1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. New Year's episode, last one 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: of the year. If you're seeing it after New Year's, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Happy New Year's saw you out there. We do appreciate you, guys. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Just a couple things, a little housekeeping episode before the 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: end of the year. We got Pete Alamzo drama, got 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Corbyn byrn signed a contract with the Dimbacks. Telling you 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: about that because I thought the met should have been 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: a little more involved. To Askar Hernandez. We almost signed 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: him apparently that we're interested in him. Got Sham and 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: I a contract info and Steve Cohen's Twitter was bizarre 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: for like two days. I don't know. We'll talk about 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: everything there before we do. Make sure our subscribe to 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. A ton of you sub the last episode. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. You listen to the call to action, We're 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: doing it one more time. Check that subscribe button. 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Excited for the rose Ball on New Year's Day? 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: Also funny you tell like the episodes that we put 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: out in the order we put them out in because 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: before we went back to our parents Christmas, we're like, 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna record a top Prospects episode, so try. 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: To you guys. 31 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Live interaction on that got great views. Just we love 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: doing the prospect stuff. We know you guys love doing 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: the prospect stuff. Somebody's gonna be really consistent with the 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: channel and the and the podcast is coming season. Gonna 35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: have some guest talking about prospect stuff soon too, definitely 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: as the winter free agency period starts to die down 37 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: the next month or so. And then we recorded an 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: episode that we put out and then we had to 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: stop Becauseheum and I saw it too in the morning. 40 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: Then we do that. We don't talk about Shanmanaia next one. 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: So we haven't really talked since like the fallout of 42 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: SHANM and I and then seeing all this stuff with Pelaus. 43 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: The last couple of days. But it was a really 44 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: nice holiday, really really really really wonderful time over this break. 45 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was good, and we did get a 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: little bit more like you said on that Sean Mania 47 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: contract situation, we got the Furrals. We got the Furrals. 48 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Love to hear that. What exactly were they? I think 49 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: it's like twenty million right over the three years is 50 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna be deferred. 51 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: I think about three million a year totally deferred. So 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: it comes down to basically like a I think it 53 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: was like someone said, a three year, fifty eight million dollars. 54 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: I'll double check it right now, but he seems like 55 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: Sean and I have sign a very friendly contract for 56 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: the Mets, which is a really really nice thing a 57 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: team that's trying to stockpile as much talent as possible 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: win a championship in the next few years. 59 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and could be used for some extra pieces. We 60 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: heard the taoscar Hernandez rumor he signed a three year, 61 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: thirty six million dollar contract with the Dodgers during the 62 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: holiday break, and apparently the Mets were interested. I think 63 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: it was Will Salmon or one of those guys, put 64 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: out that the Mets offered him a two year deal 65 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: similar aav to Taoscar Hernandez, and that was kind of 66 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise. I don't think anybody really 67 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: had down there, Bengo card that the Mets were gonna 68 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: go after Taoscar obviously a good player, obviously good hitter. 69 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: It makes sense, like I can see the thought process there. 70 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: But now that leads Mets fans to thinking, one, is 71 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Pete maybe not as sure to come back as we 72 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: thought he was. Are the Mets maybe not going to 73 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: be as aggressive as we thought that it would be 74 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: with Pete Alonzo for him to come back. And then three, 75 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: who's the guy to fill this in? Because they're clearly 76 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: after another bat. It looks like and if it's not 77 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: they Oscar and it maybe isn't Pete Alonzo, who could 78 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: that be a lot of a lot of questions that 79 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: need to be answered now for the Mets. 80 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: I think he's just very obvious looking at this team, 81 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: even with so though that they need another bat, like 82 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: there's just no doubt about it. It's like I meant, 83 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: I think everyone's assuming. I think you and I also too, 84 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: maybe wrongfully at times, that that bat still will be 85 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: Pete Alonzo. But there's no guarantee, and they were like, 86 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: we're all kind of all these things are meshing together 87 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: into the same conversation because the Pete stuff kind of 88 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: hit like a couple of different fever pitches over the 89 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: last week where allegedly the Mets offered him a three year, 90 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: ninety million dollars deal and apparently it came back and 91 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: by Eric Bierga and Martinez said that also something was 92 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: in that range was probably offered, so it was it 93 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: was half cooperated, and apparently with the snapback was that 94 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: they're still looking for something one hundred and seventy five 95 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: million total value, which still to me seems completely insane. 96 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: And then I got James's scoops and there's James source 97 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: right here where I had full confirmation across some dolls 98 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: is going to Tampa. 99 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Apparently he just lives there. 100 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: But it happened to the same night as all these rumors, 101 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: and he was flying commercial from Laguarirei Tampa Bay late 102 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: the nights. I was like, I don't know why that 103 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: would be happening. Seems like a sudden thing. It was weird, 104 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: but it just seemed like there was a lot of 105 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: motion in one shot. And then now it's dissipated the 106 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: last few days. So I do feel like there was 107 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: a bit of a push from the Mets to get 108 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Pete too again. The deal they seemingly have always wanted 109 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: to get him on, which is short term, high aav 110 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: what we've been talking about for a very long time, 111 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: and him and Boris are still just like, no, that's 112 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: not what we want. 113 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: We want to go for it. 114 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: And I do think that we're getting to a point 115 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: with Pete and Scott Boris where I think they might 116 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: be missing. 117 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: The big picture here in a bit of a way. 118 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: You think, if Pete and Scott Boris think he's getting 119 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five to two hundred million dollars, 120 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: he'll never play baseball again. He will never play baseball 121 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: professional baseball for any team in the United States ever again. 