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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for it. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak, is that woo woom?

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Speaker 3: And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein, it's Valentine's Day at

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Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 1: Of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Valentine's Day. We're recording this couple of

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Speaker 2: days before Valentine's Day. But to me, this is a

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Speaker 2: month long celebration, a week long celebration. You know me, Tie,

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Speaker 2: I bathe in the romance Dacouzie. Also, I don't recommend

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Speaker 2: that you bathe in romance, Dacusies. I sort of spiritually

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Speaker 2: do it. I am very excited for this. We just

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Speaker 2: But I think this is how I approach it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you did the same way. This is

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Speaker 2: not like I love like halfback suite. This is like

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Speaker 2: care who knows it. I love this archetype of quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Like this I like this team's current defensive makeup. I

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Speaker 2: So this is more specific about things that.

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Speaker 1: Get our heart beating time.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can feel it, get the hairs on our

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Speaker 3: Get those butterflies, yeah, get our heads swirling.

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Speaker 1: I must have Alex Golish's offense settle, settle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is this is uh, we're honoring love

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Speaker 2: and college football today.

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Speaker 3: But wherever it is that you may be. If Valentine's

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Speaker 3: Day is your thing, yeah, hope you enjoy your day

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Speaker 3: on Friday. Do you have anything planned with the missus?

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Speaker 3: Maybe we can get into that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be out in California. I think the plan

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Speaker 2: We'll have babysitting with my parents, so we'll be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have one to night out wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Be a little bit warmer out there as well. Wherever

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Speaker 3: you are, wherever you may be, enjoy your Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: When you think about.

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Speaker 2: Love, it always were always Well, how.

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Speaker 3: We actually put a post that you did yesterday. At

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Speaker 1: Of be our producers. Yeah. Help us. We did the

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Speaker 1: show here in the off season, So all right, Dan Rubistein.

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Speaker 3: On that note, we have waited far too long to

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Speaker 1: Probably the last ten years or so. It's not a

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm appreciating the sport I don't. I don't care

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Speaker 3: We do it best, but perhaps we're biased. Why don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if this is a story

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Speaker 2: on this love Ty. I'm willing to fight for this

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Speaker 3: First and foremost, Yeah, you buried the lead by not

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Speaker 3: dedicating this entire show concept to Marcus Freeman and his

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Speaker 3: dame you that's your number one. No, are you out

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Speaker 3: It's it's in the same genus, phylum, and species as PJ.

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Speaker 2: Honestly? Are you monitoring Marcus Freeman's pants?

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Speaker 3: Now, the reason I bring this up. You know why

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Speaker 2: Well, this brings up a new question. What are Bill

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing about coaches. And I say this lovingly

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Speaker 3: all of them. They're all sickos in a great college

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Speaker 3: So I'd like to move past this part of the

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Speaker 2: College coach fashion decisions that a coach is going to

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Speaker 1: I'm a visor.

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Speaker 2: Big Ten Championship game, I thought to myself, I can't

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Speaker 2: look away, but Jeremiah Smith is going to hurt me

439
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Speaker 2: and I know.

440
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: He's going to hurt love them until you realize you

441
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: have to play against.

442
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: Them, that there's going to be that conversation between you

443
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: and Jeremiah Smith, and as Oregon and Ohio State appear

444
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: to be on at least a short term collision course

445
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten these next couple of seasons that

446
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith will still be eligible. I love Jeremiah Smith.

447
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith is going to hurt me. And so that

448
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: is my very specific romantic entanglement. I have been in

449
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: that entangle. We were like, Wow, this is clearly heading

450
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: to a place of acrimony and it's going to be

451
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: painful for everybody involved. But but come on, I'm having

452
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: fun right now.

453
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: Why not? All right?

454
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: So that's my relationship with Jeremiah Smith.

455
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Speaker 1: Let me make it awkward. Segue over to the Yukon Huskies. Yeah.

456
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: So they were three and nine last year, and I

457
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: went back through before we did this episode. I was

458
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: looking through my notes to see what I said about

459
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Speaker 3: the Yukon Huskies, and this is a team that I

460
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Speaker 3: think had won six games in Jim Morri's first year.

461
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Speaker 3: They took a step back won three games in his

462
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Speaker 3: second year, and coming into this year, the questions that

463
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: I had were mostly around the fact that there was

464
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Speaker 3: a lot new Even though the schedule was easier, it

465
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: was hard to see them taking a giant step forward. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 3: I didn't see it. Yukon had eight games decided by

467
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: ten points or fewer this year, including seven.

468
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Speaker 1: In a row to and the regular season.

469
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Speaker 3: Then they go on to beat North Carolina. I'll hollowed

470
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Speaker 3: out North Carolina. I should add by thirteen in the

471
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: bowl game to finish nine and four. Yes, Jim Moore's

472
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: third year. On top of that, one of the other

473
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: things that I noted in the preseason was that they

474
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: had switched up to a three three five defense, which

475
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Speaker 3: from now until the end of time will fascinate me.

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

477
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm just always into the three through five. But they

478
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: switched up to the three three five led by Matt Brock,

479
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: who I believe came from Mississippi State, and it was

480
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: just unclear how any of this stuff was going to take.

481
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: They had a quarterback from Maine, like it was like,

482
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: what's going to happen, what's gonna have? Which way is

483
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: this thing going?

484
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: The way?

485
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Sidebar here on the three three five. Every sport kind

486
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: of has its own version of coach comes in and says, actually,

487
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to do.

488
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: This is how we're going to do it.

489
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: Like if Penn State hired a new basketball coach and

490
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: you're watching the press or whatever, and that coach says,

491
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Speaker 2: here's something that I think people are going to be into.

