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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Countdown. We're setting you up for

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Speaker 1: their sports weekend and covering all the action from the

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Speaker 1: stadiums to the arenas. This is Fox Sports Countdown, rot

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Speaker 1: to MG making legendary to the Countdown starts nine live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports radio studios. Here's Brian no, Rich

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Speaker 1: Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Welcome in, Happy Saturday to

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Speaker 2: you as we get uh, get on in here, get situated.

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Speaker 2: NFL win totals are out. Very excited about that, Bright DJ,

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Speaker 2: airhorn and everything. Very excited about that. Good morning Rich,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Chared. Everything good with you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Things are good. We are rock and rolling here. It's

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Speaker 3: an Olympics time though it's taken over the television.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, people are so mad about the time.

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Speaker 5: Of the game tomorrow. We can get into it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's so funny. It's like we're getting Canada and US and.

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Speaker 4: The Olympics for a gold medal. It's like, oh, I

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Speaker 4: gotta get up early to watch it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on.

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Speaker 5: People come just at the clock a little early like

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Speaker 5: we're gonna I mean it would be fair. We're up

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Speaker 5: early every week, so I guess it's like We're used

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Speaker 5: to it, but man, like people would kill for this game,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, I gotta wake up at seven

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, you gotta get up a little bit

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Speaker 2: earlier on the West.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm actually filling in for Greg co sodamorrow, so

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Speaker 5: I'll be up at five am doing the show before

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Speaker 5: you guys come off.

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Speaker 4: So I'll be on the air for which is even

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Speaker 4: more awesome.

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Speaker 5: But even if I wasn't, I'd still like I'd still

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Speaker 5: wake up and watch the game like US Canada for

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Speaker 5: Olympic gold medal.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, And we'll come on right after

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Speaker 2: with Sunday Countdown, so be on with the Jeff Schwartz

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Speaker 2: and Bill Krackenberger. And that'd be crazy to watch a

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Speaker 2: gold medal game during the show. Yeah, you guys have

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Speaker 2: been engrossed in this stuff thus far. It seems like, right,

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Speaker 2: you've been all over Olympic hockey and beyond you've been.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the Olympic has been a big staple

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Speaker 2: in the Ordenburger household over there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been watching a lot. We've to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, though, I find myself watching curling more than

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Speaker 3: any sport I've ever watched my life. Yeah, so curling,

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Speaker 3: it appears it takes seventeen hours to resolve.

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Speaker 2: A that it really does.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: They started.

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Speaker 3: They started curling before the Olympics opening ceremonies, and I'm

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Speaker 3: fairly certain we're gonna be curling well into twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: eight because every time it's on either that or speed skating.

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Speaker 3: I watch a lot of speed skating. What is releasing

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Speaker 3: talking about curling? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Great, find there, Chris, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Chris Purfet he is that's why he's our engine

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hold on, no, it's it's from you know, remember

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Speaker 6: those this is Sports Center commercials way back?

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Speaker 4: There was one with one of the guys from Spinal Tap.

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Speaker 6: Was like talking about doing making this. They like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: for different sports, and that's the that's the final one

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Speaker 4: Like Mike to me. I don't know we're seeing the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Amazing thing about curling, guys, is there's been huge

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Speaker 3: Gentleman from Canada named Mark Kennedy actually got accused of

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Speaker 5: My god, curling's aweso so fun. Fact, when I was

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Speaker 5: And I remember like they invited us, like all right,

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Speaker 4: I bid it hard, like really hard on camera. And

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Speaker 5: Obviously put the blooper in in the in the story.

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Speaker 5: Say like traditional sport, like they're very they take it

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Speaker 5: Go face down a mountain at like ninety miles an hour.

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Speaker 4: They must have been super bored.

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Speaker 5: When they were coming up with this, because the Summer

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Speaker 4: Winter is a totally different animal.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I just feel like people

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Speaker 2: Why did they even do that? It's like, well, there's

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Speaker 2: If you if you don't know any better, you have

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure I'm missing plenty of stuff by saying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they Well, I will say this, you're if you

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Speaker 3: It is available to all of us. But yeah, like

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Speaker 3: There has been some controversy over the time of puck

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Speaker 2: So bad they can just wake up early. I don't

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Speaker 4: It's one day. Yeah, it's just it's a few hours.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing too, is I can understan complaining

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Speaker 4: No forward.

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Speaker 5: It kind of makes it kind of adds to me

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Speaker 5: particular winter summer. So I just don't get it. People

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing is there are some other events

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Speaker 2: But US versus Canada for the gold medal men's hockey,

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Speaker 2: it has been a wild ride, man, it has been crazy.

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Speaker 2: Team Canada just yesterday, right against Finland, they're down to nothing,

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Speaker 2: But they come back, they win. They set up an

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Speaker 2: it was easier for Team USA. They crushed Slovakia six

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Speaker 2: to two yesterday. But how about the overtime thriller against Sweden.

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Speaker 2: They barely survived against the Swedes where they scored in

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Speaker 2: What do you think about three on three hockey in overtime?

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Speaker 2: That's the hockey purists speaking of complaining. They love to

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Speaker 2: complain about three on three hockey and over they freaking

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Speaker 2: hate it. I get it, it's more random. I don't

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Speaker 2: like that the underdog. It's almost like all bets are

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Speaker 2: off because the underdog. It's so wide open. There's so

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Speaker 2: much space like anything, and can happen three on three

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Speaker 2: where I feel like you should bring your own advantage,

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Speaker 2: like the rule shouldn't bring you an advantage. So I

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Speaker 2: get some of the complaining, but I like it. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's just wide open and it's wild. They settle it

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Speaker 2: five minutes typically how it goes.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about the uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: But I think it offers a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: Takes away a little bit but not a lot. There's

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Speaker 5: That is such a staple of what we watch on

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Speaker 5: it was like puck drop fight like that does add

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Speaker 5: a little bit of starch to it, sure, and that

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Speaker 5: and right, Brian, like when we think about hockey like

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Speaker 5: Like I have friends that they go to the games

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Speaker 4: So I think that is the only the only I wish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally fair. I will say this too. Hit Olympic

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Speaker 2: been times where Canada has been a huge favorite. Either

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Speaker 2: they're like minus four eighty five or something insane, you know,

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Speaker 2: you have to it's like, all right, they haven't scored

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Speaker 2: Team USA? It might not be comfortable, but at least

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Speaker 2: you're getting plus money. You're not laying this fat number

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Speaker 2: you know, going this way so I think it's proven

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Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about that going into Canada

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Speaker 2: versus USA. Canada is just minus a dollar twenty. The

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Speaker 2: matched gold medal game tomorrow, very much looking forward to That.

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Speaker 4: Feels about right.

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Speaker 5: I think what you're referring to, Brian is, you know,

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Speaker 5: they don't price Olympic hockey and it happens once every

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Speaker 5: good Canada really is, you know, like they're just kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 2: on the Lions. We say go Loins before ends show.

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Speaker 2: That's right, go Loins. That's how we say goodbye. It's

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Speaker 2: And I actually think that if you're looking for a

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Speaker 2: think about that?

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Speaker 3: Man? Well to react to yours, I could definitely see it,

436
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 3: and you know, for obvious reasons. I mean, you trust

437
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: the culture, you trust the quarterback at this point, and

438
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: I think when you have a strong head coach and

439
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: you have a strong quarterback, you have a really really

440
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: good chance of having a successful season. And so I

441
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: could see, you know, catching the lines on an uptick

442
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: after a little bit of a down season is a

443
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: good way to look at them. And I think I

444
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: agree with you on the over How about the Baltimore

445
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: ravens now, I know ten and a half feels like

446
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: a lot but remember seventeen game seasons now, and also

447
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: remember eleven wins for Lamar Jackson is not too high

448
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: of a climb. Lamar Jackson has missed a regular season.

449
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: For everything you can say about the Baltimore Ravens over

450
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: the years, and look, there's plenty to say, especially since

451
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: he's taken the helm after they moved on from Flacco.

452
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: I mean, they're successful in the regular season, there's no

453
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: doubt about that. The only thing that you worry about

454
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: is health, right, you know, that's been a big issue

455
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 3: with Lamar. That's been a big issue with their roster

456
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: over the past couple of seasons here. But if we

457
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: assume health, which you kind of have to when you

458
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: go into an NFL season, if you're gonna place a

459
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: futures bet, you're not placing a future's bet thinking like, well,

460
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 3: I'm guessing there's gonna be three ACL tears in the

461
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, no, that's not how this works.

462
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: You know, you're taking a look at their roster, construction,

463
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: at their culture, at their quarterback, maybe their head coach.

464
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 3: And I do know that it's a new head coach

465
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: with Jesse Minter taking over, and I think that's gonna

466
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 3: resolve a lot because it's gonna be more of a

467
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: defensive minded approach, and that's a place where they could

468
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: really fix themselves a lot this offseason. I like the

469
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: Ravens on the over I could see them being eleven

470
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: win team or better on this upcoming twenty twenty six season.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree on Detroit.

472
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Speaker 5: I think it's hard to really have a strong opinion

473
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 5: about anything this early. I like where Brian Brian's head

474
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 5: is at because I think his process is on the

475
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 5: right track. Right now, you are trying to collect as

476
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 5: much information as possible and put some pieces together, and

477
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 5: that's again hard to do because the draft hasn't happened yet,

478
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 5: we haven't that free agency yet. I mean, these teams

479
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 5: could look completely different in a couple of weeks. And

480
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 5: speaking of that, I just finished and it's not even

481
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 5: done yet because Minnesota is not going to hire a

482
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: GM till after the draft. But all of the coaches

483
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: have been hired at the high levels for the upcoming season.

484
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: And I do a leadership grid every February ish time,

485
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 5: and it finally finished this week, right when New England

486
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 5: solidified their defensive coordinator spot and Seattle hired their offensive coordinator,

487
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: like we finally had you know, those final pieces come

488
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 5: into plays this week. It was a record year for change,

489
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 5: Brian ten new head coaches. That's up from seven last year.

490
00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 5: We had twenty one new offensive coordinators twenty one. It's

491
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 5: really wild how different every team is going to look

492
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 5: from an organizational standpoint. I mean it's it's almost like

493
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 5: every team. There's only eight teams, actually seven if you

494
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 5: count in New England R because New England technically went

495
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 5: through a defensive coordinator shift. Terrell Williams was the DC

496
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: last year, but he was out the entire year recovering

497
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 5: from prostate cancer. Zach Korr was basically the effect of

498
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: DC the entire season, and now he has the official job,

499
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: so technically that's a change, but it's kind of the same.

500
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: But regardless, only fourteen teams last year had the same

501
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 5: you know, three top tier.

502
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Speaker 4: Positions head coach o c DC.

503
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: Only eight this offseason, So a wild year for change.

504
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 5: I think if you looked at some of the teams

505
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 5: that maybe have some upside to the over I feel

506
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 5: like the AFC South is still very gettable. Like one

507
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 5: of those teams Jacksonville or Houston is gonna win ten games,

508
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 5: So I feel like probably both, but I would lean Jacksonville.

509
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: I do think there is some upside there, and I'm

510
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 5: not sure what the CJ. Stroud situation is going to

511
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 5: how that is going to develop, So I would say

512
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: the Jags might be on my short list.

513
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: I think for the.

514
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 5: Unders, I mean, the bad teams probably aren't gonna get

515
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 5: much better. Like do we see Cleveland winning seven games?

516
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 5: They have won seven games in three years? You're gonna

517
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 5: win seven games this year with an entire new coaching staff.

518
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you saw their offensive line situation.

519
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: I don't think they have an offensive lineman like sign.

520
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: It's like, it's.

521
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: Ridiculous they need five new Hey, hey, Rich, you want

522
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 5: to come out of retirement play offensive line for the Browns? Like,

523
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: good luck in that division with Pittsburgh and Baltimore and

524
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 5: Cincinnati with that defense or with that offense.

525
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: I feel like.

526
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 5: Cleveland's gonna have another bad year with Todd Monkins first

527
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 5: season as head coach.

528
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I do love how a couple of these teams are

529
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: priced because a couple of teams, the Bears and the Broncos,

530
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: that had a lot of success this past season, but

531
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: they won some wild ones. You know, the Broncos winning

532
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: all those one possession games. We often see that regress

533
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: to the me the next year. I think about the Bears.

534
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: The Bears had six come from behind wins in the

535
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: final two minutes. They had six of those things. They

536
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: pulled out some miracles. The regular season win at home

537
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: against the Packers was absurd, right where the Packers allowed

538
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: that touchdown in the back of the end zone where

539
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: it's like, what are they doing right?

540
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: It's insane.

541
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: So the Bears, they're priced at nine and a half,

542
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: which I find interesting because if you think they went

543
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: eleven and six this past year, where a lot of

544
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: things went right, and you're thinking, okay, if one of

545
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: those things is flipped, they're a ten win team, and

546
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: then you have to play this game like, all right,

547
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: we gotta flip two results now for them to be

548
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: nine to eight, and it's like you start playing that game,

549
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: it gets really interesting. And if you look at their

550
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: first play schedule, that's something you got to keep in mind.

551
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: So they get the Eagles and Jacksonville at home, and

552
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: then they're at Seattle, so that's a big step up

553
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: in weight class compared to the last play schedule that

554
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: they just got fat on this past season. So Bears,

555
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: I definitely see regression and I would play it under

556
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: nine and a half. But they make it tough enough

557
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: where they're like, are they not, you know, like a

558
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: ten and seven team that they're not? You're saying they're not.

559
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: If you're going under, I'm gonna say they're not. But

560
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: they make that difficult right for you to really be like,

561
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm not dumb. I'm not racing to the window Usain

562
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: Bolt style to bet the under, but I will be

563
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: jogging there to bet the under on the Bears. I

564
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: think there's some regression coming, Yeah, I am.