122 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: In the entire world. There's no one who is going 123 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: to pay him one hundred and seventy five million. We've 124 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: been talking about like in a perfect world where everyone's happy. 125 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: It may not be the best baseball decision long term 126 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: for the Mets, but we've said, like that five T 127 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: for Pete five one thirty whatever it is, like we 128 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: would be like as fans love that Pete, I'm sure 129 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: should be happy, But that's fifty million off the bottom 130 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: of what they're saying, which is absurd. I don't know 131 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: what contract they think that Pete's gonna get. Where do 132 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I think that's seven for one seventy five because there's 133 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: no team in their right mind besides maybe the Angels 134 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: because they're stupid, and maybe the Rockies, but now the 135 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: NL West is really impossible to win in so I 136 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: don't know who in the right mind would ever be 137 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: able to pay Pete Alonzo that kind of money, and 138 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: it would make sense. 139 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: It's also not a great thing for Pete Alonzo when 140 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: someone like Tiaoskcar Hernandez, who is not the first baseman, 141 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: he's mostly a DS or a bad corner outfielder. 142 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: But a lot of people are get to Peae. 143 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: It's probably mostly dh are a bad first baseman, and 144 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: he in terms of production for the last two seasons 145 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: similarly not that much different than Pete Alonzo. Really not 146 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: as different as you would feel deep in your heart. 147 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: He's He's even stole tall basels there. Pie's definitely going 148 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: to him more home runs than Taioskar. Pete has waity 149 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: more of a power ceiling, and Pete's two years. 150 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Young in Taioskar. 151 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: But three for sixty six for a right handed power 152 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: bat that does and give you any defensive value, That 153 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: to me is not great for Pete's market. That tells 154 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: me that three for ninety is an awesome deal for 155 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: pi Alonzo. And the other thing about p Alonzo signing 156 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: that three for ninety deal is that if you were 157 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: to sign that deal that does that's not the end 158 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: of his career. It's not the end of his earning potential. 159 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: I understand that that this is theoretically, and this has 160 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: been the whole thing with his whole Pee conundrum, the 161 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: last chance for him to get the monster contract. 162 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I think it totally is. 163 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Even if that ship may have sailed, this is the 164 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: last stand it even possibly get something like that unless 165 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: in that three for ninety deal there's a one year 166 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: opt out and pi Alonzo can spend one hundred and 167 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: sixty two games hitting either directly in front of or 168 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: directly behind want So though and either always have a 169 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: guy in first base when he hits, or always have 170 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: to pitch your scared shitless for the guy hitting behind him, 171 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: which we saw from all the Yankees guys this year. 172 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: It's really good to hit next to one solo in 173 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: the line, but it helps you have a really good season. 174 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: So then maybe you could have your one chance after 175 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: a one year opt out next year to sign even 176 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: possibly a five year deal. But the other side of 177 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: it two, let's say Pete that gets the three for 178 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: ninety doesn't want to opt out, he spends three for ninety. 179 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: With the Mets. 180 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: There's nothing that's ever going to stop Pee Alonzo from 181 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: continuing to chop off two for forties and one for 182 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: twenties in perpetuity, as long as he doesn't have like 183 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: any horrible debilitating injury or fall off a cliff so 184 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: fast that it makes everyone's head spin. Jack Peterson just 185 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: got one for twenty. Michael govindfourd though got a one 186 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: for seventeen. I mean again, those guys are both lefties, 187 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: slightly different. Michael fourth though missed entire year with injury 188 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: two years ago, really hasn't been good since. Like Jack 189 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: Peterson hasn't really gotten up or down in value the 190 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: last few years, despite keep getting older and never having 191 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: seialing with Pete Alonso like you like Carlos Santanan's later there, 192 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: he's just got a deal for what mili almost twenty 193 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: million eavy. So even if Pete is a three for 194 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: ninety guy and then after that plays three more seasons 195 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: for twenty million dollars, that comes out to what a 196 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: six for one fifty when it's all said and done. 197 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: I know it's not as guaranteed as they'd probably want 198 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: to be name of the line and not have to 199 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: worry about anything, But the six for one fifty, that's 200 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: a contract that I feel like, right now with one 201 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: hundred percent end this ontire conundrum. And that's a contract 202 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: that's really similar to one that Pee Alonzo wrongfully turned 203 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: down a year ago. So I think it's just it. 204 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is the Scott Boris white. 205 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: This is what he does, is how he kind of 206 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: winds up screwing a lot of free agents in the 207 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: middle class. It seems to me like there's these Pete. 208 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: These sides are very far apart. I'm not sure if 209 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: they have to be. 210 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that makes me think maybe the 211 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: three for ninety isn't actually that real, because Borish just 212 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: did these contracts with Blake Snell and with Matt Chapman, 213 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: and it both got those guys paid even more than 214 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: they were going to last offseason. So it's like almost 215 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: in a weird spot where it's like, does he not 216 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: believe in Pete either being able to play better? And like, 217 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: do we gotta cash you now because you've got nothing 218 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: left after this? Like it's it's very, very weird, and 219 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: it's leading me to I still think Pete's gonna be 220 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a Met at the end of the day. It just 221 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: it makes too much sense. And I don't even believe 222 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: these bullshit giant rumors either, like I until there's more 223 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: heat behind them, I'm just gonna kind of take them 224 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: as a little bit of propaganda, a little bit of 225 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: try to make the Mets scared. But I there is 226 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: a more creeping up feeling in my body that this 227 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: is gonna end ugly for the Mets and pee Alnzo, well, 228 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I think it's. 229 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: No matter what, we're in a situation where it is 230 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: ugly in general, Like this is a nuggly situation. You 231 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: talked about the Snell and Chatman contracts. Those were both 232 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: signed in fucking March last year. Yeah, like We're nowhere 233 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: near that. It's still December, Like we have months and 234 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: months before Boris and Beforeest gets into that range where 235 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: he's like, let's sign pillow deals. I don't think Boris 236 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: thinks about pillow deals until it's a weakest spring training 237 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: games that are played. And I don't think the Mets 238 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: are in situation where they might be super willing to 239 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: wait this out. And also that's another reason why I 240 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: think that the Oscar rumor kind of came out when 241 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: it did, like, oh, the Mets looking for another right 242 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: handed bet non accent that I came out the day after. 