WEBVTT - How Perkins Tractors Taught Us the Placebo Effect

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Today. If you're asked to think of a tractor, most

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<v Speaker 2>of us probably imagine a large farm vehicle. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the late eighteenth century, a physician named Elijah Perkins made

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<v Speaker 2>and sold a different kind of tractor, a device consisting

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<v Speaker 2>of small metal rods that could cure you simply through touch.

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<v Speaker 2>The Perkins patent Metallic Instruments, or Perkins tractors, as they

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<v Speaker 2>became popularly known, were sold as a pair for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five continental dollars in the United States and five guineas

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<v Speaker 2>in Britain. For some perspective on those numbers, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>few hundred in today's purchase price, and for several years

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<v Speaker 2>people were mad for them. Welcome to Criminalia, I'm Maria Tremarky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Holly Frye. Elisha Perkins's story begins in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born in January of seventeen forty one to

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph Perkins and Mary Bushnall. Joseph was a well respected

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<v Speaker 1>Yale educated physician, and he educated his son in medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Elisha served as his father's assistant while also gaining knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. The age of twenty, the young doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins established his own practice in Plainfield, Connecticut, less than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles from home. He very quickly gained a respectable

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<v Speaker 1>number of patients and was known to be both a

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<v Speaker 1>hard worker and in general a reliable guide. He's described

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<v Speaker 1>in the New York Medical and Physical Journal as having

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<v Speaker 1>been quote possessed by nature uncommon endowments, both bodily and

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<v Speaker 1>mental in his person. He was six feet high and

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<v Speaker 1>of remarkable symmetry. His ability to perform active professional business

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<v Speaker 1>was extraordinary. He frequently rode sixty miles a day, and

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<v Speaker 1>generally on horseback, and this without the aid of artificial stimulants,

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<v Speaker 1>never made making use of ardent spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in his practice in Plainfield when Perkins made

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<v Speaker 2>an observation that changed his life. He quote discovered that

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<v Speaker 2>by drawing over the parts of the body affected in

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<v Speaker 2>particular directions, certain instruments formed from metallic substances into certain

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<v Speaker 2>shapes could remove most kinds of painful topical affections. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that language is a little nebulous. Without more details, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>so here's what's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Though he would later be shamed by his peers for

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<v Speaker 1>his invention. Perkins came to his tractors through good faith,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least he seems to have. His idea was

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<v Speaker 1>based on an observation he had while performing surgery on

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<v Speaker 1>a patient. He noted how a muscle would contract whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he touched it with the point of a metallic instrument,

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<v Speaker 1>and he believed that contraction was the result of muscles

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<v Speaker 1>excreting toxic electrical fluid. Okay, your body's muscles do contract

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<v Speaker 1>and relax based on electrical charges, but this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. He also saw a similar pain response

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<v Speaker 1>in patients when he applied metallic instruments to inflamed tumors

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<v Speaker 1>before he cut into them, and all of this gave

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<v Speaker 1>him a light bulb moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Perkins believed with this discovery he could cure rheumatism, gout,

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<v Speaker 2>and pain resulting from headaches toothicks, sprains, burns. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>just part of a long list. He didn't just up

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<v Speaker 2>and run away with his half baked idea, though. He

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<v Speaker 2>took his observations seriously and took an empiricist role in

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<v Speaker 2>analyzing his experiential evidence. Though it didn't help in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>His next step was to experiment with different metals to

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<v Speaker 2>see which, if any, worked better than others, and if

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<v Speaker 2>any other materials such as wood, had any benefits too.

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<v Speaker 2>It took him several years of experimentation before he settled

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<v Speaker 2>on brass and iron for his device.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen ninety six, Perkins began selling to his patient

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<v Speaker 1>and to the public a new therapeutic device that he

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<v Speaker 1>called the Perkins Tractors. The product, which he patented in

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<v Speaker 1>February that year, was made up of two rods and

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<v Speaker 1>described as quote half rounded on one side while the

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<v Speaker 1>other was flat, usually had the name Perkins Patent Tractors

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<v Speaker 1>stamped upon it. They were rounded at one end and

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<v Speaker 1>drawn out into a sharp point at the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>resembled a horseshoe nail in appearance. So each of these

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<v Speaker 1>rods was about three inches long. And we mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that one rod was made of brass and the other

