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Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist friends and neighbors our classic episode this

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Speaker 1: evening is only more relevant as time goes on. I

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Speaker 1: know we get a little bit soapboxy in this one,

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Speaker 1: But if you're listening now and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: bug out bag, do it? Get one immediately?

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Speaker 2: What's in your bug out bag?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't want to put you on the spot, Ben,

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Speaker 3: you cut this if we need to. I notice that

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Speaker 3: you carry a bag around a lot. Do you consider

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Speaker 3: that to be part of your bug out bag? I

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Speaker 3: don't know, system I guess or like? Is it partially?

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Speaker 3: Are you partially able to get out at any time?

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Speaker 3: Is that something we should be thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that I may not be the best

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Speaker 1: sample size for this because I'm a little more on

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Speaker 1: but I will I will say that. You know, as

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Speaker 1: an eagle scout, it is important to always be prepared.

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Speaker 1: Got it if possible. Right before you make an entrance,

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Speaker 1: you know your exit strategy. We were We get pretty

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Speaker 1: in depth with our bug out bag exploration and shout

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Speaker 1: out to our friends like the Casual Preppers podcast, The

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Speaker 1: question is this, if you were cut off from everything,

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Speaker 1: from all modern conveniences, for all of a sudden, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, all at once, for seventy two hours,

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Speaker 1: what would you need to survive? What would your loved

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Speaker 2: It's a good question and when we do our level

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Speaker 2: best to answer. In this very practical and functional episode

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Speaker 2: of stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is

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Speaker 4: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 4: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 4: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 3: my name is Nolan.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined as always with

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Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Mission Control deck and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you are you. You are here, and that makes this

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. This is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a weird episode for us because in

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys. I was surprised that

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Speaker 1: you know, Facebook or Twitter and asked us to make

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Speaker 1: an episodisode just about bug outbacks. Did you guys see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's an important thing that

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Speaker 3: maybe we don't think about in our busy lives all

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Speaker 3: something goes down all of a sudden. We learned it personally.

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Speaker 3: if something does go wrong and let's say even your

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Speaker 3: Two nights, forty eight hours? And we noticed a response

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this episode's going to be a little

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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to walk through what a bug

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Speaker 1: all look great? By the way, I want to point out,

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Speaker 2: This is a question that I had. I'd never heard

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back, Matt. I'm intrigued. What, yeah, are

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Speaker 3: is my wife. So she doesn't want it, so it's

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00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: not going to happen. I would very much like to

437
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: have something like that, but it's not gonna happen anytime soon,

438
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: got it.

439
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I think you've done I

440
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: think you've done a good job at I make sure

441
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I didn't miss this. Do you have like a multi tool,

442
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: like a leatherman or anything like that in there?

443
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: That is exactly what I need. It's exactly what I

444
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: need to I've got that on my list of needs,

445
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: as well as purification tablets I don't have right now,

446
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: or any kind of masks or a good antibacterial sanitizer

447
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: just given the circumstances. And the last thing that I

448
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: absolutely need that I don't have is a life straw.

449
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: I was just about to ask about that. Yeah, Ben,

450
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: you were always seeing the praises of life straws. You

451
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: want to remind listeners what those are.

452
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, life straws are a pretty handy invention. They are,

453
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: or were, relatively inexpensive things that allow you to drink

454
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: water from say a puddle or something without necessarily having

455
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: to boil it. And the cool thing about the filter

456
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: is it really is it's a cylindrical It looks like

457
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: a cylindrical overly thick straw or two. And the way

458
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: the filter works is such that you can sip directly

459
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: from the water source. It'll go through the filter and

460
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: be safe to drink in most circumstances. No, it doesn't

461
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: filter out everything. In course, you're not going to show

462
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: up to Chernobyl and find an a radiated puddle and

463
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: drink from that. But it is great to hav in

464
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: a pinch it's no replacement for having those purification tabs though,

465
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: so you would I would ideally recommend having both of them.

466
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: But that goes to the question what should be in

467
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: my bug out bag? We ask each other to answer that.

468
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: We have to talk about a couple of very important things.

469
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: There's no silver bullet bug out bag. There's no like

470
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: one stop panacea for everyone because we live in different

471
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: parts of the world.

472
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that being said, you really have to consider

473
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: your surroundings. That's the big number one. Do you live

474
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: in a cold, arid part of the world humid hot region.

475
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: You'll need different things depending on where you are and

476
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: what season is it. Secondly, you need to keep in

477
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: mind how long you want your supplies to last you.

478
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: The typical bug out bag is seventy two hours, like

479
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: we said, but you can plan for more or less.

480
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 2: If you think twenty four hours is fine, it seems

481
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: like a bare minimum to me. Are you packing just

482
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: for yourself or like Matt, are you having to consider

483
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: a small child and another human being, another full grown adult.

484
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: This is These are very crucial questions and you're going

485
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: to very much change the trajectory of the project. All

486
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: of these factors are going to play a huge role

487
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: in your construction of said bug out bag. You'll also

488
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: want to check back in on your bag every six

489
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: months to make sure that everything still works, do a

490
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: little maintenance, make sure nothing's expired, and everything remains seasonally appropriate.

491
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: You do not want to have your car break down

492
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere at the height of summer,

493
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: only to find that your emergency change of clothes is

494
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: like a sweater and some gloves or something like that

495
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: than some leg warmers.

496
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: I am definitely guilty of that. For a while, my

497
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: bug out bag looked like like a gym bag or something,

498
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: you know, with like the minimum amount of clothing. And

499
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: then it got into the winter and I was like, oh, oh,

500
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: I haven't changed to this. It's okay.