565
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: I also like the under on the Carolina Panthers, you know,

566
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: do yeah, yeah, I look, I just don't. I don't

567
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: have a ton of trust in the process, you know,

568
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of trust in the in

569
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: the quarterback. I don't have a ton of trust that

570
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: you know, even when you look around that division and

571
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: the mess that the NFCC is right now, that Carolina

572
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: is even necessarily you know, the best team are even

573
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: close to the best team in that division. I'm I

574
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: have major concerns about the way that team is built.

575
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: And it may not be Dave Canalis's fault. It may

576
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: it may honestly not even be Bryce's fault, but it

577
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: just doesn't feel like a finished product in Carolina, and

578
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: it hasn't. It hasn't for years. And you know, look,

579
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean what it takes, and this is what we

580
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: know in the NFL, and it's automatically recognizable. Right. It

581
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: either takes an extremely special head coach who just seems

582
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: to have it. I don't know what it is, but

583
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: you know what, when you see it, like Kyle Shanahan

584
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: with the San Francisco forty nine ers, he has it.

585
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: And so it doesn't really matter what quarterback they roll

586
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: out there, whether it's Jimmy Garoppolo or it's the last

587
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: pick in the NFL draft, He's gonna find a way

588
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: to win with whatever quarterback he has. He's just got it.

589
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: Sean McVay very similar feel Dan Campbell, It really does.

590
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of trust. You know. He took Jared

591
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: Goff just like Sean McVay did, and he spun off

592
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford and he built around golf and he made

593
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: a special team. Like he's a very special head coach

594
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: or conversely, it could take a very special quarterback who

595
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: has it, who can turn a program around, who can

596
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: turn a place around. And we've seen that many times

597
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: in the NFL. There's tons of examples. You know, historically,

598
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't think the Carolina Panthers have either in a vacuum.

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: Am I throwing my full support behind either their head

600
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: coach or their quarterback? They answer is no. So look,

601
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: I know that's not the only criteria that wins and

602
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: losses are based off of, and there's plenty there's plenty

603
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: of other factors. But if we're gonna take a look

604
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: this far the distance and we're just gonna think about

605
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: culture and quarterback, what teams do you really trust? I

606
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: do not trust either. When it comes to Carolina, I

607
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: just don't.

608
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: Iron he is they're one of the few teams that

609
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: actually have their entire staff coming back pretty much.

610
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

611
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's sick in a varro.

612
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 5: But that it's not exactly, you know, as important because

613
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 5: I agree with your take on the quarterback. A big

614
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: year for Bryce Young is fourth in the NFL. Obviously,

615
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 5: the rookie deal will be expiring next year. They have

616
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: the option right the club option, which goes from right,

617
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: your base salary goes for like a million dollars and

618
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden it gets to like twenty

619
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: something because of the quarterback situation. So we'll see, we'll

620
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: see what Carolina decides to do. Bryce Young will be

621
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 5: definitely competing for his job this year.

622
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: That will be a big year for him. I feel like,

623
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: if you want a.

624
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: If you want a boring like a bland white rice

625
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: and chicken over, I mean, kind of the Bills not

626
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: win eleven games this year.

627
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: I just unless chicken.

628
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's you know, it's right down in the middle. Yeah, yeah,

629
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: you know, if you get your protein, you get your carbs,

630
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: you're not gonna you know, you're not gonna post it

631
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: on Instagram and be, you know, brag about your dinner.

632
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: But the Bills should win eleven games, Like I just again,

633
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: unless Josh Allen doesn't play, Just having Josh Allen I

634
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: think is good in that division to go four and two, right,

635
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: maybe you split with New England. I don't think Miami

636
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: or the Jets are gonna take one from the Bill Miami, right,

637
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: Like this is actually this is one of my favorite

638
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: conversations to have when these win totals come out. Man,

639
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: it's it's it's always who the worst team is. Last year,

640
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: we thought it was gonna be New Orleans, right, Brian,

641
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: And it wasn't. It wasn't New Orleans.

642
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Arizona, Miami, Vegas Jets, like those are the four

643
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: bottom feeders. Of those four, I think it might. I

644
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: think they might have reversed it. I think Vegas Jets,

645
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: who are on the five and a half line, they

646
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 5: might deserve to be the caboose the zone of Miami.

647
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 5: Although I don't know what Arizona's gonna do a quarterback

648
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 5: with Kyler Murray, that's gonna be interesting situation going forward.

649
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: I think Miami's gonna cut two right, Like you're more

650
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: connected to that situation than I am. But I feel

651
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Speaker 5: like two is gone, So both Arizona Miami. It's almost

652
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Speaker 5: like the market's front running the fact that Kyler Murray

653
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Speaker 5: and Tua probably aren't going to be playing this year

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Speaker 5: and that's why they're the lowest on the totem pole.

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it makes sense. I think two was gone.

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Speaker 2: I just it doesn't seem like he's gonna be back

658
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Speaker 2: in a Dolphin's uniform. They're just gonna cut and move

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Speaker 2: them or let him go. You know, I wouldn't expect

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Speaker 2: him back. I'd be surprised if he is. I mean, really,

661
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: they've released their team, you know what I mean, Like

662
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: they've gotten rid of Tyreek Hill, gotten rid of Bradley Chubb.

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Speaker 2: You know they're they're resetting. It just doesn't scream reset

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Speaker 2: rebuild with Tuas still there. I think they're gonna move

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Speaker 2: on from him. So kind of interesting. If you go

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Speaker 2: back to Rich's take on the Panthers, a couple of

667
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: things to keep in mind. One, sometimes it's telling just

668
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Speaker 2: to see what the other teams in the division where

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Speaker 2: they're at with their season win totals. So Tampa's at

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Speaker 2: eight and five, I'm sorry, eight and a half. Both

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Speaker 2: Atlanta and the Saints are at seven and a half,

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Speaker 2: and then you get the Panthers at six and a half.

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Speaker 2: They're the low man on the totem pole. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at their schedule, they get the NFC North

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Speaker 2: top to bottom, one of the toughest divisions in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and the AFC North top to bottom, which I would

677
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Speaker 2: say is pretty challenging. In their first play schedule, they

678
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Speaker 2: get Seattle and Denver at home, they're at the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough road right there.

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Speaker 3: So and not to mention like, you know, yes, there

681
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Speaker 3: is good consistency you with the coaching staff there in

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Speaker 3: Carolina and Jared, I think that's a great point to

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Speaker 3: make when we talk about culture in the NFL. But

684
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Speaker 3: also you got to remember that's because nobody wanted any

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Speaker 3: of those assistants.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like, very at a good point.

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Speaker 3: We get all of our assistant coaches back, it's like, yeah,

688
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Speaker 3: that's because none of them we're interviewing for head coaching

689
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Speaker 3: jobs or better OC or DC jobs, Like nobody wants

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Speaker 3: what Carolina is cooking. The NFC South is not a

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Speaker 3: competitive division. And even though the Carolina Panthers had a

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Speaker 3: rare year out of the very many over the past

693
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Speaker 3: bunch that look better than usual, their usual stinks. And

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Speaker 3: so I think betting on them stinking out loud again

695
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Speaker 3: is probably a good bet. I think they're gonna go

696
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Speaker 3: through another complete turnover, head coach, quarterback, everything. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a fire sale at the end of the year,

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Speaker 3: and they're going to you know, pull the e brake

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Speaker 3: at some point of this season, and you're gonna see them,

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Speaker 3: probably before the trade deadline dumps some salary. I also,

701
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Speaker 3: and this is really quick plus money on taking over

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Speaker 3: ten and a half when San Francisco kind of feels

703
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Speaker 3: like stealing money a little bit wow, because there's conversation

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Speaker 3: about how they may find a way to acquire Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: There's conversation about, you know, this offense improving in the draft,

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe moving not moving on, so to speak,

707
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Speaker 3: but finding a replacement for George Kittle in the draft,

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Speaker 3: somebody who can step in and become a little bit

709
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Speaker 3: of a security blanket the Brock party. But again going

710
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: back to this formula I talk about when you're just

711
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Speaker 3: looking far, far far down the road at teams that

712
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Speaker 3: you like, teams that you want to bet the overrun.

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Speaker 3: Do you trust the culture? Do you trust the quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I do trust Brock Purty. I know there's still people

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Speaker 3: out there who don't. I absolutely trust Kyle Shanahan, and

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Speaker 3: I think that even with all the injuries, that defense

717
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Speaker 3: unbelievable job by Sala coming back and doing what he

718
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: was able to do with a mass unit. But they

719
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Speaker 3: are so deep and so talented I think they're going

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Speaker 3: to be an even better unit next year.

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Speaker 5: I agree, we love Rahie Morris, the defensive coordinator. Didn't

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Speaker 5: work out as a head coach. Great defensive coordinator though,

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Speaker 5: so I think that's going to be a seamless replacement.

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Speaker 5: What Rich is referring to with Carolina's coaching situation is

725
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Speaker 5: basically on line dating in a nutshell, you're swiping left

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Speaker 5: and right and you're like, man, this person looks great,

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Speaker 5: what's wrong with them? They're on online They're on an

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Speaker 5: online dating site, which means that they're they haven't had

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Speaker 5: success dating, which that's usually the toe right, and then you're.

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Speaker 4: Like, wait a minute, I'm on this ass wipe thing.

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Speaker 4: So it's like you haven't been chosen, but neither of

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Speaker 4: I what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: I think Rich's point against Carolina, Chris, you need to

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Speaker 5: record that. I think it's very well said about how

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Speaker 5: we think a team might actually dump. And if that's

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Speaker 5: the case, like Miami and Arizona are already being priced

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Speaker 5: like they are going to dump their entire rosters, Carolina

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Speaker 5: is still being priced like they might compete. So if

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Speaker 5: you can predict which team is going to be the

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Speaker 5: team that fire sales in October November. You are getting

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Speaker 5: ahead of the market. So good point there, I think

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Speaker 5: by Rich on the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Very nice. It feels good to talk about Paul.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so good.

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Speaker 1: Check this out our late flatterer.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, the platter which have one selection for you.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to our nation's capital, a rare intraconference neutral

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Speaker 5: site February game between two of the top five teams

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Speaker 5: in the country.

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Speaker 4: It is Michigan and Duke. This is going to be

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Speaker 4: a fantastic game later this afternoon in DC.

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Speaker 5: Michigan is a slight favorite, again on a neutral floor,

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Speaker 5: so you would imagine that the market thinks Michigan's a

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Speaker 5: better team. I agree with the market. I was gonna

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Speaker 5: go money line, but I'll just give you this spread

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Speaker 5: here because I think when I look at these two teams,

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Speaker 5: Michigan over the last month right in the month of February,

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Speaker 5: which is almost over. They are the number one team

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Speaker 5: according to Bart Torvick. They are also number one in WAB.

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Speaker 5: What is WAB wins above bubble. You're gonna be hearing

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Speaker 5: a lot of that term over the next month as

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Speaker 5: we get into bracketology. I think Duke is a very

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Speaker 5: talented team, but they're younger, the Stars, the Boozer kids,

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Speaker 5: they're freshmen.

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Speaker 4: Michigan is old.

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Speaker 5: They are big, they are physical, they are a problem,

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Speaker 5: and I think they beat Duke today. So I was

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Speaker 5: gonna give you a money line, but just to get

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Speaker 5: the odds up on this parlay, we'll give.

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Speaker 4: You minus two and a half Michigan over Duke today

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Speaker 4: in DC.

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Speaker 3: Okay, very cool. Here's mine usay us say you say

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Speaker 3: usay Austin Matthews anytime goal scorer tomorrow against Team Canada.

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Speaker 3: The USA teaking on Team Canada and that men's hockey final.

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Speaker 3: Here's the reason why I'm choosing Austin Matthews to score

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Speaker 3: a goal. Top line's gonna get a lot of ice time,

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Speaker 3: power play. Looks. You know that he's going to beat

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Speaker 3: the guy. He's really their top finisher. Twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season in the NHL top goal scorer.

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Speaker 3: He's a volume shooter. Two. He was in the ninety

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Speaker 3: ninth percentile in in shots on goal during that season,

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Speaker 3: and he's he's continued that that refrain all the way

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Speaker 3: through the Olympics. Look for Austin Matthews to score a

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Speaker 3: goal at some point in this final, and he's got

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Speaker 3: plus two one hundred and twenty on him. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: get some value there in a parlay that's gonna goose

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Speaker 3: your odds a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know I was thinking about going, oh

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Speaker 2: can oh man, I don't know who, and I like,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta take your heart out of it all

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Speaker 2: the time. You have to take your heart out of betting,

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Speaker 2: you know. But I will, I will go away from

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Speaker 2: that because the Canadians have looked a little iffy lately,

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Speaker 2: little iffy, So I'll still I'll steer clear of that.

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Speaker 2: Let me go with the team total. I'll go with Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Give me over seventy six and a half for the

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Speaker 2: allion I taken on UCLA on the road. Mick Cronin's

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Speaker 2: yelling at dudesla, you know, melting down I'll go with that.

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Speaker 2: You have the payout real quick, Jared.

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Speaker 4: It's about eight to one. I gotta get it up

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Speaker 4: on street. I'll get a top of next segment.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what is going on? Welcome in Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 2: We will get to one of the biggest games of

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Speaker 2: the day. And when you see this point spread, you

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Speaker 2: might say, what, But I think there are reasons for it.

