WEBVTT - Best of the Week on The Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Larry Fitzgerald in the on deck circle for the Pro

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<v Speaker 2>Football Hall of Fame coming up this Saturday, seventeen seasons

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<v Speaker 2>as the Cardinals wide receiver, eleven time Pro Bowler and

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<v Speaker 2>second NFL receiving touchdown leader and part of the All

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<v Speaker 2>Decade Team first ballot Hall of Fame. Running down the list. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good resume there, Larry, Congratulations on the honor. How

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<v Speaker 2>long would it take for you to get ready? If

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we're waiting for Aaron Donald, how long

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<v Speaker 2>would it take for you to get ready for this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that ship is so no, there's no coming

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<v Speaker 4>back for me, you know. I you know, thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>what Aaron's you know, he's one of those guys. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a fitness freak though. You know, he's a big guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, he just constantly stays in shape. That's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of part of his rituals. So I think his

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<v Speaker 4>bounce back will be a lot quicker. But to be

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<v Speaker 4>out of the game for a few years and get

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<v Speaker 4>back into that the trenches, the double teams and all

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<v Speaker 4>of the things.

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<v Speaker 5>That he's got to deal with, you know's that's quite impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>You think he's coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's one of.

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<v Speaker 4>Those guys who loves the game and he's going back

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<v Speaker 4>to a team who legitimately has a great chance to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to win a championship with the dishon the

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<v Speaker 4>miles Garrett. You put those two and you know, Young

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<v Speaker 4>and a couple of other guys in that defensive front,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they present a forumidable challenge for any offensive

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<v Speaker 4>line and scheme that they would play against. And he obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>you know with Puka, Davonte Adams and you know Kuren Williams,

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<v Speaker 4>you know Kerwin and I mean they're loaded over there.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about pitt Guys? How did you end

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<v Speaker 2>up at Pitt.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan It was actually a crazy story Matrins of coordinator

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<v Speaker 4>Guy Rest. His soul's name was ed Cole. He was

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<v Speaker 4>taking me in a couple of my teammates and unificial visits.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went to University Illinois, we went to Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 4>were Ohio State, and we were on our way to

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<v Speaker 4>Penn State. It was a really really bad, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 4>rainstorm or the turnpike. So they actually shut the turnpike

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<v Speaker 4>down based on visibility and so stay trooper shut it down.

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<v Speaker 4>My coach said, hey, we can't get up there. We

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<v Speaker 4>call Penn State let them know what happened. They said,

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<v Speaker 4>can we can? We reschedule it for the following day.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had a full day in Pittsburgh and coach

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<v Speaker 4>Cole said, hey, we're here in town, why don't we

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<v Speaker 4>just go visit University of Pittsburgh. You know Dan Marinos,

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<v Speaker 4>Tony dur said, Curtis Martin. He started naming off all

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<v Speaker 4>the great players, and I said, yeah, let's let's just

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<v Speaker 4>go by. Literally, we go over, we meet Wildhare, Shady,

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<v Speaker 4>Brooke Hard, you know, all the coaching staff there. They

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<v Speaker 4>had no idea who I was. We end up leaving

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<v Speaker 4>the next day. We're driving the Penn State. They called

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<v Speaker 4>my coach's cell phone. They offered me a scholarship, and

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<v Speaker 4>it just kind of started from there.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't have that rainstorm, you might not

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<v Speaker 2>have ended up at.

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<v Speaker 4>Pitt There's no chance I would have been there because

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't really they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't recruit Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not some place they actually go, and so there's

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<v Speaker 4>zero percent chance I would have gone there.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you know you were good?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say when I was when I was young,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was always better than everybody I played against,

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<v Speaker 4>even at seven years old.

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<v Speaker 5>But everybody used to always say, you're.

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<v Speaker 4>From Minnesota, you know you play you know you played

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<v Speaker 4>three eight three a high school football.

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<v Speaker 5>Your competition's horrible. And so I had that seated doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>In my mind a little bit that the competition was

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<v Speaker 4>just that bad. And then I got to college, and

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<v Speaker 4>about week two I realized that I had what it

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<v Speaker 4>to not only just be there, but actually be a

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<v Speaker 4>good player. And if I continue to stay on n trajectory,

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<v Speaker 4>I might have a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, your dad was a longtime sports writer.

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<v Speaker 2>You're up there in Minnesota covering the Vikings, you get

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<v Speaker 2>to be a ball boy. You've talked about that experience

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<v Speaker 2>many times. But the fact that Randy moss Is knocks

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<v Speaker 2>on your door to tell you you're going into the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame take us back to the first time you

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<v Speaker 2>met Randy moss.

