1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, the national conversation 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: these days seems to revolve around the border, the economy, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and sending aid to our friends overseas. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: All of these conversations are. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Filled with debate and controversy, and as the debates continue, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: public trust in Congress continues to erode. And then we 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: have the looming question of corruption in the Biden family. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: My guest today has been very adamant the FBI has 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: let us down when it comes to investigating Joe Biden 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: and his family's business dealings. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson, welcome to the podcast. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: Well, Tutor, glad to be on. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: We are glad you're on because a lot of us 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of our listeners have been incredibly concerned 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: with what's going on with Joe Biden's family business dealings. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: And it seems like. 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: You're kind of calling out the FBI for having some 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: information that they have labeled misinformation rather than put out 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: there as what could possibly be happened have been happening 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: behind the scenes with the Biden family. Do you believe 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: that he was getting money from corrupt business dealings? 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: Sure, Well, let's first kind of frame this from a 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 4: macro standpoint, as concerning as the Biden crime family corruption 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: is as much as that compromises our president and puts 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: our national security at risk. As even more concerning is 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: the corruption that has been revealed in federal law enforcement, 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: the FBI, Department Justice intelligence agencies, and then of course 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: the corrupt media that overlooks all this, that doesn't hold 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: both sides equally accountable. When it comes to the FBI, 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 4: what we have found because of whistleblowers, both the IRS 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: whistleblowers as well as FBI whistleblowers coming to both center 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: grassolies in my office. But I think the most recent 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: revelation showed that the FBI literally had forty confidential human 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: sources with drogatory information on the Biden family. The FBI 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: then set up this foreign Influence task Force, which was 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: appears to be primarily what my staff calls catch and kill. 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: So wherever some derogatory information would pop up on the Bidens, 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: this task force would swoop in and basically label that 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: information Russian disinformation, foreign influence. Designed I mean from a 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 4: partisan standpoint, designed to protect the Bidens. I mean, this 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: is shocking. We are seeing more and more piece, you know, 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: piece of this puzzle being revealed by Chairman Comer and 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 4: Chairman Jordan as well. You asked me a question, do 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: I think Joe Biden benefit from this? I don't have 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: the direct evidence other than now we've seen a loan 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: payment apparently from James Biden to Joe Biden. We've seen 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: some other things connected to me, it's all pretty obvious. 48 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: I mean, millions of dollars that Center Grass and I 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: revealed flowing into this labyrinth of companies that Hunter Biden 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 4: set up to launder money. James Comer has shown there's 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: a lot more people than just Joe and Hunter and 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: James and Sarah Biden did a benefit, and they're more 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: family members. So to me, this has been obvious from 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: our initial investigation. I don't know that the mainstream media 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: will ever see enough evidence to make it obvious to them, 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: but I think it's obvious to anybody who's really paying attention. 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: Well, in these payments we're talking about coming from countries 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: like Russia, Ukraine, China, these are adversarial countries and certainly 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: now well not Ukraine, but certainly now we're seeing the 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: world erupt. We see what's going on with the Russia. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Where Ukraine conflict. We see that Russia has been talking 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: to China, to North Korea, to Iran, what's happening overseas 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. When you look at that, combined 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: with the potential payments, does that concern you that his 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: judgment is clouded when it comes to making tough decisions 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: and the decisions that we're facing on the world stage 67 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: in the coming months. 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: And we had a very early example of this administration 70 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: where they canceled the China Initiative, which was a Department 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: of Justice initiative to investigate and try and crack down 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: on China stealing our intellectual profit on our college campuses. 