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Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald in the on deck circle for the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame coming up this Saturday, seventeen seasons
Speaker 2: as the Cardinals wide receiver, eleven time Pro Bowler and
Speaker 2: second NFL receiving touchdown leader and part of the All
Speaker 2: Decade Team first ballot Hall of Fame. Running down the list. Uh,
Speaker 2: pretty good resume there, Larry, Congratulations on the honor. How
Speaker 2: long would it take for you to get ready? If
Speaker 2: you know, like we're waiting for Aaron Donald, how long
Speaker 2: would it take for you to get ready for this season?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think that ship is so no, there's no coming
Speaker 4: back for me, you know. I you know, thinking about
Speaker 4: what Aaron's you know, he's one of those guys. He's
Speaker 4: a fitness freak though. You know, he's a big guy,
Speaker 4: and you know, he just constantly stays in shape. That's
Speaker 4: kind of part of his rituals. So I think his
Speaker 4: bounce back will be a lot quicker. But to be
Speaker 4: out of the game for a few years and get
Speaker 4: back into that the trenches, the double teams and all
Speaker 4: of the things.
Speaker 5: That he's got to deal with, you know's that's quite impressive.
Speaker 2: You think he's coming back.
Speaker 5: I think he's one of.
Speaker 4: Those guys who loves the game and he's going back
Speaker 4: to a team who legitimately has a great chance to
Speaker 4: be able to win a championship with the dishon the
Speaker 4: miles Garrett. You put those two and you know, Young
Speaker 4: and a couple of other guys in that defensive front,
Speaker 4: you know, they present a forumidable challenge for any offensive
Speaker 4: line and scheme that they would play against. And he obviously,
Speaker 4: you know with Puka, Davonte Adams and you know Kuren Williams,
Speaker 4: you know Kerwin and I mean they're loaded over there.
Speaker 2: What is it about pitt Guys? How did you end
Speaker 2: up at Pitt.
Speaker 4: Dan It was actually a crazy story Matrins of coordinator
Speaker 4: Guy Rest. His soul's name was ed Cole. He was
Speaker 4: taking me in a couple of my teammates and unificial visits.
Speaker 4: So we went to University Illinois, we went to Notre Dame,
Speaker 4: were Ohio State, and we were on our way to
Speaker 4: Penn State. It was a really really bad, uh you know,
Speaker 4: rainstorm or the turnpike. So they actually shut the turnpike
Speaker 4: down based on visibility and so stay trooper shut it down.
Speaker 4: My coach said, hey, we can't get up there. We
Speaker 4: call Penn State let them know what happened. They said,
Speaker 4: can we can? We reschedule it for the following day.
Speaker 4: So we had a full day in Pittsburgh and coach
Speaker 4: Cole said, hey, we're here in town, why don't we
Speaker 4: just go visit University of Pittsburgh. You know Dan Marinos,
Speaker 4: Tony dur said, Curtis Martin. He started naming off all
Speaker 4: the great players, and I said, yeah, let's let's just
Speaker 4: go by. Literally, we go over, we meet Wildhare, Shady,
Speaker 4: Brooke Hard, you know, all the coaching staff there. They
Speaker 4: had no idea who I was. We end up leaving
Speaker 4: the next day. We're driving the Penn State. They called
Speaker 4: my coach's cell phone. They offered me a scholarship, and
Speaker 4: it just kind of started from there.
Speaker 2: So if you don't have that rainstorm, you might not
Speaker 2: have ended up at.
Speaker 4: Pitt There's no chance I would have been there because
Speaker 4: they didn't really they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't recruit Minnesota.
Speaker 4: That's not some place they actually go, and so there's
Speaker 4: zero percent chance I would have gone there.
Speaker 2: When did you know you were good?
Speaker 4: I would say when I was when I was young,
Speaker 4: I mean, I was always better than everybody I played against,
Speaker 4: even at seven years old.
Speaker 5: But everybody used to always say, you're.
Speaker 4: From Minnesota, you know you play you know you played
Speaker 4: three eight three a high school football.
Speaker 5: Your competition's horrible. And so I had that seated doubt.
Speaker 4: In my mind a little bit that the competition was
Speaker 4: just that bad. And then I got to college, and
Speaker 4: about week two I realized that I had what it
Speaker 4: to not only just be there, but actually be a
Speaker 4: good player. And if I continue to stay on n trajectory,
Speaker 4: I might have a chance.
Speaker 2: And of course, your dad was a longtime sports writer.
Speaker 2: You're up there in Minnesota covering the Vikings, you get
Speaker 2: to be a ball boy. You've talked about that experience
Speaker 2: many times. But the fact that Randy moss Is knocks
Speaker 2: on your door to tell you you're going into the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame take us back to the first time you
Speaker 2: met Randy moss.