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<v Speaker 5>So my first memory of Randy is pretty vivid. I

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<v Speaker 5>was a ball boy, and being a couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Of ball boys, we're actually in the gym at Mankato State,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was they could walk through the gym to

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<v Speaker 4>head to the practice field and we were in there

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<v Speaker 4>playing basketball, shooting horse and Randy had to walk through

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<v Speaker 4>out there, so they were getting ready to walk through,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was his birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he held out of camp for.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a day or two or so, I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was his first day, so it was a

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<v Speaker 4>huge anticipation and obviously, you know, we'd all followed his

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<v Speaker 4>journey at Marshall and he wanted to see him. And

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<v Speaker 4>I remember him like throws the ball and he hit

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<v Speaker 4>like two three pointers from like about two feet behind

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<v Speaker 4>the three point line, and then before he before he

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<v Speaker 4>comes and he dunks it outside you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the circle there, and he dunks it and

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<v Speaker 4>he walks out, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this

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<v Speaker 4>is so unbelievable. I'm fourteen years old at the time

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<v Speaker 4>and just so enamored and like that was my first

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<v Speaker 4>experience in moss What.

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<v Speaker 2>Was your welcome to the NFL moment?

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<v Speaker 5>Happened Week two my rookie year. We played the New

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<v Speaker 5>England Patriots and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget I was I was going to running

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<v Speaker 4>across the route and William McGinnis like rearranged my whole

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<v Speaker 4>face masses back when they used to really like collision

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<v Speaker 4>you and he was. He was dropping out in the

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<v Speaker 4>coverage and I wasn't paying attention and he decapitated me.

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<v Speaker 4>I got up, and then my coach was like, you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta be more physically, you gotta be more physical.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's quarters. I come up and I hit Rodney here.

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<v Speaker 4>Because as hard as I can drop them on the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>and to look in his eyes, he's chasing me back

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<v Speaker 4>to the huddle. And I get back to the sylum like, coach,

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<v Speaker 4>why did you have me do to this man? It

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely crazy? And he proceeded to chase me around

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the game. I could not wait till

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<v Speaker 4>that game was over, and I realized, like, why the

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<v Speaker 4>Patriots defense. You know they had Teddy Bruski and Mike

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<v Speaker 4>Brabel and Ted Johnson, and I mean, like these dudes

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<v Speaker 4>were Vince will Fork. I mean these dudes were massive, physical, mean, aggressive,

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<v Speaker 4>angry men. And I learned that at twenty years old

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<v Speaker 4>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I could imagine Rodney Harrison was gonna get you back,

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<v Speaker 2>because Rodney Rodney got everybody. I remember, he told me

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<v Speaker 2>that he got fined or got suspended. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>shot on Jerry Rice across the middle. He said, I

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<v Speaker 2>took him out. That's what you're supposed to do. Game's

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<v Speaker 2>changed a little bit since that.

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<v Speaker 4>Larry, it has it has. I think it's much better.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys could play a lot longer, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think we need we needed to make the game a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit safer. It's it's it's not as nearly as

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<v Speaker 4>violent going across that middle. You know, the Steve at

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<v Speaker 4>Waters and the Joey Browners and the Jack Tatums of

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<v Speaker 4>the world, you know, will be very disappointed in a

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<v Speaker 4>way we play game.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're talking, Larry Fitzgerald, got the big speech coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times you practiced it?

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<v Speaker 5>I practiced it a ton of times, actually working.

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<v Speaker 4>Very closely with colleague of yours, Jerry Madaline, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>helping me kind of get trying to get prepared for it, so,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, five or six times a day, so to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure I have it have it down pad on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, our tears in the script.

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<v Speaker 5>Tears were never in the script. You know, you know that,

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<v Speaker 5>but you never know how you're going to respond.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you see family and friends and people who

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<v Speaker 4>have really played a massive role in your life, shitting

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<v Speaker 4>in the front, and you know, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how I'm going to respond to to them, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if they're emotional, or one of my kids is emotional.

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<v Speaker 5>You know things you can't really practice that.