501
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: Well, full disclosure to you guys. I'm learning a lot

502
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: here because my bug out bag literally is a gym

503
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: bag and and and then it's just a gym bag.

504
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: And I don't even go to the gym very often.

505
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: So I am going to take some cues from you guys,

506
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: along with listeners hopefully, so I'm really ready to dive

507
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: in even further.

508
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go ahead and preemptively give a

509
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: shout out to all our fellow listeners on Here's where

510
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: it gets crazy, specifically Shia or shay sh Ea Parizine.

511
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And here's where it gets crazy. Who asks people what

512
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: they put in their bug out bags. There's a great

513
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: conversation going on around that, and you'll see that not

514
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: everybody agrees, and you'll also see that people are in

515
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: very different situations to your point. So let's let's say,

516
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: like the one rule is you ideally want to have

517
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: this ready before you need it. So we've got a

518
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: list of what we consider more or less essentials, and

519
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: then we've got a list of things that are nice

520
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: to have but not mandatory. And then we've got a

521
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: list of what I would call extreme things, so essentials.

522
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: Backpack container, you know, I would say this can be

523
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: anything that works for you as long as you're able

524
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: to carry it easily under your own power, and it's

525
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: something that is waterproof, a that's non negotiable or water resistant.

526
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't you know, not everybody agrees on this, but

527
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I would say backpacks are Backpacks are going to be

528
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: great because if they have two straps, it's going to

529
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: be less fatiguing on your body to carry it over

530
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: a long period of time. You know, if you've ever

531
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: carried something really heavy and like I have messenger bags,

532
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: and if you walk around for hours with those, then

533
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: you have tow to different shoulders and it can start

534
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: it can start wearing on you differently.

535
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: That's a good point, Ben, I can speak to that personally. Yeah,

536
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: And a nice kind of camping type backpack would probably

537
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: be the way to go because they're usually just a giant, big,

538
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: kind of like empty area without too many pockets, and

539
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: you can just like fit as much stuff in there

540
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: as you possibly can and then just sense it up

541
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: at the top, and then sometimes there's pockets on the side.

542
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: Like I have a pretty nice camping backpack that's just

543
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: one big, huge cavity in the middle and then a

544
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: couple of small pockets on the side and one big

545
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: pocket on the back, and that's all you need. You

546
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: don't need anything super fancy.

547
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of those backpacks are expandable a

548
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: bit in case you do find yourself in a situation

549
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: where you need to expand your kit. So I would

550
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: say that's a really good call.

551
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, listeners, have you ever

552
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: found yourself in a situation where you were physically panicking

553
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: because your phone was about to die and there was

554
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: no electricity nearby, and you rely so heavily on your

555
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: phone for everything from communication to directions to just like

556
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: piece of that's something you really need to take into consideration.

557
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I would add to this list if you

558
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: if you are gonna need to lean on your phone,

559
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: bring several of those like, you know, tricks that you

560
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: can always recharge your phone with without having to you know,

561
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: have any electricity. But more importantly, you need to discount

562
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: your phone entirely and have a physical map and a compass,

563
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, analog technology. Right, This stuff holds up splendidly.

564
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's really crucial. You might have a

565
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: regional map or a particular city or a US Atlas,

566
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: but the compass is gonna be key because it doesn't

567
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: require any electricity. It's absolutely lightweight, easy to carry around,

568
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: and it can absolutely be the difference between life and

569
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: death if you say, lost in the woods and you

570
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: need to find your way out to the highway or whatever.

571
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: It's just a crucial piece of kit for for for sure.

572
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: You know, Ben, do you have a good compass? I

573
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: do not have one in my kit right now.

574
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have my Oh well, I say it's good.

575
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: It just has a broken yet.

576
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: Well, sure that's great.

577
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have my old, my old, reliable. I haven't

578
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: dug it out of my bag yet. I'll get the

579
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: brand name and look it up. But I would say

580
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: that's a good point. A compass is a good investment.

581
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna see. There are some things, especially multi tools,

582
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: that are next multi tools or survival knives are sometimes

583
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: called that's another essential. There are some of those that

584
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: will include maybe a little dinky compass on the end

585
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of the knife handle or whatever. But a compass is

586
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: lightweight enough that you want a dedicated one that just

587
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: does that. Even though I'm a huge proponent of things

588
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: with multiple applications, you want a compass that is just

589
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: a compass, because if you get one that's just sort

590
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: of an add on to an existing multi tool or apparatus,

591
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: then it's the odds are it's not going to be

592
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: as well made, which means it won't be as dure,

593
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: which means at some point, you know, I don't know.

594
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: There is some different kind of like bear grills type

595
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: things you can do to make make your own quote

596
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: unquote compass in the wild, but just buy one if

597
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: you can, because they're not going to break the bank.

598
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: What are we talking like, twenty bucks, thirty bucks.

599
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Less? Yeah, you can find some used ones for less

600
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: if you go to like your local camp or military

601
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: or if you go to your local military surplus store,

602
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: you can find some used ones for less. You can

603
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: also find I mean, like anything, there's a wide range

604
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: there for sure. But I wouldn't I wouldn't pay like

605
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't treat a compass like a fancy watch. I

606
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't not pay a premium for one you just needed

607
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: to work.

608
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: There's definitely some that look like fancy watches, and they're

609
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: in the like seventy dollars range. But there's one called

610
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: a Silva Guide Explore two point zero compass that you

611
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: can get at Cabela's at twenty five bucks, and it

612
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: looks pretty pretty sturdy, and there's there's a whole range

613
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: of them, so absolutely.

614
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Whoa on Amazon. I just found it's a parachord bracelet

615
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: with a fire starter and a compass on it, and

616
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: and that.

