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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: they flumming down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon

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Speaker 1: Gross Thursday eleven thirty am at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: And that can mean, let's go only one thing. It

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Speaker 1: is time for the best forty five minutes to an

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Speaker 1: hour of programming that you will hear this week. And

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Speaker 1: that is the otherwise known absolutely Hanging with the Boys. Foul.

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Speaker 1: It is good to see you again. Yeah, I am

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Speaker 1: not in the living room today. I am live from

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Speaker 1: the studio in Frisco. Do we have the weather cam,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam M. I don't think we have the weathercam anyway.

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Speaker 1: It is the s s WBC. There we go live

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Speaker 1: from Ford Center, Tostito's Plaza at Ford Center at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. It is a sunny fifty three degrees

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Speaker 1: with a light wind. It feels like forty eight degrees outside.

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Speaker 1: We have a high today of sixty one and tonight

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Speaker 1: there will be a low of thirty eight. That is

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Speaker 1: just a beautiful, beautiful sight. So nice, so nice. What

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Speaker 1: are you doing up there? Uh, trying to concentrate a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Had to get out of the house, clean

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Speaker 1: desk out. No, not not yet, not yet. I did

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Speaker 1: have my I did have my review this week with Derek,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't didn't tell me anything that I need

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Speaker 1: to know about cleaning my desk out. It just a

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Speaker 1: lot of off The key card still works, the key

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Speaker 1: the studio. So just a lot of off season planning

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Speaker 1: I was like, just go that was here yesterday, came

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Speaker 1: up today. So it's nice. Nice, nice to be up

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Speaker 1: here back in the office. So, Kurt, you got a

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Speaker 1: blue top on today, You got rid of the gray

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Speaker 1: and the draft black that you normally have on. Come

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Speaker 1: on now, no, no, you know, don't get me there.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's got the hair down, the hair dout, got the

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Speaker 1: good time shirt on. Good like it, good times? Baby? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you like the hair down? I like it? What's the

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Speaker 1: occasion you see that? Right? And go through a little

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Speaker 1: John through the trail girlier this morning? What nah, man,

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Speaker 1: I just I just felt like being pretty today, having

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Speaker 1: a little my fabio look going on. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, just it's a little a little windy outside,

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Speaker 1: so let the hair, you know what I'm saying, at

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Speaker 1: least these luxurious locks right here. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this, Yeah, well you look pretty, Nate, you look sexy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You look you look big and sad like

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Speaker 1: Kurt I got on the gray. I look like Kurt. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: still got that nice artwork? Good so well, fellow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, whatever my wife paid whatever my wife

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Speaker 1: up price. That ain't this ain't cute? This ain't this

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Speaker 1: looked like? Bye lady cowboys. Problem like a storm, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But speaking of a storm, there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot a lot going on the last week

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Speaker 1: the Eagles have requested to interview him for their head

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Speaker 1: coaching But what what job? A little bit of a

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Speaker 1: Did they get rid of what happened to their coach? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was shown the door. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they're looking for a new head coach and

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Speaker 1: apparently Kellen Moore is among the candidate. Man, can you imagine?

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Speaker 1: It was amazing? M I I you know, to anybody

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Speaker 1: that will listen, y'all know, I've been like, you told

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Speaker 1: Did we expect something like this to come down soon

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Speaker 1: But if you're the coach and you push for that,

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Speaker 1: because if you do something like this, it's it's coaching suicide.

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Speaker 1: Like you're two years later here you are going, I

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Speaker 1: And it can be a lot of confusion in that.

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Speaker 1: Dac though no he's not. But if mister Jones them

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Speaker 1: Position coaches come and go, but the one main state

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Speaker 1: All you hear is gotta play Jaila Hurts, gotta pay

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Speaker 1: that's a fact. Right this year, he's not playing good

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Speaker 1: Do you think that kind of bring this back to

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Speaker 1: Does he want to tie himself to that? Does that

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Speaker 1: Well like Jesse. More to Jesse, point is ownership, like nah,

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Speaker 1: we hired these people, General Manson, Noah, we hired the

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Speaker 1: You know it's dubbed us nuts smile Coach Keller. More

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you, a quarterback cannot and Jesse, you

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Speaker 1: slash Cowboys. All right, Dan Quinn new defensive coordinator? What

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Speaker 1: do you guys think? Just get right into it, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: while you're laughing, Oh, I'm just interested to hear what

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Speaker 1: the boys have to say here. Yeah, me too, jump

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Speaker 1: in anyone feelings thought, Nate, If you are telling me

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Speaker 1: that we have a new defensive coordinator and pass coordinator

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Speaker 1: on defense, and you're telling me that we're going to

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Speaker 1: get go out and get some players to help these coaches,

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Speaker 1: then I'm excited. But if we went out and we

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Speaker 1: went out and got these coaches and this new pass coordinator,

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Speaker 1: I only had the same type players as we had.

