1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: I am Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson. We are 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: live from Steelers training camp here at St. Vincent College, 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the only place where you can hear live coverage of 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Steelers training camp. And of course we have our wall 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: to wall coverage of camp here, these very air waves 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: shows all day long, but this is the only one 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: that's live during practice, right we're talking about practice. Was 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: that Robinson made that tackle? Yeah that Yeah, got to 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: the outside there with Mastertigue. They got that. That was 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the first run drill um. They've got the that looks 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: like the third team out there on both sides of 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the football here. He can run though, he moves very well. Yeah, 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: when he shoots a gap and he decides to go 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: and he you know, he hits it, he gets it, 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: he hits a quick that's kind of cheating there. Yeah, 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: they will play action, will play action. Yeah, get get 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: ten yards. I always think inside runs kind of cheating 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: for the defense too. Well, Yeah, they know that's the 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: thing you're playing run like of what you're doing is 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: playing The only guy is not playing run necessarily. Are 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the corners even the safeties are biting up on that stuff, right, 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean the name of the drills inside run team 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: run drill. You need to get upright stop the run. 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: I think Robinson's destined for the practice squad, but he's interesting, Yeah, 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's tools there to work with, just raw 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: ability at this Yeah. I mean some people have mentioned 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: that they like them. You know, they're pretty happy with 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: where he's at right now. Yeah, he's out there with 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson. Now on the script. Buddy Johnson just attacked 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: a lot of scrimmage there. There's a nice play by seven. Yeah, 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson. I think I think he was in on 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: the tackle there with that. He just kind of went 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to the I'm gonna sift through the junk here and 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: get right to the line of scrimmage and go get 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: the ball carrier. And they could really use him stepping 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: up and having a having two big preseason games to 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: finish things out. Yeah, I mean that was that was 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: pretty nice play there by both guys. So they got 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: they got some guys here that we'll see. Yeah, see 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: there's somebody a linebacker and besides Miles, Jack needs to 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: reach this step up step off there some candidates. But yeah, 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: when I saw Devin bushing the in the backs on 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: backers or that was that was good. That was promising. 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: That was good physicality that I'm not writing them off 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: like he's got no chance. No, a lot of people 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: have just trade him, cut him. Now, come on people, Yeah, 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: all right, now the first team offensive line coming out 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: on the field. Here comes what here comes? Yeah, I 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: would imagine this won't be nearly as physical. Probably that's 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: what they kind of did yesterday, Like the third group 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: was out there. The young guys were out there and 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: they were getting physical with This will be much less. Yeah, 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: he's out there with you know, basically the starting offensive 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: line looks like Anthony Farlins to back though. That's interesting. Yeah, 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they want I think they're pretty be 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: with him too. I think there should be happy with him. Well, 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I think he's had a good camp too. He had 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: a good camp. Yeh. He was carrying a football around 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: today because of the fumble. Yeah, I had it tuck 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: tucked high. He was doing giving some interviews over there, 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: but he came walking up the steps at the football 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: tucks high and kept it there throughout the course of 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: the interviews that he was doing. That's that's the problem 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: you know for young guys all run to don't run 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: hard like that. Yeah, you know, they don't understand that. 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: At the NFL level, guys will hold you up while 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: somebody else comes in and tries to strip the ball up. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sometimes you gotta no one to fold him to. 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get something, you know, you want 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: to try to fight for that extra yard might might 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: cost you a fumble here. I found it interesting that 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: when they asked tom One after the game, you know, 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: what he told you guys was basically, well fumbled, okay, 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: not not, that's not what we're really happy with him. Like, 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: don't get ahead of yourself, youngster, you know, like, don't 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: go giving him any pats on the back quite yet. 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: But he's intrigued. He he's to put to be part 80 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: of the mix. Yeah, there's Nagy. They're not gonna tackle Nagy, 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: just kind of picking his spots and dancing through the 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: midd up the middle, picking up a few is he 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: wearing the neck the neck pad at the back of 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: you get something in the back of his he might 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: his pads or something there either that just because that's 86 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: that's the way that helmet thing is fastened on or whatever. 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: But it makes it look like it's he's got he's 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: wearing one of the old old style neckpads. Be means 89 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: he's as big as natro means. I don't think he 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: has the neck pad. I think that's just the way 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: that anything's gone on his head right now. I think 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: he could be really, really have a big year this year. 93 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: If this offensive line continues to run block the way 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: they did yeah the other day, create some seams for him. 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna hit those when he gets into the into 96 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: the second level. I'd love to see him, you know, 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: get to the second and third level a little more 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: and see what kind of punishment he can afflict on 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: defensive backs and we know what kind of burst he 100 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: can he can show, because it wasn't a lot of 101 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: those opportunities in the rookie year. As our as our 102 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Calliteague bub black Berry Roll always used to say about 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis in the fourth quarter, nobody wants to tackle 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: the fat kid anymore. It's an entiresome, right, I gotta 105 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: tackle this guy again. If that's why Bill Cower was 106 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: so good, you know, in closing those games out like that, 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: because you had a guy like Jerome Bettis who just 108 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: hurt people in the fourth course. Yeah, I mean the 109 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: team coach running back all meshed extremely well. And I 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: think this team wants to take a similar approach, you 111 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: know that. I think that they're pretty confident. The defense 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be good, the old lines gonna be a 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: work in progress. Quarterback many days won't be better than 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the opponent's quarterback, you know, or at least will be 115 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: a work in progress. So you're gonna have to punish 116 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: teams and you know, win in the fourth quarter and 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: where teams down. And I think they're equipped to do so. 