617
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Parachord bracelet is one of the ones where you can

618
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: disassemble the bracelet and it becomes like a piece of

619
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: rope that you can use. Isn't that the deal?

620
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

621
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Five point fifty pair record. It's it's it's kind of

622
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: a gold standard for that sort of stuff because you

623
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: can use it to bind, you can use it to

624
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: help hang up a tarp. That's actually on the list

625
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: later here, but I don't want to lose that. A

626
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: knife for a multi tool or if you're if you're

627
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: so inclined, a machete. Of course, multi tools are great,

628
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: you you know, the multi tool is probably most familiar

629
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: with people is going to be the stereotypical, uh, the

630
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: iconic Swiss army knife, right, But that's that's just the beginning.

631
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: Like leather Man has some great multi tools, but they're

632
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: they're in the pricier range, you know, think like uh,

633
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars plus for some, but they include things.

634
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: They include like nineteen or eighteen different things like a

635
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: leather all, a small saw, you know, pliers of course,

636
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: tiny scissors, things like that, a can opener, right you. Basically,

637
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: a multi tool is a great example of something in

638
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: your bug out bag that fulfills multiple uses, restricting you know,

639
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: it lowers the amount of weight you're carrying, because if

640
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: you had to carry a screwdriver, a pocket knife, a

641
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: corkscrew of can open all this other stuff separately, it

642
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: gets heavy very quickly, and weight is your enemy here.

643
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: That's why with fire starters next on the list, you'll

644
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: see people who say, I'm not gonna bother having a

645
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: canister of matches. I'm not gonna bother having you know,

646
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: a lighter, because it needs fuel. I'm just gonna carry

647
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: a flint and steel striker ca. Those things work, man,

648
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: but they are they're a pain. I personally have some redundancy.

649
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I have a I have a lighter, a striker kit,

650
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: and a little thing of waterproof matches, just because I

651
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: don't want to need a fire and not be able

652
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Speaker 1: to make it. Also a little life hack there, if

653
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: you have access to a home washer dryer, you can

654
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: collect dryer lint. I think somebody also mentioned this, and

655
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. You can collect dryer lint

656
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: and compress it into a into a really small container.

657
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Maybe take like an old prescription bottle or something. Just

658
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: stuff that with dryer lint, and then you can use

659
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: that as your tender to make a fire.

660
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great idea.

661
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do that today.

662
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: And it's a good you know. You know, it's like

663
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: clean out your dryer trap. It's so fun. You're like,

664
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw this away. This stuff is

665
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: like gold. There must be a use for it. And

666
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: there there we are. There's a use for it.

667
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Speaker 1: So, Matt, you and men. First aid supplies, first aid supplies,

668
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. You can. You can find some

669
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: some good pre made first aid kits, but you can

670
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: find even more mediocre first aid kits. What you want

671
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: to do, Yeah, and a lot of the like really

672
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: good comprehensive ones are going to be fairly expensive, especially now,

673
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: so I would recommend making your own kit. Get any

674
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: necessary medicine that you will need, bandages, disinfected, painkillers. You know,

675
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: some people include stuff that other people consider unnecessary, like

676
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people have, Like if you have a tourniquet,

677
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: you are you might be considered a little too extreme

678
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: for some people. But you know, you might also be

679
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: in a situation where you say, hey, I have a

680
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: real possibility of losing a limb.

681
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: You know, no, that's true.

682
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Speaker 1: We're going to pause for a moment for a word

683
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684
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685
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686
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: stuff A flashlight. Some people say a headlamp. I would

687
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: say a flashlight. It works. If you're in a car,

688
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: you might want to put in signal flares, you know,

689
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: roadside accident kit stuff. But if you're on foot or

690
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: you're on a bike or something, it's good to have

691
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: a flashlight with you. But remember a flashlight is only

692
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: as useful as the battery power. So if you decide

693
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: to have a flashlight, you are also deciding to have

694
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: extra batteries or some sort of charging mechanism for that.

695
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Be careful, you know not. I mean, like we've all

696
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: seen the horror movies. Maybe some of us have personally

697
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: encountered it, but there's nothing quite as discouraging as being

698
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: in the dark and seeing your flashlights start to flicker.

699
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: It's never a good look.

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my recommendation would be a some kind of led

701
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: flashlight that doesn't use a ton of power just to

702
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: make it work correctly, and just a few extra batteries

703
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: considering how long you want your bag to function.

704
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Then you know water purification tabs work. You're

705
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: also going to want to carry at the very minimum

706
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: containers for water or a water bladder. Some people use

707
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: like a camelback for instance, but you have to have those.

708
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: That's non negotiable. One difference would be some people say, hey,

709
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: why don't I just carry that? Why don't I just

710
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: have the container itself? And other people say, no, I

711
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: want to already have water stored in there. There are

712
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: a couple of different reasons people make that decision. But

713
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: if you decide to just carry a bladder or a container,

714
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: then make extra show were that you know you will

715
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: be able to have water that to find water that

716
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: you can put in that container. Otherwise you're just lugging around,

717
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: uh something empty, you know what I mean. So I

718
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: think you can tell by the way I'm talking that

719
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm a proponent of already having the water with you.

720
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Speaker 2: But I guess the drawback there is that you know,

721
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: water is heavy, exactly.

722
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Nail on the head. Speaking of nails, what about a

723
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: what about a repair kit? You know, we mentioned things

724
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: are different if you're if you're thinking about something you

725
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: store in your car, But even if you're on foot.

726
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: You want to have, uh, you want to have some

727
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: amount of rope or binding implements, five point fifty pair

728
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: of cord maybe some uh what do they call carabiners carabiners?

