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Speaker 2: Ah, greetings and welcome in another beautiful, resplendent, glorious Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you woke up, you made it. Congratulations and welcome to

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Speaker 2: another edition Fox Football Sunday. I'm Mike Carmen shot out

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Speaker 2: of a cannon this morning alongside my guy forty six

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Speaker 2: years NFL films the Matchup show You hear Them with

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd one pm Eastern on Thursday. This is part

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Speaker 2: of the network here, it's our guy, Greg co Sell

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Speaker 2: at Greg coast Cell in the Twitter verse for all

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Speaker 2: his latest and greatest Greg. Another great slate ahead of

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Speaker 2: us as we get ready for Week twelve, still trying

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Speaker 2: to get that separation in some of these divisions.

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Speaker 3: Mikey gotta be pumped up. It's another Football Sunday. There's Scott.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the schedule. There's some really big games

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Speaker 3: this weekend, but hey, it's getting to be that time

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Speaker 3: of year, you know. And then there's some other there's

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Speaker 3: intrigue in some other games that may not have a

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Speaker 3: lot to say about the standings, but a little intrigue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some dog games are better than and we've got

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Speaker 2: one certainly in Las Vegas. We'll talk about coming up

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Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes from now. We all know what

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Speaker 2: that's about. When you got an over under thrusting through

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Speaker 2: the barrier of thirty five, not expecting fireworks. But still

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Speaker 2: when we look at that Browns Raiders game, one of

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Speaker 2: the most anticipated games going all the way back to

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, and all sorts of narratives that at

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Speaker 2: least for one moment will get a little bit of

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Speaker 2: color along the way. We get Philadelphia and Dallas. More

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Speaker 2: drama in Philly, but they just keep winning. We got

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, some of the guys are riding to the rescue. Later, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, Pittsburgh and Chicago, you name it. We've got

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Speaker 2: big time games all across the board. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: all of them here in the next two hours. Please

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Honored to be with Greg and

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Speaker 2: with our team. We got Brandon and Mark making it

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Speaker 2: sound so pretty here early in the morning. But let's

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Speaker 2: hit the rewind button here to Thursday. As we do,

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Speaker 2: we get it started Buffalo and Houston twenty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to the significant significance of that in a

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Speaker 2: moment but you know, it wasn't a massive game offensively,

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Speaker 2: but Davis Mills doing just enough.

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Speaker 4: Higgins motions to the left, Mills with Woody marks to

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Speaker 4: his right in the gun, second and goal at the eight.

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Speaker 5: Here's the snap from Andrews Davis looking Davis passing to

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Speaker 1: All cut touchdown, Yostan.

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Speaker 2: They's gonna be interference and there's off defensive interference here.

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Speaker 3: Higgins with the catch.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be against the Texans?

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Speaker 3: Come on, guy, five seconds to go pick the flago.

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Speaker 2: That's interference defensive or thirty nine. I couldn't get down.

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Speaker 6: Houston Biggas with the catch and score, and the Texans

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Speaker 6: are back in front of Buffalo with five seconds to.

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Speaker 1: Go in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: They get that big touchdown late. It was funny, Greg,

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Speaker 2: because you know, as Jason Smith and I are doing

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Speaker 2: the big things was, well, the betting markets was forty

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Speaker 2: to that total, because at that point it was twenty

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Speaker 2: Mills sixteen of thirty, missed some early shots and opportunities,

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Speaker 2: just fifty three percent for the game, but two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and enough offensively, We'll get to the defensive side with

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Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans in a moment. But winners of three straight

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Speaker 2: and suddenly thrusting themselves back into that AFC South battle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the big one was the one a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago against Jacksonville, and Mills really was a

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Speaker 3: didn't turn the ball over, two long touchdown drives. Obviously

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Speaker 3: that's very important in a game like that, But it

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Speaker 3: was a game where the defense was really the biggest factor,

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Speaker 3: and their defense is really really good. So offensively, you know,

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Speaker 3: you get into that situation where if you don't turn

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Speaker 3: a perfect position to win games. Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the curiosity though, right because we watched

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Speaker 2: the early struggles with CJ. Stroud and all of the

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Speaker 2: every game seems to be the pendulum in the court

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Speaker 2: of public opinion of deciding was that just a fluke?

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Speaker 2: Is he the guy? How hurt. Is he How bad

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Speaker 2: and we see Davis Mills. Is it efficient?

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Speaker 2: Is the offensive line doing a great job oftentimes?

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Speaker 2: I saw a stat that his time for pressures is like,

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Speaker 3: And then look and keep in mind. You know, we

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Speaker 3: can talk about Davis Mills, and Davis Mills I remember

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Speaker 3: for twelve on third down. It wasn't as if this

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Speaker 3: was an explosive, dominating offensive performance. They gained only about

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Speaker 3: of teams like this. The Eagles are and we'll get

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Speaker 3: same way right now. So you know, it wasn't really

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Speaker 2: No, but but it begets the large like the conversation

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Speaker 2: with Stroud getting healthy, right, so that's swirling in the background.

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Speaker 2: I sat, certainly, I'm not raising Davis Mills to any

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Speaker 2: and winning football. But that the defense is the star, right,

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Speaker 2: It's all yeah, I mean I was easy understudy here.

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Speaker 3: There's not a quarterback controversy here, Mike. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: you know, when Stroud's healthy, he's playing.

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Speaker 2: I like chaos, so you know, I like to waters.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about that defense for a minute. Let's

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Speaker 5: Now. Sprinter Stance almost comes up with a sack, goes down.

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Speaker 3: You think he's out of the play.

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Speaker 1: We're wrong.

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Speaker 5: You'll get the effort chasing it down and eventually catches

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Speaker 2: Down one of many sacks on the night. We're talking

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Speaker 2: eight sacks, twelve hits. The Hurries now the leading scoring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously they're really good at all three levels.

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Speaker 3: Two great corners. I mean, Lassiter has been really really good.

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Speaker 3: We all know about Stingley, but Lassiter is a really

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Speaker 3: he's a really good post safety. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: yet put him up saying the Earl Thomas category, but

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Speaker 3: stylistically he's similar in the way he moves. So they're

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Speaker 3: really good at all levels. And obviously their D line

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Speaker 3: major deal. They just couldn't get the edge players blocked.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny. I went through that tape

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Speaker 3: a tendency to break down in the pocket prematurely. That's

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Speaker 3: part of his game, that's part of who he is.

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Speaker 3: But they were not really a lot of throws to

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Speaker 3: this every year, Mike and sure and it's and it

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Speaker 3: always comes down to Josh Allen. But the Bills are

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Speaker 3: not an overly talented team and they haven't really been

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Speaker 3: that way for a number of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was curious. There was a report of Brandon

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Speaker 2: Buffalo area kind of talking about personnel and they were

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Speaker 2: going after the receiving corps. Another game without Dalton Kincaid.

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Speaker 2: When you look at Shahi, he had two big plays,

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Speaker 2: one on that hook and lateral, which when those plays

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Speaker 2: show up, Greg, that would just make me smile. I

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Speaker 2: did like your Earl Thomas reference, though I usually default

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Speaker 2: to Ed Reid. We had one of my soccer games

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Speaker 2: one of our forwards, like wow, and no call. It's

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Speaker 2: like that was an Ed Reid hit. What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: And the referee just kind of looked at me and smiled.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right? Well. Ed Reid is just I mean,

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Speaker 3: he was so so great. Earl Thomas was for about

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Speaker 3: three four years as well. And I don't want people

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Speaker 3: to think I'm saying Bullock is Earl Thomas. No, but

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Speaker 3: he's a post safety who's very very good. Now that

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Speaker 3: last interception, you know, I looked at that carefully. Obviously

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Speaker 3: there was a penalty anyway on the offense, so whatever happened,

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Speaker 3: if it was good for the offense, wouldn't have mattered.

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Speaker 3: But I think Alan threw it to the wrong guy.

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Speaker 3: But still what he expected with more of there is

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Speaker 3: he expected more to cross the face of Bullock and

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Speaker 3: more changed his angle of his route after Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: delivered the football, And that is an absolute no no

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Speaker 3: for a receiver. Because it was kind of a levels

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Speaker 3: crosser concept behind a mesh and more angled up the

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Speaker 3: saying it would have been complete. Who knows what would

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Speaker 3: have happened, But no more, you can't do that. You

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Speaker 3: can't change your route after the quarterback throws the football.

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Speaker 2: For Dion Dawkins his seventh false start penalty of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which took that from.

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Speaker 2: A fourth to one to a fourth and six. Now

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Speaker 2: for all the folks up with their kids that are

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning because it's a holiday week and they're losing

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Speaker 2: their minds, the twenty three to nineteen final score, Well,

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Speaker 2: we get to go to Pixar and Monsters, Inc. Because

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Speaker 2: that was what was labeled the human contaminant in the

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Speaker 2: Monster world, like a human sock or whatever else. And

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, there was a lot of human

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Speaker 2: contaminant on Josh Allen over the course of Thursday Night,

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Speaker 2: twenty three, nineteen twenty three, nineteen. There I go full Nerd,

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Speaker 2: leaving no stone unturned in this pop culture universe here, Greg.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be interesting where the Bills go

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Speaker 3: from here just because and they'll they'll probably end up

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Speaker 3: being fine, although their next game obviously we're not going

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Speaker 3: So it's so he was a Georgia quarterback. You came

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Speaker 3: out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Trying to think back then. How about oh, oh are

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Speaker 3: we in jeopardy now? Or that's it? How about that

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Speaker 3: Eric zire maybe nicely done.

