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Speaker 2: It is between the string drink scene and you are

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Speaker 2: listening to Ice up here with Drinking from the iHeart

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Speaker 2: Radio Network for wherever you get the podcast. As always,

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed my silas Chad, who was doing the weird

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Speaker 2: hand gesture.

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Speaker 3: Checks. Is that you? Is that you?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Across the way? I can't. I don't remember what you

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Speaker 3: look like?

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Speaker 2: You seen me in a while I was imation in

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Speaker 2: the sell of France.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like a k a Ellinori.

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Speaker 3: I had. I feel like I had to import you

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Speaker 3: back to get you. Uh am.

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Speaker 2: I not entitled to a little R and R. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you are well. I lived my life yolo. Every month

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Speaker 2: I needed to get away and I was actually visiting

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Speaker 2: my in laws, you know. And it was so funny

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Speaker 2: because when I had posted I was in Illinois. I

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Speaker 2: got messages from like the boys because the TNA pay

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Speaker 2: per view was in Chicago, and everybody's like, are you

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Speaker 2: Are you at the pay per view? Are you coming

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Speaker 2: to the pay per view? I was like, no, I'm

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Speaker 2: not in Chicago. But it was so funny because people

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Speaker 2: actually thought I was there for the pay per view

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Speaker 2: and I was not, so uh you know, but it

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Speaker 2: was a little tease. So I think some of the

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Speaker 2: fans actually thought that too. But uh, I got a

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Speaker 2: very and I also got a phone call from Barbare

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Speaker 2: Dudley who said I was thirsty because I was putting

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Speaker 2: up peer people service. That's e called okay, which I

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Speaker 2: wasn't thirsty. It's here. Here's the thing. Socials are very

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Speaker 2: important for public figures, correct, absolutely, okay, Right, you promote yourself,

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Speaker 2: you promote your brand. So I would say, in a

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Speaker 2: normal month, for about twenty five days, I am just

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Speaker 2: a housewife, a mother. I walk around with a bun

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Speaker 2: in my hair, no makeup on, maybe a mumo or

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Speaker 2: a comfy clothes. Clothing you know, baggy sweatpants, big shirts,

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Speaker 2: very covered up. If I am out and dressed or

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Speaker 2: at the beach or at a pool, and I find

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to take a quick selfie and post it,

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Speaker 2: does that really make me thirsty?

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Speaker 3: Come on, bubba, depends how much water you need.

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Speaker 2: Come on. I just put up a couple photos and

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Speaker 2: guess what, my my socials blew up. People were digging it.

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Speaker 2: One picture got over three thousand lakes, which I was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: not bad for this.

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Speaker 3: Broad No No, not not bad at all. Actually, if you,

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Speaker 3: if you, if you'l ever so inclined to share with

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Speaker 3: the Eyes up here members on YouTube, Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's my booby picture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was out of see angle. You know it's

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Speaker 3: it's hanging down. It's like this, it's a good angle.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking pretty thin air, which is you know, it's

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Speaker 2: always a good thing because I'm kind of thick. But uh,

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Speaker 2: no filter needed on that one. The sunglasses really came

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Speaker 2: in handy, the cover, the dark circles, the bags, everything.

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Speaker 2: But it was a good vacation. I had a good time,

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Speaker 2: ate some good food. It was with family, you know,

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Speaker 2: hung out. I loved it, needed it. Kids had a

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Speaker 2: good time. It was great. Husband got to see old friends.

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Speaker 2: We saw uh we saw guys that were in our

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Speaker 2: wedding party that we never get to see.

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Speaker 3: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was just a lot of fun and I

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Speaker 2: like it. The ride was hillacious though. I will tell

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Speaker 2: you that being in that car get out after eight

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Speaker 2: hours the first day, Riga Mortis can't even walk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was he talking about this one too?

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Speaker 2: The girls, Yeah, the girls are out to play. There

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Speaker 2: you go, good time you join the sun. I was

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Speaker 2: enjoying the warm weather. It was hot as hell. They

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Speaker 2: had a lazy river where we were, so I kind

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Speaker 3: Any it was great, nice, just dodge all just dodge

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Speaker 3: all the pepee and all the particles and stuff of

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Speaker 3: the lazy river.

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Speaker 2: Very clean, extremely clean.