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I have some questions about the line overall, but I 119 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: do think scheme and the players around the line should 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: help their situation quite a bit. And the scheme is 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: that scheme is such a big part of it. How 122 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: do you how do your scheme things up? And that's 123 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: what one of the biggest problems was last year. They 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: couldn't do any of that scheme stuff because everybody knew 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: it was coming. Yeah, a new style player and there's 126 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: a nice hole there. But for McFarland, the outline did 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: his job there. I'll tell you what. He's looked good 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: in this camp and just hitting a whole quicker seeing. Yeah, 129 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: he plays like an NFL running back Now. Before I 130 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: used to like in him looking like the Tasmanian devil. 131 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Was he arms and legs flying everywhere, but he wasn't 132 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: going anything happened spinning in a circle, spinning and right 133 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and making a lot of noise and then getting one 134 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: yard game. You know, now he's he's a different style. Um, 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: if you looked at him verse a year or two 136 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: ago and he had a different number on, you would 137 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: say this is where he could really like on a 138 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: pitch like that that yeah, um, you know they played 139 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: that well. Yeah, they did a nice job with that 140 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: one and strung it out and really took away the cutbacks. 141 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: But when you can get him out on the edge 142 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: or get him in space, yeah, I mean he's he 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: does that special speed he does and it shows as 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: a receiver as well. They've targeted him. I guess I 145 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: haven't brought this up in a while. Lee's matched up 146 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: on a linebacker, it's over. It's over. There's not a 147 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: linebacker in the league you can run with him. No, 148 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: and they target him deep now you know, they're not 149 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: a little flair paths dump offs. He's running routes that 150 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: are longer developing down the field, twenty yards down the field, 151 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: and he adjusted the football well you know so, um No, 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I think McFarland has a role and he's going to 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: be a spark plug. Yeah he's he's not you know 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: again people but they see a smaller guy and they 155 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: automatically think of some you know, three Archer or something 156 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: like that, yathing. McFarland is about a hundred pound running back. Yeah, 157 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: three Archer was a hundred seventy pounds, I mean said, 158 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, hundred eighty soak and win like, I don't know. 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: McFarland ever, would be the every down back and Harris 160 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: wasn't there. I mean, he would be a part time player. 161 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: And he his you know, his lower body and waiste 162 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: aren't super thicker bulky. But I mean he's he's not 163 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: a little guy. No, yeah, he's just just a little 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: guy in this game, right right, I mean and compared 165 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: to nag yeah, and some of the other guys. Uh, 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: and the rants a lot thicker and yeah or not 167 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: the random sorry just Beenny snow in the backfields like 168 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: snack there now too not bad run, yes, decisive run 169 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: one read it well, stuck his footing the ground, got 170 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: got north and south there without getting touch. So they 171 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: were moving some bodies a little bit. People want him 172 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: out of town too, like they decided they don't like somebody. Well, 173 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: you just gotta cut him, get rid of this other guy. 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Guy who's never played in the football game before. He's 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: got to be better than that guy. Rudolph Bush. Yeah, Snell, 176 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: they gotta go. Yeah. Um, I think if I was Snell, 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: I'd be a little more nervous about my job than 178 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I was a couple of weeks ago. Though. Absolutely the 179 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: other guys have played so now you you know, I 180 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: think you know that's why we may see him back 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: out here today. But you know, right, would he be 182 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: back out of this quick normally? I don't know. I 183 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: don't know that for certain. Was it a coincidence that 184 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Claypool comes back after Pickings lights him up? You know? 185 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he said today's he's had two separate 186 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: shoulder injuries. Yeah, So it's not been just one thing 187 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that that's been nagging him. It's been that's out what 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about so now we get a special teams period. 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: No means what I say, And you know he's just 190 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: taking he's being softer or anything. It often isn't a 191 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: coincidence that the guy you're directly fighting with has a 192 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: really good day that the dudes that were out showback up. Yeah, 193 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how it goes. All right, get 194 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: a little punt return here and gunneral Schofsky the only 195 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: guy back there. They're going to actually punt the football here, 196 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: it looks like it, I think then we are. It's 197 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: like we're going to try to punt it and down 198 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: it inside the inside of twenty. Here they're having two gunners. 199 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Find gunners aren't releasing from the line of scrimmage. They're 200 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: releasing twelve yards past the line of scrimmage, and they're 201 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: telling them when to go. The coach yelled at them go. 202 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure why they're not starting at the 203 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but maybe this is concern Well, there's nobody. 204 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: There's nobody there on the defensive side of things. Yeah, 205 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: because a lot of the same guys are would be 206 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: doing this, you know, so you don't want these guys 207 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: running fifty yards and you come back and then you 208 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: have to play defense. And I think the key here 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: that they want the gunners to find the football. Yeah, 210 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: and it looks to me, um, now we're not that 211 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: drill ended pretty quickly here, but it looked like they 212 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: wanted one gunner to be behind the ball and one 213 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: in front of you know, look like the left guy 214 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: there broke down again. Yeah, you're kicking it inside the 215 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: trying to get down it inside the one e there. 