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Speaker 1: Full welcome me and Dan. I think he I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's obviously he's the right man for the job.

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Speaker 1: They needed to make a change, even though I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure Mike Nolan got a fair opportunity here with no offseason,

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Speaker 1: no preseason, and the talent he had on the defense,

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Speaker 1: but it was a change was probably needed. I think

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Speaker 1: there may be some concern, you know, he kind of

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Speaker 1: gets raves for his time in Seattle, but the two

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Speaker 1: years he was you know, his defenses were ranked first

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Speaker 1: the two years he was defensive coordinator in Seattle, but

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00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: they also ranked first the year before he was there,

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Speaker 1: in the year he was after he was there, they

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00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: obviously had some stud players. So you hope that translates

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Speaker 1: here with the Cowboys. But Nate's absolutely right if if

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Speaker 1: they don't have the talent for him to work with,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter who's defensive coordinator. Don't think I

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Speaker 1: agree with all of you. Um, I have to temper

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Speaker 1: my expectations because people I do. I do this is

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Speaker 1: this is homeboy higher number two, okay, um and and

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Speaker 1: so the first one let him down, right, and so

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too excited about it. The

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Speaker 1: thing I hope that Dan quinn uh he comes in

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Speaker 1: and he's he's he's able to, to Nate's point, be

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Speaker 1: able to bring in the guys that he needs to

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Speaker 1: succeed and not try to retread the guys that are

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Speaker 1: here because I see a lot of it doesn't matter scheme.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a lot of good players here.

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Speaker 1: And people are always going to reference back to the

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Speaker 1: Legion of Boom and I think I think that's unfair

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Speaker 1: because Earl Thomas ain't walking through that door, all right,

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Speaker 1: A prime Richard Sherman ain't walking through that door. Camp

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Speaker 1: Chancellor ain't walking through that door. And the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to defense, the biggest thing when it

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Speaker 1: comes to defense, in my opinion, and I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think I am, and I never think

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Speaker 1: I am. Um, we know, but the big but the big,

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing with defense is he had smart players.

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Speaker 1: Those guys were so involved in what they were doing,

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Speaker 1: the film, study, the practice, habits, the commitment to the game,

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Speaker 1: and because you can have guys who are supremely talented,

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Speaker 1: but it does me no good if you're ripped with

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Speaker 1: muscles on top of muscles, muscles coming out your eyebrows,

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Speaker 1: and you can run fast, but you're going in the

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Speaker 1: wrong damn direction. That does me no good. Right, Oh man,

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Speaker 1: he can run, he can jump, he's strong, he's physical,

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Speaker 1: but the play is going right and you're going left.

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Speaker 1: All that physicalness that you just had does me no

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Speaker 1: good because you're not even where I need you to beat.

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Speaker 1: The difference between those teams were what they were able

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Speaker 1: to do between the Ears. They were so in tune,

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Speaker 1: they were so locked in. It was a beautiful thing

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Speaker 1: to watch when you saw those guys play, and when

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look at a lot of

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Speaker 1: really good defenses, it's those players, those ed Reeves, those Polamalus,

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Speaker 1: those ray Lewises that had that team so dialed in

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Speaker 1: mentally that now I can my physical gifts shine through

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Speaker 1: and through because now I'm hitting the gap with my

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Speaker 1: full fourth speed. Now I'm covering the right zone with

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Speaker 1: my forty two months vertical. Now I'm able to lift

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Speaker 1: the house because that gap is covered up, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm able to shed and get to the ball carrier.

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Speaker 1: That is the biggest difference when you look at what

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Speaker 1: they were in Seattle and what we have here in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: It comes down to the mental part of the game.

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Speaker 1: They weren't being outrun by angles, they weren't in the

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Speaker 1: wrong gaps, they weren't busting many coverages. They were able

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Speaker 1: to communicate those things because they were so in tune

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Speaker 1: what was going on between the Ears that their talent

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Speaker 1: began to shine through all the and it was everybody.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a secondary. Those guys had the linebackers

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and that crew on point who had the

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Speaker 1: front guys own point. That whole defense was so on

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Speaker 1: point because those guys made a commitment to knowing what

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Speaker 1: they were doing. If dan Quinn can bring in guys

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Speaker 1: like that, or get guys to be focused like that

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Speaker 1: where their knowledge of the game give them an adventance,

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Speaker 1: then their talent does the rest. That That is how

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Speaker 1: you have a good defense. I wonder. I guess one

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00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: of the questions I have is that, um, this will

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Speaker 1: now be the third defensive corner coordinator in three years.

