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Speaker 5: You got Terence Crawford, born and raised Omaha, Nebraska. You

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Speaker 5: and memorials He's taken on Canelo two champions one Legacy.

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Speaker 5: Who we got in this fight? Fellas you know? For me,

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Speaker 1: But it bears the question who's the greatest of all time?

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Speaker 1: I know, Mitch, we were sitting there. He was beating

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Speaker 5: He's a goat.

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Speaker 6: He's a goat.

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Speaker 5: Meyer's the goat.

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Speaker 7: Believe it or not. I would not go with Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 7: Would actually go with Joe Paterno.

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Speaker 5: You would go Joe Paterno.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: this whole thing that's happened in UNC right now, it

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Speaker 5: It's just life outside of Tom Brady exactly Exactly like

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Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, what is Bill Belichick without Tom Brady?

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Speaker 1: but we don't we we found out that, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: to bring it up, who is it? Personally? I believe

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people are screaming and forgetting to wipe their ass

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Speaker 5: because I will. You're such a hater on the Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: but that is my I think that's my goat too, right,

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Speaker 1: a reason, but like four passes now involved Pop Warner.

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Speaker 2: little there's literally a whole age group of football named

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That is an insane stat great stat. Also, hey, we

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Speaker 5: Get look at Andy Reid here, playoff record. Andy Reid

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, championships? You got three Super Bowl, three time

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Speaker 5: Now? He lost seven time national champion Nick Saban conference titles.

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Speaker 10: My argument for saving is this, When Andy Reid gets players,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think NFL. NFL is the hardest championship to win.

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Speaker 1: give me the Hammer and the Gray Hammer, and the

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Speaker 1: Gray said, I'm not taking the hammer in the grades.

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Speaker 1: I'm actual gonna take Trey Hendrickson instead. As far as

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Speaker 1: Morris Sachs go, fun time, it's gonna be a great

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Speaker 1: time all year. Another thing that's gonna be a great

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Speaker 1: time all year is our fantasy football league. We have

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Speaker 1: eight teams of two individuals. I'll just speak for myself

444
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Speaker 1: and myself only come by played your team last week?

445
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Speaker 1: Yes you did, and what do we do? Beat the

446
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Speaker 1: shit out of you guys? But me and Koop Comstock

447
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Speaker 1: were the only team with the logo where the r

448
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Speaker 1: y A Shockers here to shock the world, and we

449
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Speaker 1: started our season.

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Speaker 5: I want to know. We're in a barn burner right now.

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Speaker 1: Well it comes down tonight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we me and shout out Derek, we have we

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Speaker 7: have DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you guys had.

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Speaker 5: We got TJ. Hockinson and DJ Moore.

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Speaker 2: And we're up by seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, from this heroic ending with Josh Allen. Because I'm

459
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Speaker 5: sitting there, I'm like, all right, we got we got Mitch.

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Speaker 5: Could we be the highest score in the league this week?

461
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Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, we're sitting there with Hockinson and

462
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Speaker 5: DJ Moore, but yeah, right now, Mitch's squad's up because

463
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Speaker 5: Josh Allen late in the game.

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Speaker 2: That was with Xavier Worthy getting hurt on first game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see some of those things early and you're

466
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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I know, bro.

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Speaker 5: Quick shout out to FanDuel, dude.

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Speaker 1: I had a little parlay put in for that Friday

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Speaker 1: night game in Brazil Chargers Chiefs and Xavier You're worthy.

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Speaker 1: I think it was over catches or something in part

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Speaker 1: of my parlay. He gets hurt the first series of

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Speaker 1: the game, and I'm like, my parlay is fucking dead.

473
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Speaker 1: It turns out, fandle if somebody gets hurt during your game,

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Speaker 1: there's some sort of void that takes place. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the fine Prentice correct as I should. However,

476
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Speaker 1: Big Dub still lost to Parlay, but knowing it was

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Speaker 1: still alive after the first.

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Speaker 5: Series is a good game because he got what like

479
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Speaker 5: a parlay insurance bet protect It's called protect Protecture.

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Speaker 7: Your player gets hurt in the first quarter and he's

481
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Speaker 7: like the only leg that doesn't hit, then I believe

482
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Speaker 7: if like the bet still hits and he's the only

483
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Speaker 7: one that doesn't, you get your winnings in bonus bets

484
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Speaker 7: love it. And I think if your player just gets

485
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Speaker 7: hurt at all, I think you just get whatever you

486
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Speaker 7: like put down in that back.

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Speaker 1: So last thing on the fantasy unless anybody has anything

488
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Speaker 1: else to jump in on. The loser whoever gets the

489
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Speaker 1: worst in the league will have to do a twenty

490
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Speaker 1: four hour stream with their teammate. That is what will

491
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Speaker 1: have to happen. My hope is that JP and Clay

492
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Speaker 1: Matthews get last as I'd love to see JP and

493
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Speaker 1: Clay Matthews for twenty four hours in the stream. No

494
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Speaker 1: direspect to the two of it. I just think that

495
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Speaker 1: dynamic will be hilarious. Second best to me, this is

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Speaker 1: essentially one B Will Compton and Matt Malone. I think

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Speaker 1: that that is that's everything and more. That actually might

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Speaker 1: be my new one age to say it out out

499
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Speaker 1: because Will's reaction when he got Matt Malone tells me

500
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Speaker 1: everything I need to know about the team dynamic in there.

501
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: The culture of that room is a little tough right now.

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Speaker 5: Or hey, we're smooth sailing right now. We've had some

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Speaker 5: late night down by seven conversations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Matt was talking about He was like, Friday night,

505
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Speaker 1: you're talking about getting queen uh Quinn Johnson from the

506
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Speaker 1: Chargers Friday night off of Waivers and Matt's hammered at

507
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Speaker 1: a bar trying to keep up with the conversation.

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Speaker 7: You gotta talk to you gotta talk to Matt though,

509
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Speaker 7: because he seems like he came up to me. He's

510
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 7: like damn, Like you're your team is beating my team.

511
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Speaker 7: It's not our team, it's.

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Speaker 5: We gotta change the name because right now it's like

513
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Speaker 5: Team Malone.

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Speaker 2: It's like Malone's Magnificent team or something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just magnificent. Your's is magnificent Mitch.

516
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Speaker 2: Or Mitch's magnificent team. Yeah, but Matt yours is all

517
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Speaker 2: about you too. I'm not saying my team.

518
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Speaker 7: I'm saying me and like Derek and I team Mitch's magnificent, magnificent.

519
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Speaker 1: The team did whatever the fantasy league did.

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Speaker 5: They they make it.

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Speaker 7: They assigned that. I trust me, I would not have

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Speaker 7: made it Mit his magnificent team.

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Speaker 11: I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to look into that, because that's crazy shaded Malonmo.

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Speaker 1: You guys have the same exact thing.

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Speaker 5: At he's good for comments like that, like that's just

527
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Speaker 5: that's Matt. You gotta love them. Yeah, you gotta love them.

528
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Speaker 5: Matt too.

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Speaker 1: Have to love him. It's like a son, like you

530
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna like him. You gotta love him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. October ninth, as far as just do the

532
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Speaker 1: little housekeeping stuff. October ninth, we're doing a Titans watch party.

533
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Speaker 1: Where's that gonna be at? October October fifth? October October

534
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Speaker 1: fifth Brooklyn Bowl, the Brooklyn Bowl on the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: Oh way one right now, but there's a lot of

536
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Speaker 1: football left ahead of us. Also, Bust with the Boys

537
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Speaker 1: Live show at the Rococo Theater. You can go to

538
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Speaker 1: bwtv dot com get the merch, get the stuff, but

539
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: you can also get tickets to that live show along

540
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Speaker 1: with the tailgate that is taking place before the third

541
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Speaker 1: is the third annual, Third annual Bust and Ball shirt

542
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Speaker 1: that will comptence hold up right now, Yes, Busting Bull merch,

543
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: Busting Ball in the front.

544
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Speaker 5: Awesome design on the teams on there. Uh, if you

545
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 5: want one, if you just want it full fully frontal,

546
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Speaker 5: you want to say naked in front of your mirror

547
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Speaker 5: in rock Kills. Yeah, it's a good piece.

548
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Just kind of tipping right over the shirt because they're

549
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Speaker 1: a little long.

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Speaker 5: Sure have it?

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Speaker 1: Just just a just a tip of that boy gone, hello,

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Speaker 1: I'm here. Uh yeah. So nine to nineteen, Will Compton's

553
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Speaker 1: birthday is the live show. Nine to twenty, we will

554
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Speaker 1: be doing a tailgate. A lot of people have already

555
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Speaker 1: RSVP for that. That's very exciting, bust and bull merch

556
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Speaker 1: Will just showed you it's gonna be a hell of

557
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Speaker 1: a year. If you're wondering, hey, is Taylor worried? Is

558
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Speaker 1: he nervous about the Bustle Bowl? After Michigan's uh, we'll

559
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Speaker 1: just call it upsetting defeat against the Oklahoma Sooners. You

560
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Speaker 1: go back to Monday's episode and watch that. We address

561
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Speaker 1: everything in that situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and again we tapped in with our partners at

563
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Speaker 5: fan duel. Michigan favored at Nebraska is still minus three

564
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Speaker 5: and a half. If they were to play at a

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Speaker 5: neutral site, Michigan would be favored by six and a half.

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Speaker 5: The over under on that right now as it stands

567
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Speaker 5: forty five and a half points. Listen, I got a

568
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Speaker 5: text earlier with the video of the halftime speech of

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Speaker 5: coach Rule against Achron. I'm talking, buddy, get your piss hot.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking, Buddy, stick with me here, Buddy, listen to me, Buddy,

571
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Speaker 1: look at me, Buddy. They might be onto something.

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Speaker 10: I was gonna say he took some motivation from your

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Speaker 10: hype video.

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Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, he shot me a personal text talking about

575
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Speaker 5: it was a banger. Hikes videos are back in memorial

576
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Speaker 5: they are gonna be spots this year. That's not every

577
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Speaker 5: home game. There's a lot on the boys just play.

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Speaker 5: Sure you did an incredible job putting that together, but

579
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Speaker 5: there will be four five games that I'm doing it.

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Speaker 5: And the videos are back in I know, and they

581
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Speaker 5: got you juiced up for Akron. Huh, they thought, oh

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Speaker 5: we need comf He's only doing a handful of these ones.

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Speaker 5: His time is, he doesn't have a whole lot of

584
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Speaker 5: time his hands. Let's make sure that he gets Achron

585
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: out there. You gotta kick off the home opener, you

586
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Speaker 5: know what I mean. We're back in Memorial Stadium and like,

587
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 5: look at the results of the game. I'm not saying

588
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: it's my hype video, but played a very small, very

589
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Speaker 5: small part.

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Speaker 1: Right, but a part nonetheless. Yeah, question is nebrask Cornoss

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Speaker 1: win the national championship?

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Speaker 5: Is we'll calm think it a ring, I think without

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Speaker 5: a doubt, ring Like I'm not even gonna sit here

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Speaker 5: and plead for it. I'm thinking I am entitled to

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Speaker 5: a national championship. I am in my brain, I am

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Speaker 5: on the team.

597
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: If you if the Nebraska, if the Nebraska Cornerskers win

598
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: the national championship, you are entitled to a ring. They

599
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Speaker 1: do not send you a ring. They don't even contact

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00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you by a ring. How are you handling that?

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Speaker 5: I don't even have to think about it because if

602
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Speaker 5: we win the Natty number one, I'm gonna be there.

603
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: But everybody's gonna be like, hey, you coming to the

604
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: parade or we gotta get you here, we gotta get

605
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Speaker 5: you there. And it's like, whatever you guys need from me.

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Speaker 9: They would they let you suit out for the Natty.

607
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 9: You think they would let you see it out?

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Speaker 5: Just suit up, just wear the pads and stuff, be

609
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Speaker 5: on the sideline. Yeah, I'm sure if I asked, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You can literally do whatever.

611
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: He could do whatever he wants.

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Speaker 5: Best relationship with the Huskers. You guys see the light

613
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Speaker 5: show in the fourth quarter, Well, I don't know what's

614
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: funny about that. That ship is incredible.

615
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Speaker 2: They put five one out there.

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Speaker 5: They didn't put five to one, but they kind of

617
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Speaker 5: showed the pick of They kind of showed the pick

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Speaker 5: from the week before against Cincinnati, him going up to

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Speaker 5: get it. They got the black shirt logo, They got

620
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Speaker 5: a lot of cool shit.

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Speaker 2: I thot you're about to say they showed the pick

622
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Speaker 2: from your Georgia game.

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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say the Holiday Ball too. Oh,

624
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Speaker 1: so we're doing a new thing. I'm bustled with the boys.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it or heard it, I'm gonna

626
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: tell you now as you're listening with your ears or

627
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: watching with your what you got.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say you shout you should shout out?

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Speaker 5: Are this is our Tier one, this is our guy.

630
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Speaker 5: We got to shout in at Keilob Ingram for the

631
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Speaker 5: first one.

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Speaker 1: So what I was gonna say before is, uh, the teers.

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Speaker 1: We're doing tear talk. So during the football weekend, if

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00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: there's a question, concerned or a comment you'd like to

635
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: make that you want the Boys to address, use hashtag

636
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: tear talk and comments and your own specific tweet. We

637
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: will find them with the hashtag and we will address

638
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: all of your questions, comments, or concerned. This one comes

639
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Speaker 1: from Caleb Ingram.

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Speaker 5: Tier one.

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00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Tier one says the Boys are crushing it right now.

642
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: What's next outside of keeping the bottom of the pod rolling?

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00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: What's the next big goal that's going to really move

644
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: the needle for y'all? Hashtags here talk will.

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Speaker 5: Can't tell you no idea. Can I tell you?

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that makes this show successful is

647
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: we really don't know what we're doing. I think that's

648
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Speaker 1: like the one of the more beauties. We can have

649
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: the meetings, we can do, the brainstorms, we can get

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Speaker 1: on the whiteboard all we want. At the end of

651
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Speaker 1: the day, opportunities come, opportunities go. It depends on what

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Speaker 1: door we decide to open. And to be clear, I

653
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Speaker 1: like the doors we've opened so far. Yeah, I've enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the doors we've been opening.

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Speaker 5: No notes, It's more of like you get hit up

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Speaker 5: for opportunities and we're just thinking, like they think we

657
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Speaker 5: can do that, get up ESPNB and one they think

658
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: we can be on a part of that. Yeah, like

659
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 5: that would be sick.

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Speaker 1: Let's go there.

661
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Speaker 5: We get to go every Thursday. Yeah, Like Lily, most.

662
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Speaker 1: Are the boys just a failure. We're just failures. We

663
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: just continue to fail forward. That's what we do.

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Speaker 5: Put them to sleep with the GPA.

665
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Speaker 1: And then you come over the top with the ACT

666
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: and then sprinkle in some CT We're on our.

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Speaker 5: First professional conversation with the ESPN and where'd you just ask, uh,

668
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: do we have to wear anything in particular? Yeah, and

669
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Speaker 5: they're just like whatever.

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Speaker 1: One of the head execs from ESPN heard that I

671
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: was asking about you know, is there a dress code?