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<v Speaker 2>And your son is going to induct you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, my oldest son, Devin, He's going to come

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<v Speaker 4>out and do it. I'm really really happy. I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to originally have my father do it before he

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<v Speaker 4>passed away a couple of months ago. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to have my son do it, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's a tremendous honor and I'm so privileged to have that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be tough when you see your son out

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<v Speaker 2>there and he starts talking about dad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my daughter's wedding coming up in two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to give a speech, and I'm already

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<v Speaker 2>a mess. I practice it every single day, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mess when nobody is there listening to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't imagine what that's going to be like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna you're going to see your life in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you with all teammates, former teammates and people from

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<v Speaker 2>college and high school and you'll probably be a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely will be.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, let me ask you this, Are you going to

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<v Speaker 4>be crying because of the speech and emotions or are

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<v Speaker 4>you gonna be thinking about how much it.

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<v Speaker 5>Costs you for your daughter's wedding? Will be?

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<v Speaker 2>I already tried. I already cried about that. Yeh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As I told people, it takes a village to put

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<v Speaker 2>on a wedding. It takes a bank account as well

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<v Speaker 2>to put on on a wedding. But yeah, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a mess and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent myself from crying. Has anybody told you if

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<v Speaker 2>you do this you might not cry, or this is

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing to do to not be too emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it will draw emotions, and people have

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<v Speaker 4>told me it's going to be one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>emotional things you've ever done. You know you have, You've

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<v Speaker 4>been planned for thirty years and you know this is

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<v Speaker 4>the culmination of that, the greatest honor you could ever have,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it should be emotional. It shouldn't mean something

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<v Speaker 4>to you. But I think the more you practice and

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<v Speaker 4>the more you're prepared, you know when you do have

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<v Speaker 4>those emotions, you can be able to work through it

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<v Speaker 4>and get back to the messages you're trying to deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>And acknowledging your father as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, Yeah, Pops played a big role.

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<v Speaker 4>None of it would even be possible it wasn't for

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<v Speaker 4>his sacrifices. You know, he put me in these positions

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<v Speaker 4>around people that I could learn from and have some

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful mentors.

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<v Speaker 5>And so, you know, his presence and his.

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<v Speaker 4>Breath of knowledge and fingerprints are all over my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to the Randy Moss loaning you his car

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<v Speaker 2>when he went to prom What what kind of car

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<v Speaker 2>was it that Randy Moss lent you?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a It was a blue seven forty five

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<v Speaker 4>l I I.

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<v Speaker 5>Still remember like it was yesterday. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 5>immaculine shape.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know once a more detail I left out

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<v Speaker 4>when I asked him about it was. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't I didn't know. I didn't tell him that I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have my driver's license yet, and so.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and I don't know how. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how your dad was.

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<v Speaker 4>But my dad when he was home, because he was

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<v Speaker 4>always traveling covering the twins in the summertime, he was

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<v Speaker 4>in Kansas City or Detroit or Cleveland or Chicago company

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox. So when he got home, he really didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to he was trying to be home, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he would have throw me the keys to the Potiac

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<v Speaker 4>and I would just get the drive up to the

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<v Speaker 4>park and go practice and work out. And so he

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<v Speaker 4>would always tell me to take the backstreet, so I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like I could drive.

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<v Speaker 5>I never went on the freeway or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Took the side street, so I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty I was pretty solid with the car. But I

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<v Speaker 4>never really had anybody else in the car with me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so it was a it was a memory.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it back to them, no issues. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't tell my dates, mom and Daddy.

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<v Speaker 5>That I didn't have a license.

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<v Speaker 3>Ed.

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<v Speaker 5>We kept all those things to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool. Can you can you thank your hands

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<v Speaker 2>during your Hall of Fame speech for me? Just a

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<v Speaker 2>little comic relief up there?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Freddie Mitchell who thanked his hands? Remember the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles wide receiver? I think you thanked his hands.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was that was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you're not You're not somebody who is.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not really much. That's not really much, jam and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I feel like I did. I did have

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<v Speaker 4>good hands, but I worked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It was thousands and thousands of hours of.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, catching catching balls consistently to try to get

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<v Speaker 4>them to where they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but see you didn't fall in line with the

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<v Speaker 2>diva wide receivers that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just as big. I was just as big

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<v Speaker 5>of a diva as everyone else. But I never I

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<v Speaker 5>never did it in public.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'd always keep it to myself or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if I had a question about targets, things that make

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<v Speaker 4>sure I would do it in a way where you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't showing up anybody or didn't put me in

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<v Speaker 4>a position where I would, you know, seem to be

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<v Speaker 4>more more worried about my own personal you know, ask

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<v Speaker 4>and accomplishments than it was for my team. And so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I wanted it just as bad as anybody

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<v Speaker 4>else did, but I knew there was a way to

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<v Speaker 4>do it in a way not to do it, in

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<v Speaker 4>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrats, been fun watching and uh you know this is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your moment. You've earned it, first Balance Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Famer. Good luck, this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you great seeing you out of Tahoe,

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<v Speaker 4>and graduations to you and your family on your daughter's wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>And I hope you have an amazing time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Larry.