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Speaker 2: we've got number four Arizona at number two Houston. And

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Speaker 2: how about the Wildcats bear down six and a half

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Speaker 2: point road underdogs. My gosh, Arizona was just undefeated not

842
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Speaker 2: that long ago. They've dropped a couple of games. Now

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Speaker 2: they're ranked number four and they're six and a half

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Speaker 2: point dogs on the road. Like that, that's a pretty

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Speaker 2: big number. But you start walking your way through this,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's all about the spot, right, No

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Speaker 2: CoA Pete For the Arizona Wildcats, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: He missed the previous game that they want against BYU,

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Speaker 2: but not having him out here is a big deal.

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Speaker 2: And I just look at the spot for Houston. They

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Speaker 2: just lost to Iowa State. They're very feisty, really tough

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Speaker 2: at home, force a lot of turnovers, Top ten nationally.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a really really tough spot for Arizona

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Speaker 2: on the road against a hungry Koog squad. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they cover six and a half, but this

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Speaker 2: has Houston written all over it for me. What are

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Speaker 2: you thinking in this one?

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Speaker 3: Rich? Yeah, I tend to agree. I really do think

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Speaker 3: that in college basketball, as we inch closer and closer

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Speaker 3: to March, home court advantage, I can't express to you

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Speaker 3: how much that means. Now a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: really interested in college basketball and they've never gone to

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Speaker 3: a college basketball game in their life, and they'll never

864
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: go to a college basketball game. And by the way,

865
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: that's fine. Up until relatively recently in my life that

866
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: was true for me too. I never really had a

867
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: college basketball team that I polled for or had specific

868
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: interest in as a kid. You know, I grew up,

869
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: you know, over by Hofstra University. At the time, they

870
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: were the Flying Dutchmen. Now they're the Pride. They had

871
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: a player called Speedy Claxton way back. I think he

872
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: played for the seventy six Yers for a minute, and

873
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: he was a really talented guy. I went to one

874
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: college basketball game in my entire life, and it was

875
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: when they were really going. Hofstra was and and you

876
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: know what, I'll be perfectly honest with you, I lost

877
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: the threat for a while, and then it came back,

878
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: you know, through my days playing in the NFL. I

879
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: started getting interested again. But I never really had a team.

880
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: You know, you can't follow Hostra. They're not even close

881
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: to in the National conversation every year. So I would just,

882
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, I would just I would just watch, and

883
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: come tournament time, I would fall in love with a

884
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: Cinderella or I'd find a blue blood to root against

885
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: or whatever it was. Well, now living in San Diego,

886
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: having an affiliation with San Diego State because I call

887
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: their football games. I'll go and I'll watch the Aztecs

888
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: on the court at Jehas Arena and when I tell

889
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: you the crowd matters when you see it on TV,

890
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: it does not translate like the impact of a good

891
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: team coming to your team's home court and seeing what

892
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: the student section does, what the flood of sound that's

893
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: hitting the court does to an opposing team when your

894
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: team gets rolling, you know, a road team has to

895
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: take a time out just to quiet down the venue.

896
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: That stuff matters. When they throw it a commercial break,

897
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: you miss a lot, you know. So I think going

898
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: on the road Arizona this close to March for Arizona,

899
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: going on the road to Houston this close to March,

900
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a tough environment on the road

901
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: for the for the Wildcats to face.

902
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why the market's done what it's done.

903
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 5: So I actually bet Houston last night at four and

904
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: a half. I was gonna give it out on the

905
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: show this morning, and now it's six and a half.

906
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 5: So you know, the best laid plans of mice and men.

907
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: I mean, you could still bet it at six and

908
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 5: a half. But you know, go ask our friend Bill Krackenberger.

909
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: You here tomorrow on countdown and you get a four

910
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: and a half in the market, and then all of

911
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 5: a sudden, you wake up and you give that thing

912
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: out at six and a half.

913
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna you're gonna lose more than you win.

914
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 5: So I think that's a bet that you just have

915
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 5: to kind of wash your hands with and hope that,

916
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: you know, hope that they may be win by five.

917
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna give it to you at six

918
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 5: and a half. In about an hour or so for

919
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: for rapid Fire, because I think that that ship has sailed.

920
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: And Dwayne Aristoti I apologize but mispronounced his name. That's

921
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: another big man for Arizona who questionable with an illness.

922
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 4: Today and he's missed the last two games.

923
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 5: So you've got a freshman forward Copeed, who's one of

924
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: the best. I mean, he's been fantastic this year thirteen

925
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: five and three. I mean that he's a freshman, a

926
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: big man, averaging you know, almost three assists on the year,

927
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: and obviously the points in the rebounds have been fantastic.

928
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: Arizona style I think doesn't fit what Houston does.

929
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: Like Houston, I think is a better version of Arizona,

930
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: a little more.

931
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 5: Experience, a little more tenured. They shoot it a little

932
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 5: bit better. I like this Houston team a lot.

933
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: Now.

934
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: They've always had these moments in March where they tripped

935
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 5: themselves up, including last year where I mean I really

936
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: thought they had a chance to be far it in

937
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: that national jam, but your game, right, they were pretty

938
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 5: damn close. Couldn't quite get over the hump. A lot

939
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: of these guys are back. And the one thing I

940
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: think that's better, not better, but there may be a

941
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 5: little more tenured, is they're a better.

942
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 4: More polished offensive team.

943
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 5: Like the knock On Houghson's always been really gritty, really big,

944
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: defensive genius, but not a great shooting team.

945
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: Well, they've got some really good shooters this year.

946
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 5: I think Sharp is, you know, one of the best

947
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 5: three point shooters in the country at almost forty percent.

948
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 5: And then they've got Kingston Flemings, a freshman. We'll see

949
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 5: how he handles the moment when we get to those

950
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 5: bigger games. But also they're really big in the middle,

951
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: and tugler Is is a beast.

952
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: He's got a ton of experience.

953
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 5: And then they've got this freshman, big Chris Senak, who's

954
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 5: another guy that you got to look out for. So

955
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 5: Houston I think is the side tonight Brian. But now

956
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: We're in that point where at six and a half,

957
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 5: I'm just not gonna I'm not gonna beat my chest

958
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: and say go bet the kooks.

959
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 2: I know it, I know it's it's starting to grow

960
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: so much where you're like, oh gosh, you know. But

961
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: the thing is, agame I just go back to the

962
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: spot when you are facing a Houston defense, right and

963
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna be even feistier at home off of a loss,

964
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: tough loss on the road against Iowa State, and you

965
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: don't have Coo Pete, You don't have a couple of guys.

966
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: Those are rotation guys. Those are big contributors. Copete is

967
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: a big contributor. So not only do you not have him,

968
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: it shrinks your whole rotation. And you talk about wearing

969
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: down in the second half, and Houston just leans on you.

970
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: Man.

971
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: They force turnovers, they frustrate you, and they tire you out.

972
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: You know, they play a very suffocating, tiring style of basketball.

973
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: And when you don't have your full complement of rotational guys,

974
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: that is a tough ask. And so yeah, I'm on Houston.

975
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: But like Jared said, with this number growing and growing,

976
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, Like maybe you wait for an

977
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: in game opportunity. But I just can't lay six and

978
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: a half after I could have got it at a

979
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: better number, Like you're gonna lose long run, long term,

980
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: you know, like over the long haul. If you keep

981
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: doing that, you might get luck out here and there,

982
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: but over the long haul, it's just a bad process.

983
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: So you just missed it. You know, you miss the

984
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: number if you're trying to get Houston. So if you're

985
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: still Houston, I would wait in game. I wouldn't just

986
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: lay the extra wood right there.

987
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say one of the things

988
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: that I give you, Brian, and you Jared a ton

989
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: of credit on a lot of the times when we're

990
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: talking about games in our tech thread that you guys

991
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: were interested in leading up to tip off or kickoff

992
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: and you just were tap it on because the number

993
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: changed and you didn't like it going in, You guys

994
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 3: will pay attention and come halftime. You know, you see

995
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: twenty minutes of college basketball, you can learn a lot.

996
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: You see thirty minutes of an NFL half, you can

997
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: learn a lot, and so you can make some really

998
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: good in game bets based on the flow. You know,

999
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: sometimes it is the opposite of what you thought, and

1000
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: you can capitalize. Sometimes it's exactly what you thought, you

1001
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: can still capitalize. So even though the numbers changed and

1002
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: you fell in love at four and a half and

1003
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: it's moved to six and a half, all right, you

1004
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: know what? So what now? What? Now? Watch the game

1005
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: and if expectations aren't matching what you thought, you have

1006
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: an opportunity. Or if they are, you still have an

1007
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: opportunit you need with some in game betting and then

1008
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: the availability to do so from your sofa. You don't

1009
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: have to run to a window in Vegas anymore. It

1010
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: makes it. It makes the access gives you that opportunity. Yeah.

1011
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And what Rich is referring to, I think is

1012
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: the most difficult part about gambling. Like Brian just said it,

1013
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: the spot's staring you're right in the face. Like it

1014
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 5: doesn't take a rocket scientist to say this is a

1015
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: great spot for Houston, Like great spot. Also, by the way,

1016
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: they haven't played since last week, whereas Arizona's coming off

1017
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: a game against BYU, who's a running gun team on Wednesday,

1018
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: Houston hasn't played in six days since last Saturday. So

1019
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: I think, or excuse me, since Monday, so it's been

1020
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: five days since they played, so they have two extra

1021
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: days of for us. So again, the spot screams Houston.

1022
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: Everyone knows it, so the market's going to react. The

1023
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: hardest thing to do as a gambler is to understand, Okay,

1024
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 5: the market has baked in the spot. The spot is

1025
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 5: now accounted for with the spread, so you're not getting

1026
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 5: any value.

1027
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: Does that mean Houston can't win by forty No, they

1028
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: of course they can.

1029
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: And as Brian said, you might get lucky from time

1030
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 5: to time and win one of those bets that move

1031
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: significantly based off of the information that is readily available

1032
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 5: to you. But over the long haul, and it is

1033
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: very hard for the average person to zoom out from

1034
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 5: this one individual wager and say, well, over a thousand

1035
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 5: of these wagers, I'm gonna lose probably more than five

1036
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 5: hundred and be down on my bankroll. So that is

1037
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 5: the hardest thing to do. And we do this every

1038
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: single week, you know how many times I may and

1039
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 5: I always do this Friday night. We've done the show

1040
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 5: four years Friday, every Friday night for the last four years.

1041
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 5: I'll write plays down on my spreadsheet that I want

1042
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: to give out on the show, and I would say

1043
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 5: more often than not, when I wake up on Saturday morning,

1044
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: I can't give them out because they've moved so much

1045
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 5: that it's just all right, I got to pivot to

1046
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 5: something else, I know. And I think that's the hardest

1047
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 5: thing to do as a gambler, is to have an

1048
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 5: opinion about something and not make the bet because the

1049
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 5: number moved, not because your opinion has changed because the

1050
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: number has moved, but if the number moves, you also

1051
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 5: need to move your opinion based off of that number.

1052
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 5: And again, that is a very hard concept for an

1053
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 5: average sports fan to understand because they're just like, eh,

1054
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna.

1055
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: Bet Houston because I like Houston today.

1056
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: And I understand that was me about like fifteen years

1057
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 5: ago when I was very young and stupid doing this.

1058
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 4: I still have my moments.

1059
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: But you just have to reframe your opinion based on

1060
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 5: how the number moves.

1061
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: No doubt you have to. And it's hard. Yeah, you

1062
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: could sit here today and be like, I love Houston

1063
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: for all the reasons we've laid out. The spot favors them.

1064
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: Arizona's banged up, They're missing one of their key guys

1065
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: in Coopete like Houston is just gonna lean on them,

1066
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 2: you know, and tire them out. It screams Houston. It's

1067
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: really hard not to just roll with Houston and say,

1068
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: you know what, it's two extra points might not make

1069
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: a big difference whatsoever. It could make the ultimate difference.

1070
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: I think you're better off. Hey, maybe Arizona comes out

1071
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: and they play a good first half and you can

1072
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: get Houston at let's say minus three and a half

1073
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: for the game at halftime. It's better to roll the

1074
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: dice and say, maybe that opportunity presents itself compared to

1075
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: you know, I just don't want to lay the extra wood.

1076
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: I would rather just wait and hopefully an opportunity will

1077
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: present itself to back Houston at a better number. But

1078
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: I just don't want to lay extra points like that

1079
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: when you could have been ahead of it. And if

1080
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: you just missed the bus, you know, it's like, all right,

1081
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: you missed the bus. It's time for plan B. You know,

1082
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: it's catch the bus, catch another bus, or you know,

1083
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: how about good?

1084
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: How about a good four minutes?

1085
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: You don't mean to wait till halftime, that's right, every

1086
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: four minutes, keep you time out. Maybe Arizona hits two

1087
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: threes right out of the gate, and it's all of

1088
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: a sudden four and a half.

1089
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: You know, I was watching the Blazers last night because

1090
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm an NBA junkie, and they got out to a

1091
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: ten two start. They're beating the Denver Nuggets ten to two.

1092
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: They lost by fifty four points.

1093
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1094
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, Jared. It could be

1095
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: the first two minutes, could be the four minutes. Arizona

1096
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: just comes out and they bang a couple of threat

1097
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, You're like, wow that that

1098
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: in game line changes all throughout the game. Yeah, you

1099
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: could just wait for the first four minutes. Maybe Arizona

1100
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: gets off to a hot start and you can get

1101
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: Houston at a better number. If that's the side you like,

1102
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: I would wait wait till the in game.

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. And for the college basketball junkie, for for the

1104
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: watcher who's not necessarily in this one on on the

1105
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: spread or they're they're they're not looking at the total

1106
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: and you're just looking at the game. If you need

1107
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: any ramp up to this one. They both have the

1108
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: same record in conference. This is a huge game. It

1109
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: is an awesome road environment, to play for, play against.