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: Why would you cancel that when you realize that's probably 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: one of the greatest threats that China represents to America's 75 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: stealing our stuff and then using our intellectual property, our 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: technology against us. And the Biden program, So no, you 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: have to be concerned about this. And Tudor remember the 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: rationale for the Hair on Fire concerns about the totally 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: false narrative of Trump campaign collusion with Russia, that if 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: we would elect Donald Trump and he had contact with Russia, 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: this could put our national security at risk. That's why 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: we went through years of torment, a political turmoil on 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: a completely false narrative that the FBI knew, by the way, 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: and the Biden Mystery or the bottom administration knew, was 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: a scheme hatched by the Clinton campaign. I mean, he 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: can't make exactly all the information the FBI had in 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: his possession, and yet they ran with this investigation, helped 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: set up the Moeller Special Council, put this country through 89 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: a couple of years of term. 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: Let's face it, sick. It hasn't ended. 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: It has, but the media allows the Hillary Clinton to 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: continue to go out and say this. She continues to 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: peddle this lie, even though she knows she paid for it, 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: she knows she brought this lie to the United States, 95 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: and they allow her to continue to say, well, there 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: was Russian collusion, you know. I mean that to me 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: is mind boggling that no one says to her, well, 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we actually proved that that wasn't true. 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: In fact, you were involved in that line. 100 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: Well, her campaign communication department wouldn't tell her that. And 101 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: that's really what the mainstream media basically is is the 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: communication arm of the radical left wing of liberals. 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: A democratic Party, and that's a big problem. 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: We wouldn't have the corruption in our federal agencies if 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: we had a unbiased, free press that was holding both 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 4: sides equally accountable. I don't want a bias press biased 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: towards conservatives. I want an unbiased media holding both sides 108 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: equally accountable. We don't have that right now. We have 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: basically mouthpiece. This is for the radical left, for the 110 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: Democrat Party. 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something that you said, 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: because you talked about this program in universities where China 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: was supposed to be told that they can take our 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: intellectual property. Now apparently that's been canceled. You and I 115 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: both come from the manufacturing world. I was selling tool 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and die steel to plastics fabricators. 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: You are a plastic fabrication company. 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: So you and I both understand how important is that 119 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: we protect our intellectual property. 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: But beyond that, we spoke to Larry. 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: Cudlow recently and he was talking about the national security 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: dangers of this reduction in oil production and what that 123 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: means for our plastics industry. 124 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask you a little bit about that. 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: How do you fight this? 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you come from this industry, you understand that 127 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: when we are talking about petroleum, we're not talking about 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: just powering our vehicles. We're talking about what our toothbrushes 129 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: are made out of, our clothing, our cars, everything, whether 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: it's your cell phone to your shoes, it's made from 131 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: something that comes out of the oil industry. So how 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: much danger are we in right now because of not 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: only China being able to take our ip but also 134 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: the fact that we've reduced our own oil production and 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: now we put power into the Middle East that wasn't 136 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: there before. 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: Well, I've said, if you were asked to develop a 138 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: strategy to destroy this country, you could not come up 139 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: with a better game plan than what the Bide administration 140 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: and the radical ext zipplement, the open borders, the embarrassing 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: and danger strender in Afghanistan than and bold in our enemies, 142 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: the war and fossil fuel, which certainly has contributed to 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: forty your high inflation together with the massive depth suspending. 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: So let's focus on the war and fossil fuel. First 145 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: of all, I'm not a climate change denier. I'm just 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: not an alarmist. The climate has always changed. There was 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: just a declaration made by one thousand six hundred and 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: nine worldwide scientists and professionals, led by two Nobel laureates, 149 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: and they got their Nobel Prizes in physics. 150 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: Because these are. 