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Speaker 1: USA Today Insider Bob and I and got covering the

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Speaker 1: GM meetings right now, joining us on FT not just

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Speaker 1: today but more regularly. Bob, we're excited about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: we love having you on here, so I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to tell the world you'll see more, Bob. Bob, it's

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Speaker 1: great to have you. Do you enjoy these appearances? I

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Speaker 1: hope you do, because you're going to see us more now.

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Speaker 2: Love hanging up with you guys, love watching you guys.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a pleasure. Bob.

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy we got you off the craps table

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Speaker 3: to get you up here to do this interview. So

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Speaker 3: thank you for taking a five minute break to come

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Speaker 3: see us.

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Speaker 2: I love craps I do. I know, I know. There

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bob, we're excited. Yeah, we love doing these. So

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Speaker 1: let's dive right in and let's pick some things out

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Speaker 1: from your latest notes column. Let's start with the defending

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Speaker 1: champce Los Angeles Dodgers. The storyline with them is always

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Speaker 1: spending and they're out spending everyone. But I thought you

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Speaker 1: took a different turn. That was interesting. News flash, there's

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Speaker 1: actually a lot of money coming off the books for

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Speaker 1: this team, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got eighty seven million dollars coming off, you know,

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Speaker 2: going back to Chris Taylor no longer there, Michael Conporto

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Speaker 2: will be gone playing Kershall will be gone. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: any seven million bucks come off the books. They need

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Speaker 2: to get that bullpen right. Obviously, they're not going to

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Speaker 2: the postseason. You can't do that in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But I think they got to go get a big

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Speaker 2: last year. They got away with it, you know, last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they get away with it this year.

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Speaker 3: Edwin Diz Bob Dz to the Dodgers. Are we talking

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Speaker 3: big like that or are we talking smaller? Hopefully Tanner

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Speaker 3: some of these other guys trying in another year like

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Speaker 3: is there? Are we talking go out and sign a

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Speaker 2: I think that you'll get a big name. I think

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Speaker 2: do it. I don't know if they bringing back Kelly Janssen.

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Speaker 2: I think a cool story uh if he did come back. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but they'd love to get some stud Uh tell you what,

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Speaker 2: and if listen for class A gambling thing and they

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Speaker 2: would be all in on him, getting him to LA,

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Speaker 2: he had a guy that they don't worry about. I

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Speaker 2: think Dave Roberts has loses his mind having to pick

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Speaker 2: and choose night after night.

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Speaker 3: What about p Fairbanks he just got he just got

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Speaker 3: DFA or non tender or whatever they did however you

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: He he likes pitching in warm weather because he gets

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Speaker 4: And La is about the same every day. LA and

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Speaker 3: You know it's well, San Francisco not so much, but

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Speaker 3: the other two are pretty good in Arizona's insight.

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Speaker 4: That's a good division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call. I mean, Freeman loves his

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Speaker 2: they got donand vast Now from there. Why not? So

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Speaker 2: that's a good call.

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Speaker 5: The trade, the trade part of it, because you just

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Speaker 5: for the Dodgers out there where it's like a team

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then my next question that leads you into

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Elias is under more pressure just because

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Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, David Stearns is going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's embarrassing to have that kind of payroll

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Speaker 2: You know, you're right, a Jay. I mean, you got

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Speaker 2: and hey, you know, the guy you know, new ownership,

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Speaker 2: you gotta spend some money. He hasn't spending big money yet.

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Speaker 5: You talk about in your in your article, you talked

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Speaker 5: away for the lockout. You got a full season here.

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Speaker 5: Are there any teams that are gonna say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're all fearful. But I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: if there's only a half a season in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: money lost. The Diamondbacks can't kicking themselves. They backloaded massive

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Speaker 2: I think we'll see more frontload of contracts because of

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Speaker 2: the potential lockout.

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Speaker 1: to get to the trademarket. Let's start here. You put

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Speaker 1: Schooble in skins, know and no for getting traded skins.