243 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: Apparently the Pilanzo contract kind of went by the wayside. 244 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: The whole thing, to me just feels like it's all 245 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: a it's all a game of posturing, is Leverage's a 246 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: whole It's a whole, giant, just mess. And I do 247 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: think part of it, I don't know, like you said, 248 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: if that three for ninety is real, if it's real, 249 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: or if it's fake. There's probably a part of the 250 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Plonzo that feels like it's a slap in the face, 251 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: which is so there's what he's done for this team, 252 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: how long he's been here, kind of how the fact 253 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: that and that's also where it's coming from, like this 254 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: massive point of sentimentality from the Mets fans that super 255 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: duper want him back. People are like, he has to 256 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: retire met He's one of the best homegrown power hitters 257 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: in the history of the franchise. So because you're not 258 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: able to develop power hitters in the nineties and two thousands, 259 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: you have to get Planzo a sentimental sentimentality contract. Now, 260 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: that's stupid, doesn't make any fucking sense. You can't compare 261 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: pi Alonzo to players from the fucking seventies. You compare 262 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: him to the market right now. And the market right 263 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: now is his first baseman. Aren't that valuable? Nate Low 264 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: gets traded for a middle reliever last year, Heno ra 265 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: in the forest. We know he has great stelf. This 266 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: is a Robber Garcia podcast, always has been. But that's 267 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: just that that seems to be like a market in 268 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: efficiency in baseball right now. So David Seerns the Mets, 269 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: as they do, are going take advantage of it. We're 270 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: pel Lonzo and Scott Bors don't want to be taking 271 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: advantage of and that's that's not a good not a 272 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: good mix, right now, Yeah. 273 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean I want I want Pete back so badly, 274 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm with those fans of like, yes, I would 275 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: love to see Pete be a Met as long as 276 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: he physically can play good baseball, Like I would love 277 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: that because Pete is the man. Pete has been the man. 278 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: He's at so many home runs for this franchise and 279 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: even like the playoff run that was pretty sick what 280 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: he did for us. But it's got to be at 281 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: the right price, and the price tag that he's putting 282 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: out there right now is insane. It's absolutely insane. I'm 283 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: with you six for one, fifty sign shake hands whatever. 284 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: If it ages like milk and you're four, five and six, 285 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: I will take that risk. It's not my fucking money. 286 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. But that to me is like the max, 287 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: the physical the physical max the Mets can and should 288 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: ever go. And even then they're bending the knee a 289 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: little bit to Peede Alonzo and the fan base almost 290 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: of like a let's just keep everybody happy move. 291 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: That for me feels like again it's way too high. 292 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: That to me just feels like what Pete Lonzo should 293 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: be envisioning for himself. If the three for ninety comes 294 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: to fruition. Yes again, pee Alonzo, He'll get twenty million 295 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: dollars forever for as long as he's breeding in, hearts 296 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: beating and the lakes still work. Yeah, it doesn't matter, 297 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: like Jack Peterson is still getting that much money every 298 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: single year. Like again, Lefty different, But you can do 299 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: that like that, that's something that's possible. And then again 300 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: got to ask Carnandez he needed to take a few 301 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: years to pick up his value in the middle of 302 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: it when he had a bunch of really good years 303 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: in a row. And now at the end of to 304 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: day's just signing back with the Dodgers. So whether or 305 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: not Domes are serious about him or not, no matter what, 306 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: this team is very aware they need a bat or 307 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: two to go into the season, intend to compete. 308 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: I think they will get I think they will get them. 309 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. 310 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: My confidence level Pilanso over the last week probably went 311 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: from eighty percent to sixty five percent. 312 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with all the yeah, I think that's fair. 313 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: I think that's fair sixty five percent. I definitely feel 314 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: less confident now. 315 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, less competent, but still there's still no better option 316 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: for Pete or for the Mets than each other, and 317 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: still he stills the fun qualifying offer attached to him. 318 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: And it's kind of the Giants and I don't think 319 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose a draft pick over Pete Alonso like 320 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: that rumor came out, and it conceptually makes sense. I 321 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: also don't think that's a good place for Pete to hit. 322 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: That doesn't really make any sense for me there either. 323 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. That's first of all, it's a 324 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: horrible place for Pete to hit. 325 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: But I think conceptually they are the only team that 326 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: actually would do to the new Buster posey Giants seems 327 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: like they're going for their home runs and RBIs, which 328 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: they might need a hard change inside that building after 329 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: the last few years, or maybe runs are selling how 330 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: much Buster Pose he's taking in the day, and then 331 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: the information and all that stuff. But Pee Alonzo's power 332 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: alley would play horrifically in Giants Park. He's a big 333 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: right center field hitter, that's where he has lives power. 334 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: He will lose all of those home runs there, completely, 335 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: all of them. They will all become doubles. But maybe 336 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: he'll get me squeak out of a few triples, but 337 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: that's just not a place for pe Alonzo to be successful. 