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<v Speaker 5>All Right, they have a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the two time Amazon best selling author speak speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the bookmaker at the center of the show

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<v Speaker 2>Hey U Tani Epei Mizuhara sports betting scandal. Matt Boyer

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<v Speaker 2>was sentenced to one year in a day, pleading guilty

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<v Speaker 2>for money laundering, falsified tax returns, illegal bookmaking. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him after yesterday's show, and I started out by

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<v Speaker 2>asking him, when is the first time you took a

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<v Speaker 2>bet from Shoheu Toni's interpreter.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe it's twenty twenty one, that the end of

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<v Speaker 7>the the end of the season of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>How were you introduced?

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<v Speaker 7>I actually met him at a poker game after I

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<v Speaker 7>was introduced to him by going to a private poker

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<v Speaker 7>game with some of the Angels players and coaches and

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<v Speaker 7>friends at a local hilton in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you realize that he worked for show?

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<v Speaker 3>Hay?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I knew right away, of course, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>who it didn't right He was such a popular character,

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<v Speaker 7>probably the most popular interpreter in the world thanks to show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, of course, at what's your role as a bookie

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping somebody betting? But also is there a sympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>side to being a bookie when you realize somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of trouble?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's a fine line.

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<v Speaker 7>As a legal book maker, you're giving out reddit and

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<v Speaker 7>it's a tough way of trying to make a living

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<v Speaker 7>but also not being greedy and egotistical and then trying

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<v Speaker 7>to maintain giving someone in a relationship to where you're

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<v Speaker 7>not hurting their family or their.

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<v Speaker 8>Situation with their bills or it's a very fine line.

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<v Speaker 7>The more you get to know the person and more

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<v Speaker 7>you understand them and what they do for a living,

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<v Speaker 7>then the more you can help them. If they are

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<v Speaker 7>having a gambling problem, which you know, I personally had

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<v Speaker 7>one as well, so I understand that dynamic better than anyone.

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<v Speaker 7>But you're right, it's a hard line to figure out.

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<v Speaker 7>And sometimes oftentimes they're lying to you because they're gambling

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<v Speaker 7>with you and they want to give you them an

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<v Speaker 7>impression that it's not affecting them, you know, at home

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<v Speaker 7>or financially, because they want to continue to bet with

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<v Speaker 7>you or get credit or ask you for more credit.

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<v Speaker 7>So those are the situations that come up. They're hard

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<v Speaker 7>to I'm going to say, run and figure out, because

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<v Speaker 7>when you are dealing with these people, you know, at

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<v Speaker 7>least in my case, you have a heart. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>the last thing you want to see is if someone

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<v Speaker 7>just losing more money than they can afford.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at what point are you allowed or do

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<v Speaker 2>you ask that's a lot of money you're betting, does

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<v Speaker 2>show hey know you're betting this.

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<v Speaker 8>Trith Be told. When EPA came to me, it was

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<v Speaker 8>a tiny account.

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<v Speaker 7>It was one thousand and eight thousand dollars credit line,

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<v Speaker 7>so I, you know, initially I thought it was no

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<v Speaker 7>big deal, and then that escalated very rapidly to the

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<v Speaker 7>point of about thirty days later we were at a

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<v Speaker 7>half a million to a million dollar credit line.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I knew at that point it had.

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<v Speaker 7>To be either show Hey or him together, or maybe he,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, had some funds.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't know about him.

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<v Speaker 7>You really don't know everyone's personal private lifestyle. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 7>was a large investor in something. But then when I

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<v Speaker 7>started getting into the point of millions and millions, then

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<v Speaker 7>I knew that either.

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<v Speaker 8>Show Hey was involved or they were partners.

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<v Speaker 7>I wasn't really sure, and I didn't ask a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of questions because animinity in my business when I was

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<v Speaker 7>running a book making operation was key. I had a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of clients in celebrities and athletes CEOs that were

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<v Speaker 7>very private, and that's why they liked working with me

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<v Speaker 7>because of that privacy.