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Speaker 2: That's my guy. How about a little bit of fanfare

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Speaker 2: and we have some trumpets for something to celebrate.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to think of the years, that's

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Speaker 3: all I mean. I you know, I didn't know that

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Speaker 3: for a fact. I was just trying to think of,

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Speaker 3: you know, back back then. See see I have a

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Speaker 3: good memory mic for meetingless stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what why we get to do this as

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Speaker 2: long as we do, Greg, because it's those synapses firing

448
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Speaker 2: and making those connection. Because somewhere someone who's a big

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Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldog fan just went, hell, yeah, Eric Zire back.

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Speaker 3: He was a great college quarterback by the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no question about it. Go back to sixty seven

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Speaker 2: touchdowns against thirty seven picks in an era where you

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Speaker 2: didn't throw the ball a ton, right, a couple of

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Speaker 2: touchdowns on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Not the way you do now, not the way you

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Speaker 3: do now.

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Speaker 2: For sure, he had two thirty three hundred yard seasons

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Speaker 2: before he left Georgia.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he was a great college quarterback and never you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously made it in the league really in any meaningful way.

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Speaker 3: But but no, I remember it. I mean, I just

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Speaker 3: can't believe how long ago that was. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: thirty years ago.

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Speaker 2: But that's the scary part of it, right, that's crazy. Oh,

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Speaker 2: all the way back, Bill Bellijack as their coach and

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Speaker 2: sire as their starting quarterbacks. So given it a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a historical context, I mean, we got to

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Speaker 2: bring up Spurgeon win.

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Speaker 3: Where where's Kelly Hulk? Where's Kelly hulkme when you need him?

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Speaker 2: Nicely done? That's a great Yeah too.

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Speaker 3: I believe he didn't he won a playoff game if

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Speaker 3: I'm not missing, Yes, he did and played exceptionally well.

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Speaker 3: And I might have been against Pittsburgh if my memory

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Speaker 3: serves me correctly.

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Speaker 2: Look it back, we're going all the way back. That's

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Speaker 2: a nice one. And Pittsburg's quarterback thousand and four was.

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Speaker 3: That Pittsburgh's quarterback may have been Tommy Mannox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the year before Roethlisberger comes in. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Be safe on the roads. I saw two grizzly accidents

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Speaker 2: on the way in the grim reminder of Hey, reach

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Speaker 2: and be careful out there. As always, when we look

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Speaker 2: at this slate, Greg, there's so many great games on

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Speaker 2: there there are you know. We'll get to filling in

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Speaker 2: Dallas a little bit later, but I'd be remiss. We

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Speaker 2: don't have a final injury update on Aaron Rodgers, but

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if he didn't find his way out

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Speaker 2: there against Chicago. Chicago missing their entire linebacking corps and

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Speaker 2: members of their secondary as they get ready for this one.

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Speaker 2: The Year of Living Dangerously for Caleb Williams and for

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Speaker 2: that Bears offense. I think that's the nicest way to

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Speaker 2: do it. It also makes people go down the IMDb

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Speaker 2: to go add more films to their list. But when

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Speaker 2: we look at this one, this is a game that

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Speaker 2: I'll grab my popcorn as an interest and observer. I

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Speaker 2: really don't know how to how to feel. Like Norse games,

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Speaker 2: I can pick and say, all right, I can see

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Speaker 2: an obvious side. This one's more a all right, let's

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Speaker 2: see what we've got. But let's start with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: in that offense. Another one quick to throw, quick to

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Speaker 2: get it out, trying to avoid the hits for sure,

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Speaker 2: but minimizing that downfield passing game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough offense to watch. It's the run

536
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Speaker 3: game is very weak to week. For the most part,

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Speaker 3: it's not been very good. Occasionally you get a nice

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Speaker 3: run by Warren, but it's not really been a very

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Speaker 3: good offense, although their defense and the numbers might not

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Speaker 3: reflect it. But I think over the last couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks they've started to play better and the pass rush

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Speaker 3: is started to get amped up a little bit. That's

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Speaker 3: something to look at in this game, clearly against Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 3: who I think is incrementally improving. I thought last week

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Speaker 3: he actually played well. His two best throws were dropped,

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Speaker 3: and he had one big time throw to Burden. I

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Speaker 3: know you're a Bears guy, you're Chicago guy. He threw

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Speaker 3: a dig ball to Burden. That was a big time

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Speaker 3: throw that hit him right between the numbers and he dropped. It.

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Speaker 3: May have been his best throw of the game. He's

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Speaker 3: getting better. You know, it's funny it came up kind

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Speaker 3: of randomly. You mentioned Ben Roethlisberger. Williams is almost showing

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Speaker 3: that kind of trait in the pocket at times where

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Speaker 3: he just sheds tacklers and you know what, obviously that's

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Speaker 3: not the way you live and that's not the way

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Speaker 3: we're going to evaluate him as a quarterback. But he's

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Speaker 3: been able to do that the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: But I think he's starting to play a little better,

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Speaker 3: getting a better feel for that offense. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: a difficult offense to learn and it takes time. But

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Speaker 3: I think overall, you're seeing that he's just naturally improving.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget he played against a very difficult defense last week,

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Speaker 3: and while his completion percentage Mike wasn't high, I don't

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Speaker 3: think that's the best way to evaluate how he played

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Speaker 3: against a really difficult defense.

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Speaker 2: Now, as you point out right, it's something that you

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Speaker 2: know box score watching, as as a lot of folks do.

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Speaker 2: We certainly you know in the in the moment, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to contextualize and compartmentalize and give folks a bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: But as as you do going back through the tape, right,

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Speaker 2: here's a couple of drops or people say, well, that

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Speaker 2: guy had two interceptions, Well both of them hit the

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Speaker 2: guy in the hands and popped up into a defender. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know things like that, right and.

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Speaker 3: Right, and and that place speaks even more than that,

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Speaker 3: because that was a play where Brian Flores, as he

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Speaker 3: is really good at, changed the picture pre snap, what

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Speaker 3: Williams saw pre snap, then post snap everything changed. And

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Speaker 3: that's what Flores does as well as anybody in the league.

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Speaker 3: And Williams recognized it, stayed within rhythm and timing, and

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Speaker 3: he just drove the deep dig to Burden, who dropped

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Speaker 3: the great throw. You know, and there's little plays that

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Speaker 3: I noticed when I watch tape like, for instance, this

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Speaker 3: is probably not a play that people are thinking about,

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Speaker 3: but Loveland had a twenty four yard completion reception on

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Speaker 3: third and thirteen, and to me, that was a strong

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Speaker 3: snapshot of William's development for this reason because he took

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Speaker 3: the checkdown to Loveland in exactly the right time, rather

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Speaker 3: than waiting in the pocket to force the ball into

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Speaker 3: deeper his own coverage and then throwing the checkdown late.

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Speaker 3: Because if you throw the check down late, the defense

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Speaker 3: rallies and it becomes a five yard gain. When you

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Speaker 3: throw it on time, based on your reading of the coverage,

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Speaker 3: there's run after the catch, and Loveland's very good at that.

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Speaker 3: So he turned, you know, a five or six yard

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Speaker 3: pass into a twenty four yard play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the comparison to Roethlisberger in terms of

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Speaker 2: that physicality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We always talk about quarterbacks, and something I've tried to

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Speaker 2: preach from my mini Bully pulpit here at Fox Sports

602
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Speaker 2: Radio is, you know, let the quarterbacks what makes them special,

603
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Speaker 2: that's got to stay part of their game. And right now,

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Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams, that's one of those differentiators is the

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Speaker 2: ability to shed tackle. As we talk about it. You know,

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton beyond looking, you know, with the big hats

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Speaker 2: and everything else, and some of the hyperbole he comes

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Speaker 2: up with and everything else. But like when he was

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Speaker 2: a player, it's like, all right, if I get eight

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Speaker 2: years of him at that Cam Newton, yeah, and I've won.

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Speaker 2: For Caleb Williams, it's all a work in progress. And again,

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Speaker 2: learning all this stuff and playing from play action, under

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Speaker 2: center and all these things he's never done.

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Speaker 3: No, and also keep in mind that those kinds of

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Speaker 3: plays will probably be fewer as he continues to grow

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Speaker 3: and develop where the ball will come out. But he's

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Speaker 3: clearly just getting a little better each week. And again,

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Speaker 3: as I said, it's not about the numbers for me

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Speaker 3: when I watch Chap, it's how he's playing, you know,

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Speaker 3: because numbers are a result of so many things, and

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Speaker 3: you can't just look at it that sheet and say, oh,

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Speaker 3: guy played well. No, a guy didn't play well. You

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Speaker 3: have to watch the plays.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it right, going back and seeing exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: And as we isolated, I mean just when you talk

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Speaker 2: about drops, you know, we look at Trevor Lawrence and

627
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Speaker 2: his evaluation. He's got he's got they have thirty two drops.