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Speaker 3: I can't go anywhere near those things. I love them,

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Speaker 2: Two hours I think I floated around that thing and

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Speaker 3: And you know, me kind kind of be particular about

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Speaker 2: Be I mean, I don't want to say exactly where

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Speaker 2: we were. But it wasn't a water park. It's not

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Speaker 2: a water park. But they happened to have three different

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Speaker 2: a lazy river. But it's not technically a water park.

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Speaker 3: Right, so it's not like A see a lot of

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Speaker 2: Those, Yeah, they added them to the facility. That we

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Speaker 2: were at right, but just it's gorgeous there, and it

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Speaker 2: just we had such a great time and it's nice

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Speaker 2: to see family that you can't see often. Know, it's

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Speaker 2: good for my husband to get back home and see everybody,

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Speaker 2: and it's nice for my kids to see her grandparents.

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Speaker 2: And it was just it was a fun trip, wholesome,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and almost did it running in the TNA pay

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Speaker 3: per view.

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Speaker 2: I was three hours away. Man, far for me.

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Speaker 3: I know everybody thinks just because you're in the state

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Speaker 2: Are you just illinoy? I got one text from one

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Speaker 2: of the guys, are you illinoy or Chicago? It's like, uh, Illinois,

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Speaker 2: Chicago is in Illinois, but I am not in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I had to make that very clear. So yeah, it

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Speaker 3: So funny stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But now I'm back and I am ready to

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Speaker 2: rock and roll. There. So many things are going on

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Speaker 2: this week right now, and we're going to get into them.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna debate them. We're a great probably debate them

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Speaker 2: because you are just ridiculous with your comments here, But

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Speaker 2: what what do you want to start with? We have

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Speaker 2: like four or five stories.

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Speaker 3: Breaks, breaking news, the singer, Yeah, let's play the stinger.

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Speaker 2: Hold on ready, you shouldn't have it ready, bro, you're

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Speaker 2: let's go brother, Oh my god, the worst.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like breaking news. This one story I wrote and

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Speaker 2: One we came, Oh my gosh, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: why what are you talking about? And then I read it.

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Speaker 2: Do you have the story or do you want me

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Speaker 2: to pull it up?

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Speaker 3: I do have the story, Let me pull it up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So two called Scorpio Apparently Uh was in an

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Speaker 2: some kind of altercation. He works as a security guard

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Speaker 2: at a gas station or rest stop.

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Speaker 3: Or loves Low's Loves Travel Stop in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Loves Travel Stop sounds like a gas station slash.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like one of those gas stations that has

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Speaker 3: the cages on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, no shame in working.

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Speaker 3: The cages.

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Speaker 2: Well who knows. But apparently I read TMZ today and

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Speaker 2: Uh he says this was in self defense because he's

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Speaker 2: a security guard, and apparently a man was lighting up

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Speaker 2: he lit that cigarette, but they started, I guess having words.

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Speaker 2: I guess the man doesn't know who Charlie really is,

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Speaker 2: as just called Scorpio he's badass. But they got in.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's a little bit of a scuffle, and

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Speaker 2: he pulled a knife, scorp and started stabbing the guy

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Speaker 2: in self defense. So it I guess because the guy tried.

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Speaker 2: He says, the guy tried to grab him and just

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Speaker 3: The guy was bleeding from his head, chest, buttocks. Scorpio

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Speaker 3: stabbed him in the ass.

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Speaker 2: Holy how many times was he stabbed? I mean he

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Speaker 2: was shanked, as they say, shanked. Not a funny matter.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to make light of this, but this

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Speaker 2: is this is crazy, Like I never would have dreamed

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Speaker 2: that he would just pull a knife and start stabbing someone.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, the guy saying that scorp is the aggressor,

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Speaker 2: scorp is saying it was self defense. He's facing two

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Speaker 2: felony charges, one counter first degree of sault and one

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Speaker 2: count of armed criminal action. So he bonded out, pled

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Speaker 2: not guilty, and next month we'll have his hearing. I'll

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Speaker 2: heavy stuff. Man, what's your take on this?

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Speaker 3: Do you know not funky? I've been around score a

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Speaker 3: couple of times. That's not funky. That's not that's not funky.