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<v Speaker 8>But at the same time, I was being paid, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>five hundred thousand dollars every two weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>So the greedy sided me of running a business and

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<v Speaker 7>making a lot of money. Was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>everything's running smoothly. He's not even making any signs of

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<v Speaker 7>you know, panicking or even really he was laughing and

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<v Speaker 7>making fun of himself quite often. If you look at

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<v Speaker 7>the text messages that the government, you know throughout which

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<v Speaker 7>is there was quite a few of them, you could

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<v Speaker 7>see us joking back and forth about both of us

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<v Speaker 7>being degenerates and losing money through book makers, slash casinos,

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<v Speaker 7>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't know that sho heey O Tani knew,

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<v Speaker 2>not for a fact, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I didn't have a relationship with show Hey

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<v Speaker 7>at that time. He spoke very little English. And I've

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<v Speaker 7>been around the team and some players. I used to

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<v Speaker 7>play golf with some of the players and gamble with them,

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<v Speaker 7>and quite a few of the Angels players were betting

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<v Speaker 7>through my organization, but my relationship was with Dpey. I

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<v Speaker 7>never spoke about anything outside of that to even the players,

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<v Speaker 7>even like, for example, some of the players were betting

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<v Speaker 7>with me, I wouldn't discuss their business with the other players.

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<v Speaker 8>That being said, I don't think a lot of these

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<v Speaker 8>guys knew.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying I'm talking about the Angels players knew the

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<v Speaker 7>extent of what was going on because the EPA was

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<v Speaker 7>very private, didn't have a lot to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>very wanted things to be low key.

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<v Speaker 8>I realized now why at.

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<v Speaker 7>The time I thought, personally, I thought show Hay was

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<v Speaker 7>betting with him because of the amount of bets that

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<v Speaker 7>they were making and.

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<v Speaker 8>Clearly the amount of money that was being wired.

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<v Speaker 7>I just figured he had to have known, especially with

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<v Speaker 7>that long period of time and you're seeing five hundred

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<v Speaker 7>thousand more wires come out about to count every two

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<v Speaker 7>weeks for.

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<v Speaker 8>Basically a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 7>I just, even to this day, I still don't understand

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<v Speaker 7>how showhy didn't wasn't aware.

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<v Speaker 8>I do believe wholeheartedly that he never gambled.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think he was placing any of the bets

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<v Speaker 7>or involved in that part at all.

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<v Speaker 2>He s Matt Boyer, two time Amazon best selling author

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<v Speaker 2>and at the center of the show, Heyutani, if a

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<v Speaker 2>music Haara sports betting scandal, how many athletes give us

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<v Speaker 2>a sense are betting this way that you dealt with

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<v Speaker 2>that we're betting through a booking.

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<v Speaker 7>I estimate at least fifty sixty percent it's probably even

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<v Speaker 7>higher because the reality is everyone's using third party people

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<v Speaker 7>and beards and people to vet through.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, let's be real competitive.

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<v Speaker 7>Athletes are very competitive in everything they do, and sports is.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're a sports fan, as you and I both are,

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<v Speaker 7>we watch all sports.

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<v Speaker 8>And whether you gamble or not, you generally like to

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<v Speaker 8>have some sort.

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<v Speaker 7>Of play in the game, whether it's fantasy betting. A friend,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you go, I don't know about you. Do

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<v Speaker 7>you even golf?

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<v Speaker 5>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>I golf. I'm a guy who gambled a long, long,

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago and quit cold turkey?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Do you so you don't gamble on the golf course?

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<v Speaker 8>Five bucks? Seven bucks?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's rare, right.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you go to a golf course, you'll

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<v Speaker 7>see that most people that golf, whether they gamble a

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<v Speaker 7>lot or little, it's usually a dollar or five dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>twenty dollars whatever. Most people gamble almost everything they do

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<v Speaker 7>when it comes to that, I think athletes are even

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<v Speaker 7>higher because the fact they're so competitive and they like

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<v Speaker 7>to win it all cost.

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<v Speaker 2>But these there's current athletes. Met These are current athletes

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<v Speaker 2>who are still betting.

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<v Speaker 8>Definitely, yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>How many bookies are there left in America?

