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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my colleague West Hodkowitz,

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Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field and West. A lot of news swirling out of

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Speaker 1: twelve sixty five Lombardi Avenue. First and foremost that General

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Speaker 1: Manager Ted Thompson has stepped aside to take a senior

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Speaker 1: advisory role within the football operations, and Mark Murphy will

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Speaker 1: be be beginning a search for a new GM of

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Speaker 1: the Green May Packers. And I'd like to focus our

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Speaker 1: around out there about the coaching staff and some things

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Speaker 1: that may be going on there, but this change at GM.

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Speaker 1: Ted Thompson a thirteen year ten year hired in two

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Speaker 1: thousand five to take over the Packers football operations, Packers

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Speaker 1: undergoing a search now for a new leader at the

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Speaker 1: top of the football chain for the first time in

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Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, And and Mark Murphy when they

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Speaker 1: that him and Ted, they've been talking about this for

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Speaker 1: a number of years. Every year they'd sit down after

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Speaker 1: the season's over have a conversation, and in those really

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Speaker 1: were fluid things and kind of seeing where you know,

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Speaker 1: Thompson sort of saw his future. And and and one of

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Speaker 1: the most reoccurring themes in that Mike was, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a scout and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: looking at this position, a lot of things yet to

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Speaker 1: But as Murphy said, the number one thing is it's

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Speaker 1: like a special assistant to the GM as he said.

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Speaker 1: As Murphy said, I mean just invaluable. The amount of

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Speaker 1: resources and experience that Thompson as, Um, you know, some

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Speaker 1: of that could be based in Green Bay, some of

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Uh, the reason why

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Speaker 1: job is really goes back to what Ron Wolf did,

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Speaker 1: what Ted Thompson did to put the Packers in this position.

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Speaker 1: Now six years later, Um, it comes back to being

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Speaker 1: able to uphold that standard, and that's something that Thompson

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Speaker 1: did for thirteen years. Yeah, you'll have a new GM

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Speaker 1: coming in here who has a franchise quarterback in place,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Ted Thompson as he made the transition as

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Speaker 1: the Packers through it successfully, the transition from one Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback to another, Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: This is a very attractive job. And one thing I

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Speaker 1: thought was interesting that Mark Murphy said is he's not

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Speaker 1: search for Ted Thompson's successor. There are certainly some candidates

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Speaker 1: Salonzo Highsmith, senior personnel executives with long, impressive resumes. You

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Speaker 1: have Russ Ball, who has been managing the Packers salary

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Speaker 1: the last several years, alongside Ted Thompson. But Mark Murphy

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Speaker 1: said there will be outside candidates as well. A consultant

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Speaker 1: search to help identify potential candidates. There's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. It sounds like something could happen

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Speaker 1: will be Mike McCarthy. The new the new GM who

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Speaker 1: to change. The general manager is going to have final

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Speaker 1: And Mark Murphy said, that's going to be the general

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Speaker 1: right after this h Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike

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Speaker 1: Getting back to some more of Mark Murphy's comments with

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Speaker 1: Mark Murphy believes, I know you do too. There aren't

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Speaker 1: Here here's the thing, Mike, I put Ted Chompson truthfully,

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Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account.

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