492
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna press all game, every game, full court. Yeah,

493
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: you're like, oh huh, all right, I'm into wear this.

494
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: It's like, sure, it's a vision, it's a strategy. It's

495
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: perhaps unique in a sea of similar systems, and a

496
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: lot of teams run you know, a three three five

497
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: situationally or they are three three five elements. But I

498
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: always do appreciate.

499
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: Where you're just like, yeah, we're Jeff Castile heads over

500
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: here at Arizona at West Virginia and.

501
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: We love we're going three to three five and that's

502
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: who we are and let's get weird with it.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

504
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of Penn State basketball. By the way, Eric Haslam

505
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: who does something called Haslo Metrics. He currently has Penn

506
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: State basketball three hundred and sixty fourth out of three

507
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty four college basketball teams on this so

508
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: they could use on his momentum metrics. They have bottomed out.

509
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: They're horrible. They're so bad. If there is a version

510
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: of the three three five or the forty Minutes of

511
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: Hell or any sort of new and novel basketball concept.

512
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Penn State is interested, Dan, they are interested, full stop

513
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: introductory press conference. Yeah, all centers, no disrespect to Matt Rhodes.

514
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: While I was all about yeah nah, now we're start oops,

515
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: all centers, the new Penn State basketball experience.

516
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Great, it's so bad right now. It is so bad

517
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: right now.

518
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: I won't go too far down the line with talking

519
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Penn State basketball, but yeah, to say the least, it

520
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: has not been not been a pleasant introduction for Matt

521
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: Rhodes since coming over from I mean VCU.

522
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Speaker 2: I guess it's a volleyball school. Tie, It's cool.

523
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: It's a wrestling school.

524
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Volleyball and wrestling.

525
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what Penn State does. Continue all right, da,

526
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: it's Micros. By the way, I'm calling him Matt micro Rose.

527
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's he hasn't earned it proper first name

528
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: if you're three hundred and sixty fourth in moment.

529
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Speaker 1: My apologies.

530
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Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to send out just I'm not

531
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: going to make this too official, okay, but I just

532
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: want to know that I'm I want this to know

533
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: that I am interested in it and the reason that

534
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: I'm going to give this a Valentine is because, frankly,

535
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. But I am curious, not fully

536
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 3: against it. I'm curious. It's a trend.

537
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: You and I have talked about it. It is this.

538
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Weirdness of running backs that have two mouthpieces. Okay, I

539
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: don't understand this, Dan casual and formal. I don't understand this.

540
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: I really don't, and I don't know enough about it

541
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: to truly hate it. But I know enough about it

542
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: to not understand it at all.

543
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: And it's this gets your juices flowing. I understand where

544
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: the love in Valentine is.

545
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. I'm curious. I'm intrigued about the

546
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: things that I don't understand. Okay, Okay, the words that way,

547
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: I apologize.

548
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: I apologize for talking about ties juices so openly and flippantly.

549
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: Continue in the words of Ted Lasso, don't be judgmental,

550
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: but be curious.

551
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I am curious here. Okay.

552
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: It seems to me there's only a limited amount of

553
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: real estate on the front of the helmet. Yeah, you

554
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: can't hang a whole lot down there, right.

555
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Just limited limited act. You need to be able to

556
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: see where you're going.

557
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: Okay, who is was there a running back? Specifically?

558
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Dude?

559
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: Some guy from Oregon had it?

560
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Jordan James.

561
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Jordan James had it.

562
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And I saw this pop up randomly throughout

563
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: the course of this past season.

564
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't remember it being a thing before this season.

565
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: So you're not you're not trying to be Judgie, You're

566
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: not trying to be a scold. But we're saying here today,

567
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Ty hilden Brandt Colin mouth curious. I'm just trying to

568
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: translate here for.

569
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Speaker 1: The people mouthpiece curious please.

570
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, mouth curious, mouthpiece.

571
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Gario's stick with that. So this is I think the equivalent.

572
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to work this out in.

573
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 3: My head because I knew you would be dead silent

574
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: when I mentioned this. Sure, I was trying to work

575
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: out in my head what is the equivalent, And this

576
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: is the equivalent of the of the person Okay, with

577
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: like the very interesting look or very interesting personality or

578
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: just very interesting character trait.

579
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that.

580
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: You didn't think you'd be into, but you're kind of

581
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: into and you just need to know more about it

582
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: before you can.

583
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: You know, do you have personal experience with this. I

584
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: never thought I'd be into somebody who appeared to be

585
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: or seems to be blank, But here I am intrigued.

586
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: I could be big, could be a little, a bob haircut,

587
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, or look Gothy, maybe me.

588
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

589
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: I need to think more about this, Okay. Anyway, two mouthpieces,

590
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: two mouthpieces. Yeah, they get, they get one of the

591
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: Valentines dropped in the bag on the front of their desk.

592
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I have rich Rod coming back, and I love it

593
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: for West Virginia fans. Okay, So this is it's something

594
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: that so many people seem to want to revisit. Will

595
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: it be an Affleck Lopez situation? Getting back together? Hoping

596
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: that this high profile I mean, that was a pretty

597
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: influential thing for like celebrity gossip. Right, Yeah, West Virginia

598
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: and rich Rod round one very influential college football offenses.

599
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's going to work out,

600
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: but you know, a central tenet of who I am

601
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: is glac tie give love a chance, sure, and so

602
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm given this a chance. That they circled back and

603
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: found each other once again, they realized how right they

604
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: may be for each other, and so I love this

605
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: for them, that they're giving it a shot, to really

606
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: give it the old college try tie in their middle age.

607
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they just weren't meant for each other

608
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: in the long term early, but they've seen other people

609
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: and they're circling back and saying, you know what, we

610
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: had it good together, we had a spark. And so

611
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: this is not my opinion necessarily that it's going to

612
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: work out. But I love it for the swing of it.

