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Speaker 1: to the Herd podcast. Ah, welcome back. It is a

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Speaker 1: Friday at this hour or two. I'm telling you, this

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Speaker 1: new college football world got me all geeked up. Miami Hurricanes, Braby,

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Speaker 1: the swag is back, Tredd d Chamblis, Oregon in their

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Speaker 1: amazing uniforms, and then there's Indiana. This is crazy. Had

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Speaker 1: so much fun yesterday. I don't know what my new

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Speaker 1: Year's resolution is gonna be. I don't think eating four

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Speaker 1: giant chicken enchiladas was on my bingo card, but that's

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Speaker 1: what I did yesterday. I just ate all day and

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Speaker 1: am gloriously happy for it. So last week we took

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Speaker 1: all dogs. I don't do that a lot, at least

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Speaker 1: this year, and we were two and three. Let's end

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Speaker 1: our blazing five. We've had a good year, fifty eight

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Speaker 1: point three percent. Let's end it on a strong note.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up right up, It's Collins blazon fuck

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Speaker 2: Seahawks at forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Winner gets the number one seed. I like Seattle minus

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Speaker 1: one and a half. They've won ten of their last

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Speaker 1: eleven games. They're only lost two points on the road

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. They've been a great road team. Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold five and one against his former teams. I like

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Speaker 1: the more athletic, younger, deeper roster JSN back to back

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Speaker 1: one hundred yard games against the Niners. Secondary. We know

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Speaker 1: Seattle on the road is really good, almost better than

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Speaker 1: they are at home. San Francisco is one in three

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Speaker 1: against the Rams, Texans and Jags this season. Second game

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Speaker 1: on short rest defense, it's just not very good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you saw Caleb Williams tear it apart. I think Seattle

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Speaker 1: controls a lot of the time of possession and wins close.

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Speaker 1: I'll swallow the point and a half. Seahawks went on

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Speaker 1: the road, as they often do. Twenty seven to twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Brown said Fingals. I've been taking the Bengals recently a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I like him here. They're coming off back to

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Speaker 1: back twenty ploys twenty point dominating wins. They've scored thirty

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Speaker 1: plus points in for their last five games. Burrow's always

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Speaker 1: been good in December and January, go back to when

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Speaker 1: he started, and the offense is not turning the ball

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Speaker 1: over back to back games. Burrow and the Bengals give

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Speaker 1: them credit. They don't have anything to play for, but

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Speaker 1: they're playing like they do. And the Browns offense is

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Speaker 1: turnover prone. Shador Sanders seven picks over his last three games.

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Speaker 1: Judkins is out in Joco and Fan and the tight

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Speaker 1: ends who are good are all banged up. Shaduor Sanders

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Speaker 1: against Burrow feels like a major, major disadvantage. I like

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Speaker 1: the Bengals to win and cover thirty to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Lions at Bears.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Bears minus two and a half at home.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, even going back to last year, has always

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Speaker 1: been good at Soldier Field. They've won six straight home games.

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Speaker 1: Number three rushing offense and the Lions cannot stop the run.

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Speaker 1: in three straight games. This matchup favors Chicago again. Caleb

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Speaker 1: Detroit what are they playing for? Twenty third ranked defense.

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Speaker 1: I like Chicago's ability to run the football consistently setting

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Speaker 1: Take the Bears to win and cover. Twenty eight to

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Speaker 1: LA lost to Atlanta, and Sean McVay said after, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're twelve and one this year. When they have one

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Speaker 1: Week ten. Arizona's got the worst scoring defense. So again,

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Speaker 1: when Stafford's under pressure, he's one quarterback. When Stafford is comfortable,

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Speaker 1: Here's my one underdog. I think it's close. I'm going

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Speaker 1: last eleven meetings with these two teams have been one

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Speaker 1: I think they win late. I'm taking the hook Baltimore

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Speaker 1: observation thoughts. I don't take a lot of favorites last week.

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Speaker 1: I have most of the year. The Rams generally I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like your Rams case. I'm gonna be backing

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Speaker 3: Bears game. Very interesting revenge spot for the Bears. Remember

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Speaker 3: they got smoked by thirty in Detroit earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: But Dan Campbell his guys don't pack it in and

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Speaker 3: mail it in week eighteen one two three can Coon.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't operate like that. I don't know what to

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Speaker 3: you know, other than San Frana, I like everything.