672
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: He texted me, no context, assless chaps. So gotta say,

673
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: right now, film pretty good about the partnership with the ESPN.

674
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Right now, I will be wearing True Classic every single

675
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Speaker 1: week except for next week. If you guys want to

676
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Speaker 1: see what I'm gonna wear next week, I'm sure we'll

677
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: come to We'll be wearing something matching. You will see

678
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Speaker 1: it that Thursday, But this Thursday, the uniform you see

679
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Speaker 1: in front of you is uniform you're probably gonna get.

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Speaker 7: Okay, for the people, for the boys in the back

681
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 7: that our goal is to get to three quarters of

682
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Speaker 7: a million subscribers.

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Speaker 1: Saying, so seven and fifty thousands of I'm alamo right now.

684
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: The old from It's All Good, Dave want a little

685
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: bit choke on you. He cut up the gas line.

686
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't working too hot, right there. You your goal

687
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Speaker 1: for the end of this year, for the end of

688
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Speaker 1: this year is to get one hundred thousand more subscribers,

689
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Speaker 1: and we have a seven hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 2: I think we need ninety. I'm pretty sure we're almost

691
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Speaker 2: at six sixty.

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Speaker 5: Okay, ninety.

693
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Speaker 1: So for Mitch Cars to be happy with Bustin's productivity

694
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Speaker 1: this year, we need to get ninety thousand subscribers between

695
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Speaker 1: now September eighth to January first, That's what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying that's not thurther for the year.

697
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Speaker 7: I'm just saying for the next goal, Like we're going

698
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Speaker 7: to keep.

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Speaker 5: Moving, getting the getting, the getting the.

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Speaker 1: Three quarters, and then the goal after that will be

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Speaker 1: a mill a million. What's the goal after that? We

702
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Speaker 1: made it one point two? Oh, that's it. After that

703
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: you shut it down, you get a million. You get

704
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Speaker 1: the cool goal.

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Speaker 7: Play a million too, Like a million, we get a

706
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 7: gold a gold plaque up there, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, it'll be a mass of

708
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Speaker 1: moment when we get that because it eventually, like it

709
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Speaker 1: might take ten years, it might take three years, it

710
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Speaker 1: might take you know, one year. Eventually we will have

711
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Speaker 1: a million subscribers, and when that day comes, it's gonna

712
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: be one of the coolest feelings of the entire world.

713
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: We got to figure out a way to get one

714
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: of those plats for everybody, so well one for you

715
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: to me at least, But like we gotta just suck,

716
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: but getting that that having that plaque like it would

717
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: be unbelievable. A milli party, milli party, I think so

718
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Speaker 1: maybe a stream when we get to nine to ninety,

719
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Speaker 1: we sit in a stream. We don't come out until

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Speaker 1: we're at a million. It's thank you full of them.

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Speaker 5: It's some social network.

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Speaker 1: Hot lines, hot lines hot lines right absolutely.

723
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Speaker 5: Right where I get like, I'm curious too, like what

724
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Speaker 5: the audience thinks because we have a lot of content

725
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Speaker 5: that comes out, like on our social channels or on

726
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Speaker 5: our YouTube. Like part of me is like, do we

727
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Speaker 5: separate and put the locker room on its own channel

728
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Speaker 5: just because we have so much We have so much

729
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Speaker 5: content that comes out, It's like I don't know if

730
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Speaker 5: some stuff gets lost in the sauce.

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Speaker 1: And if you're on the home page of YouTube, you

732
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Speaker 1: have to scroll quite a ways to get to the

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Speaker 1: locker room. Like there's a lot of extra bells.

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Speaker 5: And what I always do is I just hit videos

735
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Speaker 5: and then you just go to the recent videos. But

736
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: we got you know, we got a long form clips

737
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: that come out. Yeah, there's a playlist for the lock

738
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Speaker 5: for the locker rooms. But it's like with our football

739
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: reaction show, it's like that'll be on Monday, then busting

740
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: on Tuesday. Wednesday is the locker Room, college Football, Thursday

741
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 5: is NFL's locker Room. Friday is inside the Bus, Fridays

742
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: Inside the Bus, and Dads that's on it, that's on

743
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Speaker 5: its own channel. Now I'm talking more about the YouTube.

744
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Speaker 5: With all this stuff that kind of comes out on there,

745
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Speaker 5: I just get curious, like what it does with the algorithms,

746
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: if the audience sees it, if they're like, oh, damn,

747
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 5: I didn't know that they were doing this. I didn't

748
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: know if they were doing that. We do vlogs. You

749
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Speaker 5: got bus scenes, you got under the hood, we got

750
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Speaker 5: our quick vlogs, Like we just dropped the vlog of

751
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 5: just our day at ESPN. It's like we have all

752
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: that stuff coming out, content that you take from the episodes.

753
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Speaker 5: We got a lot of shit that comes out having fun.

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Speaker 5: We are. We're having a great day.

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Speaker 1: That is one thing we're doing boys, is we're having

756
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Speaker 1: a good fucking time. And it's only week two. It's

757
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: it can only go up from here or the way down.

758
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: Who knows.

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00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Actually there's a lot of ways you could go. But

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm having fun right now and that's that's what's cool.

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Speaker 7: Speaking about having fun. I'm gonna just take a little

762
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 7: selfish time real quick. Oh, it has been three years

763
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Speaker 7: since you guys hired me, so I wanted to say

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Speaker 7: thanks today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitch, that's that selfish at all. That's fucking awesome.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been I got like a like pictures and

767
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 7: stuff like, so three years ago today, Will is when

768
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: you called me and you texted me.

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Speaker 2: This is Will Compton for picture for reference. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh with the LinkedIn thing.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, So it's been three years, the best three

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Speaker 7: years of my life. Thank you guys for letting me

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Speaker 7: be a part of this and bringing me on. I

774
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 7: can't thank you guys.

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: All Right, we're Mitch dude.

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00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: I have a question, Mitch, if you can take the podium,

777
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 5: we're where would you rank this for best decisions of

778
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 5: your life?

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: Coming to be busting? Yeah, busting probably number one. What's

780
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: number two? Probably moving to Charlotte.

781
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: Was number three?

782
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Is that the answer?

783
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

784
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 7: Probably going to my buddy's apartment that one day so

785
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 7: I could meet my girlfriend in the elevator.

786
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Speaker 5: What's number four?

787
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Thoughhanna five? Here's what I'm trying to get at the

788
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: yearly caroling making the decision to keep that dream alive

789
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: every single year.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's your boys, man, your boys.

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00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's happening every year.

792
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, it's a choice every year.

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Speaker 5: What excites me is you have so much life to live, Like,

794
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: you haven't gotten married, you don't have kids, Like these

795
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 5: moments that I'll just you.

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00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Know eventually, like your decision or you're getting busted with

797
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: the boys, job will be four or five. Buddy, getting

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00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: married is going to be one if you pick the

799
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Speaker 1: right person. Having your first kid, but you have your

800
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: first kid, it's a fucking.

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Speaker 7: It's not like greatest things in your like greatest days

802
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 7: of your life, but like best decision definitely, Like it'd

803
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 7: probably be moving to Charlotte to get the NASCAR, to

804
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 7: then have that on my resume to then get this job.

805
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Like that's a great decision on my part.

806
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: There is a tear talk here that would be great

807
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: since we're talking about Mitch and his girlfriend. Uh. This

808
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: comes from Chris C. Kriegs eighty eight tear talk Boys

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00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 5: helped settle debate. I had it with friends last night

810
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 5: on a first date. If your date rips a fart

811
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: at any point is it over then? Question mark.

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00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: It's all about the context in which the fart is

813
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: brought out. If you're having a good time, you're laughing

814
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: maybe a lot. She goes into a big laugh, has

815
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: a two come out. I think that adds. It's like, oh,

816
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: this one's all right by me. I kind of I

817
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of mess with that.

818
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: Now.

819
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: If she's being a bit of a bee, being a

820
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: bit of a B word, and then she like sneezes

821
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: in the then we're done. All right, you can't control

822
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: yourself and your bna B we got get out of here.

823
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Those are my first initial thoughts. Not doing a lot

824
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: into it.

825
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think i'd ever I would never like

826
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: be like, oh, this is over now. However, if somebody

827
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: ripped the fart on the first day, like I'd be

828
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: a little oh is that what we're doing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

829
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 5: oh ship, we're already there. Yeah people, yeah, people exactly. Yes, listen,

830
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 5: double standard, double standard.

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Speaker 1: Right man's world, you're not doing well, still lives in

832
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties.

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: You're not doing that on your first day with the

834
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: girl though. You're not gonna no, no, I'm not.

835
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: I didn't get comfortable ripping a fart until really I

836
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: was like married with Charrow. But oh my boys, it's like,

837
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: you know, everybody's got the wodletting far in front of

838
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 5: you type of thing.

839
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Fair. Fair. I think it's all about context when it

840
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: comes to the two.

841
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: To me, I never want to believe the girls poop.

842
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Still don't, Yeah, still don't.

843
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: And with that we're well.

844
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: There's a couple more tear talks here. We got one

845
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: from Aaron Orana. It's Aaron underscore of Iran. He says.

846
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: They say, got sure. What are your top five no

847
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: negotiable health habits or bio hacks that the lay person

848
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: should implement into their daily lives hashtag tier talk.

849
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, you gotta find a

850
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: coffee shop that have that have great ice lattes. M

851
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 5: you gotta have at least one evening and night to

852
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: where you're gooning and playing video games with the boys.

853
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 5: What else? Taylor fell out the rest?

854
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: I think if you need to stay hydrated, liquid ivy

855
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: liquid IV. I think if you need to, don't need to,

856
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: but maybe it would help if you're having a little

857
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe a writer's block or creativity block. Get high, have

858
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: a couple hoots. Yeah, just a little bang, just a

859
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: touch band up right. I don't know I'm feeling. I'm

860
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: in a bit of a fog right now. Go ahead

861
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: and sit with yourself for a little bit. Change a

862
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: couple channels, get after it. Sit down there. The weather

863
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: they're starting to break right now, it's beautiful. We have

864
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: pit packages being delivered. Those are I think those are

865
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: for the soul.

866
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure you get a hotel room at least

867
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: once a month to just have time with yourself and

868
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 5: tuget out a little bit.

869
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nothing better than a hotel beating. You're nothing

870
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: better the hotel beat. But as far as like the

871
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: bio hacking, things that like are actually gonna help you

872
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: can't beat sleep, can't can't beat water. And then if

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Speaker 1: yourself a little grounding, some direct sunlight. I think those

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Speaker 1: three things are gonna it's gonna charge up your day.

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Speaker 1: Having a morning routine sets the tone for the entire day. Hell,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the week.

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Speaker 5: Strength training, Yeah, moveing some weight, backstretches, backstretches. Yeah, for myself,

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Speaker 5: that's a that's a non negotiable right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: what does it get some sunlight? I'll tell you what

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Speaker 5: a little fun fact about I've already said, you get

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Speaker 5: time insurance. Back there, going tell them to tugget. We

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Speaker 5: knocked that one out. Fun fact about sleep is your

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Speaker 5: your stages of sleep. To go through an entire cycle,

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Speaker 5: it takes ninety minutes, so one cycle, let me get

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Speaker 5: this right here, times five a night. What's that number?

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Speaker 1: One cycle times five a night, that's ninety times five. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's forty five so before and fifty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so seven and a half hours of sleep. You

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Speaker 5: can get seven and a half hours of sleep seven

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Speaker 5: days a week. That's a winner, right there. You got it?

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Speaker 5: You think of it. I was reading this book. I

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Speaker 5: read it when I was on the Titans. It's called

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Speaker 5: the book is called sleep. But instead of like everybody

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Speaker 5: gets very uh, their anxiety will pick up if they

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Speaker 5: don't hit whatever their expectations are in like a one

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Speaker 5: day cycle, zooming out and making it more like a

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Speaker 5: week cycle. So in cycles of sleep, like I said,

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Speaker 5: at one cycles of full ninety minutes, you think of

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Speaker 5: it in terms of I need to hit thirty five

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Speaker 5: cycles a week with sleep. So that way there might

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Speaker 5: be a night to where you have only six hours.

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Speaker 5: There might need to be another day where you sleep

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Speaker 5: in you get nine hours, but thirty five cycles of

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Speaker 5: sleep in a week if we're just going off asleep,

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Speaker 5: because sleep is the big one. Sleep is the big dog,

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Speaker 5: big sleep. Hydration. What is it with our boy Breca?

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Speaker 5: Some hydration, some sunlight, step on the grass, superhuman protocol,

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Speaker 5: laugh a little bit, laugh, laugh, have a joker to decide,

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Speaker 5: today's gonna be a great day.

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Speaker 1: Right, look in the mirror at night and say, I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to see what's gonna happen to me tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: What's that?

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Speaker 1: No bad days, No bad days, no bad days.

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Speaker 5: That's eight right there, That's eight. That's it. You're welcome

918
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Speaker 5: gratitude at night time, when you're saying, hey, you're the man.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna knock this out of the park tomorrow, Say

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Speaker 5: a couple of things you're grateful for.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Actually, this is a true story.

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Speaker 1: Last night was a full moon, very deep on. When

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Speaker 1: and I took out three pieces of paper. What are

926
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Speaker 1: you giving up? What are you taking in? And what

927
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Speaker 1: are you grateful for? You road those things down and

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Speaker 1: we burned them and threw them in the fireplace. Reset

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Speaker 1: the energy. None of your fucking business.

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Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: And none of your business. I'm not giving up nothing down.

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Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? Therapy? You give up none

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Speaker 5: of your business? Yeah, so it's about evingt shut the.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Matthew Santino.

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Speaker 4: At Salty Loads, thank you had Salty Loads ours a.

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Speaker 1: Sneaky elite game day food hashtag teart. I don't think

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Speaker 1: as a Mexican cal zone.

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Speaker 5: But they're mini right, little mini boys.

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Speaker 1: You have a little they it's a little piece of dough.

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Speaker 1: It's wrapped over. You get your meat, cheese, you spent

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Speaker 1: your your vegetables, those types of things in there. It's

943
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Speaker 1: a Mexican cal zone.

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Speaker 5: Mini sure. I like him.

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Speaker 1: Think of a hot pocket, but way better. That's Annada.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him. At the Farmer's Market, they got

947
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Speaker 5: that little inn stand. Yeah, with a bunch of variety

948
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Speaker 5: of I like him. I likens. Are they sneaky good food? Sure?

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Speaker 5: I think I think that's a nice surprise if somebody,

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Speaker 5: what are those? You get a Bonta, Missouri boy walker? Hey,

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Speaker 5: what are those?

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Speaker 1: It's like a Mexican cal zone? Are they minis?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: They're in their regular size?

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Speaker 5: The colon are like this, that looks smaller, so mini

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Speaker 5: co zones? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, think about where are you from? BoNT Missouri?

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Speaker 1: Checks out? Good to meet your Taylor. Yeah, dude, sucking

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Speaker 5: It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: He got me too.

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Speaker 5: I read it like an idiot shod We kick off

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Speaker 1: He's just a less tan brother, Yeah, a less brother.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: At you on the bus.