613
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: No pun intended, I love it pun intended there come on,

614
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: because no, it's not a swing situation, that's not a Dallian's,

615
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: it's not a one night thing. I love it for

616
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: the the vision and the hope of it all.

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Speaker 1: So I love it. I'm great with it.

618
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: Speaking of vision, speaking of hope, let's talk about Sam Levitt.

619
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Speaker 3: Shall we let's how did you feel about Sam Levitt?

620
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Towards you?

621
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Speaker 2: I have a very very similar item here, I felt

622
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: great about Sam Levitt.

623
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Speaker 3: I have Sam Levitt here. I have Kevin jennings On

624
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: here in a similar vein. I have Sawyer Robertson actually

625
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: on great good answer in a very similar vein. And

626
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: I think the general thrust pun intended of this is.

627
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about quarterbacks.

628
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: Who maybe weren't coming into this season with a whole

629
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: lot of acclaim. Kevin Jennings was a backup, sam Levitt

630
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: was a transfer. Sawyer Robertson a lot of us at

631
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: the start of the season, or maybe not start of

632
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: the season, but say started the preseason, started the transfer

633
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: portal cycle. Thought it was going to be the Kwan Finn.

634
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: These are all guys who were overlooked in some capacity,

635
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: and I think all of them stepped up in a

636
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: huge way. Sam Levitt coming into this coming season is

637
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: like one of the top quarterbacks, truly one of the

638
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: top quarterbacks. What he was able to do down the stretch,

639
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: it speaks vis about his own talent, but certainly just

640
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: a scouting department that Kenny Dillingham's put together. Sam Levitt

641
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: didn't come in with much acclaim. He was a transfer

642
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: from Michigan State, so it barely saw a field. We

643
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: did the show with Bruce a couple of weeks ago.

644
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: We talked about what Dillingham did and bringing him to

645
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: Tempe and how that was a coup.

646
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge deal, huge deal. He's the real deal. Kevin

647
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: Jennings well, Kevin Jennings.

648
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Took over relatively early. It was an eyebrow raiser for me,

649
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 3: just speaking personally, because I was in on Preston Stone.

650
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: I was in on SMU I think before almost anybody,

651
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: and when you were high. When they lost that game

652
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: in the manner that they did eighteen fifteen, Week two,

653
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: I believe to BYU. I did not CBOYU coming at all.

654
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: But for me, it was like a gasp, an audible gasp,

655
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: when I saw that they pulled Preston Stone. I didn't

656
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: understand it at the time. I came to understand it

657
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: obviously the deeper we got into the year with watching

658
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: more and more Kevin Jennings. He was a really good quarterback,

659
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: really good quarterback, and definitely gave that offense another dimension.

660
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: And then the Sawyer Robertson thing I think was really overlooked.

661
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: But Sawyer Robertson again, I didn't think he was going

662
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: to start. Swy Robinson ended up being pretty good through

663
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: twenty eight touchdowns just eight picks. His completion percentage went

664
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: way up over the previous season in limited action. I

665
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: think he's the real deal. I genuinely think he's the

666
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: real deal, and I don't think it's going to get

667
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 3: a lot of love because Baylor wasn't one of these

668
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: top line teams that we talked a whole lot about

669
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: this season. But I do think they were able to

670
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: pull their offense together largely on his arm. And so

671
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: those three guys in particular, I think when I'm thinking

672
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: of guys that deserve a Valentine, Kevin Jenyns, Sam Levitz,

673
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Swyer Robertson.

674
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: So basically, you're saying last year's off season was the

675
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: first half of She's all that, yes, and then the over,

676
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: and then the glasses came off at the start of

677
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: the season, and we have the second half of She's

678
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: all that, She's all that situation. And I guess in

679
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: this scenario, Kalane sitake is Freddy Prince Junior. Don't do

680
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: that to him, Freddy Prince Junior.

681
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm out on Freddy. I've always really yeah, I'm out. Okay.

682
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It seems to have had a

683
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: pretty good.

684
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: What was the baseball movie he was in Summer Catch

685
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: with Jessca Bill Okay, classic.

686
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not a classic.

687
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: What we need to talk about being in the middle

688
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: of a no hitter at the end of this thing,

689
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: leave it walking off the mound.

690
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I get that.

691
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: As Jessca Bill, Okay, glac continue. You can give love

692
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: a chance without walking off the mound in the middle

693
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: of a no hitter to catch Jessica Bill at the airport.

694
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 3: That is unforgivable. I don't know, man unforgivable.

695
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how old I was when that movie

696
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: came out. You can look up the year that movie

697
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: came out. I think there was a sprinkler scene with

698
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 2: Jessica Bill.

699
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it, I get it. Movie

700
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: is in two thousand and one, so just as we

701
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: were all coming of age.

702
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I get it.

703
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: It was eighteen seventeen. H I get it, all right.

704
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: I get it.

705
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: From that standpoint, I don't get you can't walk off

706
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: the mound in the middle of a no hitter?

707
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: Did Freddy Prince, Mary Sarah Michelle Geller?

708
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: I believe so?

709
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Just how can you hate on Freddy Prince?

710
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: I hate on it because of that scene. That's a

711
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: character tie playing a role. I hate the character. I

712
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: hate the plot.

713
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: There are a lot of wasn't he in Scooby Doo?

714
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: Another reason to not be in that was a bad

715
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: movieby Doo.

716
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I hadn't seen the movie pro Scooby Doo. That

717
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: was fred bad movie. I haven't seen it.