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Speaker 3: He was taken away in a flash. I could just

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Speaker 3: see with him, you know, he there definitely has to

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Speaker 3: be more to the story for him to be pushed,

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Speaker 3: I guess to that limit, and definitely to pull a knife.

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Speaker 3: There's there's absolutely got to be some footage in this

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Speaker 3: place that needs to be revealed to see why a

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Speaker 3: knife would have been pulled by, uh, you know, somebody

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Speaker 3: protecting the store. But you know, from my times around him,

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Speaker 3: he's always been super chill, so uh, I just I

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Speaker 3: can't imagine going any bit more than one to one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was trying to from the article, I

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Speaker 2: And it's like, if the guy just shoved him, why

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Speaker 2: the hell would he pull like a knife from a

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Speaker 2: shove or a push or something like that. The guy,

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Speaker 2: like you said, there has to be more that they're

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Speaker 2: not reporting for him to actually go to a knife,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and start stabbing somebody. So

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Speaker 2: this is a crazy story, and I'm sure more will

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Speaker 2: come out, And like you said, maybe there were you know,

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Speaker 2: cameras in the store that caught this that they have

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Speaker 2: to submit as evidence to show exactly what happened. But

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Speaker 2: holy crap, heavy stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I like, this guy was trying to smoke inside.

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Speaker 3: He's trying, he's breaking the rule of the store. So scoring.

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Speaker 2: So Scorp did the right thing in telling him, like

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Speaker 2: that's not cool. But what caused him to be so

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Speaker 2: violent towards this man? Something had to happen because, like

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Speaker 2: you said, I know Scorp. I shared a locker room

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Speaker 2: with him for years and he's been nothing but nice

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Speaker 2: and a gentleman. And he's very soft spoken. He's not

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Speaker 2: a loud mouth. At least he wasn't around me like

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard him, you know, cause a scene or

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Speaker 2: a ruckus or whatever. So just a weird situation, weird story,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully it comes to, you know, the maybe it'll

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Speaker 2: come to the footage and we'll see exactly what happened,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there's more to it that we know that

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Speaker 2: we don't know rather, and that will come to light.

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Speaker 2: So sad, sad day for scorp Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's funny, you know, thinking about him fairly recently.

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Speaker 3: I never would have thought he'd be in this kind

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Speaker 2: And just saw him security just sall him like a

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Speaker 2: month or two ago, and he was great, He looked great,

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Speaker 2: everything was. I think I saw him. When was it

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Speaker 3: I absolutely have.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very scary figures, especially when you look at

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Speaker 3: Now we can make fun of wrestlers being dead. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: whole group that was imploding. Is that storyline now gone

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00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: and he's a part of this Wyatt storyline? No, exactly,

433
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: But here's why I'm out. Watch it from the watch

434
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: it from the live perspective. People who are there live

435
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: and you watch them have to set the whole thing

436
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: up live. It's you're you're out. It's so it's so manufactured,

437
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: and it's only a TV product. This thing cannot be done.

438
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: Like you're saying, from an in ring perspective, it's there's

439
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: so much that has to get dressed up that it's

440
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: the mystique is not going to be able to be

441
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: anything but a television product. They they basically, you have

442
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: you watch this right from the head on, like person

443
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: filming a camera. They have to dress it so fast,

444
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: and then once they did the whole thing, looking at

445
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: the camera, they go, we're here right, lights go out. Oh,

446
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: they just don't walked away. They just walked away.

447
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: What do you want the sky?

448
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. You booked yourself into a corner.

449
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: What I don't know. Why were they in front of

450
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: the television in the arena then, why wasn't that done backstage?

451
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: Why should we see them? We shouldn't see them. They

452
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: should not be around. They're freaky, mysterious ghost people who

453
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: murdered people that stay. We shouldn't see them in the arena.

454
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be around. They kill people. They shouldn't be

455
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: going Hi, we're the arena cheer for us fireflies.

456
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Maybe they should have plants in the audience that they

457
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: just go and wreck.

458
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe because they kill people, murderers.

459
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

460
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous that they did too much, much, too

461
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: too much and revealing each one of those people. So

462
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: so the mystique is gone.