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<v Speaker 8>Millions?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they're everywhere, literally throughout the country. There's at

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<v Speaker 7>least a million book makers. Now some of them might

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<v Speaker 7>only have ten or twenty clients, you know, very small.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of small operations. There are just local

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<v Speaker 7>bookmakers at golf courses or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just didn't know if it was a shrinking

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<v Speaker 2>because you have all these other gambling sites where you

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<v Speaker 2>can go and do it above board. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys love that, you know, they're not paying taxes

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you can do it in a clandestine way.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's next for you?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm excited about this journey. I'm rebuilding, as

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<v Speaker 7>you know you just said. I have two books that

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<v Speaker 7>I produced, one of them I just did right when

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<v Speaker 7>I got out of prison. And public speaking and giving

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<v Speaker 7>back to people that you know, maybe hopefully NFL teams,

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<v Speaker 7>NBA teams, college athletes. I'd like to go to these

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<v Speaker 7>schools and universities and give a public speaking event to

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<v Speaker 7>where I can help these kids avoid going down the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong path. I have the best experience because I've been

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<v Speaker 7>on both sides, not always a gambler, but as a

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<v Speaker 7>bookmaker and dealing with athletes, and I understand that it's

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<v Speaker 7>easy to fall into that trap of you know, not

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<v Speaker 7>only betting.

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<v Speaker 8>Yourself, but maybe trying to sway.

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<v Speaker 7>A game, you know, fixing a game to make a

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<v Speaker 7>few extra dollars, especially these college athletes. And now you're

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<v Speaker 7>singing in with all these pros that are you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Terry Rosier and Chauncey Billups and guys that you would

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<v Speaker 7>never anticipate getting into trouble because they're wealthy and you know.

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<v Speaker 8>They're NBA athletes. But it's sad that it's happening.

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<v Speaker 7>If I could persuade a kid from doing that at

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<v Speaker 7>or a professional athlete than by giving a public speaking event,

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<v Speaker 7>then I feel like I'm doing something great. So I

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<v Speaker 7>plan on doing that and just building my personal brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you take any action? Were there any suspicious bets

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<v Speaker 2>where you thought somebody might be fixing a game?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, just in the UFC there was a particular

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<v Speaker 7>fight that I saw a lot of people coming in

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<v Speaker 7>vetting on and there was a fight that was rigged

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<v Speaker 7>and they got caught and they obviously.

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<v Speaker 8>Got barred from the UFC tennis matches.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw quite a bit lower level, you know, like

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<v Speaker 7>the two three hundred top three hundred players in the nation,

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<v Speaker 7>not these high level ones that I'm aware of, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>top twenty, top one hundred. So those are the usually

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<v Speaker 7>the guys who are really not making a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 7>that are, you know, trying to find other edges to

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<v Speaker 7>make an earning on the side, sadly the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>If I ask you to fix a sporting event, which

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<v Speaker 2>one are you fixing?

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<v Speaker 7>Tennis is the easiest by far, not even close, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>because you can make it so unobvious by you know,

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<v Speaker 7>just playing a particular set or a game for example,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, tennis works.

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<v Speaker 8>You've got to win, and men's usually three out of five.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you could just throw set one, come back

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<v Speaker 7>and win the next you know three. And if you

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<v Speaker 7>throw set one and you're a favorite, especially then the

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<v Speaker 7>underdog is the value is very big on.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like that's happened many times.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you think about it in tennis, drat

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<v Speaker 7>to tennis wise, you still win. So the guy who

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<v Speaker 7>threw set one could still win the match and still

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 7>get paid and still keep his status, and nobody really

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 7>gets harmed in that sense in his mind. Of course,

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 7>there's somebody getting harmed who's gambling on the sport and

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<v Speaker 7>has basically betting a bet that they're going to lose,

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<v Speaker 7>and they don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Even know it.

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<v Speaker 7>And the integrity of the sport more importantly is the problem.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's that's what I hate to see more than anything.

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<v Speaker 7>I knew in twenty eighteen when gambling became legal this

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<v Speaker 7>was going to happen. And I've been saying it even

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<v Speaker 7>before I with the prison, that is only going to

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<v Speaker 7>get worse. And really, you're going to see. The sad

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<v Speaker 7>part is these young kids. You know, I have five children,

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 7>and three of them are young adults who have their

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<v Speaker 7>you know, boyfriends or kids come over and I hear

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<v Speaker 7>it all day long.

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<v Speaker 8>They're all gambling and they're young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and well, I agree, Yeah, that's a sweet spot

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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen to twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Men.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying, I've been down that road, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>God I wise enough to quit gambling because I see

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<v Speaker 2>where we're headed with this. Are you worried about your

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<v Speaker 2>safety at all through all of this?

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<v Speaker 7>No, definitely not. I mean, don't get me wrong. Anything

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<v Speaker 7>can happen, especially this crazy world we're living.