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Speaker 2: That's an awful lot of drops through, you know, eleven

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Speaker 2: weeks of a season.

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Speaker 3: Right and I always like to study those.

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Speaker 2: Boosts, that completion percentage five percent right now.

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Speaker 3: But I like to you know, it's funny to say that,

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Speaker 3: just like with interceptions or sacks, I need to see

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Speaker 3: those plays, Like the two Williams drops I talked about.

635
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Speaker 3: He's stuck right between the numbers. Sometimes I'll see people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: so and so there were eight drops, and then I

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Speaker 3: watched the plays and I see that the throws warren't

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Speaker 3: really that good, and to me, they're not drops. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's true with Trevor Lawrence. I haven't

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Speaker 3: studied those thirty two plays, but I'm just saying I

641
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: always need to see those plays. You know. It's just

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00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: like interceptions. It's always easy to look at a stat

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Speaker 3: sheet and say, oh, Sam Donold two four picks, Well,

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00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: let's look at the plays, you know, and same with sacks.

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Speaker 3: You have to see the plays now.

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Speaker 2: As we go through and curiosity certainly moving forward with

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Speaker 2: the Bears, a big schedule down the stretch here, starting

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Speaker 2: with this game against Pittsburgh the Jets in Baltimore. I

649
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: don't want Obviously it's a two touchdown favorite, but Lamar

650
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Jackson just doesn't look right. And the fact that on

651
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: short yardage plays Mark Andrews one of the greatest spin

652
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: moves and runs.

653
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Speaker 3: To the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, scene in recent memory. But the fact that

655
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Speaker 2: that's where you're going short yardage, you can't run it

656
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: with Derrick Henry. That's a squad that I'm just fearful of.

657
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Where Lamar is physically at this time.

658
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Speaker 3: It's hard to know. Yeah, and again, don't forget that.

659
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Speaker 3: You know, he's not a big man. It's not like

660
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: he's Josh Allen. He's not Caleb Williams, who's not tall,

661
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: but he's thirty, you know, with the body type. Obviously

662
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: Amar is not like that. It's too small a sample

663
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Speaker 3: since he came back to make any determination as to hey,

664
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Speaker 3: he's not Lamar Jackson anymore. We need to see him

665
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: play more. The bottom line is they're winning. It's it's

666
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: a bad division. They could easily win this division. Obviously

667
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: they have the Jets today. Hey, it's an NFL game,

668
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: you never know. But still I'd be really leary of

669
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Speaker 3: making any definitive judgment about where Lamar Jackson really stands

670
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Speaker 3: right now. I think we need to see him play more.

671
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Speaker 2: A little bit of curiosity, right It's just one of

672
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: those stories swirling in the background. But again, heavy favorites

673
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Speaker 2: against Tarad Taylor. Don't call him Tyrod, as he reminded

674
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Speaker 2: us a couple of years ago. As we go further

675
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Speaker 2: down the slate, let's give a quick minute here, because

676
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: you know we're looking at time down and distance. We

677
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: got a lot of time left in the show to

678
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Speaker 2: give to the big matchups. Kirk Cousins back for Atlanta,

679
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Speaker 2: Penis Junior out, Take London out, Tyler Schuck on the

680
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Speaker 2: other side, I mean Captain Kirk here trying to extend

681
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Speaker 2: the run in a big NFC South battle.

682
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be to me. This game is part

683
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Speaker 3: of a larger situation now for the Falcons, because you know,

684
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Speaker 3: there was a time maybe three four or five weeks

685
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Speaker 3: ago or even going into the season, where they probably

686
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Speaker 3: felt they had their quarterback situation totally solved for the

687
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: next eight ten years. Obviously, they got ripped when they

688
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: drafted Pennix. They felt real good about it and we thought, hey,

689
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Speaker 3: now they got their quarterback. Well, now you're dealing with

690
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Speaker 3: a guy that's been injured. I think he's had what

691
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Speaker 3: three acls now, so you just wonder where he stands

692
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Speaker 3: because if he has reconstructive surgery, he may not even

693
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Speaker 3: be ready at the beginning of next season. So now

694
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Speaker 3: you have to wonder where they as an organization see

695
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: themselves at the quarterback position. Do they have to in

696
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Speaker 3: some ways start from scratch because now Michael Pennix, who

697
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Speaker 3: I think could develop into a good player, you know,

698
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Speaker 3: you just don't know. So to me, I'm trying. I'm

699
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Speaker 3: looking at this more from thirty thousand feet as opposed

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Speaker 3: to their matchup with the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the difficult part to really fill this in their

702
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: first round pick goes to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the.

704
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Speaker 2: Help isn't eminent. Now we talk about the quarterback class

705
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Speaker 2: and then something we'll do as we get towards the

706
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Speaker 2: end of our run and the Super Bowl and looking

707
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Speaker 2: ahead and everything else what the collegiate class is. But

708
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: currently right now, a number of guys that were expected

709
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: to be leaders have actually been benched or gotten their

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Speaker 2: coaches fired.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of hand ranking, you know, and the

712
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: other factor too that plays into some of this is

713
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Speaker 3: the nil money because some of these guys and who knows,

714
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Speaker 3: I'm not look, I have no inside information. They probably

715
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: don't even know at this point, but some guys who

716
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: clearly should play more football. And again, not to get

717
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: into a lengthy discussion now, because I haven't seen these

718
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Speaker 3: guys on tape yet other than TV, and I don't

719
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Speaker 3: make definitive evaluations until I watch guys on tape and

720
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks I usually watch seven, eight nine games. I really

721
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Speaker 3: go a little nuts, Mike when it comes to the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Greatness that you do a great Joe cell and as

723
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Speaker 2: part of the Matchup show and what You Do, you

724
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Speaker 2: and Ross Tuck are one of the best listens of

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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, thank you, But I mean someone

727
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: like Ty Simpson. I like what I see on TV.

728
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Speaker 3: But he's a one year starter, you know. And again,

729
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: he may choose to come out and maybe because of

730
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: his traits which look pretty good just on TV, he

731
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: may end up being a top five pick. But he's

732
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Speaker 3: going to play thirteen or fourteen games in college football.

733
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Speaker 3: That's going to be the extent of his starting And

734
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Speaker 3: my guess is at Alabama, where I'm sure they have

735
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: a nice little cash cow working somewhere. Someone might say,

736
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Speaker 3: we'll give the guy three million dollars to come back.

737
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: So you never know, you know how these guys are

738
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Speaker 3: going to play out, you know, same with Dante Moore.

739
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure Oregon has a few bucks somewhere, you know,

740
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: under someone's mattress that if they really want him to

741
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Speaker 3: come back, they could give him a lot of money.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a much different landscape and one. Yeah, it

743
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: certainly informs the decision making quarterbacks at the top, but

744
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: certainly the trickle down effect as we go position to

745
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Speaker 2: position at Greg go salary, Find Greg, find me over

746
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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports

747
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Speaker 2: Radio from the iHeart Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming out next.

748
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that NFC East Big Battle. Forty seven

749
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: and a half is the total k us on both sides.

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Speaker 2: A couple of guys missing curfew and refuting claims of

751
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: delinquency on the other side. Hey, it's just business as usual, Philly, Dallas. Next.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's a beautiful song to bring us into this

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Speaker 2: next fight night kind of game. It's week twelve of

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Speaker 2: the year NFL season. Welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Radio by Carmen alongside Greg Cosel from

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00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Greg, we get the Eagles

761
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys. Later on, I think Jalen Carter will

762
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: not be going on the full loop of this whole

763
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: spitting epidemic we've got going on in the National Football League.

764
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: They are a little better than field goal favorites. On

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Speaker 2: the Road of Dallas. There was a great clip from

766
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Speaker 2: an elementary school in Philadelphia where as part of their

767
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: out they put Cowboys players faces on giant bop bags.

768
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: It might but you know, well, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, hey, I'm I'm in the Philadelphia area. I know

770
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: all about that. You know, it's Cowboy Week that's been

771
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Speaker 3: going on for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of the big clips. Is like,

773
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: it's well, but if it's getting them to punch out

774
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: some aggressions and some of their energy so they can

775
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: go back and do some quality math learning, then we've

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Speaker 2: all won.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny. This is a game where,

778
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: of course everybody's been talking about the Eagles offense, But

779
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: let me flip the script for a minute here, because

780
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm actually a little more fascinated from an X and

781
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Speaker 3: O perspective with the other side of the ball. For

782
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Speaker 3: this reason, Number one, the Cowboys do have a very

783
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Speaker 3: good offense, and I think much of this will come

784
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: down to their offensive line. But still they have George

785
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: Pickens and Cdee Lamb, and Pickens lines up in what

786
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: we call the boundary X, meaning he he lines up

787
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: as the single receiver to the short side of the field.

788
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: He's done that more than any wide receiver in the

789
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Speaker 3: National Football League this year in their formations where he's

790
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Speaker 3: lined up as the single receiver to the short side

791
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Speaker 3: of the field. The boundary side now the boundary corner

792
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Speaker 3: for the Eagles is Quinyon Mitchell. That to me is

793
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Speaker 3: one of the most intriguing one on one matchups of

794
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: this weekend because even though the Eagles are not a

795
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: pure man to man coverage team, they very often, even

796
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: in their zone concepts, allow Mitchell to essentially play zero

797
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: man with no help even when they're too deep coverage.