718
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: Uh, here's what I have down for, Like the Sam

719
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: Levitt situation, I have asu energy now. I didn't love

720
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: some of Kenny Dillingham's initial hires and Bo Baldwin's gone,

721
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: and so I was sort of skeptical about like this

722
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: first time coach stepping into the situation and having to

723
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: recruit so many portal guys and just backfilling and like

724
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: really struggling to round the program into shape quickly. But

725
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: what he's done in year two we talked about in

726
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: the playoff, And this is the point I made. This

727
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: isn't a point you made that like it increases the

728
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: number of teams who feel like they're CEE were failures

729
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: because they failed on a bigger stage with this expanded playoff.

730
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: And you know, Oregon goes thirteen and oh wins the

731
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: Big Ten in their first season, And how do you

732
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: look at the season and in any other way than

733
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: like at least a semi failure because of the way

734
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: they lost the Rose Bowl to Ohio State, that it's

735
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: heaping unnecessarily unnecessary negativity on other like the way Indiana,

736
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Indiana is like yelled at by Kirk Herb Street because

737
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: they weren't as good as Notre Dame with a quarterback

738
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: who had attorn acl whereas Indiana should be looked at

739
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: as one of the overwhelmingly positive stories of the season. ASU,

740
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: even with their loss in the playoff, has immaculate vibes

741
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: and energy heading into twenty twenty five. That if you

742
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: could bottle what ASU fans feel right now about their program,

743
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: about Kenny Dillingham's enthusiasm and the rocket ship that is

744
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: ASU football. The only negative thing I feel about ASU

745
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: in this moment about Arizona State is that my team,

746
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: also on the West coast, doesn't get to participate. That

747
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: that could have been a really fun back and forth

748
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: with the Kenny Dillingham Dan Landing connection. That ASU and

749
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Oregon are now ships passing in the night out west,

750
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: and so the energy though it's I don't know if

751
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: it's a honeymoon phase comparison here, but it's kind of

752
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: You're in a new relationship and man, things.

753
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: Are just going so well now. You are just.

754
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: Vibent TI and so I love that for ASU because

755
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: that's not something that one hundred and twenty four teams

756
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: have at the moment.

757
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: What else do you got?

758
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Also on my list of things that I love, I

759
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: have zerbiac qbs and specifically the Diego Pavia presence in

760
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: our live But like, there's more than just Diego Pavia, Right,

761
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: they're the dual threat guys that it's third and two.

762
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: You know that they are going to be counted on somehow,

763
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: some way. Well, you know Taylor Green at Arkansas, the

764
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: guys that are just like the offense is this guy

765
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: in the way that Miami of Ohio's offense and people

766
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: are constantly making walle Zerbiak references in twenty twenty five.

767
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: As we all know, of course, in the mid to

768
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: early nineties, whenever it was in the Ohio player, Miami

769
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: Ohio the do everything quarterback that obviously we've seen it

770
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: at places like Florida with Tim Tebow and dual threats

771
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: all over the place. They are like, well, it's fourth

772
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: and short. This you're getting a healthy dose of this.

773
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: But Diego Pavia beat Alabama doing it. I can appreciate that.

774
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that we have him. I believe still

775
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: in our lives at Vanderbilt somehow some.

776
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: Years of eligibility. Does he have left some kind of injunction?

777
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: He has at least.

778
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: One per.

779
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: I think the latest round in lawsuits. Yeah, but that's

780
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: stemming from eligibility that he believes he is due because

781
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: of the way the NCAA treats junior college. So I

782
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: don't does he have one does he have two years left?

783
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: I think he has a year left, by the way,

784
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: I don't.

785
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

786
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Uh Notre Dame rode this concept to a national championship, Berth.

787
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was going to say,

788
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: if we're given props to one Diego Pavia by your definition,

789
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: shouldn't Riley Leonard also be in that category?

790
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

791
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean they both use that energy to beat disappointing

792
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: SEC teams.

793
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: It's right.

794
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, it tracks, and so I'm.

795
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Good with it.

796
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Ty, I'm good with it. And I appreciate the Diego

797
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: Pavia experience. I have Sharon Moore, WHOA, yeah, okay, I do.

798
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: What is your what is your romantic connection to the

799
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: Sharon war twenty twenty four experience.

800
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: It's not so much to twenty twenty four experience.

801
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: It's more it's more a situation that I think has

802
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: a ton of potential moving forward. Okay, okay, you're planning

803
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: your flag now, I am, I am. I think we

804
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: find ourselves in this situation as fans all too often

805
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: when a big name coach leaves hands it over to

806
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: a lieutenant, and we're used to that situation running out

807
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: of steam.

808
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

809
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: You know, I think go way back to like Butch

810
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Davis at Miami giving it to Larry Cocher.

811
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: That ran out of steam, right, right.

812
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: We've seen instances over the years now where that is

813
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: not the case.

814
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Right.

815
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: Notre Dame handed it over to Marcus Freeman. Clearly they

816
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: went to a national championship game, but it's just hard

817
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: to follow a legend of sorts like Jim Harbaugh was Michigan.

818
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: So would this be like you dating Kate's best friend

819
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: if it didn't work out? We were like, well, we

820
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: don't know where this is going, but there's a familiarity

821
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: there that I'm hopeful I have not.

822
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Worked out there to take care of my head.

823
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Okay, but where I'm going with this is it was

824
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: a rocky first year for Sharon Moore.

825
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: It was it was rocky first.

826
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: Year, and I just feel like it is all too

827
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 3: common over the history of this sport for the coach

828
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: to not recognize what needs to change, for him to

829
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: keep doing what he thinks he should have done in

830
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: year one, and for it to come off the rails

831
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: very quickly. And I don't think Sharon Moore is doing that.