1110
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: If you're you know, an Arizona fan, and really I

1111
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: think this game comes down to the first eight minutes.

1112
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean, does Arizona have the ability to score at

1113
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: the rim against this clamp down Houston defense. I think

1114
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: offensive rebounds and seconds chance scoring for for Arizona is

1115
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 3: going to be enormous in this game. And then three

1116
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: point volume and quantity. You know, if you have you know,

1117
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: sharp and Flemings versus Arizona's perimeter defense able to penetrate

1118
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: and create opportunities for each other, you may have a

1119
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: game where Houston, Houston can find an edge. Like Jared said,

1120
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: all takes this couple three pointers early in this game

1121
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: to get the points spread to the number you wanted.

1122
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 3: And you know that may be one of the techniques

1123
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: they try. Hey, let's try to hurt them on the perimeter,

1124
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: spread their defense out a little bit, make room in

1125
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: the paint for us to score easier as the game progresses.

1126
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: That is a strategy that college basketball coaches employ all

1127
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: the time. We're going to make sure that they respect

1128
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: us at the three point line. This way, it gives

1129
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: our movement offense on the half court opportunities in the

1130
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: paint to score. So I really I think this is

1131
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: just a fun matchup. So even if the lines scared

1132
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: you away from the window or from the app and

1133
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: you just want to turn on good college basketball as

1134
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: a preview to what we're gonna be looking at in March,

1135
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a good game to watch.

1136
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

1137
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 5: You know what the funny thing is too, your strategy

1138
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: about the three point line, and it is like when

1139
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: we talk about college basketball, and we're gonna talk about

1140
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 5: it a lot over the next month. I mean, it's

1141
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 5: about to get really spicy. Live by the three, died

1142
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 5: by the three is so important, and that's where the

1143
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 5: upsets come in. These teams get hot from three. The

1144
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 5: irony is Arizona just refuses to take three. So there

1145
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: is a metric on Ken Palm site called Style Components,

1146
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 5: and it is a three point attempt to field goal

1147
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 5: attempt ratio. So essentially, what it's saying is how many

1148
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: of your total field goal attempts are from three? And

1149
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 5: the reason that I love analyzing this metric is because

1150
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 5: when you look at the mid majors and you see

1151
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 5: a team that has a very high three point attempt ratio, well,

1152
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 5: those teams are very dangerous in March because those teams

1153
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: take a lot of threes. That doesn't mean they're gonna

1154
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 5: make a lot of threes, but they attempt a lot

1155
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 5: of threes. Arizona, out of three hundred and I think

1156
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: sixty six Division One teams, is three sixty two in

1157
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: three point attempt ratio. Only twenty six percent of their

1158
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: field goal attempts are from deep. So, while rich is correct,

1159
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 5: the way to mitigate Houston's size and explosiveness at the

1160
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 5: rim is to take threes. Arizona refuses to take threes

1161
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 5: at least that's what they have done in prior games.

1162
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they change their strategy here and with Cooped Auten,

1163
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: with another big man with an illness. Maybe Tommy Lloyd says,

1164
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: we got to jack up the three ball tonight, and

1165
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 5: you see Jayden Bradley, you see Brayden Berry's who's a freshman.

1166
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: Maybe they take a little bit more than typical from

1167
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 5: the outside. The point Brian made about live betting, so

1168
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: I had a pro gambler asked me once I was

1169
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 5: doing a show, and he said, Jared, at on average,

1170
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 5: if you had to estimate how many of your bets

1171
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 5: on a daily basis are live bets compared to pre

1172
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 5: flop like before the game, And I.

1173
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: Said, now, that's probably about fifty.

1174
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 5: Maybe it's like sixty forty seventy thirty pre flop where

1175
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 5: I do a lot of research before the game, I

1176
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: lock my bets in, I go do my workout, I

1177
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 5: go do my day, and then I come back and

1178
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: I watch the games. I see how they play out,

1179
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 5: and he's like, you need to flip that. Like the

1180
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: best most successful gamblers, especially basketball, especially sports that have

1181
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 5: a lot of scoring, The best gamblers are the ones

1182
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: that are willing to get involved during the game. That

1183
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: is where the money is really made. And if you

1184
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 5: see a lot of the trends in sports betting right now,

1185
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 5: a significant increase over the last few years in live betting.

1186
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: So I challenge all of you out there.

1187
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: If you're trying to predict what's gonna happen before the game,

1188
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 5: very hard to do, whereas if you're watching the game

1189
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 5: and you absorb a little bit of it, it actually

1190
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: does come naturally in the flow of it. So I've

1191
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 5: challenged myself, Brian, to flip that ratio over the last

1192
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 5: year or so where I'm doing more live betting than

1193
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: I am pre flop. It's hard, but I think it

1194
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 5: is beneficial in the long run.

1195
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. And how about this, the top four

1196
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: teams in the AP poll all facing each other on

1197
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: the same day.

1198
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

1199
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: You get Arizona Houston. You also get Michigan Duke. It's

1200
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: just the third time this has ever happened in the

1201
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: regular season. How about that.

1202
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: Wow?

1203
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: Think about how many years we've had men's college basketball.

1204
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: This is the third time it's ever happened. Well, all

1205
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: four of the top teams are facing each other, so

1206
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: it's a special day act accordingly. You know, we've got

1207
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1208
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,200
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Speaker 1: Follow the money real good one.

1231
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: All right, We welcome in our main man, Seamous McGee,

1232
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: team lead of Sports Trading at BETMGM. Good morning to you,

1233
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: Seamus Hope all as well. So we got the top

1234
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: four teams in college basketball all facing each other. It's

1235
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: only the third time it's ever happened in the regular

1236
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: season in men's college hoops. You have a side or

1237
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: a total in either of these two games that you're

1238
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: eyeing the most.

1239
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 8: Hey, guy's good to be back. It's it's tough.

1240
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 7: I think these lines are pretty efficient to pretty liquid.

1241
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 7: If I had to pick a side at any of these,

1242
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 7: I think they're like Michigan laying two and a half

1243
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 7: in DC against Duke that you know, other game.

1244
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 8: It's really tough.

1245
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 7: I'm not sure Houston started to peak at the right time, though, so.

1246
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 8: I lean their sharps are definitely on the Cougars today.

1247
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw that line.

1248
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 5: I mean I got in at four and a half

1249
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 5: last night on Houston and it is exploded today, I think.

1250
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 5: And we were having this debate earlier, Seamus, and you

1251
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 5: can you can obviously be a voice of reason for us,

1252
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 5: like you get this this immediate reaction to something overnight

1253
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 5: and then you wake up in the morning and you're like, man,

1254
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: I just can't bet Houston anymore. Like how often that not?

1255
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: Did those games land in that middle area where you

1256
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 5: get a four and a half and five and six

1257
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 5: are pretty common landing numbers in basketball, but It's just

1258
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 5: you have to show discipline in these spots because when

1259
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 5: a game moves two points and you know, I'm not

1260
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 5: saying odds are it's going to land in that spot,

1261
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: but it happens more often than you think.

1262
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 8: Here's the thing with college basketball.

1263
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 7: These lines move like crazy, especially before March typically right now.

1264
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 7: And when you see a line move like that, I

1265
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: mean it's up to everyone.

1266
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 8: Like you could see minus five and a half.

1267
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 7: You can have it lined it minus seven and a

1268
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 7: half if you're early that high on Houston. But at

1269
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 7: the same time, you have to go both ways.

1270
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 8: Is it too many points? To what number makes you

1271
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 8: want to bet Arizona?

1272
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 7: Now it all comes down to your you know, your

1273
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 7: preference to the team. Where do you think the markets

1274
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 7: moved too much? Yeah, it's it's interesting because you know

1275
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 7: five is tough. You see so many games just land five.

1276
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 7: I mean, there's no key numbers compared to like something

1277
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 7: like football here, but it is a tough one. It's

1278
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 7: a very interesting move for a top four game.

1279
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: You have no question about it. You know, Houston, Arizona, Michigan,

1280
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: all teams that we're going to talk about on the show.

1281
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: For obvious reasons all teams to have a great chance

1282
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: at winning a national championship. But here on sort of

1283
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: the doorstep of March, what team or teams do you

1284
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: think have a good betting value to take a look

1285
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: at the win a national championship. At this point, jamis.

1286
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 7: Win the championship. I really am starting to buy back.

1287
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 8: In on Florida.

1288
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 7: You know, the people were kind of talking about them.

1289
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Speaker 7: You know, is this the same Florida team we saw

1290
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 7: last year with the way they started, but they were

1291
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 7: really starting to, you know, come back into form. I

1292
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 7: still think there's some value here. Illinois is another team

1293
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 7: I really like. I've liked Illinois all year. They're starting

1294
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: to come into form. I think that numbers I have

1295
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 7: it around ten to one. Honestly from my perspective, you

1296
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 7: can still get a thirteen to one out there, but

1297
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 7: it is tough because you know, in terms of out

1298
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 7: for winning the whole thing, I really think there's only

1299
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 7: about five or six schools you're gonna have a shot,

1300
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 7: and you could really narrow that down to three.

1301
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: Really if you want to wow interesting, you whittle it

1302
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: down that much good stuff? How about you at bet MGM,

1303
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: is there any team or a couple of teams that

1304
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: if you could, you know, throw a dart at the

1305
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: dart board and eliminate them, who would you want to

1306
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: eliminate that is, you know, causing you the most risk.

1307
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: At this point, it's pretty tough.

1308
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 7: Our book actually looks fairly decent right now. We had

1309
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 7: a big liability on Kansas early in the season with

1310
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 7: the Peterson hype and whatnot. Betters have started to cool

1311
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 7: off on there. But I tell you one team, Arizona

1312
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 7: has just been getting hit all year, especially with their

1313
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 7: big undefeated run.

1314
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 8: Michigan.

1315
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 7: I go in here every year, I feel like and

1316
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 7: I talk about how much they love their hometown team.

1317
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 7: So come March, I feel like that number would only

1318
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 7: get bigger to Houston starting to creep up.

1319
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 8: The liability, it's pretty small. I could see them actually being.

1320
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 7: A winner for the book when we actually get to

1321
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 7: March badness. But I think Arizona and Michigan, if we

1322
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 7: can get away with one of those two teams not

1323
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 7: lifting the trophy come end of the year, we'll be fine.

1324
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 7: Duke is a winner for the book right now, but

1325
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens when the all the real money

1326
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 7: starts flowing.

1327
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 8: In after selection Sunday, Man.

1328
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what Michigan looks like a problem.

1329
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: I mean those big men though that that Michigan looks

1330
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 5: like a team that is going to be very, very

1331
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 5: tough to beat. I love Cado, the point guard, ton

1332
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 5: of experience at UNC, you know, in the tournament. I

1333
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: think if I had to pick a winner right now

1334
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 5: in the NC DOUBLEA, I think it'd be Michigan.

1335
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 4: But obviously that that opinion can change.

1336
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 5: All Right, we have a pretty big hockey game coming

1337
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 5: up in about you know, less than twenty four hours, Seamus.

1338
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: Have you seen the Olympic gold medal handle peak yet

1339
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 5: for US and Canada or do you think it's going

1340
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 5: to happen in you know, in the next twenty four

1341
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 5: hours or.

1342
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 7: So, twenty four hours. I'd say there were some people

1343
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 7: looking at some opening lines because there was fairly some

1344
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 7: disagreements there across the market. You know, there was a

1345
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 7: minus one oh five and his highest plus one oh

1346
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 7: five on USA. In this game, I think we'll see

1347
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 7: it come down to, you know, probably today and if

1348
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 7: anyone's early enough, early up early enough in the morning

1349
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 7: to get in there. But it's I actually think we'll

1350
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 7: have a pretty decently split scandal on this game. Because

1351
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 7: our labels in on in Canada, they love to back

1352
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 7: the Canadians in the US.

1353
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 8: You know that goes without question here.

1354
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 7: So it's going to be interesting to see any whether

1355
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 7: this line moves one way or another and be who

1356
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 7: turns up the most for their home country.

1357
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 4: Really yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it.

1358
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: Speaking of hockey, I mean a lot of hockey fans

1359
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: obviously turn on the Olympics, but there's a lot of

1360
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: people who are just excited, like you said, supporting the

1361
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: boys in the Red, white and blue. So for the

1362
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: novice hockey fan and certainly the Novice hockey better, are

1363
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: there any fun props or good value props to get

1364
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: in on as you're watching the action if you wake

1365
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: up early enough tomorrow morning.

1366
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 7: So yeah, we'll have a bunch of goalscorer props, some

1367
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 7: other interesting ones, maybe some head to head and stuff,

1368
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 7: But definitely I look at value for the goal scoring props,

1369
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 7: preferably on guys like in the bottom six forwards like

1370
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 7: you look at the USA. Dylan Warkins had a couple

1371
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 7: of goals this year. Tage Thompson has been playing really

1372
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 7: well for the US Jack Hughes has been getting.

1373
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 8: Botbed six mens. He had two yesterday.

1374
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 7: So I think with those, you know, you look at

1375
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 7: the top of the board, you have your Matthews, you

1376
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 7: have your McDavid, you have your McKinnon's up there.

1377
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 8: But I think if you.

1378
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 7: Look lower down the list, there might be some value

1379
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 7: in some of the players getting least minutes.

1380
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: Look at you breaking it down, Seamus. I'm impressed, very

1381
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: good breakdown right there.

1382
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 7: I'm a huge hockey fan. I have waited for this

1383
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 7: NHL Best on Best Olympics for a while now. It's

1384
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 7: been a while since we've got it. And the fact

1385
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 7: for getting USA Canada for a gold medal with Best

1386
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 7: on Best.

1387
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Speaker 8: You can't put it into words how.