463
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe what you're let me see if I

464
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: can give you a scenario that you get behind. So

465
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: maybe they just brought out Uncle Howdy, right, they brought

466
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: they bring out Bo Dallas by himself, and before they

467
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: bring him out, they shoot the backstage segment. But they

468
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: don't reveal the other members yet. They just show carnage

469
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: and each week one member comes out behind Uncle Howdy

470
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: to the point where all of the family comes after

471
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: like four or five weeks.

472
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you would have. Would have been perfect.

473
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: That would have been such a great reveal. And again,

474
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: you know watching if you're watching it live, you're having

475
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: to watch this all on the screen in the arena.

476
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: But now you had to watch them dress the set

477
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 3: with the little outline of the door, right, you had

478
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: to watch him put that out right. Then you had

479
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: to watch Nicky Cross crawl yeah, through the door.

480
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so Nicky Cross was the first one that came out.

481
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: So I think the way I would do it is

482
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: I would reveal all the members and then Uncle Howdie last,

483
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: bring him out last, because you know he's going to

484
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: get the biggest pop. Right, So they had Nicky Cross

485
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: crawling first. She was the first one on the screen.

486
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Should have the first one, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

487
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: should have stopped.

488
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: It with her, she's the first reveal. Then bring out

489
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: the Buzzard or bring out was whoever they are, and

490
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: then have Bo Dallas come out last to complete the family.

491
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: I think that would have been the best because everybody's

492
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: waiting on. Everybody knows it's it's bo right, So if

493
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: he came out last, I think that would have been

494
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: a winner. I understand what you're saying, but I still

495
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: enjoyed it because it again.

496
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: It enjoyed it. It was well done.

497
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: I did. It took me out of thinking I'm watching

498
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: a wrestling show to thinking I'm watching a horror movie.

499
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm watching It's not wrestling, it's entertainment, you know it.

500
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: It just took me away from the wrestling bubble and

501
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: brought me into a different world. And that's what WWE wants.

502
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: They've said it a million times. We're you know, we're

503
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: not just a wrestling product. We're an entertainment company. Well,

504
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: they're entertaining me.

505
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: Then they apparently invaded the Pat McAfee show.

506
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: I heard, but I didn't see.

507
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: It was just a clip at the during an interview

508
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: that shut the lights off to the little spooky sound.

509
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: He's apparently dead. I guess here's another thing, though, here's

510
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: another reason why I'm out, and you're gonna have this.

511
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: You can have a completely other take on this. This

512
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: just might be my old school mind of you know,

513
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: being stuck as an old fan and you know kfe

514
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: being what it is, and and and you can be

515
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: completely on the other side of this this surface right,

516
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: hang on, let me this surface right after raw? And

517
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: I think this is a complete mystique killer. This guy

518
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: took a picture with them at what a Burger? Right

519
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: after raw. Now don't you think these guys should say

520
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: no pictures? H Okay, this as a group after all

521
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: that crap, take say no pictures. You can be that's

522
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: not mean.

523
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, this is a touchy situation here because number one,

524
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: you want to be good to the fans. I get it.

525
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: I think the majority of the fans are smart enough

526
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: to know that they're not really the characters that they play,

527
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: especially in a cartoons type of way. Okay, so they're

528
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: out eating so I understand this. But for the gimmick

529
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: because it just happened, this isn't good, you know what

530
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean? Because they're all revealed and now it's all

531
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: over socials anyway who they are. But you know, you

532
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: put a picture up of the creepy five of them

533
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: and then this picture gets up next to way, it's like, oh,

534
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: they're just wrestlers playing the role. But we all know that, right,

535
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: but it does take away some of the aura that

536
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: it had. But what are you gonna do? Listen, it's

537
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: real life. People have to go eat and people are

538
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: good to their fans, so saying no it's kind of Yeah,

539
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: saying no is kind of a dick move. But on

540
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: the other hand, it's like, look, how look how sweet

541
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: and lovable they all look in that picture.

542
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: They look really nice. But I'm thinking they do they

543
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: look and you went up to uh, you know, nay, if.

544
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: I wrestle you last night. If I wrestled you last

545
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: night right after we take a picture of us standing

546
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: together in the locker room. That was great, Thanks so much.

547
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: That's how socials are these days. There is no K

548
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: eight is dead. We all know that. Old timers try

549
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: to keep it alive. It's dead, you know, as much

550
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: as you might try. What are you gonna do? Those

551
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: days are over?

552
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: So my thought is I liked how they did it.