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Speaker 1: I know that all right, here we go RG three,

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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third is joining us live. I love

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Speaker 1: that it can do NFL in college. So I got

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Speaker 1: to start with this because we both love college. But

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Speaker 1: what's great to see again? Happy Holidays, Happy New Year

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Speaker 1: to your beautiful family. I gotta tell you is I

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Speaker 1: Ohio States. Last two games, Ryan Day takes over the play.

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Speaker 1: They score ten and fourteen, And I think Ryan's a

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Speaker 1: great coach, but I think it's very difficult to suddenly

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Speaker 1: but I think some of it is that's a weird

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Colin, You're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 5: It's a very weird transition, especially when you haven't been

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Speaker 5: doing it the entire season. So you know, you see

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Speaker 5: some of these teams, you know, Ole Miss, you know what,

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Speaker 5: Charlie Weist Junior, you know, allowing him to continue to

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Speaker 5: when your head coach has been mostly focused on managing

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Speaker 5: we want you to call plays that you haven't. You

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Speaker 5: haven't done this all season, in a number of seasons.

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Speaker 5: That's why I think. You know, Brian Hartline, you know,

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Speaker 5: been great if he could have continued on for Ohio

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Speaker 5: They didn't in Miami took advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: What do you make, Fernando Mendoza, I know it's college,

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Speaker 1: a little corny after games, but I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: size matters. He's big. His receiving core is Becker cashes everything.

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Speaker 1: I love Mendoza. You know, I'm an old school I

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Speaker 1: like my quarterbacks, you know, to be more formal and

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Speaker 1: traditional and kind of you know, thank you and please,

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Speaker 1: And I know, what do you make of him?

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Speaker 5: No, I love Fernando Mendoza because Banana Mendoza knows who

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Speaker 5: he is. And I've seen some of the memes of

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Speaker 5: like he sounds like chat GBT when you ask him.

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Speaker 4: A question after a game. It's funny. It really is funny.

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Speaker 5: But the thing I love about him is he's going

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Speaker 4: Goes, goes fourteen to sixty. He doesn't throw the football

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Speaker 5: Why because Kaylen Black and Roman Himby went off and

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Speaker 5: literally ran over Alabama. So I love Fernando. I think

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Speaker 5: he's the first round pick. I think he's a top

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Speaker 5: ten pick. I think coaches are gonna love him. He's

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Speaker 5: a big kid. Like you said, size does matter. But

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Speaker 5: he can make every throw on the field, and he's

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Speaker 5: not afraid of the big moments.

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Speaker 4: So when you have a rookie.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback coming in, those coaches are like art, is he

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Speaker 5: gonna do what I ask him to do? Can he

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Speaker 5: make plays that maybe aren't there? With his arm, talent

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Speaker 5: save a franchise because he's, you know, super dynamic, off

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Speaker 5: schedule play type guy. No, but if you work with

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Speaker 5: win you a Super Bowl. So I really do like

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Speaker 5: Brenana Mendoz and I think with him and Kurz Signett

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Robert, with the transfer portal, it

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Speaker 1: is it takes a while to bring in eleven new guys,

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Speaker 1: nine starters. Like I watched Miami lose Louisville. I didn't

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Speaker 1: moment to me when I bought into Miami was when

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Speaker 1: to Pitt and I'm like, oh, thirty eight seven. I

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Speaker 1: started looking at common opponents with Notre Dame and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: they're different, They're different. I think Miami matches up with Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make about that? Because I

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Speaker 1: think Indiana and Miami just feel like that is it's destined.

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Speaker 1: I've watched Indiana go to Otson and really roll Oregon.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of this Miami story this year,

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Speaker 1: how they lost a Louisville and SMU and were just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think your point about Miami. It really became

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Speaker 5: something for me when they decided we're not going to

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Speaker 5: be the Carson Beck led Miami Hurricanes.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: They paid them a bunch of money reports of four

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Speaker 5: a national championship. And I think Mario Christaball and their

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Speaker 4: Not that Carson Beck can't do it.

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Speaker 5: But the way our team is built and how we're

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Speaker 5: built at the skill positions and in the trenches is

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Speaker 4: And I think that's that's really any of us.

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Speaker 5: You get a brand new toy, you want to play

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Speaker 5: that tour the feature. But sometimes you got to go

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair because Georgia put thirty four on them,

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Speaker 4: This guy's story is incredible.