216 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that if the if 217 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: the return man lets it go, there's somebody, there's somebody 218 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: behind but the end zone. And then the other guy 219 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: was staying in front of the returner. Now they're setting 220 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: up the kick out of the end zone. Okay, I 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: mean all these different This is one of the most 222 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: important plays in football. This could go seven the other 223 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: way and yeah, no time. I mean, we've seen this 224 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: happen before in Coustus Steelers a Super Bowl. We've had 225 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: a lot of special teams talk over the last few days, 226 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know, those guys are such creatures a habit 227 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: and expect things always be the same. But when you 228 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: don't have quite as much room as a punter, that's 229 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: very different, and even a long snapper like you can't 230 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: snap it exactly, you can't take your three one step 231 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: and get it out kill Yeah, oh man, and he 232 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: tell you took a great bounce, that ball is gonna 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: roll in the end zone from the other Yeah, he 234 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: just kicked the ball hundred yards. It landed on the 235 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean it was seventy five in the 236 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: air and he got a favorable bounce. That was a 237 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: one step kick too, was halfway in the other end 238 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: zone from the other back of the goal lines. It 239 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: was that's a big that's a big win for the 240 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: You get that one eight five yards actually foot to 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the land plus another roll. Yeah, he kicked the snot 242 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: out of that one. I mean even the returner was like, 243 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this again here. It was not. But 244 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: that's still a pretty good kick. Yeah, it's it's caught 245 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: at the forty four on the other side, so pretty 246 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: so five yard punt. Yeah, he'll take that sixty five 247 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: air yards. You can't have the thirty yard punt in 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: those situations, and all too often that's what you see 249 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: because they're trying to get it out quick, right right right, 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: chan get a little easier, you know, but I mean 251 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: that that gives the other team points. Yeah, I mean 252 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: that's now they're coming out a little further still, gonna 253 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: be with and wants to see this inside the twenty here, 254 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: let's with the situational punning. It looks like, yeah, he 255 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: just wants to see the release there. Okay, Okay, I 256 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: wasn't sure what he was after there. They'll do that 257 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: drill every once in a while to have everybody turned 258 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: their back and then run to the ball. Find We'll 259 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: find the find football. Okay. It's kind of just like 260 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: a cluster. Yeah, and then where's the ball? Carry where's 261 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the ball? Okay, breakdown, find it, break that guys out there. 262 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Get thirty one out there, thirteen is out there, so 263 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: you're laying out there. Boy can out there? So Boyking 264 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: is back today. Looks like Warren Splaine is out there. Yeah, 265 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Warren is out there. Heys. You always said Norwood's out there, 266 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson. You always say that the guys who are 267 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: on the punt coverage team the number one punt coverage team, 268 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: big time indicatory, and so you're a top of the 269 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: special teams depth start. Basically, so the guys that are 270 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: out there right now. Snell is out there as well, 271 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: So these are guys who are probably they're looking at 272 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: his probably gonna make the team. I would think White 273 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: is out there. I don't know that. I think he's 274 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: a long shot, but he's a good special teamer. Yeah, 275 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: and right now, to Marcus Allen is usually one of 276 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: the personal protectors in that situation. He's still out as 277 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: his killer Brew looks like he's Killerber's in uniform today, 278 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: but he still doesn't. I still don't know if he's practicing. So, 279 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: but they like they like White, they do like what. 280 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a coach's favorite. I think he's kind 281 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: of limited and in a play in the wrong position 282 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: right now too. Yeah, it's a tough spot. They must 283 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: really like Hayward. I mean he just he's always on 284 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: the field. Another good punt Adeline that ended up about 285 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: on the five. Presley Harvin is another one that that fans, 286 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, just wanted to see gone this year. They 287 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: may really change their tone after they watch him punt 288 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, he kicks the ball. It's 289 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: it's got a different sound to it. Yeah, I mean 290 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: that when they kicked these high spirals that just keep climbing, 291 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: climbing and climbing, cutting the rocket ship. Yeah, another one time, 292 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and that one is my god. Wow, fielded at the 293 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: fifteen and the ball was at the kick about the 294 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: about the ten. Yeah, wow, he's had several just monster shots, 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: just rockets today. You're right, it doesn't make a different 296 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: noise coming off his foot. Yeah, he's but he's got 297 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: to do it in the game. I understand, no doubt. 298 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, the boy, he's powerful. Yeah, I mean the 299 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: leg the legs drength is not a question. Consistency is 300 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: the question. Yeah, much of There's many punters in the 301 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: league that can come close to his legs. Right, it 302 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: comes another one. Lets it go from the fifteen again. 303 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: You know that was from the tent. I'm sorry, I'm 304 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: my god. The hang time with that really far when 305 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't know wh probably about the thirty thirty five 306 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. But it's a pretty ball though return 307 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: line with spiral and and I mean obviously he was 308 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: trying to pin him in. It's like there's helium in 309 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the ball. It just keeps going up and up and up, right, 310 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: especially when he really hits that spiral, right, Yeah, it 311 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: just cuts the wind and just keeps climbing. Yeah, it's 312 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: you can just tell how the returners react to it. 313 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: He gets like, oh, it's like an outfielder of the 314 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: ball gets they're now setting up fifty yards downfield from 315 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: where he's out and they're not messing around anymore. He's like, 316 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kick it over their heads anymore. Presumably, 317 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: see he can. There's another one, another one, just I mean, 318 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: this thing's going up above our tent so we can't 319 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: see it. Of course, the fair catch was easy to 320 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: catch up always from the kicks from the tenant came 321 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: down at the fifteen. I wonder, I wonder the hang 322 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: time on that one was too. That was high. It 323 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: is tremendous. Nice period by number six here. Yeah, he's 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: helping the ball, having himself a day here, and they've 325 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: all been. I mean, he hasn't hit a bad one, no, 326 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Like I wonder where that one before this one that 327 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: went out of bounds would have been marked. I'm sure 328 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: he didn't want it to go that far out right, 329 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: and he was clearly doing that on purpose. Yeah. Um, 330 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: so he's a big part of this as well. If 331 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: he can win the field position battle, get the hidden 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: yardage out of that um that that makes a big difference. 