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Speaker 8: Finally, it's really only Taylor got me on the bus.

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Speaker 1: I had to have. I've been working on you for

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Speaker 1: years and has been a bit of a deal. And

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Speaker 1: you guys tweeted back and forth a little bit, right,

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Speaker 1: That's how.

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Speaker 5: We've tweeted, We've texted, We've probably been on a call together.

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Speaker 5: And he's just he's the it's the politest way as

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Speaker 5: a businessman that I know him to be. When he

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Speaker 5: talks about his time, I can't I won't be able

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Speaker 5: to make it out. It's just the nicest way of

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Speaker 5: saying no. And I just think to myself, persevered, you're resilient.

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Speaker 8: We'll run, you know, I said, we gotta find the

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Speaker 8: right time, gotta be strategic, find the right place, right location.

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Speaker 8: And you got me to your hometown.

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Speaker 5: Man, Yes, I am fired up. Where should we Let's

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Speaker 5: start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Ten pounds coming out in the hospital.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty close. Yeah, mom was I think I was

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Speaker 8: like ten six or something like that.

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Speaker 11: So I was in a small belief.

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Speaker 8: So it was, I mean, a blessing in disguise in

1086
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 8: a lot of ways to be born big. But I

1087
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 8: I'm trying to cut weight now being retired, so I'm

1088
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 8: down probably like almost thirty pounds.

1089
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: What are you? What are you sitting at right now?

1090
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 8: Two ninety five so you play in that three twenty

1091
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 8: range towards the end of my career, yeah, just have

1092
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 8: a little other extra girth. But I think in my

1093
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 8: prime prime I was between. It just depends like because

1094
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 8: some years I was two ninety five, I really didn't

1095
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 8: like it dealing with double teams with you like you

1096
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 8: guys catch that hip and I was like, nah, I

1097
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 8: can't do that. So I probably say my sweet spot

1098
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 8: when I was playing three h five three ten uh.

1099
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 8: And then a little later on, especially when I was

1100
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 8: in LA I was a little heavier at three fifteen.

1101
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 8: And then shit, you guys know you get late in

1102
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 8: the season, you start gaining weight. Yeah, that's how it got.

1103
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: Holiday season. As soon as Thanksgiving rolls around, you can

1104
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of say goodbye to the diet and the routine.

1105
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: It's so hard to keep up. Yeah, what kind of

1106
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: things are you doing that maybe someone's listening to right now,

1107
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: be like, I need to lose weight. What is domakan

1108
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: Su doing to lose weight?

1109
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 8: Man, As the older you get, the harder and harder

1110
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 8: it gets to lose weight. So for me, it's all

1111
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 8: about nutrition. I mean, my nutrition is actually down the

1112
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 8: road here in Tennessee. So I talked to him pretty

1113
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 8: much every single day just about what I'm eating when

1114
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 8: I'm focusing on huge on walks. I mean, I walked

1115
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 8: all around Nashville this morning. I loved every bit of it,

1116
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 8: got about almost four or five miles in and then

1117
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 8: still in the weight room. Man, still important to get

1118
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 8: them weights lifting. I should have came over here. I

1119
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 8: saw your guys a new set, so I didn't get

1120
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 8: no invite, so I would have listed. You may not

1121
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 8: have you may not have had enough weights, but I

1122
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 8: would have. I would have managed.

1123
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: How was how's retired life?

1124
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 8: I mean it's good. I get more time with the family,

1125
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 8: my boys. And that's really the last reason the last

1126
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 8: two years I didn't go back because I had opportunities

1127
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 8: to go back for a couple of teams one of

1128
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 8: them was in the Super Bowl two years ago that

1129
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 8: we were super close on. I mean, one of my

1130
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 8: favorite D line coaches was there, wanted me to come

1131
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 8: back and play really good GM that I enjoyed and

1132
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 8: had talked to him over the decades to be able

1133
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 8: to hopefully go play for the team, but didn't work out.

1134
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 8: And then last year had a couple options but just

1135
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 8: didn't just wasn't right.

1136
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, what would make what would have made the

1137
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 5: situation right?

1138
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 8: I mean, always the money, I'm always about understanding what

1139
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 8: it is, but money's not everything. I think that really

1140
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 8: was being able to be with the situation. I've always

1141
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 8: wished to have two rings, just so my boys don't

1142
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 8: have to share. I got twin boys that are four,

1143
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 8: so that was the ultimate goal, and that's one of

1144
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 8: the reason why I went back to Philly, Like I

1145
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 8: didn't get paid crazy money to go play in Philly

1146
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 8: my last year, but we got to a super Bowl

1147
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 8: and I saw that trajectory and I got to be

1148
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 8: a part of that success. Like I was just with

1149
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 8: Fletched the other day and like building relationship with him.

1150
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 8: You always admire guys from AFAR, but like building a

1151
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 8: relationship within six months of each other and now it's

1152
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 8: a long lasting relationship. So ultimately, it was about winning

1153
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 8: a championship. That's what I wanted to do. Money was cool,

1154
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 8: but I was one of the highest paid players ever,

1155
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 8: So I've reached that that thrown plenty of times.

1156
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you on having the two rings. I

1157
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: had two girls, I didn't have any boys, so I

1158
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: decided I want a super Bowl. I dip on that, dude,

1159
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: you want Like when I'm at Michigan, I'm watching you

1160
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and this is when you're a menace. I

1161
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: mean that as the biggest compliment ever, Like you that,

1162
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: like I'm watching you, I'm watching college film on guys

1163
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play against, and then I'll see a couple

1164
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: of clips of you just tormenting off it's a.

1165
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 5: Line and light.

1166
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: Well they't got them, not there yet, right, I'll get

1167
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: to focus. But then as I started to learn about you,

1168
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: I've played against you a few times, always a handful,

1169
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: Will start talking about you from a business standpoint, how

1170
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: like you you're a guy that is always focused on

1171
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: the what's next?

1172
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 5: When did you.

1173
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 1: Realize that, like football is not gonna last forever? Because

1174
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: as Will's reading off all the things and telling the

1175
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: stories about you being in Nebraska, you could be just

1176
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: any guy that just sits there and be like, I'm

1177
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna play football and I'm going to make one hundred

1178
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: plus million dollars and then dip you wanted to take

1179
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: a further step. What was the thing for you that

1180
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: changed that?

1181
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 8: First and foremost, I'm super ambitious, Uh, and I've got

1182
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 8: mentor and really one of my main mentors. I was

1183
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 8: just with I'm gonna drop a little gym. But like

1184
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 8: I was up in the Hampton's this past weekend and

1185
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 8: just sitting with those guys, like they have this massive

1186
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 8: venture fund, they just raised five hundred million. I'm going

1187
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 8: to get a potential opportunity to get into some special

1188
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 8: deals in the AI space with them. That is like

1189
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 8: super oversubscribed and just having that access in those different things,

1190
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 8: it's like they're always pressing on me and challenging me

1191
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 8: to like level up, continue to level up. Don't put

1192
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 8: yourself in this box just because you're an athlete and

1193
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 8: because you had a successful career. Don't let that be

1194
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 8: your end all be all. And it's always strived upon

1195
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 8: that And also looking at it from a perspective of

1196
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 8: my mom's a teacher, my dad was an engineer, Like

1197
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 8: I went to school for engineering, Like I want to

1198
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 8: be more than an athlete. And that's a common saying,

1199
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 8: but there's actually a lot of truth behind it, and

1200
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 8: I knew early on in my career and from having

1201
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 8: obviously a mother was a teacher, dad's engineer. That all ultimately,

1202
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 8: like I never wanted to be defined and put it

1203
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 8: be put in that box. So how do I strive

1204
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 8: and continue to be more successful off the field that

1205
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 8: I was on the field. And those are the things

1206
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 8: that I focused on, and the determination that that dialing

1207
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 8: in was just kind of my thing that I enjoyed.

1208
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 8: And then like you guys saw, I lit up when

1209
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 8: I'm looking at your guys' facility and I asked, well,

1210
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 8: please tell me you own this, and he's like, bro,

1211
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 8: we re rent this. I'm like, what, absolutely not. You

1212
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 8: guys got a machine over here. Let's go, Like, I'm

1213
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 8: going to be your developer. You're gonna least, you're gonna

1214
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 8: least from me. I'm gonna throw you some some some ownership.

1215
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 8: So we're tied at the hip and let's go.

1216
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: So you did pull out your phone that sideways and

1217
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: you're showing this all the building. Gods, I can get

1218
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: this done in six months, no problem. Really, you really

1219
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: put it out there.

1220
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 8: I just got to figure out the how the zoning

1221
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 8: codes work down here in Tennessee. Other than that, but

1222
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 8: I mean, let's go.

1223
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 11: I love it.

1224
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1225
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: Do you how do you find yourself? Obviously you you've

1226
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: gained access through successes in football.

1227
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 11: Yeah for sure.

1228
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: How did you when you meet these people the first time? Yep,

1229
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: make a lasting impression to where they want to keep

1230
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: coming back to you. Because I think that's what athletes

1231
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: don't realize. Like playing in the NFL, you're gonna have

1232
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet a lot of people, whether they're

1233
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: fans of the teams you play for, or they're just

1234
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: around and you just you know, people with money usually

1235
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: around people with money, they like they don't realize the

1236
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: type of opportunity that they actually have when they have

1237
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: an other shield on their chest.

1238
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: I think just to go a step further too, if

1239
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 5: there is any preparation that you did individually that was

1240
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: involved before just walking into these rooms.

1241
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 8: Yeah. So the crazy thing is it's the simple things

1242
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 8: that go the farthest. Just like you meet somebody in

1243
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 8: like old school days that give you a card, all

1244
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 8: you do is follow up and send them an email

1245
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 8: like or send them a text, if you exchange numbers

1246
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 8: or whatever. It is that simple stuff trigger something into

1247
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 8: the brand. Oh this person serious, I'm going to take

1248
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 8: a liking to them. They actually want to learn. And

1249
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 8: if you really understand it, people love to tell you

1250
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 8: about their success. They love to they'll show you the map.

1251
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 8: I just showed you a map of how to go

1252
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 8: to be successful. Ow you own your own building, Like

1253
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 8: it's fun, it's interesting, and that's their craft and they

1254
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 8: like sharing those different things. So now you have the

1255
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 8: opportunity because hey, you're a big star, whether you're in college,

1256
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 8: your pro or whatever it may be. Take that advantage.

1257
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 8: But then when you walk through that door. Make sure

1258
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 8: you start to educate yourself of how to talk to

1259
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 8: talk and walk the walk at the end of the day,

1260
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 8: and people will take their time to teach you how

1261
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 8: to do that. If you don't know, if you just

1262
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 8: ask for help. My mom always told me there's no

1263
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 8: dumb question, just ask.

1264
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've always admired how you balance both business and football,

1265
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: and a topic that's always kind of talked about you.

1266
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: You listen to like uber successful people and they talk

1267
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 5: about don't have a plan B because it'll take focus

1268
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: away from Plan A. Did you ever struggle with that

1269
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: balance while you're trying to do both or did you

1270
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 5: just in your mind it's like, I understand that I

1271
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 5: know how to commit to Plan A, but also I

1272
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 5: know that this isn't gonna last.

1273
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 8: Rep It's a great question, and I just talked about

1274
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 8: this the other day on my podcast from the standpoint

1275
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 8: of Caleb Williams the Chicago Bears. I think, for me personally,

1276
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 8: if you have a capacity and you have to know

1277
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 8: this as yourself as a human being, if you have

1278
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 8: the capacity to be able to do more than one thing,

1279
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 8: but also there's tears to it. So football was number

1280
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 8: one for the last thirteen fifteen years or whatever it was.

1281
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 8: But I created a structure of like I'm taking care

1282
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 8: of my stuff top of the morning, and then I

1283
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 8: can start to learn and be curious other elsewhere. But

1284
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 8: also people don't realize that when I'm I'm that much

1285
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 8: more sharper in football, when I have the opportunity to

1286
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 8: go and immerse myself in other areas because I've buttoned

1287
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 8: it up, I've zeroed in what I need to do

1288
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 8: for football, how to study, do all those different things.

1289
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 8: I can go away and come back even sharper. So

1290
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 8: that works. That worked for me. Not everybody has a

1291
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 8: capacity to do that. A lot of guys can only

1292
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 8: focus on Ian. We know in the locker room, there's

1293
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 8: some guys that are on the struggle bus, and they

1294
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 8: really really got to focus in like they need all

1295
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 8: seven days, even like the last five minutes before you

1296
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 8: get into that meeting or get into that game. They

1297
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 8: still need to keep studying. Like I've had some guys like,

1298
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 8: hey man, what are we sup to doing this?

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00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 11: Play?

1300
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 8: Buddy man, we went over this fifty times. Yeah, in

1301
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 8: the meeting room, I still got you just go straight.

1302
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especial if you're playing defense, it's so reactive.

1303
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: You guys got it easy, man, It's it's really just athletics.

1304
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: We react, but I have to react to you're reacting.

1305
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: You have to look at the safeties and see with

1306
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: the linebackers. Then he says Able or Baker, I'm okay,

1307
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: he's blitzing. Is this guy going to go inside? What's happening?

1308
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 11: Now?

1309
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: It's a game you guys wouldn't understand. You might understand

1310
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: you played offensive line in the under or the uh

1311
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: All American Army game. Before that, you talked about capacity.

1312
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: I want to break that down a little bit more

1313
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: because obviously someone being able to understand themselves and understand

1314
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: what they're capable of doing and not capable of doing.

1315
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. And we've seen in the

1316
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: locker room. We see guys all the time that think

1317
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: they have all the capability in the world. But with

1318
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the film shows this is way different. So somebody who

1319
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the capacity to have the structure that

1320
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about, what are some steps that they can

1321
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: take to be successful and put themselves in a ring

1322
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: where they're now making that passive income. There's the generic

1323
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: stuff of having, you know, financial advisor and stuff like that.

1324
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: But what are little tips?

1325
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 8: I would say honestly, and it may not Capacity may

1326
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 8: be the wrong word. I think the right word is

1327
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 8: understanding how they learn. And this is where the psychology

1328
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 8: side of things comes in. And as a head coach,

1329
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 8: I learned this from Jim Calwell being a head coach

1330
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 8: and seeing him operate within three to six months to

1331
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 8: be able to take our team to where we got

1332
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 8: to in twenty fourteen. Was he had the psychology background

1333
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 8: of breaking down every single guy and learning how understand

1334
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 8: how they learn. So if you understand how you learn

1335
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 8: and how you can structure yourself, that'll allow your capacity

1336
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 8: to start to get wider and wider and wider, because

1337
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: you know, I have to do these things so I'm

1338
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 8: in order to be successful in this space, then I

1339
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 8: can start being curious in other spaces. So understanding how

1340
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 8: you learn and how you function, I think is a

1341
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 8: big part of it as well.

1342
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 5: What would you your routine be like on a Wednesday

1343
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 5: compared to a Friday while you were playing well?

1344
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 8: Early on my career or later on in my life.