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Speaker 5: You know, D two national champion at Fair State, zero

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Speaker 5: His story is phenomenal. The fact that Lane Kiffen isn't

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Speaker 4: Look a look at New Orleans, right. The owner loves

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Speaker 4: He's confident.

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald has one of the most special arms I've

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Speaker 4: And I've known him since high school.

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Speaker 5: It's just not true unless you're just a physical specimen

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Speaker 5: That doesn't make any sense anymore. Every quarterback has to

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Speaker 1: So the the enigma of the season has been Baltimore

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Speaker 5: And that's what's the most important thing here. If Lamar

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Speaker 5: lost a step, he'd go run for one point fifty.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of what I see from Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 5: in the way that.

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Speaker 4: He is motivated.

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Speaker 5: He is somewhat motivated to prove people wrong, but also

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Speaker 5: to prove himself right. So I don't think they trade him.

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Speaker 5: I think he goes out and he plays well in

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Speaker 5: this game against the Steelers, and he kind of forces

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin to either have to take a TV job

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Speaker 5: or for the Steelers to realize that what they have

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Speaker 5: in Mike Tomlin is greater.

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Speaker 4: And maybe they're not appreciating him as well.

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Speaker 5: But I'm definitely rocking with the Ravens in this game,

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Speaker 5: and I think Lamar Jazz is going to prove all

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Speaker 5: those daughters wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, these stories come out. I mean, the guy

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore that works for the Sun is a longtime

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Speaker 1: beat reporter, and I'm like, what am I to make

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Speaker 1: of that story? And so I think it's fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: think your depth of knowledge in the organization. I have

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Speaker 1: said this before about Lamar is that I would and

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Speaker 1: I felt this way about Elway and Denver. There are

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Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks that play for a franchise, but they don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily feel like the city. They're just really good players.

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Speaker 1: They play forever whatever.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 1: I love Brady, but Brady would go vacation over in Europe,

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Speaker 1: He'd hang out in New York. I didn't feel like

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Speaker 1: he felt like Boston. He was just great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no quarterback in the league that feels

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Speaker 1: I bet that's more popular within the city, the area

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Speaker 1: codes of the city than Lamar Jackson. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the most popular quarterback if you did a poll every

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Speaker 1: team in the league. Maybe Mahomes is up there because

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Speaker 1: of his success. So when you were there, do you

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Speaker 1: believe that to be true?

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's one hundred percent true, and he is

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Speaker 4: the city. Like, let's be real. You go to.

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Speaker 5: Baltimore and uh, you know, when I got drafted to Washington,

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Speaker 5: they call it Chocolate City. Okay, Well, if Washington, DC

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Speaker 5: is chocolate city, then god name Baltimore must be dark chocolate.

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Speaker 4: City or something.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at the city and how they operate,

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Speaker 5: how how rugged the city is, how tough the city is,

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson bodies all those things and when he comes

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Speaker 5: in the number one thing the Ravens did his rookie

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Speaker 5: year when I was there, I was there for with

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Speaker 5: Lamar for three seasons, you know, blessing honor to be

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Speaker 5: able to mentor him and see him go win MVPs

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Speaker 5: and really take over that team in the city from

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl Champions to Bowl MVP Jo Flacco. They never

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Speaker 5: tried to change Lamar. They never tried to change the

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Speaker 5: way he talked. They never tried to change the way

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Speaker 5: he were, his hair, they never tried to change the

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Speaker 5: way that he dressed. They allowed Lamar Jackson to be

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. I, for one in my career, didn't have

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Speaker 5: that same experience. But what I loved was that this

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Speaker 5: is who we drafted, This is who we want you

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Speaker 5: to be. We want you to be Lamar Jackson that

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Speaker 5: embodies the city, the city cling to that and he

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Speaker 5: is like his jersey sales are crazy, and it's because

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Speaker 5: he has never changed who he is to try to

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Speaker 5: fit into something. The Raven said, you know what, We're

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Speaker 5: not going to put a square peg in a round hole.

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Speaker 4: We're going to.

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Speaker 5: Allow you to go be fully who you are. And

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Speaker 5: that's why he's been so successful. So yes, is he playful?

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Speaker 5: Does he lead in a different way? Huntred percent? But

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Speaker 5: that locker room would die for him because they know

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Speaker 5: that he's got their back.