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Speaker 1: I get it. You don't think Trek Scoogle gets traded

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Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, you know, you push it to

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Speaker 2: a limit there for the in the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 2: the Tiger fans are going nuts. They're well below the

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Speaker 2: luxury tacks, so you're not gonna get fair value. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are you going to get for Cherry Scooble, You know,

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Speaker 2: nothing compared to what he's worth now July. You know

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Speaker 2: they can listen say what you know what we got

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Speaker 2: to move them. We'll still get a lot back in return.

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Speaker 2: I just think that the fan pushback would be so intense.

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Speaker 2: You just can't trade this guy. Just too valuable. Mat Me,

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Speaker 2: it's the number one guy out there.

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Speaker 1: Counterpoint, what if they're good next year, which they should

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Speaker 1: be I mean, if you're a contending team, how can

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Speaker 1: you trade one of the best starters in this sport?

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Speaker 2: You can't. Yeah, I just think ride with it. You know,

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Speaker 2: you'll go with it for him, and uh you see

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Speaker 2: what the price is is someone gonna pay four hundred

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Speaker 2: a hometown discount. I think you like the stay needs right,

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Speaker 2: but he's not gonna take less money to stand needs right.

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Speaker 4: Bob, Why can't they sign him?

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Speaker 3: Do we need do we need to raise mister Illich

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Speaker 3: back up and get him to sign this guy? This

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the that they're under the luxury tax. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know Glabor Torres is a free agent, but they

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Speaker 3: they're on their way fast. Why can't they just I

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Speaker 3: know Boris doesn't do it, but I'm talking about after

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Speaker 3: the season. Wouldn't they You think they'd be the favorite

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Speaker 3: something done now to give your fans hope.

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Speaker 2: They shit, I don't know what to take now, take

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Speaker 2: over four hundred million to do it, Lisa nine are

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Speaker 2: at least four or fifty million. I don't see the

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Speaker 2: Tigers doing that. But yeah, I mean agree aging. If

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Speaker 2: you know mister Eliz was still alive, he would get

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Speaker 2: it done. He would do whatever it takes. But you

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Speaker 2: know the rest of the family with mster real edge

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Speaker 2: isn't built the same way they saw have been on

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Speaker 2: the luxury tacks or when Mike Elitch was alive. You

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Speaker 2: know he was spending as much money as a Steinberg

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Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, you ruffled some feathers in San Diego when

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Speaker 1: you threw out the name Fernando Tatist Junior for the

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Speaker 1: Padres and the trade block. Can you explain what you

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Speaker 3: But the guy that I'm interested in is ped Alonzo.

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Speaker 3: Ped Alonso went through hell last year. Right to go

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Speaker 4: And hit US two hundred homers.

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Speaker 2: You would think so. But someone tells you that David

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Speaker 2: don't have to have he a Lonzo back. If they

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Speaker 2: I think Alonso would be a great fit in Boston.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't you ever talked to

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Speaker 2: just can't see no matter what kind of money he's

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Speaker 5: Is it a case where he takes somebody else's offer

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do do that. Remember the Yankees

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Speaker 2: I think the same thing here, tell schwarb or go

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Speaker 2: just case a perfect fit where he ends up filling

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Speaker 4: Bob. But everyone's saying Cincinnati because he's from Ohio. Come on,

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Speaker 3: Keep up here, Bob. Everyone's saying Cincinnative though they'll never

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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. Okay, and Drake Baldwin won and

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Speaker 3: they have Sean Murphy and then there's Drake Baldwin. If

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Speaker 3: Do you try to trade one of those guys? Probably

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Speaker 3: Murphy because he makes more money and if you don't.

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Speaker 4: Because if you do it that way, no one's gonna

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Speaker 4: really be happy. You see what I'm saying. So what

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Speaker 2: I think it makes more sense to trade Murphy. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to trade Drake. Baldwin just means too much

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Speaker 1: I want to take us to something really relevant to

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Speaker 2: No, I never admitted it. I think it's a smart

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Speaker 2: I know, the guys who have had kind of character

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Speaker 2: he's very smart in this thing. What happened there? What

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Speaker 2: but why did you do that? Why did you turn

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Speaker 3: Hey, take it easy on Carl Everett, Okay, just because

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different things. Bob, take care of my

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Speaker 4: So take it easy on Carl. You know he had

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Speaker 3: If you're on the team now, Bob, I want to

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Speaker 3: know you have roots of Minnesota. That's where I first

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Speaker 3: got to know you, was up in Minneapolis. What the

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Speaker 4: With the Twins.