Speaker 5: So my first memory of Randy is pretty vivid. I
Speaker 5: was a ball boy, and being a couple.
Speaker 4: Of ball boys, we're actually in the gym at Mankato State,
Speaker 4: and it was they could walk through the gym to
Speaker 4: head to the practice field and we were in there
Speaker 4: playing basketball, shooting horse and Randy had to walk through
Speaker 4: out there, so they were getting ready to walk through,
Speaker 4: and it was his birthday.
Speaker 5: I think he held out of camp for.
Speaker 4: You know, a day or two or so, I can't remember,
Speaker 4: but it was his first day, so it was a
Speaker 4: huge anticipation and obviously, you know, we'd all followed his
Speaker 4: journey at Marshall and he wanted to see him. And
Speaker 4: I remember him like throws the ball and he hit
Speaker 4: like two three pointers from like about two feet behind
Speaker 4: the three point line, and then before he before he
Speaker 4: comes and he dunks it outside you know, it's like
Speaker 4: you know, the circle there, and he dunks it and
Speaker 4: he walks out, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 4: is so unbelievable. I'm fourteen years old at the time
Speaker 4: and just so enamored and like that was my first
Speaker 4: experience in moss What.
Speaker 2: Was your welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 5: Happened Week two my rookie year. We played the New
Speaker 5: England Patriots and.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget I was I was going to running
Speaker 4: across the route and William McGinnis like rearranged my whole
Speaker 4: face masses back when they used to really like collision
Speaker 4: you and he was. He was dropping out in the
Speaker 4: coverage and I wasn't paying attention and he decapitated me.
Speaker 4: I got up, and then my coach was like, you
Speaker 4: gotta be more physically, you gotta be more physical.
Speaker 5: So there's quarters. I come up and I hit Rodney here.
Speaker 4: Because as hard as I can drop them on the ground,
Speaker 4: and to look in his eyes, he's chasing me back
Speaker 4: to the huddle. And I get back to the sylum like, coach,
Speaker 4: why did you have me do to this man? It
Speaker 4: is absolutely crazy? And he proceeded to chase me around
Speaker 4: the rest of the game. I could not wait till
Speaker 4: that game was over, and I realized, like, why the
Speaker 4: Patriots defense. You know they had Teddy Bruski and Mike
Speaker 4: Brabel and Ted Johnson, and I mean, like these dudes
Speaker 4: were Vince will Fork. I mean these dudes were massive, physical, mean, aggressive,
Speaker 4: angry men. And I learned that at twenty years old
Speaker 4: very quickly.
Speaker 2: I could imagine Rodney Harrison was gonna get you back,
Speaker 2: because Rodney Rodney got everybody. I remember, he told me
Speaker 2: that he got fined or got suspended. He had a
Speaker 2: shot on Jerry Rice across the middle. He said, I
Speaker 2: took him out. That's what you're supposed to do. Game's
Speaker 2: changed a little bit since that.
Speaker 4: Larry, it has it has. I think it's much better.
Speaker 4: Guys could play a lot longer, and you know, I
Speaker 4: think we need we needed to make the game a
Speaker 4: little bit safer. It's it's it's not as nearly as
Speaker 4: violent going across that middle. You know, the Steve at
Speaker 4: Waters and the Joey Browners and the Jack Tatums of
Speaker 4: the world, you know, will be very disappointed in a
Speaker 4: way we play game.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking, Larry Fitzgerald, got the big speech coming up.
Speaker 2: How many times you practiced it?
Speaker 5: I practiced it a ton of times, actually working.
Speaker 4: Very closely with colleague of yours, Jerry Madaline, you know,
Speaker 4: helping me kind of get trying to get prepared for it, so,
Speaker 4: you know, five or six times a day, so to
Speaker 4: make sure I have it have it down pad on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Okay, our tears in the script.
Speaker 5: Tears were never in the script. You know, you know that,
Speaker 5: but you never know how you're going to respond.
Speaker 4: You know, you see family and friends and people who
Speaker 4: have really played a massive role in your life, shitting
Speaker 4: in the front, and you know, I just don't know
Speaker 4: how I'm going to respond to to them, you know,
Speaker 4: if they're emotional, or one of my kids is emotional.
Speaker 5: You know things you can't really practice that.
Speaker 2: And your son is going to induct you.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, my oldest son, Devin, He's going to come
Speaker 4: out and do it. I'm really really happy. I was
Speaker 4: going to originally have my father do it before he
Speaker 4: passed away a couple of months ago. But you know,
Speaker 4: to be able to have my son do it, it's
Speaker 4: it's a tremendous honor and I'm so privileged to have that.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough when you see your son out
Speaker 2: there and he starts talking about dad.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got my daughter's wedding coming up in two weeks
Speaker 2: and I got to give a speech, and I'm already
Speaker 2: a mess. I practice it every single day, and I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a mess when nobody is there listening to me.