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Speaker 1: Robert, great stuff on a Friday, It's gonna be glorious

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Speaker 1: college football yesterday, excellent weekend. Seahawks and the Niners, Box Panthers,

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Speaker 1: Raven Steelers mean a lot. Great standios, Olas my man,

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Speaker 1: Happy holidays.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you brother, thanks for having me on you the

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Speaker 4: best come.

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Speaker 1: Buy college football, pro football. You knows them both. I'm

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Speaker 1: in a name today, you know how j Mac Time

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Speaker 1: magazine has their person of the Year. I'm naming my

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Speaker 1: person of the Year in the NFL. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: Person of the Year of the NFL. Can I get

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Speaker 3: a guess or two?

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Speaker 1: No, no guesses.

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Speaker 3: It's Brock Purdy. Did he make the final? Nobody from

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Speaker 3: the Jets. We can eliminate them obviously.

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Speaker 7: Oh, this should be fun.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's the hurt.

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Speaker 3: This is the Herdline News. Let's go to the Dallas

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Colin. Interesting little brush fire on the interwebs over

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Speaker 3: the last forty eight hours because of the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 3: and an interview that Matt Eberflus gave, he was asked

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Speaker 3: many questions about his future in Dallas and how the

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Speaker 3: Micah Parsons trade changed things for his approach.

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Speaker 7: Here's what he said.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it changed that much.

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Speaker 8: You know, obviously you're you have an all pro pass

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Speaker 8: rusher that wins really quick.

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Speaker 3: That's certainly going to help any defense, if it's micaeh

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Speaker 3: or if it's Miles or whoever that might be.

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Speaker 9: That's that that impact player is always going to help,

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Speaker 9: you know to a certain degree, you know, in past

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Speaker 9: downs and other downs.

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Speaker 4: But you know, you can't look back.

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Speaker 7: So here's what happened next, Colin.

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Speaker 3: So, Michael Parsons obviously saw this on social media, did

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Speaker 3: the laughing crying emoji.

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Speaker 6: There it is.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course, because the internet's dumb, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people came after Michael. That's not right, that's wrong,

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Speaker 3: that's mean, And Michael responded with, you' all want me

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Speaker 3: to feel bad. Jerry Jones slandered my name to the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys media and national media for months, So I do

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Speaker 3: think I can react to comments if I want to respectfully.

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Speaker 7: Well done, Michael.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Did Jerry slander him?

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Speaker 3: I don't yeah, he yeah, it was acting like he's

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Speaker 3: not one of the greatest pass rushers. Just in the

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Speaker 3: first five seasons of his career in NFL history, he

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Speaker 3: was acting like he was just a guy.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was disrespectful. So I'm with Micah here.

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Speaker 3: I know you like to cape up for the billionaire class,

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Speaker 3: the elites. I am a fan of the little man,

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Speaker 3: Michaeh Parsons. You know, I know he's doing well financially,

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Speaker 3: but he is the underdog here going up against Darth

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Speaker 3: Vader in the Evil Empire.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean if you feel that way, or I mean I

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Speaker 1: like to see if guys get paid. I just like

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Speaker 1: paying quarterbacks, left tackles, one weapon and an interior d lineman.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes with outside of Miles Garrett, maybe Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: I can struggle paying some pass rushers. But he's great.

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Speaker 1: There's no quie and I like that Green Bay took

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Speaker 1: a swing on him.

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Speaker 3: So all right, they were headed potentially for the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl Colin before this Micah injury. I mean, I like

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Speaker 3: this backers team. I have futures on them that are

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Speaker 3: up in smoke. But team Michaeh Parsons for me. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's move on to the Minnesota Vikings and a punching

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Speaker 3: bag of Colin Coward. This man will not be the

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Speaker 3: man of the Year, and that is JJ McCarthy. He

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Speaker 3: struggled in his first year starting member, he missed his

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Speaker 3: rookie year. But justin Jefferson is saying nice things about

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Speaker 3: his quarterback heading into the offseason. Here's Jefferson on who

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Speaker 3: he wants throwing him the ball next year.

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Speaker 8: That's not that's not my job. Of course, I would

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Speaker 8: love for him to be here. Of course, I would

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Speaker 8: love for him to be the quarterback, especially off of

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Speaker 8: this year. I feel like he needs to show everybody

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Speaker 8: and prove to everybody that he is that top tier quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I would love to have.

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Speaker 8: Him and I love to work with him and show

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Speaker 8: everybody he is that number one guy.