333 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: You can make the opponent have to get one more 334 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: first down against his defense because the punch better than 335 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: it was. Just these are these are coming out of 336 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: your own and you're flipping the field there too, right, 337 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you know you're not. You're not hitting just a forty 338 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: yard or with no return. You're hitting he's hitting fifty 339 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: fifty five sixty yarders with no return. No mean hypothetically 340 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: you get the ball to twenty three and out things 341 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: and go well, maybe holding the other team were expected 342 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: to get the ball right somewhere and then they get 343 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: it at their Yeah, that's a that's a huge flip. 344 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: We didn't get the advantage. We thought there was a 345 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: big defensive That one's not. That one's a little uglier. Yeah, 346 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: he still got that came down. It was still pretty 347 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: good differance. Yeah, it looked a little different than the 348 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: other ones that he didn't hit that one quite as 349 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: well as he had the other ones. We're gonna take 350 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: another break, he has Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawley. 351 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to our live coverage here from Steelers training 352 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: camp at St. Vincent College. Um, we are here until 353 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: five o'clock today, Steelers practicing until about four. You think 354 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: it's okay and you are correct. Yeah, you are correct. 355 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Angled that one too, that come down at about the 356 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: seven the numbers. Yeah, so we're another really nice punt 357 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: there by Pressley put him into the corner and having 358 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: on having himself a day hang time. Yeah, he is. 359 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We'll be back with 360 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Moore right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly 361 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold 362 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with 363 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. We are alive from Steelers training camp here 364 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: at St. Vincent College. The team going a little eleven 365 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: on eleven here in front of us here with some 366 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: passing stuff again that yeah, Trabinsky taking the first team 367 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: snaps pick it take you second today and Rudolph taking third. 368 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: I think that was the plan all along here, Butts 369 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: to become the norm. Miles boy can now back this 370 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: week or today. He was out yesterday. Benny Snell back 371 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: out there again as well. Good for Snow. He needs 372 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: to get out. He needed to be out there, so 373 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: takes the snap, has a good pocket quick. Yeah, good 374 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: job at Tyler snee But that catch decisive, Yeah, got 375 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: open quick, nice catch, turns up field. Hard to believe. 376 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: He's no nonsense guy man. Hard to believe he couldn't 377 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: fit in somewhere in the New England passing game. They 378 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: didn't have any wide receivers, right, But he caught like 379 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: ten balls, nine balls and nine catches in his first 380 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: three seasons, like on a team that was really receiver challenge, 381 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: very receiver challenge. And they always have a place for 382 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: that type of receiver as well. It's not like every 383 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: offense stresses it like they do. Who's to say, I 384 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I understand he was a defensive 385 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: back in college, so I'm sure there wasn't adjustment here. 386 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: So the Steelers are getting a much more right, I 387 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: mean one one of the New England and on a 388 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: tangent here, one of the big problems with New England, 389 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: and they're kind of been talking about this a lot lately, 390 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: is Brady, Okay, here's my playbook, and then they just 391 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: add to it every year, you know, just and before 392 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: you know what it looks like New York's phone Book 393 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: or whatever you know, and is again, Yeah, that's a 394 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: nice work by Gunner, just gets open. So historically and 395 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: over and over in New England, a lot of receivers, 396 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: especially young ones, have failed there because it's almost that 397 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: was Tyler Steen. That was a that was a Rudolph passer. 398 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: It's a nice job getting that one out. But part 399 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: of the problem isn't drafting the wrong receivers. It's asking 400 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: them to do too much New England. And I don't 401 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: know if he was a defensive back and you know 402 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: it hasn't had a lot of experience as the receiver 403 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: and justin routes on the fly and things like that. 404 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: Maybe they just didn't trust him. Yeah, that could be, 405 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: could be. I mean, it's so one of their faults. 406 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: And they've been talking about trying to simplify things there too, 407 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and even bringing more Shanahan principles and things like that. 408 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: But Rudolph in the shotgun getting ready to take the snapper, 409 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: motions that motions Tyler Vaughn's in closer to the line. 410 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Good rush there. Who was that plitzer? I don't know, 411 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: but he got there. I couldn't tell for he got 412 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: ran over but I couldn't tell who who brought. He 413 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: is not a blocker, No, he really isn't. He's thin man. Yeah, 414 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: if you look thin man, man, I mean you look 415 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: at him when he turns sideways. His body just doesn't 416 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: have any depth to it. And he's a real thin guy. 417 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, he listened to add pounds. He's probably close. 418 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a four three guy, know 419 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: the sub fourth three four you know guy. But man, 420 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: if he's kind of built like a receiver. Yeah, if 421 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: you can't block in this league, you're in trouble. And 422 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: people are gonna bull rush him every time, or at 423 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: least try him. He's got to prove that. Because that 424 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson had got him on that one, it must 425 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: have been Yeah, I think it was certain, but I 426 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: thought that's who want to see Buddy Johnson, right, both 427 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: inside backers? Nice j Yeah, get it out quick White. 428 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Just makes it all. He doesn't 429 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: make play. I know, I wish he was more talented, 430 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, makes it hard to cut. 431 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: He does everything, as you know. He's a good special teamer, 432 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: unbelievable work ethic. I mean, I would love to stash 433 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: him on the practice squad, and if two guys get hurt, 434 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: you could use them one game day. That's coming to 435 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the ceiling with them though. Yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna 436 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: even if you release him and try to get them 437 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: get him onto your practice squad, nobody's gonna pick him off. 438 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Probably not. There'll be some some tape on him. But 439 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: he's not special enough to go out of your way 440 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: and grab him. I mean, the people are gonna like 441 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: him best are the ones that are working with him 442 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: all the time. Not to mention, his dad works in 443 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the scouting department now, so he probably wants to stay. Yeah. 444 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: I bet that's a nice conversation. Nice job. By ninety three, 445 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: they're blowing up that really. Yeah, screen took a little 446 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: while to develop. It did and then he did you 447 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: know they did suck in the entire defensive line they did. Yeah, 448 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: good job by him. That was well done, McFarland and 449 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: no shot, but not his fault. Now they're gonna do 450 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: it at the other end. Yeah, change your field position, 451 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: don't do as much wear and tear on the field itself. 