Speaker 2: So I can't imagine what that's going to be like.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're going to see your life in front
Speaker 2: of you with all teammates, former teammates and people from
Speaker 2: college and high school and you'll probably be a mess,
Speaker 2: and that's okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely will be.
Speaker 4: Dan, let me ask you this, Are you going to
Speaker 4: be crying because of the speech and emotions or are
Speaker 4: you gonna be thinking about how much it.
Speaker 5: Costs you for your daughter's wedding? Will be?
Speaker 2: I already tried. I already cried about that. Yeh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: As I told people, it takes a village to put
Speaker 2: on a wedding. It takes a bank account as well
Speaker 2: to put on on a wedding. But yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a mess and I don't know how
Speaker 2: to prevent myself from crying. Has anybody told you if
Speaker 2: you do this you might not cry, or this is
Speaker 2: the best thing to do to not be too emotional.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I think that it will draw emotions, and people have
Speaker 4: told me it's going to be one of the most
Speaker 4: emotional things you've ever done. You know you have, You've
Speaker 4: been planned for thirty years and you know this is
Speaker 4: the culmination of that, the greatest honor you could ever have,
Speaker 4: and so it should be emotional. It shouldn't mean something
Speaker 4: to you. But I think the more you practice and
Speaker 4: the more you're prepared, you know when you do have
Speaker 4: those emotions, you can be able to work through it
Speaker 4: and get back to the messages you're trying to deliver.
Speaker 2: And acknowledging your father as well.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, Pops played a big role.
Speaker 4: None of it would even be possible it wasn't for
Speaker 4: his sacrifices. You know, he put me in these positions
Speaker 4: around people that I could learn from and have some
Speaker 4: wonderful mentors.
Speaker 5: And so, you know, his presence and his.
Speaker 4: Breath of knowledge and fingerprints are all over my life.
Speaker 2: Go back to the Randy Moss loaning you his car
Speaker 2: when he went to prom What what kind of car
Speaker 2: was it that Randy Moss lent you?
Speaker 4: It was a It was a blue seven forty five
Speaker 4: l I I.
Speaker 5: Still remember like it was yesterday. It was. It was
Speaker 5: immaculine shape.
Speaker 4: And you know once a more detail I left out
Speaker 4: when I asked him about it was. You know, I
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't know. I didn't tell him that I
Speaker 4: didn't have my driver's license yet, and so.
Speaker 5: You know, and I don't know how. I don't know
Speaker 5: how your dad was.
Speaker 4: But my dad when he was home, because he was
Speaker 4: always traveling covering the twins in the summertime, he was
Speaker 4: in Kansas City or Detroit or Cleveland or Chicago company
Speaker 4: White Sox. So when he got home, he really didn't
Speaker 4: want to he was trying to be home, and so
Speaker 4: he would have throw me the keys to the Potiac
Speaker 4: and I would just get the drive up to the
Speaker 4: park and go practice and work out. And so he
Speaker 4: would always tell me to take the backstreet, so I
Speaker 4: felt like I could drive.
Speaker 5: I never went on the freeway or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Took the side street, so I felt like I was
Speaker 4: pretty I was pretty solid with the car. But I
Speaker 4: never really had anybody else in the car with me,
Speaker 4: you know, so it was a it was a memory.
Speaker 4: I got it back to them, no issues. I didn't
Speaker 4: I didn't tell my dates, mom and Daddy.
Speaker 5: That I didn't have a license.
Speaker 3: Ed.
Speaker 5: We kept all those things to ourselves.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Can you can you thank your hands
Speaker 2: during your Hall of Fame speech for me? Just a
Speaker 2: little comic relief up there?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Was it Freddie Mitchell who thanked his hands? Remember the
Speaker 2: Eagles wide receiver? I think you thanked his hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're not You're not somebody who is.
Speaker 4: That's not really much. That's not really much, jam and uh,
Speaker 4: you know I feel like I did. I did have
Speaker 4: good hands, but I worked at it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It was thousands and thousands of hours of.
Speaker 4: You know, catching catching balls consistently to try to get
Speaker 4: them to where they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see you didn't fall in line with the
Speaker 2: diva wide receivers that.
Speaker 5: I was just as big. I was just as big
Speaker 5: of a diva as everyone else. But I never I
Speaker 5: never did it in public.
Speaker 4: You know, I'd always keep it to myself or you know,
Speaker 4: if I had a question about targets, things that make
Speaker 4: sure I would do it in a way where you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't showing up anybody or didn't put me in
Speaker 4: a position where I would, you know, seem to be
Speaker 4: more more worried about my own personal you know, ask
Speaker 4: and accomplishments than it was for my team. And so
Speaker 4: you know, I wanted it just as bad as anybody
Speaker 4: else did, but I knew there was a way to
Speaker 4: do it in a way not to do it, in
Speaker 4: my opinion.