1345
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 5: I would say, when you're starting to figure out your

1346
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: capacity and how you learn and everything else, like when

1347
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 5: you are operating or when I am talking to Lavontine,

1348
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, what's how Sue out in Tampa And

1349
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 5: he's like, man, he'll be on he'll be on a

1350
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 5: business call in between, like after practice, before meetings.

1351
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1352
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 8: So that was like mid mid of my middle of

1353
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 8: my career, towards towards the end. What I would say

1354
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 8: for me, if I understand your question correctly, is like,

1355
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 8: at that time, I had a routine. So I'm in

1356
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 8: the facility six am getting my workout. In most guys

1357
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 8: are working out either like right before practice or right

1358
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 8: after practice, or they do half their lift before practice

1359
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 8: and then do the legs after practice. I'm done with

1360
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 8: my workout. I got that out of the way. I

1361
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 8: tuned in for an hour and a half, two hours

1362
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 8: or whatever it was, go to practice, go through meetings.

1363
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 8: I watched my film like coaches are going to watch film,

1364
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 8: like I've already watched film. That's over and done with.

1365
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 8: So when coach knows like and coach Casey, he loves

1366
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 8: me but hates me because he's He'll be in meetings

1367
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 8: and be like, hey, man, I got to ask you

1368
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 8: a question. And I was like, Coach, I got you,

1369
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 8: but you know, man, I'm over your writing emails.

1370
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 11: Leave me the fuck home.

1371
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 5: We are established, you're already, You've done your part of

1372
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: I'm prepped. I've watched film. I know what Coach is

1373
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: gonna go over. But when we're in the position meeting itself,

1374
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 5: you got to get a few other things done because

1375
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 5: the main focus isn't like I've handled all my business.

1376
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 8: Yeah exactly. And we had that understanding with each other

1377
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,479
Speaker 8: early on to where it's like he knows I'm gonna

1378
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 8: be on point. But there's times I knew he's gonna

1379
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 8: he would say my name, like hey, pay attention real quick,

1380
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 8: give me five minutes of your time, and then we're

1381
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 8: gonna talk about this as a group. So everybody realizes

1382
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 8: you're still part of the meeting, and then you can

1383
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 8: go back to doing what you.

1384
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 11: Need to do.

1385
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 8: So you'd be sitting, Oh yeah, Casey's right here, I'm

1386
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 8: right in the back, right corner with him, Vita's up

1387
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 8: in the front, all the other dudes in front, Like,

1388
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 8: I got my laptop turned like I'm gonna go bus position.

1389
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1390
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 5: Now it sounds like it was different earlier in your career.

1391
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 5: What was there a hard conversation or a moment to

1392
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 5: where you're like, hey, I need to button my shit

1393
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 5: up or I need to I'm not taking a serious

1394
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 5: as I feel like I want to be taking this serious.

1395
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 8: So the person that kind of put me on my

1396
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 8: toes with that was Kyle Vannerbosch. So my rookie year

1397
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 8: and probably my second year being with Kyle in the

1398
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 8: same D line room, he really taught me how to

1399
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 8: take notes and be detail oriented, and so like where

1400
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 8: I'm super locked in is like those first two hours

1401
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 8: of meetings before we go to practice, when we're doing

1402
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 8: install and we're doing those different things. But I started cheating.

1403
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 8: I was like, coach, give me the install the night

1404
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 8: before so I can go through everything, and I'll come

1405
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 8: in early and ask you a couple of questions of

1406
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 8: what I didn't understand or I needed more clarification, and

1407
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 8: then I speed up the process. So now I'm understanding

1408
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 8: how I learn, how I figure out things faster so

1409
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 8: I can get it out of the way and I

1410
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 8: can be prepared. So I just go out to practice.

1411
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 8: Plus bro, we do two three different walkthroughs, like if

1412
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 8: you don't understand we're about to install walk through? What

1413
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 8: we just install? Then practice? We just went through three.

1414
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: Times to a walk through before that practice, Yeah, we just.

1415
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 8: Did it three times. If you can't pick it up

1416
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 8: in that timeframe, we've got bigger problems.

1417
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: Which I feel like rears its head a lot of

1418
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: times in the locker roos. Yes, there are a lot

1419
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: of guys that are like that.

1420
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: And when you're somebody who's on your ship, you're just like,

1421
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 5: how in the fuck is this so hard? What do

1422
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: you mean? I'm saying, like, when you when you haven't

1423
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: figured out and dialed in, and if so and so

1424
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 5: doesn't have it figured out by the second or third

1425
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 5: walk through, and you're just like, how do you not

1426
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 5: fucking get what we're doing the most simplistic things.

1427
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: Now, your rookie year is a whole different ball game,

1428
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out everything, and everything seems like

1429
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: so big once again, massive office of playbook.

1430
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 5: So where do you start to realize that you were

1431
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 5: a tackle? Bro?

1432
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah you have you.

1433
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 5: Have a second.

1434
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 11: Coming here, so yeah.

1435
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: Center like that would be it would make sense, but

1436
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 5: I knew, yeah, the double down go to the next levee.

1437
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: Double down is not a term you know, block down,

1438
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 5: double team go to the is not a term you

1439
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: don't worry about away from you, but you blocked down Taylor.

1440
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 8: He's got it easy though, because he's coming behind me. Yeah,

1441
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 8: where's the ball? He's got three cats. Figure it out.

1442
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 8: I'll go get the time I want. Took jump on

1443
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 8: a half a second, Hey man, get off of my

1444
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 8: sat Yeah.

1445
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: Talk to me about playing ball with a young, will

1446
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: confident Nebraska.

1447
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a little bit of a blur. He

1448
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 8: didn't get a lot of playing time I was there,

1449
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: but he definitely came. I will say hard worker, definitely

1450
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 8: was out there special teams, riling up the troops, running

1451
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 8: down the field full speed. But when he was playing,

1452
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 8: I'll give him credit. He was loud and and he

1453
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 8: was made himself known, which I respect. And that's what

1454
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 8: I asked from every single linebacker I played with. You

1455
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 8: have to be dominant. Even if you make the wrong call. Well,

1456
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 8: guess what, it doesn't matter what defense we're in. Just

1457
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 8: call the defense. Let's go, and we're just gonna wreck

1458
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 8: have it because I don't care what calls y'all got

1459
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 8: on offense. If I'm running up through the middle of it,

1460
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 8: you can't do anything.

1461
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you're running through the middle of a

1462
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 5: demonstrative was always like a learning curve confidence if you

1463
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 5: if you remember too, like there was there was always

1464
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 5: a dust up with a real deal Phil Dill.

1465
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh.

1466
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in the doghouse for a little bit. There

1467
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 5: was like a weird I do remember that there is

1468
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: going on. So as a freshman too, like there's a

1469
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 5: sense of like you don't you just don't have that

1470
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 5: confidence man, like you.

1471
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 8: In right, because Phil's ahead of me.

1472
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 11: We came in.

1473
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 8: This is like he's part of the call to Nebraska

1474
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 8: that came in in the last ten years. We all

1475
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 8: come together. Then there's this young group that comes behind us.

1476
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 8: Willean Fisher, Yeah, Sean Fisher, all these young guys that

1477
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 8: are coming on and they actually can play. So they're

1478
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 8: like chipping at the biting at the heels, like we're

1479
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 8: about to get on this field. Especially it's not just

1480
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 8: special teams. So also seeing that, like there's also that

1481
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 8: competition versus it saying no, this can be additive. We

1482
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 8: can come in special packages and do these different things

1483
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 8: because well could run, so he could do different ship

1484
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 8: and whatnot.

1485
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: Back in the day.

1486
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day podcast and said laughing, it's like, yeah,

1487
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: you can't forget that.

1488
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but you're right though. You're right though. And

1489
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 5: then you have that just that the competitive dynamic and

1490
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 5: again just being young, it was and you were part

1491
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 5: of We were part of such a you guys were

1492
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 5: dominated as hell and d You're looking around and you

1493
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 5: got you got Sue, you got Stein Cooler, Barry Turner, Craig,

1494
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 5: you got all these hosses. Like in the huddle. I

1495
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 5: remember one time too, like I was telling the story

1496
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: not too long ago, but that big twelve championship game,

1497
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 5: like a couple of steps I did get in. Then

1498
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 5: we had them backed up on the goal line. You

1499
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 5: were obviously trying to get we were trying to get

1500
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 5: a safety. And one time I think I called like

1501
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 5: Miami or something like that, and Sue like turns back

1502
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 5: and me. He's like, hey, I'm going the a gap

1503
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 5: you go to be and I'm just sitting like, okay,

1504
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 5: people don't know.

1505
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 8: Coach Carl was the best. Like so the year before

1506
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 8: my senior year or my last year in Nebraska, Coach

1507
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 8: Carl and I sat down in his office like for

1508
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 8: like almost two weeks He broke down every single piece

1509
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 8: of the playbook to me, and I told him, all right, coach,

1510
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 8: I know where guys fit and how things work. Now

1511
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 8: I'm gonna start cheating, like crazy cheating. He's like, all right, cool,

1512
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 8: you can do that, but I'm gonna dog cuss you

1513
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 8: out in front of everybody if you don't make a play.

1514
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 8: It's like bet that's our that was our inside rule

1515
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 8: of like, hey man, you can do whatever you want to,

1516
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 8: but if you make a mistake and you don't make

1517
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 8: a play, I'm gonna dog cuss you out in front

1518
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 8: of everybody. So I would just will take my spot,

1519
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 8: I'm taking yours, and I just be able to make plays.

1520
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 8: That's how like in the Missouri game, I got the interception.

1521
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 8: I just dropped back. I felt something, so I could

1522
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 8: just play with my instincts. But I knew I could

1523
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 8: have guys cover up for me, knowing where things were at.

1524
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 5: So was the game where the lights went out at halftime.

1525
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 5: Everybody's got their phones out. All the lights went out

1526
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 5: in the locker room at halftime. Yeah, and everybody just

1527
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: got their flashlights on their phone. As we're trying to

1528
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 5: make adjustments and get snacks and everything else. It's a

1529
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: wild game. And Sue did have a one of his

1530
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 5: how many picks did you have that year?

1531
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 8: I think I only had two that year the.

1532
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 5: Colorado game, ye a tech when Bo was losing his

1533
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 5: mind on you, saying like I get him out, Carl, I.

1534
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 11: Need him for sure.

1535
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 8: They definitely went at each other for sure, and I

1536
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 8: definitely put Carl in some bad situations because I was

1537
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 8: trying to go make plays.

1538
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: You you guys were bringing to that Bateswall Championship game

1539
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: versus Texas. That's the game. There was one second left,

1540
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: they put one second left back on the phone, put

1541
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: one second man, one second back on.

1542
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 5: What can you break that down for me a little bit?

1543
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: What happened?

1544
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it a little bit, but I want

1545
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: to hear from that back then.

1546
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 5: By the way, we were nobody knew were on our

1547
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: way out. We're gonna be out like either after that

1548
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 5: year or the next year, going to the Big ten.

1549
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 5: And we feel like there was some I personally feel

1550
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 5: like there was some illuminati higher up. We're going down.

1551
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 5: We can't let the hust ship.

1552
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was it was crazy though, because I

1553
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 8: mean I had the most excitement in that game. Again,

1554
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 8: we had everything we knew about what Texas wanted to do.

1555
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 8: Old line was dog dog water, Yeah, straight dog water,

1556
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 8: And I knew we could dominate against them. It was

1557
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 8: just a matter of us, can our offense put up

1558
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 8: some points and defense was like, man, man, we're gonna

1559
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 8: have to score ourselves a couple of times. But going

1560
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 8: back to that play, in that last second, I am

1561
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 8: like on my horse as hard and as fast as

1562
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 8: I can as Colt McCoy is rolling out and I'm

1563
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 8: trying to make sure that he is obliterated into the stands,

1564
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 8: and I think I almost hit him into bow and

1565
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 8: I know that in the back of my head the

1566
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 8: clock is like super super low. He can't just I

1567
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 8: can't let him get a clean throw off because he's

1568
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 8: gonna find somebody downfield. And I know they're trying to

1569
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 8: get this field gold and whatnot. And I turn around

1570
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 8: and I hop up and I look at the scoreboard.

1571
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 11: It's zero.

1572
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,480
Speaker 8: We are champions.

1573
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 5: We storm, We're life sprinting on the field.

1574
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 8: Everybody's elated, like crazy excitement. Then all of a sudden,

1575
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 8: Bo starts spazzing out, like what do you mean there's

1576
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 8: a second left on the clock, all these different things,

1577
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 8: and it's like all right, man, calm down. They still

1578
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 8: got to make this joint and it's like fifty yards,

1579
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 8: so like, hey man, we're going to line up and

1580
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 8: we're trying to run through these guys's faces and block

1581
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 8: this kit. But we could get there, and for whatever reason,

1582
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 8: they felt like they deserved a second on the clock.

1583
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 5: But it was what it was, weird jump me so Waley,

1584
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 5: we're jumping up and down. We win the Big twelve.

1585
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: Heartbreak hotel and you were feasting on that offensive line.

1586
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 5: Man, it was Pierre Al He's going off in the

1587
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 5: locker room after the game.

1588
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't Yeah, I can't imagine that.

1589
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 12: The other day, What is your relationship relationship like with

1590
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 12: Nebraska now, because I know when we went there before

1591
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 12: all the renovations, it was the Nanaba can sue weight

1592
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 12: room spears.

1593
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 1: How involved are you with the program?

1594
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 8: I would say, I'm not that involved. I just met

1595
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 8: Rule a couple of times. What I did appreciate he

1596
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 8: called me right when he got the job, which was

1597
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 8: super nice. We're connected because of some people in Temple

1598
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 8: and whatnot, and I think he's the right coach for

1599
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 8: the organization. I'd say this, I'd love to be more involved.

1600
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 8: I'm behind the scenes supportive of a family, especially the

1601
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 8: quarterback and dom Ryola Bey and my big brother at

1602
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 8: Nebraska or not at Thebraska in Detroit and him taking

1603
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 8: care of me there. So obviously want to see the

1604
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 8: success of his son and Dylan as well as a

1605
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 8: young one coming after him. So ultimately I think they've

1606
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 8: got the right structure. It's going to be recruiting, of course,

1607
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 8: which and I was absolutely crazy, as we all know now,

1608
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 8: so it'll be interesting. Man. I want to be able

1609
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 8: to have bragging rights. Yeah, So hopefully they can turn

1610
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 8: around the tide and see what happens. I still got

1611
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 8: the weight room. I took my kids back. I was

1612
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 8: just inducted in the Nebraska Hall of Fame, which was nice.

1613
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

1614
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 11: So we'll see.

1615
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,839
Speaker 8: We'll see how things kind of evolved now that I'm retired.

1616
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 8: But I'm more busy now than I wasn't pay Yeah,

1617
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 8: just see.

1618
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: The short time we were talking each other before we

1619
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: got on the bus. You're showing those emails and all

1620
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: that stuff, like you are are motoring what about Nebraska

1621
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: was like this I'm assuming you're a massive recruit, will

1622
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: be a four or five star guy.

1623
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 8: I was a four star guy. I was. I wasn't coin.

1624
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 8: So you talk about having to play on both offensive defense.