729
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: I never remember out of I think it's beaners. Beaners. Yeah,

730
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: you want to have some care beaners. Uh. And you

731
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: want to have duct tape. It's duct tape is not

732
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: I know we're based in the South, but please don't

733
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: think duct tape is somehow just quote unquote for rednecks,

734
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: duck takes chrome. It's so useful, it's so versatile, I got,

735
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: you know, and you can.

736
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Speaker 2: Use it if you hurt yourself in a pinch. You

737
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: could use it to wrap a wound, you know, or

738
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Speaker 2: use it to create a makeshift brace. Like if you

739
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: have like a piece of a stick or something, you

740
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: could like use the duct tape to attach it to

741
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: a fracture in multiple locations. And it wouldn't be perfect,

742
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: but it would definitely get the job done in a pinch,

743
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: right absolutely.

744
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: And you know, you might be in a situation where

745
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: you have to get the job done in a pinch.

746
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: You might be someone who bought a bargain basement first

747
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: aid kit and you get a serious injury and you're like, oh,

748
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't have the means to stitch something up. I

749
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: guess it's the duct tape because these band aids aren't

750
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Speaker 1: going to do it, you know, no offense Johnson and Johnson.

751
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: You also want some sort of emergency shelter. This is

752
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: This can be a tough one for people in relationships

753
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: because sometimes we have different definitions of what an acceptable shelter.

754
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: Is, right, Yeah, like one of those fire festivals, theesic

755
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: domes or something, you know.

756
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Right, and then someone else might say, well, I am

757
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: not gonna live like a hobo sleeping with a tarp

758
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: on the ground and a tarp between these trees.

759
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: Right, I need a bespoke, you know, heated tent.

760
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I'm a glamper, not a camper. Rightly, you'll

761
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: you'll That's why you'll see things like emergency blankets great

762
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: to have, especially if you're in a situation where things

763
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: are very cold, or where somebody might be exposed to water,

764
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: or you know, their body temperature, the core temperature might

765
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: be dropping. There are some chemical handwarmers that that work well,

766
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: but they're single use, so after you've cracked them open,

767
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: they'll and after the after their first use, they're gonna

768
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: be useless to you. I I personally, I keep a

769
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: tarp and a small tent and a in an emergency blanket.

770
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: But that's it, and that's that's just me, and that's

771
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: because I still have that in my car.

772
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say a tarp and just a small

773
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: spool of twine goes a long way.

774
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that you can because the tarps have little

775
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: little uh gramets on the sides, so you can use

776
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Speaker 2: it to attach to a tree like a makeshift shelter.

777
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: You know, you don't like, let's let's just make it clear,

778
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: you don't have to like sleep directly on the ground

779
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: covered by the tarp. You can kind of rig it

780
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: up so it creates almost like a little awning kind

781
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: of and then you're sheltered from the rain. And then

782
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: you can kind of like lay a blanket out underneath it.

783
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: And it's a pretty solid little makeshift shelter.

784
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: And if you're in if you're in an environment where

785
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: you can take found materials like sticks in the woods

786
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever you find laying around in an

787
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: urban environment, you can you can position your tarp when

788
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: you string it up like you just said, Noel, you

789
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: can position your tarp to c leckt rain water and

790
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: go into one of those containers for water that you

791
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: have with you, and that of course only works if

792
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: it rains and if the rain is not poison So

793
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: there are a couple of biffs there. Hopefully we're not

794
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: in the poison rain stage.

795
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Speaker 2: I don't know this, Ben, but but do you think

796
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: there's maybe something that would filter rain, if like, like

797
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: something you could add to a container that maybe would

798
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: filter rain if there is any impurities like that and

799
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: make it guaranteed more safe to drink.

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00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'll still want to boil it if you

801
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: can't just in general. Yeah, but put in water purification tabs.

802
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: That's why you want to have those, you know. It's unfortunately,

803
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: it's it's safe to assume that you should have some

804
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of purification filter or process between you and water

805
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: that you find in the wild. Now, like it's if

806
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: you're like we have the Chattahoochie here, and you know,

807
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: if things can't worse the worst, people would probably go

808
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: to the river and try to drink or get potable

809
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: water from there. But even then you would want to

810
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: boil it, or you would want to purify it somehow.

811
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, let's say you've got water again. That's

812
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: the most important thing if stuff starts going south here.

813
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: If you think you're going to lose access to water

814
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: at your house, just start storing it, you know what

815
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean. I'll say it. Maybe I'll get in trouble

816
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: about this, but if we're getting to a point where

817
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: utilities might no longer be feasible, forget your water bill,

818
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: fill up the tub, and fill up the tub. You

819
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: can also empty out the I know it sounds gross,

820
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: but it's okay. You can also empty out the top

821
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: tank of your toilet if you have one with that design,

822
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: and you can boil that. We're not at that point yet.

823
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Just things to be aware of. But what good is water?

824
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: If you don't have food, you'll die and I think

825
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: you'll dive of starvation in about two weeks without food.

826
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: But in this situation, you're probably moving around, You're probably

827
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: in a very stressful environment, which means that your caloric

828
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: activity is probably going to increase.

829
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna need to keep that in mind

830
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: and uh pack some sort of high calorie and compact food.

831
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: Uh So that would include things like you know, granola

832
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: bars or any of those energy type bars that you

833
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: know that have a lot of protein built into them.

834
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you can go the prepackage route like in

835
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: good old fashioned m R. Those generally are pretty big, uh,

836
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: but they are really great for actually getting a ton

837
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: of calories into you.

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00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Ben.

839
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Speaker 3: The MRU gave me was, I don't know the size

840
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: of a nice tome, like a large tome.