452 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: But the hasn't been a bad practice. Yesterday I thought 453 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: it was an exceptional practice. This has not been a 454 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: bad one. Um. I meant to say this earlier, dawned 455 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: on me at the at the break last time back 456 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: to Harvard, but he just did there was pretty amazing. 457 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just killing. The football fans here 458 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: actually clapped when he got that. That's where I go 459 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: with this. It's funny because we both mentioned that after 460 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: a punter got done, and we're not in Europe, right right. 461 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: I've seen that before in Europe. I remember when the 462 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Steelers went to a Barcelona in ninety three to practice 463 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: against the forty niners. Those soccer folks appreciated, and so 464 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: on that field you had Rod Woodson, you got Jerry Race, 465 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: Steve Young, I mean just hall of famers all over 466 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: the place. DERMONTI Dawson is there, and the fans there 467 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: were watching the kickers kick and cheering every time. Wow, 468 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: look how cool that is. Look at that far he 469 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: kicked up. I'm sure they've never seen such a thing. 470 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, they don't realize what Jerry Rice was doing 471 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: was probably more impressive. But hey, you know, a little rarer. Anyway, 472 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: back to Harvard, you kind of stole the words out 473 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: of my mouth. Was one of us said, you know 474 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: he's in the doghouse, Steel Nations down on him, YadA YadA. Well, 475 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: I can tell you a couple of thousand new fans 476 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: he have that running around here right now right, aren't 477 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna be down? Yeah, just tremendous. I mean that one 478 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: ball again did the ball traveled eight yards in the 479 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: eight yards in the air and rolled into the other 480 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: end zone from the back end zone line they kicked 481 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: it from one step and one step boom gone. You know, yeah, 482 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean that was that might be the most impressive 483 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: punting display like I've ever seen, because there was one 484 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: after another too. That's the highlight, and that's a rare. 485 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: That's a Randall Cunningham ninety yard or with a roll 486 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: type deal. But you know, for him to do over 487 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: and over, and I wonder if you asked Danny or 488 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, some of the special Teams gurus, they might 489 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, but you didn't. You didn't realize 490 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: how impressive the five second hang time was. On the way, 491 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: were nice job covering near by Fremouth? Yeah? Really nice? Yeah, 492 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: keep harping on this. When I see those patterns, I mean, 493 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: that's a tight end right between the numbers and the 494 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: hash twenty yards on field fifteen. I mean that's what 495 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: tight ends do. We didn't see that happened last I mean, 496 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: that's why he averaged eight and a half yards of 497 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: catch last year. He sprinkles a few of those in 498 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: this year. That exactly, you know, I think, I just 499 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: think everything's going to be deeper this year. That depth 500 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: of the depth of the catches is gonna be deeper. 501 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: That's right when I say the in the middle. Yeah, 502 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson might not catch you know, a hundred and 503 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: seven passes this year, but he still might have eleven 504 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: receiving yards, right, you know, it might be eighty five catches, 505 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: but he's you know, yards deeper patterns and more over 506 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I mean, a guy like 507 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Friarmouth can make a living there. We haven't seen Deontay 508 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: be real active here. I mean he's he's active. He 509 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: hasn't stood out yet today Maybe this will be the play. 510 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: He's down here on the outside with Claypool to the 511 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: inside in the slot, uh Robiski and the shotgun here 512 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: looking that way there it is called it and just 513 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: a simple slant. Yeah, Claypool, you know takes some deep 514 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: clears it out a little bit, he goes right behind 515 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: him right off his hip there on that slant in 516 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: Trabisky puts them on immediately. There's someone after the catch 517 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: possibilities you know, well designed, well repped play a ten 518 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: yard completion over the middle, over the middle, over the middle, 519 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's the Steelers attack that 520 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: that part of the field nearly enough last two years. 521 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like he probably would have ran a similar 522 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: route a year ago, but two step shallower, yeah, I mean, 523 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: or the ball wouldn't have been thrown. That's the thing 524 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: you didn't you know people, you know, I got asked that, well, 525 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: why why didn't the Steelers do that more last year? 526 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: But they ran they had get guys running patterns in 527 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Quarterbacks gotta throw it, and 528 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think sometimes, um, you know, Roethlisberger was 529 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: very want to get out. That's where the traffics at. Yeah, yeah, 530 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, and when you're playing against Ben Roethlisberger in 531 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: those situations, you know said of the thousand times, like 532 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: the opponents knew the ball was coming out quick. So 533 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: at the snap of the football, you had ten guys 534 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: within five yards of the last scrimming, right. Yeah, we 535 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: had a really good conversation I guess last week the 536 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: week before about some of these advanced analytics sites which 537 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: I really respect, didn't have the dealers as super loaded 538 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: boxes and that just does ridiculous to me. No, it 539 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: didn't pass the eye test. Yeah, it didn't pass it 540 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: at all. And maybe they they don't against Steelers. I mean, 541 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that their methods say that. But again, 542 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: like you said, when the ball was snapped, everyone's going 543 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: in the same area, which was in the box they made. 544 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: They made it start at eight yards back, but when 545 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: the ball snapped, they're coming for everybody's coming forward. Everyone's 546 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: coming forward and playing him much differently, you know, trust me, 547 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: they weren't playing the Chiefs the same way. If if 548 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: they had the same amount of load of boxes, and 549 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: they showed by Devin bush on that that was it 550 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: covers from ground, covered some ground and they get through 551 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: the ball out to the flat and he would have 552 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: had a tackle for a loss there, I think. So, yeah, 553 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't. I know, he's in the doghouse, and frankly, 554 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: he has me worried. I mean, there's no there's no 555 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: question about that. But I wouldn't say this camp has 556 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: been a negative for him. I think it's been He 557 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: just has a mediocre and it hasn't shown up huge. 558 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: We haven't seen the splash. Yeah, and we saw a 559 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: splash from him his rookie year. Yeah, splain to me 560 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: is shown up negatively. Yes, the other signers haven't made 561 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: as much splash good or bad as I would have liked, 562 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: namely Buddy Johnson. He's kind of a ghost, but not 563 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: necessarily like he's getting exposed with Blaine is getting exposed. 