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Speaker 1: great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcasts every day this time,

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Speaker 1: We're at your service. Good to have my boy. Jay

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Speaker 1: stew Back obviously heard the lovely Montsey Belanos, So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's excited about Chris Paul two point zero in Clipperland,

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Speaker 1: and of course, uh the always steady Iowa Sam on

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Speaker 1: geeks out for. Let's just call it like it is.

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Speaker 1: He's excited. Here you go, He's he's excited, excited and excitable.

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Speaker 1: I think we had a pretty good show. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good day. I hope you're having

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Speaker 1: a great summer sad news Ozzy Osbourne dies at the

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Speaker 1: age of seventy six. When I say sad, it's anybody

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Speaker 1: who dies, it's sad. But as I think Jay stew

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Speaker 1: you said, or was it you? Sam? Like a bit

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Speaker 1: of an upset. Ozzy Osbourne made it seventy six years right?

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Speaker 1: Who was it? Which which one of you two said that?

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Speaker 2: No, that's definitely my humor, and it is an upset,

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Speaker 2: Like I remember when we were watching The Osbourne's thinking,

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Speaker 2: this guy's only got a couple more months to whip. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like twenty six years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there was a certain there was a point there

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Speaker 1: where you felt like there was a weekend at Berney's

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Speaker 1: taking place right where you're like, gee, they just propping

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Speaker 1: him up for this show. But Ozzy Osbourne and I

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Speaker 1: thought the point, you know, without trying to make it,

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Speaker 1: because I think you left it so that I could

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Speaker 1: make it, that you make it. The Osbourne's was a

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Speaker 1: bit of a breakthrough show, right. It paved the way

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Speaker 1: for the Kardashians. I don't know if the Keeping Up

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Speaker 1: without the Osborns. Maybe that's for your next pod jays

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Speaker 1: too for your next Bachelor lifestyle pod. Good idea, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because without the Bachelor and without the Bachelor in Paradise,

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Speaker 1: Love Island has no chance of being as big as

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Speaker 1: it's been. Again, more ideas for your podcast. That's what

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Speaker 1: I do here. Don't have ideas for my show for

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Speaker 1: your podcast. I thought Colin had some some really interesting

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Speaker 1: things to say earlier today in regards to Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: and talking about when you try and do try and

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Speaker 1: being average at all of them. And he was of

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Speaker 1: course specifically responding to Jerry Jones when he was asked

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Speaker 1: if he thought he'd ever bring in another guy to

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Speaker 1: be the actual gentleman manager. Here was his response yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to

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Speaker 3: have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,

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Speaker 3: we've signed.

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Speaker 4: A stepping away as general manager. Ever been even a

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Speaker 4: momentary consideration for the years? H Yes, momentary, A lot

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Speaker 3: Now we're getting down to it, small fractions of seconds

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Speaker 3: as you know, you see it. I'm in the Senior bowls.

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Speaker 3: Combines all of that, all of that melts in two

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Speaker 3: I'm not sitting up there throwing darts about a player.

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple different parts to it. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a basketball analogy. You tell me if

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Speaker 1: it makes sense. Jase too, Sam, So there are coaches

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Speaker 1: He doesn't do the subs And I just to me,

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Speaker 1: that's well, that's like in pregnance, having somebody else impregnant

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Speaker 1: That's that's my thought about it, especially when the former

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Speaker 1: when you hear how Jerry Jones explains it, I think

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Speaker 1: The point is in the NFL, you draft, you let

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Speaker 1: point I made about the subbing and the letting somebody

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Speaker 1: tell Jerry Jones what he should do from our perspective

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Speaker 1: as outsiders. The reality is, if you own the most

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Speaker 1: If you want to be the coach, you can be

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Speaker 1: the coach. Like that's your money, you're allowed to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's where the expression owners own, because owners owns. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, they want to do something,

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Speaker 1: they just damn well do it. No problem, problem solved.

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Speaker 1: But I I I also think we have a misconception

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Speaker 1: that guy. Let's take that guy. It's not to say

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Speaker 1: that what the Cowboys are doing is perfect or right.

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Speaker 1: And I do think there's a certain amount of what

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Speaker 1: not just the GMing and the marketing, and it's they

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Speaker 1: They become beholden to players who they should let go.