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Smart scientific people. The declaration said we have no climate emergency, 152 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: that the climate change alarmism is all based on faulty 153 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: and false science, so let's knock it off. We've spent 154 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: something like six trillion dollars combating climate change. Even the 155 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: climate change alarmists won't say that we've even bent the 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: curve down. We're not going to be able to hold 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: back the tide. So the first thing is we need conservatives, 158 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: people that are head screwed on right, pushing back against 159 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: that false narrative. Now it's not easy to do, trust me, 160 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 4: I do it. I get vilified, I get ridiculed for 161 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: being a climate in science denier. But the science states 162 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: that we've always had climate change. And unless there are 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: enough people willing to call BS on this, we're going 164 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 4: to continue on this path. We've got far too many 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: Republican politicians that buy into this climate change BS. 166 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you something about that, though, because 167 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I would argue that our manufacturing companies are not reckless regardless, 168 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: and I would be to bet you would say, no, 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: we're very conscious of what we put in the ground 170 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and what and whether or that has to do with 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: climate change or just protecting people, protecting animals. We I 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: would say that the United States is the cleanest manufacturing 173 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: country in the entire world because we are concerned with 174 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: those things. 175 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: No one's reckless out there. 176 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: Without a doubt. 177 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Again, that's different between being an environmentalist and I'm a 178 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: definite environmentalist. I mean, I love the outdoors, I want 179 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: a pristine environment. I get my water out of a well, 180 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: I want clean groundwater. And there's no doubt about the 181 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: American manufacturing is the most environmentally sensitive and friendly manufacturing 182 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: in the world. So again I've always said, you know, 183 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: I'm not a big fan of the federal government, but 184 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: one agency that I think was very successful was the EPA. 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: Now it's gone beyond its initial mandate, but what was 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: originally set up to do, you know, the main pludence. 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: It was set up to combat, you know, the things 188 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: that we're causing fire or you know, rivers to go 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: on fire. They've done a great job ort reducing and 190 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: that's a good thing and we all support it. 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 3: The climate change that is so destructive. It's being used to. 192 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: Scare monger and fear monger for greater government control and 193 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: reducing our freedom. And again it's fantasy. 194 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Don't you think that. 195 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of where they've been able to manipulate 196 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: young minds though, and make people believe that Republicans are 197 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: not environmentalists, which I fight against. I say, no, no, no, no, 198 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: stop saying that, because I would say Republicans are the innovators. 199 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: We are the ones that own the businesses, that create 200 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the better ways of doing things, that take care of 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the earth, that take care of the people. And that 202 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: I think is the manipulation is convincing young people that 203 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: Republicans are against the environment instead of talking about this 204 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: boogeyman of climate. 205 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: The media, the left is always going to twist people's 206 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: words and lie and not tell the truth. I mean, 207 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: if they don't, if they don't have something that they 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: can twist and use against you, they'll make something up. 209 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: They have no problem lying, they have no problem pushing 210 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: false narratives, as we saw with Trump and the hilly 211 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: Clinton campaign. So again, in the end, all we have 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: to do is tell the truth. And from my standpoint, 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: I think it's pretty easy to push on the climate 214 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: change alarmist. I point to the Vostok ice core sample. 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: You know, four hundred and forty thousand years of scientific 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: temperature variation proven, and you see five cycles twenty two 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: point seven degrees variation. You take a look at the 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: sea level rise in the Bea San Francisco three hundred 219 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: and ninety feet since the last glaciation period twenty thousand 220 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: years ago. There's nothing we could have done to hold 221 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: back the tides or prevent those types of temperaure cycles. 222 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: We're not going to be able to prevent this one either. 223 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: So again it's it's alarmism. It's based on bad science. 224 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: There's more scientists and Nobel Laius coming out saying don't 225 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: do not be afraid. The climate has always changed, will adapt, 226 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: We can adapt. But you know, just trying to mollify 227 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: the left and try and get them not to criticize 228 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 4: you by just going along with climate change is a 229 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,479 Speaker 4: losing strategy. 230 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but I think it's a tough hill 231 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: to climb, and I appreciate you sharing with us that 232 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: information because I think a lot more people need to 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: be edge cad on how to talk about it. In 234 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: a different way. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll 235 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You and I 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: are both here in the Midwest. I you're in Wisconsin. 