564 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Jack's been really good. That's probably a sack of course, 565 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: but you know good still good pocket movement if I 566 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: pick it. Even on that play, I just I just 567 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: focused on Bush and it looked to me like he 568 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: was he was blitzing, but he kind of was had 569 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: also had his eyes on the quarterback, So maybe he 570 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: was spying a little bit in that situation. Um, And 571 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: that's something that teams might have to do against the 572 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: Steelers a little bit this year. And that's probably true. 573 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: And I was thinking from the other perspective is if 574 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna play Deshaun Watson, especially Lamar, Jack's better be 575 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: britty to spy and you better be ready to spy. 576 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: And Bush would be a logical candidate for that. It's 577 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: a it's not a difficult assignment. He can run with anybody. 578 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a flashy assignment, though, you know, 579 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: it's not. You can't get you can't take the cheese. 580 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: You gotta be patient and you know. But there again, 581 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: Roberts Blaine is not You're not spying r Jackson with 582 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: no Robert. I mean, he can get him on the ground, 583 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: but if it turns into a foot race, he's gonna lose. 584 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna lose in a bad way, in a bad way. Absolutely, 585 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I I'm not ready to to 586 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: throw the baby out with the bathwater with Devin Bush. No, 587 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: I kind of him with Splain though, yeah, I mean 588 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: an elite special teamer, which I just think there's a 589 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: lot of special team options here. I'd rather roll the 590 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: dice with Buddy or Robinson or somebody the young guys. Now, 591 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, but as Robinson told me the other day 592 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: when he was asked about that after the game, you know, 593 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: she said, Danny Smiths tough to please. He is, Yeah, 594 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: even doing this a long time you're making mistakes out 595 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: there on special teams. You're not gonna be out there 596 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: on special team, right. And you guys think, I mean, 597 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: he's a running back turn linebacker, you know, Like, I 598 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: don't know how much experience he has in that face. 599 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: He's out there now with Buddy Johnson. Let's see what 600 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: this looks like. These two to step up. I'm kind 601 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: of bummed about Ulysses Gilbert. I thought he had a 602 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: chance to really be an impact guy this year. I 603 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: wonder if Blaine got hurt today. We haven't seen a 604 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of much of the stuff. Maybe he got hurt 605 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: on the pass rush stuff. I don't see him on 606 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: the other side. I'm looking for him on the sidelines. 607 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: He's not jumping out because they haven't seen him out 608 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: there in the defense at all now, and usually war 609 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: is he injured. That could be the case. I don't 610 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: see him over there with the defensive guys. It doesn't 611 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: mean he isn't. I just like, yeah, we just don't 612 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: see him. Kind of interesting. That's something no examine there. Yeah, um, 613 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: but that's who Kenny does here. Yeah, pick it in 614 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: the shotgun. Got Benny Snell to his right down here 615 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: in the bottom. He got Cody White, I believe down 616 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: in the bottoms making some strides. Yeah, Gunnerolschowski in the 617 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: slot looks like Tyler Vaughan on the upside out there 618 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: on the outside man. Not a great passer. Kind of 619 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: a crowded neighborhood. Yeah, you don't want to throw into 620 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: that neighborhood necessarily. We're gonna take another break. Matt. He 621 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I m Dale Lollly. You're listening to 622 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: The Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine 623 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: seventy are live ongoing coverage from Steelers training camp here 624 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: at St. Vincent College. We will be back with more 625 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 626 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on you home of the Black and Gold, 627 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with 628 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Matt Williams from here live from Steelers training camp here 629 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: at St. Vincent College, bringing you all the action as 630 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: it happens here. And uh, Matt, just a little bit ago, 631 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: Mastertigue carted off and during that team drill session there, 632 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Uh looks like you took a hit. And uh remember 633 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: the day they signed him. I kind of thought, Yeah, 634 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's been. He've a bounced around a 635 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: little bit, kind of a montone athlete. He's banger, but 636 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: nothing great. He was a lot better than that when 637 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: he was here. I mean, I thought he played pretty 638 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: well in the Steeler uniform. Um, who knows. Hopefully it's 639 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: not too severe, but I wanted to give him a 640 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: little credit for what he's done since he's been here. Yeah, yeah, 641 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: he's been. He's been pretty good from Uh, that's a shame. 642 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: You know. It's again that so often is the case 643 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: in this game. Um, getting through a training camp healthy, 644 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: No man, he says. You know, it's just as important, 645 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: especially if you're a guy trying to establish yourself. You 646 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: may have all the talent in the world. Then you 647 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah, I mean, and everybody forgets and then boom, 648 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: you're gone. Especially at that position. There's always be running 649 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: backs coming in the league that are cheap and young 650 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: and fresh legs, and you know, you can get forgotten 651 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Um, they were just doing a drill. I 652 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: just want to kind of, you know, spell it out 653 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: for people. They were working on punt block and they 654 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: were doing singular but it wasn't what what what Danny's 655 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: trying to teach them is get you. They hit the 656 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: ball as it's coming off the foot. You know, you're 657 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: not diving, you're not in the air. That they want 658 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: you to take the football right off off his foot. Yeah, 659 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: exactly what happens if you leave your feet on that play? 660 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: What you see a lot of guys do. If you 661 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: missed a football, it's probably it's gonna be a flag. Yeah, yeah, 662 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: and you have no real control. If you are able 663 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: to take it right off his foot, there's a real 664 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: good chance you're gonna take it the other house too, 665 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: And the ball is going to right the you know, 666 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: the direction towards your goal line and one no accident. 