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Speaker 1: I would I would think that, you know, is management

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Speaker 1: sitting there thinking we have the players, we just don't

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Speaker 1: have the right coaching scheme because we keep making these changes.

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Speaker 1: But you're heading into another off season. It's probably not

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Speaker 1: going to be normal. You're you're limited on your your

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Speaker 1: salary cap um this year, so who knows how many

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Speaker 1: actual roster moves they can make to that defense. Um,

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Speaker 1: are they stepping back yet again? Should they have kept

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Speaker 1: that consistency? Give them another year to learn what's going

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Speaker 1: on instead of bringing now another new guy in starting

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Speaker 1: over more let you know in some ways and going

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Speaker 1: there is it going to are we looking in another year,

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Speaker 1: year of learning, in another season lost. They they are

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Speaker 1: looking at a coach that can deal in both schemes.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna be made basically a four three scheme.

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Speaker 1: It's easy for all of these guys to go back home.

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Speaker 1: They just only had six or seven months of this

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Speaker 1: physical actually physical. They zoomed the rest of those months,

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Speaker 1: but they only had six or seven months of actually

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Speaker 1: playing this high bred, nickel dyme defense. These guys can

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Speaker 1: go back to the four three much easier they can

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Speaker 1: the three four. But the bottom line is this, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: you said that they have had three coordinators in so

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Speaker 1: many years three and three, and you and you and

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Speaker 1: you'll also mentioned that maybe they thought they had the players.

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Speaker 1: We have went through a whole season. Management cannot be

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Speaker 1: thinking that they have the players. Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 1: So that right there we don't have to worry about.

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00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna have to give Dan Quinn an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to try to put his stamp on his team.

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Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, We're gonna find out what he is. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna find out what Gallimore is because it's a different

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Speaker 1: style defense, a defense that has the ability to attack

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Speaker 1: and to make things happen. You're gonna have, sir, excuse me,

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00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: but did they give Mike Nolan a chance to put

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Speaker 1: his stamp on this team because he has a two

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Speaker 1: gapping guy. He led a lot of injuries. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was just a yes, sir, but he was a

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00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: two gapping guy. He was a two gapping guy. You

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: took guys that were used to penetrating and hidden gaps

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00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: and holding their gaps to asking them to say, hey, man,

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00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: stand here and hold his guard up, a hold his center,

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: and that wasn't their thing. This is more of an

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00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: attacking type situation for these guys he had. Quinn has

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00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: dealt with great out He's better than what we have here,

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00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: are equal to what we have here. So he's gonna

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Speaker 1: look at film and he's an old defensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: That's what his first thing was with everywhere he's been

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Speaker 1: as a defensive line coach before the defensive coordinator team

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Speaker 1: became a tag. This is the deal here, my friend,

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Speaker 1: is when you look at this team and you turn

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Speaker 1: on the film and you start from the first game.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he gonna get him in South after

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00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the first game, the second game, the third game, the

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Speaker 1: fourth game to say, if we don't stop the run,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be in trump And so that is the

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Speaker 1: most important thing right now is do you have enough

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Speaker 1: horses up front to give your second, your linebackers, and

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Speaker 1: your secondary a chance. I mean we had if defensive

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Speaker 1: line had thirty five tackles, Is anyone out Divien's line

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Speaker 1: had thirty five tackles? This year's a's a miracle. I

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00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: mean Jayla had one hundred and eighty five tackles and

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Speaker 1: at the average seven yards down the field, that's the

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Speaker 1: most of the leading the league. Right that's because nobody

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Speaker 1: up front can keep the people off of him. All

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Speaker 1: the other kid regardless of whether we think they can

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00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: play or not. Our defensive line was atrocious and this

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: is where coach Quinn should have the most effect. And

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00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: because we have lost games because we couldn't stop the run.

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Speaker 1: Teams ran in the middle of the game, the beginning

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00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: of the game, and the end of the game. So

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00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and you know, so they got to get this guy

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Speaker 1: some players. They got to give him opportunity. Because what

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Speaker 1: coach Marinelli did and I and I kind of knocked him,

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Speaker 1: he did outstand the job with with with with with

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Speaker 1: not a lot of talent, and it was exposed when

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Speaker 1: coach Nolan tried to change the defense just a little bit. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: you you're You're much prettier than coach Quinn. But let's

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Speaker 1: say your coach Quinn and you come in. What are

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Speaker 1: two things? What are you doing? Immediately? What are you doing?