237 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: I'm in Michigan. It's becoming a much bluer area. It's 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: harder for Republicans to win. So tell us your secret 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: of talking about these things in Wisconsin and how you 240 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: continue to win elections and fight for the people. 241 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: I think people realize I honored my promise of always 242 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: telling the truth. Now they may not always agree with me, 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: but they do realize that whatever I say, I genuinely 244 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: believe it, and I believe it to be the truth, 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: and I won't back down. 246 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: And I think people do appreciate the fact that. 247 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: You know, I often said during my second election and 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: said I win either way, either win my election or 249 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: I get to go home. And I was criticized for 250 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: being too ambivalent. I wasn't ambivalent. I mean, you can 251 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: see that and hear the passion of my voice here. 252 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: I ran for a third term even though I didn't 253 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: want to, because I couldn't walk away. I couldn't turn 254 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: my back on this country. You know, this country is imperiled, 255 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: and so I think just being passionate, being honest, being truthful, 256 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: being genuine when it comes to electro mechanics, being concerned 257 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: far more about the grassroots and getting out and talking 258 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: to everybody and convincing you know, members of the county 259 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: parties to get out and talk to their friends, family 260 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: and neighbors. I mean, you win elections one person at 261 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 4: a time. You need ads, you need all that type 262 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: of thing. But you know, my folks and my campaigns 263 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: have always been on just working the state hard, talking 264 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: to people and asking them to be evangelist for the 265 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: truth and talk to their friends, families and neighbors so that. 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: Strong ground game. 267 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: And honestly, I believe that that strong ground game is 268 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: something we have been missing in Michigan, and the Democrats 269 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: have done extremely well. 270 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a really valid point. 271 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: People need to understand that it's important to get your 272 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: friends and neighbors out to talk about it to get 273 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: people to vote. It's important because we've got a lot 274 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: going on right now. You've talked quite a bit about 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the border. Obviously, we're talking a lot about what's going 276 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: on in Ukraine, what's going on in Israel right now, 277 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: we're looking at the new House speaker wanting to separate 278 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: that Israel funding into one individual bill that is not 279 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: widely accepted by Democrats, and even Mitch McConnell is not 280 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: a fan of that. Where do you stand on the 281 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Israel funding. 282 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I recognize that when Republicans control 283 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: the House and we're the minority in the Senate, the 284 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: Speaker of the House is really the leader of the 285 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: Republican Party, and I understand the challenge that Speaker Johnson faces, 286 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: and I think Republican Center's role ought to be to 287 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: support him and not undermine him. First of all, I 288 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: completely agree with him. There's broad byparts support to get 289 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: whatever Israel needs to Israel and support Israel. Putting together 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: Israel funding. Any larger package that has definitely controversy elements 291 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: to it is going to slow that process down. We 292 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: do that, So I think Speaker Johnson very intelligently said no, 293 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: let's provide, let's vote on and pass support for Israel. 294 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, why don't we pay for it. 295 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: Let's pay for it by taking fourteen billion dollars out 296 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: of the eighty billion dollars that Joe Biden and Democrats 297 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: passed to harass American citizens through eighty seven thousand new 298 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: IRS agents. Seems to make sense to me, pretty common 299 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: common sense approach. So I completely support the speaker, and 300 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: I think Leader McConnell is out of touch with the 301 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: Republicans that support us throughout the country, but also even 302 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: Republicans in the United States Senate. 303 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we're sitting here watching these horrors across the 304 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: country of what's even happening with anti Semitism, and certainly 305 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that has fueled a lot of people to say, we 306 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: have to protect Israel, but we have to protect people 307 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: on our own within our own borders as well. That 308 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: seems to be getting harder and harder as we have 309 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: an open border with people coming across and they have 310 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: multiple different backgrounds, but we know that a lot of 311 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: these people that have come across have backgrounds in terror. 312 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: So what do you say about I know you've talked 313 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: about having the Ukraine aid connected to border funding as well. 