832
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: I think Sharon Moore, through what Michigan has done in

833
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: the recruiting game with Bryce Underwood, through what they have

834
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: done in trying to overhaul some of the staff, it

835
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: feels to me like Sharon Moore recognizes what needs to

836
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: change in order to get Michigan too a better place

837
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: moving forward. And so I'm hopeful I'm not taking all

838
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: of my reputation, what little remains of it on Michigan

839
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: to use your terminology becoming this rocket ship. I don't

840
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: know if that's going to happen. I like Bryce Underwood.

841
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: I think Bryce Underwood's a real deal.

842
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Okay, But.

843
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: Sharon Moore feels to me with the way that he

844
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: got that team playing down the stretch, with beating Ohio State,

845
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: with beating Alabama to close out the year, with some

846
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: of the momentum, I think they've been able to capture

847
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: here through the recruiting game, some of the hires that

848
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: they have made to try and I think round out

849
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: that staff. I like what he is doing, and I

850
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: am optimistic that moving forward he can get that program

851
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: back to a point where we're not talking about them

852
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: in terms of an offense that is just hamstrung by

853
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: a bad system or a bad quarterback or whatever.

854
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: You know.

855
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: I think they're going to get better. I think they're

856
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: going to get better. I think they're going to get

857
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: better quickly. And I just think it was a really

858
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 3: awkward start as an awkward transition year. Now definitely deserves

859
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: some of the blame for thinking that they can roll

860
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: with the quarterbacks that they had on their sharp chart, right,

861
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: thinking they can roll with Alex Orgie or Davis Warren

862
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: or Jack Tuttle, thinking that they had enough there. That's

863
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: on Sharon Moore, that's on the offensive staff. But this

864
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: this strikes me at least as somebody who may be

865
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: recognized at some point midway through the year that they

866
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: needed to change and has since been working diligently to

867
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: try and change it. I would say it almost feels

868
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: like you've you've always had a soft spot for Sharon

869
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: Moore and then found out Sharon Moore got a huge inheritance,

870
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: and now you're just like, oh, I don't know. Maybe

871
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: we could see if there's something there that there's an

872
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: infusion of cash in the Charon romance, give love a chance.

873
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: If Sharon Mooy's you're coming off a little bit like

874
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: a gold digger here a little bit?

875
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean if Larry Ellison's coming to the table,

876
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: I can see. My next item is Notre Dame fans

877
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: positive that people now think they're cool. I love this.

878
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: I love that it wasn't just you, it was Notre

879
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: Dame fans in general. Be like, hey, guys, we're pretty

880
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: cool now. I don't know if you noticed, but we

881
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: have a coach who's under fifty and we're not as

882
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: unlikable on the sideline, and so we're pretty where's.

883
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: The tight white pants. Don't forget the tightwhears, tight white pants.

884
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: Our fans talk about our coaches pants a lot. We're

885
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: pretty cool. And meanwhile, every single Notre Dame broadcast like

886
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: starts out with the year. It was nineteen forty two.

887
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: Frank Lay's mind was overseas and the conflict in Europe

888
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: but he thought to himself, and then we're like, yeah,

889
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: it's Notre Dame. We don't have the rights to that.

890
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: Stop humming. So I appreciate that. But yeah, you do

891
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: tune in, tune into NBC and there is they're like no, no, right,

892
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: right right rah.

893
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: So I appreciate it that that Notre Dame fans took

894
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: a nice delusional step forward in twenty twenty four. Notre

895
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Dame football excellent, really good, very strong on both sides

896
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: of the ball, difficult team to be, had a sensational season.

897
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: But also, let's let's not go too crazy. All right,

898
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: let's go let's not go too crazy.

899
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: I agree with that, but yeah, but counterpoint, yes, yes,

900
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: I cannot tell you in my one of my my

901
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: late thirties now, in my thirty plus years of being

902
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: a Notre Dame football fan, yeah, and in my thirty

903
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 3: plus years of having in some cases the same group

904
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 3: of friends, all of whom hated Notre Dame. Yeah, never

905
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: before can I ever remember conversations with that same group

906
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: of friends was agnostic on Notre Dame. That's a direct quote,

907
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: a direct quote. I cannot tell you how big of

908
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: an upgrade that is. Okay, as compared to previous conversations

909
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: right where it was the full kitchen sink of anti

910
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: Notre Dame stuff come in my way. It's an easy schedule.

911
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: It's I mean, truly ran the gamut of reasons to

912
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: hate the Irish to hear some of my very close

913
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: childhood friends talking through now why they're agnostic on Notre Dame.

914
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's likely to change. Mm hmm. That

915
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: is an upgrade, now, are they cool? Maybe that's a

916
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: bit of a stretch, right, is this a one year thing?

917
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: Perhaps it's sort of like the show Queer Eye for

918
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 2: the Straight Guy Tye. Remember that show I do where

919
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: it's like day one and they get a haircut and

920
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: they're like it's a new meme, Like.

921
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's some more work.

922
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 2: It's a lot of board games in that living room.

923
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to people who like board games. I am

924
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: one of those people. I like board games. But you

925
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: can't have the whole identity be board games.

926
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: Why do we have eight boxes? Part cheesy back here?

927
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: So many more than eight? Yeah, so there is They're like, yes,

928
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: things are improved, there is there is something more modern

929
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: that now that you own a.

930
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: Charcouterie board or whatever.

931
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know. There's a lot of baggage there,

932
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: that's all.

933
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of media items. Oh dude, I

934
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: have more football stuff. Do you do the football stuff?

935
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: I can close out with my weird media stuff.

936
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on. Similarly to how I feel

937
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: about Avery Johnson, I'm not giving up on Nico. I'm

938
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: doubling down.

939
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Ty.