1625
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 8: It's crazy. I went to a US Army All American

1626
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 8: game and there was the top five defensive tackles there

1627
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 8: and I was a six. And they were like, uh,

1628
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 8: there's not really a lot of room and we have

1629
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 8: some injuries on offense.

1630
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 11: Can you go play offense? I don't care.

1631
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 8: I'll block these dudes. So I played most of the

1632
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 8: time actually during that game on the offensive line.

1633
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: So how'd you like it?

1634
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 8: It was cool. I mean I held my own.

1635
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: So do you think you could have could have made

1636
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: it if you played offensive line?

1637
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 8: Oh? No question.

1638
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 5: Really.

1639
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,440
Speaker 8: I joked all the time, especially in Tampa.

1640
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 11: Uh.

1641
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 8: And there's been some other coaches like coach Stout that's

1642
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 8: up in Philly. Hey man, when I retire, I might

1643
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 8: come come back and play offensive line. I can eat

1644
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 8: everything in the house and chill and just hold on

1645
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 8: to guys.

1646
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 5: Misconception was gonna.

1647
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 11: Sit there and hold on to so much, so much.

1648
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 5: Technique involved with the offensive line, and you're talking about

1649
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 5: nil money.

1650
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: I want to know why he went to Nebraska because

1651
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: American you're in that. Who were your top schools that

1652
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: were recruiting you the heaviest and what were you like?

1653
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Your top five?

1654
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 8: Ish my top five. I took five visits, so University

1655
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 8: of Miami, Oregon State, Mississippi State, University of cal and

1656
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 8: then there was one other. I'm drawing a blank on

1657
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 8: it right now, but I actually committed Mississippi State. My

1658
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 8: sister went to school there and there was a guy

1659
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 8: named John Blake that was there before he left and

1660
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 8: went to Nebraska Calian. So really, John Blake was the

1661
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 8: one who recruited me and got me to go to

1662
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 8: Nebraska outside of me knowing it's a great program and

1663
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 8: rich history and stuff like that. So that was the

1664
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 8: reason why I went to Nebraska because of John Blake

1665
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 8: and I could play early and we had a great

1666
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 8: recruiting class. So I wanted to be a part of

1667
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 8: some special to turn that tie. Because they had sucked

1668
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 8: for shoot, yeah for a while, almost two decades.

1669
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were a live sport for a little bit,

1670
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: had a blip. They're coming back now.

1671
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1672
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: I made the first ball games fifteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1673
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: boys are back. We're coming, We're coming.

1674
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 5: You mentioned in IL earlier. Yeah, you were somebody that

1675
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 5: was also projected first round draft pick after junior year

1676
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 5: coming back to Nebraska for your senior year.

1677
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1678
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 5: The talk to the team was it was like, you know,

1679
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 5: you said down with coach Bow and everybody else, and

1680
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 5: they talked to you into coming back. But was there

1681
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 5: any how do I say this nil money involved you

1682
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 5: coming back your senior.

1683
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 11: Year and then just asked a question.

1684
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 8: No, there wasn't, but there was a stern conversation with

1685
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,480
Speaker 8: coach Bow and coach Bow I don't remember.

1686
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 5: I got it.

1687
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 8: What was his name, lsud.

1688
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: Tackle, name of the mic up a little bit, Yeah.

1689
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 5: It's.

1690
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 8: Lsud Tackle. I'm John a blank.

1691
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 5: Uh was it Dorsey?

1692
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Glen Dorsey. So Glenn Dorsey lsud Tackle that was

1693
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 8: there with coach Bow when they won the championship. He

1694
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 8: was like, man, you're better than him. And I think

1695
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 8: he was a top five or top ten pick, and

1696
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 8: he was like, if you have the ability to stay

1697
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 8: one more year, I'm willing to bet you you'll be

1698
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 8: in the top three. So all right, cool. And I

1699
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 8: was projected I think like eighteen or nineteen and to

1700
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 8: come out in or late first round. Let's just say that.

1701
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 8: And so I said, all right, I'll come back. I

1702
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 8: don't mind. It sucks. It's two thousand and eight. The

1703
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 8: world's on the dumpster fire like nothing, specially. My dad's

1704
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,799
Speaker 8: self employed. My mom's a teacher, so she's cool and whatnot.

1705
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 8: But I'd love to come out and obviously be able

1706
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 8: to change my family from that standpoint, but I think

1707
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 8: it was one of the best decisions I've ever made

1708
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 8: from that standpoint. And so for me, one more year

1709
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 8: and I was pretty much done with school. So going

1710
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 8: into my senior year, I only had one class. I

1711
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 8: had one class in a lap, So it was like

1712
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 8: I was already pro. I just had to just chill

1713
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 8: and do it whatever I wanted from that standpoint and

1714
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 8: play football. So there was no nil money I wish

1715
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 8: there was. Was it?

1716
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 5: That hard time coach bo to compare and you're thinking

1717
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 5: eighteen or nineteen, you know what I mean. It's like

1718
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 5: eighteen and that's back you were still part of that

1719
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 5: old CBA. But that's still a shitload of money eighteen

1720
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 5: or nineteen in the first round compared to like, all right,

1721
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 5: I'll come back on another year. You think it's really

1722
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 5: gonna jump up. Yeah, obviously it works out. But it

1723
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 5: was as simple as a conversation like that. To compare

1724
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 5: you to Glenn Dorsey.

1725
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was simple.

1726
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 8: I mean like waiting one more year and I went

1727
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 8: and got alloyded in London policy. So god forbid anything

1728
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 8: crazy happened. All right, got my loading London London policy.

1729
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 8: If I got hurt, and then that was your policy.

1730
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 8: I remember it's like twenty five million.

1731
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 5: That was three.

1732
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: I was a old CBA because you know, your boy

1733
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: actually had the opportunity to leave his junior year as well.

1734
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: But my projection showing me my projection was first round

1735
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: and I decided to come back. But I was on

1736
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: the kool aid of I thought we were gonna win

1737
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: a bake Th championship. We're going six and six.

1738
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, we didn't.

1739
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 5: We didn't have the talent. We didn't have the talent

1740
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 5: to get it done.

1741
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: But I really thought in my head, yeah, because I

1742
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: wasn't a big broad thinker I was.

1743
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 5: I was.

1744
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: I was very zoomed in and I was like, bro,

1745
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,440
Speaker 1: we could win it all off my leadership.

1746
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 11: I love the confidence, dude.

1747
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: I really thought we were gonna do it man, but yeah, go,

1748
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: like there had to be a couple of games like

1749
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure, like once you make a decision, or I'm

1750
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna co back, I'm gonna take my name out of

1751
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: like the draft pool. Essentially, the fear of yeah, if

1752
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: you get hurt, you have this Lloyd's in London policy

1753
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: is gonna give you twenty five million dollars. But now

1754
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: it's like, well what about legacy? What about all these things?

1755
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: Was ever a fear of doubt going into your senior

1756
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: year now?

1757
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 8: Not really, because I mean I'd already gone through injury

1758
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 8: like two thousand and seven eight or no, two thousand

1759
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 8: and eight, going into Yeah, going into the two thousand

1760
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 8: and eight season, I tore my a CL and so

1761
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 8: I was like, worst case I get hurt again, Like

1762
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 8: I bounce back, and I had a great eight year

1763
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 8: coming off of ACL. Like Mark Meyer took great care

1764
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 8: of me, Like I got I tore my ACL. March

1765
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 8: tenth of two thousand and eight, I was back for camp,

1766
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 8: like he would only let me practice one of days.

1767
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 8: It's all right, great, that's even better. I don't have

1768
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 8: to go through two A days. And like I owe

1769
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 8: Mark so much, I still talk to him all the

1770
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 8: time just as just a close friend. But if I

1771
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 8: get hurt again, I got to go through the same

1772
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 8: process like who cares? Like so I really wasn't scared

1773
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 8: of it from that perspective, And I came off had

1774
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 8: one of my best year in college to then back

1775
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 8: it up with another great year to top that as

1776
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 8: going into the draft. So for me, the mindset was

1777
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 8: just just go out there and bawl, have fun.

1778
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: So you tore your ACL in March and we're practicing

1779
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 5: at the end of July, four months.

1780
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Like I owe a lot of credit to

1781
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 8: a lot of credit to Mark Meyer. Man. He was

1782
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 8: like one of the best, and I didn't even realize

1783
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 8: like everything that he was teaching me. He was on

1784
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 8: my butt like man, I'm gonna get you really and

1785
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 8: like I remember I think they called Russians like or

1786
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 8: like these things where he would hang my knee off

1787
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 8: the back of the table to get range of motion

1788
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 8: and I would look at him with the most meanest

1789
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 8: look like death stairs, like I want to kill you

1790
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 8: right now because it hurts, but like it got me

1791
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 8: back so fast, and like all his stuff that he

1792
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 8: had done, like is I own a lot.

1793
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: For that, and it's just like pre bfr and all those.

1794
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, yeah, you're doing it the old school, old

1795
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 8: school way.

1796
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 5: Damn.

1797
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: So that is four months is hissses me off.

1798
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 5: He was removed. I'm still hurting. I'm still not recovering.

1799
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 5: I will say whenever, whenever Taylor tore his The first

1800
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 5: time was in the middle of the season, right, it

1801
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 5: was October twenty twenty. October twenty twenty, and we we

1802
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 5: were training with Dobbs, by the way, was the best man.

1803
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 5: I remember Dobson telling Taylor. He's like, called me, was

1804
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 5: it November, December, January, like if we go to the

1805
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 5: Super Bowl or something. He's like, I'm just letting you know.

1806
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 5: Sue was able to get back in four months. Yeah,

1807
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 5: that was like Taylor's Taylor's motivator. Yeah, And I think

1808
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 5: I think month two, I was like, this is not happening.

1809
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 8: See, But a lot of people don't realize. It's like,

1810
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,440
Speaker 8: obviously got to have a good surgeon, which first and foremost,

1811
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 8: but then two the rehab, you can't be afraid to

1812
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 8: push yourself. And that's where I think a lot of

1813
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 8: people in that first like month, month and a half,

1814
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 8: they're like super scared, like timid and whatnot. Like really

1815
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 8: after you get the green light that the graft is good,

1816
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 8: like really really push, like that's how you come back.

1817
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 5: Majority of the time, it's do anything. It's everything pain free.

1818
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 8: A little pain everybody, everybody, But even a little bit

1819
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 8: of pain is okay. Like it's just like understanding your

1820
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 8: pain tolerance and what's the difference between again being hurt

1821
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 8: and injured, Like there's a big difference between that, Yeah,

1822
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 8: I have a little pain, like I'm hurt a little

1823
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 8: bit versus being actually injured and whatnot.

1824
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, the because the process of the patel A

1825
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: ten and becoming an ACL go through the cocoon process

1826
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: is metamorphous process between weeks twelve and eighteen, and that's

1827
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: when your graft is the most vulnerable and you have

1828
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: to be like really cautious in those like that six

1829
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: week period. But then after that you can you can't

1830
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: push a little bit, buddy, I was, I mean, I

1831
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: don't know how you did in four and four months.

1832
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: I literally was doing like two rehabs a day, Like

1833
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: one was more like physical, the other one was more

1834
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: like taking care of little TLC and like had it

1835
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: up like literally did not focus on anything else but

1836
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: my acl And I mean that first came back tough, slid, tough, slim.

1837
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: But so you get drafted third overall by the Lions,

1838
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: third third, second, Wow, I'm so sorry for disrespecting second

1839
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: overall by the Lions. What is your initial thought when

1840
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: you get to the lines? There's the Lions where you

1841
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: look at Now we're in twenty twenty five, like, holy shit,

1842
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: what a franchise. Campbell's got those boys going. You're a

1843
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: part of a terrible franchise at this point. And it's like,

1844
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a level of excitem because you're the

1845
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: second overall pick. Who's the first?

1846
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 8: That quarterback Oklahoma, yep, Sam Braf Sam Bradford, who I

1847
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 8: sacked by the way, hit him one.

1848
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: That I was hot.

1849
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 8: But the thing is I was told like right, maybe

1850
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 8: like two weeks before the draft, because I took a

1851
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 8: visit to Saint Louis and I just had an eerie

1852
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 8: feeling like, man, these do things aren't gonna pick me

1853
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 8: number one, and being competitive Detroit a great visit gun

1854
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 8: to kind of him loved me, uh and really kind

1855
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 8: of had the main decision making power from that standpoint,

1856
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 8: as he had, like the old statesman there. And then

1857
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 8: I went to Tampa and Tampa was like, man, we

1858
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 8: love you. We're gonna come get you. We got twelve picks.

1859
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 8: We're gonna throw the house at Detroit and come get you.

1860
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 11: I'm like perfect.

1861
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 8: They called me right before the draft and they were like,

1862
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 8: would you drop And I was like no, but you

1863
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 8: can come and get me, like we talked about, and

1864
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 8: I didn't know they knew that Detroit wasn't going to

1865
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 8: let me get past too. And then they had insight

1866
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 8: because Schwartz and all those guys with Jeff Fisher, they're

1867
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 8: all friends, so they knew they were taking Sam Bradford,

1868
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 8: so they knew they were going to be able to

1869
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 8: get me and they didn't have to do anything. So

1870
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 8: lo and behold. I get drafted by Detroit and I

1871
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 8: was actually pissed off. And it was because, like I

1872
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 8: just I was expecting Tampa to come get me, and

1873
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 8: like that's what I was told. I was with the

1874
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 8: last conversation I have with my agent. But I was like, man,

1875
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 8: you know what, let me be humble and be like

1876
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 8: everything happens for a reason. So it's like this city

1877
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 8: needs this blue collar and grinders, all about work. This

1878
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 8: is my type of people, strong black community, all these

1879
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 8: different things. And so I was like, man, let me

1880
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 8: go in here and try and like change the culture

1881
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 8: and whatnot. And so when I got in there, you

1882
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 8: see they brought in Kyle, they have Dom there, they

1883
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 8: got Matthew Stafford, they got Calvin, they got a group

1884
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 8: of guys and like, let's go, let's try and make

1885
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 8: some Hey. Yeah, my first year was tough.

1886
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 5: What was your record your first year?

1887
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 11: Six?

1888
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 8: And it sucked, but I mean I obviously had a

1889
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 8: good individual year, but I wasn't happy with that by

1890
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 8: any means. So then we turn around and have an

1891
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 8: opportunity the next year to come back. I think we're

1892
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 8: eleven and five, which was better, got to the playoffs,

1893
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 8: lost in the first round, but started to see and

1894
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 8: I think what they realized, especially from a front office perspective,

1895
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 8: we got to get rid of certain guys because they're

1896
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 8: just here collecting checks, which was which was terrible to

1897
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 8: see from that standpoint, But man, it's I just went

1898
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 8: back there and went to the facility for the first

1899
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 8: time in a decade. A little surreal, but I mean,

1900
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 8: I love that city. I'm there all the time. I

1901
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 8: do a bunch of business, got a bunch of mentors,

1902
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 8: Dan Gilbert, Gary Schiffman, Like had dinner with him the

1903
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 8: other day, Like it's I love that city.