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: What would you like to see at the border right now? 315 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that whether you agree or disagree 316 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: providing support to Ukraine, it's very true that Democrats President 317 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: Biden are more concerned about Ukrainian's borders than they are 318 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: our own right now, the completely out of control open 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: borders is the greatest homeland security threat our nation faces. 320 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: Over seventy three thousand special interest aliens that we know 321 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: about crossed over during the Biden administration. Over six million 322 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: people been led in one point seven million known guidaways. 323 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: We don't know who these people are, but we know 324 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: they came into this country. We detected them, we just 325 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: didn't even encounter them. 326 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: So this is a. 327 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: Massive threat to our national security. So we got to 328 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: fix it. And so there will be a legitimate and 329 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 4: concerned to attach to any Ukraine funding true border security 330 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: with metrics. I think that's important because no matter what 331 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: law we pass, we know that the Bide administration is 332 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 4: a lawless administration. You can't count on them to actually 333 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: implement the law. They will circumvent the law. So we're 334 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: going to have to hold their feet to the fire. 335 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: So I'm working with the Senator John Hovan who really 336 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: developed this concept, and we're going to put in strong 337 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: metrics that if you'll do an initial trance to Ukraine, 338 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: but then future five billion dollar tranchs we might suggestion 339 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: would have to be tied to border metrics of actually 340 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: reducing the number of people let in down to let's 341 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: say the level that it was when Trump lust office. 342 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty reasonable approach. 343 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned something interesting at the beginning of that. You said, 344 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: no matter where you stand on funding Ukraine, I want 345 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: to ask you about that because we've had a lot 346 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: of people on the podcast who have said, folks need 347 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: to understand that America first doesn't mean America only, and 348 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: we have to still be the leader out there that 349 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: is still in or someone takes that role away from 350 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: the United States of America. What is your response to that. 351 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: Well, I think most Americans, you know, we truly do 352 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: support Ukrainians who are just fighting for their families, for 353 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: their freedom, for their territory. And we all recognize that 354 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin is a evil war criminal and we don't 355 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 4: want to provide any comfort or support for him, Okay, 356 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: but we also have to recognize the reality. I think 357 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: there was a point in time. For example, I don't 358 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 4: think Putin ever would have invaded Ukraine had Trump won 359 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: re election. I think there was a moment in time, 360 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: very early on when Putin didn't just immediately secure the 361 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: collapse of Ukraine and take it out over and he 362 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: was back on his heels that showing unity and providing 363 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: funding I was hoping would deter him from continuing. Just 364 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: you know, stop the war, have some kind of peace. 365 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: Now the rally situations, we are in a bloody stalemate. 366 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: Putin will not lose this war. 367 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: He can't. 368 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: It's losing the war would be an ex stential threat 369 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: to him. He has nuclear weapons, tactical nuclear weapons. He 370 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: has threatened to use him I believe he would. So 371 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: we're not going to defeat Russia. Ukraine can't do what 372 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: it would need to defeat Russia, start lobbing missiles into 373 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: Moscow to reduce the will of Russian people. So this 374 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 4: cannot be won by Ukraine. This is going to have 375 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: to be settled. Every day that goes by where it's 376 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 4: not settled, more Ukrainians die, soldiers and civilians, more Russian 377 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: conscripts die. And I take no joy that young men 378 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: yanked out of their villages in Russia are being sent 379 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: to the front lines to die for Putin. This has 380 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: to end, and I think Zelenski right now is getting 381 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: the signal that he probably ought to bring it to 382 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: an end as quickly as possible, because he can't count 383 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 4: on just an open checkbook for his war effort. 384 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, some of the folks you don't want to. 385 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: Comfort to Putin, but we've got to encourage this war ends. 386 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Some of the folks that are running for president have 387 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: said they don't believe money should go over there at all, 388 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: that they believe there should be support in other ways, 389 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: that weapons should be sent, that munitions should be sent. 390 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Is that something I mean, you're saying that those things 391 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: are not going to matter. Do you believe that Joe 392 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Biden should be trying to have a diplomatic relationship with 393 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: Putin that ends this or do you think that's impossible 394 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: with a Joe Biden. 