553
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: I think presentation everything a plus, but they completely blew

554
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: their wad way too early, and there's no place else

555
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: to go with it. Everything else is going to be corny,

556
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: and I'm sure they'll do some magical crazy stuff and

557
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, whatever, but okay, they just murdered twenty five people,

558
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: and to me, there should be a warrant out for

559
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: Uncle Howdie's arrest. In WWE storyline world, the Big Boss

560
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: man uh has has a son that should be coming

561
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: to arrest the Wyatt family, you know what I mean, Like,

562
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: it's so ridiculous.

563
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna allow go on next week to do this podcast.

564
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna be sitting there with a bullet hole

565
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: in your head.

566
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, they're gonna be They're gonna come in. The

567
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: Wyatt six are gonna come and grab you.

568
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: Get you?

569
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: No.

570
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: I like my idea. I think they you know, as

571
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: much as I loved what I saw, I think they

572
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: should have stopped it with the sister Abigail crawling and

573
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: just let it be her. And then each week she

574
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: crawls out and somebody else pops up behind her to

575
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: where it's, you know, four or five weeks down the line,

576
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: then go Dallas appears. I think that got a monster.

577
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: Are they each taking out one person and it's like

578
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: those people become the ones that go against that group you.

579
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: Know as well?

580
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that becomes like series kind of exactly. And

581
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: that's how long you could have built that up, right.

582
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: I think you and I should be bookers.

583
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: Give us the book, you know it would have been.

584
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 2: I am excited to see what happens because the product, again,

585
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: production wise, this was freaking awesome looking. But I don't

586
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: want them killing people. Hurting them, yes, killing them. Bullet

587
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: holes in the head and I don't know what that was,

588
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: but that was. It was gruesome. It looked like a murders.

589
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 3: Be on TV for the next se year and watch,

590
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: he'll be wrestling. Yeah, he'll be. It's a little band

591
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: aid on his head. And now think about this. You've

592
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: heard me saying I've been seeing the praises of the

593
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: Bloodline storyline, and I still put it over what I

594
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: saw on Monday from what I saw Friday because it

595
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: just was too much, too soon.

596
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well you heard it here, guys.

597
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: Please, I want you, if you want, I want to

598
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: hear everything you have to say, whether you hate it

599
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: what I said or you love with France. I want

600
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: to hear it.

601
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Them because we're not as different as you think we are.

602
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: We did agree, We came to an agreement in the middle.

603
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: I think we both agree on the way. It was

604
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: a little rushed but I just just the overall gimmick

605
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: I love. I will say that I am a fan

606
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: and I am excited to see what they do next,

607
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: because how do you top something like that, you know,

608
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: like you said, it was rushed, it was too much

609
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: at one time. How do you top it? What do

610
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: you do? So I'm excited to see where they go

611
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: with it.

612
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you another guy that you're excited for, and

613
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: that is Joe Hendry. I am.

614
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about and Grace with the TNA

615
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: ww nxteam crossover, and now Joe did it, and I

616
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: was happy to see. When I go on my socials,

617
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: he was following me on both ig and Twitter, so

618
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: I followed him right back because I don't know, I

619
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: get a little bit of the mark in me. I

620
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: get a kick out of when the younger kids follow me,

621
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: the younger guys, and I don't know how old Yo is,

622
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: but he looks like a young guy to me. But

623
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: I like when they follow me because it makes me

624
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: feel important still in the business. But interesting fact, Wwe

625
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: put out a tweet like five days ago and say

626
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: his name and he appears Joe Henry is here for

627
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: the Battle Royal I watched his segment and the place

628
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: went nuts. And according to what I read, his debut

629
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: is now WWE's most viewed ex post of the year.

630
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

631
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. He got seventeen million views on X

632
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: or Twitter, whatever you want to call it, fifteen thousand reposts,

633
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: three point eight thousand quotes, one hundred and four thousand likes,

634
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: and eight point two thousand bookmarks for that. For the

635
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: WWE's tweet about him, that's incredible. When he came out,

636
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: the place went nuts. So this crossover thing, it has

637
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: legs to it. It's it. It's good business, man. Have

638
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: you seen it?

639
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: I did. I watched that. I watched the clip on X.

640
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. It's like what else? Who else is

641
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: going to come over? Frankie Kazarian made an appearance.