1904
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 5: Man. What was it like when you left Detroit? Like

1905
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 5: why were they not able to keep you there and

1906
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 5: make you the you know, make you the guy for

1907
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 5: your entire career?

1908
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 8: Man, As I always say, I got kicked out. I

1909
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 8: wanted to stay there, like and I'll say this again

1910
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 8: and I said it before, Like at the end of

1911
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 8: the day, Man, they had an opportunity, They had every

1912
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 8: opportunity to keep me there if they wanted me to

1913
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 8: stay there. I gave them last minute. I remember leaving

1914
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 8: Church right during free agency in fourteen fifteen, and my

1915
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 8: agent like, you've got a great deal with Miami, Like

1916
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 8: you're gonna be highest paid, like super crazy guaranteed, and yes,

1917
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 8: Oakland is paying you are offering you a couple million

1918
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 8: dollars more. But if you look at taxes and all

1919
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 8: those different things, because I had spreadsheets like all these

1920
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 8: different things of like breaking down like all right, they

1921
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 8: played these tax free cities. They have these ones that

1922
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 8: are that are non tax free. What all the numbers

1923
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 8: would break down to I would be losing money going

1924
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 8: back to Detroit and seeing that thing being in that

1925
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 8: order because they're like their tax reks, like I think

1926
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 8: like four or five percent or whatever from a state perspective.

1927
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 8: So I said, I still love coach Calwell, and I

1928
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 8: feel like I should be in Detroit. Give them the

1929
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 8: to match, he said, he went back and they didn't

1930
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 8: want to match.

1931
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Where were they at before? How far off were they?

1932
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 8: I'll let you ask them. Okay, get Sheilahan on the

1933
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 8: busting with the boys, and you asked her, do you

1934
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 8: know the number?

1935
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 11: I know, yeah, I know the number God, And it

1936
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 11: was nowhere.

1937
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 8: It was nowhere near what I was getting.

1938
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 5: Really.

1939
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: Nowhere near.

1940
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 5: And you at this point when you respected on the way.

1941
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 8: Out, oh, no question, without a question, like think of

1942
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 8: it like this. You know, we joke all the time,

1943
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 8: but it's all out of love, no love.

1944
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 5: Clip it.

1945
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1946
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: The lines was like, oh my god, I mean, bro, how.

1947
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 5: Do they not keep you? I mean, you're you're there?

1948
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Four years?

1949
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 5: Right?

1950
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 11: Was there? Five years?

1951
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Five years? Five years of true absolute dominance?

1952
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 8: Like even like saying, are we don't really know if

1953
01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 8: we like.

1954
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice little Mike adjustment.

1955
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 8: All good, We don't even know, like, all right, he's

1956
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 8: a head case or whatever it is.

1957
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 11: Say whatever you.

1958
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 8: Want to, we'll franchise you. You gotta do it for

1959
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 8: one more year. I just had my one of my

1960
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 8: best years of my career. Yeah, I had my rookie

1961
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 8: yar had ten sacks regular season, but I had ten

1962
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 8: sacks going to the playoffs, like I had eight, all right,

1963
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 8: eight and a half, and then I got another two

1964
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 8: in the playoff game that we should have won against Dallas.

1965
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 8: So I had my best year. And you don't even

1966
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 8: consider like franchising me if you're unsure you need one

1967
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 8: more year to figure out, Oh, is he really worth

1968
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 8: us giving him a bag?

1969
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1970
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you gotta keep you gotta keep talent

1971
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: like that on your roster. No, you did have a

1972
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: couple of situations when you're in Detroit. Yeah, yeah, I've

1973
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: heard Will talk about asking you this question. I'm gonna

1974
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 1: do my best to land this plane. There's a situation

1975
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: and where a quarterback fell on the ground.

1976
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'll stop you there.

1977
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 5: Absolutely go ahead.

1978
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,879
Speaker 8: If you recall there's you've had some incidents yourself.

1979
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: I've had a couple a couple.

1980
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 8: Maybe not all of them you've been caught on. But

1981
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 8: if you remember Andre Branch, yeah, you remember the time

1982
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 8: you wanted to kill you killed me?

1983
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was in the back, when I took

1984
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: him to the back of the end zone.

1985
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 8: I'm just saying that is that there's there's been some things.

1986
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 8: We all have had mistakes, but they don't define us at.

1987
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 2: The end of the day.

1988
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that.

1989
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 8: But and going into that situation, and I remember vividly

1990
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 8: leaving the game at halftime and I'm sitting here and

1991
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 8: you can probably find this picture. I'm talking to the

1992
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 8: red and I'm like, my face is adamant. I'm saying,

1993
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 8: if you don't deal with this, dude, keep punching me

1994
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 8: in my face, play after play after play. It's a

1995
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 8: legal hands to the face. It's not legal. If you

1996
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 8: don't deal with it, I'm gonna deal with it.

1997
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: He didn't deal with it.

1998
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 11: He didn't deal with it.

1999
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 5: So when you was mushing the old linment, Okay, So

2000
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 5: then there's another one with the with Aaron Rodgers. Yea

2001
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 5: with Aaron Rodgers.

2002
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that that to me is complete bs, because if

2003
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 8: you go back and watch the play like I'm toussing

2004
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 8: like two or three aliment and I'm getting pushed back

2005
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 8: like I don't I'm not looking. I don't have eyes

2006
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 8: in the back of my head to see what he's

2007
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 8: going on and what he's doing. And I think that's

2008
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 8: why the NFL at the end of the day was like, hey, like,

2009
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 8: look like, I'm not looking at where he's at. I

2010
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 8: just got done figuring out fighting two and three of you.

2011
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 5: Damn look at you like you are in full control

2012
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 5: of your body. Show like the living room or something.

2013
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 5: You might step on one of your kids toys. You

2014
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 5: feel it, and you like stop and turn around. You

2015
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 5: felt it, and then when another one it stood there

2016
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,719
Speaker 5: and yeah, and that's so real.

2017
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: You put your foot on a lego you like get

2018
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: off of as quick as possible. You let that foot

2019
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: sit there for a minute.

2020
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 5: You let that there.

2021
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 8: Believe what you want to believe at the end of

2022
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 8: the day, and I'm not going to sit here. I

2023
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 8: got fined for it, rightfully so or not. That's for

2024
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 8: where everybody is a biased opinion or unbiased opinion.

2025
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 11: You do it.

2026
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 8: But on the day, like those things happen, Like there's

2027
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 8: times where people are really intentional, Like we've seen some

2028
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 8: stuff with some clips with some guys where like they're

2029
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 8: actually like trying to hurt.

2030
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: People from the hitting somebody on interception.

2031
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly so, but I mean exactly.

2032
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: For he was when Andre Branch wanted to kill you.

2033
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: So we played a preseason game, maybe seventeen. Yeah, seventeen.

2034
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: We're playing a preseason game, and I take like it

2035
01:32:58,439 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: is what it is. I took Audre Brand for a

2036
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: ride in the back of the en zone. We ends

2037
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: up scoring. My helmet comes off, he gets in my face.

2038
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I started laughing in his face, and then we go

2039
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: off the sideline. To me, it's like football like we

2040
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: had We had a little you know me, yes, yeah, yeah.

2041
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 8: The other one is smoke and he caught some smoke

2042
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 8: some times.

2043
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

2044
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 5: I was, you know.

2045
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I don't know if I ever

2046
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: say anything to you, but I would definitely would always

2047
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: yeah against me when you hear me talking.

2048
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 11: I'm sure I spoke a lot.

2049
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I was always talking to So I take Andre Branch

2050
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: to the to the end zone, the back of the

2051
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: end zone after a long drive.

2052
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 8: I don't know about that way I represent my dog.

2053
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 8: But listen, I got him have some good bat and

2054
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 8: he was.

2055
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: At uh he was at Jacksonville before that, right, Yeah,

2056
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: so I played him a bunch, so I kind of

2057
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: knew him. He knew me, but I took him and

2058
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So twenty eighteen happens when I get

2059
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: knocked out. He's Andre Branch is the one that knocked

2060
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: me out.

2061
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 5: That smoke, so he was this is a plan.

2062
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: This dude was the guy saying body bag.

2063
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 8: Also, I'll say this, you had there was some people

2064
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 8: at your neck, No doubt Taylor had had some bounties

2065
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,879
Speaker 8: on his head, like respectful bounties or within the line

2066
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 8: as much as you can.

2067
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 5: Taylor, was he ever popping off to you.

2068
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 8: He would chirp, but then like it's like a respectful chirt,

2069
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 8: Like I'm like, I'm not afraid of you, which I respect,

2070
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I'm not finna really try

2071
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 8: and piss you off, because I know if I piss

2072
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 8: you off, I might I have to ask some other

2073
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 8: people to get into this battle, because.

2074
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me with like a guy like Sue, if

2075
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk shit to Sue, I'm not.

2076
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't really play you. You're like a three.

2077
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: I'll hit you in a couple of doubles every once

2078
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: in a while, like a third down pound to be

2079
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,879
Speaker 1: out the nine. I'll just wide set you my basketball

2080
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: with you. I'm not letting you come down come down

2081
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: the pipe. But if I go talk to Sue, I'm

2082
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: fucking over Roger Sapple Quinn Spain.

2083
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so.

2084
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 8: We would have to story would be.

2085
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Because we didn't play You went in fifteen to Miami. Yeah,

2086
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: so fifteen we played, y'll maybe fifteen or sixteen, Yeah,

2087
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: And I had James Harrison my rookie year, and I

2088
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: was mouthing off to James Harrison, but that was a

2089
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: me and him thing. So when we go to this game,

2090
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, don't wake the sleeping giant. And it

2091
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: was essentially like the offensive would come to me and

2092
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: be like, if you speak to suit today, we're gonna

2093
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: put hands on you in the locker room. Like you don't,

2094
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: like you can say whoever you want to wear everybody else,

2095
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: but like, do not speak to suit. Right, So then

2096
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I would go to the banter with Sue like trying

2097
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: to like, you know, if I can get this guy

2098
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: to crack a smile like that, that's my fun. But

2099
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: for him, it's like, I don't have to deal with

2100
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: this sixty two snaps, maybe like three four snaps a game.

2101
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to help my boys out with.

2102
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 5: Branch hand story that's full circle.

2103
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I knew you were on the team,

2104
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: so I was good enough to have something in my head.

2105
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 8: Huh, yeah you were.

2106
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 11: You were. I mean, you definitely were.

2107
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 5: And I did say, oh, I got this guy in

2108
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 5: the open field. He doesn't even see me, and now

2109
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 5: he's asleep on the ground.

2110
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: They changed so after this game, they actually after the season,

2111
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: they changed the rule of blindside blocks.

2112
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 8: But the thing is, was it I don't know if

2113
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 8: it was. It was changed way before that. It was

2114
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 8: just only changed for probably the offense because I don't remember.

2115
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 8: Kyle Van Deenbosch, he got blindsided by a receiver coming

2116
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 8: out in like he's aimed at the quarterback inside and

2117
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 8: dude just hit him in the side of the head.

2118
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2119
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 8: Crazy, and he ended up having a bad neck because

2120
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 8: of that and went on. So that was they started

2121
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 8: protecting defense and then obviously we try to start getting

2122
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 8: back at y'all. Because of that.

2123
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 5: Teams would do that. They like Jets sweep on like

2124
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 5: a talls or something, and the receiver would just take

2125
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 5: off on the end. Bro.

2126
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 1: I hate to I hate to keep this on, but

2127
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: was there was the coaching staff and this hit on me.

2128
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was.

2129
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 8: Just like it was. I would say, Branch for sure

2130
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 8: had it out for you, because obviously you guys had history.

2131
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: Which I legit honestly, before that hit, I wouldn't even

2132
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: thinking like stuff like, oh me and this Branch do

2133
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: have any issues?

2134
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 5: That's true.

2135
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even think like I got him. I

2136
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: mean a few times, like when he's at Jacksonville, like

2137
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: I played against him well, and I would obviously talk ship,

2138
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: but in my mind, like once again, I don't feel.

2139
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 8: Like you and Jordan Phillips got into it a lot, yes,

2140
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 8: and he was on you like he was on.

2141
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: He was at Buffalo. That's why I had my mix

2142
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: up with the Bills. Remember Bill's mafia came at my

2143
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: throat because of who was the We were literally just

2144
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 1: there shacks shack gloss.

2145
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2146
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2147
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: It was like you're a stud first round pick. And

2148
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I put up his stats it was like six tackles,

2149
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, for the season, and I was like you're

2150
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: a stud. And then Phillips came at me. But the

2151
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: weird thing about Phillips, if he's really saying these things

2152
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: behind closed doors on the field, he's mister nice guy to.

2153
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 8: Me, at least not in Miami, I don't think so.

2154
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,959
Speaker 1: He probably had big Bro watching out.

2155
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 8: Yeah for sure. But I remember y'all getting into it

2156
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 8: a couple times, especially. I feel like here in Tennessee.

2157
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 5: Miami, that was the longest game of all bro I know.

2158
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 5: And so how much you.

2159
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 6: Get I have no clue you with something you were

2160
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 6: so you had, Oh not not bounties as in like paid, No,

2161
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 6: it's just pride individual.

2162
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 8: No, not hurting, like getting back at you.

2163
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I made a promise to myself too, which I will

2164
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 1: not keep.

2165
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 5: Well.

2166
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: I was like, if I ever see Andre branch I

2167
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 1: got to walk up and swing on him. No words. Really,

2168
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: I remember like after like that blindside like that, I

2169
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta go up and just swinging like that.

2170
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 8: But obviously it's the case for all the high loans.

2171
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 11: I got a lot of people to go.

2172
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Seven years now. I like it is what it is.

2173
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: It's over. But nothing pisses me off more than watching

2174
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: that back and seeing y'all, I don't know if you

2175
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: were in the clip, but being like body bag, we

2176
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: got a body back in the coach, but I don't

2177
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: even know.

2178
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 8: I don't think I was on the field for that one.

2179
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: This is this is when they're waking my ass up

2180
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: because there's a there was a Miami and Titan start fighting.

2181
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: Like I woke up, and I'm like this only time

2182
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: I see a fight, Like I get in there, I

2183
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: have to take my boys, and they're like there. They

2184
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: pulled me up and they're like, Taylor, you know you

2185
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 1: got knocked out. You're straight, And I just start crying.

2186
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know even dude, I just cried from it.

2187
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: We had the same thing happened with Jack Conker, Like yeah,

2188
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: I was like crying. Then Ben Jones are center puts

2189
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: a towel over my head after this.

2190
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, you weren't so Phillips right there.

2191
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he said, oh yeah, he said, we got his ass.

2192
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 5: Twenty fifteen, you signed the biggest deal for these defensive

2193
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 5: player in the history.

2194
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 11: YEP.

2195
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 5: Fifteen and sixteen. You have two career years, you're like

2196
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 5: top sixteen, the NFL, Top one hundred. YEAP twenty seventeen

2197
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 5: season happens, and you get released after that.

2198
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 8: Season first time ever cut my history.

2199
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 5: What happened in Miami.