395 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 4: I think Zelenski needs to really lead that effort. I 396 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 4: was at his inauguration. I met with him a few 397 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: months later. He wanted peace with Russia. This is when 398 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: Russia had taken over Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. But he 399 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 4: wanted you a piece deal. He did not want war. 400 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what happened in the intervening time period, 401 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 4: but we obviously know that Putin invaded again. This is 402 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: a tough call. Okay, there's no doubt about it. That's 403 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: why it is controversial. I would support a bill that 404 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: with metrics, did provide ongoing support for Ukraine for a 405 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: time period to set number. If we truly got a 406 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: change in our asylum laws, got strong border security, and 407 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: then metrics as the money was being meted out where 408 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: we were actually seeing the border secured. And remember Tutor 409 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: under the same broken asylum system. We just had the 410 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: Secretary mari Orcus in front of our committee esterday and 411 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: he just kept repeating this, it's because. 412 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: Our broken system. 413 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: No, our borders out of control is because you have 414 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: an open border policy. The root cause of our current 415 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: situation is Joe Biden and Secretary may Orcus. So President 416 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: Trump reduced the flow of illegal immigrants on the southwest 417 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: border to seventeen thousand, five hundred during his administration. Last month, 418 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: it was over two hundred and seventy thousand, six million 419 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: people into this country either encountered process and dispersed rapidly 420 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: or as known gudaways. This is completely out of control. 421 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: We can fix this even without changing our law. But 422 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: we've got an opportunity now with this the administration's desire 423 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: to provide funding to Ukraine to demand we secure our 424 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: own boarder. 425 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: At the same time, let's take a quick commercial break. 426 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: Will continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. 427 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I've never heard any of these folks that say that 428 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: the border is broken, or that the border program is broken, 429 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: say what they think should be done. I've never heard 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: of a solution to that. Have you been have had 431 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes said, boy, reform looks this way. 432 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: Well, we know it, I mean, we know it worked. 433 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 4: It was consequences. You can't just let people in. You 434 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: can't have an open invitation. So you need to increase 435 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: that credible sphere standard to more likely than not you 436 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: actually have a valve asylum claim and more likely than 437 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: not that you're telling us the truth. That'd actually be 438 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: a pretty high standard. And then you don't adjudicate the 439 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: claim with them in the country waiting to be adjudicated, 440 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: because in New York City you don't even get your 441 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: first immigration trial now for ten years. So you need 442 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: a return to Mexico or return to their home country 443 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: or safe third country and let people wait out their time. 444 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 4: If they have a valusylum claim, we will judicate it 445 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: while you're not in the US, while you either in 446 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: Mexico or your home country if you literally have a 447 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: val asylum claim. Those kind of consequences have worked in 448 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 4: the past when we had a flood of much smaller 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: floods from Brazil. It worked under the Trump administration. It 450 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: would work under the Biden administration. If there are metrics 451 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 4: to this Ukraine bill, it won't work. We just pass 452 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: the law, because again, this is a lawless administration. Biden 453 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: has no intention of following whatever law Congress passes. 454 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's been our biggest issue when people 455 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: talk about gun control. We don't follow laws as it is. 456 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: What would if you went in and you made a 457 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: bunch more laws about guns. How is that going to 458 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: do anything if you don't follow the laws you have 459 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: on the books about guns. 460 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's been. 461 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: My biggest frustration, is this lawless administration. But it's the 462 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: same no matter where you go. I mean, in Michigan, 463 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: we have this tragedy on Michigan State's campus, and again, 464 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: had this man who was caught with a weapon, and 465 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: had he been convicted of the felony he should have 466 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: been convicted of in the first place, he would have 467 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: never had a weapon on the campus. So, I mean, 468 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: I just see this time and time again, where not 469 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: following laws. They want to make new laws, they don't 470 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: follow the ones they have. It's just a huge problem. 