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Speaker 3: You know, two safeties, the safety to that side, the

799
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Speaker 3: boundary safety who is almost always read blanket ship. He's

800
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Speaker 3: not helping at all. He's focused inside. So you're getting

801
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: Mitchell playing in a sense pure man coverage. And I

802
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: think the Mitchell Pickens matchup is a fascinating one to

803
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: watch this weekend.

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Speaker 2: One of those then to watch working against the rest

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Speaker 2: of that secondary. As you say, Greg, when we look

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Speaker 2: at Philadelphia giving up just twenty point one points, Yeah,

807
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: game overall, that's good enough. I think that's eighth. If

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: my math and my ability to count while looking at

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Speaker 2: a computer screen works. Sometimes they don't give me the.

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00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: Right Well, they do have calculators and computers these days,

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Speaker 3: so you can figure that out.

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's more just it doesn't give me the one

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Speaker 2: through thirty two column. I mean, just bad gooey interface

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00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: on the page that I currently have loaded. But all

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Speaker 2: of that to say, I mean they're stingy, and it's

816
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: a much different look than when we saw the first

817
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: and again with that defensive line.

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Speaker 3: And their defense is only allowing I think a fifty

819
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: five to fifty six percent completion percentage against them, which

820
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Speaker 3: I think is at the top of the league. And

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Speaker 3: Nikobe Dean. He's since he's been back, he's been a

822
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Speaker 3: dominant force at linebacker. He's essentially taken over the starting

823
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Speaker 3: spot which was his obviously from the rookie jahat Campbell.

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Speaker 3: There's multiple reasons for that, but Dean is a very

825
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Speaker 3: good blitcher. We've seen that this is a really, really

826
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Speaker 3: good defense. They're playing at a really high level right now.

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Speaker 2: Last time the Cowboys lost at home against an NFC

828
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Speaker 2: East team with a healthy Dak Prescotte teen November nineteenth

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Speaker 2: against the Eagles. That's eighteen straight wins twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: How crazy is that? There's one of that is nuts,

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Speaker 2: little factoids and nuggets that well, I don't sleep Greg

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Speaker 2: In case you didn't catch.

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Speaker 3: That, was there Exire in the stands for that one?

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Speaker 1: He there?

836
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Speaker 2: He skit twenty two years later and there he is.

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Speaker 2: Now that would be funny. Hey, there's Sire, remember him there.

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Speaker 2: That's the answer to the trivia question. You didn't know

839
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Speaker 2: you need it all.

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Speaker 3: Weekly right right right as we rolled through.

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00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: But Lane Johnson not there and still you know the

842
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: AJ Brown comments and it's like, well, I guess Saquan

843
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: isn't the same either like they yeah, has fun bulletin

844
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Speaker 2: board material.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the Cowboys defense, while it hasn't

846
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: been good overall, it's better. They have better players. The

847
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: interior of their d line is now pretty good with

848
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: an excellent rotation with Quinn Williams Clark a Diggy Zua.

849
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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good trio right there. So they're getting

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00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. The numbers may not reflect it just yet,

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00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 3: and I'm certainly not saying they're real good and could

852
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: but they are getting better.

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Speaker 2: Certainly a step up in class from the Raiders. We'll

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Speaker 2: see that one later on today. He's Greg got Mike

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Speaker 2: coming up next. Indian case Ah greedies, welcome in hour

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Speaker 2: two of the program, having a blast with you as

857
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: we get you set week twelve in your National Football

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Speaker 2: League Season one game in the books. Again, I gave

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00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: you all those Disney parents, all right and Disney adults, uh,

860
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: the fun of the twenty three to nineteen with that

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Speaker 2: Houston Buffalo game that's in the books. We've got the Chargers, Broncos, Dolphins,

862
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Speaker 2: and Commanders all celebrating a bye, all hoping for many

863
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Speaker 2: happy returns. Hyperbaric chambers quick healing products whatever they can

864
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Speaker 2: find to get ready for the stretch run, particularly the

865
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Speaker 2: Chargers and that offensive line trying to get themselves right

866
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: to keep Justin Herbert upright and pacing towards a playoff

867
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Speaker 2: berth in this back half of the season. I'm Mike

868
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Speaker 2: Garment alongside me my guy, Greg co self six years

869
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: NFL films the NFL Matchup Show. You can check out

870
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Speaker 2: on Twitter a bunch of the clips for what Greg

871
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: does during the week. Hear him every week Thursdays, one

872
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: pm Eastern with Colin Coward. Colin dubs at the best

873
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes that he gets each week. I get him

874
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Speaker 2: for two hours.

875
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Speaker 3: Buddy, let's go, let's talk some more ball. We got

876
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: another hour to go.

877
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he got a lot to cover over this

878
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: next hour, so let's get after it. We got Kansas

879
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: City in Indianapolis, one of the games of the day.

880
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: Kansas City like a boxer reeling five losses by a

881
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: total of twenty two points and then going through you

882
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: know the numbers and again take them all with a

883
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: grain of salt depending on who's doing the apocus work

884
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Greg in terms of accuracy, down, distance, pressures, whatever. But

885
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: by one account, this is Pro Football Reference. You got

886
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes with the fourth most pressures. We've obviously seen

887
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: him use the escape route with his legs a bunch

888
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: this year, but trying to get things on track a

889
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: very weird, difficult watch at times. I mean, in great drama,

890
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: better than anything I've seen in a movie theater in

891
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: a while, that game against Denver.

892
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and pressure is another thing, you know, we talked about,

893
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, in the last hour, things that I need

894
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: to see myself when I watch tape. And pressure is

895
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: another one of those things. You know, I've learned from

896
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: quarterback guys smarter than I am what pressure is and

897
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: isn't at the NFL level, So I always leave that

898
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: stat I take that with a grain of salt. But

899
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. This is a team that offensively

900
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: the last couple of years has not really scored a

901
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 3: ton of points, you know, by NFL standards, and their

902
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: defense the last couple of years has been phenomenal. This year,

903
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: the defense has not been quite as good. Third down

904
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: hasn't been quite as good. So I think some of

905
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: the concerns with the offense are a little more magnified.

906
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: You know, you said it yourself, Mahomes did not look

907
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: comfortable versus the Broncos. There were too many dropbacks where

908
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: he seemed uncertain and hesitant in the pocket. And when

909
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: that happens and the special outside of structure plays don't happen.

910
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: We spoke about this with Josh Allen earlier. Then the

911
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: lack of timing and rhythm in the passing game becomes

912
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: more pronounced, and I think you see that a lot

913
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: with their offense. You know, when he can't make those

914
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: special plays which were so used to seeing because he's

915
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: done it for such a long period of time and

916
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: won Super Bowls doing it, we just expect that those

917
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: plays might happen every single week. So it's kind of

918
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: an interesting offense right now. There's not a lot of structure,

919
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of rhythm to it. Now. Having

920
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: said that, can Mahomes be special on any play any week?

921
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: Of course he can well.

922
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. Right We're looking at a little

923
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: bit of a different look for this Indianapolis defense, bringing

924
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: in Sauce Gardner, making some changes. Lou Atiumo, a guy

925
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: who was well, let's call it what it was, he

926
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: was scapegoated out of Cincinnati, didn't exactly give him great

927
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: personal and personnel to work with last year here scheming

928
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: it up, and they present a huge test coming out

929
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: of a bye week Tailor. We've talked and Nauseam about

930
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: his heroics in the first half of the season. Already

931
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: fifteen rushing touchdowns and just brilliance week to week. And

932
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones, folks still waiting for the other shoe

933
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: to drop, not the explosive numbers the last couple of

934
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Speaker 2: weeks ahead of the bye, but they're still sitting atop

935
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Speaker 2: the division and moving forward with a pretty good arsenal

936
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Speaker 2: of receivers.

937
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: Jones still has the most first down dropbacks and most

938
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Speaker 3: first down passing yards of any quarterback in the league,

939
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: which might surprise some people given that you know it's

940
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor is probably seen as the foundation of the offense.

941
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: Just going back to their defense, you mentioned lew and Rum.

942
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: I think this week from what I read, aren't they

943
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: getting Shavarius wardback?

944
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

945
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: Yes, so, I mean he'll play corner opposite Garter. That's

946
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: not a bad corner combination, by the way, and I

947
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: love their safety combination. Nick Cross has really come on

948
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 3: as a good player. Cam Binam's a really solid player.

949
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: Now obviously there's no Buckner DeForrest Buckner who's a really

950
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: good player. So that side of the ball is going

951
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: to be really really interesting to me in this game because,

952
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: as we said, the Chiefs have not really been an

953
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: explosive offense. Now, well, I found fascinating about watching the

954
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: Chiefs last week against Denver, and you may remember this

955
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 3: their first couple of series. They really tried to push

956
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: it down the field. He threw two deep balls to Worthy.

957
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: I think he threw another deep ball as well. I

958
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 3: forget who it was. It was to Thornton and actually

959
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: Mahomes over threw Thornton and Worthy. The Worthy one on

960
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: the first possession would have been a touchdown for sixty

961
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Speaker 3: one yards. So you know he's missed a few of

962
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: those throws, and you know, when you're not scoring a lot,

963
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: those plays become magnified.

