Dugar, who does 328 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: a great job of just saying he's looked awesome, and 329 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: so I'm into that. There there's a lot of talent, 330 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: and I think way more talent than the Broncos offense. 331 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: And so that's one week, one game. I'm just curious 332 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: to see. I guess if I'm right, and if they 333 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: can dominate in that game, all right, you give me 334 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: one more and we'll take a break after that. 335 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: It's gotta be Caleb versus the Tennessee defense. Is is 336 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: this Titan defense going to be good? Do you think 337 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: they could be sneaky good? 338 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: I would tend to know. That's what I'm I'm going towards. 339 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: It's weird one because as I go through them, it 340 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: does feel like I don't know me playing Madden and 341 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: like the signing guys I've heard of in two years time. 342 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: So I understand that. 343 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: But once you look at the secondary in particular, I 344 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: do think X actually a decent amount of talent. Then 345 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: obviously the best receiving core is could be really overwhelming. 346 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: Caleb is such an unusual player and can extend and 347 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: create plays, and I get the concerns with the front seven. 348 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: I love the uns Jones pickup. 349 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: I think that can that can have an impact, and 350 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: they may not be a top twelve in DVOA type defense, 351 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: but I don't think this is anywhere near like a troubling, 352 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: dumpsterfire type unit. So I'm interested to see what that 353 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: looks like in Week one. 354 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's the same coaching trades in Ard Wilson. 355 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: You know, we don't know if he's gonna run everything 356 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: the same. Actually, the way he's talked in the preseason 357 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: does not sound like he's like running a Mike McDonald 358 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: type of defense. It's gonna be a different a different scheme. 359 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: He's his own guy, and the front could be good. 360 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Devandre Sweat Again, it's camp. I just think he's had 361 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: a very positive camp, a guy that everyone was down 362 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: on and certainly lack of judgment with Dui and his 363 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: weight in everything. And yet everyone that's been at Titans 364 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: camp is like, other than Jeffrey Simmons, he's been our 365 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: most consistent defensive lineman. He's actually shown up and it's 366 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: translated and they could be good upfront. And I am 367 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: a little worried about the Bears offensive line in general. 368 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I think Bears fans are higher on it than I am, 369 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: but is at a matchup that they could lose Week one, 370 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, that's spicy. I could see them being good. 371 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I didn't love the Owoozia signing. It's like and he 372 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been healthy in camp. I didn't even love love 373 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the lagarious Snead outside of Kansas City, not always being 374 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: able to practice because his knee is such a problem signing. 375 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: So that's a big mystery box, a big question mark. 376 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: But you're right, there's a chance there that they could 377 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: improve quite a bit. 378 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I am higher on the secondary than you. 379 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: I really like the safety room. I think they can 380 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: do interesting creative things with those guys. I think Sneed's 381 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: are really good. We'll see if you just put him 382 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: in a pure bump and run situations that you've got 383 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: nothing else to do with the rest of the game. 384 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: That should translate. There's no earthy reason why it shouldn't. 385 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: Yet for some reason, this happens every year in free age, 386 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: So these guys don't translate playing the exact same technique 387 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: as somewhere else, and for some reason it doesn't work. 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: The front I'm probably more down on from you. I'm 389 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: not a Devandre sweat guy. That is to me, that's 390 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: camp stuff. It's believe it when I see it. It's 391 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: believe it when it's eight straight weeks and it's snapped 392 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: a snap and it's not rotating golf and just playing 393 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: running downs and maybe possibly considering being in shape to 394 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: play football. 395 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: At this level. 396 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: So that that is the thing I will I will 397 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: definitely have to see before I believe it. 398 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a great point too, because of course 399 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: in camp, like they're not you know, they're in pads plenty, 400 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: but they're not they're not tackling to the ground. 401 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: They're doing it. It's a totally different sport. 402 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: And they're very thin there that I have sort of 403 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: picked up on that, Like they're planning on him playing 404 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot. He's certainly starting, and that's that's a little concerning. 