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<v Speaker 5>In it.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know I've been I made my peace with everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>I've done everything I can to make it right. And

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<v Speaker 7>you know I'm not an angel. I've done some things

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<v Speaker 7>in my life I'm not so proud of, but I've

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 7>done more than I am proud of. So I don't

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<v Speaker 7>really have any any means per se that are looking

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<v Speaker 7>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, thanks for joining us, Matt, Good luck with

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<v Speaker 2>the journey.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks for having me, Dan, I really appreciate it. Spend

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<v Speaker 8>an honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Warwyer. We did the interview yesterday after the show. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to glamorize anything with this person. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's got an agenda. I know that he's got

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<v Speaker 2>to make money. You know, the government ten million dollars

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>from what I'm told, probably wants to look at doing

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>a movie deal on this. So there's a lot involved,

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, the tennis aspect of fixing a tennis match,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've had examples of this, it's happened recently. The

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>number of players athletes who do bet through bookies. Now,

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>there was no DraftKings or fan duel. When I was

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>growing up, I bet through a bookie. If I was

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>growing up now, i'd be all over that app. I

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be going through a bookie. But a lot of

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.719
<v Speaker 2>people don't want people to know what they're doing. They

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 2>don't want you to be able to follow their activity

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that they want to be able to do something clean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's with somebody. You don't know how much I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>or how much I lost, so there's less of a

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<v Speaker 2>paper trail. I understand that it's going to continue. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I wanted to know how many bookies. I was

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>told there's probably ten real bookies left in America. Like

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<v Speaker 2>prominent bookies. Now you have guys who will take some action.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as true bookies, a source told me

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<v Speaker 2>probably ten major players in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you playing golf right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I am Dan, I'm at Firestone. You jealous?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, I love Firestone that's tight. Tight. Fairways there, Marshall,

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<v Speaker 2>do well, very h what's your handicap?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Good?

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Your handicap's good?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the number.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's no numbers. I use letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Good okay. But if you're playing, am I giving you shots.

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<v Speaker 6>Or I'm giving you I'm giving you shots right now,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm playing to about a four or five okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Most famous person you played golf with, oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>Iiger?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, how'd that go?

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<v Speaker 3>Went well? Went well? Went well? Went well for him? Damn.

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<v Speaker 6>It just sounds so different, man, Like when they hit

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<v Speaker 6>the ball, It's like, I'm like, oh my god, it

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 6>sounds so different.

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<v Speaker 2>It is if you go to a driving range or

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, the range when you go to the Masters

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 2>or any you know, and just listen certain guys. I

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>always say, show heyu Tani the ball leaves his bat

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>differently than anybody else. And you go by some of

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>these guys and when they they hit the ball, you

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>can see it's the size of a penny on their

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>club of where they hit it over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it sounds like when you hit it correctly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, it's it's it's crazy. It's crazy that is this.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, just to listen to him hit the ball

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 6>and there's this little spot on his on his on

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>his club face that's a little rusty, and he hits

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<v Speaker 6>it every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts on the resurgence of the running back?

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it man.

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<v Speaker 6>You know if you watch here's the thing, the surprise

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 6>in Seattle letting Kennt Walker go. That was prize. But

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 6>we all know this. Everybody likes to throw the ball.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 6>You depend on the quarterback, can't touch him. But once

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 6>we get into playoff football, what is it about? What

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 6>did they say, Oh, you got to run the ball.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 6>That's like, that's literally what everybody says.

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<v Speaker 2>But who was the first hybrid running back where you

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<v Speaker 2>were you were running and catching?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I know, I know for me it was watching

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 6>Roger Craig was like it that was that was he

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<v Speaker 6>was my guy. Ok, you know that was like, that

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<v Speaker 6>was like the guy that I watched that I saw

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<v Speaker 6>do it. I remember playing when I was a Saints

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<v Speaker 6>fan as a kid, watching the forty nine ers come

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<v Speaker 6>in and beat the crop out of us. But he

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<v Speaker 6>was the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought Ricky Waters was the first that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was rushing I think he ran for ten ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand yards. And he also said, oh, are you getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready to hit right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead, all right, I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. The yardage here looks like, uh

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<v Speaker 2>you on a part three? Yep, okay three?

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<v Speaker 3>I hit there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you did I hit the gree Are you playing

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<v Speaker 2>with any other?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, Eric Differson's here as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell him my settle low.