338 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Every single year Pete's career except for twenty twenty one, 339 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: he would have had less home runs in San Francisco 340 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: than he would have had playing his games as a 341 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: met Even in though fifty three home run year, it 342 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: would have been down to forty six twenty twenty one. 343 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: For some reason he would have had he would have 344 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: had two more in San Francisco. 345 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: Don't know why. I guess he pulled the boll Moore 346 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: that year. 347 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two would have been from forty one to 348 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: thirty eight, twenty twenty three forty six to thirty eight, 349 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty four thirty eight to thirty three. Pe 350 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: longs is a thirty three home run, hither you lose 351 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 3: a lot of that value, tons of that value, But 352 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: all of. 353 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: A sudden, he doesn't get that next contract looking as 354 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: good if he hits thirty three. 355 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: But then he might get a five year deal from them, 356 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 3: So it might just be all he actually wants, which 357 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: I could see that being the case for him at 358 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Boris right now. I just if there's a team who 359 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: I think is gonna get a little silly and give 360 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: Pilanzo the big deal. The giants are the one I 361 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: would be concerned about. Yeah, I also just don't know 362 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: if that's going to happen. Pete also, Pete's from Florida, 363 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: New York and Florida. That's really easy. Yeah, like that, 364 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: that's an easy flight, easy way home. You can live 365 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: in both those places very comfortably. Serraisco is really far away. 366 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: It's like, it's just it's a big lifestyle adjustment. 367 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: To the city. Pete and the family might not clash 368 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: well with either. I don't know about that, And if 369 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: it's a good fit. 370 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: It's just the whole the whole thing, I just don't 371 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. I see them as the only one 372 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: that could possibly do, but I still don't see that 373 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: as like a legitimate, true possibility until there's more smoke. 374 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: It's I think it's all posturing for both sides. I 375 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: think Pete Boris and the Mets no, it's only each other. 376 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: Where the last two people to dance right now, we 377 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: don't dance. 378 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: With each other. I don't know if we're dancing with anybody. 379 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: So we have to do this. 380 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Just making eyes of each other. You're gonna make eyes 381 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: and me all night. You're gonna come say something that's 382 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of how it feels. That being said, now that 383 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: you know the Planzo rumors are coming out, Cordon Burns 384 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: has signed all eyes or on if Jesse Winker returns, 385 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: as we know, who could be that extra bat that 386 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: the Mets go after. Like you know a lot of 387 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Mets fans are clamoring for Jesse Winker. I like them. 388 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of Anthony Santander too being thrown around, 389 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: and to me, I know, we spoke about it earlier 390 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: in the offseason. I'm gonna have two takes. One initial 391 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: feeling is like whatever for Santander, Like, that's not the 392 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: guy I want to give a long term contract to. 393 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: If he wants to sign a taoscar contract, sure, why not. 394 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I think that's totally in play. But I don't know 395 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: if that's what he's looking for too. Is this the 396 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: weird free agent that we're kind of just like we're 397 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: looking past for no reason kind of with Santander. 398 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: I think both those are true. 399 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: One thing I love about Santandre that he gives the 400 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Mets is that he is a switch hitter with power. 401 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: I think this Mets team could just a switch hither 402 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: power hit in the middle of this lineup I think 403 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: would really really transcend it. We're pretty balanced right now, 404 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: so having him and Pete comes in, it will probably 405 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: be a little bit right handed heavy. Again, Santan Dere 406 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: kind of marries the whole thing together and that would 407 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: be great. But if he again, if he's a guy 408 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: that wants four or five years, he could quite literally 409 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: kick rocks. Like Anthony Santon. There is a career three 410 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: h seven on base percentage guy who has a horrible 411 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: chase rate and he's just turned thirty like and he 412 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: doesn't play the field. 413 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: That to me is just it's a true. It's true 414 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: recipe for disaster played. 415 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: In Baltimore the last couple of years two, which is 416 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: a hitters heaven out. 417 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: It's not so much a hitter asaven anymore. Let's be real, 418 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: if when you're. 419 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: A left handed hitter, it is who gives a shit 420 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: about the as alrighty, he takes. 421 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: A third of his at bats, righty, I'm saying he 422 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: still is his right handed hitter. Sometimes. 423 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't think the I don't think the Baltimore thing 424 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: is is super super duper meaningful as it currently stands, 425 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: so I think again, I don't think Antiy Santa there 426 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: are forty four horme runs next year. I'm pretty confident 427 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: unless he signed the deal with the Red Sox with 428 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: the Yankees, who's not gonna sign a deal with the 429 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: reds with the failer least, wh's not gonna sign a 430 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: deal with I think there's Anthony Santon. There is never 431 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: going to get to forty home runs. Again, I think 432 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: that's fair. So I think you're looking at a thirty 433 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: home run bat who's gonna have like a three fifteen 434 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: on base percentage and not give you good defense. To me, 435 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: that's not that much different than Jesse Winker. You're gonna 436 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: be able to sign for one year and nine million 437 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: dollars in the middle of March, Who's gonna be worth 438 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: literally nothing, who I'm sure has taken like nine total 439 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: calls his entire winter for maybe the same three teams. 440 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: Like he's just not like there's there's different classes of 441 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: free agent Jesse Winker. Jesse Winker's time of the market 442 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: has not exactly come yet. He's even behind like where 443 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: Jock Peterson is. 444 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: But sants on there. 445 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: I think it's fun and sexy, like for the forty 446 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: four homers last year are great A fourteen ops sure, 447 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: but seeing that on base percentage even his career year 448 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: be barely above three hundred, Like that's something. 