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<v Speaker 1>was made of iron. While that's true, technically, Perkins decided

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<v Speaker 1>one would be made of an alloy of zinc and copper.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two combined make up brass plus gold and the

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<v Speaker 1>other of iron plus silver and platinum. And this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing worked like this. The tractors were intended to be

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<v Speaker 1>applied to the head, face, feet, breast, side, stomach, and

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<v Speaker 1>back to quote draw off the noxious electrical fluid that

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<v Speaker 1>lay at the root of suffering. When applying it to

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<v Speaker 1>his patients, Perkins drew at points over the affected areas

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<v Speaker 1>of the body in a downward direction, and this whole

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<v Speaker 1>process took about twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>He promoted the tractors as a simple cure ale and

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't need to see a doctor for treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone could use them right at home. They became so

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<v Speaker 2>popular and trendy that people began using all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>things to pay for a pair of their own, from

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<v Speaker 2>trading property to offering horses as currency. Perkins had investors too.

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<v Speaker 2>We know of at least one man in Virginia who

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<v Speaker 2>sold his plantation and invested everything in the product.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're thinking, wait, that's it, Yeah, that's right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is all that it was. By just touching two

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<v Speaker 1>short rods to the afflicted area of your body, poof

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<v Speaker 1>your symptoms would disappear. For what it's worth, he claimed,

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<v Speaker 1>the instruments could also be quote performed even on horses, where,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, such influence could not be presumed to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>The Perkins tractors were a massive hit. Historian James del

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<v Speaker 2>Borgo notes that the device was quote disarmingly simple, and

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<v Speaker 2>according to del Borgo, that simplicity was what made it

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<v Speaker 2>so appealing. Keep in mind that this was a time

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<v Speaker 2>when doctors regularly resorted to such healing measures as bleeding, blistering,

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<v Speaker 2>and purging patients, so compared to that, Perkins tractors were

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<v Speaker 2>a painless alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins promoted his tractors in marketing pamphlets and newspaper advertisements.

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<v Speaker 1>The first campaign began running in papers in early seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven. One spot that appeared in March of that

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<v Speaker 1>year was published in the Aurora General Advertiser of Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and it read, get ready because this is a little long,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing it. Quote doctor Perkins, patent metallic tractors.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Perkins of this city, who has the tractor for sale,

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<v Speaker 1>requests those persons who wish to purchase or receive information

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<v Speaker 1>respecting their efficacy to call on him at his office

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<v Speaker 1>number fourteen South fourth Street, between the hours of seven

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<v Speaker 1>and nine in the morning and from two to three

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the afternoon. As his professional business renders it

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenient for him to attend at any other hour. The

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<v Speaker 1>public may be assured that the doctor has not said

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<v Speaker 1>more of their efficacy in his advertisements or pamphlets of

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<v Speaker 1>certificates than their merit richly deserves. They are worthy the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of every gentleman to keep in his family, and

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<v Speaker 1>particularly to see farming men and planters.

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<v Speaker 2>With his son Benjamin working with him, Perkins published not

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<v Speaker 2>just one but a series of marketing pamphlets describing the

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<v Speaker 2>efficacy of the tractors, and began to include testimonials from

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied clients and patients. In his advertorial pamphlet titled Certificates

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<v Speaker 2>of the Ethica of Doctor Perkins Patent Metallic Instruments. Testimonials

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<v Speaker 2>included this one from William Allen, doctor of Divinity, who noted, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>having had myself for a great many years a pair

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<v Speaker 2>of them, if they have ever relieved pain, I have

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<v Speaker 2>found them all so useful in picking walnuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Prominent names who used Perkins tractors included a list of

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<v Speaker 1>what seems like kind of anyone who's anyone? According to

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<v Speaker 1>an article published in the Yale Journal of Biology and Medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>quote the hospitals and infirmaries opened their doors to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the board of managers of the Almshouse were so

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<v Speaker 1>impressed that they purchased the patent right for the tractors

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<v Speaker 1>for Philadelphia. Even the President of the United States, George Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>purchased a set for use in his own family. The

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Justice of the United States, the Honorable Oliver Ellsworth,

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<v Speaker 1>was convinced of their value, and he not only purchased

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<v Speaker 1>a set, but he also gave Perkins a letter of

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<v Speaker 1>introduction to John Marshall, who later succeeded him as Chief Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall also similarly purchased a set of his own, and

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<v Speaker 1>that certainly did not hurt business.