642
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Which was cool too. That's that's a long time coming

643
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: for him because he only had a cup of coffee.

644
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Sure in WWE under the events.

645
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this is good for the wrestling business.

646
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Good stuff, and I'm here for it. I love this

647
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, you know.

648
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: Again criticized Who's booking Henry because he was immediately eliminated. Okay,

649
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: but again, come on, they're not going to put over

650
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: the talent exact.

651
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: Still cool to see somebody from another again, it goes

652
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: to the forbidden door, you know, somebody from another promotion

653
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: crossing over working for the competition. I love that because

654
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen next and and

655
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: and it's giving TNA such a rub, which I love

656
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: too because a TNA, I'm telling you, they're e c

657
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: ub They're the little engine that could now and they're

658
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: starting to make their Even though they've been on TV forever,

659
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: they're still not to where ww E or AW is,

660
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: you know, production wise, building wise, talent wise. They're there

661
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: because they their talent is awesome and they put on

662
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: great shows, but they're just not drawing. And and again

663
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: they're working in smaller buildings, so you know they're doing

664
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: they're doing well for what they're working with. But man,

665
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: I I can see them going to the next level,

666
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: and I love it.

667
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: They always had the core fan bit, Yeah, for sure,

668
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: always had a core group. I mean I back in

669
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: the day. You know when you work their shows in

670
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: the beginning that they had a core group even when

671
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: they first started, but a few years in even in

672
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: the Northeast they had a good group of fans. They

673
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: just they have the ability to pick the right arenas

674
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: or or venues or whatever you want to call them.

675
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: That's the smart part of TNA's business model, that right venues.

676
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: And and that goes back to what I said about

677
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: ae W. They're picking these huge venues and not filling them.

678
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: And it's just like, man, you know, you can pick

679
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: a four or five thousand seed arena and it would

680
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: blow the roof off the house. You know what I'm saying. Now,

681
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: the pay per views, from what I've seen for AW,

682
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: the pay per views are packed, not a seat in

683
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: the building that was empty. But I know for TV

684
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: they were having some trouble filling the buildings. Now I

685
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing these days, but you know

686
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: the pictures floating around with the empty sides and all

687
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, TNA's doing it right. You know,

688
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: you work in smaller buildings, you fill it to capacity

689
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: and you put on a hell of a show, and

690
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: that's the way you grow. So I love I love

691
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: the crossover. I love that they're giving talent opportunities to

692
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: be seen by you know, other fans that might not

693
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: know who Joe Hendry is because they don't watch TNA.

694
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: Apparently they all do because he got a great response.

695
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, it opened you up

696
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: to a new market and new fans and that's so exciting,

697
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: So very happy for them, and I hope it continues.

698
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: It's got a good thing going. He does this thing

699
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: with the theme songs and yeah.

700
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: I'd love to see that. That's so funny.

701
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: Saw one he did from years ago. I mean, he

702
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: is clever. He did one with a big show's theme Okay,

703
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Big Joe, but it was the recreation of the whole

704
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: video of Big Weird. Now it was a scan like

705
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: it was just his face and then it scanned into

706
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: his face and then it was literally the recreation of

707
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: like the helicopter going past his face. Well it's Big Joe. Yeah,

708
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: it was great. That was very well done.

709
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Out of the box. I love that kind of stuff,

710
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: very creative. So hats off to them, And again, I

711
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: just hope it continues because it's it's good for the

712
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: business as a whole, you know. And I he ol

713
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: was it Bubba again? I'm putting Bubba over big time.

714
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: But he put a tweet out there that said, what

715
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: kind of wrestling fan are you if you're just you know,

716
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: being negative about I'm don't quote me because I'm not

717
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: one hundred verbatim on this, but are you really a

718
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: wrestling fan if if you're shitting on a promotion or

719
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: shitting on people and like just love the business?

720
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: He said that with us. He actually said that on.

721
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: Airwork here, but I just read it like, yes, I saw.

722
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: That too, but I mean to go back, but it

723
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: was right to plug our episode with Bubba, our first

724
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: iHeart episode. He literally said that quote with.

725
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's true, it's true, like you know, just support.

726
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: Why do you have to always bring the negative out?