667 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: The Steelers are pretty good at that. Yeah, right, right, 668 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: right right. And it's not as easy as it looks 669 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: because it's hard to get your body moving full speed 670 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: with two hands about two feet off the ground together, 671 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, like that. That's an awkward position. And I 672 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: guess to know shock. But the guy that looked the 673 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: best doing it was Killer Brew. I mean, he has 674 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: the most experience, but I don't think of him as 675 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: a natural bender get low being able to accelerate. But 676 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: he looked really smooth doing it, and he blocked upon 677 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: her two in his career. I have a feeling, yeah, yeah, 678 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: for sure, I've been looking everywhere for Robert's plain. I 679 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: just don't see he would be out there for this stuff. 680 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, he certainly be on the field for special 681 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: team stuff here. Haven't seen him since back on backs 682 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: on backers. It was that the last time. I know. 683 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: I know, you have a couple of reps there against 684 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: Nagy Harris and backs on backers and don't recall seeing 685 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: him since. No, So another one to keep an eye on. 686 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: Getting kind of thin and inside linebacker. I said a 687 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of great things about Spillane lately, but I mean still, 688 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: these guys have played a lot of snaps here. Yeah, 689 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: so we'll have to find out about that as well. Um, 690 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: what's going on. And that's it with that situation. But 691 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: that's the way it goes here. I mean, it's a 692 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: battle of attrition here at training camp. It's good to 693 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: keep your eyes off of these things. You know. I'm 694 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: sure we'll hear about it down the road or you know, 695 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: press conference tonight or whatever or some kind of statement. 696 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: But see how Tigue and Spillane are. I did get 697 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys back lately. You know, some of 698 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the star guys are out there. It's good, nice to see. 699 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: We want a lot of camp without Deonte, Claypool, Friar, 700 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Move Naugy, those guys guys as you expect to be 701 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: the core of the offense. But they're starting to get 702 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: more and more revved up. And I think firem Moo's 703 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: had a good practice um nausey look in the backs 704 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: on backer drills of course. Yeah, yeah, Um, it's a 705 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: good group of skill guys they have. It really is. 706 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know that it's certainly I 707 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's number one in the league in terms 708 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: of that grouping. I also don't see a weakness of 709 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: your Yeah, it's it's in the top tennis, right, like 710 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at the Bengals 711 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: is number one, which I mean I probably wouldn't fight John, 712 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: but they're tight end wouldn't play here, you know, he 713 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the top five, you know, I mean, 714 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: boy just a good player. He's not great. Um. You 715 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: know they have a special combination of receivers, but it's mixings, 716 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, mixings the top. Yeah, he's a really good 717 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: player six or seven back in the league. Yeah. Yeah, 718 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: but they're five. Isn't star to star, you know, I 719 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: mean there's some weaknesses there. Yeah, this this this group 720 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: when you look at it, um, especially if Claypool is 721 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: what he's capable of. Yeah, I don't know. I don't 722 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: want to have the most questions about it those five. 723 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: Like you know, if teams treat Deonte Johnson as the 724 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: number one receiver this year, which they did last year, right, 725 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: I mean history will show that that's how everyone treats him. 726 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you watch any game film last year. Everyone 727 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: treats him as the number one. At some point you 728 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: would you would think that that's going to shift. Um, 729 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I just like picking chances if he gets a lot 730 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: of one on one and then if if Deante Johnson 731 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: starts getting one on ones, you know that that's going 732 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: to change things dramatically as well. And in their different 733 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: style receiver and Claypool gives you some matchup issues and 734 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: Firemouth gives you matchup issues, and absolutely, it's a it's 735 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: a it's an interesting grouping Nazi is no slouch in 736 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: the passing game either, No, absolutely, so they're gonna be 737 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: a difficult team to defend. And then you know, even 738 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: if you take let's say you take Nagy Harris off 739 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: the field and you bring Anthony me Farland in as 740 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: a receiver, and again now you've created more. Yeah, yeah, 741 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: you go empty. And you know, right, they didn't go 742 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: empty with Nagy two, of course, but no, I like 743 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: their options. And you know, if friar Muth develops a 744 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: little more as a blocker, um, if Claypool becomes a 745 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: more willing blocker out of the I think you'll get 746 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: better peripheral skill position blocking than they got last year. 747 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: You almost it's gonna block, is gonna block, because I 748 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: was going with that. You know, you kind of knew 749 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Ray Ray wasn't right, you know, I mean it kind 750 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: of nowhere to go, but up he tried. But yeah, 751 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: yeah it's a seth. He's little, and it was gonna 752 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: anybody right right right, And Juju was good at it, 753 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: but he was on the field of Ton, you know. Yeah. 754 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's an interesting group this year and and uh, 755 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to yeah, I'm exactly how but he's gonna 756 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: be out. They're intrigued by what this the possibilities with 757 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: this offense, I don't Again, I don't know that you 758 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: need elite high level quarterback play with that grouping. I'm 759 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: not that worried about the quarterback, to be very honest 760 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: with you. I mean I have high hopes for pick 761 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: it big pictures football. To Risky is a good enough 762 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: player with it's only getting better. What could the rail it? 763 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: To me though? Is the other line? Yeah? I mean, 764 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: if if we're sitting here, you know, after the season, 765 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: going man, this was a bottom six or seven offense, 766 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna say, well, they wanted to have 767 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: longer developing routes but couldn't protect or you know, like 768 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: but again, I think so much of that because of 769 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback mobility that they have. Oh, they've ways of 770 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: making their life easier, you know, the ability to roll 771 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: things out and it flood his own you know, to 772 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: the right or the left, with with different at all 773 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: three levels, with you know, receivers who who are going 774 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: to be a matchup problem. You know, somebody's going to 775 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: have a much smaller man against it. Oh yeah, a 776 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: much slower guy one of the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 777 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: I just think that if the the old line can't 778 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: be adequate, all that's nothing, you know, and there's a 779 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: lot of ways around it, and they've done great things 780 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: to make that life easier, including an athletic quarterback scheme, 781 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, making it more difficult to cover their five dudes. 