1388
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 7: Much this means to the game of hockey. It's it's

1389
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 7: probably most anticipated games since you know, a couple of

1390
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 7: game sevens ago between the Oilers and the Panthers.

1391
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: About the start down, it's just the same. You're gonna

1392
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: miss the first two periods because you're sleeping.

1393
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 8: It's a huge me I'm up at seven in the morning.

1394
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 8: Ye do that was made for this? This is life

1395
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 8: work here? Eight am?

1396
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1397
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1398
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: Man.

1399
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: All right, Well take us to the Seamous special. What

1400
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: do you have for us this week?

1401
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 7: Seamus loaded slate of college hoops today, guys, some really

1402
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 7: good big games. We have obviously the top four games

1403
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 7: that we mentioned before, but we have a couple of

1404
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 7: big bubble games like Kentucky Auburn. Auburn really needs a

1405
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 7: win to get back onto the bubble.

1406
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 8: There they lost.

1407
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 7: Five straight Missouri Arkansas. It's a huge game from a

1408
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 7: zoo as they look to get into the bubble. Nobody

1409
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 7: ucon as we look, we're like a battle the top

1410
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 7: of the Big East.

1411
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 8: But we're not going there, guys. We go We go

1412
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 8: to the NEEC for.

1413
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 7: A long time favorite of this program.

1414
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 8: L i U.

1415
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 7: We're going Finns up l i U minus three and

1416
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 7: a half at mercy Hurst.

1417
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, oh man, wow lu mercy Hurst. That is

1418
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:53,919
Speaker 3: a deep cut Seamus.

1419
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: That is it's beautiful, always awesome, Seamous good stuff, Buddy,

1420
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: enjoy the hockey tomorrow.

1421
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: We'll soon.

1422
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 8: Thanks, guys, have a good one you too.

1423
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: There.

1424
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at BEDMGM.

1425
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: Great stuff. You know this is a random note, but

1426
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to throw it your way, did you guys

1427
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 2: see this. It's a couple of days ago, this thing

1428
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: with Fernando Mendoza probably gonna be the number one overall

1429
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: pick in the NFL draft. And he said that he

1430
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: was calling Kirby Smart at Georgia prior to last season

1431
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: and he was going to commit to Georgia, he was

1432
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: going to transfer to Uga and the call didn't go through,

1433
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 2: and he's like, let me rethink this, and then you

1434
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: know how everything unfolded. You know, whether you buy it

1435
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: or not, who knows. Maybe he's you know, embellishing a

1436
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: little bit or what have you. But can you just

1437
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: walk down the road of where do you think we

1438
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: would be right now with numerous things if Fernando Mendoza

1439
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: chose Georgia instead of Indiana. Indiana runs the table, they

1440
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: go sixteen to oh National champs, Georgia lost Indy College

1441
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: Football playoff to Old Miss, an insane game where Shambliss

1442
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: just went crazy, and then you look at Mendoza gonna

1443
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: most likely be the number one overall pick. Signetti just

1444
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: got a huge contract extension, making a little more than

1445
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: thirteen million dollars per season. Where do you think we'd

1446
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: be with all this stuff if Mendoza said, you know, thanks, Iu,

1447
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 2: I think you're building something really good. I'm going to

1448
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: go over here with the goat dogs. Where do you

1449
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: think we'd be with all this stuff right now? It's

1450
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: your best guess, man.

1451
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it would look different because of

1452
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 3: how important quarterbacks are to the makeup of a team.

1453
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: I mean from a leadership standpoint alone, I think for Nanda,

1454
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 3: Mendoza was exactly what Indiana Nita and what Kurt Signetti

1455
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: needed at the helm of that offense and really at

1456
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: the leadership platform for that team. Then you throw in

1457
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: the fact that he was an excellent player on an

1458
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 3: excellent team. And so if we are going to carbon

1459
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: copy the results, which isn't really fair, But if we're

1460
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 3: going to take some of the results that he had

1461
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: in Indiana and we're going to apply that to a

1462
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: different team that's loaded up with talent, I mean, the

1463
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: the it would it would look different, it would smell different,

1464
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: It would have it would have been a different season.

1465
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 3: But I think there would have been a great deal

1466
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: of success elsewhere. I think he made the right choice

1467
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: for all the reasons we already we already know. But

1468
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 3: on top of it, I think there was something about

1469
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 3: this Indiana team and Signetti's messaging about being the underdog,

1470
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: being the overlooked. So, yeah, you could go and be

1471
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: the big dog at Georgia, or you could be the

1472
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 3: underdog where you're fighting for every single morsel at the

1473
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: dinner table like nobody else is going to give you

1474
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 3: any respect, and that can fuel a fire that burns

1475
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 3: deeper and brighter and hotter than anybody else's in the country.

1476
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: And that really did fuel a lot of what the

1477
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: Hoosiers got done this year. I'm convinced of it. I

1478
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: think I think as much of you know, Look, they're

1479
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: talented up front on the offensive line, in the defensive line,

1480
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 3: they had some great secondary players, they had some talented

1481
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 3: skilled position players around that offense, and then obviously had

1482
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: a tremendous quarterback and a great head coach. Having said

1483
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 3: all of that, one of the most impactful and important

1484
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: things that you saw week in week out with Indiana

1485
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 3: when you really started paying attention to it, is that

1486
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 3: team played with a ferocious attitude. When you played against

1487
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: the Hoosiers, you were gonna get beat up, you were

1488
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: gonna have a tough time the next week because they

1489
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: were playing some physical football and I think a lot

1490
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: of that had to do with the leadership quality and

1491
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: the underdog mentality of the Indiana Hoosiers.

1492
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously it would have been different. Here's my question.

1493
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 5: Do you think there was some foul play involved here?

1494
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: Like we've gone off the rails with college football recruiting.

1495
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 5: Do you think Mark Cuban very powerful man. I'm not

1496
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 5: accusing him of anything. I'm just putting it out there.

1497
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 5: Maybe like rig the cell phone towers around for him,

1498
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 5: no outgoing calls to the Southeastern region, George, Alabama, MISSI

1499
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 5: to be all this places, like you can only call

1500
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 5: the state of Indiana.

1501
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know. Obviously I'm saying that tongue in cheek.

1502
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 5: But Mendoza's like mentality, like the way he goes about

1503
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 5: his business.

1504
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 4: He's kind of a nerd. He's on LinkedIn.

1505
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: I love it.

1506
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm a nerd too.

1507
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,520
Speaker 5: I don't think that would have fit in at Georgia,

1508
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,520
Speaker 5: Like just like just like the personality.

1509
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 4: I think because Signetti also.

1510
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 5: Is kind of a nerd and he's kind of gotten

1511
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: this tough guy mentality now, but I think deep down

1512
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: he's like a nerd, And I think that alignment with

1513
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 5: Mendoza's personality. I think it fits. And stop we say

1514
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 5: this all the time when we're trying to handicapping gemic

1515
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 5: styles make fights. I think that that personality doesn't go

1516
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 5: hand in hand with Georgia. Now, winning cures everything, and

1517
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 5: if you're winning, I don't think it would have mattered.

1518
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 5: But let's say Mendoza doesn't get off to a great

1519
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 5: start at Georgia, maybe loses one of those big games,

1520
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 5: and then he's got that kind of nerdy, quirky personality

1521
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 5: that won't rub the Georgia fans as as I think

1522
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 5: cleanly as it did Indiana. So I think it all

1523
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 5: worked out the way it was supposed to. But man,

1524
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 5: i'd be I'd be checking them cell phone tower records,

1525
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 5: stay in Indiana there to make sure nothing really bad happened.

1526
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: It is kind of wild. It's more than kinda it's

1527
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: completely wild to think if Mendoza went to Georgia, Georgia,

1528
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: there's at least a possibility he's not a national champion,

1529
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 2: not as soon to be number one overall. Pick Signetti's

1530
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: not getting a crazy contract extension like it's it's well

1531
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: within reason that all of those things happen. I thought

1532
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: Jared said it very well, like it's sort of like

1533
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly saying, my family, it's just like no, no,

1534
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: just no, no, it's not a fit whatsoever. I don't

1535
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 2: think it would have been a fit with Mendoza going

1536
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: to Georgia. Of course, winning here's everything. And if he

1537
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: won every game, everyone would love him. But if he

1538
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: lost a couple of games, which is very possible with

1539
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: the schedule Georgia had. Remember they had that game against

1540
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: Bama between the Hedges and and Bama.

1541
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 4: Polese people sell on real quick, Oh.

1542
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: Gosh, you lose to Bama at home. Yeah, and he's

1543
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: kind of like, oh shucks, you know, like they're like,

1544
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: get this freaking guy out of here. Oh man, it's

1545
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: crazy to think that. But it worked out great for

1546
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: him and I you and I'll tell you what I

1547
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: do know super fast? How rare is it? Like Indiana

1548
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: was just the up and coming team. You know, Mendoza's

1549
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: picking between IU who just had a great season, but

1550
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: they're still I you. You know, he just got smacked

1551
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: by Notre Dame in the college football playoff, you know,

1552
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: two seasons ago, and he's choosing between I you and

1553
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: George Kirby smart, a couple of national championships under his belt.

1554
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: You got you know, Signetty.

1555
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 4: He's cool.

1556
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: I like what he's building there, but man, is that

1557
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna go? Is that what I'm hitching my

1558
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: wagon too? And Mendoza did and it worked out magnificently.

1559
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: But that's what blows my mind the most. A lot

1560
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: of players in that same position, they're going to Georgia

1561
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: all day instead of IU and Mendoza was. I mean,

1562
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: this is a compliment. He was the oddball who chose

1563
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: Indiana and it worked out great. So what a crazy story? Man,

1564
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,240
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1586
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1587
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,519
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1588
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,080
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1589
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,200
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1590
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,800
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1591
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1592
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,439
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1593
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,160
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1594
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,040
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1595
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays.

1596
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 2: Ah Yes, the prop betting market. Jared we start with you,

1597
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: what's something you have circled today.

1598
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm going to the NBA rare for me, but I

1599
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: really had this spot kind of pointed out to me

1600
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 5: and I really like it. Nicks Rockets tonight really good game.

1601
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 5: The Knicks are coming off a loss to the Pistons

1602
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 5: and Jalen Brunton played well in that game, and I

1603
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 5: think he's gonna have another good game tonight. So against

1604
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 5: favorable defenses who defend the pick and roll, which is

1605
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 5: what Houston does, they're very good pick and roll defense.

1606
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 5: Jalen Bronson actually has been fantastics this year, averaging thirty

1607
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 5: three points per game. His point total prop tonight is

1608
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 5: twenty six and a half, but that's not good enough

1609
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 5: for me. If you go to the alternate point prop,

1610
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 5: you can get him to score thirty plus at plus

1611
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 5: one sixty five. In addition, then Jim gives you a

1612
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 5: twenty five percent odds booze for the NBA tonight, So

1613
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 5: I can get Jalen Brunson to score thirty or more

1614
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 5: at plus two to oh six.

1615
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 3: Love this bet.

1616
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 4: Houston's defense not as good on the road as it

1617
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 4: is at home.

1618
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 5: We mentioned that they're good against the pick and roll,

1619
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 5: and Brunton last year at the Guard dropped forty two

1620
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 5: on the Rockets. I think he has a big game

1621
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 5: tonight against Houston.

1622
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 3: Okay, thirty is a special number because again we go

1623
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: back to the ice. You were saying, you're well saying

1624
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: all right, So Team Canada facing our boys in the red,

1625
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 3: white and blue on the men's hockey ice at the

1626
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 3: Winter Olympics. Jordan Bennington is the goalie for Team Canada

1627
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 3: right now. Thirty and a half is his goal saved total.

1628
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under and here's why. Now, this is

1629
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 3: mainly because most of the pucks are gonna hit the

1630
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: back of the net for Team USA. No, I'm teazing,

1631
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: honestly good defensive line for this this Canadian team. They

1632
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: don't allow a ton of shots on goal against Finland.

1633
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: I believe it was seventeen shots on goal against the

1634
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: Swiss twenty six. They're roughly averaging twenty shots on goal

1635
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 3: per opponent over the Olympics so far. And Team USA,

1636
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 3: one of their best volume shooters is questionable for this match.

1637
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: He got Teh Thompson, who's may or may not go.

1638
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 3: So give me the under on the thirty and a

1639
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: half for Jordan Benning, tim Team Canada goalkeeper.

1640
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna dare to be great. That might

1641
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: look like an idiot in the process, but that's the

1642
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: way it goes. I'm going with Cam Boozer, Duke big Man,

1643
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: give me under twenty one and a half points today

1644
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: against Michigan. They're in DC. Really great frontline for Michigan.

1645
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 2: I just don't see Boozer going crazy. He can shoot

1646
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: it from outside, he's got some touch, he's got a

1647
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: good jump shot, but he loves playing bolli ball as well.

1648
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: So I think they limit his point total. Maybe if

1649
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: you're feeling saucy, over three and a half assists, it's

1650
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: plus money. He's done that in six of his last

1651
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: nine games. Oh, welcome in Happy Saturday too. You hope

1652
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: is going well?

1653
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 3: Man?

1654
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: Do we have a tasty matchup today? Number one Michigan

1655
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 2: against number three Duke the Dookies in Washington, DC. And

1656
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I was just thinking about this

1657
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: before we die. We you know, it just did a

1658
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: cannonball into these waters of this game. I was thinking

1659
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: about what does Michigan do best? You know, and you

1660
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: start thinking about it, it's like well, they pretty much

1661
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: do everything well and that that's really impressive. But it's like,

1662
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: but what do they do best? It's kind of tough

1663
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: to be like, well do they do they play defense

1664
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 2: and challenge shots with their front line? Especially? Is that

1665
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: the thing they do best? Or is it that they

1666
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: score like crazy? They could play this up tempo style

1667
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: of play, and I don't know what the one thing

1668
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: is that they do best. But I knew they know

1669
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: they do almost everything well. And I think that's a

1670
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: good problem to have when it's you're like splitting hairs

1671
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: between what is the one thing they do better than

1672
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: anything else they bring to the table. It's like you've

1673
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: got three, four or five things to pick from. There's

1674
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: just a completely complete team. There's just a complete squad.