405 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: But if you get close to prime Jeffrey Simmons and 406 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's ready to go, and Harold Landry 407 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: finished out last season well and I think could have 408 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, is certainly a solid edge like they they 409 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: have guys arden Key had that suspension overturn, and so 410 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: that's a fun one. Titans Bears Week one, We're gonna 411 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: come back with a couple more things that we're just like, 412 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: we just can't wait to unwrap week one. We couldn't 413 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: even wait to do the previous show. So we'll be 414 00:18:53,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: back in a couple of minutes. All right, we are 415 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: back here on NFL Daily and yeah, but the big 416 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: news in the UK. 417 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: Oasis it's back. They're back. 418 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Are you what do you? What's your oasis connection? I'll 419 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: give you a second to think about that, as I say, 420 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: my biggest connection there is the first ever weekend of 421 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: my life that I ever just got drunk for an 422 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: entire weekend because I was either a freshman or a 423 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: sophomore in high school and someone someone had a house 424 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: that was just open for the weekend and I somehow, 425 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, got you know, my parents allowed me to 426 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: sleep over there and I think I spent we spent 427 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: like two or three nights and yeah, that was that 428 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: was That ages me a little bit, but it was 429 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: definitely maybe an oasis lived forever, just basically on repeat, 430 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: like while getting drunk as a fifteen year old for 431 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: forty eight hours straight. 432 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: Well, I live in Manchester, England, as you know, I'm 433 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: from the North of England. People can't tell that from 434 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: my messed up voice of living in Boston for three 435 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: years and having the wolf's most accent. So for us, 436 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: you know, thirteen years old in a park with rock 437 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: and roll star believing and walking and talking like we 438 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: are all Liam and Nole Gallaghans. That is how I 439 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: was born and raised. 440 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: That is awesome. 441 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: I can kind of picture it, but not picture because 442 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: I've never been in Manchester. When I go, it's like 443 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: I always stay in London. This year, I really on Saturday, 444 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: I wanna Saturday usually have some free time. I want 445 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: to like get outside the city. Not that London's not amazing, 446 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: but it's time for me to venture out. Maybe you 447 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: can help me with that. 448 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: Ali. 449 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: Before that, though, let's talk more week one and hmmm, 450 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: where do I go next? Let's call Colt's defensive line. 451 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I had a lot lay after LAT two was just 452 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: such a fun prospect to me, as fun of a 453 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: edge prospect as there's been in a couple years. And 454 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason, the little that we saw he looked 455 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: like the same guy in college. It makes you feel 456 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: a little better that, okay, this is going to translate. 457 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: And then you think about that defensive line in general. 458 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, the question for me is DeForest Buckner and 459 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: Grover Stewart gonna be close to where they have been 460 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: at their peak, because if they're anywhere close, and they've 461 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: been pretty good lately next to lat too, and you 462 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: know you have Quidy pay as the other edge that 463 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: matchup against the Texans week one, you got larm. You know, 464 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's a lot to versus tunsl which is like 465 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, film geek porn there and the whole line 466 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: in general. I have some questions about the rest of 467 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the Texans offensive line, but that line and some good 468 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: linebackers for the Colts too against this explosive Texans offense, 469 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and there's some familiar aler arity now between the two 470 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: coaching staff to me that that's a really exciting Week 471 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: one of just like, okay, where are these these two 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: sides at especially a lot too versus Tunsil could be 473 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. 474 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a GC one. I wish I really like 475 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: that line. I don't mind them playing a four down 476 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: and go situation. They've got the dudes, they can just 477 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: fire off the ball and make some Hey. I do 478 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: kind of wish he was with someone over them. Gous Bradley. 479 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: Not to dump on Gus Bradley particularly, but you just 480 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: went through it right. We've got this guy, this past 481 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: rusher who is an unusual type play. He doesn't win 482 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: in normal ways pass rushers play football. I've described him 483 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: for as like an MMA fight. Do they just like 484 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: let loose on the football field. It's a weird hand 485 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: movement and uncoordinated body stuff. It's not really fire off 486 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: the ball and dip around the edge or run through 487 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: someone's chest. I mean, he can do that stuff, but 488 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: he's at his best kind of levitating in the air 489 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: and doing unorthodox kind of TJ. Watt type things. So 490 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: you look at the Texans line, you say, let's just 491 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: plant this guy over the center, let him loose, and 492 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: we'll get like ten to fifteen pressures. Everyone else can 493 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: come screaming con and we all high five, what a 494 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: great day. There's no need for him to be caught 495 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: up in the Laramie tunsil hurricane of just the speed 496 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: and the power and a guy who is who will 497 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: be laughing if you try and hit him with some 498 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: weird like Bruce Lee moves and then you just wind 499 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: up in his arms. It's not gonna work. So that's 500 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: not a great match to my thinking for a lot 501 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: do week one. If he's going to come and try 502 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 3: and do his typical things, which I think can make 503 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: him a really, really good player in the league, I 504 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: would like to see him moved around and maybe Bradley 505 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: spent you know, six months away hanging out in the lake, 506 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: get a bit frisky and deciding to change up things 507 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: a little bit front. 