2200
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 8: I would not speak of his name, but Steven Ross

2201
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 8: was put in a terrible position where he had to

2202
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 8: choose between me and the head coach, and rightfully so,

2203
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 8: and maybe not even rightfully so. At the end of

2204
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 8: the day, he had no control from my understanding, and

2205
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 8: because the person that had control was the head coach

2206
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 8: that had the ability to cut and bring players in

2207
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 8: and whatnot. It wasn't even the GM at that time,

2208
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 8: and this was like a super weird situation or whatever.

2209
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 8: So this the head coach had have been debta for

2210
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 8: me for whatever reason.

2211
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 5: Was there a moment that caused the friction.

2212
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 8: I think there was a handful of moments throughout the

2213
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 8: probably two years that I was there with him as

2214
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 8: a head coach, because Joe Philbin was the first coach

2215
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,759
Speaker 8: that I had in Miami, and then Dan Campbell was interim,

2216
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 8: which was a blast, like a great dude to play for.

2217
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 8: I got to catch up with him in Detroit recently,

2218
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 8: and then this slap Dick came in as the head

2219
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 8: coach for the last two years of my tenure in

2220
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 8: Miami and he and.

2221
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: He had roster control, and he goes up to the

2222
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: owner of the Miami Dolphins and says him or.

2223
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 5: Me basically crazy.

2224
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he tried to he got rid of Jaya

2225
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 8: ji Uh, tried to ruin his career like and out

2226
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 8: of him, like in our team meeting in like the

2227
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 8: most weirdest way, and sent him to Philly. And I

2228
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 8: think jag I end up winning championship with Philly, which

2229
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 8: was a great situation for him. But yeah, he was

2230
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 8: trying to like he had been dead as out for

2231
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 8: like guys that just didn't grovel at his feet, which

2232
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 8: was weird.

2233
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: To kiss the ring from him.

2234
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like, but what ring did you? Did you earn?

2235
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 8: I don't even know if he ever won a championship.

2236
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like his.

2237
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 8: Claim to fame was like I was a o c

2238
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 8: or like the quarterbacks coach for Peyton. Peyton didn't need you.

2239
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 8: Peyton was way good before you, Like he had Tony

2240
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 8: Dudgy Jim Calwell, like he had like real coaches that

2241
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 8: actually made him in like aka, his dad is a

2242
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 8: boss too, So like it came with the roots.

2243
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, then after that, you end up going to the

2244
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 5: Rams the rams.

2245
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, how did how.

2246
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 5: Did your contract situation work? Because you ended up representing

2247
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 5: yourself right.

2248
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was times where I represented myself and I

2249
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 8: was always involved in my contracts and I knew like

2250
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 8: so when I was trying to represent myself, it was

2251
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 8: always interesting. I needed to always kind of have like

2252
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 8: a face for me too, because gms didn't really want

2253
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 8: to talk to me, Like Jason Light was the only

2254
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 8: GM that would physically like have a real conversation when

2255
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 8: I was representing myself. So it was it was always interesting.

2256
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 8: But I really after my rookie deal and like kind

2257
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 8: of going back to the whole thing with Detroit, my

2258
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 8: rookie deal there was not what I wanted, but I said, cool,

2259
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 8: you don't want to pay me more than Matthew Stafford.

2260
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 8: From that standpoint, great, I'll earn it on the back end,

2261
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 8: and saying like, I'll show you that I'm worth more

2262
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 8: than what you're paying me, So I'll get I'll get

2263
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 8: on the back end and prove it to you. And

2264
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 8: so going back to your common of like representing yourself,

2265
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 8: I started reading contracts understanding it got with the PA,

2266
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 8: saw all the different rules, saw offset clauses and then

2267
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 8: seeing like the difference between cash over cap and all

2268
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 8: these different particular pieces. And so when I got cut,

2269
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 8: like I got to go, I chose between New Orleans LA,

2270
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 8: and I was looking at the Raiders again because I

2271
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 8: think Gruden was the head coach there at the time

2272
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 8: and whatnot. And but LA ended up being the better

2273
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 8: situation because my guy Ted Rath was there and he

2274
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 8: really was kind of the one over the hunt. And

2275
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 8: then I had a really an amazing dinner with Cronky,

2276
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 8: and Cronky and his family are amazing great people. So

2277
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 8: like it was, it was just a good situation. But

2278
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 8: I was always involved in my contracts, man, Like you

2279
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 8: got to understand the numbers. You got to understand what

2280
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 8: you're signing up for and what you're getting into and

2281
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 8: just the nuances of how you can have leverage but

2282
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 8: also have an opportunity to make the.

2283
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,480
Speaker 5: Most confidence negotiating.

2284
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, how how is that so much fun? Because how are.

2285
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 5: You prepping yourself on that? Is there something that is

2286
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 5: there questions you're asking a mentor is there a reading

2287
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 5: that you're doing?

2288
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 8: So I want to equip you for Yeah, so I

2289
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 8: I leveraged the PA a lot, and uh, he may

2290
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 8: probably not want me to say this, but Don Davis

2291
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 8: gave me a ton of information of like how to

2292
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 8: understand the deals. But then also like where previous guys

2293
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 8: are where they've had some success, were their stats, like

2294
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 8: putting these spreadsheets together and alin it and all together,

2295
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 8: putting it together. It's like you really want to go

2296
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 8: the stat piece, like we can have fun with this,

2297
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 8: and then let's go look at percentage of what it's

2298
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 8: the analytics, what's the big analytics group that was out

2299
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 8: and it's still kind of out there now pff, and

2300
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 8: like seeing like all those different things and like they're misconstrued.

2301
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 8: But also they show some pictures of like how many

2302
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 8: people that I'm double team with, Like that year that

2303
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 8: I was with me and Aaron Donald, Like I got

2304
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 8: more double teams in Aaron Donald. Like if you go

2305
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 8: back and look at the math, because that was on

2306
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 8: purpose though we put him his positions to go win

2307
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 8: one on once, Aaron Donald one on once. He's gonna

2308
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 8: win every single time, so why not take so my

2309
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 8: stats look terrible then, but then you back that up.

2310
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 8: He had his career year in sacks. Then you turn

2311
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 8: around the next year, I'm gone not as good as

2312
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,799
Speaker 8: stats for him, but still obviously a great and amazing player.

2313
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 8: Shaq Barrett, who's considered a nobody, leads the league in sacks. Yeah,

2314
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 8: there's a common de neighbor denominator there, right, Like let's

2315
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 8: let's let's put the pieces of puzzle together. So like ultimately,

2316
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 8: like when you like, when you're in those negotiations, those

2317
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 8: are the things that you have to lay out to

2318
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 8: them to say, oh, like he does have a point

2319
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 8: in some point that I can't refute.

2320
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: When when you're going through these negotiations, what do you

2321
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: think is the most uh overlook stat that these gms

2322
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 1: and teams like you brough up a great point with

2323
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: the double teams like people a lot of times, I think,

2324
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: especially just regular fans can go and google what is

2325
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: the domink ensous stats twenty eighteen. Yeah, and you just

2326
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 1: look at that, but you don't see the full picture.

2327
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: What are some things that you see gms and teams

2328
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe not evaluating and not they don't notice when it

2329
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:13,480
Speaker 1: comes to contract negotiations.

2330
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 8: Two things I would say there for you, when you

2331
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 8: were in your offensive line meetings and you're OC, did

2332
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 8: your OC ever circle me?

2333
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2334
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 8: That's one two. I would probably have to say, if

2335
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 8: you ultimately look at intangibles as that person, how do

2336
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 8: they affect the team, like in a positive manner or

2337
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 8: a negative? Are they a cancer or are they not

2338
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 8: a cancer? Do they elevate guys? Do they bring guys

2339
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 8: around them and make them better. It's another intangible that

2340
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 8: you can't really quantify, but it's very, very important, And

2341
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 8: I would always take this as the greatest compliment. Guys

2342
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 8: would hate to play against me, but would love for

2343
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 8: me to be on their team, especially once you actually

2344
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 8: got to know me and be around me, because I think,

2345
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 8: like Vita said, it like probably the best and like,

2346
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 8: I mean, we're even closer now than we were we

2347
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 8: when we played together. But when I first got to Tampa,

2348
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 8: he was like I just had Jared McCoy, super fun,

2349
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 8: loving dude. Like I got sued, now, Like how am

2350
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 8: I going to deal? Like everybody is like worst person,

2351
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 8: all these different things, and like not he's like total

2352
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 8: opposite of type of person I am.

2353
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: So do you think a lot of people you were

2354
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: more of the more misunderstood players in NFL history?

2355
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2356
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 8: For sure. But I also realized early on in my career,

2357
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 8: especially after probably like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, there's got

2358
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 8: to be a villain in the league. There's going to

2359
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 8: be the pretty boy, and then there's going to be

2360
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 8: the All Star and sometimes too. So I was a

2361
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 8: villain pretty boy probably Tom would say that, and then

2362
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 8: like the Angel and like the All World, I'd probably

2363
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 8: say for a short period of time, you got t

2364
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 8: bow And then obviously Peyton.

2365
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did play a great heel. You did play

2366
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: a fantastic heel. So you as you were kind of

2367
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: realizing and having that like, Okay, there's these kind of

2368
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: three main characters in an NFL season, and he realized

2369
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,599
Speaker 1: where you kind of line up as the villain. Did

2370
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: you find yourself pulling away from that characteristics or like

2371
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: buying more into Okay, if this is what the world

2372
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: wants to see me, as that's what I'm going to show.

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01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 8: Them, then it's interesting that you asked that question. So

2374
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 8: I think probably the best meeting that I had when

2375
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 8: I got suspended in twenty eleven, I went and Phil

2376
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 8: Knight called me into his office. I was home. He

2377
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 8: found out I was home. There's somebody who's super close

2378
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 8: between the two of us. I connected us it's funny.

2379
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 8: I just I just talked to him yesterday and he

2380
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 8: pulled me into his office and requested me to come.

2381
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 8: So I went and sat down with him. He was like, man,

2382
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 8: you may not realize it right now, but we're going

2383
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 8: to leverage this and we're going to put you in commercials.

2384
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 8: We're going to do different great things. So that's how

2385
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 8: I kind of leaned into it, and that's why I'm

2386
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 8: so loyal to the brand of Nike, because they saw

2387
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 8: something and Phil saw something in me, not only being

2388
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 8: a hometown kid, but seeing me as an individual and

2389
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 8: being able to say, we can build some special stuff

2390
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 8: around you. Uh, and that is even more special because

2391
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 8: you're on the defense side of the ball. You're not

2392
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 8: Calvin catching balls, you're not a quarterback throwing it. Like,

2393
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 8: we're going to leverage you from that standpoint, and there's

2394
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 8: going to be other things that you can do. And

2395
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 8: like they let me have so much access and different

2396
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 8: things like that, and like, I'm so happy even from

2397
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 8: Nike's perspective now, I think they're on a rocket ship,

2398
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 8: especially now with Elliott Hill at the Helm, who I

2399
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 8: interned underneath in twenty twelve.

2400
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: So oh shit, Yeah, so that's the reason why you

2401
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: didn't pick your foot up and you fell.

2402
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 5: Darann Rogers cat.

2403
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 11: I believe that.

2404
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 5: Come on, you take pride and being like, what is it?

2405
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 5: Number two? Old time in fines over t career.

2406
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 8: They went, they went to help some kids, hopefully did you.

2407
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 5: End up seeing There was an article that an elementary

2408
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 5: school did back in the early twenty ten's. His name

2409
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 5: was Alex and he the theme for the project was

2410
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 5: write a paper on your role model. His role model

2411
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 5: was you, because he wanted to prove that you're one

2412
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 5: of the most misunderstood You're the most misunderstood player in

2413
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 5: the NFL. Teacher wouldn't let him and told his mom, hey,

2414
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 5: he needs to rethink somebody else. She felt like she

2415
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 5: knew enough about you to know you shouldn't be writing

2416
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 5: on a Dominican su They go back and forth, kids up,

2417
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 5: she ends up, the teacher concedes, kid ends up writing

2418
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 5: the paper. She grades him an a and ends up apologizing,

2419
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 5: saying she had she had a misrepresentation on who you were.

2420
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 5: Did you do you remember that? Do you remember that

2421
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 5: article at all? Because the kid did a research paper

2422
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 5: and might have got connected with somebody on your side

2423
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 5: but I thought it was cool that a kid was

2424
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 5: so influenced by you and wanted to prove that, Hey,

2425
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 5: this dude, for the antics you might see, he's one

2426
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 5: of the most misunderstood guys in the NFL.

2427
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 8: No, that's super dope. I honestly don't remember. I'd love

2428
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 8: to see the article to this day for sure, and

2429
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 8: then I'd be remiss not to say this. You got

2430
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 8: to give a lot of credit to that teacher because

2431
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 8: you usually hear the opposite of the stories where this

2432
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 8: teacher puts their foot down and they end up creating something,

2433
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 8: and the friction between them and that child, and that

2434
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 8: that teacher was like, Man, I'm an adult enough to

2435
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 8: be humble enough to say this child like I was

2436
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 8: wrong and you proved me right, and I appreciate that.

2437
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 8: So you got to give that teacher kudos as well.

2438
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 5: We got about ten minutes left to I have a

2439
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 5: couple more questions for you. Would say that Ricky Henry

2440
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 5: thinks you misunderstood.

2441
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 8: Why you say, Ricky Hendrey, Yeah, Ricky had some battle,

2442
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 8: remember I remember, Ricky. Yeah, give me a little details.

2443
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 5: You dropped him. I gave nobody on the field said

2444
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 5: a word and everybody just kind of moved ten yards

2445
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 5: and we continued the scrimmage.

2446
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: We continued to give give me more, give me more context.

2447
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 5: Anybody else does more contact on what happened Ricky, who

2448
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 5: knows they were getting into a battle. Ricky could have been.

2449
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 8: So I'll explain to you this way, Taylor, Taylor, if

2450
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 8: if the reason why on.

2451
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 5: The field, I'm trying to give you up everybody.

2452
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 8: The reason why my a c O was torn. And

2453
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 8: people don't know this. I don't remember we're doing one

2454
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 8: on ones. I don't remember this guy's name. He was

2455
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 8: offensive tackle, but he was like tweeting between tackling car.

2456
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 8: He tugs on my jersey after I beat him, and

2457
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 8: that was the first time I tore.

2458
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 11: My a c O.

2459
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 8: And we always told dudes, dude, once we beat you,

2460
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 8: let us go. You know, Ricky's hard headed. Ricky don't listen.

2461
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 8: Ricky does what Ricky wants to do. So Ricky had

2462
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 8: to learn the hard way.

2463
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 5: Hey, But the difference is, Taylor, you know, any other

2464
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 5: player does it. You're getting something's happened. And now, yeah,

2465
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 5: that was you going into your senior year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

2466
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 5: no big suit. But that's what I'm saying, everybody looks like,

2467
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 5: oh fuck.

2468
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: Just laying there in the corner.

2469
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 5: Move it up ten like you know, guys. Guys might

2470
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 5: get into a scuff afterwards, both and everybody take off running.

2471
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 5: Everybody do this discipline. Something nobody said a war just

2472
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 5: kept the movie. They said nothing to suit.

2473
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, we we had a conversation though, But how was.

2474
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 5: At a spring practice? When did we go out?