Speaker 2: Congrats, been fun watching and uh you know this is uh,
Speaker 2: this is your moment. You've earned it, first Balance Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. Good luck, this weekend.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you great seeing you out of Tahoe,
Speaker 4: and graduations to you and your family on your daughter's wedding.
Speaker 5: And I hope you have an amazing time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Larry.
Speaker 5: All Right, they have a great day.
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Speaker 2: He is the two time Amazon best selling author speak speaker.
Speaker 2: He was the bookmaker at the center of the show
Speaker 2: Hey U Tani Epei Mizuhara sports betting scandal. Matt Boyer
Speaker 2: was sentenced to one year in a day, pleading guilty
Speaker 2: for money laundering, falsified tax returns, illegal bookmaking. I talked
Speaker 2: to him after yesterday's show, and I started out by
Speaker 2: asking him, when is the first time you took a
Speaker 2: bet from Shoheu Toni's interpreter.
Speaker 7: I believe it's twenty twenty one, that the end of
Speaker 7: the the end of the season of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: How were you introduced?
Speaker 7: I actually met him at a poker game after I
Speaker 7: was introduced to him by going to a private poker
Speaker 7: game with some of the Angels players and coaches and
Speaker 7: friends at a local hilton in San Diego.
Speaker 2: When did you realize that he worked for show?
Speaker 3: Hay?
Speaker 7: I mean I knew right away, of course, I mean
Speaker 7: who it didn't right He was such a popular character,
Speaker 7: probably the most popular interpreter in the world thanks to show.
Speaker 2: Hey, of course, at what's your role as a bookie
Speaker 2: of keeping somebody betting? But also is there a sympathetic
Speaker 2: side to being a bookie when you realize somebody is
Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a fine line.
Speaker 7: As a legal book maker, you're giving out reddit and
Speaker 7: it's a tough way of trying to make a living
Speaker 7: but also not being greedy and egotistical and then trying
Speaker 7: to maintain giving someone in a relationship to where you're
Speaker 7: not hurting their family or their.
Speaker 8: Situation with their bills or it's a very fine line.
Speaker 7: The more you get to know the person and more
Speaker 7: you understand them and what they do for a living,
Speaker 7: then the more you can help them. If they are
Speaker 7: having a gambling problem, which you know, I personally had
Speaker 7: one as well, so I understand that dynamic better than anyone.
Speaker 7: But you're right, it's a hard line to figure out.
Speaker 7: And sometimes oftentimes they're lying to you because they're gambling
Speaker 7: with you and they want to give you them an
Speaker 7: impression that it's not affecting them, you know, at home
Speaker 7: or financially, because they want to continue to bet with
Speaker 7: you or get credit or ask you for more credit.
Speaker 7: So those are the situations that come up. They're hard
Speaker 7: to I'm going to say, run and figure out, because
Speaker 7: when you are dealing with these people, you know, at
Speaker 7: least in my case, you have a heart. I mean,
Speaker 7: the last thing you want to see is if someone
Speaker 7: just losing more money than they can afford.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at what point are you allowed or do
Speaker 2: you ask that's a lot of money you're betting, does
Speaker 2: show hey know you're betting this.
Speaker 8: Trith Be told. When EPA came to me, it was
Speaker 8: a tiny account.
Speaker 7: It was one thousand and eight thousand dollars credit line,
Speaker 7: so I, you know, initially I thought it was no
Speaker 7: big deal, and then that escalated very rapidly to the
Speaker 7: point of about thirty days later we were at a
Speaker 7: half a million to a million dollar credit line.
Speaker 8: And then I knew at that point it had.
Speaker 7: To be either show Hey or him together, or maybe he,
Speaker 7: you know, had some funds.
Speaker 8: I didn't know about him.
Speaker 7: You really don't know everyone's personal private lifestyle. Maybe he
Speaker 7: was a large investor in something. But then when I
Speaker 7: started getting into the point of millions and millions, then
Speaker 7: I knew that either.
Speaker 8: Show Hey was involved or they were partners.
Speaker 7: I wasn't really sure, and I didn't ask a lot
Speaker 7: of questions because animinity in my business when I was
Speaker 7: running a book making operation was key. I had a
Speaker 7: lot of clients in celebrities and athletes CEOs that were
Speaker 7: very private, and that's why they liked working with me
Speaker 7: because of that privacy.
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I was being paid, you know,
Speaker 8: five hundred thousand dollars every two weeks.