508 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: It is kind of wild to think about the run 509 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: that Gus Bradley's had. I don't know if he's had 510 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: a single season where he hasn't run a defense since 511 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: he started running a defense. 512 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, he has the reputation. 513 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: You can tell me if it's changed in your eye 514 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: in any recent years of Yeah, he's gonna line him up, 515 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the four linemen, he's gonna do what 516 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: he does. I mean, he's mixed it a little bit 517 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: on the back end maybe before, but he's a little 518 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: more static and a little more just like our players 519 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: are going to be ear players more, yes, coordinators. 520 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: It's really static and it's all about which is fair 521 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: enough to the NFL. It's really hard. You got guys 522 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: rolling now injured right practice squad guys. It makes a 523 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: ton of sense to say, you get me players, I'll 524 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: teach them technique, will go win games. It is still 525 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: for all the fun stuff about rotations and sim pressures. 526 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: It is still sixty forty a man coverage single highly 527 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: That's what it is. So that's what he made in 528 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: him getting frisky was adding in a dose of Tampa 529 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: two and being like, hey, look at me, guys, kind 530 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: of getting out there over here, look at me. So 531 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be a wacky situation 532 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: on the back end, but he's now been given these 533 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: pieces where he could do interesting things them. It could 534 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: be more Niners like where it's at least an overload 535 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: front and we're trying to do something a little bit 536 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: different to get after people in the past US game. 537 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: Because he's now he's got the pieces, there's not really 538 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: an excuse I don't think for them to be one 539 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: of the best pressure teams in the league. 540 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Deo Adigmbo is still there. Sampson Abakom just a 541 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: little update. I had mentioned he was out for the season, 542 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: we believe with an achilles. They put him on designated 543 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: to return. There was a Terrell Suggs Achilles tear ones 544 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: where he returned by the end of the season. So 545 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: if they're you know, I think they can be a 546 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: playoff team. I put them in the playoffs in our 547 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: AFC preview with Nick Wright as one of the wildcard teams. 548 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: So just something to keep an eye on that maybe 549 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: he could return. But they're fairly deep, especially on the edge. 550 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: They have Taekwon Lewis. It's a it's a fun defense. 551 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: It's a fun off. I mean, it's just a fun division. 552 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: Why don't you go with the next one? 553 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: For me, it has to be the Dallas defense. I 554 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 3: have no idea what this thing is going to be. 555 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 3: We get zimmer Bag. I don't think people quite understand 556 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: last year how corrupted they were by design for long stretches. 557 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: Because dank Quinn is considered a great coach. He had 558 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: the two really good years and he gets a head 559 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: coaching job, so he gets a job promotion, which I 560 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: think people think means he did a great job. But 561 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: structurally they were a disaster for like large chunks of 562 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: last year. And I've made this point before where it 563 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: just because you had that one by year, it doesn't 564 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: mean dan Quinn can't be a good head coach elsewhere. 565 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: That could be what happened in a job interview can 566 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: run a programmer's done the job before. But if he 567 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 3: just went in without any of the background stuff and 568 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 3: it was just a tape by tape who had a 569 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: good year of the year before, there is no chance 570 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: he's getting any kind of job. And so you bring 571 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: Zimmern and they do absolutely nothing. They get Eric Kendricks, 572 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: who is just like Scotch taped together as please give 573 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: us a chance. They say they're not going to run 574 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: all this three safety stuff. They're betting on Marsie Smith 575 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: and these guys to show internal development. They lose a cornerback. 576 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm pretty worried that they're not going to be anywhere 577 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: near the level people would assume they would be the 578 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: thing they've got going in their favors. I'm also not 579 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: quite sure about Deshan Watson the Cleveland Browns offense. And 580 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: we may get one week where Mike Parson sparkles and 581 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: we still think that they're a really effective group. 