1675
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Michigan and Man Duke's gonna have their hands full here.

1676
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: I love Cameron Boozer. He's had a sensational freshman season,

1677
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: but I look at what he does, and we talked

1678
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 2: about this and prop it up briefly because we're up

1679
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: against it. But I just don't think Cameron Boozer goes

1680
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: crazy scoring today. It's just Michigan does such a good

1681
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 2: job down low, challenging shots, changing shots, you know, affecting shots,

1682
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 2: and Booze can shoot it, but he likes to play

1683
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: bullyball down low, and I don't think he's gonna have

1684
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: great success doing that against Michigan's front line. So I

1685
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: like under twenty one and a half, and I could

1686
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: maybe see his assists going up. He's hit over three

1687
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: and a half assists in six of his last nine games,

1688
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 2: So think of it from a Michigan defensive standpoint, I

1689
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: would think focusing on Boozer converging on boos maybe he's doubled,

1690
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: maybe he's down low and he just doesn't have a

1691
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: shot and he kicks it out. I could see him

1692
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: going over those assists. That's at plus money, by the way,

1693
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: plus one thirty five if you're thinking he gets the

1694
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: four assists. But I just don't see Booze going crazy

1695
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: scoring wise today. I like the under as far as

1696
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: that goes.

1697
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's Look, you know, to comment on what

1698
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 3: you said at first, Michigan, you know, what are they

1699
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 3: really the best at? I mean, offensively, you got to

1700
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: give a ton of credit to the fact that their

1701
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: identity revolves around size and skill. You know, they're they're big,

1702
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: but they're They're also they can score from everywhere like

1703
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 3: they they really are a threat everywhere you look on

1704
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: the court. There's no real weak points offensively. So I

1705
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 3: guess if you were going to say, like, what, what

1706
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 3: is the one thing that sort of sticks out to

1707
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: you head and shoulders above the other things about this

1708
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: certain team, that would be my apraisal of the Wolverines. Now,

1709
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 3: Duke look very talented offensive team, but obviously the engine

1710
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 3: that drives them is Boozer. And so however his night

1711
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: is going is how typically the Blue Devil's night is

1712
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 3: going to go. So with that, I mean on a

1713
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: neutral ish floor, I would say the biggest matchups you're

1714
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 3: looking at are gonna be Boozer against Michigan Skyscrapers. I mean,

1715
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 3: is he going to be as productive against this Wolverines defense,

1716
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: especially King on him, because as mentioned, if you shut

1717
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 3: him down, you're doing a good job on your way

1718
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: to beating Duke. If you can turnovers versus pace, you know,

1719
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 3: are you going to be able to cause some havoc

1720
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: and take the ball away or win on the defensive

1721
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: glass and create tempo That is going to be a

1722
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 3: big part of this game. And then Rim protection. I mean, obviously, Michigan,

1723
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: their goal is going to be to stand in front

1724
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: of of you know, lane scorers in the paint and

1725
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: keep Boozers. Uh keep both Boozer's ability to hurt you

1726
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 3: to a minimum. But he draws a lot of fouls,

1727
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 3: so you have to stay out of foul trouble if

1728
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna be Duke today. Uh So yeah, I mean,

1729
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: looking at it through the lens of this matchup, just

1730
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 3: from a caliber of college basketball matchup, this is a

1731
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: final four style matchup. And so if you're interested in

1732
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: a neutral site final four style matchup, look no further.

1733
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: This is it.

1734
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: This is an unbelievable watch today.

1735
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: I agree.

1736
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 5: I think this is Uh this feels like a game

1737
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 5: that you're gonna You're gonna circle it and be like, man,

1738
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 5: remember when we watched Duke play Michigan early in the year.

1739
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 5: Now we're getting it again in the Final four. Like

1740
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 5: it does feel like a Final four kind of matchup.

1741
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 5: And the neutral floor at this time of year is

1742
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 5: very unique. You do not see neutral site games in

1743
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 5: the month of February very often.

1744
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 4: So Michigan.

1745
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 5: Though I said it during this segment with Seamus, I

1746
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 5: said it they'reing the parley platter right. We put Michigan

1747
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,560
Speaker 5: in the parley platter today. They are a problem. I

1748
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 5: mean this is their front line. Jaxel Lndenberg, six' nine,

1749
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 5: senior and he's the shortest guy on on on that front.

1750
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 5: Line The maara, kid the seven foot, THREE i, mean

1751
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 5: he is. Unbelievable and these are all upper. Classmen they've

1752
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 5: got a couple of other big. Men Morez johnson the

1753
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 5: other one THAT i would, mention who has got a

1754
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 5: really good offensive rating and just a top ten across

1755
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 5: the board and a lot of these rebounding and you,

1756
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 5: know field goal percentage. NUMBERS i, mean he's just a

1757
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 5: walking bucket in the. Paint these are guys that just are,

1758
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 5: big brooding in like formidable presences in the. Paint And

1759
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 5: duke has got some guys, Too But duke's guys are

1760
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 5: a little. Younger they're mostly freshmen and, sophomores and they

1761
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: haven't been in these types of games, before Where MICHIGAN

1762
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 5: i think has had a little bit more tenure in

1763
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 5: these types of. Environments SO i think the, atmosphere And

1764
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 5: rich said this in our first hour about you know

1765
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 5: how much the home atmosphere, matters and obviously this is

1766
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 5: not a home game for either, team but the neutral

1767
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 5: site VENUE i think will add a little bit of,

1768
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 5: that you, Know final four feel to. It AND i

1769
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 5: just Think michigan maturity, wise like this is kind of

1770
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 5: men amongst boys with their. Team WHEN i watched them

1771
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 5: the other day Against, Purdue and to be, Fair i've

1772
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 5: not watched a ton of college basketball this. Year i'm

1773
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 5: just now starting to really grind my teeth into. It

1774
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 5: but WHEN i watch that game Against purdue on the

1775
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 5: road At, Makim purdue is a tough.

1776
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 4: Team.

1777
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 5: Man they were just blow for, blow like they were

1778
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 5: taking the body Blows brian From purdue and they were just.

1779
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 5: Answering AND i just don't know if there's a team

1780
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 5: physically that can match up With. Michigan, now maybe you

1781
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 5: make a bunch of, shots right three is the great

1782
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 5: equalizer and that's how you kind of balance the boards.

1783
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 5: Here BUT i just feel like if this game is

1784
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 5: kind of played out in a phone booth and both

1785
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 5: teams kind of match themselves with the outside, Shooting MICHIGAN

1786
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 5: i think is, bigger, faster, stronger especially in the.

1787
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: Paint.

1788
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man it's like you, KNOW i can't GET i

1789
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: can't get away from. Football you, KNOW i know it's

1790
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: the offse BUT i can't get. Away But, Michigan michigan's front,

1791
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: line it's really like having a really solid running game in,

1792
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: football where it's just, reliable you know WHAT i, mean

1793
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: you can count on. It and the way that they change,

1794
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: shots affect, shots block. SHOTS i was At Cameron indoor

1795
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: this Past. MONDAY i got to go See Duke Hammer,

1796
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: syracuse AND i know it's a down year For. Q's

1797
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: but when you score one hundred and one points in

1798
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: a college basketball game that is beat down, city AND

1799
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: i gambled with my, Ticket i'm, LIKE i don't get

1800
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: how to work. Out it worked out. GREAT i was, like,

1801
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: nice standing right next to The Cameron crazy is the

1802
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: best Seats i've ever.

1803
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 8: Had.

1804
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: WOW i was like in the third. ROW i was

1805
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: just standing right. There you, Know i'm, like this is.

1806
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: Great but the point IS i, was you, KNOW i

1807
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: could almost reach out and Touch Cameron. BOOZER i was.

1808
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Close and that dude has AN nba body. Already like

1809
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 2: that dude is like a, legit like, thick none looking

1810
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: freshman right like he's got an adult body. Already but

1811
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: against the length Of. MICHIGAN i just don't think he's

1812
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: gonna be able to play bullyball the way that he likes,

1813
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 2: to meaning like he can just kind of elbow a

1814
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: guy out of the way and, boom point blank. Layup

1815
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen Against. Michigan and when that is

1816
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 2: the engine of your squad and you're not able to

1817
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: rely on that the same, WAY i just think there's

1818
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 2: a ripple effect. There SO i just Think duke is

1819
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: up against it in terms of. Matchup And i've got

1820
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 2: my eye on the pace as, well Because michigan they

1821
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: can they can run up and. Down you mentioned that

1822
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: game Against Perdue, jared and they can get after it pretty.

1823
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Good but Does, duke led By John, shire do they look,

1824
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: to you, know slow it down a little. Bit do

1825
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 2: they look to not run and gun and play that

1826
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: up tempo. Pace it'd be really interesting to see from

1827
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: a pace, standpoint how Does duke try to play this?

1828
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 3: Thing, yeah, YEAH i Think duke will win with tempo

1829
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 3: and really nothing. ELSE i think what you need to

1830
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 3: watch for is the first five, minutes and it's going

1831
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: to tell you a. Lot, AGAIN i think a lot

1832
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 3: can be learned within the first five to eight minutes

1833
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 3: in college, basketball just to sort of dissect what the goal,

1834
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: is you, know, offensively defensively for, teams and that comes

1835
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: with a lot of, Coaching it comes with a lot

1836
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: of practice and what especially in the bigger matchups like this,

1837
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: one because again this is a preview of what's to

1838
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 3: come In. March in my, OPINION i think we could

1839
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 3: see this matchup again and it's a good, one and

1840
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 3: it could be on a neutral floor. Again so WHAT

1841
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 3: i would say, is If michigan's biggs are touching the

1842
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 3: paint on every half court possession For, Duke duke's in

1843
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 3: for a long. Night they just. ARE i, mean you're

1844
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,560
Speaker 3: just you're not gonna win if you're you're not winning in,

1845
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 3: transition if you're not winning with. Tempo duke's got to

1846
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 3: push the. Pace they got to tire out the defense

1847
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 3: and the rim protectors Of, michigan and they've got to

1848
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: find a way to get Booz er loose and get him,

1849
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 3: down get him down hill against, uh against this This michigan.

1850
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i, mean you're gonna need quick. Screens you're gonna

1851
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 3: need to find a way to get him open looks

1852
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: and get him. Slashing that is going to be the

1853
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 3: recipe for. Success SO i think it's gonna be. TEMPO

1854
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: i think it's going to be trying to win the early,

1855
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 3: rounds maybe not necessarily on the, scoreboard but Forcing michigan

1856
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 3: to run with you and and that would be a

1857
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 3: key to success For michigan or for For. Duke tonight Against, Michigan.

1858
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: I'll make a prediction right.

1859
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 5: Now today is the day Where, michigan all of a,

1860
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 5: sudden is like the team Right we talked About arizona a,

1861
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 5: lot they were, undefeated that nice little.

1862
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 4: Streak we talked about some other teams that have had

1863
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 4: their moments this.

1864
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 5: Year michigan has definitely been one of, them but they've

1865
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 5: been amongst the other.

1866
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 4: Bigs like they haven't separated.

1867
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 5: YET i know The big twelve has been really, good

1868
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 5: THE sec has been really. Good maybe we're not talking

1869
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 5: as much about The big. Ten maybe it's not as

1870
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 5: deep in prior. Years don't. Care today is the day

1871
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 5: If michigan Bodies, duke who has very good players at

1872
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 5: the highest, level a little bit younger as we, said

1873
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 5: but still. Elite If michigan Makes duke look small, TODAY

1874
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 5: i think today is the day where you're, Like michigan

1875
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 5: is the. Team, obviously they are the number one team

1876
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 5: in the, country so they deserve some. RESPECT i know

1877
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 5: the rankings throughout the regular.

1878
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 4: Seasons who.

1879
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 5: Cares but if we get that dominant, right Like brian

1880
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 5: and you watched, it you said they got big. Bodies

1881
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 5: If michigan rolls INTO dc today and makes that team look,

1882
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 5: small is there any question that they're the best team

1883
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 5: in the country after.

1884
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: TODAY i think that's.

1885
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 5: What we could see If michigan does flex their muscle

1886
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 5: against This duke.

1887
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Team, Absolutely i'm with, you AND i agree with. You

1888
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 2: if that's the way it goes, down that's the takeaway

1889
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: far and, wide you, Know and people are sold On

1890
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: michigan as it, Is so if they Punk duke in the,

1891
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 2: process like that's now we're. Talking we're cooking with grease

1892
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: at that. POINT i will say the flip side is

1893
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 2: kind of interesting, too, though if Like michigan is a

1894
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: team that's been, knighted you know WHAT i, Mean like they're,

1895
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 2: legit we believe In. Michigan If duke rolls in there

1896
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 2: and let's just, say the crowd's going crazy And booze

1897
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 2: has a game and all of a, sudden they're hitting

1898
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: some threes And michigan just isn't flowing the same way.