940
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: I know the season did not end crazy well in Columbus. Oh,

941
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: but it wasn't his fault. It wasn't not his fault.

942
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it was his fault.

943
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously the Tennessee defense was not

944
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: prepared for Ohio States and the ceiling and the firepower.

945
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: But he also at times, the only thing that was

946
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: working for Tennessee, I guess was Nico's legs. Yeah, but

947
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: even still, I mean, the loss had Arkansas like it

948
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: wasn't like an arrival of Nico in the way that

949
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: I thought it would be.

950
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: But I think it's been relative to expectations a bit underwhelming. Yes,

951
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: And I say that not to take anything away from Nico,

952
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 3: because I still think he is legit. I still think

953
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: he is as advertised, but for a whole multitude of reasons.

954
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: It just hasn't landed quite like we expected, at least

955
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 3: not as not as quickly as we expected.

956
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: I have Brett Bilima potst. I love it. I love that,

957
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, he and Lane Kiff and go back and forth.

958
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: A little bit. I love all of that mega.

959
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: I love having that in our livestrol. Brett Bilima, Yeah,

960
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: I have here. I have like very specific like style

961
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: things that I just continue to love in the sport,

962
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: Tulane just in general, the wave, the helmets, the light

963
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: blue uniforms. I have the SMU Big D branding. Anytime

964
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: I see that Settle tie Settle, I just appreciate that

965
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned Oregon Pain. Look, Oregon's in a wonderful place

966
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: in this sport with regard to nil and money, and

967
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, they're just in a great place. I have

968
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: a lot of Oregon Pain memories in my life, and

969
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm sticking through ty So I still love that LSU's

970
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: white helmet. I have Williams Bryce down here.

971
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

972
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love and this is more general to

973
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: football and potential. I love the idea, the continued idea

974
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: of and maybe this goes with our like wild card

975
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: entanglement that we talked about agent of chaos Mississippi State

976
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: that they have hired very specific coaches in Mike Leach

977
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: and Dan Mullen and now Jeff Levy, who are considered

978
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: to be very specific offensive minds that are going to

979
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: be tasked with both finding high level players locally and

980
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: also perhaps players who are slept on to run offenses

981
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: that are going to give the more advantage. Programs in

982
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: the SEC fits and upset them sometimes and maybe even

983
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: peaks like an eight, nine to ten win program. So

984
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: the idea of that in Starkville is something that I'm

985
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: always going to come back to. And I think Jeff Levy,

986
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: pending what he's able to continue to do in the

987
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: portal and on the trail, there is something that I

988
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: just can't quit about that idea, even knowing it's a.

989
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Wild card tie.

990
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if Mississippi State wins ten games, Jeff Levy's

991
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: getting his own show next year.

992
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying as a program they have that like

993
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: random season ceiling. I don't know if that exists in

994
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: the new look SEC. And sure how difficult it is

995
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: now to you keep a roster together and you know

996
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: the things that come with being a Mississippi state. But

997
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: even still I have that down as a thing I

998
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: love and even last year losing games, in losing efforts,

999
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: they were an agent of chaos.

1000
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 3: They were interesting. The record wasn't there. They were a

1001
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: bad team at the end of the day, but they

1002
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: were interesting. I love the idea of the Van Buren boys.

1003
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: I thought Michael van Bura was really good. He was

1004
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: a fun wal gone he left go on else you

1005
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: that part sucks, But if they can find more guys

1006
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: like that, perhaps the agent of chaos.

1007
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: Thing can continue.

1008
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: I have and this is an unfortunate part of love

1009
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: and romance, especially in the digital era. You have to

1010
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: deal with stalkers, right, You have to deal with people

1011
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: who are invasive and annoying and going too far. And

1012
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: so because that is an element to romance. In twenty

1013
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: twenty five, I have down here Penn State holding truthers.

1014
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: I contacted Abdulla Carter's fifth grade teacher in her DMS.

1015
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: She agrees with me. She may have blocked me, but

1016
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: shout out missus Abner.

1017
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: He got help.

1018
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: But every play, though every play, you don't need to

1019
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: do the voice he got. He got held on every play.

1020
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: Oregon held him every play in the Big Ten title game.

1021
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: Every play, so say every play, Oh love hurts ty.

1022
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: If you guys knew how to block, maybe you wouldn't

1023
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 3: have lost Ohio State.

1024
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: That's true. That wasn't the issue against State.

1025
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: This is true.

1026
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: We don't need to bring.

1027
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: Up old s breakups.

1028
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: But uh, he was held on literally every play. And

1029
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: it's in every sport, right, it's strike zone truthers, it

1030
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: is holding truthers. It is traveling in the NBA, which

1031
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 3: is like, yes, listen, listen. Some things don't get called.

1032
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: Some it happens. Penn State has a history of more

1033
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: problematic truthers. I can say that as a Penn State

1034
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: this is not one of them. Okay, he was held

1035
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: on every play.

1036
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: What about the plays where he got to the quarterback

1037
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: and sacked the quarterback?

1038
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: Was that?

1039
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay? That was problem? That was perfect?

1040
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it was a It was a nice

1041
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: new and every you know, we get this every year

1042
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: with teams and fans, but this year was Penn State

1043
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: holding truthers, and that's what we had.

1044
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: You got anything else because I have weird media once

1045
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 3: anything else? I think I have the Dion experience down.

1046
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, I love the having and now the

1047
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: fascination of the Deon experience moving forward with fewer Sanders

1048
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 3: is I think that's it?

1049
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Those are I have LSU's white helmet down and williams

1050
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: Bryce Okay, as things I just year over year, I

1051
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: just continue to love.

1052
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: All Right, what do I have here?

1053
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: I have Chris Simms's obsession with the top button?