727
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Just support? I mean, you know, if you're a broadcaster

728
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: like we are, you have to like nitpick a little bit,

729
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: but overall, you know, I think I'm positive for the

730
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: most part, and I just want everybody to succeed because

731
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, again, I have a lot of friends in

732
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: this business and trying to feed their families. And if

733
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: the business is thriving, then the boys are thriving, and

734
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: that's what you want to see. So I don't know,

735
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: just my two cents on it.

736
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: No, I agree to an extent. You know, there's I

737
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: mean you when you find something you just don't like

738
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: you obviously, you know you can say it. But the

739
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: people online just it's they go way too far. It

740
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: goes beyond having a conversation with your buddy and just

741
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: voicing your displeasure for a booking angle as you're having

742
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: a couple of drinks. I mean, the online people are

743
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: just obsessive and it's out of control. But uh, I mean,

744
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's the way of the beast. Now,

745
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: that's the unfortunate part.

746
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: But be a human being.

747
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's pretty much it, really, you know, But

748
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: how about going from somebody that everyone likes to somebody

749
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: that people don't really like? Right now?

750
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so you're talking about Goldberg, Obirg. So I

751
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: you know, we started a little bit on the WCW

752
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: Who Killed WCW, And we did a whole show about

753
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: the first episode and you kind of tapped out, and

754
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: I get it. It's it's fine. I started watching episode

755
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: two and it was basically Goldberg versus the WCW locker

756
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: Room is the take that I got watching it, and

757
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: pretty much it was just the boys saying, here was

758
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: a guy who just came in didn't pay his dues,

759
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: didn't give a shit if he hurt people or not,

760
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: and thought it was real and was acting like he

761
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: was on the football field when he was doing like

762
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: his his spears and his jackhammer and all this stuff.

763
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: He was legit hurting people. And they were kind of

764
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: saying that he did not get the business, and you know,

765
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: being pushed to the moon so early on and not

766
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: paying a single due. A lot of the guys had

767
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: a bad taste in their mouth about him, and they

768
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: interviewed several of the boys, and then they interviewed Goldberg,

769
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: who basically says, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks,

770
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: and was very proud of himself and what he accomplished

771
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: in the business. So were you a fan of Goldberg?

772
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Not really? Okay, no, not my style. And I was

773
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: in Madison Square Garden at Monday Night Raw, the night

774
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: Goldberg debuted on Nitro, and we actually had Nitro on

775
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: in the skybox at Madison Square Garden and we were

776
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: watching it saying, who is this Steve Austin ripoff? Because

777
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: of the black trunks and the shaved head and the

778
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: go team and go this guy is a Steve Austin ripoff.

779
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: So watch excuse me one second. That came from Kevin Sullivan.

780
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh, he said that.

781
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that, and he said he I think

782
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: it was who was It wasn't Tyson. He was looking

783
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: at a boxer and I don't know if it was Tyson.

784
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember. In the interview, but he says black trunks.

785
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: He said, that's what I wanted for Goldberg, to just

786
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: be a normal guy.

787
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we watched it and said, this is Austin

788
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: on WCW, but we watched them matterally. Wow, he killed

789
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: the guy and I just never got into it. Just

790
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: that wasn't the kind of guy I liked. So, I mean,

791
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 3: obviously I was an nWo fan in WCW, so he

792
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be a guy I got behind, but

793
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: never got into. Goldberg just was even in WWE. Just

794
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: never my cup of tea.

795
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well I wasn't the locker rooms cup of tea either,

796
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: because they all kind of shit on him.

797
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: So the nWo did not like Goldberg.

798
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: I guess not, but they were like, you know what,

799
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: but hang on.

800
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to interrupt, but Paul and Dash talked about

801
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: and shoot interviews in the past. They tried with Goldberg.

802
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: They tried in the beginning to help the guy out,

803
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: Like Scott Hall said, he tried to make him on

804
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: the road with him and you know, introduce him to

805
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: certain people, yeah, and try to get him, you know,

806
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: maybe to go to their side a little bit. But

807
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: Goldberg just was a loner and just didn't want anything

808
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: to do with it and did his own thing. But

809
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: got people in his head that I guessed fed the

810
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: beast and that was the Goldberg beast. And that's where

811
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: he just went on his own path and was like

812
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: I'm the man, give me the money, and I don't

813
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: want anything to do with anybody.