449 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: Where you signed for a three year deal. 450 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: The third year you're like it, this sucks me about 451 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: the Anthony Stuns out there taking up one of these spots, 452 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: like that would be the Starling Marte all over again. 453 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I we're. 454 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: About to get rid of that. 455 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Yes, we are about the error of that, and I 456 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: think we got to avoid. Also another thing that came 457 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: up with the Tioscar stuff too, and I think Tim 458 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: Healy put it out was about were they considering Tioskar 459 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: in the outfield to leave the DH spots still open 460 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: and moving Nemo to center, which I thought was super 461 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: interesting too. I don't think that makes any sense, but 462 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. 463 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: I think that was just him getting after it with 464 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: a take. 465 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: I don't think the Oscar Cisco was one of the 466 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: worst outfielders a base for Yeah, and the Dodgers didn't 467 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: have a great defensive outfield anyway, so it didn't wasn't 468 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: like he had a lot of help flanking him. 469 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: But he's just not. He's not a very good outfield 470 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 2: I think the Oscar will just be. It's also bizarrely 471 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: he's not a good outfielder because he's still not that 472 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: old and he's like legitimately fastly. 473 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just yeah, he's just he's just simply a 474 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: butcher out there, and he's another guy like he's not 475 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: him and sants On dere have similar strength and similar weaknesses, 476 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: but they kind of blend together a lot, where Santan 477 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: there will expand his zone, where Hioscar's just daddy hacks, 478 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: like he doesn't chase as much, but he'll swing and 479 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: miss a lot. Yeah, and the task is two years older, 480 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: but the Oscar was also the same assouts on there, 481 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 3: hanging out at like three oh five to three ten 482 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: on base percentage. Until last year he was hitting the 483 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: middle of the fucking Dodgers lineup, a multiple Hall of Famers. 484 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: Then he then everything looks good. So it's good for 485 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: probably him in his career. His his standing that he's 486 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: going to be back with the Dodgers. But I don't 487 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: think Anthony Satson there is this game breaking free agent 488 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: that maybe others. Dude, I don't know if he's even 489 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: a good this Mets team besides the twitch hitting thing, 490 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: which is really unique and valuable. But if it's more 491 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: than two year deal again he can kick Rocks. 492 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you totally on that. All right, let's 493 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: talk about the other free Asian deal real quickly that 494 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: was signed during the holiday season. Corbyn Burns A bit 495 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: of a shock, bit of a surprise, was it? 496 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: Two shock? 497 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: As soon as we came back from the bar in Grantford, 498 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: I get a notification from Jeff Passon Cordin Burns Arizona 499 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: dineback six years, two hundred and ten million dollars thirty 500 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: five million dollar aav opt out after two years. I 501 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: think probably every Mets fan in the world had the 502 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: same reaction of we should have done that would have 503 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: taken that deal in a heartbeat. Context being that the 504 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Giants and Blue Jays, which hilarious blue Jays lose again. 505 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: Hate to see that for that fan base they missed again. 506 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: And the reason that he didn't sign with them, even 507 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: though they gave a higher offer was because of the 508 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: the tax he was concerned about and it ends up 509 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: being more in Arizona. He also lives in Arizona. His 510 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: family's in Arizona, so it's kind of a little bit 511 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: of a homecoming for him as well, even though he 512 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: grew up in California. At that price, I would have 513 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: done it as the Mets, but he wouldn't have taken it. 514 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: I think we can just we can make those two statements. 515 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: No that at that exact price, I would have loved 516 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: him to be on the Hut. In the fact that it's 517 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: only a six year deal, You're only getting Cordon Burns 518 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: from ages thirty to thirty six. 519 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 520 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: You might you might not. There's a good chance you 521 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: don't even have really that much fall off. Like there's 522 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: a pretty good chance that Corden Burns the entire length 523 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: of this contract one of the thirty best starting pitchers 524 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: in baseball legitimately, and if he's really good for the 525 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: next two years, he just takes the opt out. You 526 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: just got Cordon Burns for two years seventy million dollars, 527 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: which is like the best thing I could ever. That's 528 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: literally block sel from I think it's exactly what I 529 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: said the Messhure have offered them. It's this guy stretched 530 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: into March. He's just I think too much muzzling has 531 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: happened with Corden Burns in the media, and it's just 532 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: it's too easy to see. They're like, oh my god, 533 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: his career has fallen sharply every year. I know that's true, 534 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 3: and Cordon Burns is not going to be the best 535 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: pitcher in baseball probably ever again his career. He's awesome though, 536 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: He's so good, and I don't think there was another 537 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: team in baseball. Well, again, the Mets were never involved, 538 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: and I trust David Searns, who was very on top 539 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: of Cordon Burns during his entire breakout, the fact the 540 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: Mets were never involved, So I give my two cents 541 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: to that. I don't think there was any team in 542 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: baseball whose status is elevated for the twenty twenty five 543 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: season with the addition of Corpin Burns more than the Mets, 544 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: and that's why I kind of wish they would have 545 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: been a little bit more involved. Again, it seems like 546 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: from the beginning to the end, they were never even 547 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: remotely or close to being involved. So I guess can't 548 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: be mad about missing something that they never even considered 549 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: remotely for one second. 550 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I caution all Mets fans Just because 551 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: you don't have an ACE or a pro typical ace 552 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: on opening Day doesn't mean the Mets can't get an 553 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: ACE or a pro typical ace at some point during 554 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: the season. We know there are going to be pitchers available. 