582 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: It's really interesting and I haven't heard it put that way. 583 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: I think you're right because of the presidence of Parsons 584 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and just the name of Laurence, so that DeMarcus is 585 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: still a good player. He's not what he was, but 586 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: he's still a plus player to have out there, not 587 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: as much talent. And you're right, I didn't think dan 588 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Quinn had that bad of a year. I thought he 589 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: had a bad like final six weeks. It was kind 590 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: of disastrous. It reminded me a little bit of Mike 591 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Rabel getting the promotion to a head coaching job too, 592 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: when his defense was absolutely terrible. 593 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: Here, it's not a bad year. If you go by 594 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: some of the metrics and the measurables, it's not so bad. 595 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that if you are someone who's evaluating 596 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: a coaching job and you sit down with them and say, 597 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: walk me through what you're doing here. They have things 598 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: where runfit wise, they don't make any logical sense, and 599 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: it was happening weekly, and you've got you know, they're 600 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: playing more defensive backs than anyone else in the lead. 601 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: They got defensive backs fitting B gaps which regularly, which 602 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: is not like cool Brandon Staley stuff. 603 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: It's like an error. 604 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: Then they have a bunch of players when it's run 605 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: to the perimeter where two guys are arriving at the 606 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 3: same spot at once. So that's just either a coaching 607 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: issue of feeding it into the players or you've designed 608 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: a poor defense and you don't now have to spin 609 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: your way out of it midway through the year because 610 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: you realize we don't have any linebackers. 611 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 4: What have we done? 612 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: And that runs into this is to go and get 613 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: Zimmer and Eric Hendricks. That's the solution. 614 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Kendricks hype and I think think I've said 615 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: this on this show, so I feel bad pileing non 616 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: but this weird thing where I'll listen to Cowboys ANALYSTSS like, 617 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: well we got you know, we fixed linebacker by getting 618 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks. I was like, no, Aeron Kendricks was a 619 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: problem for their last two teams. He's got to be 620 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: a problem for your team. Zimmer coming off the shelf, 621 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: you never know, like could he get a little wild 622 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: or could it be stale? 623 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: Like he's a bit of a mystery. 624 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Certainly one of the most effective defensive coordinators of the 625 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: last twenty years, and yet yeah, different situation. 626 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Everyone's on the hot seat. It's weird. 627 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: He certainly is. And everyone loves Mike Zimmer. I love 628 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Mike Zimmer. I love the tenor and tone of how 629 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: he just used football. I love the commodtioneally style when 630 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: it's kind of this like little genius hidden in there. 631 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: But he's a commercial still good on hard knocks. As 632 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: a decoordinator. It was so good with the Bengals. 633 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: It was fun. 634 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: That is my favorite kind of coach. But I think 635 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: he's a little bit misunderstood in the sense that they 636 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: were never that wacky or inventive. They did some interesting 637 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: things with Harrison Smith, and it was like, well, therefore 638 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: the whole defense must be really, you know, inventive and cool. 639 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: He's very static, it's very cover three. It's pretty traditional. 640 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: It's three linebackers as often as possible. That's why they 641 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: went and got Kendricks. It's like, you wouldn't have made 642 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: that move if that was not the style you were 643 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: expecting to run again, and dan Quinn, to be fair 644 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: to him, really overhauled the entire thing. Became a guy 645 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: who was playing a bunch too deep and rotating a lot. 646 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: It just failed. 647 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: It was just not well designed by the end of 648 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 3: the run there and was bailed out by great players 649 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: up front, essentially masquerading, you know, covering up a lot 650 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: of like technical flaws with the defense. I think Zimma 651 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: can at least fix those bear basics, and that is 652 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: a starting point. I just don't know if they have 653 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: that much talent. 654 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're counting on de Moon Clark maybe who knows, 655 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: he might be the fourth linebacker, but they think maybe 656 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: he develops DeMar Vean Overshan maybe improving. That's a third 657 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: round pick from a year ago development there. I've heard 658 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: there's some concerns about Marshawn Neelan and his hip coming 659 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: into the ceiling. I know he's defensive end, but they're 660 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: they're a little thinner, and you're right, just the talent 661 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: isn't quite as good, and certainly Deron Bland's injury doesn't 662 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: help there. I hate to go so Cowboys heavy and 663 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: be basic, but that was my fourth was the offense. 