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<v Speaker 2>At this time in his life, Perkins had a well

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<v Speaker 2>established and successful medical practice. He had become chairman of

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<v Speaker 2>the Wyndham County Medical Association in seventeen ninety five and

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<v Speaker 2>was selected as a delegate to the Connecticut Medical Society.

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<v Speaker 2>He supported higher education, and he opened his home as

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<v Speaker 2>a hospital for those with disabilities who needed care and

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<v Speaker 2>for those who were wealthy enough to pay for private care.

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<v Speaker 2>He set the stage for the founding of the Perkinean

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<v Speaker 2>Institution in London, which gave free tractor therapy to those

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<v Speaker 2>who couldn't afford treatment, but note that it wouldn't open

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<v Speaker 2>its doors though until after his death. His star was rising,

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<v Speaker 2>and by all accounts, he could have had a rewarding

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<v Speaker 2>and prosperous medical career. One of Perkins's biographers put it

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<v Speaker 2>quite well, stating, quote, the stage seemed set for a

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<v Speaker 2>successful career, but it was not to be. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break forward from our sponsors, and when

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<v Speaker 2>we return, we'll talk about the skeptics and how Perkins

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<v Speaker 2>just kept keeping on despite them.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about how while the

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<v Speaker 1>public loved perkins tractors, other physicians weren't so sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about this story of quackery is that, as

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<v Speaker 2>it unfolds, it's more about a medical professional who genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>believed his bogus treatment actually had healing benefits, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>a classic case of what we think of as snake

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<v Speaker 2>oil products and sales. Perkins, as far as we all

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<v Speaker 2>know about him, really did believe his tractors worked, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>it's unlikely a snake oil salesman hawking a mixture of say, water, turpentine,

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<v Speaker 2>and morphine believed his elixir would actually cure headaches or

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<v Speaker 2>typhoid or anything. Perkins tractors were popular and had the

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<v Speaker 2>public's attention as a beneficial medical device. Some of his

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<v Speaker 2>peers endorsed his product and also sought to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how the heck it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Although the public was very into his product, there were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course skeptics. Many physicians were already suspicious of novel

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<v Speaker 1>medical therapies and claims made by contemporaries of Perkins, so

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<v Speaker 1>another cual fad probably felt pretty weary. For instance, this

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<v Speaker 1>was the time when animal magnetism, sometimes called Mesmerism, was

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<v Speaker 1>a hot topic of conversation and a hot topic experts

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to debunk. It was an eighteenth century theory

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<v Speaker 1>based on Anton Mesmer's belief that all living things had

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields running through them and those fields could be

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<v Speaker 1>manipulated for healing. With a buffet of controversial medical theories

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, perkinstractors to many seemed to be just

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<v Speaker 1>more quote delusive quackery, and that well, that resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins's expulsion from the Connecticut Medical Society in May of

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety seven. Even if no one could say why

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work, many thought the whole idea behind his

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<v Speaker 1>tractors was just unbelievable, as detailed in a report by

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<v Speaker 1>the Medical Repository. Quote, whereas doctor Elisha Perkins, a member

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<v Speaker 1>of this Society, having obtained a patent from under the

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<v Speaker 1>authority of the United States, for the exclusive privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>using and vending certain pointed metallic instruments, pretending that they

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<v Speaker 1>were an invention of his own, and also that they

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<v Speaker 1>possess inherent powers of curing many disease, which is contrary

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<v Speaker 1>to rules and regulations adopted by this Society. Therefore voted

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<v Speaker 1>that the said Elisha Perkins be expelled from the Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Society of the State of Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the critics, business was booming in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>and Perkins expanded while Elisha held things down in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. His son Benjamin opened up shop in London,

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<v Speaker 2>making tractors available to England and the larger European market.

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<v Speaker 2>It was reported quote. The tractors were introduced in Copenhagen

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<v Speaker 2>in seventeen ninety eight, where twelve physicians and surgeons, chiefly

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<v Speaker 2>professors and lecturers in the Royal Frederick's Hospital, commenced a

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<v Speaker 2>course of experiments. The experiments fifty in number were deemed

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<v Speaker 2>sufficiently important to demand publication. The professors introduced the term

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<v Speaker 2>Perkinism in honor of the discoverer and asserted that it

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<v Speaker 2>was of great importance to the physician.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Elisha, Benjamin published marketing pamphlets to his European audience.