555 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: It's super sexy to win the World Series on March 556 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty eighth and have the best roster in baseball. We 557 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: know how much people love to do that. But at 558 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's about what that roster 559 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: look like at the end of the year. If the 560 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Mets go need pitching, I do believe at some point 561 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: during the season they will go make those acquisitions everybody 562 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: else on the market available. Truth through from the pitching side, 563 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think we should touch with a ten foot pole, 564 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: probably right. 565 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I still love Nick paved about I don't 566 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 3: think the Mets are going to do that. Like I 567 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: just I'm getting off in taskar NaN's a contracts makes 568 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: me think the Mets again either fully pop plans or 569 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: just don't really care that much about the QO, Like 570 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: our draft pick is moving back ten spots anyway, like 571 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 3: we've really signed one, I will know. I think that 572 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: if you sign more it doesn't affect the Ifa as much, 573 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: but it will still affect that like losing the picks, 574 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: and if you get if you get the two qualifying off, 575 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: your guys get to the third for free. So maybe 576 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: that's all sudden they consider. But it just seems like 577 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: the Mets and Davidson has been pretty open about this. 578 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: It seems like they're pretty done with the pitching after 579 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: acquiring Sean and Iya, with the exception of Roki Sasaki, 580 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: who were in the mix for but still certain long shots. 581 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: I think the only thing is that I could I 582 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: could still see a surprising trade happened with the Mets 583 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: for a pitcher. I could definitely still see that, whether 584 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: it happens now, whether it happens in June, but it 585 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 3: happens in July. I don't know if the trade deadlines 586 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: like August third this year, so I guess technically, whether 587 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: it happens in August, the Diamondbacks are certainly going to 588 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: trade a starting pitcher now. I was about to bring up, 589 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: it's definitely going to happen. I don't know who's going 590 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: to be. It really can kind of only be Gallon 591 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: or Jordan Montgomery, but it's this is a very creative 592 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: team to create the front office, and they have still 593 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: plenty of holes all over their team, So I wonder 594 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: what they're going to do the combat. 595 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: That they might be interested in like Bady. 596 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, not for not straight up for Zach Allen, of course, 597 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: not straight up, but for a team that definitely is 598 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: like a couple of major league pieces away on their 599 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: actual major league roster, Brett Bady could be could be 600 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a help for that team if 601 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: he's the Brett Baty we think he can be. 602 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: He also, I mean, I don't know if he's a 603 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: fit for that team right now in the dime on 604 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 3: roster resources Diamondbacks opening day third third Basemanno Suarez, who 605 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: wass awesome last year. By look, he's only signed for 606 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: one more year and right now they're starting DHS penciled 607 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: in as Peven Smith, which legend. 608 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: Diamond Backs fans that we're friends with. We know that 609 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: people are not fond of Paven Smith out in Arizona 610 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: as an everyday player. 611 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: I will tell you Peven Smith had had in August 612 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: to remember this past season, but three homes in the 613 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: game and Hen Suarez defense definitely has oscillated in the 614 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: course of his career, so it could go up and down. 615 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: But again, I don't know who's taking Brett Bady. 616 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: I think I think it's still a good chance he's 617 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: just on the mess roster on opening Day more likely 618 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: than not. 619 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but. 620 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: This Diamondbacks team really, really really needs bodies. Their bench 621 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: right now with Peven Smith in the starting line up 622 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: is Blaize, Alexander tim Tawa who who I don't know 623 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: how many players in professional baseball I don't know their names. 624 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: I've never hit the top infield or outfielder, and Alec Thomas, 625 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: who's still a good player in the back of outfielders. 626 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: They could probably use two more bats on this team, 627 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: and they still have what i'd call like a mid 628 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: to a mid to growing bullpens. They just I don't 629 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: know what they're going to do. I don't know how 630 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: they're gonna figure this out, but they are definitely going 631 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: to trade one of these guys. It might not be 632 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: to the Mets for sure, because they're still Jordan Lawler 633 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: two is probably gonna break camp with the team be 634 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: a guy all year, and they still Ryan Nelson, who's 635 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: their seventh star right now. Who if they if they 636 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: don't like Ryan Nelson. I love Ryan Nelson. Also, I 637 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: think they're still definitely some upside of Brandon five. Get 638 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: them out of that divisions, one of the hardest divisions 639 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: to pitches in baseball. If they were good, if they're 640 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: gonna trade any of these guys. I hope there's some 641 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: conversations being had, and I think there will be. I 642 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: just I just still don't know exactly after the Mania 643 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: contract where the Mets fitted to them. 644 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all I know is I just don't want it 645 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: to be Jordan Montgomery. That's the only guy I don't want. 646 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: I would take him a second, you would Why not? 647 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: Could be great with the Mets three three sixty uput 648 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: one hundred sixty five minutes. 649 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Skill convinced me when that conversation eventually happens, because I'm 650 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: sure that rumor will start soon, and because. 651 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: Right now with the Mets, like I'm comfortable, like and 652 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: I say that like through gritted teeth, comfortable with our rotation. 653 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: But still I think there's a question mark of code 654 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: saying his health. I think if I think I love 655 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: what Sean and I did last year, but I think 656 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: for all tens of purposes, we're pencing him in for 657 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: like a three six sixty innings, which is great, awesome, 658 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: need that mantas Peterson Holmes. While we'd like them all, 659 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: there's still certain question marks. And then it's Blackburn and McGill. 660 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: So like right now it's it's I think Griffin Canning. 661 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: It's a real it's a real chunk of like four 662 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: through six starts and we could really use another like 663 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: two or three to tie the whole thing together. 664 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. 