782 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: But if I mean, I'm thinking workst case scenario, if 783 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: James Daniels is a bust, which is I'm not predicting that. 784 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: He just hasn't been good yet. Mason Cole's just a 785 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: guy in the middle, Kendrick Green can't handle power, and 786 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: the tackles are just okay. You know, we're gonna look 787 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: at this thing and be like, man, but what if 788 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: they add two more starters on the old line in 789 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: the off season, you know, like, even if the thing 790 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: that I just laid out is true and it's a 791 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: bad group, it might not. I mean a year from now, 792 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: it might be totally different. They have so many resources. 793 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: You get you have a first round pick, a third 794 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: round pick, and too free agents if you had to, 795 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: and they could easily swing that, you know. So I mean, 796 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: we're not talking about two thousand twenty three. That's not 797 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: what I'm here to do. But the old line, if 798 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: it's a problem, you could easily plug in one guy 799 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: to guy if you had too next year, but then 800 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes this year. To me more, 801 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: you know what you just laid out, I think is 802 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you signed Deante Johnson to 803 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: the Yeah, right, right right, you're just killing needs. Yeah, 804 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: you don't. You now don't have an absolute need at 805 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver going in the next season. No, absolutely not, 806 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: especially if Austin plays pretty well, you know, and even 807 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: the Miller could be coming back. You know, guys like 808 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: that that you don't get anything from this year, so 809 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to spend a second or third round 810 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: pick next year on a wide receiver. And I said, well, 811 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: you just use a second round pick every year in 812 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Sounds great in theory, but that means 813 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: you're not That means you're not getting something else in 814 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: a pre win a premium draft spot. I mean, this 815 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: is probably a way too optimistical way of looking at it, 816 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: but I mean they're not They don't have a ton 817 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: of free agents after the year. I don't see a 818 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: ton of massive team needs. I mean, like, I can 819 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: live with these corners. I mean, you can bring Ogan 820 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: Job back. I think louder Milk is gonna develop that. 821 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: I think they're in a really good, you know, situation 822 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: to whatever their needs are. I'm guessing they won't be 823 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: a lot of them. They might bee be two big 824 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: ones that they can go deal with it. Yeah, absolutely, 825 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: And so I think set themselves up well that way. 826 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: If now I see Robert's Pulaine out there, Oh good, Okay, 827 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: so he is still I don't worry. Was that? Yeah? 828 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the good party. So we got a skeleton 829 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: drill here, we got a seven on seven basically just 830 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: no lineman. Yeah, that's a pretty full group of defenders 831 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: out there. Play the slot, clap, going download to get it. 832 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: Seeing a lot of the claypolet of the slot stuff, 833 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: almost like they listened to the show or we have 834 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: a clue we're talking for that last year exactly right. Um. 835 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you've been asked, but 836 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: I had asked a ton. You know, boy, they've got 837 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: three good receivers, but none of them are slots. How 838 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: is that gonna line up? I'm like, claypol is gonna 839 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: be a slot? Yeah, I mean it's it's different than 840 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: what people think of receivers. You think, well, the little 841 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be in the slot. Well, that's not the 842 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: way football is played today, not as much. I mean 843 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: there's still a place for them, but they're getting phased 844 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: out more and more. Of the Welkers of the world. 845 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: They're just because they're little, you know, yeah, do you 846 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: want to You know, those guys can win over the 847 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: middle like that. And the league's all about big plays. 848 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk to any coach, they'll talk about explosives. 849 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: We gotta create explosives, we gotta eliminate explosives. Well, if 850 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: you have a a big, long, striding deep threat in 851 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: the in the slot, that's another way to create explosives. 852 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Get him. Most of the defensive backs he's gonna work 853 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: against in the slot are gonna be five tenors or 854 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: short right. I mean, with all respect to Hilton and 855 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Milette and guys we really like, I don't want them. 856 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: Guarden Claypool want to go round, you know, right, And 857 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: if he can block, and if he doesn't do the 858 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: dirty work in there, he'll he'll his his career will 859 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: take a spike. Absolutely. I think I think he can 860 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: be You get some cheap throws there too, you know. 861 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: I just think this offense could be pretty special in 862 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: terms of taking a big jump this year from what 863 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: it was. I do think it'll be better at last year. 864 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean I would put took a shot there on 865 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: the outside, didn't quite gack, but had the one on 866 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: one killer Weatherspoon going, Hey, he's pushing off. Can't push 867 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: off like that. Pickens a little physical physical, Yeah, he 868 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: is not bashal. I wonder how you know if that's 869 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: going to be an issue for him during the season one. 870 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't get a reputation and you know, 871 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: ref star calling that stuff because he's he's a little 872 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: borderline with him. He is. He is Matt Williamson. I 873 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: am Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on 874 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are live 875 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: from St. Vincent College here in beautiful later Ope, Pennsylvania. 876 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: It is beautiful today. It's a great it's fantastic out here. Yeah. 877 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: Say they've cleared the fans from the from the field. 878 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: This is conclusion. This is the penultimate drill here again, 879 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: we'll see how Mike Tomlin closes out. Yeah. Really yeah, 880 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: stuck that one right in between about three defenders to 881 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: George Pickens pickings for a touchdown that was a nice row. 882 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: We will take a break. We'll be back with more 883 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: right after this