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna trade Joe Ryan? Are they gonna sell

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Speaker 3: Like Twins fans all the time, and people mostly know

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Speaker 2: I don't think even their front office knows what's going

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Speaker 2: think people are so discussed there that they haven't tried

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Speaker 2: good news, we're keeping the team, we have more money

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also I flat out do not believe them, just

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Speaker 1: So this will be the ultimate test. If they have

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Speaker 1: try and replenish what they shut away. We shall see, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Great catching up with you. We're excited to have you

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Speaker 1: on more frequently. So we'll talk to you again soon

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Speaker 1: and have fun out there and do well tonight. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Hit those dice, hey, Bob, Well, well before you go,

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Speaker 3: Bob real quick. So we have a person on the

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Speaker 3: show that bets that don't pass line. You like fun, Bob,

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Speaker 3: So I know you are not betting that don't pass line.

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Speaker 4: You are you want? You're a man of the people.

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Speaker 2: I hate those people I hate.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Thank you, everybody does. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It just drives me nuts. You have to die. You

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Speaker 2: everybody's room for the same thing. That's what makes it fun,

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Speaker 2: a lot more fun.

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Speaker 3: Though, unless you know Mark and he's not he's rooting

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Speaker 1: He loves the villain role.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, loves the villain.

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Speaker 1: Roll well, Bob, Thank you, enjoy it out there. We'll

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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: We've got Craig Breslow quotes from the GM meetings. I'll

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Speaker 1: let you guys decide which category you'd like to jump

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Speaker 1: into first, because I have quotes good work by many

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Speaker 1: of the reporters out there, including Jen McCaffrey of The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to talk about Trevor's story, the pitching,

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Speaker 1: the lineup or Alex Bragman And then I'll cue up

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Speaker 1: a quote.

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Speaker 4: What do you got to ching pitching? Because they need

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Speaker 4: pitching pitching?

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Speaker 1: Okay? He said. The team will not pursue back of

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Speaker 1: the rotation options, while hinting without explicitly saying, you might

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Speaker 1: prefer acquiring a starter in free agency over trade, he

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Speaker 1: said via The Athletic because of the depth that we've

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Speaker 1: built up over the last couple of years. We feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good about overall starting pitching and number three ish

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Speaker 1: through ten ish on the depth chart. That's not to

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Speaker 1: take away from guys who are certainly capable of doing more,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we're going to spend a ton

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Speaker 1: of time trying to add a number four or five starter.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to make a starting pitching edition, I

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Speaker 1: think it should be somebody who can pitch at the

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Speaker 1: front of a rotation and start a playoff game for us.

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Speaker 1: I thought he worded that very well, because you have

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, I'm looking for a top end starter,

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Speaker 1: no offense to three through ten. You can elevate, but

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Speaker 1: I'm also still going to look for somebody that can

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Speaker 1: be that guy. I actually thought that was worded correctly.

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Speaker 4: It was, but that means he also said they're going

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Speaker 4: to have to spend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've done it. I mean they traded for Garrett.

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Speaker 4: Crochet traded for Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Right, they're in on everyone. But wait, what happened when

479
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Speaker 1: they got Kyrot? Crochet made the damn playoffs this year?

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Speaker 1: Crochet was a top three starter in the ALE.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so who they going to go get in free agency?

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Speaker 4: Who's the best pitcher out.

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Speaker 1: There, is Framber the best.

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Speaker 4: One, He's one of them. Dylan Ce's you.