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: And two what are you asking for from ownership and

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Speaker 1: the head coach? First thing I'm doing if I'm coach Quinn,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming in. I'm getting on the phone and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to Sean Lee. Sean Lee DeMarcus Lawrence. Those are

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: my first two phone calls and I'm making if I

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00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: am the coach because from the outside looking in, I

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: know that Sean Lee knows what he's talking about as

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Speaker 1: far as knowing the position and knowing the defense and

607
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Speaker 1: as a leader on this team. And DeMarcus Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: going to be a guy that I have to build around.

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00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: He's going in today's point. I'm a defensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: so this is this is my this is my my

611
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Speaker 1: paid guy. He's going to be here. So I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to these two guys first. Once I have

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: that convention with these two guys, and I kind of

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Speaker 1: get an honest, a set sment from those two guys

615
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Speaker 1: of what did you guys think, What was some of

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: the things that was concerned for you, What was some

617
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: of the things that you like that you didn't like?

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Speaker 1: Where would you want to improve on? Asking those questions

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Speaker 1: to the guys that I feel like are the leaders

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Speaker 1: of this team on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and then on time the next step. I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Jerry and the Stephen and Will McClay and I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: here's what I need. I need this. I'm giving Will

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: McClay and I'm giving the Joneses the type of athlete

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00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking for at every position at defensive line, at

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Speaker 1: at linebacker, at safety. This is the temperament, this is

627
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: the range. These are the players. And if there are

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: some guys that I've coached in the past and please

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Speaker 1: people do not what do they call? What do they say?

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Speaker 1: N in date my timeline with Earl Thomas, talk stop.

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Speaker 1: But there's going to be guys who if he coached

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00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: to in the past that I'm saying, player player, player,

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Speaker 1: player player. All these guys are coming up in free

634
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: agency or these guys are guys that you know, if

635
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: we can find a way to get these guys here

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Speaker 1: relatively cheap. I would love to have these guys. And

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Speaker 1: they don't have to be starters. They don't have to

638
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: be starters, but they could be rotational guys that can

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Speaker 1: come in and be my voice in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: can show the other guys. This is how coach Quinn rolls. No.

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Speaker 1: This is what he meant when he said this no, no,

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: in this scheme. If you do it this way, that's

643
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: how it's done. So you want to bring in guys

644
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: like that and then getting ready for the draft and

645
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: putting our heads together. And I figured out a way

646
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: that we can say, here's my priorities. Here are the guys,

647
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: college guys, free asent guys. Here's what I'm looking for.

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00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to work. Can they inundate you? Can they

649
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: inundate you with Richard Sherman talk. They cannot inundate me

650
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: with anything old lesion a boom talk. Okay, nothing unless

651
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: what Sherman is coming to be a a dB assistant

652
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, if he's coming to be a coach,

653
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: if he's coming to be a dB coordinator, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call him assistant coordinator to the coordinator to

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Speaker 1: that assistant. That's it. If you're not if you're not

656
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: talking about if you're talking about anything with those guys

657
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: who are on the legion of a boom that playing,

658
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: do not inundate me or I will block you. So, Nate, Nate,

659
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: you said nobody over twenty seven. So no, no old

660
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: guys on this team? Right? What? What? What? What if

661
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: you get a guy that's twenty eight, twenty nine, he

662
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: has to be a impact. He has to know this

663
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: defense in and out, or we see where he fits

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Speaker 1: into this defense and he can be an impact. What

665
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: you need Now it's one or two impact players. You

666
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: have to Marcus Lawrence. You have Randy Gregor who has

667
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: a chance to be an impact. Okay, on your second level,

668
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: you're praying and hoping that one of these guys was

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00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: sitting down and look at film and say okay, and

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00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Jayalen or either Van Dash look at

671
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: him and said, okay, I have I have to get better.

672
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: I really have to get better. And you got a

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00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: secondary and believe it or not, Donovan Wilson is the

674
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: best we got. Now you can talk about the corner

675
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: from Bama Donover Wilson is the best beefensive back. We

676
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: got sot a lot of fellows. And that's what I'm saying.

677
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I said. What you what I just said,

678
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: believe it or not. And so now you gotta still

679
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: look at two safeties in a corner. So n Quinn

680
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: what I read, he's he's placed a lot of value

681
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: on safeties. Obviously had two great ones in Seattle. This

682
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: organization probably long time, has not placed much value on safeties.