665 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: It's it's bizarre, but I still think it's a playoff 666 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: team right now with one more bat, but more would 667 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: not hurt. 668 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: While I'm looking up some reviews because we haven't read 669 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: any reviews and we figured last episode that you might 670 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: as well do it. What was going on with Steve 671 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: Cones Twitter? Because I kind of. 672 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: Called it late all right, So people were saying, got 673 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: hack because we just when you went on twitther this 674 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: weekend or earlier this week. 675 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: I keep forgetting on the day of the week this Sunday. 676 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: Football's all right, Sunday. Yeah, Steve Coenes twether was just gone. 677 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: It's not there, and now Steve Cones Twitter, it's back, 678 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: but it doesn't have a it doesn't have a profile, 679 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: picture or or or a cover image, and it was. 680 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: It was a weird situation. People were like, oh my god, 681 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: Steve Conach Twitter's gone. What was this mean for p Alonzo? 682 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: Nothing? 683 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: Clearly, nothing at all, but just just another weird thing 684 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: to happen to Mets. I'm sure that I don't know. 685 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some legal issue that that Steve Conen 686 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: just couldn't have that Twitter open right now, or maybe 687 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: he actually got hacked and they were able to able 688 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: to stop the hacker before things got like too too 689 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 3: horrible a level. 690 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, Steve coms Twitter was hacked. 691 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: It was It was a good thing to think about 692 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: for twenty minutes on like earlier this week. 693 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we got a couple of reviews. Shall 694 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: I read him to end the episode? Yeah? 695 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: I read him out. 696 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: M's start with the heater. Yeah, poor quality, one star 697 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: rich Ballentine. Why do you guys need to courage so much? 698 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: It's a it's a common complaint. I'm sorry, it's just 699 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. It's it's words, You'll be okay, 700 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh what do you got? 701 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter has passed away? Damn r P wow A 702 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: right P Jimmy Carter. I think he was in the 703 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: hospice for almost two full years. 704 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I want to say he's he's kind of been on 705 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: his last legs for a minute. 706 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time. There's some peace, Jimmy Carter. 707 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Some peace, Jimmy Carter. Awesome analysis from te Hearn seven 708 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: point eight. You guys provide the best data and now 709 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: says great job breaking down Clay Holmes, appreciate that. And 710 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: then our boy Gavin Gavin left us another paragraph here. 711 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: I think he's not this like three. 712 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: Hey, the shout out, Gavin. We appreciate you. Gavin. Please 713 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: read my review at the end. That's pretty good. When 714 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: you're you gonna start to sell merch, well, hold on. 715 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: We both agree that bench has potential. When you said 716 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: that Conforido has an amazing tenure with the Mets, you 717 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: lost me there. His career average with the Mets was 718 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: two fifty five. Cook, Gavin, that sentence alone. You listen 719 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: to this podcast, you know that's not the most important thing. 720 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: That's also a pretty decent average. We'll say that he 721 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: will not be in the Mets Hall of Fame. He 722 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: will also not get his number retired. I mean that's true. 723 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: But definitely not. 724 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: You could still be good with a team and not 725 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: get your number retired. He got a lot of hype, 726 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: but he did not always live up to it at times. 727 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: He was a big whiff when he was up to bat. 728 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Most times at Bessie's an average player. I cannot let 729 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: you say, like say stuff like this. Come on, man, 730 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: I feel like people have a really bizarre remembrance of 731 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: Michael CONFORDO. He was awesome. 732 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael ford with the mess is one tenty five 733 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: WRC plus cabin over eight hundred ops. 734 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: It's really good baseball player. A fifteen ops. 735 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: He'd be what third best hitter on the Mets right now? 736 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: I mean a fourth definitely Marc Cianto's slamn Michael CONFORDA. 737 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying as a lifetime that. 738 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: Michael confortay him that Michael twenty sixteen, Michael Conford though, 739 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen Mile con four though, and twenty twenty four 740 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: Mark Fianto's That would be like the young core. 741 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: We've always dreamed about having together for the Mets. That'd 742 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: be perfect. Now, Michael four was a good bad Yeah. 743 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess you just had to be there. 744 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know Gavin might Gavin might be a little 745 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: bit younger than us two, so the memories might not 746 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: really hit the same way With Michael CONFORDO, I don't know. 747 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Twenty nineteen, my cold fourth it 748 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: was fucking awesome too. 749 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean who wasn't in twenty nineteen. J D. 750 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Davis was awesome in twenty nineteen. 751 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: I mean still it was still. 752 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: It was still thirty homes, two sixty average and what 753 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: thirty percent of the gaverage is all. That's why it 754 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: was WRC plus for twenty nineteen year There it is. 755 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: Anything else here. When we wrap up, it's a lot 756 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: end of the year you gotta get in New Year's resolution. 757 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: You want to tell the people I have' thought about 758 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: the resolutions. 759 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm way to focused on high to state the 760 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: organ to think about my resolutions. I CA I cash 761 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: in a lot of my resolutions this year. I can 762 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: go back and read them. They're my somewhere. 763 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: Also doing New Year's Eve with you again, and we're 764 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: doing the lentils again. For those of you who are 765 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: knew the podcasts, the Chiano family has a tradition of 766 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: eating lentils on New Year's at midnight. We did it 767 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: last year. Shout out Drew and Christy. We did it 768 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: at their party. James cooked up some lentils, took a video, 769 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: put it on met stuff. Pretty damn good year. About 770 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: as good as it could have been. 771 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: I brought lentils to the function and I got some 772 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: hate for it. But you know what a lot of 773 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: good years for the people at that party. 774 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: I will say, Oh, tons of great years, tons of 775 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: great years. 776 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm going back for my ins and outs 777 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: from last year. We don't did resolutions anymore. We do 778 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: ins and outs. 779 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: So I had some ins and outs too. I could 780 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 1: pull those up. 781 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, in carrying cash, I did that Brett baby Mark fiantos. 