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Speaker 5: He's the best with the highest highest ceiling. I mean

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Speaker 5: if the guys Obviously people argue like Michael King, Dylan

487
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Speaker 5: Cease has started playoff games all that stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Framervadas has won. Did he win two World Series or

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Speaker 5: just one? But I mean, like some of his some

490
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Speaker 5: of his stats, some of Framber's stats. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: he's right up there with with Zach Wheeler and quality

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Speaker 5: starts with you know, over the last decade. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this guy's probably the best. I have a hard time believing, though,

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Speaker 5: after a team goes and gets Crochet in a trade,

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Speaker 5: that they wouldn't be like that kind of worked out

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Speaker 5: for us. We got the guy for one hundred and

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Speaker 5: seventy million after we traded for him, when we extended him.

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Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing they wouldn't they wouldn't

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Speaker 5: touch the trade market. And the other part that he said,

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Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, you know, we've built up We've

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Speaker 5: built up a nice group of young He didn't build

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Speaker 5: nothing up. That was the other regime. He should have said.

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Speaker 5: We inherited a lot of nice depth in our organization.

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Speaker 1: Right, that is very true. As far as the framber

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Speaker 1: fit now framber in Boston. Now, I think he needs

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Speaker 1: to be in a place with less heat. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about the weather, fan media, et cetera. Knowing

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Speaker 1: the personality pretty well.

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Speaker 4: I just we'll too. I mean, because their big thing

510
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Speaker 4: is they got to find Starters's gone.

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Speaker 1: They have starters, They have starters, but they need He

512
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Speaker 1: wants one more big boy. That's all. He wants one

513
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Speaker 1: more big boy. Right, we'll get him because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have I'm not looking at a depth chart, but Crochet,

515
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Speaker 1: they're going to have Bao, They're gonna have totally, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have early Early, and a number of others. But

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Speaker 1: and totally Early.

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Speaker 4: Might take Dobbins is out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hurt.

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Speaker 4: But Chris Sale, Oh wait, no Valdi? Maybe they signed

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Speaker 4: a Valdi They worked out there once.

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Speaker 1: Is he a free agent?

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Speaker 4: I thought he was? No, maybe not, you know he's not.

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Speaker 4: He signed, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think they I think I think there are teams that

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Speaker 1: really want to get Japanese talent in their organization and

527
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Speaker 1: open up that pipeline because it has been so heavily

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Speaker 1: dominated by the Dodgers right now. I think Michael King's

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Speaker 1: an option ceases an option. I think there's a chance

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Speaker 1: they bring back Giolito. I think Zach Gallen would pitch

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Speaker 1: well there. I think Zach Gallen is the opposite. I

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Speaker 1: think he needs to be in a big market. He

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Speaker 1: he looks like New York starts. So put him in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Merrill Kelly, I think could be a fit.

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Speaker 4: There's not ones or two's he said he wants to one. Well,

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Speaker 4: Kelly did great.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely deserves a two year deal. Yeah, he's he's more

538
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Speaker 5: of a three or four. Like if you're going into

539
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Speaker 5: that in the postseason. I have a hard time believing,

540
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Speaker 5: Like they see what starting pitching value is. Hopefully they

541
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Speaker 5: use some of that three hundred and twenty six million

542
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Speaker 5: they got off the books for getting rid of devors

543
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Speaker 5: because the other part they need to clean up their defense.

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Speaker 5: And I know people will say, well, if this person's

545
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Speaker 5: healthy and then the whole year of this, like they

546
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Speaker 5: need to clean their defense up. If you're a pitcher

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Speaker 5: and you're going somewhere, you're gonna have to pay somebody

548
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Speaker 5: because you have to get a ton of strikeouts because

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Speaker 5: there is not a lot of pitchers who are like,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm fine without my defense behind me, Like

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Speaker 5: they need to clean up some of that defensive issues too.

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Speaker 3: That leads to why his comments about Bregman were so interesting,

553
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Speaker 3: because Bregman's a solid defender at third base, cleans up

554
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Speaker 3: a lot of messes. And he's like, well, we know

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Speaker 3: what he did, but I'm not going to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: We also know what he could do. That's just that

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Speaker 3: it's so GM speaker, Bragman should be back.

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Speaker 4: You look great.

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Speaker 3: And then when they say add power to the lineup,

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Speaker 3: a full year room and Anthony will bring more power.

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Speaker 4: You know, is Tristan Costs back?