683
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able? Do you think they're gonna

684
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: listen to him? Is he gonna be able to change

685
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: that philosophy? Asked? You asked the super great? Why would

686
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: you bring it, Kurt? If we just gonna get an

687
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: if we're gonna if we're just gonna get another puppet, Yeah,

688
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna get another puppet and let somebody else pulling

689
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: their strength. Why why we even don't waste this man time?

690
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking at free agent list for safeties

691
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: right like I'm looking at I'm looking at guys. He

692
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: had a guy in in Kean O'Neill in Atlanta. Now

693
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Keano was hurt a lot, but this was a guy

694
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, was really good. A guy like

695
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: Malik Hooker who will be an under arm respector free

696
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: agent from Indianapolis is another free agent type guy. Uh

697
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: Andrewson Dajoe free agent guy know he was here before.

698
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Marcus May Marcus Marcus May from the Jets will be

699
00:40:53,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: a free agent. Was another one. Uh Thomas H Richard Sherman, No, No,

700
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Tyshawn Tyshawn Gibson from Chicago is another one who would

701
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: be a free agent this offseason. So now those guys

702
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: may be looking to get paid as I'm looking to

703
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: see if I see anymore. Um, you know, those guys

704
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: are looking to get paid. What they need, Jesse, What

705
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: they need, I think is we need a safety that

706
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: can sit back in the hole and line folks up

707
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: and be able to get back to them deep thirds

708
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: when things just named you a couple and the thing

709
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I understand what you're saying, but I want

710
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: to explain to the fans, we we got guys that

711
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: can fall down in the box. If we have any

712
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: type defensive line, we got guys can fall down into

713
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: the box. We need this guy that can get over

714
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: the top and be a difference maker over the top

715
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: so I'm saying it's Jesse is Is speaking of these guys.

716
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: You fans go out there and look, say, hey what,

717
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: this may be the guy. This may be the guy.

718
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: But I'm tired of having all the We don't have

719
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: like eighteen box safeties up and then we only need

720
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: no more box safeties. We need a free that can

721
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: get over the top and bat down some of these

722
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: deep balls or get some interceptions. All right, let's take

723
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Speaker 1: our last break. When we come back, we turn the

724
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: show over to Kurt Daniels. He gave me a ton

725
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726
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Speaker 1: the last segment of the show. We need to recognize

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Speaker 1: a couple of people that got a year older within

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Speaker 1: the last week. Our very own Chris being the producer

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00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: of the show, and Jesse Holly both had birthdays within

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Speaker 1: this past week. Both of them are fifty two years

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00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: old as of this week. Yes, so happy birthday, fellas.

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Speaker 1: How does it feel? Thank you? Every day I wake up,

778
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm finding like these new graves, like all in my beard.

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00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: They just like dude, every time I turn around, like dang,

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Speaker 1: it starts in the beard. That's where mine started. Now

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00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm getting up seeing one or two on the head

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00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: and so starts in the beard. There you go. Started

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Speaker 1: somewhere else? Oh, I don't want to know. Could go

784
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot of different directions with that, Kurt take over. Man,

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00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: you got fifteen minutes. The show is yours? What are

786
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: we talking about? We had a we had a fan

787
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: reach out to us too, with John Nelson when I

788
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: forgot about that John Nelson from overseas from the UK,

789
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: our guy when we went over to London. I guess

790
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: that was eight years ago now probably eight years yeah,

791
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: right at eight years ago when we played over there.

792
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: We did some shows over there and John came out

793
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: to the show. We met John and he stays in

794
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: touch with us on Twitter and tries to get all

795
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: of us to watch soccer and none of us will

796
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: do it. Thanks keep trying, John, maybe one day, but

797
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: happy birthday. I think Charles Hayley daughter Madison was drafted

798
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 1: in either the supplement or draft or the regular draft

799
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: in the sixth round soccer from Stafford. Oh wow, nice nice, Yeah,

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00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I saw us hated the daughter Madison. Yeah, speaking of soccer,

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00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: there you go some fun facts. So go ahead, Kurt. Well,

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00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: we got hit with that this morning. Jesson, he let

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00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: me tell you about yall. I he texts me that

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00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: and I made a mistake of calling him after he

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Speaker 1: talked about his daughter for two seconds. He cussed me

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Speaker 1: out for thirty five. Really, I'm sorry to believe what

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00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Jesse said about you, Charles. I'm just saying I will

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00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: talk about your friend though I don't want to. I

809
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to know you can

810
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: because everybody else talk about him and they love him

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Speaker 1: and talk about Hey. Speaking speaking of speaking of friends, Nate,

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00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: you know what you should do one of these shows.

813
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: You should get Don on here as a recruiting bit.