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Speaker 1: The drafting at times has been really good, at times

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Speaker 1: free agency that didn't make sense. It's all those things

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Speaker 1: constantly just comes up short. But all of our opinions

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Speaker 1: don't matter because we didn't pay the money. We didn't

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Speaker 1: In this particular case, he's like I could hire somebody else,

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Speaker 1: just don't have that much talent. Hasn't been the case.

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Speaker 1: That hasn't what been what has kept the Cowboys from

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Speaker 1: performing in the playoffs. I don't think Dak's that good,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're in that little bit quarterback purgatory.

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Speaker 1: the idea that you bring in a different GM, he

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Speaker 1: didn't have to. If you own the team, you want

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. He doesn't have to now, Yes, if you

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Speaker 1: do too much, something will fall short. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's in the coaching hires they make, and in the

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Speaker 1: he had his flaws in the playoffs, but then he

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Speaker 1: you know, I look at I look at Jerry, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not defending him, but everybody talks about him giving

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Speaker 1: the contracts, what it all looks like. That is on Jerry.

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Speaker 1: That is his issue. But that doesn't mean you can't

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So so, reputations

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Speaker 1: are really really hard to shed, right, really hard to shed.

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Speaker 1: And the Bengals have a reputation of being cheap. Now,

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Speaker 6: If we get a player who gets involved in something

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Speaker 6: I don't want to pay him. I really don't. If

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Speaker 6: got involved in conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to

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Speaker 6: terminate the guaranteed part for the back years. As agent says,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like, look at some point, I truly

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Speaker 1: It relates to all this talk about fully guaranteed contracts,

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Speaker 1: like so much of this stuff is agent driven, agent driven,

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Speaker 7: like an NBA headline. But it wouldn't exist if Jerry

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Speaker 7: it feels like his favorite thing to do is tell

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Speaker 7: you about everything that's going on. Now. Granted says prerogative

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Speaker 7: is his team, but I would imagine whenever, and I'm

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Speaker 7: not rooting for Gerry to go anywhere, but whenever Steven's

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Speaker 7: in control and the point guy, the Cowboys probably quiet

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, did

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Speaker 1: you know Philip Rivers wasn't retired?

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Speaker 7: I said that yesterday when I saw the headline, I

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Speaker 7: assumed he retired, like back when, like Peyton Manning. Did

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Speaker 7: I know that he's been gone forever?

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this before the show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's all a famer, but more than anything, like,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't feel cheated by the Philip rivers

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Speaker 1: eg experience as a Charger fan, right like, never got

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Heck, I don't think they got

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Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 7: But I never felt toward against the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right. And he played with the torn ACL

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Speaker 1: and n LT didn't play and he had a minor neathing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean that's like the ultimate stuff, right Like,

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Speaker 1: played in an AFC champions who game with the torn ACL?

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Speaker 1: Now he was he was never a good athlete, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it really hurt him, but it did

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Speaker 1: could not have felt felt good having had a torn

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Speaker 1: a cl and then tried to go for a walk

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Speaker 1: with my dogs and stepped in a hole. It was

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Speaker 1: the greatest pain I ever felt in my life. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, I actually do feel that. But I never felt,

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Speaker 1: never felt cheated by the by the by the by

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Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers experience well part of it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: It was like a golfer. At any moment, he could

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Speaker 7: hit it out of bounds. I mean he threw some picks,

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Speaker 7: but he could also have games that would just like

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Speaker 7: this guy is such a badass. You know. He didn't

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Speaker 7: have a great arm, which I think led to some picks,

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Speaker 7: especially the little Layton games when he was pressing. Uh,

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Speaker 7: he's kind of like the poor man's Peyton Manning. But

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Speaker 7: in terms of respect and like hall of fame, to me,

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Speaker 7: my standards are a little higher I think than most.

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Speaker 7: You tell me he gets in one day, wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: surprised to me. Probably in the hall of really good.

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Speaker 7: I've always thought, though, Doug, that you know, seeing some

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Speaker 7: of these guys like Drew Bury is a good example,

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Speaker 7: awesome guy. If he was your quarterback and you're stoked, right,

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Speaker 7: he'd probably be an awesome GM or an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think he's great on TV. I think

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Speaker 7: Philip Rivers, if you put him in like the CBS,

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Speaker 7: like just a crew, he would be a star. You know,

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Speaker 7: his passion, his energy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Think he would be so good and he would kind

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Speaker 7: of like what Romo did for his career, but it

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Speaker 7: even be different. I just think he's a little more likable.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I think he'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: You and I, you and I both. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: used to we go down there for Chargers camp every year,

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Speaker 1: and you get done talk with me like, I think

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Speaker 1: you might invite me for dinner tonight. You know, he

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Speaker 1: just has that warmth and that ability to make it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're best.