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Speaker 7: Let's hear it. Come on, let's hear I'll see a smirk.

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Speaker 7: I know something's coming. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, he had his injury right now because he played

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Speaker 1: well in the last month. His durability, that's an absolutely

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Speaker 1: fair question, he said. I don't know what the numbers

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Speaker 1: are in front of me, but he's had a chance

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Speaker 1: to play like thirty games and he's played, you know,

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Speaker 1: eleven of them or something. I mean, he's just not

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Speaker 1: healthy enough. Even when I love a quarterback like Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, one more sprained ankle here, and we

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Speaker 1: got to draft a quarterback at some point. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's great, but he's missed seventeen games. That's a

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Speaker 1: full season over the course of like seven years of starting.

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Speaker 1: I think durability doesn't get talked about a lot. Brock

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Speaker 1: Perty's very good when he's one hundred percent healthy, So

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Speaker 1: forget all the quarterback stuff because he did get better

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Speaker 1: at the end of this year. He's played nine of

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Speaker 1: thirty three games, nine of thirty three.

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Speaker 3: You know he's He's also I think the youngest starter

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Just got to get that body right,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe get on the Jmac workout plan and

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Speaker 3: beef up a little bit. I'm rooting for the guy.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I like the Vikings a lot. I

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Speaker 3: don't like a lot this week. I like the Vikings

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Speaker 3: against the Packers. Mash Unit final story column. Collin's Football

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Speaker 3: haven't talked about Arch Manning and what he did to

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Speaker 3: me Chigan in one of these exhibition games.

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Speaker 7: It didn't mean much. Arch who you.

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Speaker 3: Know, struggled for most of the year, came on strong late,

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Speaker 3: put up three hundred and seventy six yards four touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He won with his arm, one with his legs, and

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Speaker 3: he was the Citrus Bowl MVP. Put that one in

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Speaker 3: the file cabinet. Here's what he said about Peyton, who

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Speaker 3: was also the Citrus Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 4: Do you kind of have some bragging rights?

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Speaker 1: What's that conversation going to be?

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Speaker 6: Like? Nothing against the Citrus Bowl, but I think he

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Speaker 6: played in it twice. I don't want to have to

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Speaker 6: play in it twice. Us to be better leaders and

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Speaker 6: get this thing going. The standard is a standard Texas,

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Speaker 6: so got to keep it going and have a good

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: No, he played great, deserves a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: Interesting showcase game on the eve of the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: So transfer portals now open, Colin. You know, we got

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Speaker 3: a Texas staffer here on the herd, and who.

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Speaker 7: Are who are they getting?

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Speaker 3: Because right now, Colin, everybody in the portal wants to

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Speaker 3: go play.

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Speaker 7: With arts Manning. Okay, he looks really good in that game.

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Speaker 1: Well, why would I why would I leave Texas?

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Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly his roommate is entering the transfer portal a wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: Why would you do that if your Arch's room.

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Speaker 3: Reportedly some of the best receivers in the country, including

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Speaker 3: cam Coleman and Auburn. He's the number one receiver this

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Speaker 3: dude is. He looks like Jamar Chase six three to ten.

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Speaker 3: Apparently there's rumors that he could go from Auburn to

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Speaker 3: Texas and catch passes from Arch Manning. Listen, everybody was

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Speaker 3: a year early on Arch and Texas. They're really they

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Speaker 3: could potentially load up with a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Them all the next year's quarterback class. Oh, it's good,

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Speaker 1: potentially exceptional.

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Speaker 3: I'm just glad we've taken Julian Saying out of there.

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Speaker 3: He will be a four year starter, assuming he doesn't

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Speaker 3: get booted by laws day. Listen, next year's class, which

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Speaker 3: leads me to the whole Dante more Jet.

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Speaker 7: Stuff, but we could talk about that later.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Do you take one this year and next year?

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 7: Do you You can't punt this year and look to

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Speaker 7: next year?

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Speaker 1: The Jets have been punning for the last decade.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, but Arch Manning, you never

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Speaker 3: want to go gaga over an exhibition game. He did

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Speaker 3: look pretty sharp.

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Speaker 7: Colued no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He art takes always been. He's really athletic. If you

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Speaker 1: don't think of the Mannings as athletic, he's really athletics.