814
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Get him on the show for a segment and he

815
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: can talk to the kids and try to recruit and

816
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: then we can abuse Don for fifteen minutes. I gotta

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00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: I was you know, I should have. I'll be up

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00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: there next week. What I gotta do is planet while

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00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm up at Jackson State. Yeah, I was there just

820
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: this a couple of days. But I just drove it

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00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: up for the fun of it and uh and hung

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00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: out with him for baby an hour or two as

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00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I did a show for George t up there. So uh. Yeah,

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00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I'll try to set it up man and uh and

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00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: pray that he comes on and he's so important now

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00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: that he's a real head coach. Really, hey, before before

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00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: Kurt takes it over? Wait, time out? Time about time

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Speaker 1: about you drove to Jackson, Mississippi for an hour? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not winning for a couple of that's when I

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00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: drove back. I'm on my witness said, when I get

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Speaker 1: off the show, I'm on my way to Tennessee. That

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm gone. Ain't That's what I was. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was going. I don't, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Hang Yeah, if I don't really know you, like some

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Speaker 1: of my friends and relatives, I'd be like, I wait,

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Speaker 1: I'll go to the house and blow the horns and hey,

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Speaker 1: am I in front yard? I'll wave at him. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, ain't good to see you and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you drove eight I was just just wave at me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm COVID. So yeah, I'm just gonna That's what I

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00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you before Kurt takes it over. You

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Speaker 1: said on the show when it was the season was over,

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Speaker 1: you were gonna drive. Where all have you been? How

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850
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I want to give you cash in

851
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: your hand. You didn't realize. Yeah, So I gave you

852
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: and I got did Shannon? I gave you, so I did.

853
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: I've been to Tallahassee, Florida. I've been to jackson Mississippi.

854
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: And I'm taking off after I get off this show

855
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: one day. Can I can? Can I commission you because

856
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: I need to. I got two stories. I got the stories.

857
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: Been in New Jersey, right have another store has been

858
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: in North Rightline I'll go with you. I would even

859
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: go with you a shotgun. But can I commission you

860
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: to drive to Jersey, then North Carolina and then back

861
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: to text with myself? Yeah? Yeahs long as it ain't

862
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: snowing now, I got I got one roo. If it's

863
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: more than a light flurry, I don't best frond snow

864
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: hold up, I'd be like, Babe, ain't coming home. It's schnowing.

865
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm blocking down, grizzly, locking down. Baby. I want

866
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I want end on that trip. If y'all do it,

867
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I want end, that would be real. Let's do the

868
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: show up there. Let's do it next. We can do

869
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: the show up there. I mean, let's go. I mean

870
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: I need a little bit more time to play than that,

871
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: but let's let's let's I need to go. I need

872
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: to get it. Let's get the RV man, I need

873
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: to get it. Let's go a fun twn RV. Let's go.

874
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I'll set it up. Brett. Jefferies were calling you after

875
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: the show sponsored trip. Let's go, all right, Kurt, we

876
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: to be doing something, Shannon. We're can do a show

877
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: of Roseale, New Jersey, and then Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

878
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: Let's do it so so we gotta stay, we gotta

879
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: make it a two week trip. And then Chris Beam

880
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: just said in my ear we got hit every trailer

881
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: park on the way up and back and trouble and

882
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: trailer poxon Joseph. Baby, Yeah, we have Pastor Mason Dixon

883
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: for that, Kurt you got. I didn't pick. I didn't

884
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: pick that trailer pass fetish up until after I got

885
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: the most. Kurt you down tonight supposed to be doing

886
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: some shin sir, dude, Come on, Rol, what are you

887
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be talking about. Well, it's more fun to

888
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: hear about you talking about your road trips and cowboys stuff.

889
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Now we're done cowboys. Yeah, man, take it over, Kurt,

890
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: what we're talking about? Take it over, Kurt? Oh man.

891
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I actually did have a question for you, for you

892
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: guys and Jesse. You had mentioned it earlier about talking

893
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: to Sean Lee. Is there a chance they make him

894
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: a coach a linebacker's coach, and what's that like? As players?

895
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: If you know, if you've you've had a teammate who yeah,

896
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: he's helping you, he's telling you what you do, but

897
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: he's sort of a you know, a comrade, in arms

898
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: to now becoming immediately a head coach where he's yelling

899
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: at you to do this stuff. Does that work? Does

900
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: that work for a players? It works for guys who

901
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: have the respect. And I like to believe that Sean

902
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Lee has the respect of these guys. And the thing

903
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee is because he's been in the trenches

904
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: with him, he knows how, he knows how to position himself.

905
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: They Okay, for this guy, I gotta kind of coddle

906
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: him a little bit, but get my message across this guy.