Speaker 7: So the greedy sided me of running a business and
Speaker 7: making a lot of money. Was just like, you know,
Speaker 7: everything's running smoothly. He's not even making any signs of
Speaker 7: you know, panicking or even really he was laughing and
Speaker 7: making fun of himself quite often. If you look at
Speaker 7: the text messages that the government, you know throughout which
Speaker 7: is there was quite a few of them, you could
Speaker 7: see us joking back and forth about both of us
Speaker 7: being degenerates and losing money through book makers, slash casinos,
Speaker 7: et cetera.
Speaker 2: So you didn't know that sho heey O Tani knew,
Speaker 2: not for a fact, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean I didn't have a relationship with show Hey
Speaker 7: at that time. He spoke very little English. And I've
Speaker 7: been around the team and some players. I used to
Speaker 7: play golf with some of the players and gamble with them,
Speaker 7: and quite a few of the Angels players were betting
Speaker 7: through my organization, but my relationship was with Dpey. I
Speaker 7: never spoke about anything outside of that to even the players,
Speaker 7: even like, for example, some of the players were betting
Speaker 7: with me, I wouldn't discuss their business with the other players.
Speaker 8: That being said, I don't think a lot of these
Speaker 8: guys knew.
Speaker 7: I'm saying I'm talking about the Angels players knew the
Speaker 7: extent of what was going on because the EPA was
Speaker 7: very private, didn't have a lot to say, you know,
Speaker 7: very wanted things to be low key.
Speaker 8: I realized now why at.
Speaker 7: The time I thought, personally, I thought show Hay was
Speaker 7: betting with him because of the amount of bets that
Speaker 7: they were making and.
Speaker 8: Clearly the amount of money that was being wired.
Speaker 7: I just figured he had to have known, especially with
Speaker 7: that long period of time and you're seeing five hundred
Speaker 7: thousand more wires come out about to count every two
Speaker 7: weeks for.
Speaker 8: Basically a year and a half.
Speaker 7: I just, even to this day, I still don't understand
Speaker 7: how showhy didn't wasn't aware.
Speaker 8: I do believe wholeheartedly that he never gambled.
Speaker 7: I don't think he was placing any of the bets
Speaker 7: or involved in that part at all.
Speaker 2: He s Matt Boyer, two time Amazon best selling author
Speaker 2: and at the center of the show, Heyutani, if a
Speaker 2: music Haara sports betting scandal, how many athletes give us
Speaker 2: a sense are betting this way that you dealt with
Speaker 2: that we're betting through a booking.
Speaker 7: I estimate at least fifty sixty percent it's probably even
Speaker 7: higher because the reality is everyone's using third party people
Speaker 7: and beards and people to vet through.
Speaker 8: You know, let's be real competitive.
Speaker 7: Athletes are very competitive in everything they do, and sports is.
Speaker 7: If you're a sports fan, as you and I both are,
Speaker 7: we watch all sports.
Speaker 8: And whether you gamble or not, you generally like to
Speaker 8: have some sort.
Speaker 7: Of play in the game, whether it's fantasy betting. A friend,
Speaker 7: you know, you go, I don't know about you. Do
Speaker 7: you even golf?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 2: I golf. I'm a guy who gambled a long, long,
Speaker 2: long time ago and quit cold turkey?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Do you so you don't gamble on the golf course?
Speaker 8: Five bucks? Seven bucks?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 8: Okay, that's rare, right.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you go to a golf course, you'll
Speaker 7: see that most people that golf, whether they gamble a
Speaker 7: lot or little, it's usually a dollar or five dollars,
Speaker 7: twenty dollars whatever. Most people gamble almost everything they do
Speaker 7: when it comes to that, I think athletes are even
Speaker 7: higher because the fact they're so competitive and they like
Speaker 7: to win it all cost.
Speaker 2: But these there's current athletes. Met These are current athletes
Speaker 2: who are still betting.
Speaker 8: Definitely, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: How many bookies are there left in America?
Speaker 8: Millions?
Speaker 7: I mean they're everywhere, literally throughout the country. There's at
Speaker 7: least a million book makers. Now some of them might
Speaker 7: only have ten or twenty clients, you know, very small.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of small operations. There are just local
Speaker 7: bookmakers at golf courses or whatnot.
Speaker 8: But there's millions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't know if it was a shrinking
Speaker 2: because you have all these other gambling sites where you
Speaker 2: can go and do it above board. But a lot
Speaker 2: of guys love that, you know, they're not paying taxes
Speaker 2: that you know you can do it in a clandestine way.
Speaker 2: So what's next for you?