2475
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 2: There?

2476
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 5: Was it last year? Some last year was him and computer.

2477
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 5: They were all ripping around enjoying spring practice. But they're

2478
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 5: doing well, they're doing well. But yeah, that memory will

2479
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 5: always be ingrained in my brain.

2480
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a core memory for you.

2481
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 5: That's a poor one because I see Sue like we weren't.

2482
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 5: We weren't like he was tyed with my boy, my

2483
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 5: roommate Zoe Whaley. But I never got the like rock

2484
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 5: with Sue. It was just always the war lore.

2485
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 11: There was no lore bro the.

2486
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 5: Absolutely we have so many like middle You.

2487
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 8: Were around all the time because you was cool, my

2488
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 8: boy harf absolutely so obviously so, but you weren't like

2489
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 8: all right, was my click, My click was me Harve,

2490
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 8: my ace. But Cody wasn't really there. Cody was there

2491
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 8: like towards that he would be in and out because

2492
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 8: he was dating oh girl, Yeah, and he was in

2493
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 8: the league, and so he would come in and out.

2494
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 8: But yeah and Zoe. So it was like mainly me

2495
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 8: and Harves. That would be obviously like we go out

2496
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 8: and have fun and whatnot, and you would be able

2497
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 8: to be around, but you could be in the mix

2498
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 8: mix because we'd also be in some places where like

2499
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 8: you know, some of the parties, like you're kind of

2500
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 8: the only white guy there.

2501
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 11: But it was it was fun, man.

2502
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: But you got token.

2503
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 5: I was talking. My boy was Zoe Fonzo, like the

2504
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 5: crew that I hung with. But I would just try

2505
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 5: and place myself in this situe. You know, I fucking

2506
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 5: around with Sue and he called me like, fuck boy,

2507
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 5: that's my guy.

2508
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: That's my guy.

2509
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 5: He like cuts me out walking past me in the

2510
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 5: hallway and I'd be walking next to to me. I beg,

2511
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 5: that's us. That's just how we operate.

2512
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: Some people going like, well's got a weird thing with

2513
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 1: eat a bullome or something. We had eight minutes hold

2514
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: on before you asked that question. I want to know

2515
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: on your board, somebody on your board invested a lot

2516
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 1: of money in Coca Cola a long time ago. Okay,

2517
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: how did you get the relationship with Warren Buffett?

2518
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 5: Uh?

2519
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 8: Easy answer and quick answer.

2520
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 11: Would be Tom Osborne.

2521
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 8: Uh So my senior year he was an honorary captain

2522
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 8: as in mister Buffett, and I was like, they wanted

2523
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 8: me to meet him, and I was like, they asked me,

2524
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 8: do you even know who he is? I was like,

2525
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 8: do I live under a rock? Of course I knew

2526
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 8: who it is. So for that season, I asked Thomas, hey,

2527
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 8: it would you introduce us? And he was like, I will,

2528
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 8: but I can't guarantee he'll meet with you.

2529
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 11: And I was like, totally cool.

2530
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 8: So uh he said yes. I got to his office

2531
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 8: two hours before the meeting time, sat there and it

2532
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 8: was like talking to my dad and we just hit

2533
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 8: it off. It took a liking to me. I always

2534
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 8: followed up to it with him. Was just at Berkshire

2535
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 8: Hathaway meeting this past May. I got to see that

2536
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 8: great announcement and I mean I even he's spent time

2537
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 8: with my wife, my boys, like he's one of the best.

2538
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 11: That's awesome.

2539
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,320
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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 5: I was doing my homework and catching up on your

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01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 5: new show, No Free Lunch, a podcast that you just

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2557
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 5: ask your guests at the end is what is the

2558
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,600
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2559
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 5: being a guest, I will ask you what's the biggest

2560
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 5: price that you paid for a breakthrough?

2561
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 8: I mean if I have to pick one. I've had

2562
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 8: been fortunate enough to have a lot of breakthroughs in

2563
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 8: life and a lot of lessons learned. But I think

2564
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 8: the biggest price to date I've had to take was

2565
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 8: losing my dad this past summer. That was, man, one

2566
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 8: of the toughest things I've ever had to deal with.

2567
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 8: And I don't want to get emotional, but yeah, I'll

2568
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 8: leave it there. It's it's still it still sucks to

2569
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 8: this day, but he's somebody that I miss talking to

2570
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 8: every single day and I learned so much from him

2571
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 8: and whatnot.

2572
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Man. It makes me emotional hearing that too,

2573
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 5: because I was reading up on the way you talk

2574
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 5: about your dad. I lost my mom a few years ago,

2575
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 5: and I feel like it's such a shitty thing that happens,

2576
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 5: but you being a father, it's like the only way

2577
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 5: you keep them alive and keep them around. I would

2578
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 5: love to say, like, yes, I would be the same

2579
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 5: intentional dad that I would be that I am right now,

2580
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 5: you know if my mom was still around. But I

2581
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 5: feel like it's made me that much more intentional about

2582
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 5: being a father because of what that person meant to you.

2583
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 8: I'll give you this short example. My dad and I

2584
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 8: were super close. We built a lot of projects together

2585
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 8: from a real estate perspective, and he was in the

2586
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 8: construction industry. He's a mechanical engineer. And there's a property

2587
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 8: and it's so weird and it's so eerie. He was like,

2588
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 8: I want us to go buy this property, and I'm like, Dad,

2589
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 8: I love you, but no, I'm busy. I'm gonna go

2590
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 8: do some other stuff. Ye he goes and buys the

2591
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 8: property without me. He buys it on contract, and like

2592
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 8: six months later he comes back and he's like, son,

2593
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 8: I bought this property, like I want to refinance it

2594
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 8: or whatever. And I was like, don't do it. Here's

2595
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 8: a cash like we'll we'll develop it later. And I'm

2596
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 8: just like, here's the money, like leave me alone, Like

2597
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 8: let's let's go work on some other stuff. That's because

2598
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 8: we're at that I think at that time we were

2599
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 8: building like fifteen apartments somewhere, a multi family. That's really

2600
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 8: my big focus at the time, and this was like

2601
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 8: a warehouse spot this today in the last six months.

2602
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 8: You probably see it on my Instagram or whatever if

2603
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 8: you follow me or whatever. And I'd go there almost

2604
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 8: five times a week with my boys, porn concrete, building stuff,

2605
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 8: using my excavator, using my skids steer, Like it is insane.

2606
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 8: And I wouldn't have had that if my dad would

2607
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 8: have brought that property. So it's like and my kids

2608
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 8: are immersed in loving doing that stuff and it's humbling,

2609
01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 8: like moving stuff, moving earth and like these different things

2610
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 8: and like so it's crazy. Like he had this crazy

2611
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 8: vision of like real estate and stuff that I missed

2612
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 8: being able to talk to him about.

2613
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 5: That's amazing, bro. That is he Also I know that

2614
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 5: there was it was you retired on July twelfth, or

2615
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 5: a year after your dad had passed, and there was

2616
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 5: a quote, I think from your dad saying like let

2617
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 5: the game of football go. Yeah, how was that conversation going?

2618
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 5: Were you like talking about juggling football? And he just

2619
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 5: kind of was like, hey, here's here's what my opinion is.

2620
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 8: So he was it's insane. He was diagnosed with prostate

2621
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 8: cancer in twenty nineteen, stage four, so he when we

2622
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 8: found that out, he was supposed to be.

2623
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 2: Maybe a year.

2624
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 8: For lucky you didn't pass until twenty twenty four, five

2625
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 8: years later. Like, it's insane from that standpoint, and so

2626
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 8: when he's asked me to retire, he's like, basically, spend

2627
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 8: time with me, Spend time with your family. Like me

2628
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 8: and my older sister were in a feud, and he's like,

2629
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 8: spend time with your older sister, like even though she

2630
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 8: was wrong, some things you were wrong and some things

2631
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 8: like bring the family back together, and like let's do that.

2632
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 8: And it's it's so that's where like it was more

2633
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 8: meaningful for me to do it that day than than

2634
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 8: anything because he'd always wanted me to retire, and I

2635
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 8: was like, I want to go chase the second ring.

2636
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 8: I want to go chase the second ring. And like

2637
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 8: I'd always sit in the back of my head like

2638
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 8: having that there with me, like, nah, I'm not I'm

2639
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 8: not going to do that. I need to go spend

2640
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 8: time with my family, my boys, my wife, and kind

2641
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 8: of go from there.

2642
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 5: I love that man. That is beautiful. You want to

2643
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,120
Speaker 5: ask him the bud like question, Yeah, I can't.

2644
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'll ask it. No, I'll ask it.

2645
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 1: So and he would people would do anything for ice, cold,

2646
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 1: bud light, anything. What is something you would do anything for?

2647
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: Can't say family, can't say family?

2648
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, be the most successful ex football player to ever.

2649
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 8: Live now, because like there's always going to be the

2650
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 8: next person that's probably most successful to me, So it's

2651
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 8: hard to say that. I mean, I believe everything happens

2652
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 8: for a reason, Like the family is really the only

2653
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 8: thing I would do anything for. To be honest with you,

2654
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 8: Like money's cool and all, but it's not the end

2655
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 8: all be all.

2656
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 5: Like what's an ambition in your like development, whatever whatever

2657
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 5: venture you're getting into. You mentioned AI earlier, But what's

2658
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 5: like a selfish ambition you would like to accomplish.

2659
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 8: A selfish ambition? I would say my friends that I'm

2660
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 8: really close to to understand the circles that I've been

2661
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 8: able to be in is afforded to them at all times,

2662
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 8: at all levels. And that's what I don't think they

2663
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:55,400
Speaker 8: understand because my mentors that the Warren buffets. I'm not

2664
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 8: going to say these other guys' names, but like I

2665
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 8: just got pressed out in the hand and it was

2666
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 8: like really rewarding and a great feeling at the same time.

2667
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 8: But it's like, stop wasting your time with some of

2668
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 8: these other stuff and like really just come work with

2669
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 8: us and like let's go build some fun stuff, like

2670
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 8: be focused and basically saying, take advantage of the access

2671
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:18,320
Speaker 8: we're giving you.

2672
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will, And I don't think we're all building

2673
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 1: a property to.

2674
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 11: Yeah we are.

2675
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I'm I'm dead ass.

2676
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 5: Hey I am dead ass. I think I can say

2677
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 5: we are dead ass.

2678
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 1: We're dead ass. We collectively, the three of us are

2679
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 1: dead ass, right, Yeah, because he.

2680
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 5: Said, he's like, please tell me you want it, And

2681
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 5: it pained me to be like, I know, we have tried.

2682
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 1: It didn't work, but buddy, we up until very recently,

2683
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: we've been very balling on a budget, like just trying

2684
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: to utilize every single extra dollar to gain more access

2685
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: to this better quality that and like you see the

2686
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 1: things along with the amazing partners we have, Like yeah,

2687
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 1: we now have the access and the funds to start

2688
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 1: like taking next steps, which is awesome, but it really

2689
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 1: is like literally the last what two weeks, three weeks

2690
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: for you and me.

2691
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:08,120
Speaker 8: Who's who's the best construction company in Tennessee right now?

2692
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 1: Construction company?

2693
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe maybe there's a partnership there.

2694
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: You know a guy named Ford Tomlin who his family

2695
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: has been in like a commercial real estate and construction

2696
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: for a long time. Success.

2697
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 8: There's a ton of Cranes. Was just driving down the street,

2698
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 8: like I saw people that.

2699
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 1: There's a guy named Tony who built five h five.

2700
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 8: That building the new stadium.

2701
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2702
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:37,800
Speaker 1: And these are all the questions like this, like when yeah,

2703
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 1: when you're like when I'm on a microphone, people are

2704
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 1: listening to us right now and you're asking this question.

2705
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm feeling dumber because I'm like, it's no, no, no, It's

2706
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 1: like a level of like that is something that you

2707
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: literally should just find out and make a relationship with.

2708
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: Like you see the Cranes, it should click in your head,

2709
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 1: like there's so much going on, I wonder how we

2710
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: could be a part of X, Y and Z.

2711
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 11: And going to do is bring me in.

2712
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be a real estate vertical for you guys.

2713
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 8: Let's go.

2714
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 5: I love that every.

2715
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,120
Speaker 1: One cheeky, bullshit, clippy question before you go. If you

2716
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:12,360
Speaker 1: could choose, if you could change, go back in time

2717
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 1: and change one thing about your NFL career, what would

2718
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: you change?

2719
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 5: Nothing?

2720
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 1: Come on, there's not one thing, one altercation, one conversation, penalty,

2721
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:24,120
Speaker 1: one play, nothing.

2722
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 8: Because it would it would I wouldn't be who I

2723
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:26,520
Speaker 8: am today if I didn't have.

2724
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: That butterflyffa guy cut your guy right now. It's a

2725
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 1: great movie, but there's not one thing.

2726
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 5: Like he he. I'll give you one.

2727
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 1: I'll give you one. I wish I had looked the

2728
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: left in twenty eighteen against the Miami Dolphins, right like,

2729
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a good one.

2730
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 5: You ever get got?

2731
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 1: I got his ass once.

2732
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 8: I've ever gotten got, I've gotten got. But you wouldn't

2733
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 8: have known that I got got hey.

2734
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 5: I got you once.

2735
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 1: Win double team took you, I took your took you

2736
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 1: back win Miami.

2737
02:05:58,040 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 11: Pull a clip up.

2738
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 1: Listen, we're having a good time here. There was a couple. Man,

2739
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: we caught you slipping.

2740
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 5: I caught that hip a little bit.

2741
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: All I'm saying everyone.

2742
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:15,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, getting my hip.

2743
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we take you about five six I mean, huh

2744
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 5: five six yards.

2745
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 8: Maybe like a yard and a half yard and a

2746
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,720
Speaker 8: come on, man, because you know I'm usually spinning out

2747
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 8: of those things once I once, once I feel that,

2748
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 8: I'm like, just go and get it out of here.

2749
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 8: I took that loss.

2750
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 1: Hit the tap. Let me get water too.

2751
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 5: You've never been like put down.

2752
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 8: I mean there's been some times where like I've jumped

2753
02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 8: up in the air and guys have like pushed me

2754
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:52,560
Speaker 8: down and got me like that, but like somebody just

2755
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 8: a main handling me. I don't I don't see that.

2756
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 1: Did you have a welcome to the NFL moment?

2757
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 8: Welcome to the NFL? I don't think so, but somebody

2758
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 8: else might you.

2759
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 5: Have an welcome to the NFL moment? The NFL had

2760
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 5: a welcome, Yeah, welcome to the Hey, we appreciate you,

2761
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 5: bro An, enlighten.

2762
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 11: Thank you.

2763
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 5: Go check out No Free Lunch, subscribe to it and

2764
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 5: don sue Kisses.

2765
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 8: Are you subscribed to No Free Lunch?

2766
02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Okay, okay, I consumed about I've consumed about four episodes.

2767
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 8: Of I Appreciate the Poor Boss.

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02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 1: I'll be subscribing. Are you subscribed, guys, Big Kisses'll see

2769
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: you next time.

2770
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Speaker 8: That was a good one. H