664 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: So I guess I gotta watch this game. I really 665 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: am interested in this game. Plus it's Brady's first game. 666 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I have to admit as a broadcast head and a 667 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Brady head, you know, just. 668 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: All of it. 669 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm this is my main game. I'm in Fox. I'm 670 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be like a hipster. I want to watch 671 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: this game. But it is because of the offense for 672 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to me more than the defense that this 673 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: offensive line versus the Browns defensive line. Now they've had 674 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: some injuries in camp, but you know, Miles Garrett potentially 675 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: against Geiton and or whoever they're you know, going to 676 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: have it right tackle there. It was a really effective 677 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: defensive line. I'm wondering if this Brown's defense kind of 678 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: like you mentioned with mac Mike McDonald's defense, in everyone 679 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: getting a year to kind of get used to the 680 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: scheme and everything, what is year two Jim Schwartz in Cleveland? 681 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: Can it be as effective? 682 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: And then all the questions that we have about the 683 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense, specifically to me, the offensive line coming into 684 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: the year and the running game, And I'm just I 685 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: don't really have a hot take of like how it's 686 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: gonna go. I just want to see it and what 687 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: the heck happens. The Browns one is fascinating because that's 688 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: one where we'll know, I think within like a quarter, 689 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: like is the magic still there? They last year played 690 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: like almost a high school kind of defense. It was 691 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: seventy two percent of the time the middle of the 692 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: field is closed. They ran basically three coverages all year. 693 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: They had like four changeups. That was the entire defense. 694 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And then they've got this outrageous pass rush, which is 695 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: just players. It was just four down and go, and 696 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: that is great coaching. It's like, I have really good players, 697 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put them in the best spot. We'll play 698 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: man coverage everywhere. It's really easy. They had really talented corners. 699 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: But when you're losing guys tow injury to just say, 700 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: this is what Belichick always did so well. Why he'd 701 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: always just find a corner by people. 702 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: How does he do that? 703 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: Belichick's a genius. He says, you find that guy and 704 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: you run with him everywhere. That's the job for the week. 705 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: We're not doing all cool creative coverage stuff. So I 706 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: think we'll know pretty quickly whether they still have that 707 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: kind of talent. I just don't know if it's easy 708 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: to roll with that year or year and say we're 709 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: going to be the most static, predictable defensive league and 710 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: not just you know, do well, but house people by 711 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: a big distance in terms of precious sacks, TFLs, all 712 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So I think we'll know quickly, 713 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: and then for Dallas. I just don't trust that staff 714 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: to ever make things. It's like they as good as 715 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: Dak is and I'm a huge Dak believer. It's like 716 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 3: they think there's some kind of like extra bonus points 717 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: for being very complicated and that's how they view offensive football, 718 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: and there just isn't And if he's not got the 719 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: time and he can't create a move as well as 720 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: he has it in the past, then I think they could. 721 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: Be in trouble. 722 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it could be one of those matchup based 723 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: things that both of these units are a little worse 724 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: than everyone thinks. But it's a fun game, it's close, 725 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: it's the national game, and you feel good maybe about 726 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: both sides coming out of it. It's like, oh, that 727 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: was a good match between two good sides. And maybe 728 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: not because to me, Cook Brandon Cooks is is. 729 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: Not what he was. He hasn't been what he was. 730 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: And we'll see. 731 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: They've been high on their third receiver, whom I wanted 732 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: to say Geiton, but Jalen Tolbert, not Jalen Guitton, who's 733 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: had a good camp and everything. Ferguson's a solid, you know, 734 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: but this is a maybe a group you can cover 735 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: with man coverage other than Seee Lamb, who's not going 736 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: to have a ton of practice time before this game. 737 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up one more pick your best 738 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: one you got remaining, Ali Connolly. 739 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: Best one I got remaining is Bryce Young has to 740 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: be Bryce Young? What on earth is this thing going 741 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: to look like? Do you have any idea of what 742 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: Bryson will look like? 743 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: In you two? 744 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: Because for me, the big thing is it's like everyone's 745 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: already moved on. C J. Stroud is great, we get 746 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, we get Drape May, and it's as though 747 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: an everyone outside of Carolina is like the number one 748 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: overall pick who they traded their entire frenchise to go 749 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: get might just stink and they don't want to say 750 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: it publicly. 