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Speaker 7: I think he could be John Madden as a player,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of that kind of personality. Just I

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Speaker 7: think he would have been a superstar on TV, which

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Speaker 7: he made so much money. He's got fifty kids.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if ever well, I think he said

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Speaker 1: he wants he loves ball, like his dad was a coach,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to coach, so he's like coaching high

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Speaker 1: school ball.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's kid good, right, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: think it's like fifteen year old or sixteen year.

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Speaker 1: Old, one of them has one of them has to

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Speaker 1: be good. Just the numbers tell you that one of

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Speaker 1: them has to be good, right exactly. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: probably not all good. There's got to be one that's

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Speaker 1: like now, now he's shaving his tongue with a razor,

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Speaker 1: right like multiplicity. Uh, but I don't.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna feel really old. We're gonna feel

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Speaker 7: really old with it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's one thing Cooper's son is good. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: when Philip Rivers or Matt Stafford has a kid that's

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Speaker 7: like draft eligible, you're gonna be like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well Philip Rivers could have like an entire offense

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Speaker 1: be all his kids. That might be Yeah, I'd be fascinating, right,

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Speaker 1: that'd be the jumping acoff. The Three and Out is

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Check it out on the Volume podcast Network. John,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us do Stug Gottlieb show

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. You know the only thing

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Speaker 1: about and I probably could ask John about this one,

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Speaker 1: but the only thing about this crew, I think Sam

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Speaker 1: is the one guy who we connect on this is

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Speaker 1: like this is the hardest week and a half. But

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Speaker 1: once you get to August, you're starting to get excited

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Speaker 1: about college football.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 9: And we have ACC media days, big ten media days

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Speaker 9: coverage on right now, so we're ramping up. We're gearing

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Speaker 9: up here and it is almost when we're in the

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Speaker 9: second half of July. Here, the month is gonna be

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Speaker 9: over before we know it. And just seeing these coaches

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Speaker 9: and players representing their teams at these media days, you're like, yep,

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Speaker 9: college football rider on the.

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Speaker 1: It's so weird though, right, Like, okay, so now we

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Speaker 1: have a playoff, but the leagues are very different. Some

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Speaker 1: you don't play teams you used to playing. You do

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Speaker 1: play teams you're not used to playing all the most

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Speaker 1: of the teams are brand new. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: like fifteen padded practices. Then you're playing a game. Now

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Speaker 1: you can survive an early season loss, whereas previously you

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Speaker 1: couldn't remember they have week zero in week one and

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Speaker 1: all that other stuff, like I don't even know which

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Speaker 1: week is week zero. I think is August thirtieth, week zero?

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Speaker 1: No idea, but man, I I start when once I

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Speaker 1: see an eight at the start of a month, immediately

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Speaker 1: all I can think of, is well, college football. College

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Speaker 1: football August twenty third is when it kicks off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: August twenty You've got some state in k state in

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Speaker 1: Ireland conference game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Ireland College for Airling is college fool Classic, but

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Speaker 9: it will it'll count as a conference game.

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Speaker 1: So they don't get a little appetizer. Nothing really that

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Speaker 1: stase she doesn't get excited for it the way we do.

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Speaker 1: We're like geeking out about it.

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Speaker 9: Say, Kansas, that's not bad. The rest of my Stanford Awaii,

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Speaker 9: It's okay. It's little appetizer.

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Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 5: This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 1: Show, Monte Blagias. What's the game today?

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Speaker 10: Coach? We are playing rank up. That's right, So you're

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Speaker 10: gonna be ranking a variety of things for me and

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Speaker 10: the listeners here. Coach, let's start off rank the top

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Speaker 10: three most relevant college football programs. As you and I was, Sam,

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Speaker 10: we're getting so excited and geeking out about the upcoming

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Speaker 10: football season. Ranked the top three most relevant.

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Speaker 1: College as you guys are getting.