471 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, though, I want to get 472 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen and the vaccine, because you've been very 473 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: vocal about wanting to have the COVID safety data, and 474 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: this is something that we've talked about quite a bit. 475 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: We've had experts on who have said, this is the 476 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: first time we've ever been in a situation where we 477 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: haven't been able to review the safety data from these 478 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies. Why can we not get this information When 479 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: we see people dying of heart attacks at young ages, 480 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: we see young people with blood clots, we see young 481 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: people with myocarditis and hard issues. 482 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: Why is it so hard to get this data? 483 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: Because drug companies and our federal health agencies lied to 484 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 4: us bold face in a number of different instances, and 485 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: now they can't admit they were wrong. The BodyCount is 486 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: way too high. They told us this would stay in 487 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: the our muscle, not by distributed all over the country. 488 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 4: Yet they knew from bio distribution study and rats of 489 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: the lipidanoparticle there's going to go all over the body 490 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: in constrit and the ovaries and other different different organs, 491 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: the adrenal glands. They kept that from us. They lied 492 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: to us, They lied to us that this was a vaccine. 493 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: It's not a vaccine. This is gene therapy. The vaccine 494 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: bi distributes, It attaches to a cell. It injects the 495 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 4: mRNA into your cell. It juices the mitochondria to give 496 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: the engine of the cell the energy to produce a 497 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 4: spike protein that is toxic to the body. It's expressed 498 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: by the cell and then attacked by the body. G 499 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: I wonder why we're having problems that attacks to a 500 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: heart muscle. The body attacks a heart muscle, causing inflammation. 501 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: That's what myocarditis is. You attach that to a cancer cell. 502 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: You juice the myochondria of a cancer cell. What might 503 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: that cause? Again, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a 504 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: medical researcher. This is just in layman's terms. I'm providing 505 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: information in terms of what should have caused federal health 506 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: agencies to look at this. 507 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: Far more carefully. 508 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: And now now that we see, for example, more than 509 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: thirty six thousand deaths on the veyor system worldwide associated 510 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: the COVID vaccine twenty four percent of those deaths occurring 511 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: days zero one or two. Now I realized the veyor 512 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: system doesn't prove causation, But man, that correlation sure concerns me. 513 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: Why isn't concerning our federal health officials? 514 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: The VSAY system, this was set up specifically to track 515 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: adverse events with the COVID vaccine. Ten million people volunteered. 516 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: Eight percent of those individuals had to seek medical care 517 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: after the vaccine. Twenty four to twenty five percent basically 518 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 4: couldn't carry out their daily activities for a day or 519 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: two because of the advers revaction. 520 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: Of the vaccine. 521 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: That's a screaming safety signal, Yet it was buried. Aaron 522 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: Sirey had to sue the federal government just to release 523 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: that dat. So again, they lied to us. They know 524 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: their problems, they've got safety signals, they've got their own analysis. 525 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: They won't turn that over to us because they lied 526 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: to us, and they don't want to admit they're wrong, 527 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: and they certainly don't want to have us be able 528 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: to prove that they lied to us. 529 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's so much to unpack and what 530 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: you just said. Obviously you're talking about a lot of 531 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: these people that are having symptoms within the first few days. 532 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: But something you mentioned, one of my relatives was trying 533 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: to go through all the research and as much as 534 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: he could find online, going through all of this, and 535 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: one of the things was the fact that the settles 536 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: in the overreast, and that was I have four daughters. 537 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Many of my family members have young girls, and at 538 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: that time, we were being heavily pushed to vaccinate our kids, 539 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: and we said, no, we're not going to vaccinate our kids. 540 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: And then he came up to us and he said, 541 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: look at this weird note. And I think it was 542 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it was one of the pharmaceutical companies. 543 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: I think it was Pfiser that had this strange note 544 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: in their information that said this settles in the ovarias. 