907
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: I can just jump down his butt and he'll get it.

908
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: This guy gotta gotta walk through a little bit. So

909
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: you have to have the right respect in order for

910
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: that to happen. And I think these guys look at

911
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Sean Lee as someone as big brother, as big uncle

912
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: who they have the respect from him. So if he

913
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: transitioned from player to coach, I don't think it would

914
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: be difficult for players to listen to what he says

915
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: because he's shown improved time and time again. I know

916
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: what the heck I'm talking about. I know what's going on,

917
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: and he's not a hard guy to follow to want

918
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: to follow. As long as Dad didn't come back and

919
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: play linebacker, right, yeah, I don't think that will work.

920
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: That might that might be rich. Yeah, I tell you

921
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: ladies right here, man, I have always admired Sean Lee,

922
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: and the quicker he getting into coaching, the better it

923
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: will be for him if he wants to do that,

924
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: and for the team, because I think we need to

925
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: free up that spot. I'm not crying. I talked to

926
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: bury Church, and bury Church talk s Lee every nine.

927
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: And then you can see on film, Jesse, I know

928
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: you can't. You can see on film where Sean Lee

929
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: will be calling something out and he'd be like, be alert.

930
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: You can see him calling it out, but his legs

931
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: won't let him get there. Yeah, and if he played now,

932
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: he'll play one or two games. But man, Sean Lee

933
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: is killing folks. But you can bet that third game

934
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be killing folks. And that's just that's because

935
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: he's he's been through it. He's been through it and

936
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: his and his body's not gonna hold up. So if

937
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to take away that spot

938
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: from developing a young guy and getting this thing gone.

939
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: We looked at the tight end position and we all said, wow, look,

940
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: how great this kid doing well. Guess what we could

941
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: have learned the year earlier if we didn't have somebody

942
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: else on the team taking up their time in that spot.

943
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: You got to learn to move on as coaches, then

944
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: as an organization. You know what, Yes you are great,

945
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: but try it from this capacity, Try it from this perspective.

946
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Let us have players on this field as young, strong

947
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: and can get there and will let you help them

948
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: be better players? And Kurt Beam Beam just told me

949
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: that that win did it right after he retired oh

950
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: seven to oh nine. He was assistant linebacker Sean Interesting. Yeah,

951
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: well I wonder what Len he when he got him

952
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: a Chick fil A and making triple him without the bruces. Yeah.

953
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Would Lee help help Quinn's transition with he helping that

954
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: and like you said, Jesse, knowing the players and all that,

955
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: or would he be like Quinn, I don't want this

956
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: old voice. I want a new message. That sort of thing.

957
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: He can't help Quinn. Quinn can help him. H Claire,

958
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: did did you know the first not go back to Dion?

959
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: He wanted me to say something to the kids. And

960
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: the first thing, the only thing I can think about

961
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: is the only thing I've been thinking about since this

962
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: season is over with is I told these kids, if

963
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: you're not buying in, get off the team. If these

964
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: guys are not gonna buy into what coach Quinn is

965
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: selling here, we got the same thing we had with Nola,

966
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: We got the same thing we had at the end

967
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: of Jayson and Garrett. If you're not buying in, I

968
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: don't need you on my team. You least have to

969
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: give me a maximum effort for three or four games

970
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: before so I can see what you can and cannot do.

971
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: You just can't walk up to Jane Slayers and look

972
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: at Jane just do it. Ain't got it. That don't work. Brother,

973
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: You didn't even try to give it a chance. But

974
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: that's why I think Shan Lee could help and can

975
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: help Dan Quinn is if Sean Lee was on the

976
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: other side. As far as the coaching perspective, I think

977
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: Sean has enough relationship equity built up to help guys

978
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: understand well he can go to him and say, listen, man,

979
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: like you really got to buy into this, Like this

980
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: is going to be good for you. Like I've seen

981
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: the entire plan of what they planned on doing. I

982
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: see what they want from you, but it's a little

983
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: different than you may you know you may have done before.

984
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: But trust me, if you just trust this process, if

985
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: you just allow this thing to all up, it's going

986
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: to be beneficial for you. So he has that ability

987
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: to come and talk to these guys and saying, man,

988
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: you know like hey, you know you want to do

989
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: is make sure you're your gap and when this dude

990
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: run into you, you may lack that if you side.