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<v Speaker 3>I will, I will, But I mean Ricky Waters did it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm talking about think about this, okay, And and

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<v Speaker 6>and I felt like I didn't do him an injustice.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 6>I didn't bring enough attention to the whole thousand thousand club.

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<v Speaker 6>We pretend like this happening all the time. There's only

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<v Speaker 6>three guys in the history of the league has ever

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 6>done it, you know, and people just don't pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Attention to it.

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<v Speaker 6>But he was a fullback, and he played half back,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 6>and he caught the football and rushed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was just unbelievable what he did.

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<v Speaker 6>But because you had Jerry Rice and Dwight Clark, people

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<v Speaker 6>just didn't pay attention to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Teeki barbera Hall.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Famer hundred percent hundred percent. And here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 6>this is why he gets in. If you look at

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<v Speaker 6>if we let Devin hester in, if you look at

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 6>him as a returner and a running back, he gets in.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 3>We let Devin hester In.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd love the resurgence here the running back.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you're still seeing receivers get ten million

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>dollars more than what these you know, these running backs

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>are getting. And it feels like I can get receivers

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>getting some of the Bijon and Jamiir Gibbs, h Taylor

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>got extended. CMC is still really good. Like there's only

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a handful of those guys. It feels like in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>Man nobody, nobody will talk about why that's the case.

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 6>You really didn't care about why receivers much in a sense,

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, unless you were a Randy Moss or a

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Jerry Rice Michael Werb and that kind of type of guy.

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<v Speaker 6>But what what what literally happened was the game changed

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<v Speaker 6>and when you protect the quarterback by you can't hit him,

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 6>and then and then you can't hit the receivers, you know,

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 6>defenseless receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>They haven't made a rule for the running back. What

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 3>did they said?

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<v Speaker 6>I like this from Texas stof what did they say,

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 6>you can't if you have the backup high, you can't hit.

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Him in the knees too.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 6>Then we would come back too, But they made all

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 6>these rules that make that make it advantageous for throwing

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 6>the football, and so that's what you do, you throw

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 6>the football.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Eric Dickerson on a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that he has to sleep sitting up,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the different injuries that we don't see what

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>happens to you guys, ten fifteen, twenty years after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I bring up Earl Campbell when I saw him in

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<v Speaker 2>a wheelchair. It broke my heart because we care what

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<v Speaker 2>you give us on a Sunday. And then after that

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<v Speaker 2>we move on to the next guy. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any lingering injuries issues?

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm I'm literally going through all the

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<v Speaker 6>tests now trying to make sure you know this whole

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<v Speaker 6>new thing of of you know, making sure your head

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<v Speaker 6>is good with all the ct stuff that the league

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<v Speaker 6>is doing, all the Parkinson stuff that's linked to CTE.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going through all of that right now, Dan, just

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<v Speaker 6>to just to make sure that I'm you know that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm that I'm okay, that that I might have a

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<v Speaker 6>quality of life, you know, through my fifties and sixties

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<v Speaker 6>and hopefully seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but you didn't take too many big hits,

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<v Speaker 2>did you.

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<v Speaker 6>It don't take a big hit, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 6>about getting it just takes a hit. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 6>to be a big hit.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the one that uh, welcome to the NFL hit

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<v Speaker 2>you got?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man talking crap to the lake to the late

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<v Speaker 6>junior say out Because we were both in San Diego

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<v Speaker 6>and I finally get a chance to play him and

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<v Speaker 6>uh and and I put a move on him, and

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<v Speaker 6>I cut back and I looked back at him, and

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<v Speaker 6>Kurt Govea leveled me, and I was I was down.

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<v Speaker 6>I was looking at the sideline and I was looking

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<v Speaker 6>at the huddle, and I'm saying to myself, the huddle

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<v Speaker 6>is closer.

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<v Speaker 2>So you limped back to the huddle.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, I made my way back to the huddle,

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<v Speaker 6>got my faculties together, and you know, stop talking trash.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you nerd out over when you see them

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<v Speaker 2>at the Hall of Fame or.

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<v Speaker 3>Time Tony Dorset? Every time?

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<v Speaker 6>Man, that thirty three, that thirty three you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>cowboys with the star and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man A big, big fan of Dorsets. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>How's he doing? Okay, okay, yeah, well, thanks for interrupting

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<v Speaker 2>your golf game there.

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<v Speaker 3>And tell any time for you, all right

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<v Speaker 2>Tell tell Eric I said it low and thanks again

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<v Speaker 2>more all right man, take care, Marshall Faulk