545 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: And I think, what are the we're talking about my 546 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: olecarditis where you can feel it. We're talking about these 547 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: folks that have died within three days or had these 548 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: terrible symptoms. What are the long term effects and what 549 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: are the long term effects on fertility? Because I think 550 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: family is absolutely what builds this country, and if they 551 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: can take away family that is going to that just 552 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: destroys the entire country. Obviously, but what do we know 553 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: about the long term effects of this vaccine and how 554 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: do we ever find it out? 555 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: Well, your listeners, you can go to a doctor James Thorpe. 556 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 3: He's an OBGYN for forty years. He's written extensively on this. 557 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: He's appeared in some of my Senate panels. It's frightening. Again. 558 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: I don't talk publicly about all the things that I've 559 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: read that I know because I don't want to frighten people. 560 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: I think the good news is this. 561 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: I think out of a Denmark study, about seventy percent 562 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: of people that did get the vaccine exhibit no side 563 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: effects whatsoever. Another twenty percent to some mild side effects. 564 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: It's pretty well limited. About four or five percent of 565 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: the population that are really seeing serious side effects from 566 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: the vaccine. So you know, if you're not seeing him, 567 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: try not to worry about it. But our federal officials 568 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: should be worried about it. They should be concerned, they 569 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: should be conducting studies. It's remarkable what studies weren't conducted 570 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: and still aren't conducted. And then you can even broaden 571 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: this to the childhood vaccines. Now now that gotten into this, 572 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: we've we've never tested the childhood vaccines against the true placebo. 573 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: It's terrifying. 574 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: I saw something yesterday showing the number of vaccines that 575 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: I took when I was a kid compared to the 576 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: number of vaccines that my kids get. And I'm like, man, 577 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: how are we not making a bigger deal about this. 578 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: It's just something that we've for so long, we've just 579 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: gone along with it. 580 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: Well, we gave vaccine manufacturers, you know, absolute liability. It's 581 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: a huge profit center. As a result, they make a 582 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: lot of money off this, and so they wanted to 583 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: keep pushing more and more and more vaccines. It makes 584 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: no sense. And what's really tragic about this is our 585 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: federal health agencies. Their job should be to ensure safety, 586 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: to hold the pharmaceutical company's. 587 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: Feet to the fire. But they've been captured by big farmer. 588 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: You know. 589 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: That's that's what all the billions of dollars a big 590 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: farmer spends on advertising. 591 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: The fact that. 592 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: They're fun through FDA used the agencies are funded through 593 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: FDA user fees the sales or drugs, The fact they 594 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: have a revolving door of federal health officials back into 595 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 4: fier with Scott Gottlie, FDA commissioner. Now he's on the 596 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: board member Phfizer and a big push of the vaccines. 597 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: So again, the. 598 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Actually they can even advertise the way they do is crazy. 599 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: It is I mean, listen, I'm a sales guy. 600 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: There's no way I would advertise a project where I've 601 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: got to list all the side effects. 602 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: Including death. Why would they do that. 603 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: The only reason they'd spend those billions of dollars putting 604 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: up those stupid ads that actually scare people more than 605 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: convince them to use their drug is that allows them 606 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: to capture the narrative. So, for example, during the pandemic, 607 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: you had all of these news organizations up and down 608 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: the line censoring truth, censoring the real information, calling people 609 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: like me nutcases, and vilifying and ridiculing me, and labeling 610 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: the information I was providing that was literally just government 611 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: information as misinformation. 612 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Well, we are blessed, we are blessed that you decided 613 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: to run for another term, and we are so grateful. Honestly, 614 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I know people across the country are so blessed by 615 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: your presence there in Washington, d C. And how hard 616 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: you're fighting for us. Senator Ron Johnson, thank you so much. 617 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on and thank you all for 618 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: joining us today on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this 619 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: episode and others, check out Tutor Dixon podcast dot com. 620 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: You can subscribe right there, or head over to the 621 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast 622 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: and join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 623 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: Have a blessing,