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Speaker 1: Big kid that runs well, and he got kind of

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Speaker 1: cleaned up as mechanics. I thought he played. Why watched

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Speaker 1: some of it? He played?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's early, but we just saw Alabama look kind

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Speaker 3: of like doo dooo. I think the team to beat

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Speaker 3: in the SEC next year, it's probably I mean, who's beaten.

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Speaker 1: Well, they've got the money. They've got it's the money

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Speaker 1: crowd and.

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Speaker 7: Georgia they don't look like they have it stocked in.

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Speaker 3: I think is moving on. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: Texas next year. Keep an eye on our spanning.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and noon eastern non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 3: shot to win your shriff of ten thousand dollars. One

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Speaker 3: of the questions is which QB will have the most

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Speaker 3: passing yards Dak Prescott, Matt Stafford, Trevor Lawrence, or Caleb

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Speaker 3: moo Williams this week, Colin, Now you got to be

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Speaker 3: careful because some of these guys, like Dak are probably

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Speaker 3: going to play a quarter or a series and then bounce.

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Speaker 1: Stafford goes big against the Cardinals, whose defense is allergic

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Speaker 1: to everything.

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Speaker 7: What about Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: I think he needs two hundred and some odd yards

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Speaker 3: to be the first four thousand yard passer in franchise history.

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Speaker 1: The Lions run defense is so lean, so weak. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to run the ball with such efficiency.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe they're trying to generate it, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of engineer a big passing day. That would be cool,

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Speaker 1: that would be fun. But I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: run it with some real conviction. Yeah, four thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: The team Chicago has never had a four thousand yard

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Speaker 1: passer and he's a couple hundred yards shy. So it

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Speaker 1: is remarkable in football, this big competitive landscape, what one

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Speaker 1: person can do. One year ago, the Lions were fifteen

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Speaker 1: and two number one offense in Pro Football. The Bears

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Speaker 1: were five and twelve, thirty second ranked offense. Then one

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Speaker 1: guy went from the good team the Lions, to the

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Speaker 1: bad team the Bears. And now Chicago's eleven and five,

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Speaker 1: top three offense, and the Bears are eight and eight

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Speaker 1: and they got a lot of issues. And the two

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Speaker 1: meet this weekend. And so we always talk about value

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Speaker 1: and impact. Ben Johnson has totally rerouted two separate franchises,

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Speaker 1: completely re routed the flights. This is not just being

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Speaker 1: a good head coach. This is being influential. That's what

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Speaker 1: this is. So you know, first of all, be very

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Speaker 1: careful ever letting great walk out in the door. But

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Speaker 1: here's here is Ben Johnson on this young team that

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Speaker 1: you worried if Caleb was a bust. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 1: worry about that anymore. Here's been on this very young

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Speaker 1: and ascending Chicago group.

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Speaker 9: Usually when you have a young team, a really young team,

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Speaker 9: they tend to ride the wave a little bit more

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Speaker 9: of going up and down. And I think we've got

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Speaker 9: we've got a really good core of veteran leaders that

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Speaker 9: keep the main thing the main thing. And they've made

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Speaker 9: my life a lot easier with this transition. And that

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Speaker 9: along with some veteran coaches, and you know, it takes

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Speaker 9: a lot of people to get it done like.

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Speaker 1: That it does, and Caleb has been excellent. But for

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Speaker 1: one man to have that influence to two separate organizations.

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Speaker 1: You can go ahead and name Elon Musk or your

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Speaker 1: favorite politician person of the year. The herds first annual

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Speaker 1: Person of the Year is Ben Johnson. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: You go ahead and go with that Musk guy, I'm

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Speaker 1: going with I'm going with Ben Johnson. All right, big

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Speaker 1: match up tomorrow night at seven o'clock. I'll be on

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Speaker 1: the couch. I don't know about the rest of you.