782 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: That counts bowling, trying to speak more Spanish. I failed 783 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: that one. 784 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Darts. We didn't play enough darts this year. That would 785 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: be one for next year. 786 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: I saw you sneaking a little darts and in Cranford 787 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: I saw you. 788 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: I did play a little bit, play a little bit 789 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Europe that cash in on that one. My out store 790 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: bought hummus. I have my own hummus recipe now they 791 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: make all the time. That was a good one. My 792 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: out was free agency. I guess that doesn't count for 793 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: one so though, so I'll take that one away. 794 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: Instagram. 795 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: I've definitely spent less time on Instagram and hadn't spent 796 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: less time in Manhattan politics. Definitely out on that. 797 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: Email. 798 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: Spent way less time on email. And the Jets was 799 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: out in the Jets the whole year. Great thing to 800 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: be out on. 801 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: Perfect. 802 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: My inns were meandering. I think I meandered a little 803 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: more this year, a little more good ending Darts was 804 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: on my ends as well. Riding the bus. I've been 805 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: all about the bus this year. Big bus guy. Jaywalking. 806 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: I've been jaywalking every single scenario, every chance I've been given. 807 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: I'll cross that street before the crosswalk, sweats at the bar. 808 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: I've done it like four or five a lot. Yeah, Electric, 809 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: it's a great move. Popsicles. Haven't had any popsicles this year. 810 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: I missed that one. Writing on paper, I just I 811 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: didn't write much either this year. Not a lot of writing. 812 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah you push the next year and then just and 813 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: then beer because I was out on Seltzer. No more. 814 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Seltzer's done with those. I think I think they're starting 815 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: to die down. Frenchies, Ah yeah, super out on Frenchies. 816 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Not a fan of those hiking. Done with hiking, never 817 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: will do it. I was out on Brita. We're just 818 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: ripping the tap, but I like it was good bad 819 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: water here in the Astoria Ice Spice, And then I 820 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: was out on politics. I wasn't doing it. Then I 821 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: think it's a breaking year. 822 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: Nevertheless, thank you guys. We've had a great year of 823 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: the mess of the podcast. We basically in the last 824 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: twelve months had to rebuild this entire podcast from fully 825 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: ground zero, Like we have to completely start this thing over. 826 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: We have to completely rebuild our base, our voice, like 827 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: our audience, Like if we could not have done without 828 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: you guys. We got tons support from the beginning to 829 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: the end. Yeah, we incredibility, have major thing we have 830 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: to build back up. But last twelve months this thing 831 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: has grown a lot. 832 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: We got great, great people working with now foul Territory. 833 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 2: We're excited for the big year. 834 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: The Mets went to the fucking NLCS and signed Wan 835 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: So though like, as a Mets fans, a banner year 836 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 3: and when your franchise only ever won two championships, it's 837 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: probably the third best calendar year they've ever had in 838 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: an organization. It is super exciting for the future we got. 839 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: We've got great things coming on. We got some fun 840 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: stuff planned. Definitely bear with us through these through these 841 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: adul drum winter months. We're gonna do some some wild stuff. 842 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: Definitely gonn take some shots, experiments, some stuff, yes, especially 843 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: on YouTube. But once the season starts, you guys know 844 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: you have Mark and I after every series, we're gonna 845 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: be coming with heat NonStop, having a lot of fun 846 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: being at the ballpark all the time. Mark officially season 847 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: ticket holder, which is gonna be aweso crazy, but it's 848 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: gonna be Thank you guys for a great year. Love 849 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: you guys, don't say it enough, and it's gonna be 850 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: another great one next. 851 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Just some fun acts to end it here on the year. 852 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: We're a couple days away from twenty twenty four, but 853 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand views on YouTube, and we know we 854 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: had a couple hundred thousand listens on the podcast, so 855 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty insane, like almost a. 856 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: More than couple hundred thousand listen. We're up to a 857 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand listens downloads on the podcast 858 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: side since the middle of the attempt. 859 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: So there we go. Like, that's that's pretty sick. So 860 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: we're over a million for the year in terms of 861 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: people are getting our content, which is really cool. In 862 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: terms of subscribers gain nearly five thousand subscribers on the year, 863 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: the channels at eight thousand subscribers at the time of 864 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: basically recording this. That's really cool. People have listened or 865 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: watched over one hundred thousand hours of our content on YouTube, 866 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: which is insane. And we had our most viewed video ever, 867 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: like yes a week we hit we hit the twenty 868 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: k mark on a video, which was really cool. I 869 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: wish I could find how many total videos we uploaded 870 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: on the year, but I gotta imagine it's going to 871 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: be around the I mean we. 872 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Uploaded a lot, probably around two hundred. Yeah. 873 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't miss a series. That's something we do 874 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: take pride in and of course that's not going to 875 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: change any time moving forward. Still going to pound out 876 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: those series recaps for you guys. But yeah, awesome year, 877 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: really good stuff all around, and can't wait to be 878 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: a part of your twenty twenty five Mets season as 879 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: well next year. So again, if you have not subscribed 880 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel, click that subscribe button really does 881 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: help us out. Drop Alke on the video too, and 882 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: if you are listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, 883 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: wherever it is, drop us a rating, drops a review, 884 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. Follow us on our social media at 885 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: mets stuff on Twitter, Instagram at TikTok. You can follow 886 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: James on Twitter. 887 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: At James Underscore, Shianna and. 888 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm draft neckwork with the c Thank you guys so 889 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: much for listening and watching. Have a happy New Year, 890 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: Be safe and we'll see you guys next year. 891 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: Bye h that guys, Happy New Year. 892 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Four