964
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that pressure in the always on the play by play,

965
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Speaker 2: Greg my favorite. He'd like to have that one back.

966
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: It's yes, of course, yeah, his for the sixty one

967
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Speaker 2: yard touchdown. If he'd had two degree higher arc, it

968
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: might have come down. Probably. No, I mean, what are

969
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: you gonna do? That is the pace and play I mean,

970
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: we look at Mahomes eight yards intended air yards per

971
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: pass attempt, curious, trying to get that deep threat going,

972
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: maybe to open things up for the old, steady, reliable

973
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: Kelsey over the middle, and a lot of talk about

974
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: him and his future and all of that. Plenty of

975
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: football to be played, meaningful game, huge game for them

976
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: today as they try to see ut because last week,

977
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we had all the stats, the data,

978
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: and a reminder that history is sometimes just that history,

979
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: and these games are in the balance of three to

980
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: six points most weeks.

981
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Speaker 3: Now. Just getting back to the point though, the Chiefs

982
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: have really not shown and it's very surprising given Andy Reid,

983
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: who obviously is one of the best and has done

984
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: it for a long time, Mike, but they've not really

985
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: shown any kind of consistent, structured intermediate passing game all season.

986
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: You can go back to even a year or so ago.

987
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is closer to the bottom in the league,

988
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: bottom of the league, and throws twelve to twenty two

989
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: yards in the air from the line of scrimmage. They

990
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: don't really work the intermediate pass game very much, and

991
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: that always surprises me when I see talented quarterbacks, and

992
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: obviously we know homes is pretty damn talent when you

993
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: don't see that in an offense very much.

994
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: One of the other storylines flowing from that game. Early

995
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: today we get the new England Patriots in their eight

996
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: game winning streak. Yeah, when we talk about Drake May

997
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: and what he's been able to do with Andre Stevenson

998
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: expected back to pair with Anderson, fantasy owners or wringing

999
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: their hands already wondering how that workload split goes. But

1000
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: for Cincinnati, we don't get Joe Burrow this week. I

1001
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: was all excited wishing and hoping. I mean, y already

1002
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: are without Jamar Chase because he was a dope and

1003
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: spit on a guy. Yeah, yeah, well I gotta call

1004
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: what it is.

1005
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: And when we saw that Burrow took first team reps

1006
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: on Wednesday and Thursday, I think that, you know, I

1007
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: was excited too. I think the fielding was, Hey, this

1008
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: guy's playing this week, but obviously they want to wait

1009
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: another week. I think they play Thursday on Thanksgiving this

1010
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: coming week, so my guess is he'll play then. But

1011
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: it's Flaco again. But you know, again, just to flip

1012
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: the script at all, what's never talked about because of

1013
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: Drake May, and deservedly so, Drake May should be spoken about.

1014
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: But that defense in New England is you know, they

1015
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: may not have the household names you think of when

1016
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: you think, oh, who's on the Patriots defense, but they

1017
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: play really well together. They're really good upfront with stunts

1018
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: and passing situations. They do have a really good corner

1019
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: in Gonzalez, and they've gotten really good play. Something Mike

1020
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: Rabel always does is he always gets guys free agent

1021
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: type guys, guys like that who you never heard of.

1022
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: Like I had to look up Elijah Ponder and I

1023
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: found out he's a free agent rookie from cal Poly

1024
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: San Louis Obispo, you know, and he's just a really

1025
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: nice player. And that's what Rabel does with a lot

1026
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: of these guys. Spallane's a really good player. The rookie

1027
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: Woodson its safety is a good player. They're a fun

1028
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 3: defense to watch well.

1029
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: And I love the big guys up front. Eventually, as

1030
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: I move into a new facility in a bigger space,

1031
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: eventually my wall of mean for all those defensive tackles

1032
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: that I want to celebrate. Everybody else can have the

1033
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: Glambour boys. I'm built like a fire plug Greg for

1034
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: seven and wide, and.

1035
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Speaker 3: I know Milton Williams is out for a couple more weeks,

1036
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: but he's played really really well for them. But Barmore

1037
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: is a good player. They just they have a bunch

1038
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: of guys that clearly, you know, it almost goes back

1039
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: to the Belichick system, because that's where Rabel comes from,

1040
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: of just do your job, and these guys do their job,

1041
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: they do it well.

1042
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: Now, one of the teams we were watching last week

1043
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: nearly pulled off a win despite four interceptions from Sam

1044
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: Donald and obviously the narrative all week of same old

1045
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: Sam twenty giveaways thus far for Seattle, that margin of

1046
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: victory and margin of error certainly there we look at

1047
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: they got the Titans, so decided favorites here. But Sam Donald,

1048
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: when you went back and watched that tape, anything stand

1049
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: down differently from several weeks back.

1050
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 3: You know, obviously through the four picks, I think that

1051
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of them were bad, you know,

1052
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: And I watched picks. The way I go about watching

1053
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: an interception is I try to see it from the

1054
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks perspective. Why did he turn that loose, and I

1055
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: think in Darnold's case, the last one was terrible. That

1056
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: was the one by Williams. That was terrible where he

1057
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: just ran up in the pocket and threw you know

1058
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: that he should never have done. But the other ones, actually,

1059
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: the first one he drifted to his left and he

1060
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: was very late on our route. I don't think that

1061
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: he had any recognition of Kitchens being there, the robber

1062
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: in that coverage, and I think he got caught there.

1063
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: But the other two, and I'm not going to sit

1064
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: here and break them down because people can't see it,

1065
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: But the other two I could totally understand why he

1066
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: made the throws. And they were resulted in interceptions, and

1067
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: they looked bad. So as soon as they look bad

1068
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: when you're watching it on TV show and how it goes,

1069
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: they look bad. So therefore it's a stupid throw. What

1070
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: the hell is he doing? But like I said, I

1071
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: try to understand what was in his mind why he

1072
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: turned it loose. And those middle two interceptions, the one

1073
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: by Durant on the sideline and the one by Kitchens

1074
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, I just tried to,

1075
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: you know, get a feel for why he did it.

1076
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: And I can understand why he made those throws.

1077
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: So we'll watch them later on today. Still, I mean,

1078
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: you talk about the strength of a roster and what

1079
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: they've got cooking.

1080
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: Their defense is good, by the way, their defense is

1081
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 3: really good.

1082
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: Guys, we've watched the Rams roll up on everybody, and

1083
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: that one they still needed that big interception late to

1084
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: close it out. Yeah, so so marg margin of margin

1085
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: of error, margin of victory. As we know in the NFL,

1086
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: it's waffer thin. There you go. There's a many Python reference.

1087
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. But it's true. It's absolutely true.

1088
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: And that's why you know. Look, you know me well

1089
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: enough now to know that I don't make these bold

1090
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: pronouncements about teams because you just never know. In the NFL.

1091
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the scheme, there's so much going on play to play,

1092
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: all right, we still have some heavyweight games to go.

1093
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: Let's get one last one here that on the surface

1094
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: doesn't doesn't play out that way, but certainly some concerns.

1095
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: I think if you're looking at the Lions overall, you've

1096
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: got the Giants coming in ten point favorites. No Jackson darts,

1097
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: it'll be Jameis Winston again. And for the history of

1098
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell a graphic you'll see a million times today

1099
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: coming off of losses thirteen to zero against the spread

1100
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: the last three years, they don't. That goes all the

1101
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: way back to November of twenty twenty two. But Sam

1102
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: Laporta being out for the year, yeah, back injury really

1103
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: changes the complexion of this offense as they move forward.

1104
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: I would expect a lot of the run game today,

1105
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: both Gibbs and Montgomery to feast. But for Jared Goff,

1106
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: what are you seeing through eleven weeks?

1107
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jared got for the most part, has

1108
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: played well. Obviously, when they played Philly and Philly that

1109
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: was a tough one. That's a really difficult defense to

1110
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: play against, and in Philly it's even harder. But he's

1111
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: played well for the most part this season. It'll be

1112
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: interesting to see with Laporta out, if they cut back

1113
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: on their use of twelve personnel playing with two tight ends.

1114
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: They do have Ross Dwelly who's been in the league,

1115
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: but it's certainly not the same as having Laporta and Right,

1116
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: then having Right and Dwelly, So we'll see if they

1117
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: end up playing a lot more out of eleven personnel.

1118
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: They're a big play action pass team with goff under center.

1119
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 3: That's the Ben Johnson approach that's been maintained. In fact,

1120
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: when Campbell took over the play calling and they won

1121
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: the game, was it against Washington. I think the first

1122
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: game they were heavy, heavy play action under center relative

1123
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: to what they'd done under Johnny Morton. So you know,

1124
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 3: I would assume that something we'll see more of. But

1125
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 3: I would think they'd want to get their run game

1126
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: back on track a little bit, you know, with Gibbs

1127
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: in Montgomery.