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Speaker 3: Is he is he back with the Red Sox again

563
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Speaker 3: to try to, you know, do crazy stuff in the

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Speaker 3: outfield with no shoes on and a modon in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the summer when he's hurt.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor's story had a nice bounty this year.

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Speaker 4: But if you but if you lose Bragman, that's that's

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Speaker 4: that's thump and leadership and defense. That's why he fits

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Speaker 4: so perfect in Boston.

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Speaker 1: He's number one priority.

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Speaker 4: He has to be.

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Speaker 1: But you just can't say we desperately need him back.

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Speaker 1: It's just not how the game works, which is fine.

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Speaker 4: He can't say that. Fans will probably respect you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that is their top is not gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: One other name, by the way, pitching wise, that we

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Speaker 1: I think forgot to mention who I think could pitch

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Speaker 1: well there, Ranger Suarez. Yeah, he doesn't like media, doesn't

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Speaker 1: give a crap like, he won't even pay attention. He'll

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Speaker 1: just tell everyone now I don't want to talk, and

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Speaker 1: he'll just pitch well. Seriously, Yeah, one or two though

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Speaker 1: he's not a one, but I think I mean he

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Speaker 1: could be a one.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the thing is a crochet.

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Speaker 3: Do you want another lefty plus lefties in Boston they

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Speaker 3: don't really want because it loads of line up with righties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I love.

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is they need a bullpen

590
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Speaker 3: arm for this is for me, bullpen arm Besides Chapman

591
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Speaker 3: had unbelievable. They need a bullpen army.

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Speaker 1: Their bullpen's in good shade, and I think they need it.

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Speaker 3: They need a veteran guy because bullpens goes like this

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Speaker 3: as we all know. Okay, they need a veteran guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying a ninth inning guy. I'm saying, the

596
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Speaker 3: set sixth state inning guy that can clean up some

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Speaker 3: messes for him, and they need some right handed power.

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Speaker 3: They gotta find right handed power somewhere in this lineup

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Speaker 3: because they're all lefties. Other than Bregman, they were all

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Speaker 3: but they're a historian. Bregman and the rest are all lefties. Duran,

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Speaker 3: I bray you casses Myer thet Alonzo. He looked he

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Speaker 3: fit real nice there.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 5: I like lefties in Boston. I like lefties who aren't

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Speaker 5: afraid to throw inside. The best lefties have to throw inside.

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Speaker 5: Max Freed does a great job of throwing inside, even

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Speaker 5: if they stack it with righties. To me, there's some

608
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Speaker 5: guys that that change up, that change up and heater in.

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Speaker 5: Some guys do the cutter in really just exploits exploits

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Speaker 5: right handed hitters in Boston because they see that they

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Speaker 5: can pull the ball, and now you're just never going

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Speaker 5: to be able to pull that cutter in, that heater in,

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Speaker 5: and then it exposes you for the change up away.

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Speaker 5: So I like lefties in Boston, and the numbers were

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Speaker 5: lefties for lefties around the league this year. I think

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Speaker 5: I think both those dudes are going to be very

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Speaker 5: highly coveted.

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Speaker 4: Ranger and Framber.

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Speaker 1: We had a segment that I thought was really good

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Speaker 1: where we talked about the Golden era for left handed

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Speaker 1: pitching right now for a number of reasons that might

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Speaker 1: boost value for guys like Ranger Suarez on the free

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Speaker 1: agent market. And then lastly, he said with story he

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Speaker 1: was aware of some of the errors. I'm aware of

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Speaker 1: what some of the defensive metrics indicate. I also think

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Speaker 1: that he brought a stabilizing presence to the infield. And

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Speaker 1: my opinion is I think he was honest about wearing

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Speaker 1: down at the end of the year, because.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you see this full season in

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Speaker 4: a while and you.

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Speaker 1: See this burst where the defense kind of crumples, and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the whole year. I'm gonna put that on

633
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Speaker 1: body wearing out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he said it.