1899
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Offensively duke's more than capable of winning this. Game If

1900
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: duke is able to win against a Knighted michigan, squad

1901
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: you're finally gonna hear people talk About. Duke you really

1902
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: don't hear that right. Now if, anything you're, like, yeah

1903
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Like boozer's really, good but you know they're they're. Capable

1904
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 2: it just seems like there's the way people. Talk it's

1905
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 2: like their voice goes up a half octave at, least

1906
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 2: where they're, like, yeah they're they're. GOOD i Like, duke

1907
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 2: but it just seems like there's a, yeah but like

1908
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 2: you're not completely. Sold if they're able to Beat, michigan

1909
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: there'd be a lot more people sold On.

1910
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 3: DUKE i know that. Much oh, yeah, yeah, yeah this

1911
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 3: is this is a really GOOD i don't want to

1912
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 3: call it a. Test duke's a very good. Team duke's

1913
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: gonna go. Far but but this is one of those

1914
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 3: those games where you know you can you can judge

1915
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 3: a lot about what bar you're currently, at and it

1916
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you can't get. Better and, also, look we know.

1917
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 3: Injuries we also know the swings of a basketball, season

1918
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 3: you can get worse as. Well but but you, know

1919
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 3: this is a great bar to sort of, say, hey

1920
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: where were we? At you know this is this is

1921
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 3: a good pre. Tournament, hey let's let's let's get a

1922
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: little bit of a gut check here and find out

1923
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 3: if we we're as buttoned up as we think we.

1924
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 3: Are AND i really, think and this sounds crazy a little,

1925
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 3: bit but you, know because there's no moral victories in,

1926
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 3: sports and blah blah blah blah, blah but if you

1927
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: keep it close all game long With, michigan if you

1928
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: just are in this game from from you, know tip

1929
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 3: off until closing, BUZZER i think that's a win For,

1930
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: duke AND i think that's going to be an important

1931
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 3: moment in their. Season, obviously a, win like you, said

1932
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 3: changes the opinions of, many but maybe even just a

1933
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 3: really tight game against a great team in this country

1934
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 3: is a win in the minds and the eyes of

1935
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 3: the players and the coaches in that locker.

1936
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 4: Room, yeah this is definitely a litmus.

1937
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 5: Tesking there's there's zero doubt about it that this is

1938
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 5: a litmus test kind of. Game i'm actually fascinated to

1939
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 5: see which team does you, know respond from, it because

1940
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 5: someone's got to lose or you can't finish in a.

1941
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 5: Tie SO i think that's gonna be the MOST a

1942
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 5: very interesting storyline heading Into march is if this game

1943
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 5: is very one, sided like let's say do loses by,

1944
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 5: twenty how do they bounce back from that as we head?

1945
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 5: Forward same thing With. Michigan let's say they lose a tough.

1946
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 5: Game how do they bounce back from? That BECAUSE i

1947
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 5: think both of these teams Are Final four caliber good

1948
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 5: and again we don't see these types of matchups on

1949
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 5: a neutral, floor non conference opponents in Late. February it

1950
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 5: is a very unique. Situation so while the game itself

1951
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 5: is interesting and obviously we break it down who's gonna,

1952
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 5: win blab ba bab we have it in the, platter

1953
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 5: we Think, michigan how these ho whoever, loses whoever, loses

1954
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 5: and how they, lose how they respond to, it and

1955
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 5: how that impacts their MARCH i think is going to

1956
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 5: be a very fascinating storyline as.

1957
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah can't wait for, it, man should be a

1958
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,479
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1959
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1960
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1961
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1973
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1974
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1980
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1981
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1982
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1983
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Speaker 2: up at the top of your. Screen all, Right so

1984
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 2: we get to Berner gate.

1985
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 3: With Kevin.

1986
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: DURANT i love this story so. MUCH i can't get

1987
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: enough of. It so if you haven't been following this,

1988
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 2: story the gist is there's someone ON x who will

1989
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: send a bunch of direct. Messages it is at get

1990
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: higher seven to, seven, Okay and a lot of people

1991
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 2: believe this is Actually Kevin durant who's behind The burner,

1992
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 2: account and he's just it's almost like a group text, message,

1993
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 2: right instead of sending group text messages on your, phone

1994
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: he's just sending like a GROUP dm if you, will

1995
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 2: or these are direct messages that he's he or whoever's

1996
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 2: behind this account is sending out. Now if it's Not Kevin,

1997
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: durant it's like the best impression Of Kevin durant. Ever

1998
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 2: and he was asked about this the other day and

1999
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: he'd never he didn't deny. It he just kind of

2000
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 2: derek jetered the, question just, like, hey we're you, know

2001
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 2: we're focused on the, season and if you're not behind,

2002
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: this don't you think you would just say, that you'd be, like,

2003
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 2: listen it's just not, me just so you, KNOW i

2004
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 2: don't know who's doing an, impression but hats off to.

2005
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Them they sound just like, me but it's not. Me

2006
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 2: if it's not, him he probably would have just said exactly, that.

2007
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: Right so the non comment is pretty. Telling and if

2008
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: this Is Kevin, Durant i'll just put it this, Way

2009
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 2: just the idea that this could be true is pretty,

2010
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 2: telling you know WHAT i. Mean if there's a story

2011
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: that came out and It's Patrick mahomes and he's sending

2012
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: these these dms and he's trashing his own teammates and

2013
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 2: like trashing past, teammates AND i think no one would buy.

2014
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 2: It they'd be like Small, holmes he's a grown, Up,

2015
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't buy that It's mahomes doing these, things you,

2016
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 2: know but with us being LIKE i can See Kevin

2017
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 2: durant doing, That, like just that alone is very telling

2018
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: about this whole.

2019
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: SITUATION I i think That Kevin durant has you, know

2020
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 3: and this is this is not necessarily his, fault BECAUSE

2021
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 3: i think some of what has created an unbelievably influential

2022
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 3: and and tremendous superstar in THE nba is part of

2023
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 3: the reason why why this is, happening you, KNOW I i.

2024
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 3: You you gotta have the the bad with the, good

2025
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 3: right like like there's. Life life is like. That whatever

2026
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 3: you want to whatever philosophy you want to look at it,

2027
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 3: through whether it's you, know more yin and yang or

2028
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: you know it's uh ebb and. FLOW i DON'T i

2029
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 3: don't care how you ok, it but you just know it's.

2030
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 3: True everybody's got there really good, attributes everybody's got there

2031
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 3: really bad, attributes and it all sort of meets in

2032
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 3: the middle and you become a whole. Person AND i

2033
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: think part of what Drives Kevin durant is he's he's.

2034
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 3: Sensitive he is really affected by people's opinions of. Him

2035
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: you see it with many of the interactions he's had

2036
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 3: with the. Press he has been highly reactive on social

2037
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 3: media in the. Past he engages with his following the

2038
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: way very few superstars. Do Like Kevin durant is a sensitive.

2039
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 3: Guy AND i think that sensitivity has fueled him for

2040
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 3: a long. Time and so this is a little bit

2041
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 3: of the bad with the. GOOD i think you're. RIGHT

2042
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 3: i think he dods the. QUESTION i listened to the.

2043
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 3: ANSWER i don't think he faced it and was truthful

2044
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 3: about it or flat out lied about. It you, know

2045
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 3: those are obviously two. OPTIONS i think he sidestepped it,

2046
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: somewhat AND i think it's because he's. Embarrassed he's embarrassed

2047
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 3: that this same fire that burns uncontrollably to be a

2048
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 3: competitive and a great athlete and to work on his

2049
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 3: skill set, constantly to show the world that he still

2050
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 3: has something to prove and he can still accomplish a.

2051
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 3: Lot that same fire burns bright and hot every time

2052
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 3: he has somebody on social media thrown negative barb that

2053
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 3: sticks him in the, ribs and he just can't help,

2054
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 3: himself you. Know so the same way he can't help

2055
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 3: himself but get better on the, court he can't help

2056
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 3: himself but engage on social. Media and that reactiveness is

2057
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 3: the reason why he is who he, is for the

2058
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 3: good and the. Bad SO i don't, KNOW i, MEAN

2059
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 3: i don't know if he'll ever get to a place

2060
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 3: where he'll be able to openly, admit you, know to

2061
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,879
Speaker 3: all of. THIS i don't know if that would necessarily

2062
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 3: even be good for his public image and what that

2063
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 3: would do in terms of fallout for. Him but you,

2064
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 3: know when you see things like, this it just sort

2065
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 3: of makes you a little bit. Sad AND i hope

2066
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 3: that at some point he finds peace because getting online

2067
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 3: and creating burner accounts to defend yourself against other people

2068
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 3: and pretending like you're somebody else defending you to other,

2069
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, mean it doesn't it doesn't feel like that's

2070
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: coming from somebody who's functioning from a place of real.

2071
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 3: Wellness SO i hope he finds peace soon BECAUSE i

2072
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 3: would not want to spend a half hour inside of

2073
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 3: a brain of somebody who who feels like they need

2074
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 3: to create a burner social media account to defend. Themselves.

2075
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it's very well, SAID i, think And i've

2076
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 5: struggled with this too in my career now obviously not

2077
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 5: To Kevin durant's, level but we face a lot of

2078
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 5: trolls and a lot of backlash in our profession as,

2079
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 5: well and it's probably been the, BIGGEST i would, say

2080
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 5: area of growth for me over the last few. Years

2081
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 5: the HIGHER i climb up the, ladder the more noise you.

2082
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 5: Hear AND i would say that's the biggest THING i

2083
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 5: focus on every day with my mental, clarity is how

2084
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,839
Speaker 5: DO i block out the? Noise because it is, deafening

2085
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 5: like you can get overwhelmed by, it AND i cannot

2086
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 5: imagine what he or What rich went through during his.

2087
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 5: Career i'm sure every athlete that is at this level

2088
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 5: and you're seeing it on a different, level on a

2089
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 5: completely opposite end of the spectrum With Russell westbrook's. Wife

2090
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 5: did you see that story where his wife was getting

2091
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 5: significant hate threats and you, know awful things being said

2092
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 5: to these athletes on a regular. Basis how you handle

2093
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 5: that is really important in your. CAREER i would say

2094
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 5: it's almost as important as your physical. Health like if

2095
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 5: you're physically, healthy but you're mentally somewhere, ELSE i don't know.

2096
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 4: If that you're gonna be very. Effective you're certainly not

2097
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 4: going to reach your full.

2098
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 5: Potential so For kevin and for anyone who is getting

2099
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 5: into the public, sphere like we're not accountants at some

2100
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 5: big firm where we sit in front of a computer

2101
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 5: all day and just punch, numbers like we are in

2102
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 5: the public eye every single, day and you have to

2103
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 5: put yourself out there in order to be, successful especially

2104
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 5: in this content driven society that we live, in you.

2105
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 4: Have to be able to handle the.

2106
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 5: NOISE i just posted this yesterday about The olympic hockey

2107
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 5: thing where everyone just gets mad about everything like that

2108
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 5: is the default reaction to. Everything that is what social

2109
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 5: media has done to our. Society it has programmed a

2110
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 5: culture of default reaction being negative and outrage to, everything which,

2111
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 5: means no matter how successful or good you are at your,

2112
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 5: craft you are going to have a large majority of

2113
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 5: people that are going to naysay you, constantly and how

2114
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 5: you handle that is going to impact, act how successful

2115
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 5: and how high you can.

2116
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 4: Climb so obviously with me.

2117
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 5: On a much lesser, level but every athlete needs to

2118
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 5: be able to handle that in some. Capacity AND i

2119
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 5: think if you ask anyone How kevin has handled that

2120
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 5: compared to the average, athlete it's it significantly. Worse like

2121
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 5: he is very out, there he is very, online AND

2122
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 5: i think it IS i don't want to say it's

2123
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 5: hampered his career because he has had a ton of,

2124
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 5: success But, brian how much more success could he.

2125
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 4: Have had if he just ignored all of this? Noise,

2126
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 4: yeah no.

2127
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 2: Doubt and it's funny because he or whoever's behind this,

2128
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 2: account it seems Like Kevin, durant but he References Russell

2129
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 2: westbrook And i'll get to the greatest description Of Russell

2130
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: westbrook of all time in a. Second BUT i just

2131
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 2: think if you compare those two players' mentality, wise their

2132
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,480
Speaker 2: approach to, basketball their approach to the. Noise Russell westbrook

2133
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 2: has said he's been blessed with the UH i forget

2134
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: the subtle gift of not giving a. Bleep you know

2135
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: that's Not Kevin. Durant If Kevin durant was blessed with

2136
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: the same. Thing to your, Point, jared who knows he's

2137
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 2: been incredibly well, Accomplished but could he have done even?

2138
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 3: MORE i don't.

2139
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 2: KNOW i just know this About Kevin, durant where he

2140
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: is an exceptional. Talent he's an exceptional all time, player

2141
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 2: not a good leader. Whatsoever and that's the thing With

2142
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 2: Kevin durant is he is a. Baller but when he

2143
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 2: went to The warriors and he could just do his,

2144
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: job he could lock in on his, role he knew

2145
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: what his role. Was every, night he could lock in

2146
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: and just play. Basketball he wasn't forced to be a

2147
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 2: leader or. Anything he could just lock in and do

2148
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 2: what he does and he was exceptional at doing. That

2149
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 2: but all of a, sudden now he's In. Phoenix he's In, brooklyn,

2150
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: now he's In. Houston now he's the, guy he's the.

2151
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 2: Leader he's come, on, guys get, on get on. Board

2152
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 2: i'll take it to the. PROMISE i remember The Ray lewis,

2153
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: thing just just get on my back and let's go

2154
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,719
Speaker 2: or something like. That, Right, like that's Not Kevin, Durant

2155
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 2: and he has rapid. Ears he hears all this negative

2156
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 2: stuff and he can't just do The westbrook and just

2157
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 2: like shrug his shoulders and be, like, yeah that's, wrong

2158
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: but what DO i? Care like that's not what he's.