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<v Speaker 1>He circulated a booklet called the Influence of Metallic Tractors

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<v Speaker 1>on the Human Body in removing various painful inflammatory disease

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<v Speaker 1>such as rheumatism, pleurisy, some gouty affections, etc. Lately discovered

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<v Speaker 1>by doctor Perkins of North America and demonstrated in a

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<v Speaker 1>series of experiments and observations by professors Meg's, Woodward, Rogers, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>By which the importance of the discovery is fully ascertained

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<v Speaker 1>and a new field of inquiry opened in the modern

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<v Speaker 1>sciences of galvanism or animal electricity. Benjamin continually updated these materials,

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<v Speaker 1>adding testimonials from people including physicians, lords and ladies, and

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<v Speaker 1>other prominent members of society who had benefited from the product.

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<v Speaker 1>The Observer and other London papers all printed advertisements for

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<v Speaker 1>his pamphlets.

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<v Speaker 2>While Benjamin was abroad. Elijah turned his focus to a

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<v Speaker 2>serious disease that was rampant and deadly in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States in the late seventeen hundreds, and that's yellow fever.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't give up on his tractors, they were still

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<v Speaker 2>in high demand, but he was convinced that better use

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<v Speaker 2>of antiseptics could stop yellow fever from spreading, and he

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<v Speaker 2>offered to treat anyone suffering from it with a quote

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<v Speaker 2>preparation of common vinegar saturated with muriate of soda, diluted

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<v Speaker 2>with three fourths its quantity of hot water, and administered warm.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, that's right. His antiseptic was vinegar, which, to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair, does have some antimicrobial properties, but nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>would help against a virus like yellow fever, plus some

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<v Speaker 2>salt and water. He also recommended this mixture for dysentery

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<v Speaker 2>and sore throats, and he was overwhelmed with demand from

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<v Speaker 2>people wanting to try his yellow fever cure.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, though, Perkins himself was stricken with the disease and

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<v Speaker 1>his so called cure did not help him. He died

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<v Speaker 1>in September of seventeen ninety nine, when his tractor business

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<v Speaker 1>was actually peaking. We're going to take a break for

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<v Speaker 1>a word from our sponsors, and when we're back. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the fall of Perkins tractors.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about the Perkins tractors

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<v Speaker 2>and the placebo effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins' critics and his proponents performed experiments to better understand

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<v Speaker 1>the tractors and Perkins' theory behind the device. While they

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<v Speaker 1>debated to disregard or to embrace his work, and despite criticism,

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins tractors continued to be commercially successful in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and across the Pond for about another decade. When

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin returned to the United States in eighteen oh seven,

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<v Speaker 1>it's believed he treated or at least supplied tractors to

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<v Speaker 1>as many as one and a half million patients and

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<v Speaker 1>made ten thousand pounds in the process. Their popularity, though

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<v Speaker 1>waned after Benjamin's death in eighteen ten.

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<v Speaker 2>In the end, the skeptics won, but with an interesting twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple physicians conducted tests to see if they could produce

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<v Speaker 2>the same outcome as Perkins, and surprise, they did. London

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<v Speaker 2>physician John Hagarth was at the forefront of this and

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen hundred tested the quote fictitious tractors and he

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<v Speaker 2>found not what he expected. Haygarth performed one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first known single blinded experiments, which means one group of

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<v Speaker 2>subjects was treated with genuine tractors and another with objects

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<v Speaker 2>shaped like tractors but made of something other than metal,

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<v Speaker 2>and Haygarth was the only one who knew who got which.

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<v Speaker 2>He found he could produce the same effects with a

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<v Speaker 2>fake pair of tractors as with the real thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>concluded that the quote whole effect undoubtedly depends upon the

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<v Speaker 2>impression which can be made upon the patient's imagination. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So hold up talk about that, because that's what makes

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<v Speaker 2>the story of Elijah Perkins one that's worth telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Tests conducted in an effort to debunk Perkins found the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of what physicians predicted. It turned out that any

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<v Speaker 1>and all materials used were unexpectedly equally as effective as

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<v Speaker 1>the genuine brass and iron tractors. The takeaway was as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the patient believed they were being treated with

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<v Speaker 1>Perkins tractors, not just told mind you, but believed the

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<v Speaker 1>results were positive. This was and is a great example

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<v Speaker 1>of what we call the placebo effect.