1128
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: Big stretch run to come, a lot of indoor games

1129
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: to go except for that Week eighteen against Chicago, so

1130
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: opportunity Defeast to just close the loop. Cincinnati plays Baltimore

1131
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: as part of your Thanksgiving Day triple header, so a

1132
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: little divisional action there. So I would suspect that, barring

1133
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: a huge setback, we'll get our Joe Burrow on Thursday

1134
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: against Lamar Jackson and company. So as we roll forward,

1135
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: we still got Tampa and the Rams and a couple

1136
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: of other games that we need to cycle through some

1137
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: bigger picture talking for the National Football League. But coming

1138
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: up next, we'll look to Monday night at an upstart

1139
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: squad trying to raise some caine in the NFC South,

1140
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,000
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1150
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1151
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Speaker 2: brock Purty. I had to say it like Paul Hayman

1152
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: of the WWE, because that's how he announced him for

1153
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,400
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1154
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00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio. It's Fox Football Sunday.

1160
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: We'll get an update from Isai Glowing grown in just

1161
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes of the early ins and out,

1162
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: so as you start setting up your fantasy lineups for

1163
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: the week, appreciate you being with us here as you

1164
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: get into your holiday holiday holiday week and travels. Saw

1165
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: some grizzliness on the freeways today, so let's be careful

1166
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: out there, be smart, be a good teammate out there

1167
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 2: and on the roadways and get to whur you're going

1168
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: safely so you can watch some great football and hell,

1169
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: even those dog games like we talked about the Browns

1170
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 2: and Raiders with some great interests. As we go forward,

1171
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm my garbing alongside Greg Gosell. We're having a blast

1172
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: with you. A couple of big games still to go

1173
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: on the slate as we get ready for everything Week twelve.

1174
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: Reminder again the Chargers, Broncos, Dolphins, and Commanders are off

1175
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: this week. The year of living dangerously for Denver will

1176
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: be put on pause for a week. The resurgence of

1177
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: that Miami squad left for dead just several weeks ago.

1178
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel getting bear hugged by former players and people

1179
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: going wait, maybe they do like him in the locker room.

1180
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Greg, Well, you gotta know, Mike McDaniel. I know it.

1181
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: I've been around him. He's a very good guy. He's

1182
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: very different kind of guy, which I think people know

1183
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: just from seeing his press conferences. But he's incredibly intelligent

1184
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: when it comes to offensive football. And you know, we've

1185
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: talked about Miami. They don't play this week. They can

1186
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: only play a certain kind of way because of the quarterback,

1187
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: and when that works and the run game works, that

1188
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: is a difficult offense to play. I guarantee no one

1189
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: wants to play against that offense because they also have

1190
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: two guys with tremendous speed in eight chain, because you

1191
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: could easily make the argument that each Chane and Gibbs

1192
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: are the two fastest backs in the league. And then

1193
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: you got Waddle. So you know it's it's it presents

1194
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: a problem. Now there are some weeks it looks bad

1195
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: and we're not going to get into that now because

1196
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: they don't play sure, but when it looks good, it's

1197
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: a tough offense to defend.

1198
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: Just giving it it's thirty seconds. Because coming out of

1199
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: their bye week, they've got New Orleans, the Jets, the Steelers,

1200
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: and the Bengals. Wow, you'll still the create some chaos here.

1201
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: On the back end of the schedule.

1202
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: Again, what is their record now?

1203
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: They are four and seven, you.

1204
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: Know, and again there's so much that's going to go

1205
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: on with the playoffs. You know, you can't. I mean

1206
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: obviously were at the stage where now everybody says, well,

1207
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: they'd be in the playoffs if it starts today or

1208
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: they're out of them. But you know, there's so much

1209
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: there's so much more football to go, obviously, that's.

1210
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: The beauty of it. Six more weeks up for them,

1211
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: seven overall, and then we get into our playoffs and

1212
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: our run towards Santa Clara, all fun stuff. Santa Clara

1213
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: home of the San Francisco forty nine ers. So that's

1214
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: where we had next It's Monday night football. And last week, yeah,

1215
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: we had the happy returns of one Brock party shotgun

1216
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: snap five man rush for Party, steps up into the pocket,

1217
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: throws a deep ball downfield, Kettle makes the catch over

1218
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: the shoulder near pylon into the end zone, touchdown for

1219
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: about fIF cam call. There you go, a little juice

1220
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: to the call. As we look at the forty nine

1221
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: ers last week resounding win over Arizona forty one twenty

1222
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: two in Brock parties return two hundred passing yards, more

1223
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: effectiveness as a runner and receiver for Christian McCaffrey as

1224
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: we've expected, but the big explosive there to kindle a

1225
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: great ball down the sideline.

1226
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was one of my favorite plays because

1227
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: that was you heard the announce to say a can call.

1228
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: That means that they checked and you could see him

1229
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: check to based on what he saw. And what he

1230
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: saw was he saw a single high safety coverage. So

1231
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: what he did is he spread the formation in what

1232
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: we call a two by two set with two receivers

1233
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: on each side, obviously, and McCaffrey was offset to the

1234
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: same side as Kittle, and then they ran what we

1235
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: call mirrored routes. They ran the same routes on each side,

1236
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: and what they ran on each side was a hitch

1237
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: on the outside and a fade on the inside. And

1238
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: actually McCaffrey was not on the same side as Kittle,

1239
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: but that's irrelevant here. And he ran one of the

1240
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: fades and Kittle ran the other, and it was just

1241
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: it was beautiful. It's one of the reasons I love

1242
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: watching Tate Mike, you know, because you see stuff like that.

1243
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: I called my guys in from the matchup show and say, hey,

1244
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: take a look at this, and it said, you know

1245
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: those are the plays I love. You know, you see

1246
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: it all kind of happened right in front of you,

1247
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: and Purdy just orchestrated that beautifully.

1248
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: One of my fas throws of the week, no question

1249
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: about it. Now they got a date against yeah Carolina Panthers.

1250
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: The I called them the plucky Carolina Panthers, sitting at

1251
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: six and five big with a heroic effort from Bryce

1252
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: Young a week ago.

1253
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: Who would have thought that, Mike, that they're six and five?

1254
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: Would you? Was that on your bingo card to start

1255
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: the season? No?

1256
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: Five and two over their last seven. It was one

1257
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: of those you bring in McMillan, I like Chewba Hubbard,

1258
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: but obviously you've gotten some great returns from Rico Dowdell, Yeah,

1259
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: who's been just magnificent. And Ted McMillan, if he wasn't

1260
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: a Carolina Panther would be getting a lot more attention.

1261
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: Without question. And you know it's funny. I obviously did

1262
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: his tape in great detail when he came out this year,

1263
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: and while I'm not gonna put him into justin Jefferson category,

1264
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: you know, because Jefferson is just one of those special guys.

1265
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: I fell after I watched his college tape that he

1266
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 3: was not just a big position receiver because a lot

1267
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: of people immediately made the comparison with Drake London. And

1268
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: Drake London is a very nice player. But to me,

1269
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: on the spectrum of movement for taller receivers that have

1270
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: length and longer legs, I thought McMillan was closer on

1271
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: the spectrum to a Jefferson than a London. And like

1272
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: I said, he's not Jefferson. So I don't want people

1273
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: hearing this to think, oh, he's things. He's Jefferson, but

1274
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: he's I really liked him, and I think you're seeing that.

1275
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: I agree with you. But one of the things that

1276
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: they do a lot of Bryce Young has had the

1277
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: most dropbacks this year in empty sets, and that can

1278
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: be good and bad. One reason you do it is

1279
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: because the ball has to come out, and Young has

1280
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 3: to get the ball out. He's not a sit in

1281
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: the pocket guy. He can't sit on his back foot

1282
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: and drive the football as the bodies get closer to

1283
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: him because of his size. So the key is you

1284
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: got to get it out with the other factor, although

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: it will not be a factor against the Niners, is

1286
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: teams that do like to blitz. You can always get

1287
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: a free runner when there's only five pass protectors, but

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: the Niners are not necessarily that kind of defense. I'm

1289
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: really curious to see how Robert Solid goes about defending Young.

1290
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: My guess is, I feel pretty confident saying that Young's

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01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: probably not gonna throw for four forty eight again this week.

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Speaker 2: That is probably a nice Big Bowl proclamation. We should

1293
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: put that up as a hot take, say six point

1294
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: four intended air yards per throw. Again, we take it

1295
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: all with a grain of salt, but that's what we're

1296
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: looking at here to try to contextualize it as we

1297
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: go through to your point, get rid of the ball

1298
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 2: quick and early fifty four catches nearly seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty yards for McMillan. I think, you know, where he

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: went to college might have played a factor a little

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01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: bit in terms of the hype machine as well. You know,

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Speaker 2: not a lot of Arizona games. No, you're finding their

1303
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: way into prime time for folks.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny he's playing against Last week,

1305
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: he played against Atlanta, and Atlanta is high percent man coverage,

1306
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: high percent pressure, and they blitzed a lot last week

1307
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: against Young and they sacked him five times when they blitz.

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01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. You know, when you play

1309
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: empty you can there's sacks that come from that. The

1310
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: Niners are not normally like that. Now, every game is different.

1311
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: You never know, you know. That's why I hate to say, hey,

1312
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: here's what we're going to see from the Niners for sure,

1313
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: because we don't know that, you know, but normally they're

1314
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: not a high percentage blitz defense.

1315
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: But recognizing the potential opportunity here against that front and

1316
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: the way young ass to operate, like right now, you're

1317
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: trying to stack wins because you were in a crowded division.