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Speaker 10: You are geeking out. Yeah it's awesome, yes, yes, but

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Speaker 10: now now I know when it starts and all that,

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Speaker 10: so thank you. Now we got the dates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, top three most relevant. Yes, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 10: Ohio State three, Ohio State three, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bama two and Georgia one. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you my logic behind Yeah, please do. Georgia went

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Speaker 1: back to back national titles. We're a little bit like

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Speaker 1: we're always kind of late to catch up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I think that although they were just okay last year,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're good last year, still made the College

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Speaker 1: Fall Playoff. You know they're still okay. I you know

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Speaker 1: you went back to back. Tellson Alabama has been the

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Speaker 1: most dominant in the last twenty years to fall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then Ohio State is right there like one B

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Speaker 1: with Alabama and they're coming off a national title win.

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Speaker 9: So those are my three, Doug, I think Steve Sarkisian

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Speaker 9: and Texas would like a word with you. They have

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Speaker 9: been quite hot on the recruiting trail. Texas Longhorns honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Texas has really been the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: of college football since they were in the National Championship

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Speaker 1: game way back when. Obviously, this past year reinvigorated them.

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Speaker 1: And because they have what's his name manning a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be super relevant this year. But I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about overall relevance. I'll still go with the other schools.

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Speaker 10: Interesting. I'm surprised Oregon wasn't mentioned also, even as an

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Speaker 10: honorable mention for relevancy.

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Speaker 1: Or it could be honorable mention if you want honorable mentions.

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Speaker 10: There's lots of hooray, you're right, we're doing.

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Speaker 1: We need a Notre Dame is an honorable mention?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yes for the tops, yes, yes, yes, all right,

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Speaker 10: let's move on here. Let's stick with football though, But

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Speaker 10: just uh, head to the NFL rank the top or

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Speaker 10: the four just in the order. Rank the teams in

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Speaker 10: the NFC.

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Speaker 1: East in terms of relevance.

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Speaker 10: No, how do you think they're going to worst to

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Speaker 10: best finish? Yeah? Who will win the division? Or how

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Speaker 10: will you rank them? Just the four in the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Giant from the from the bottom to the top.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, from the bottom of the top.

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Speaker 1: Giants, Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles, Eagles at one.

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Speaker 10: Eagles will win again. Yeah, there's been parody in that

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Speaker 10: division for like twenty one years. There's been no repeat

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Speaker 10: division winner, and you got them winning. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I I could see Washington, but I fear of sophomore

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Speaker 1: slump there, so I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Eagles,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right?

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Speaker 10: The division I find very interesting. NFC North coach those Yeah, well,

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Speaker 10: you know I.

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Speaker 1: Do live in Green Bay, Wisconsin, so we know who's

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Speaker 1: being ranked number one.

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Speaker 10: Bears four, Bears four Yeah, okay, Bears four, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: For Vikings No, Lions three Vikings two. Packers won. Wow, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Lions lost their coordinators players, Like sure, I think

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Speaker 1: But a lot of new pieces, a lot of new stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know about Vikings at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but other quarterbacks that perform really well. JJ McCarthy is

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Speaker 1: a rookie. I mean, you got a guy who's quarterback

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Speaker 1: whispers a head coaching kind of skill. And I know

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Speaker 1: that the Packers only won one game in division last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh, but better at wide receiver, better across

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Speaker 1: the board. And you know, if Jordan loves turn the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, all right, I like it.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 10: Okay, moving on here, Jimmy Graham announced that he is retiring,

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Speaker 10: so ranked the top three most well known Saints players.

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Speaker 10: Saints had a lot of retirees this offseason.

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Speaker 1: The top three most well known Saints players. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Breeze is at one, Yeah for sure. Alvin Kamara, I

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Speaker 1: go Alvin Kamara. And what's some man's name, the defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman who's really bright. Good interview. I'm not forgetting. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: helped me out.

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Speaker 10: I wish I wish was here.

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Speaker 1: M Jordan. I'm gonna do Cam Jordan three nice and

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Speaker 1: then you know who one is, and Alvin Kamara two,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees.

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Speaker 10: One that makes sense and that's game time.

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Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: It's a Doug Gotlab show coming up next year. On

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Speaker 1: the show Wait to Hear at Camp, Newton had to

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Speaker 1: say next