841
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've got it. I've got one. I've got

842
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: to give you.

843
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: Oh thanks, but I appreciate it. Yeah, No, I could

844
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: see that would definitely be something you would you would

845
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: want to consider, or anything that you cook on a

846
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: small you know, gas powered camp stove, right m hm.

847
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Also very important and you'll like this point, Matt, very important.

848
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: People on our fellow listeners will kill us if we

849
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: don't mention this very very important for any of that

850
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: survival food. Pack your own hot sauce. Have hot sauce

851
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: with you. I know it sounds like a cutesy joke

852
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: thing or something, but it can improve a lot of

853
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: notoriously bland food. And if you put hot sauce around

854
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: on the outside of some of your food containers, it

855
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: can it can help repel a certain wildlife.

856
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: See I don't have hot sauce, but I do have

857
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 3: red pepper flakes in mine.

858
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Nice.

859
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: Nice, but it's only for taste. I didn't think about

860
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: any of those things ben actually repelling things.

861
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: Well.

862
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Also, I don't know. We could talk about MRIs all day. Actually,

863
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: Nola and I did with Jacqueline Riposo on a different show,

864
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Ridiculous History. We did a history of MRIs, So tune

865
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: in if you want to hear that. And if you

866
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: have MRI easy you're like, this is this is too

867
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: big for me to put my my backpack comfortably? Then

868
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: you can open it up. Go ahead, open it up,

869
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: break it down, and just take the stuff that you

870
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: feel like you need.

871
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: What about like ramen noodles or something that'd probably be

872
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: a good one. You could easily do that over a

873
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: camp stove, and they can be pretty compact, those little

874
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: bricks you know, or even even the cups.

875
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: It just takes more prep right, Well, you could crumble

876
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: it up if you just took the you know, the

877
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: dry squares, you can crumble it up so that you

878
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: can store the bag more easily, and then you can

879
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: just make you know, you'll just beaten short ramen noodles.

880
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: That's it. Change of clothes. Change of clothes. Make sure

881
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: there's seasonally appropriate. Remember extra socks and underwear. Also, if

882
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: you don't typically wear durable shoes, then you know, if

883
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: you have room, I would say include some footwear in there.

884
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: But remember that stuff can be heavy, like boots, be

885
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: real heavy.

886
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: It can. But you got to think about like what

887
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: that's that's where you start getting really cold and gross.

888
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: Is if your one pair of shoes is soaked through,

889
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, to your feet, and it's cold and raining,

890
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: you might really consider making room for like a nice

891
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: pair of like gortex boots or something that are like

892
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: very very weather resistant, or just wearing those on, just

893
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: wearing them from the start exactly. Yep.

894
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is another one. This is something that

895
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: stood out, Matt. You mentioned this a stash of cash.

896
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: So some people will tell you to carry gold bullion

897
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: around because of that old bailout bag pilot story. But

898
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: sometimes be very careful about this. Sometimes the people or

899
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: institutions advocating that are the same people trying to sell

900
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: you that gold, So do be skeptical of them. I

901
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: have cash stashed away. I don't think there's anything wrong

902
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: with it, But I do, I do think that we

903
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: have to be careful not to pin all our hopes

904
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: on that, because you know, there may be situations where

905
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: cash doesn't matter, right, Like we like here in Atlanta,

906
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: we've seen a move toward a cashless society that we

907
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: somewhat predicted in a previous episode. We just didn't see

908
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: it happening this way. Remember that one, guys, Yeah, I do.

909
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: What I would say is even if you find yourself

910
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: in that situation where cash doesn't matter anymore, that's gonna

911
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: be worst case scenario, right, I mean, that's absolutely worst

912
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: case scenario. And in most scenarios where you would need

913
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: to go a go bag, having a little bit of

914
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: cash is just gonna help you either you know, get

915
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: whatever extra thing you need for that night or for

916
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: those two days, or to even make not a deal

917
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: with someone, but to get someone to help you. I mean,

918
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: that is a real thing.

919
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: Another thing that's really helpful to pack in your go

920
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: bag is the gift of gab, you know. I mean,

921
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: it's really important to be able to like negotiate yourself.

922
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm only half kidding, Like it really is important, and

923
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Ben and you matter both fantastic at this being able

924
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: to kind of talk yourself into an out of tricky

925
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: situations and convince people to help you. And it's not

926
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: to say that you're manipulating people or being, you know,

927
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: in any way duplicitous, but to be able to plainly

928
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: and simply state your case and put it in a

929
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: way where people can understand and can actually help you

930
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: and feel compelled to help you.

931
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: Well, we all all three of us are podcasters, so

932
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that applies to you as well. Noel, thanks

933
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: you saying yeah, just you know, just to run through

934
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: these other ones. These are all easy ones. To the

935
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: earlier point you made, Noel about charger bricks, would I

936
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: would recommend, in addition to those, or at the very

937
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: least in replacement of those, have a solar powered crank

938
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: charged radio and phone charger of some sort. Yes, they're inexpensive.

939
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: You can also power up the bricks with that as

940
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: long as you have sun.

941
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: Like I would argue, I would tend to bet there

942
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: are new ones that maybe even have USB ports built

943
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: onto them. I'm just guessing.

944
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the kind I have. Also, I would recommend,

945
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: of course, like like you said earlier, Matt. One thing

946
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: you nailed that a lot of people don't think about

947
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: is a hygiene kit. Even if it's just like a

948
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: little travel bag that you got from the from a

949
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: distant relative for the holidays, it's better than nothing. You

950
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: have to remember good hygiene is the first step in

951
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: good first aid.

952
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: Especially now that we know washing our hands is so

953
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: important because we all forgot for a couple of hundred years.