1318
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: So by any means necessary for Robert Sala and company

1319
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: here in a big home date that's the Monday night

1320
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: football game, sitting near to fifty the over under, expecting

1321
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: some fireworks there, but Kittle springing out and getting out

1322
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: in the past pass routes even more frequently, Greg a

1323
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: huge thing for this forty nine Ers offense. The return

1324
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: of Ricky Piersoll hasn't been deployed fully. We don't need

1325
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: to go down the whole Brandon Ayuk highway just spice

1326
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: to say he ain't coming back. So now you're right

1327
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: right looking at building for here for your stretch run.

1328
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: The larger point about their past game is they don't

1329
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: structure their pass game around we have to get the

1330
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: ball to this guy. So that's why I'm sure for

1331
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: fantasy there's a lot of people that, oh, how come

1332
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: they don't do this with George Kittle every week? He

1333
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: caught two touchdowns last week, But they don't think like that,

1334
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: you know. And that play that we heard the radio

1335
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: call on that I spoke about was actually a check

1336
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, So maybe Kittle wasn't even

1337
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: the primary when the first for the initial play was called, right,

1338
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: So they don't think like that. That's not the way

1339
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan puts together his offense. He doesn't think in

1340
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: terms of, hey, you know what, Hey, the first seven

1341
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: passes Brock throws this week for them have to go

1342
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: to rookie Piersoll's. Kyle doesn't think like that at all.

1343
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: So they're a hard you know, if you're a fantasy guy,

1344
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: I would imagine that's a hard thing to deal with

1345
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 3: with the receivers.

1346
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: This PSA for all you Juwan Jennings owners out there,

1347
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: just so you know the flow of an offense, right

1348
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: and a distribution, all right, because we're talking about it,

1349
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: and we'll get into Minnesota green Bay here after Isaac's update.

1350
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: But one of those things with the Green Bay offense

1351
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: curious in terms of that distribution. So we'll get into that.

1352
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: We'll get into the ongoing handwringing over JJ McCarthy in

1353
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: a moment. But first to the aforementioned Isaac loewen Kron

1354
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: coming off of a bunch of soccer games yesterday that

1355
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: I know he was a student observer of and he's

1356
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 2: enjoying a Chargers by Week with a d Isaac Lowan crown.

1357
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy?

1358
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 5: No sacks, no quarterback hits for.

1359
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: Another seven days?

1360
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: Ah?

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 5: Yes, while we started with another NFL quarterback as NFL

1362
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 5: Media reports that Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Aaron brad is a

1363
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: true game time decision for today's game at Chicago because

1364
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 5: of a broken left wrist, while Buccaneers receiver Chris Godwin

1365
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: is expected to return the night against the Rams. He's

1366
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: missed the last five games of the hairline fracture in

1367
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 5: his leg in college football on Saturday night, hit what

1368
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 5: at sixteenth ranc Georgia Tech forty two to twenty eight,

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 5: Wisconsin knocked off Number twenty one, Illinois twenty seven to ten,

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01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 5: Number twenty Tennessee victorious, and Florida thirty one to eleven,

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 5: and the Volunteers first win in the Swamp in twenty

1372
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 5: two years. Finally, guys in the NBA on Saturday night,

1373
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 5: the Memphis Grizzlies won a Dallas one two to ninety six.

1374
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 5: But after the game, Dallas's Clay Thompson got into it

1375
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 5: with Memphis John Morant, and then after that Clay Thompson

1376
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 5: held a postgame news conference about the incident that is

1377
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 5: not to be missed.

1378
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: Listen, he's a funny guy.

1379
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 9: He has a lot to say all the time, especially

1380
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 9: for a guy who rarely takes accountability.

1381
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: But no, that's for another day. What did Job say

1382
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: on this occasion.

1383
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 9: Nothing of intelligent depth, just running his mouth. He's been

1384
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 9: running his mouth for a long time. It's funny to

1385
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 9: run your mouth when you're on the bench. It's kind

1386
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 9: of the story of his career so far. Just leaving

1387
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 9: us one more. You know, we all want to see

1388
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 9: him out there and do his best. But he's just

1389
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 9: been doing a lot of other stuff. Get a play

1390
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 9: of that, and we need that in the NBA. We

1391
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 9: need our best players will be out there and when

1392
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 9: you're a star, come from a great responsibility.

1393
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: I hate to see I go to waste.

1394
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 5: Clay Thompson and John Morants the NBA's newest rivalry of words,

1395
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 5: and I'm here for it.

1396
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, coming up Saturday Survivor Series live

1397
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: from Petco Park in San Diego, pt Go Park. It

1398
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: is per Oh oh really okay, So about down a card? Yeah,

1399
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: let's add them to the card. All right, here we go.

1400
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: There you go, big nerd out moment for me at

1401
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 2: Isaac Glow and crowd where you find it was? That

1402
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: was fiery Klay Thompson. If you'd given me a stack

1403
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: of twenty dollars bills in front of me to pick

1404
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: out who was giving me the quote, can't say I

1405
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: would have picked out Clay's voice. I haven't heard from

1406
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: him aton, so that's good. Usually Draymond did all the

1407
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: talking all those years in Golden Stage. But extra fireworks

1408
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: for the NBA season, John Morant shelved as are many

1409
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: stars right now at Isaac Lowing Crown again where you

1410
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: check him out the play by play for Angel City.

1411
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: The season just completed. Some of the great calls that

1412
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: he had a passion, he's got and certainly his hands

1413
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: turning into a claw with the way he's got to

1414
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: count pressures and sacks and everything going on with Justin

1415
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: Herbert and the Chargers.

1416
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: I tell you, you know, you know what was interesting though,

1417
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 3: that was actually a pretty measured statement by Klay Thompson.

1418
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 3: I normally don't put a lot of stock in what

1419
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 3: guys say, you know, press conferences, but that was pretty measured.

1420
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: You know. It was obviously it's people are going to

1421
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: look at it as a rip, but it was kind

1422
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: of thoughtful. Yeah, said he's a great player and we

1423
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: want him on the field. We want the best of

1424
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: this kid. But he basically said that we want the

1425
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 3: best of this kid, but he needs to grow up.

1426
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 3: That's basically what he said.

1427
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: It's it elder statesman trying to bring the guy along. Yeah,

1428
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 2: And that's been the story of John Moran since he

1429
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: entered the league in twenty nineteen. At all the antics,

1430
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: the bad decision when he's on the court, he's a

1431
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: highlight worthy guy and one of the stars that they

1432
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: can promote. Just needs to get back on the court

1433
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: and in a game that you don't play. Yeah, Memphis

1434
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: got the w You just shut up and figure out

1435
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: to the recovery to get back on. If you missed

1436
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: any of today's show, you want to catch the podcast,

1437
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast and

1438
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,760
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1439
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,599
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1440
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,160
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1441
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

1442
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: find today's show. The full show posted right after we

1443
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: get off of the air. Now we got a little

1444
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: bit of love the Jacksonville Jaguars Arizona Cardinals before we

1445
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: get to those big Grand Last Standing games. Greg Jacoby

1446
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 2: Brissett's been pretty fantastic the five games that he's played

1447
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: thus far. Harrison Junior out again, de Mercado out, but

1448
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: looking at Michael Wilson twenty nine targets over the last

1449
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: three weeks, mention Jacksonville still know Thomas Junior for them.

1450
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: It looks like Strange is going to be activated from

1451
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: IR we'll see how many routes and what he can

1452
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: get back into the mix. But the run game last

1453
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: week against the Chargers, what they were able to do

1454
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: playing bully ball out of some pretty cool sets.

1455
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it's well, it's funny you talk

1456
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 3: about Jacobe Brissett. He had a few dropbacks last week,

1457
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 3: just just fifty seven of them, just a few. Yeah.

1458
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 2: You know, they put the forty seven completion jersey in

1459
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

1460
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: You see. Yeah, is that the most ever in a game?

1461
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: I believe it was.

1462
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty impressive. But anyway, getting back to

1463
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: Jacksonville because they're in the hunt obviously. You know, it's

1464
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: interesting because you know, Trevor Lawrence not a lot of

1465
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 3: dropbacks himself last week. The run game was the big factor,

1466
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's raising a lot of questions,

1467
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: and I think the tape raises the questions as as

1468
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 3: well as to what Trevor Lawrence ultimately is. You know,

1469
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 3: he's he's got positive gifts. Of course, he was tagged

1470
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 3: as being generational, which is silly about anybody who's never

1471
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: played in the NFL. But they're not really an offense.

1472
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: I think that works best when he drops back a lot.

1473
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 3: So now they've got two good backs. They've got tootin

1474
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: and they've got at and by the way, both have juice.

1475
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: Both can take it to the house, which you love

1476
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: if you have that ability. They can provide some explosive plays,

1477
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: but the past game is still a week to week

1478
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 3: up and down uneven element of their offense. And you

1479
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: know how I feel about that stuff, Mike. If something

1480
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: is not really strong on either side of the ball

1481
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 3: in any given week and can be exposed.