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<v Speaker 2>The placebo effect is a surprisingly powerful phenomenon that has

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<v Speaker 2>been studied extensively in clinical trials. It's the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>the human body can respond to a treatment simply because

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<v Speaker 2>the person believes that treatment will work. So basically, your

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<v Speaker 2>brain tricks you into thinking you're feeling better, though no

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<v Speaker 2>one has proven it could shrink a tumor. Your brain

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<v Speaker 2>can modulate your level of pain or fatigue, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what this is about. Placebos have been used

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<v Speaker 2>in medicine since antiquity, but the word placebo wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>introduced until the eighteenth century, specifically in reference to inert

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<v Speaker 2>substances like saline injections or sugar pills being used instead

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<v Speaker 2>of treatments proven to have real beneficial ingredients. But the

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<v Speaker 2>idea didn't become part of the larger medical vocabulary until

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<v Speaker 2>Haygarth published his findings in a paper titled on the

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<v Speaker 2>Imagination as a Cause and as a Cure of Disorders

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<v Speaker 2>of the Body. That paper directly helped establish what we

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<v Speaker 2>now call the placebo effect. Today, placebos are common in

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<v Speaker 2>medical research and maybe brace yourself for a second. While

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<v Speaker 2>it's not illegal for physicians to give placebos without a

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<v Speaker 2>patient's knowledge, many admit they do prescribe them regularly, despite

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<v Speaker 2>the ethical problem that it raises.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, as stated in a study that was published

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<v Speaker 1>in the British Journal of Medicine in two thousand and eight. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Six hundred and seventy nine physicians responded to the survey.

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<v Speaker 1>About half of the surveyed internists and rheumatologists reported prescribing

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<v Speaker 1>placebo treatments on a regular basis. Most physicians, sixty two percent,

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<v Speaker 1>believe the practice to be ethically permissible. This, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is an ongoing issue of heated debate in the medical community,

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<v Speaker 1>because while some physicians argue that in prescribing a placebo

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<v Speaker 1>you're depriving a patient of bodily autonomy, others, as that

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<v Speaker 1>study showed, think it's perfectly okay to do so if

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to take a moment to digest that,

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<v Speaker 1>please feel free.

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<v Speaker 2>While Elisha Perkins wasn't peddling snake oil in the way

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<v Speaker 2>we might usually think of it, that doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't selling crap. In the end, he turns out to

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<v Speaker 2>likely have been a physician who pursued a mistaken theory

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<v Speaker 2>and did no more harm with his tractors than empty

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<v Speaker 2>and gullible pockets. And it's too bad he died before

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<v Speaker 2>he had the chance to read those papers about his product,

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<v Speaker 2>and this thing called the placebo effect, because surely he

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<v Speaker 2>would have found them fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think he would have been. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to think that he would have been fascinated and

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<v Speaker 1>not defensive, but who knows. I don't know him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him either, but I got that vibe

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<v Speaker 2>from learning about him that he would have been like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool? Right? Shall we use that in some way

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<v Speaker 1>to help people? Will that? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow fever?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a little cures. What ails you? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Does alas that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you will enjoy it? Okay? So this went

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<v Speaker 1>through seven different names, including Wow, including ardent spirits, free

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<v Speaker 1>tractor therapy, I thought a great In the end, we

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<v Speaker 1>called it the placebo effect. Yeah, And what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this drink was incorporate something metallic, but

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<v Speaker 1>also make a drink that kind of hides the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are actually creating the sensation while you're drinking it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it's hard to pick out the ingredients, but

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a sense of coziness and you're not sure why.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't very far off from a whiskey sour, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think you will like it. But it has a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of things that may sound odd, but together they

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<v Speaker 1>do something really nice. Into a shaker with ice, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put three quarters of an ounce of lemon juice,

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<v Speaker 1>a half ounce or so of simple syrup, a half

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of mandarin orange liqueur if you can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't get mandarin, you can do an orange liquur.

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<v Speaker 1>But the mandarin does have a different flavor that I

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<v Speaker 1>quite like. M this is a little predictable, but I

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<v Speaker 1>promise there's a reason other than just the gold flakes.