1054
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: What is that? Oh?

1055
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: He goes all the way to the top, even when

1056
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: all the way tie.

1057
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

1058
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. It's one of those things, much

1059
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: like the two mouthpiece trend.

1060
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

1061
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 3: He's the only and media I can think of who

1062
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: does this, and he also desperately needs a cowboy hat

1063
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: or something to kind of like at least better explain

1064
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: it to the home viewer. Yes, if that's what you're into,

1065
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: he owns it. I give him props for that. I

1066
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: just don't understand it. I don't get it. It deserves,

1067
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: but it deserves at least a little bit of a

1068
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: Valentine You love your confusion about it?

1069
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do.

1070
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: You're giving you're paying homage. There's also something this is

1071
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: very specific and I don't know why we're talking about it.

1072
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: But it reminds me when I think about Chris Sims.

1073
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: I think about this where there's a very popular kind

1074
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: of haircut where you fade up, you shave the sides

1075
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: and fade up, and there is a point of no return.

1076
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow has also reached this point with his haircut

1077
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: where it goes from cool and sleek to borderline fascist.

1078
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: Right like, there's it's the Tebow zone, the Chris simszone,

1079
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: the Dan Orlovsky zone where you're just like good looking haircut,

1080
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: you want to about a quarter of an inch too

1081
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: far and it's a little like Grainy World at war footage.

1082
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: It's a half inch we went too far, guys, And

1083
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: I think about that with Chris Sims. Continue you'rer next item.

1084
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Sims and the fashion thing. I don't Pete Nacos.

1085
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: I have Pete NACo's here from on three. Okay, I

1086
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't have tweet alerts set up for Pete, but

1087
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 3: I appreciate the fine work that Pete does. I don't

1088
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 3: know if Pete liscons of the show. I see you

1089
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Speaker 3: like some of our stuff, but.

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Speaker 2: Hey, he's a big new news breaker.

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Speaker 1: He does a really good job.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love his on three like transfer portal coverage,

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Speaker 3: and I stand by, I stand good for if he

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Speaker 3: ever comes on the show. We need to come up

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Speaker 3: with a name for like the Pete drops. My understanding

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Speaker 3: is that Andy and Ari have already tried to do that.

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Speaker 3: We're better at it.

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Speaker 1: Pete.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't listen to them. We are better. We're better

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Speaker 3: at coming with the branding thing. I love those guys,

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Speaker 3: you know. I love those guys to be like nay

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Speaker 3: palm right now, that's got negative connotation. I agree, we'll

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Speaker 3: come up with something better, But come on the show.

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Speaker 3: We'll give we'll rebrand you. But thank you for the

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Speaker 3: work that you do.

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Speaker 1: You do a good job. I have.

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Speaker 3: This is another one of these things. I just have

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: things on here that confuse me as well as you know. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm a curious person in my late thirties. I have

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Speaker 3: the TNT playoff pregame show.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, you loved it. I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so now remember this TNT and TBS and just

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Speaker 3: let's just say Turner. They sub licensed two of the

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Speaker 3: playoff games from ESPN. They got the Penn State SMU

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Speaker 3: home game and they also got the Who Was at

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Speaker 3: Texas Clemson game.

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Speaker 1: M hm, they got those two games. Yeah, that sounds right.

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Speaker 3: You would think that in purchasing the rights to those

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Speaker 3: games that there would be more of an emphasis on

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Speaker 3: like shoulder content, I think is what it's called, like

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Speaker 3: the pregame show, the halftime show of the postgame show.

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Speaker 3: They had two games that were back to back, it

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Speaker 3: would have been very easy for.

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Speaker 1: Them to do.

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Speaker 3: So they did have the pregame show live from Beaver Stadium,

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Speaker 3: which was Adam Lefko is very good, alongside Champ Bailey,

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Speaker 3: Takio Spikes, and Victor Cruz.

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Speaker 1: Yep. It was an hour.

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Speaker 3: It started at eleven am Eastern time. The game kicked

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Speaker 3: off at noon. It was cold as hell, very cold.

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Speaker 3: They were all freezing. And so my expectation would be

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Speaker 3: that if you're going to have that game or that

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Speaker 3: pregame slot that then there would be like a halftime

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Speaker 3: thing that goes with it, right, maybe a postgame thing

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Speaker 3: that goes with it, and maybe like a natural transition

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Speaker 3: from the turner side into the next game which immediately followed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Nope, nothing like that.

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Speaker 3: It was one hour and then it disappeared from the

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Speaker 3: face of the earth. The halftime show went to ESPN,

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Speaker 3: the pregame show for the next game also went to ESPN,

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Speaker 3: and all the postgame content went to ESPN. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: have no idea what the plan was for that. To

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Speaker 3: put those guys in that setting, which was freezing cold

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Speaker 3: for one hour, and then for TNT and TBS and

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Speaker 3: Turner as a whole to disappear from all things playoff

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Speaker 3: was a choice that I still don't understand, and I

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Speaker 3: am giving them my Valentine as such.

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Speaker 2: Well, did you want Kenny Smith to be recapping Texas Clemson?

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Speaker 2: The just have limited number of people to talk about

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Speaker 2: college football.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, But if they were willing to put

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Speaker 3: a pregame show out there, why not a halftime show?

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Speaker 1: Why not a postgame show?

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Speaker 3: They if they took the liberty of building a set

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Speaker 3: inside Beaver Stadium, I believe for this, and then we

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Speaker 3: got nothing more out of it outside of that hour.

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Speaker 1: Just do it from the studio or don't do it

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Speaker 1: at all? What's the point.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that they took a very half

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Speaker 3: hearted attempt at this and then it just disappeared. And

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard Heide nor hair about it since.