Speaker 7: You know, I'm excited about this journey. I'm rebuilding, as
Speaker 7: you know you just said. I have two books that
Speaker 7: I produced, one of them I just did right when
Speaker 7: I got out of prison. And public speaking and giving
Speaker 7: back to people that you know, maybe hopefully NFL teams,
Speaker 7: NBA teams, college athletes. I'd like to go to these
Speaker 7: schools and universities and give a public speaking event to
Speaker 7: where I can help these kids avoid going down the
Speaker 7: wrong path. I have the best experience because I've been
Speaker 7: on both sides, not always a gambler, but as a
Speaker 7: bookmaker and dealing with athletes, and I understand that it's
Speaker 7: easy to fall into that trap of you know, not
Speaker 7: only betting.
Speaker 8: Yourself, but maybe trying to sway.
Speaker 7: A game, you know, fixing a game to make a
Speaker 7: few extra dollars, especially these college athletes. And now you're
Speaker 7: singing in with all these pros that are you know,
Speaker 7: Terry Rosier and Chauncey Billups and guys that you would
Speaker 7: never anticipate getting into trouble because they're wealthy and you know.
Speaker 8: They're NBA athletes. But it's sad that it's happening.
Speaker 7: If I could persuade a kid from doing that at
Speaker 7: or a professional athlete than by giving a public speaking event,
Speaker 7: then I feel like I'm doing something great. So I
Speaker 7: plan on doing that and just building my personal brand.
Speaker 2: Did you take any action? Were there any suspicious bets
Speaker 2: where you thought somebody might be fixing a game?
Speaker 7: You know, just in the UFC there was a particular
Speaker 7: fight that I saw a lot of people coming in
Speaker 7: vetting on and there was a fight that was rigged
Speaker 7: and they got caught and they obviously.
Speaker 8: Got barred from the UFC tennis matches.
Speaker 7: I saw quite a bit lower level, you know, like
Speaker 7: the two three hundred top three hundred players in the nation,
Speaker 7: not these high level ones that I'm aware of, you know,
Speaker 7: top twenty, top one hundred. So those are the usually
Speaker 7: the guys who are really not making a ton of money,
Speaker 7: that are, you know, trying to find other edges to
Speaker 7: make an earning on the side, sadly the wrong way.
Speaker 2: If I ask you to fix a sporting event, which
Speaker 2: one are you fixing?
Speaker 7: Tennis is the easiest by far, not even close, I mean,
Speaker 7: because you can make it so unobvious by you know,
Speaker 7: just playing a particular set or a game for example,
Speaker 7: you know, tennis works.
Speaker 8: You've got to win, and men's usually three out of five.
Speaker 7: I mean, you could just throw set one, come back
Speaker 7: and win the next you know three. And if you
Speaker 7: throw set one and you're a favorite, especially then the
Speaker 7: underdog is the value is very big on.
Speaker 2: That sounds like that's happened many times.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you think about it in tennis, drat
Speaker 7: to tennis wise, you still win. So the guy who
Speaker 7: threw set one could still win the match and still
Speaker 7: get paid and still keep his status, and nobody really
Speaker 7: gets harmed in that sense in his mind. Of course,
Speaker 7: there's somebody getting harmed who's gambling on the sport and
Speaker 7: has basically betting a bet that they're going to lose,
Speaker 7: and they don't.
Speaker 8: Even know it.
Speaker 7: And the integrity of the sport more importantly is the problem.
Speaker 7: And that's that's what I hate to see more than anything.
Speaker 7: I knew in twenty eighteen when gambling became legal this
Speaker 7: was going to happen. And I've been saying it even
Speaker 7: before I with the prison, that is only going to
Speaker 7: get worse. And really, you're going to see. The sad
Speaker 7: part is these young kids. You know, I have five children,
Speaker 7: and three of them are young adults who have their
Speaker 7: you know, boyfriends or kids come over and I hear
Speaker 7: it all day long.
Speaker 8: They're all gambling and they're young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, I agree, Yeah, that's a sweet spot
Speaker 2: of eighteen to twenty four.
Speaker 4: Men.
Speaker 2: I keep saying, I've been down that road, and thank
Speaker 2: God I wise enough to quit gambling because I see
Speaker 2: where we're headed with this. Are you worried about your
Speaker 2: safety at all through all of this?
Speaker 7: No, definitely not. I mean, don't get me wrong. Anything
Speaker 7: can happen, especially this crazy world we're living.
Speaker 5: In it.
Speaker 7: But you know I've been I made my peace with everybody.
Speaker 7: I've done everything I can to make it right. And
Speaker 7: you know I'm not an angel. I've done some things
Speaker 7: in my life I'm not so proud of, but I've
Speaker 7: done more than I am proud of. So I don't
Speaker 7: really have any any means per se that are looking
Speaker 7: for me.
Speaker 2: So no, thanks for joining us, Matt, Good luck with
Speaker 2: the journey.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, Dan, I really appreciate it. Spend
Speaker 8: an honor.