954
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's gonna be the biggest takeaway from this

955
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: whole crisis is wash your damn hands.

956
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: And if you're in a long term situation, you know,

957
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: people can assure you the things that get you are

958
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: the are the small things that you didn't exercise preventative

959
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: medicine on, like a toothache turns to something where you

960
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: need a root canal. Right, especially now here in the US,

961
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of dentistry has been considered non

962
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: essential and people are being told to put it off.

963
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: So brushing your teeth can make things a lot less

964
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: painful for you in the long term.

965
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: And this sound this may sound kind of silly, but

966
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 3: the difference between having like brush your teeth fairly recently

967
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: and not brushing your teeth for several days and then

968
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: walking up to someone that you need help from. It

969
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: psychologically can make a difference. I'm just saying that, and

970
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: it may not necessarily be true, but it could push,

971
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: you know, push you towards success a little bit.

972
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: People are judging jerks. No, I agree with you. It

973
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: does make It does make a difference. And that's not

974
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: even being jerks. It's just maybe it's a subconscious thing.

975
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: Last two things, A survival guide. I go for military publications,

976
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: but there are a lot out there. You can also

977
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: find free PDFs for more long term stuff. But one

978
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: field manual I would recommend is FM twenty one seventy

979
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: six Survival, Evasion and Recovery from the Department of Defense.

980
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: It's a field survival guide and has a lot of

981
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: valuable information there. Also, remember all of those government published

982
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: manuals are yours. If you live in the US, you

983
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: pay taxes. That's something that you are able to read,

984
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not secret. It's not

985
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: controversial for you to get one. You can find the

986
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: free PDF and print it out. You can order a

987
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: physical copy. You can go to well it's tricky to

988
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: go to a physical bookstore now, but you can find

989
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: these easily. Last thing I would say is essential a

990
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: small notebook and some sort of writing implement for any

991
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: number of reasons, even if it's just your personal sanity,

992
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: even if you need to document important dates anything. It's

993
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: good to have one of those. It doesn't take up

994
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: much room, it doesn't weigh a lot, and it gives

995
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: you some It gives you some sort of outlet. Things

996
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: that are nice to have. We can just laundry list these.

997
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: These all sound cool.

998
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: I mentioned this earlier and actual tent with all the

999
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: things that come with her, like steaks, extra cord, to hammock,

1000
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: something like that, or just you know, a pop up

1001
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: tent whatever it is, that would be great.

1002
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, a sleeping bag and a sleeping pad, like

1003
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: you said, Nola camp stove, some sterno y, or.

1004
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: Like some nice collapsible pots and pans and cutlery. I

1005
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: mean you've seen those where they literally kind of Russian

1006
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: nesting doll inside of each other. And I believe the

1007
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: cutlery is even included in some of those collapsible sets,

1008
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. Like a small handsaw. You can

1009
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: get really compact ones of those hiking poles. I've always

1010
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: thought those were silly. But after taking a pretty significant

1011
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: hike in Los Angeles with my daughter up to Griffith

1012
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: Park Observatory, she kept seeing these folks with hiking poles

1013
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: and she became obsessed with finding a stick so that

1014
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: she could brace herself. And it really does take some

1015
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: of the stress off, you know, if you have a

1016
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: third point of contact, it's a big deal, especially if

1017
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: you're at it for a long time, or god forbid,

1018
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: you're you're injured in anyway.

1019
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I would also add, I think it's nice

1020
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: to have a burner phone. I think it's nice to

1021
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: have something that is unattached to whatever your regular phone is,

1022
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: but can also be charged by that crank charger. It's

1023
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: it's just good to have an alternative of communication.

1024
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 3: There. Gotta love those prepaid minutes he gots you.

1025
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: Although, like you know, people look askance at burner phones

1026
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: now because of everything we know from like breaking bad

1027
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 2: on the wire, But for this situation, I could totally

1028
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: see it. Ben, I have to say when I when

1029
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: I saw this next note, my mind immediately went to

1030
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: an actual tomahawk. Yeah, exactly. Or like I said at

1031
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: the top of the show, a batter rang of some

1032
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: sort or perhaps a grappling hook, but no, we're talking

1033
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: about some kind of high end GPS that doesn't need

1034
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: a continuous Internet connection that actually uses Ping's satellites. Ben

1035
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: remember when we were in the quiet zone with car

1036
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: stuff and we had one of those. It was a

1037
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: game changer. It actually was an old school garment that

1038
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: Scott Benjamin insisted on bringing along for that very reason.

1039
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: It was actually the only thing that worked when our

1040
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: phones would not work, it continued to work.

1041
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and luckily there hadn't been a lot of construction

1042
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: in that area of the world because those maps it

1043
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: was using were from the nineties. But that was amazing.

1044
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: It got us out of there. To your point about

1045
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: how you first literally thought it was a tomahawk, I

1046
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: would say I would like to recommend those some sort

1047
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: of survival shovel multi tool. They're really great. You can

1048
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: find they're like a camp shovel that can also be

1049
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: an axe or a hatchet. It folds down, it doesn't

1050
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: take a lot of weight, and it has a multitude

1051
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: of functions. So check those out. There are a couple

1052
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: of different brands. They're not all created equally, but do

1053
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: check them out. They don't belong in our lists. They're

1054
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: nice to have if you can get them. Our next

1055
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: list the list of extreme things.

1056
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: A gun or some kind of firearm, And if you

1057
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: are going to carry that with you and plan on

1058
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: using it, you're also gonna want ammunition. And how about

1059
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: a cleaning kit to make sure it would actually function

1060
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: if you did need it?