2159
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: Like he wants to get into this debate about this and,

2160
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 2: that AND i think it gets in his way more

2161
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: than it serves him. Well and some of these things

2162
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: that have been, said, again whether it's him or, not

2163
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: it sure does seem like. Him and he didn't deny.

2164
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 2: It but On Shane goon he, said your franchise player

2165
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 2: can't shoot or. Defend that's a way bigger issue than my.

2166
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 2: Turnovers and then he said About Jabari, SMITH i can't

2167
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 2: trust him to make an f and shot or get

2168
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: a stop like these are his. Teammates the thing About

2169
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 2: westbrook was. GREAT i just have to mention he, SAID

2170
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 2: i wouldn't Say Kyrie irving was competing with, me but

2171
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: that light skin and that triple double cocaine bear was

2172
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 2: what a what a description Of russell Westbrook man the

2173
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 2: triple double cocaine. Bear that's unbelievable right. There but, YEAH

2174
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: i just see a lot of similarities With Aaron. Rodgers you,

2175
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: know some people might not buy the comp BUT i

2176
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,839
Speaker 2: look at two exceptional, players exceptional, talents all time, players

2177
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 2: not good, leaders not good, leaders highly, opinionated high opinions of.

2178
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 2: Themselves you, know sometimes the soap opera stuff would get

2179
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 2: in the way of their, growth you, Know and that's

2180
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 2: just WHAT i see From Kevin. Durant i'll put it this.

2181
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 2: Way i'll throw a question to, you. Guys if you

2182
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 2: put this in betting, Terms, okay could be A rockets

2183
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: season win, Total it could be The rockets to make

2184
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: it out of The, west The rockets to win a.

2185
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: Championship does this whole saga with Berner gate does that

2186
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 2: affect you in any way with how you look at

2187
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 2: The rockets going?

2188
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 3: Forward, OH i mean it's. POSSIBLE i, mean it is definitely.

2189
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: Possible i'll say this about the comparison before we get

2190
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 3: to that that you just made Between Kevin durant And Aaron.

2191
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 3: RODGERS i do understand why you draw that, comparison, because,

2192
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,759
Speaker 3: look you, know whether you think they're both poor leaders

2193
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 3: but great, players OR i think that you, Know Kevin

2194
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 3: durant is sensitive and it's what fuels, him AND i

2195
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 3: See Aaron rodgers through the same. LENS i think WE'RE

2196
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 3: i think we're both sort of saying the same, thing

2197
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 3: just we're saying it. DIFFERENTLY i think that the Way

2198
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: Aaron rodgers is great is very similar to the Way

2199
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:41,799
Speaker 3: Kevin durant is. GREAT i think they're both extremely feeling

2200
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 3: individuals that really are affected by outside, words AND i

2201
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 3: think they handle it a little bit. DIFFERENTLY i think

2202
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 3: With Aaron rodgers it is a full frontal assault any

2203
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 3: chance he gets when he finds, microphone and literally he

2204
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 3: tries to find a microphone to do, this he attacks

2205
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 3: those who attack. Him AND i think he tries to find,

2206
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 3: ENEMIES i really. DO i THINK i think he knows

2207
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 3: they're out there, lurking and so instead, of you, know

2208
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 3: sort of sideswiping them, anonymously he's going to seek you

2209
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:19,560
Speaker 3: out and he's going to attack you and let you

2210
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 3: know that he hates you, too you know WHAT i.

2211
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 2: Mean Whereas Kevin, durant that's, different that's absolutely. Different, YEAH

2212
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: i don't.

2213
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: THINK i don't think he can handle. THAT i THINK

2214
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 3: i think he has to do it a little bit,

2215
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 3: more with a little bit more, anonymity anonymity and some

2216
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 3: Tact BUT i think it comes from the same place

2217
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 3: AND i think it is the same thing that that

2218
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 3: fuels both of their competitive.

2219
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 5: Edges, yeah that is an interesting comparison Because, aaron, right

2220
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 5: he has the weekly spot on McAfee's very out there

2221
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 5: and to brib, LIKE i agree that it's something that

2222
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 5: probably has hampered him in his, career BUT i also

2223
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 5: respect it because the one thing we don't get a

2224
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 5: lot from athletes these days is that, candidness that, transparency

2225
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 5: Whereas kevin is doing it behind the shadows like that

2226
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 5: that is, worse way. Worse, Right the thing THAT i

2227
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:16,440
Speaker 5: actually respect About aaron is he has become very spiritual

2228
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 5: at this level of his life and his, career AND

2229
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 5: i think that does show some semblance of growth where

2230
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,680
Speaker 5: you are willing to go inward and look at.

2231
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 4: Yourself AND i do think that.

2232
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 5: Is something he has done and maybe he's a little

2233
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 5: bit too out there with putting that on. Tape like

2234
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 5: The netflix documentary ABOUT i think maybe it Was. NETFLIX

2235
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 5: i forget what streaming provider had it, right there was

2236
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 5: a documentary about his spiritual journey in the eyewasc and

2237
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 5: all that. STUFF i relate to that. JOURNEY i just

2238
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 5: don't necessarily THINK i would put that ON. Tv so

2239
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 5: there is this level of, like, oh how much is too?

2240
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 2: Transparent?

2241
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 4: Right you're almost too?

2242
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 5: Transparent WHERE i respect him coming out and saying these

2243
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 5: things because he is saying it as his true self

2244
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 5: and not this burner account in the shadows behind the,

2245
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 5: scenes but then it's, like, well now you're saying it

2246
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 5: because you want people to know that it's you saying,

2247
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 5: It and then it comes from this like weird place

2248
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 5: of you, know just anger and. Negativity so there's definitely

2249
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 5: both sides to. IT i think IF i had to, choose,

2250
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 5: THOUGH i would rather be On aaron's, side where at

2251
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 5: least he is saying it and he's putting his two

2252
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 5: feet you, know ten toes down and.

2253
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 4: It's his, voice where The kevin like.

2254
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 5: It it almost goes back to like the inner work you,

2255
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 5: do like, therapy like you, know the shadow work that

2256
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 5: you do to discover these dark parts about. Yourself you

2257
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 5: are only able to grow as a person as much

2258
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 5: as you're able to face your own demons without running.

2259
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 5: Away AND i Think kevin is running away by using

2260
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 5: these burner accounts instead of just saying what he, thinks you,

2261
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 5: know just be, authentic, Right.

2262
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 2: YEAH i THINK i like What rich pointed out, there

2263
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 2: and you, like you, know took it to another level, There,

2264
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 2: jared which was. Good but What rich is saying is.

2265
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: True they handle it in different. Ways but WHAT i

2266
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 2: would say is similar with both of them is they

2267
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: don't shelve, anything you know WHAT i, Mean, like let's

2268
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 2: just shelf. It and there's business at, Hand like we're

2269
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of a playoff race, HERE kd and

2270
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 2: we got burner accounts going, on like what are we

2271
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 2: doing right?

2272
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 3: Now you?

2273
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 2: Know and And Aaron, rodgers there's no way if someone

2274
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 2: said something that he disagreed, with there's no. Way he's, like,

2275
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: yeah but it's week. SEVENTEEN i can't be focused on

2276
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 2: any of. That i'm locked in on ball and ball.

2277
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 2: Alone that's just not how he. Rolls and SO i

2278
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 2: think even though they handle it much, differently and kd's

2279
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: got burner accounts And Aaron rodgers is, like put my

2280
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: freaking name on. It you're, Right like he has no

2281
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 2: problem putting it out. There they handle it very, differently

2282
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: but they don't shelf anything like they hold on to

2283
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 2: all of that and sometimes they let that get in

2284
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 2: the way of. BUSINESS i just think that they're both

2285
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 2: outstanding individual, Athletes they're just not great at team, sports

2286
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean like they'd be great at,

2287
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 2: golf tennis if they just ind of, it, boxers they'd be.

2288
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 4: Unbelievable And rogers.

2289
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Golf, yeah but but at team, sport it's, like, man

2290
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: they behave like individual athletes playing team. Sports that's WHERE

2291
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,839
Speaker 2: i think they're. Similar but in any, event good. Discussion

2292
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: we Got Rich, Orenberger Penn State All, American Jared SMITH

2293
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 2: fsr betting. Analyst I'm Brian. No coming up next Rapid.

2294
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: Fire we whach have some selections for. You Hopefully rich

2295
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: AND i will have some correct selections for, you like

2296
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 2: last Week jared three and oh out of the gate

2297
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 2: here wow in the non the football, Offseason rich AND

2298
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 2: I a, yeah writing, Game, No, no there's a long. Radar,

2299
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,320
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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 2: we got some picks to. Make let's do.

2319
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 3: It Rapid.

2320
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 2: Fire, Alrighty jared off a three and oh week in Rapid.

2321
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 2: Fire what do you have for?

2322
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 5: Us let's just not was a bet for the rest

2323
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 5: of The march For MADNESS ncaa basketball.

2324
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 4: Season how about we do. That let's get it through.

2325
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2326
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 4: Today, now let's let's.

2327
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 5: Start THE acc between the very PRESTIGIOUS acc PROGRAMS kyl And.

2328
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 5: Stanford BIG acc game. Today it is actually a huge.

2329
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 5: Rivalry But i'm gonna Take cal minus one and a

2330
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 5: half at. HOME i Love Justin, pippen a son Of

2331
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 5: hall Of Famer Scottie. PIPPEN i think This cal team

2332
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 5: has been playing. Better nice went Over miami a couple

2333
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 5: of weeks. AGO i do Think cal.

2334
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 4: Trending, Up stanford trending. Down that's been the vibe for

2335
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: a lot of my.

2336
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 5: Picks, Today i'll Take Iowas state minus two and a

2337
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 5: half at home against B.

2338
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 4: YU i THINK i was there issues. Me this game

2339
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 4: is on the.

2340
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 5: ROAD i Think Iowa state is significantly the better, team

2341
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 5: and the markets at three are higher, Here so at

2342
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 5: two and a, HALF i think you're getting a bit

2343
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 5: of a discount of BET Mgm Richie saunders out for B.

2344
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 5: Yu he is one of the best players in the,

2345
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 5: country one of the best players on THIS byu, team

2346
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 5: and The cyclones again heating up over the last few,

2347
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 5: weeks wins Over kansas And houston their top ten In

2348
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 5: torvick in the month Of, february WHERE yu trending, down

2349
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 5: And i'll Take illinois minus six and a half AGAINST.

2350
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 5: Ucla this probably closes seven or higher, again two teams

2351
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 5: heading in opposite. Directions illinois number one offense In Ken,

2352
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 5: pop number two in torvic over the last few, weeks

2353
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 5: AND ucla is trending down one in four ats in

2354
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 5: their last five home. Games Keaton wagler freshman sensation and

2355
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 5: The stoyakovic get the son Of pagia also a sensational

2356
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 5: talent for The Elnor, okay we were talking.

2357
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 3: About this game earlier and without heating any of the

2358
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 3: warnings that we all actually agreed to give. Out i'm

2359
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 3: taking the. CHEESE i could not help. MYSELF i got

2360
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 3: The Houston cougars defending home court minus six and a

2361
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 3: half Against Arizona. Wildcats copete is. OUT i think that's

2362
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 3: going to be the lynchpin For houston's. Success they are

2363
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 3: unstoppable at. Home they're thirteen and. Zero Gimme houston all day.

2364
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 3: LONG i couldn't help. Myself we move, On stay with college,

2365
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 3: Basketball Duke. Blue this really feels like a toss, up a.

2366
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 3: Pick'em so if you're gonna give me plus two and

2367
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 3: a half for The, Dukies i'll take it neutral. FLOOR

2368
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 3: i think this is going to be one of those litmus.

2369
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 3: TESTS i Think duke is going to play up in

2370
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 3: a huge way here because they're the team that really

2371
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 3: has something to prove. Here So i'll take the two

2372
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 3: and a half with The Duke Blue. Devils and Then TEAM.

2373
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Usa you, say you say you're getting a point and a.

2374
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 3: Half if you listen to hockey, experts they see this

2375
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 3: could be a goal scored win one way or the

2376
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 3: other For TEAM usa Or Team. Canada So i'm going

2377
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 3: with our boys in The, red white and, blue And

2378
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 3: i'm taking the point and a, half And i'm gonna

2379
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 3: be cheering them on right and early tomorrow.

2380
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: Morning let's go all, Right, Okay so if you're on

2381
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 2: a losing, streak any better will tell you bust out a, parlay,

2382
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 2: right that's the best way.

2383
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 3: You're a losing.

2384
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Streak that's, Right that's right. Exactly so that's What i'm

2385
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 2: gonna do. Today i'm gonna dare to be. Great so

2386
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 2: this is What i'm gonna. Do i'm gonna Take clemson

2387
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 2: on the money. Line they're Hosting Florida. STATE i like that.

2388
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Bet and Then i'm gonna take The Houston cougars to

2389
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 2: score the first twenty points in their game Against. Arizona

2390
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 2: it's minus one thirteen if you combine those two picks,

2391
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 2: together SO i like.

2392
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 3: It i'm gonna roll with.

2393
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 2: That it's pick number. One i'm gonna double. Down give

2394
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Me Cam, boozer WHO i really like as a, player

2395
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 2: give me under twenty one and a half. POINTS i

2396
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 2: just don't think he's gonna have as much success playing

2397
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: bully ball down low as he does against other. Teams

2398
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 2: he's just not gonna be able to do that Against.

2399
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 2: Michigan so give me under twenty one and a half

2400
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 2: points and another cure for a losing streak. Up pick

2401
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 2: a guy that you can't quite pronounce his name, correctly you,

2402
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 2: know Like. Lendeborg give me him The Michigan Big give

2403
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 2: me over seven and a half rebounds For.

2404
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 3: Lendeborg