1482
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at the Jaguars right now. If you

1483
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: go down just their their positional leaders. I mean, Brian

1484
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: Thomas has played eight games, he's still seventy yards ahead

1485
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: of their next leading receiver, Parker Washington. Travis Hunter obviously

1486
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: gone for the year, Diami Brown is popped up on

1487
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: the radar a couple of times, and then you start

1488
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 2: going down. Jacoby Meyers one of the recent editions, so

1489
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 2: they're hoping to get him fully integrated, maybe up a

1490
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 2: bit as we go now to close the loop, you know,

1491
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: because we love our records. So the previous record forty

1492
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: five had been done twice twenty nineteen. Jared Goff, the

1493
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: other nineteen ninety four. This goes good back to our

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Speaker 2: Eric Zire conversation earlier. Yeah, nineteen ninety four by Drew bledsoe.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that doesn't surprise me. Drew could probably still throw it,

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Speaker 3: you know, but so it's one of those guys. Flacco

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Speaker 3: will be the same way. They could probably throw it

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Speaker 3: when they're seventy five. You know. It's yeah, just they

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Speaker 3: were such easy throwers.

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Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite guys to talk to when

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Speaker 2: you run into him, particularly if you got a little

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: bit of his double back wine that I was gonna.

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01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 3: Say, isn't he in the wine business?

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send you somep for the holiday.

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Speaker 3: Greg, all right, I'm not really a wine drinker, but

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that you.

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: Could take it to a party, you know, become the

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 2: popular guy at the party.

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Speaker 3: It's football season, Mike, I don't really do parties.

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Speaker 2: Well, I get that, Hey, what's he doing? He's watching tape?

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Speaker 3: Is there a holiday this week? I'm told there is

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01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 3: a holiday that's.

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: In between a lot of football three and then we

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: get Black Friday and with the Eagles and the Bears,

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01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: a little something special this week In terms of the scheduling,

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01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: no question about no bye weeks though, so we'll get

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: everybody in action for the week. But certainly, you know what,

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01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: you probably missed the Blue Gray game like I do,

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: right for that extra football on Christmas morning?

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Speaker 3: I do. I do. Indeed, you know I have to

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: work around because you know, Christmas is the holiday you

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 3: have to work around. You can't make people work on Christmas.

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean I do, but that's because I'm a little nuts.

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: But you can't make people work on Christmas. So you know,

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 3: we have to work around it with the matchup show.

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: And it is what it is, you know, that's it.

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 3: It's a spiritual holiday. You can't make people work.

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: Now. It's the beauty of the time of the season.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: But the passion project that we all undertake. We love

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: what we do. We're blessed to do it with you.

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Two weeks or two hours a week here on Fox

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 2: Sports Radio here on Sunday mornings. Countdown to Kickoff, presented

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM, comes up in about twenty minutes from now.

1534
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Speaker 2: They'll get you back through the college sl some of

1535
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: the big takeaways and chaos theories that are being forged

1536
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: coming on.

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure. Jeff Schwartz we'll spend the first

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01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:08,879
Speaker 3: how we're talking about Oregon.

1539
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: You got a lot of positivity coming out of.

1540
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: Oregon because here, well I love Jeff.

1541
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: But here in Los Angeles it was it was a

1542
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: lot of the Lincoln Riley Rise. But yeah, no, Jeff's fantastic.

1543
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love them.

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: So Jeff, Bill and Brian have you at the top

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01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: of the hour. We got you for twenty more minutes.

1546
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: We still have two big games to preview and some

1547
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: big takeaways as we get ready for Week twelve of

1548
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Speaker 2: your National Football League season. He's great co sal NFL

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: films forty six years. Hear them every Thursday, fifteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes. If they're smart, they just keep leeching that

1551
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: out and pushing the time on Colin Coward Show. That's

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: one pm Eastern catch that each and every week, must

1553
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: listen to radio. And obviously we're blessed to do what

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: we do here for our two hours. Hope you enjoy it, evangelize,

1555
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Speaker 2: send it to friends and family. Always looking to grow

1556
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Speaker 2: this global base that we have here at Fox Sports Radio.

1557
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: As we continue, though, we turn back team starting to

1558
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: get healthy. How dangerous are they today in a huge

1559
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: road game we'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 1: Here you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: Welcome back in couple last games to clean up. Here

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: at Fox Football Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside Greg coach selle

1563
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: blessed to be with you. Thank you for giving us

1564
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: on a few minutes of your time. It is not

1565
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: lost on us the options that you have and certainly

1566
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: the responsibilities and everything going on with the holiday holiday holidays.

1567
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: Be careful, be safe out there, take care of each other,

1568
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: take care of yourself, and enjoy some football because it

1569
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: is a fun slate. Here for Week twelve at Greg

1570
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: Coat cell where you find him in the twitters. Find

1571
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome, the matchup show that he does,

1572
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: hanging out with Colin Coward Thursdays at one pm Eastern,

1573
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 2: and of course breaking down everything is as he does

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: NFL films for forty six years. Greg, we got a

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: couple of games left to go. Let's let's start with

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota in Green Bay. JJ McCarthy a lot of incoming

1577
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson giving him the old vote of confidence. But unfortunately,

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: and fantasy owners know this all too well, the regardless

1579
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: of who's been under center, been a tough slog for

1580
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: those receivers downfield. McCarthy folks are already trying to push

1581
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: him to the to the wayside. It's been five games.

1582
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: Are you seeing any positive trajectory at all?

1583
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: I almost feel like he needs an off season to

1584
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 3: really have his mechanics reworked. And again, I don't know

1585
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: if it is fixable. We talked about this last week

1586
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 3: and he's a locked front leg thrower and that poses

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01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: problems when you throw the football. We won't go into

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01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: all the details of that again.

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: But we can find the podcast from last year.

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01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like and again I'm not a

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01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 3: quarterback coach, but you know, spend a lot of time

1592
01:17:55,200 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: studying quarterbacks, learned from really smart people. I don't know

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 3: if that's fixable. If it's not, then there'll always be

1594
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: some issues. Throwing the football doesn't mean he can't play.

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. Alex Smith was a locked

1596
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: front leg thrower, had a lot of success in this league.

1597
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: Then it comes down to other factors. So we'll see.

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01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: But I think on the other side of the ball,

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: that's where I think this game is really interesting because

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Speaker 3: people may remember that Minnesota beat Green Bay twice last

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01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: year and what Flores does. We spoke about this earlier

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: in our first hour. What he's so so good at

1603
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: is changing the picture from pre snap to post snap.

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 3: He's really good at understanding past protections and forcing you

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01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: to protect a certain way and then bringing pressure from

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01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: the opposite side. So this is going to be a

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Speaker 3: real challenge for the Packers offense for Jordan Love for

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Speaker 3: the protection and like I said, they beat him twice

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Speaker 3: last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw teams struggle against Carolina and Philadelphia. When

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01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: you go back scoring a total of twenty points in

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: those games for Jordan Love. Statistically, it looks clean right

1613
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: when you look at the touchdown, the interception ratio, Christian

1614
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: Watson with a big game against the Giants in that

1615
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty win, but week to week trying

1616
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: to determine, forget fantasy, but just in general the flow

1617
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: of that passing game. And now you've got a question

1618
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Speaker 2: mark with Josh Jacobs, who looks like he's a true

1619
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: game time decision. It's him and Emanuel Wilson getting after it.

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Speaker 3: And that's a great point, Mike, because they haven't run

1621
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: the ball this year though. Why they have the last

1622
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 3: couple of years, and we know that that's very important

1623
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: to metal a floor. He does not want it to

1624
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 3: be at Jordan Love, you know, just passing fest. That's

1625
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: not the way he wants to play. And I think

1626
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: Love based on tape has actually played pretty well. But

1627
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: they've had their moments where they've struggled to sustain offense

1628
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Speaker 3: and score.

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Speaker 2: Be really curious Minnesota side of things. Ryan Kelly back

1630
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: for that offensive line today. We'll see how much that's

1631
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: a help to young JJ McCarthy. All Right, last game,

1632
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: let's saddle up with one of the MVP favorites.

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford has a snap Fax, boots through to the right,

1634
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,520
Speaker 5: Flack Cafe, parking it out the five, makes a seahawk miss.

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Speaker 7: Against his former team.

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 5: Callby Parkinson puts it in the paints.

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Touchdown.

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford touchdown, Call me Parkinson touchdown.

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01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: Allay, there you go, another resplendent call. Matthew Stafford killing

1640
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: it and they're loving every bit of it. They've got

1641
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 2: the huge game tonight going up against Tampa, who returned

1642
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: Godwin and Bucky Irving.

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01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be really big. But you know what I'm

1644
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: curious about. We've talked about this. The last couple of weeks,

1645
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 3: how much thirteen personnel the Rams have played three tight ends.

1646
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: I'm curious if they stay that route with Tyler Higbey

1647
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 3: going on ir now, they still have three tight ends.

1648
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: But I'm curious to see because we know how good

1649
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: Sean McVay is. He can do anything and he can

1650
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: build any kind of offense. So that's something I'm going

1651
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: to look for in this game.

1652
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: I just want to go week to week where teams

1653
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: signed Mercedes Lewis to help out when they need him.

1654
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: But is he about sixty now? Is yeah? Yeah, he's

1655
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 3: close to Social Security now.

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: I think that's it. We talked with Jay Glazer earlier

1657
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: in the week. He's like, is he ready? It's like

1658
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: he can still block. Okay, get him out there. So

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: we rolled through at Great Cozell where you find him

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