1061
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

1062
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: And then you would think of like high grade emergency

1063
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: kits for traumas, and I mean like hospital level injuries.

1064
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: A guy I know a guy who has a bullet

1065
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: wound kit. For some people, that's very extreme for him,

1066
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: it is not. We also, you know, you might run

1067
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: into people who have heavy duty painkillers opioids that would

1068
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: normally only be prescription things of that nature or very

1069
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: specific medical equipment.

1070
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: And for the advanced user. We talked about this earlier,

1071
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: how it might be useless to folks like like you

1072
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: or I, but sutures and the ability like to really

1073
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: stitch up you know, a bullet wound, like if you

1074
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: or if you needed to do that to yourself and

1075
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: keep it from getting infected. In all of that, things

1076
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: like hydrogen peroxide and then iodine and stuff you know,

1077
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: like that would really come in handy as well. And

1078
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: then we get into things like body armor that's real

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Speaker 2: extreme because that is not lightweight at all, and that

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Speaker 2: would take up a lot of room and you would

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Speaker 2: really this would be much more in that on the

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Speaker 2: lamb or being chased by the cartel kind of situation.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, absolutely, hopefully most people will not need body armor.

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Speaker 1: It's if you already have some. It's good to have it,

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Speaker 1: especially if you put it in like your house, or

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Speaker 1: you put it in your vehicle or something, but carrying

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: it around your best bed is going to be just

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00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: to be wearing it, you know, and don't try to

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Speaker 1: buy it now.

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Speaker 3: I would say, if you're a high roller, there is

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Speaker 3: some clothing that is like somewhat bullet resistant and very

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: interesting and not as heavy, but only if you're a

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Speaker 3: high roller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that stuff called? Like there's a particular type

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Speaker 2: of fabric.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I've got a tactical shirt. It made

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Speaker 3: it really is?

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Speaker 2: It made me through.

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Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Probably not my favorite thing that I've

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Speaker 3: ever purchased, but uh, you know, you can get them.

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Speaker 1: What was your price on that? If you don't mind me.

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Speaker 3: Asking, I honestly don't know. It was a gift, so

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Speaker 3: I didn't buy it. Well, I didn't buy it, but

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Speaker 3: my money was used to buy it. Oh man, that

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00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: makes sense.

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Speaker 2: There is a website called Bulletproof Zone dot com and

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Speaker 2: they have a MC armor Level concealed tank top and

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Speaker 2: it costs seven hundred and eighty nine dollars. A Bullet

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: Blocker Lightweight flight jacket is eight hundred and seventy nine dollars.

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: And then we have a Tallos Ballistics Phoenix BBL compression

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Speaker 2: tank top for one hundred and sixty four dollars, but

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Speaker 2: it is upgradeable to level three.

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Speaker 3: A Okay, so my stuff was not this expensive. Just

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00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: so you know, this is real armor.

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Speaker 2: This is deal. They got a suit jacket that's eight

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks, and then they've got like one of those

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Speaker 2: nice puffy vests there. They're referring to it as a

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Speaker 2: casual vest.

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Speaker 1: That's six. So this I would also include a list

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Speaker 1: of extreme stuff is all the action movie things that

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Speaker 1: we like to think about using when we watch Mission Impossible,

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: when we watch you know, Take In or something right.

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Speaker 1: But you unless you have been using nunchucks for years

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Speaker 1: and years and years and years, there's no reason to

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Speaker 1: keep them. You probably don't need grenades, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if you found a great deal on

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Speaker 1: some at a military surplus store. I'm calling myself out there,

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Speaker 1: don't You don't need to drive around with grenades in

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Speaker 1: your car, Which brings us to this what should not

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Speaker 1: be in your bug out bag? Honestly, a ton of

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01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: creature comforts need to go. We have to think about

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Speaker 1: that thing. Our parents always told us, the difference between

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: what we want and what we need. If you love

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01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: to read books, I read all the time. If you

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: love to read books, then take a kindle and use

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: that with your solar power charger instead of lugging around

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Speaker 1: a miniature library.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like carrying gas around could be tricky, but

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're really in a pinch and found

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: yourself needing gas, you could do that that old siphoning trick.

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Not to advocate stealing other people's gas, but absolutely could

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Speaker 2: could do that if you are really really in a

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Speaker 2: desperate situation. Carrying it around would be prohibitively heavy.

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Speaker 3: Or if you do have that extra cash on hand,

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01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: you could stop by a place that maybe has gas

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: or trade just seeing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and unless you are already in an environment where

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Speaker 1: civilization or the normal rules of the day to day

1149
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: of collapse. Don't carry anything illegal in your bag, because

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: you have to remember you're ideally gonna have this sitting

1151
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: around for a while. So if you have, for example,

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: a gun that you do not have a license to

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: carry or to transport, then don't have it in there.

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: If you have an illegal recreational drug or some sort

1155
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: of illegal medicine in there, take it out because you

1156
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: never know. You might forget about it months down the road.

1157
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: You might get in a jam if the authorities find

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: it and say like, hey, why is this I don't

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, what's a crazy drug? Like why do

1160
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: you have this jar of ether in your trunk?

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Speaker 3: Sir?

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01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you have a jar of ether? Anyway?

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's an anesthetic. I mean, maybe

1164
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: you're just thinking ahead in case you do get you know,

1165
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: shot with some you know, rock salt or something.

1166
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: Or like marijuana. If if you are in a state

1167
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: or a part of the world where that's illegal.

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: Or any any medication you do not have a prescription for.

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: Let's leave it at that, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, that's a good way to put it. So

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: there's not a here's where it gets crazy moment in

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01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: today's episode at all. We're dealing with some stuff that

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01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: can kind of crazy and frightening for people anyway. But

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: there is an important warning we have to we have

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01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: to close with it. Is this, A lot of those

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: pre made prepack survival bags are garbage garbage, full stop.