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<v Speaker 1>But a half ounce of gold schlager, and then an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce and a half if you can get it of

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<v Speaker 1>bacon bourbon. Oh wow. This is like a bourbon that

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<v Speaker 1>my local liquor stores carry. I don't have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time getting it. But if you cannot get it, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just get regular bourbon and throw like a drop

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<v Speaker 1>of liquid smoke in it, and it's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing if you can get it. Also a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of luster dust, like the edible glitter lustra, to

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<v Speaker 1>just put a little in. You don't have to put

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<v Speaker 1>a ton in, and you are gonna shake this and

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<v Speaker 1>pour it into like a rocks glass over fresh ice

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<v Speaker 1>and then top it with soda. Listen, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get fancy on your presentation, you could get like

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<v Speaker 1>a sprig of a pretty neutral garnish like parsley and

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<v Speaker 1>spray it. They make like a silver edible food safe

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<v Speaker 1>spray that you can use like on cakes and cookies

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and you can do your your garnish with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have like a little silver thing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just if you want to do it for presentation. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's what happens when you The cinnamon is the last

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<v Speaker 1>flavor to make itself known, but it does so in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that it's hard to know that it's cinnamon,

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<v Speaker 1>like it mostly tastes a little bit citrusy and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>light and refreshing considering how many things are in it

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<v Speaker 1>that have very heavy flavors. Like something happens with the lemon,

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<v Speaker 1>the orange and the cinnamon and the bacony bourbon that

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<v Speaker 1>it's all smooths each other out and you're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, this is refreshing. It doesn't even taste that alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>But then at the end, oh, there's just a cozy

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<v Speaker 1>sense to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't know why you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, so much like Perkins and stuff, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it works or makes you feel cozy, but it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to actually cure anything. Listen, Citrus is

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<v Speaker 1>good for you in varieties of ways, but that's not

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<v Speaker 1>really This is not a health drink. To make the mocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty simple. You are going to sub out that

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<v Speaker 1>mandarin liqueur for syrup for mandarin syrup. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a mandarin syrup, it's just like we do

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. A cup of sugar, a cup of water,

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<v Speaker 1>some chopped up mandarin oranges, let that simmer and then strain.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing quite delicious. You can also just do

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<v Speaker 1>orange syrup if that's what you can find. A half

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of cinnamon syrup, which same thing. You can make

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<v Speaker 1>your own. If you can't find it, just throw some

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<v Speaker 1>cinnamon sticks in the mix. And then for this one

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the bacon bourbon, we'll do a black tea

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<v Speaker 1>and do what we did. If I said you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find bacon bourbon, toss literally you just need a drop

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<v Speaker 1>of liquid smoke in there, I will say for the mocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're using two syrups you can leave out the

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<v Speaker 1>simple syrup in that one and just do those taste it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want it sweeter, go for it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it needs it. And then same deal. Throw

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<v Speaker 1>in some lustra dust, shake it, shake it, pour it

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<v Speaker 1>over ice, and top it with soda. It's very yummy

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<v Speaker 1>and also very refreshing. But you won't be like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe there's no alcohol in here, because there is

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<v Speaker 1>no alcohol. Don't sub these out and try to confuse anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not cool. That will take away bodily autonomy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not okay. But that is the placebo effect, which

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<v Speaker 1>is surprisingly yummy. I wasn't sure how the mandarin and

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<v Speaker 1>cinnamon would play together, but in fact they're buddies, their buddies.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like them in the original drink. I tasted

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<v Speaker 1>it before I added simple syrup and it was not working.

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<v Speaker 1>You really need that sweetener to like make everybody hold hands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially something if you start playing around with drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that any of our listeners have, there

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<v Speaker 1>are times when you taste it and you're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is trash, and then you'll add just a tiny amount

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<v Speaker 1>of one thing and it's like, oh no, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>As an option, you can also add a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>dashes of angister of bitters to it if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always optional. It changes it a little. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gear shifts the flavor, but not significantly. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is the placebo effect, which, hopefully, if you make it,

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<v Speaker 1>leaves you with the sense of warmth, happiness and yumminess

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't make you angry or suspicious or skeptical of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Fictitious.

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<v Speaker 1>time with us. We will be right back here again

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