Speaker 2: Warwyer. We did the interview yesterday after the show. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't want to glamorize anything with this person. I
Speaker 2: know he's got an agenda. I know that he's got
Speaker 2: to make money. You know, the government ten million dollars
Speaker 2: from what I'm told, probably wants to look at doing
Speaker 2: a movie deal on this. So there's a lot involved,
Speaker 2: you know, the tennis aspect of fixing a tennis match,
Speaker 2: and we've had examples of this, it's happened recently. The
Speaker 2: number of players athletes who do bet through bookies. Now,
Speaker 2: there was no DraftKings or fan duel. When I was
Speaker 2: growing up, I bet through a bookie. If I was
Speaker 2: growing up now, i'd be all over that app. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be going through a bookie. But a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't want people to know what they're doing. They
Speaker 2: don't want you to be able to follow their activity
Speaker 2: that they want to be able to do something clean.
Speaker 2: It's with somebody. You don't know how much I'm making
Speaker 2: or how much I lost, so there's less of a
Speaker 2: paper trail. I understand that it's going to continue. That's
Speaker 2: why I wanted to know how many bookies. I was
Speaker 2: told there's probably ten real bookies left in America. Like
Speaker 2: prominent bookies. Now you have guys who will take some action.
Speaker 2: But as far as true bookies, a source told me
Speaker 2: probably ten major players in America.
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Speaker 2: twenty eleven, Richard Dent, Chris Hanberger, Les Richter, Ed Sable, Dion,
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Speaker 2: Are you playing golf right now?
Speaker 3: I am Dan, I'm at Firestone. You jealous?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, I love Firestone that's tight. Tight. Fairways there, Marshall,
Speaker 2: do well, very h what's your handicap?
Speaker 3: Now? Good?
Speaker 2: Your handicap's good?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's the number.
Speaker 3: There's there's no numbers. I use letters.
Speaker 2: Good okay. But if you're playing, am I giving you shots.
Speaker 6: Or I'm giving you I'm giving you shots right now,
Speaker 6: I'm playing to about a four or five okay.
Speaker 2: Most famous person you played golf with, oh man.
Speaker 3: Iiger?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 3: Went well? Went well? Went well? Went well for him? Damn.
Speaker 6: It just sounds so different, man, Like when they hit
Speaker 6: the ball, It's like, I'm like, oh my god, it
Speaker 6: sounds so different.
Speaker 2: It is if you go to a driving range or
Speaker 2: you know, the range when you go to the Masters
Speaker 2: or any you know, and just listen certain guys. I
Speaker 2: always say, show heyu Tani the ball leaves his bat
Speaker 2: differently than anybody else. And you go by some of
Speaker 2: these guys and when they they hit the ball, you
Speaker 2: can see it's the size of a penny on their
Speaker 2: club of where they hit it over and over and over.
Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like when you hit it correctly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, it's it's it's crazy. It's crazy that is this.
Speaker 6: I mean, just to listen to him hit the ball
Speaker 6: and there's this little spot on his on his on
Speaker 6: his club face that's a little rusty, and he hits
Speaker 6: it every time.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the resurgence of the running back?
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it man.
Speaker 6: You know if you watch here's the thing, the surprise
Speaker 6: in Seattle letting Kennt Walker go. That was prize. But
Speaker 6: we all know this. Everybody likes to throw the ball.
Speaker 6: You depend on the quarterback, can't touch him. But once
Speaker 6: we get into playoff football, what is it about? What
Speaker 6: did they say, Oh, you got to run the ball.
Speaker 6: That's like, that's literally what everybody says.
Speaker 2: But who was the first hybrid running back where you
Speaker 2: were you were running and catching?
Speaker 6: Well, I know, I know for me it was watching
Speaker 6: Roger Craig was like it that was that was he
Speaker 6: was my guy. Ok, you know that was like, that
Speaker 6: was like the guy that I watched that I saw
Speaker 6: do it. I remember playing when I was a Saints
Speaker 6: fan as a kid, watching the forty nine ers come
Speaker 6: in and beat the crop out of us. But he
Speaker 6: was the guy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I always thought Ricky Waters was the first that you know,
Speaker 2: he was rushing I think he ran for ten ten
Speaker 2: thousand yards. And he also said, oh, are you getting
Speaker 2: ready to hit right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, all right, I'm listening.
Speaker 3: It's all good.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. The yardage here looks like, uh
Speaker 2: you on a part three? Yep, okay three?
Speaker 3: I hit there?
Speaker 2: Oh you did I hit the gree Are you playing
Speaker 2: with any other?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, Eric Differson's here as well.
Speaker 2: Tell him my settle low.
Speaker 3: I will, I will, But I mean Ricky Waters did it.
Speaker 6: But I'm talking about think about this, okay, And and
Speaker 6: and I felt like I didn't do him an injustice.