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Speaker 5: I won't even conjecture he said it. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: kind of wearing down a little bit at the end

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Speaker 5: of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get him on soon so we

639
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Speaker 1: can ask him about it. Story not Bresla, although Craig's invited,

640
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Speaker 1: everyone's invited. We're on every day. Ken Rosenthal's off season

641
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Speaker 1: notes column, his first of the off season is up

642
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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Right Now, and also he gets into

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Speaker 1: some of those topics in fair Territory. Two of the

644
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Speaker 1: teams that he touches on Texas Rangers, Minnesota Twins. We

645
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Speaker 1: did five intriguing teams to watch in the offseason last

646
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Speaker 1: fair Territory, so he picked up two other teams. He

647
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Speaker 1: was selling me. He's like, whoever we say for the five,

648
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Speaker 1: the other twenty five fan base, they're going to be

649
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Speaker 1: like hey, And so I made sure to preface it

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Speaker 1: when we started the segment. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: every team this offseason at some point on foul and

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Speaker 1: on fair. But Ken will also be on with us tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so you can ask him about some of those.

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Speaker 4: He also in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I'll wait for somebody to reply. Is he you know

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Speaker 1: he is Crat?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's in the hotel room.

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Speaker 5: I just saw. I mean the show today. Didn't you

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Speaker 5: watch the show today? I did twice.

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Speaker 1: Here's something you can ask him about. So he wrote

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Speaker 1: in his notes column that the Rays did some digging

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Speaker 1: before they didn't pick up the option for Fairbanks, and

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Speaker 1: they said a few teams are willing to take on

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Speaker 1: a salary that high for a reliever this early in

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Speaker 1: the off season. The Orioles were the exception. They brought

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Speaker 1: back Andrew Kittridge last Wednesday, knowing that they were going

667
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Speaker 1: to pick up his nine million dollar option. Man tough

668
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Speaker 1: time seeing that one. I'll take the over on Pete

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Speaker 1: Fairbanks getting more than eleven million dollars guarantee, even on

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Speaker 1: a one if it ends up being a one year,

671
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Speaker 1: Really you think he's less than eleven.

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Speaker 5: I just think he's gonna be a multi I just

673
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Speaker 5: think he's gonna be a multi year deal. I think

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Speaker 5: if it's a one year deal, probably twelve to thirteen.

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Speaker 5: If it's a two, two or even who knows, three

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Speaker 5: year deal. I don't know what teams think about his

677
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Speaker 5: fingers going numb and cold, but.

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Speaker 4: I think I have the beaf. My beef is.

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Speaker 5: Ken said the Twins are possibly going for it, possibly

680
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 5: still want to win. I'm like, what, Ken's the insider,

681
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: but he said that, and I was like, what I

682
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Speaker 5: wanted to comment when you got when we put that

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 1: Good news. You get to talk to Ken twice a week.

685
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Speaker 1: I would love to see that.

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Speaker 4: So you can ask the Twins are going for it.

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Speaker 3: They just sold they treated ten guys at the trade

688
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: deadline last year and said they're not going for it regress.

689
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Speaker 3: So I mean, unless they're gonna go out and sign

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Speaker 3: a bunch of dudes Ken. See, this is a good explanation.

691
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Speaker 3: This is why Ken fair territory.

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Speaker 4: You know you won't you have me as dork of

693
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Speaker 4: the week, but it should be you sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I got a little giggle out of this one. The

695
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Speaker 1: race pr put out that they traded Cameron Meisner to

696
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Speaker 1: the Royals in exchange for a player to be named

697
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: later a cash considerations raised the roof those jokesters over

698
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: there said chills when the player to be named later

699
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: is Bobby wit June.

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Speaker 3: But I do have a legitimate are the raised? Do

701
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Speaker 3: they still have to pay Wander Franco? No, he's off

702
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Speaker 3: the books.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean he is on I think the

704
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Speaker 1: restricted list, whatever it is, the list he's on. He's

705
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Speaker 1: not getting paid right now. Okay, Now if he suddenly

706
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Speaker 1: is free from whatever he's deal in jail, is he in.

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Speaker 4: Jail or he's I think he's on like sentenced to

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Speaker 4: jail time.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real with you. I don't know, stop

710
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: paying attention because he didn't get.