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Speaker 1: Finishing off a few more chicken Enchilotte has had four yesterday,

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Speaker 1: still three left in the pan. I like Seattle. I

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Speaker 1: think they have a deeper roster. And you don't know

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Speaker 1: if Trent Williams plays or George Kittle. My guess is

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Speaker 1: yes to both, but I asked RG three. Was on

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Speaker 1: the show thirty minutes ago a little bit about Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald before the showdown in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 5: Quarterbacks today, Colin have to have guys around them, Sam

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Speaker 5: Donald having Jackson Smith and Jigma this season. You know

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Speaker 5: last year having Justin Jefferson at wide receiver. That makes

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Speaker 5: dividends for a QB. Sam Donald has that now, and

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Speaker 5: that's why you're seeing me excel. And I think that

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks aren't getting the credit they deserve. And it's

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Speaker 5: because of Sam Donald. No one believes that he can

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Speaker 5: get it done in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one of these. Matt Stafford has always been

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Speaker 1: a little wreck. In fact, if you remember, for the

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Speaker 1: people that say you can't win with Sam Darnold, the

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Speaker 1: year the Rams won the Super Bowl, Matt Stafford led

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Speaker 1: the NFL and picks now, you know, back in the

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Speaker 1: old days, Nay meth lway through a lot of picks,

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Speaker 1: far through a lot of picks. Picks don't drive me crazy.

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Speaker 1: An unwillingness to throw the ball down the field drives

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Speaker 1: me crazy. And somebody who struggles Aaron Rodgers at times,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's mood in his body language changes

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Speaker 1: if he throws a pick or two. I like aggressive,

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Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. I think their bigger

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Speaker 1: issue is after JSN, I like their tight ends. Their

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Speaker 1: running backs are hitting miss. They don't really have a

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Speaker 1: dependable number two. Rashid Seed was supposed to be that

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Speaker 1: guy from New Orleans. Deep threat had been kind of inconsistent,

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Speaker 1: But I said earlier, I put up the ten best

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Speaker 1: players in this game. I think at the highest end,

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00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: George Kittle remains unbelievable. Christian McCaffrey's the best player in

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Speaker 1: the game. Kittle and Trent Williams are two of the

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Speaker 1: best four. Jsen has established himself as the top two

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Speaker 1: to three receiver in the league. He and Darnold are

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Speaker 1: great together. But in terms of depth of talent Byron Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Devon Witherspoon, Nick Emminwara, DeMarcus Lawrence, Seattle's got the deeper, younger,

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Speaker 1: more athletic roster, much much better defense. But again, if

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey busts it for one hundred and forty yards, Kittle

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Speaker 1: has seven catches. Trent Williams can keep the pass rush

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Speaker 1: at Bay, then San Francisco wins the game. J McK

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Speaker 1: and I are diametrically imposed on this one. I think

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Speaker 1: it's closed. I think it's competitive. Seattle has been the

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Speaker 1: best road team in the league the last two years,

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Speaker 1: so and it's an our ten minute flight. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a big deal. I like Seattle in this game.

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Speaker 1: If I ask you, J mack, what does the game

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Speaker 1: look like to you? What kind of game, is it?

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Speaker 1: What do you you what, Franz Byre, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to give too much away. We may be

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Speaker 3: talking about this headlines in the next hour. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think we're both thinking with our hearts in this one.

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Speaker 3: You love Sam Darnald. Everybody knows that. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you give out your Valentine's in a month, Sam Donald's

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Speaker 3: getting one, obviously, and when I do mine, brock Party's

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Speaker 3: getting one, right, So we're kind of thinking with our

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Speaker 3: heart over our head here. I'm worried because some respected

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Speaker 3: money is pushing this lineup. You see one and a half.

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Speaker 3: If you look at some certain other shops, it ain't

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Speaker 3: one and a half, it's up to two.

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Speaker 1: Two and a half. Oh and that's wise guy money.

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Speaker 7: It probably is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's you know, Joe Public dropping twenty

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Speaker 3: bucks in Vegas is moving it. I just can't go

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Speaker 3: get some honors at home right now. Is there a

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Speaker 3: hotter team offensively in the league right now?

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Speaker 4: That's different.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm gonna ride that wave.

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Speaker 3: It's just like a certain college basketball team play later today.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes when you're hot, you.

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Speaker 2: Got to ride it.

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Speaker 3: But I just we'll see Sam Donald last week in

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Speaker 3: this spot for Minnesota or last season?

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Speaker 6: How do you do?

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Speaker 7: I forgot remember.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco last in the league in sack.

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Speaker 7: You see how he dodds it?

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Speaker 4: Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, San fred has no pressure, no sack, no defense.

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Speaker 3: Can Robert Sama scheme up some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well he will, Robert's been super aggressive. Sala deserves a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit because it's there. It should not. It

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Speaker 1: should be a bottom three defense in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they really should. It's not middle of the pack, which

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Speaker 1: is award winning when you consider what they're dealing with

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Speaker 1: injuries and lack of experience. Power three nets