751 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 4: And I hope he's going to be great. The league 752 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: will be awesome. 753 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: If Bryce Young is amazing, that would be I just 754 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: from what they've said, what they've messaged, what they've shown 755 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: in the tiny sample size possible, I'm just not buying 756 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: him believing it right now. 757 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: In terms of the camp progress. And you know, he 758 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 1: had one good preseason drive, but it's hard to take 759 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: too much out of that. I just feel like and 760 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: you can tell me what you think about Canalis that 761 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: it'll make it should make more sense. I just am 762 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: more concerned that even if he plays better, the talent 763 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: around him, is the coaching enough to like, what's the 764 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: upside here, Like, it's the ceiling's still probably pretty low 765 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: even if he plays better. I keep comping him to 766 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: Alex Smith just in terms of like where he could 767 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: go as one of the worst rookie quarterbacks of all 768 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: time to a pretty respectable second year under North Turner 769 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, where I was like, Okay, 770 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: this guy is going to have a career and be 771 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: a decent enough starter. 772 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: That's that's probably the hope. 773 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: But I still think everything around him is probably close 774 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: to bottom five level. 775 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 776 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: I mean the offensive line they did improve, and it 777 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: was such a disaster last year, but it's one of 778 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: those ones where they invested so much money in it. 779 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: It's like even if it's just like bad. 780 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: Right, maybe Damian Lewis and Robert Hunt, like how many 781 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: people were talking about them as difference makers last year. 782 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, No, I think it's not going to 783 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: be great. The only thing you can buy. 784 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: It's like trying to give Bryce Young his second contract 785 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: now by buying other. 786 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: Players in the hopes he may be good and. 787 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: Then you can make a decision, but at some point 788 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: you would have to pay him then at that point, 789 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: So it's I think it's a gutsy strategy to basically 790 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: make yourself bad on defense. 791 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: We will be old and bad on defense. 792 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 3: To give this guy a hope is to their credit 793 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: of trying to find out what they got with this guy. 794 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: I just don't like the pairing of the coach of 795 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: the quarterback. I think worked to a point of Canalis 796 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: is a really good motivator, confidence builder. I view him 797 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: as more of like a glorified quarterback coach who's also 798 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: the head coach. Where I get concerned from what he's 799 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: been messaging and what they've shown so far is that 800 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 3: he will have a hands on role in the actual offense. 801 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: That gives me a cause to pause and concerned. I 802 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 3: just don't think that fits with Bryshung the player at all. 803 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: So even if you can build it slightly, I think 804 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna end up with this season where it's like 805 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: Bryce Sung's maybe there's something in there, and that isn't 806 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: really a good answer. Either you kind of just want 807 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: to know right by the end of the year. Either 808 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: this isn't gonna work. We've got to pull the ripcorn 809 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 3: and find a way out because we've got to build 810 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: the rest of our roster. We've sunk so much money 811 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: into the offensive line. Now we're gonna have to make 812 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: some tough decisions. 813 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: Or Yeah, we got it. 814 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: There's a pathway to stardom here and we can start 815 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 3: building around that. And I think what they're building here, 816 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: for some strange reason, in my opinion, is some part 817 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: some kind of Jared Goffian, Baker mayfield Ian Russell wilson 818 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 3: Ian type offense that just is not a fit for Brys. 819 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: Youung the player based on the line. 820 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: Why now, Like why not? 821 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: So you said Canalis being so involved in running the 822 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: offense is almost a red flag for you. Their offensive 823 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: coordinator is Brad Idzick. Just the name Idzick freaks me out. 824 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: It's sort of like the opposite of, you know, Nepo Baby. 825 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: But I guess it worked out for him that, like 826 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: he overcame what happened with his dad with the Jets. 827 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: But why don't you think Canalis and Young fit perfectly together? 828 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? 