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Speaker 4: Sense but he got convicted.

712
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Speaker 5: Right, No, he's still waiting because they're there's more things

713
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: that came up about him.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. To keep it somewhat simple, I don't think

715
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Speaker 1: he's coming back to the country.

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Speaker 4: No, he can't. They won't let him in the country.

717
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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then you're not eligible and

718
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Speaker 1: he won't get paid.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just so because then they could get if

720
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Speaker 3: they don't have him on the books, they can make

721
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Speaker 3: that trade for Bobby with Junior.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's actually a good comp money wise. What a

723
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Speaker 1: ton of money off the books?

724
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Speaker 4: Well, Bobby wit like three hundred some wonders, was like yeah,

725
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Speaker 4: but I'm just saying.

726
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Speaker 1: And Max is out in the two hundreds.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it makes it much more feasible for this

728
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Speaker 4: trade to actually happen. It's not happening.

729
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Speaker 1: Let's bring up a tweet from Lumerloney, who does Red

730
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Speaker 1: tax broadcasting former player, been on with us. He's talking

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Speaker 1: specifically about Schoogle, who I could see the red talks

732
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Speaker 1: trying to acquire. I'll just read it. He said. One

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Speaker 1: thing to keep in mind in terms of Schooble wanting

734
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Speaker 1: to hit free agency. He's going to be a free

735
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Speaker 1: agent during the lockout. Who knows when it will be resolved.

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Speaker 1: He would be on He could be on his couch

737
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Speaker 1: in March or April twenty twenty seven without knowing where

738
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Speaker 1: to report once camp starts. I'd want an extension through that. Bs.

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Speaker 1: I actually strongly disagree with almost everything in there. Number one.

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Speaker 1: If you remember back to the last lockout, which was

741
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Speaker 1: not long ago, there was a little spree right before it.

742
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Speaker 1: Corey Seger signed for a ton of money, sent me

743
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Speaker 1: and signed for a ton of money. Schooble is not

744
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Speaker 1: your average Joe free agent. If they are motivated to

745
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Speaker 1: get a deal done, and he's coming off a year

746
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Speaker 1: in twenty six like he has previously, he'll be fine

747
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Speaker 1: and he can sign before the lockout. That's my take.

748
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Speaker 1: The point is Trek Scoobl's not sitting there, and neither

749
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Speaker 1: is Scott boris his rap going? You know what, aj

750
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Speaker 1: We're we're two hundred and fifty million dollars apart between

751
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Speaker 1: what we think he should get and what the Tigers think.

752
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Speaker 1: Let's give in for the most part, because we're worried

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Speaker 1: about the lockout. Screw that. They don't care about that.

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Speaker 4: Because then after the lockout there actually might be more

755
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: money available.

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Speaker 1: Correct either way, And if he's motivated to get something

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00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: done before. The way that kind of sweepstakes work is

758
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Speaker 1: the player the superstar signs when they want to sign

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Speaker 1: Boris has done this and others before too, where like

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Speaker 1: you start to hear like, hey, SODA's going to make

761
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Speaker 1: decision this weekend or whatever. Right, if Scooble is motivated

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Speaker 1: to get something done before whatever the lockout date is nextary,

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Speaker 1: I think December first, they'll get it done, that's my take.

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Speaker 1: Or it might be after the winter meetings. I think

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Speaker 1: they usually do it so that they can get that

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Speaker 1: in there. So maybe it's like December tenth, I don't

767
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Speaker 1: know whatever it is, or maybe it's before I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is, he can get it done, do you agree, Crats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can.

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Speaker 5: I mean you're not talking about every day run of

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Speaker 5: the mill guy, like you're talking about a guy who

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Speaker 5: would single handedly brought his team to the playoffs. So yeah,

773
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Speaker 5: you can get it done in whatever whatever fashion. My

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Speaker 5: guess eight years three ninety he.

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Speaker 1: Gets wow, look at you putting a number out there already.

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Speaker 1: I like it, and that would be the largest bridge

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Speaker 1: in contract for a starting pitcher ever