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: The supplies are cheaply made, they don't have some very

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: important components, and they're often, especially now overpriced. If you

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01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: buy one, that's fine if that's how you want to

1180
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: approach it. If you do buy one, make sure you

1181
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: go back through it with a fine tooth comb, and

1182
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared to sub out any of

1183
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: the stuff that you need, and don't be don't be

1184
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: surprised when you see a lot of disappointing stuff in

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: the bag.

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01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not to say that all of these

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01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: are complete ripoffs. There's a site that I found called

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01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: stealthangelssurvival dot com that they don't seem incredibly gougey. They've

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01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: got a lot of verified reviews. It seems like the

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: materials that are in the bags or the kinds of

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: things we're talking about, like the handwarmers or you know,

1192
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: certain flares and things like that. So as long as

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: you can guarantee that the stuff that's in there is

1194
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: the same caliber that you would buy if you bought

1195
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: each piece individually, maybe it is a fine way to go.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: But I do agree with you, Ben, I think the

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: smartest way to go is just to buy every piece yourself,

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: because then you know exactly what you're getting.

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Speaker 3: And really quickly, Guys, when you are looking to get

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01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: stuff to put in there, don't let anybody sell you

1201
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: snake oil, please, because that is something we have seen

1202
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: consistently just through making this show. That stuff exists. And

1203
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, you know, obviously not real snake oil,

1204
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 3: but just things that are too good to be true.

1205
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: There are products out there on the internet that you

1206
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: can buy right now that will fulfill a lot of

1207
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: the purposes that we've talked about in this episode, but

1208
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: a lot of them are too good to be true.

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01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, watch out for anything that is like bring clarity,

1210
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, super pills, get off the grid, you'll be

1211
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: awake for thirty six hours, You'll you'll k bone broth,

1212
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: you know. Watch out for that stuff.

1213
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: Well, and specifically kind of what you're saying there, have

1214
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 3: been about the prepackaged go bags, a lot of them. Really,

1215
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: I've seen several opened up and looked at them, and

1216
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: it's just not it's I wouldn't trust my life or

1217
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: especially my son's life with a lot of that stuff.

1218
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: And this is a really good time for us to

1219
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: be thinking about this kind of thing. But this is

1220
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: not and let me repeat this, this is not the

1221
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 3: time to go out and buy a bunch of survival supplies.

1222
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't

1223
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: don't do it. Price scouging on everything from Ammo to

1224
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: packaged food and even camping equipment is getting out of control.

1225
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: So see what you can put together at home. Write

1226
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: to us if you have any ideas life hacks about

1227
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: how to repurpose something from everyday life into your go

1228
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: bag or your go home bag. And and really I

1229
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that point you're making about price scouging, Matt like

1230
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: Ammo and specifics out of control. It always goes out

1231
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: of control when in times like these, a lot of

1232
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: packaged food, like dehydrated food. So like you see, you

1233
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: see this, this is a I'm just showing I'm just

1234
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: showing the guys here, this is a case of Mountain House.

1235
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: It's like a twelve pack case of dehydrated survival food.

1236
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: And well this is like this was bargain basement stuff.

1237
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: This was not very expensive until you know, the prices

1238
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: started jumping a few weeks ago. So if you are

1239
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: trying to buy stuff like that, remember you can you

1240
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: can get if you're buying dehydrated stuff, you can get

1241
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: some of the same deals by just finding food that's

1242
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: already dried, like dried beans or rice, and you can

1243
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: work with that.

1244
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: That's a really good point man.

1245
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Well, well we'll see. Hopefully it's a point no one

1246
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: ever has to use. But this brings us to the

1247
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: end of today's show. No, we went a little long,

1248
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: but we hope that you enjoyed it, found some constructive things.

1249
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. What's in your bugout bag?

1250
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: Let us know on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter.

1251
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: And write to us if you want to know what's

1252
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: in Paul Mission Control decans buck out bag. He's been

1253
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: making one the whole time we've been recording this episode.

1254
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 3: I could hear him in the background gathering all his materials.

1255
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: You can find us on Twitter and Facebook where we're

1256
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 3: conspiracy stuff on Instagram. We are conspiracy stuff show.

1257
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can also you know, we are also individual humans,

1258
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: all in this together. If you want to check us

1259
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: out what we're up to when we're not on the podcast,

1260
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: you can do so. I am at how Now Noel

1261
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Brown on Instagram.

1262
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: And I am at Ben Bullen on Instagram. I'm also

1263
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: at Ben bollin HSW on Twitter. Go to Twitter to

1264
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: check out a new show that I circumstances have me

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: starting called Strange News Daily. New episodes out every Monday

1266
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: through Friday. And if you have a story you'd like

1267
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: on the air, just hashtag it Strange Daily.

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01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: It's a great time for that show, Ben, because there

1269
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 2: actually is strange News literally daily.

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: It's true, hey, and it's from the creators of stuff

1271
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. And that's us.

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh god, it's the end of the world. Okay, Matt.

1273
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Some people don't like social media. How do they get

1274
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: to us?

1275
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: Well, give us a call. Our number is one eight

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Speaker 3: three three st d w y t K. Give us

1277
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,839
Speaker 3: a call, leave us a message. It will go directly

1278
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Speaker 3: to my phone and Ben and Nole's phones too. Just

1279
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: go everywhere. We will see it and we will listen.

1280
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 3: If you don't want to do that, you can always

1281
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 3: reach us the good old fashioned way, send us an email.

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:09:02,880
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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,360
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