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Speaker 1: Okay, continue I have this year's quarterback draft class.

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Speaker 3: Stretching my legs a little bit with respect to college football.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like it's going to be something that

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Speaker 3: deserves all of our Valentines over the next couple months,

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Speaker 3: because we are going to hear, frankly, some very weird things, Okay,

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Speaker 3: very weird things. I think there is a consensus that

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Speaker 3: both cam Ward and Shador Sanders deserve to be in

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Speaker 3: that top three. But who comes after? Who comes after

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Speaker 3: that top two, I should say, is really anyone's guests.

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Speaker 3: There are people like me who are really in on

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. There are others who I believe are hitching

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Speaker 3: their wagon to Jalen Milroe because of raw potential. Quinnyewers

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Speaker 3: is also a name. It would not surprise me if

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Speaker 3: you hear any garden variety of other quarterback listed in

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Speaker 3: that QB three slot, and it's to come from people

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Speaker 3: who have not watched a whole lot of college.

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Speaker 1: Football through and through right.

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Speaker 3: I am eagerly awaiting all of that content, not just

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Speaker 3: because my team stands to get QB three. Whoever it is, okay,

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Speaker 3: but that is something that's a preemptive Valentine, something that

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Speaker 3: I am expecting to be notable over the next couple

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Speaker 3: months that I certainly will fall in love with and

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Speaker 3: admire through and through because I just think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be weird.

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Speaker 2: I can appreciate this year's quarterback class because there's no

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Speaker 2: seemingly obvious like, oh yeah, this guy has just been

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Speaker 2: since day one, he's the guy, right, So there's no like,

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Speaker 2: clearly obvious turnkey quarterback. So I'm going to equate this

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Speaker 2: year's first round of the NFL Draft and team searching

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Speaker 2: for quarterbacks including I guess You're New York Giants to

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Speaker 2: being at a restaurant and having the great fortune to

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Speaker 2: be able to evesdrop a couple, evesdrop on a couple

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Speaker 2: breaking up. Yeah, you're just like, ooh man, he just

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Speaker 2: dropped Josh Rosen this conversation. So right, this was the

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen draft. I was like, gave us.

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Speaker 1: I was so in on Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 2: Josh Rosen, Sam Donald obviously didn't work out in his

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Speaker 2: initial stop, and who else was in that. I think

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Speaker 2: it was a Josh Allen draft, which obviously the MVP

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Speaker 2: worked out swimmingly, but those years. I think it was

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Speaker 2: the next year where the Giants took Daniel Jones in

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Speaker 2: the top ten, where you're just like, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: Giants fan, but man, I see where this is going,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just glad I get to eat my veal

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Speaker 2: pharmesan next to this couple.

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Speaker 1: Great. That was a big draft. That was Baker.

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield obviously didn't work out for the Browns, but one.

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Speaker 3: Two that year up to the Giants. Donald went three.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Lamar went thirty two. Great job, NFL Lamar, great job.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So there's like the inexplicable quarterback draft. I always appreciate

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Speaker 2: watching from Afar.

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen in that draft, Dan tenth.

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Speaker 2: Overall, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to the Cardinals, unbelievab didn't work out, didn't work out? Okay, uh,

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Speaker 3: that does it right? In Soli verbogmail dot com, let

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Speaker 3: us know who we missed. Who you're giving your Valentine

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Speaker 3: two for whatever reason could be confusing as somewhere for me,

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Speaker 3: it can just be like raw unfettered passion. Whatever you're into.

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Speaker 3: Soliverbogmail dot com. Hit us up on social media. We

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Speaker 3: would love to get your opinion. If you've got the

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Speaker 3: ability to comment either out on YouTube, Spotify, and some

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Speaker 3: of the other podcast platforms.

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Speaker 1: We would love to hear it. There is what we

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Speaker 1: read all of those comments.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who the final quarterback who is taking?

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Speaker 2: You don't obviously, who has taken in that year's draft?

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Speaker 3: The final quarterback taken in that twenty eighteen drafts? I

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Speaker 3: know because I'm looking at it right now, But I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have known if I weren't looking for it.

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Speaker 2: Is it John Wolford?

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Speaker 1: I believe it's Logan Woodside.

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Speaker 2: Logan Woodside? Was Wolford drafted?

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Speaker 1: Wolford the Wolford Wagon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I oh yeah, Logan Woodside, Toledo.

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Speaker 1: There it is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was in the in the seventh round.

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Speaker 3: There were a bunch of quarterbacks that went Danny Ettling,

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Speaker 3: our boy was drafted out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: Who else is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Those are Wolford was undrafted?

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Wolford Wagon, Yeah, Wogan Woodside.

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Speaker 1: Who else we got here.

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Speaker 2: In that year's draft? Which other quarter is Alex McGough,

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Speaker 2: Luke Fock to the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Who else we got here?

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01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: Mike White? Mike Whites made some money.

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: Rack Whites made some money. Tanner Lee Sure from Nebraska

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Speaker 3: was drafted in the sixth round that year.

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Speaker 2: And Mason Rudolph in the third round. He had a

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Speaker 2: moment with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He's still in the league, is it he? I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson thirty two, What are you okay? That's it.

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Speaker 3: On that note, Happy Valentine's Day to you as well.

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Speaker 3: If it's something that you celebrate, If your cynical and

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Speaker 3: go Singles Awareness Day like I didn't college, good on

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Speaker 3: you as well. Whatever you are into this Friday, we

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Speaker 3: support it provided it's legal. For that guy over there,

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Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for my self, Tie hilden Brand,

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Speaker 3: as always, hit follow, hit subscribe. Thank you for your

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01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: undying support for all the.

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Speaker 1: Love we felt this season. Stay solid, Peace,