Speaker 6: I didn't bring enough attention to the whole thousand thousand club.
Speaker 6: We pretend like this happening all the time. There's only
Speaker 6: three guys in the history of the league has ever
Speaker 6: done it, you know, and people just don't pay.
Speaker 3: Attention to it.
Speaker 6: But he was a fullback, and he played half back,
Speaker 6: and he caught the football and rushed.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just unbelievable what he did.
Speaker 6: But because you had Jerry Rice and Dwight Clark, people
Speaker 6: just didn't pay attention to him.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Is Teeki barbera Hall.
Speaker 6: Of Famer hundred percent hundred percent. And here's the thing,
Speaker 6: this is why he gets in. If you look at
Speaker 6: if we let Devin hester in, if you look at
Speaker 6: him as a returner and a running back, he gets in.
Speaker 3: We let Devin hester In.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd love the resurgence here the running back.
Speaker 2: But you know, you're still seeing receivers get ten million
Speaker 2: dollars more than what these you know, these running backs
Speaker 2: are getting. And it feels like I can get receivers
Speaker 2: getting some of the Bijon and Jamiir Gibbs, h Taylor
Speaker 2: got extended. CMC is still really good. Like there's only
Speaker 2: a handful of those guys. It feels like in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Man nobody, nobody will talk about why that's the case.
Speaker 6: You really didn't care about why receivers much in a sense,
Speaker 6: you know, unless you were a Randy Moss or a
Speaker 6: Jerry Rice Michael Werb and that kind of type of guy.
Speaker 6: But what what what literally happened was the game changed
Speaker 6: and when you protect the quarterback by you can't hit him,
Speaker 6: and then and then you can't hit the receivers, you know,
Speaker 6: defenseless receiver.
Speaker 3: They haven't made a rule for the running back. What
Speaker 3: did they said?
Speaker 6: I like this from Texas stof what did they say,
Speaker 6: you can't if you have the backup high, you can't hit.
Speaker 3: Him in the knees too.
Speaker 6: Then we would come back too, But they made all
Speaker 6: these rules that make that make it advantageous for throwing
Speaker 6: the football, and so that's what you do, you throw
Speaker 6: the football.
Speaker 2: We had Eric Dickerson on a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: and he said that he has to sleep sitting up,
Speaker 2: like all the different injuries that we don't see what
Speaker 2: happens to you guys, ten fifteen, twenty years after the fact,
Speaker 2: I bring up Earl Campbell when I saw him in
Speaker 2: a wheelchair. It broke my heart because we care what
Speaker 2: you give us on a Sunday. And then after that
Speaker 2: we move on to the next guy. Do you have
Speaker 2: any lingering injuries issues?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm I'm literally going through all the
Speaker 6: tests now trying to make sure you know this whole
Speaker 6: new thing of of you know, making sure your head
Speaker 6: is good with all the ct stuff that the league
Speaker 6: is doing, all the Parkinson stuff that's linked to CTE.
Speaker 6: I'm going through all of that right now, Dan, just
Speaker 6: to just to make sure that I'm you know that
Speaker 6: I'm that I'm okay, that that I might have a
Speaker 6: quality of life, you know, through my fifties and sixties
Speaker 6: and hopefully seventies.
Speaker 2: You know, but you didn't take too many big hits,
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 6: It don't take a big hit, you know, it's not
Speaker 6: about getting it just takes a hit. It doesn't have
Speaker 6: to be a big hit.
Speaker 2: What's the one that uh, welcome to the NFL hit
Speaker 2: you got?
Speaker 6: Oh man talking crap to the lake to the late
Speaker 6: junior say out Because we were both in San Diego
Speaker 6: and I finally get a chance to play him and
Speaker 6: uh and and I put a move on him, and
Speaker 6: I cut back and I looked back at him, and
Speaker 6: Kurt Govea leveled me, and I was I was down.
Speaker 6: I was looking at the sideline and I was looking
Speaker 6: at the huddle, and I'm saying to myself, the huddle
Speaker 6: is closer.
Speaker 2: So you limped back to the huddle.
Speaker 6: Oh man, I made my way back to the huddle,
Speaker 6: got my faculties together, and you know, stop talking trash.
Speaker 2: Who do you nerd out over when you see them
Speaker 2: at the Hall of Fame or.
Speaker 3: Time Tony Dorset? Every time?
Speaker 6: Man, that thirty three, that thirty three you know, the
Speaker 6: cowboys with the star and all of that.
Speaker 3: Man A big, big fan of Dorsets. Man.
Speaker 2: How's he doing? Okay, okay, yeah, well, thanks for interrupting
Speaker 2: your golf game there.
Speaker 3: And tell any time for you, all right
Speaker 2: Tell tell Eric I said it low and thanks again
Speaker 2: more all right man, take care, Marshall Faulk