991
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, Manna, now go out get

992
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: Sean Lee as your coach. Let him have some fresh

993
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: blood to work with and those that don't want to

994
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: be I'm telling you, man, when Jimmy Johnson came in

995
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: here and I can't just use that when when when

996
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I even with coach and Andrew, if you're not buying

997
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: in and you're not willing to give me maximum two

998
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: or three games, so I can see how to fit

999
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: these things around you because coaches, the Swart coach is

1000
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna fit the scheme to what you can do. But

1001
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: when you when you three or four games in and

1002
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: you just then gave up the goals. Yeah, man, I'm

1003
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: telling you man, brother, I believe in Shannon, I believe

1004
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: in Jesse I believe in Kurt, I believe in Chris,

1005
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: and we all bring something different. But Shannon juggles us

1006
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: and we move out to the well of each other

1007
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: so we can all be good. Get get them Eagles

1008
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: out of that locker room, and get you some players

1009
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: in that locker room. I guess the last question it's

1010
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: again talking about the sort of the transition that the

1011
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: word is they're gonna hire this Joe wet Junior to

1012
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: be the passing game coordinator. He was with Quinn and Atlanta,

1013
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: he was with McCarthy and Green Bay. Is he gonna

1014
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: serve as kind of like a bridge maybe between those

1015
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: two to kind of to find that common ground in communication?

1016
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: He says. Jess brought up the homebood theory. Go ahead on,

1017
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: I just come come on, Joe, come on, Joe, man,

1018
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: don't don't don't let your boy down. Man, don't let

1019
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: don't let your boy freaking right down. I just my

1020
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: thing is is that Mike has brought in more people

1021
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: he trust, and my hope is my k on Joe

1022
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: witt Uh, that they're able to sit together and and

1023
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: and formulate plans and ideas and concepts and rosters that

1024
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: will best suit. What they have in the house and

1025
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: what they're able to bring in that that is my hope.

1026
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't I do not know. I do not know.

1027
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: I do not know, but I am pray and I

1028
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: am hoping this combination translator he can he can simplify

1029
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: the translator to young guys where they can understand it.

1030
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: That that is what I hear, you know, And I

1031
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: got that from Bucky. Bucky Brooks. He said that this

1032
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: guy's a better translator. He can make it easier to

1033
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: diegest for the players. So I'm bro I got to

1034
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: be able to I can still want to be able

1035
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: to plant my flag on some other stadium. Joe, we

1036
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: don't we don't we don't need, we don't need a

1037
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: top ten defense, Joe. We just need somewhere around fourteen fifteen,

1038
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. We just need. We just don't need to

1039
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: be in the twenty nine area. I'm so glad that

1040
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: they hired coach McCarthy to be the coach. Not because

1041
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna take us to the Promised Land,

1042
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: which I still have high hopes. I still think that's

1043
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: a real possibility, but for the simple fact that they

1044
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: hired Jesse's guy, and the team has not done what

1045
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: the team should be doing, and Jesse is he is

1046
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: begging to not be proven raw every show, but he's

1047
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: got to keep it real and he's got to talk

1048
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: about like, Okay, it'sn't working out how I thought I

1049
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: got my guy. So we're going into the year number

1050
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: two and he is now bagging the passing game coordinator

1051
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: on defense to be the lynchpin in this whole. This

1052
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: brings me joy. So I am huh, this is gonna

1053
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: be a fun year. So you know, I just hope

1054
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: I hope that. Uh, I hope this all works out. Man.

1055
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: I hope we're sitting here. I hope we're sitting here

1056
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: a year from now making a run in the playoffs.

1057
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: They get the players that Nate wants, they do what

1058
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: what Jesse saying they need to do, and everything just

1059
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Speaker 1: starts clicking. You. You've got to the coaches do what

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Speaker 1: they tell us they're gonna do at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the year. You know, that's I think that was a

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Speaker 1: big thing this year. On defenses. We got told one thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, this time of year last year, and then

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Speaker 1: the whole season started it with something completely different. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll see fellas. I'm telling you man right now,

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Speaker 1: I got the Cowboys at ten and six. Bro, he's

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Speaker 1: old Tennessee. And you know what, by the time, by

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Speaker 1: the time training camp gets here, they'll have six more

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Speaker 1: wins and six we know how this story is. I'm

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Speaker 1: just sad bad, I got just oh. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what happened to date, but anyway, we gotta go. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we will lie. We'll give it. You know what, We'll

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Speaker 1: have a h Okay, we're back. We got Nate. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get out of here. I don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 1: but if you get out of your Kurt. Good seeing you, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: good seeing you. You're looking good. Keep the hair down, Nate,

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Speaker 1: good seeing you. Yeah, Man, being place for keeping us

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Speaker 1: on the ny Birthday, Fellows, we'll be back the same

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Speaker 1: place next week. Hanging with the Boys peace. This has

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