829 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: And if you go through the rest of the staff, 830 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 3: these are all his boys from Seattle. He just went 831 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: through the phone book. He brought all his boys to 832 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: them Seattle. They didn't go and bring out someone as 833 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: an outside high who maybe would blend more with a 834 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: true spread type style that Bryce Young I think would 835 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 3: be best. And now I've said this in a bunch 836 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: of places, so I'm sorry people heard this before. But 837 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: he's such an unusual player. To try and build a 838 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: typical offense that constrains the quarterback that is Jared Goffian 839 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: when he doesn't have those skills makes no sense. And 840 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: it sounds like I've been smoking when chweed or something 841 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 3: to say, you've got a bill swing no one's ever 842 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: seen before. Man, it's got to look completely different, man. 843 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: But I think that's true. 844 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 3: I think you need this is we've never seen someone 845 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 3: with that skill set whose best trait is tap dancing 846 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: in the backfield, right, That's the number one bryising thing. 847 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: Can he create and playmate from the backfield so in 848 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: a Drew Brees body, that's who he is. So what 849 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: you have to do is given as many options as 850 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: possible on every single play. You know, constraining him in 851 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: a two man route combination offense, whereas you hit the 852 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: deep cross while you check it down. He's just not 853 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: that player. He doesn't drive the ball down the field 854 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson. He doesn't drive the ball down the 855 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: field like Gered Goff. These guys where it's a point 856 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 3: and shoot, take that and go. That's not who he is, 857 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: and that's the style they've been running in the preseason. 858 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: It's a whole bunch of concept feed coverage. If the 859 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 3: concept wins, get rid of the ball. So you're trying 860 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: to make him Baker Mayfield by limiting him as much 861 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: as possible. That's what they're trying to do. When the 862 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: point of taking the guy would be he can create 863 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: for us, and you can only create if there are 864 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: as many options out in the route as possible, so 865 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 3: that he can move around, bounce and then go find 866 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: people downfield. 867 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: Maybe like I'm trying to think, well, what would be 868 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: good for him? 869 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: And you're right, I saw I think people underrate or 870 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: have forgotten about his potential creativity. He didn't have the 871 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: confidence to necessarily do it. Certainly he can throw with anticipation, 872 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: and he showed a little bit of that in that preseason, 873 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: just the way he was moving looked good. 874 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, this guy's in the NFL. 875 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: You realize that I'm trying to think what would be 876 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: good for him is like a like a Deshaun Watson 877 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: and Houston type of thing. 878 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 3: Even then, I mean that was again Deshaun drives the 879 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: ball down the field. It's really it's difficult to play 880 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 3: in an offense where you're basically in a three man situation. 881 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: That's a lot of what they do these like levels concepts, 882 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: you call them deep, intermediate, short, that's a lot of 883 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: what those offenses are. When your guy can't truly drive 884 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 3: it down the field, it has to be a lot 885 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: of what the Rams have done when they get into 886 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: empty is it's a double stack, switch releases, and then 887 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: you can just throw it open. 888 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 4: Swan runs underneath it. That's what you would need. 889 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: Now. I think they should be at ten, fifteen, twelve 890 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 3: percent in empty and just have oz on a podcast 891 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: people writing deep features. 892 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: How are the Panthers running empty? 893 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: It by far the highest rate since Brady was really 894 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: cooking in twenty That's what it should be, Noriy. 895 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: But that's where I threw out Watson because if I'm right, 896 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot. I was just trying 897 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: to think who can be a point guard and just 898 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: create and options and they will be fun. That's a 899 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: fun one to watch in Week one. They're playing the Saints. 900 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: I do like Week one games where it feels as 901 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: close to a must win as possible. So on one hand, 902 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: like Saints Panthers is low on everyone's list of probably 903 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: what they're watching first, and yet if that game is 904 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: fifteen to twelve in the fourth quarter, Panthers are leading 905 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: the Saints and that crowd is booing Derek Carr a 906 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: little bit and grumbling, there actually feels like there'd be 907 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: more stakes in that game because the Saints can't lose 908 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: that game to start the season than almost any other 909 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: NFL game out there. So that's fun to me. Every 910 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: game in Week one is a little fun in different ways. 911 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: It was great having you Ali again. If I can 912 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: do anything, listen to this podcast that Ali does with 913 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: John Ledyard and Oli does a great job writing too. 914 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: You can get smarter. 915 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: And so that's over at the Read Option Podcasts and 916 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: we hope to have Ali on throughout the course of 917 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: the season until Tuesday look, I'm gonna have Jordan rodriegback, 918 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: and before the season starts, we're gonna choose what would 919 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: be our ideal roster, almost like a preseason All Pro team, 920 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: but in the fifty three million roster form. It's gonna 921 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: be a fun exercise until then football's back.