814
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: But you would think him starting at the power plant, right,

815
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: and kind of training there a little bit, not much,

816
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: but just enough to learn his two or three moves, right,

817
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: you would think someone would smarten them up and say, listen,

818
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: this is a work. We're not here to hurt people.

819
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: The boys were legit saying he was hurting people, and

820
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: like Nash was one of them, and he's like, come on, man,

821
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: you know, did he not get the memo Like this

822
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: isn't real, this isn't football. You're not legitimately tackling people,

823
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, So I don't know, Like I've always been taught,

824
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: you protect the person that you're working with.

825
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well those guys at the power Plant, you know,

826
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: were out for blood, So I'm not surprised that I

827
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: don't get really tight. They didn't tighten him up because

828
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you had mister Wonderful down there, you had

829
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 3: the Sarge Buddy Lee Parker, who was Goldberg's main trainer

830
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: down there, and what's his name, Jody Hamilton was down

831
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: there as well. These guys, you know, what do they

832
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: care about, you know, anything but stiff, So they the

833
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: power Plant was known for running guys off. But the

834
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: power Plant was known for running guys off because they

835
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: were way too hard on the training aspect. So Goldberg

836
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: maybe he was taught, Okay, be stiff and we're fine

837
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: with that. So when he got up there, he just

838
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: ran over people. Yeah, I mean that was the whole thing.

839
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: Did they talk about William regal on there with him?

840
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I heard that. It could have, but

841
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: I I didn't. I don't recall that. I just know

842
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: if somebody hurts you in the ring, when you go

843
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: to the back, that's the first thing you're gonna hear

844
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: or you're gonna get the iggy in the ring, like

845
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: knock it off, or you're going to get a receipt,

846
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I'm surprised somebody didn't

847
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: just beat the shit out of them. Okay, well they

848
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: didn't talk, they didn't talk about that fight.

849
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it basically got him fired because they

850
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: thought that, you know, it was making him look bad

851
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: when he's supposed to just run him over. And Regal

852
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: is like, screw that, a fighting back in no way

853
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: run over me.

854
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: Oh so he did it as a shoot in the ring,

855
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.

856
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm going to go back at you,

857
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: and he didn't know what to do, so, uh, Regal

858
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: just went back at him.

859
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: See it's it's just I don't know. I feel like

860
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: people like that have no place in the business. Despite

861
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: what you're taught. If somebody tells you lighten up, you're

862
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: not there to hurt somebody. You're there to make each

863
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: other look good and to make money. And if I'm

864
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: jobbing to him, okay, I'll take your three moves, but

865
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: you don't have to kill me to make it look good.

866
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: If I'm a good worker and I can sell for you.

867
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: Why do you have to hurt me?

868
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: Right?

869
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: So in that aspect, I don't have that much respect

870
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: for him if he was told not to do it

871
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: but kept doing it, Like who does that?

872
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: You know? Shane were Goldberg a handful of times on

873
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: a couple of shows, and I don't think he really

874
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: had that hard of a time with them. But I

875
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: don't think it was easy either. But they've they had

876
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: a couple of TV matches from what I remember, but

877
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: the big one with Goldberg is Brett Hart, and I'll

878
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 3: bring up the quote Brett Hart obviously ended Brett Hart's

879
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: career with the kick at I think it was a

880
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: starcade show. They had a few that the two of

881
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: them should never have been in the ring together. It's

882
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: clashing styles. It just to me, it's not a match

883
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: that I would want to go out of my way

884
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: to see a brawler like Goldberg and a tech nicol

885
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: wrestler like Brett. But Goldberg had the platform to finally respond,

886
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: and this was his quote if you want to read it.

887
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: The Brett Hart thing saddens me as a human being,

888
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: first and foremost, I would never wish Ill Will upon

889
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: any opponent or anyone like that. To have an accident

890
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: like that happen and end someone's career, especially someone who's

891
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: one of the best there ever was one hundred percent,

892
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: it sucks. I'm not asking anyone to understand it. I'm

893
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: just saying, just leave me alone, dude. It is what

894
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: it is. Come on, man, I love you, Brett. Don't

895
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: be such a prick. That's all.

896
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: Grow up, wow, because he just Brett kills him every interview,

897
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: he just kills him.

898
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Did he have to do those last two lines?

899
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Don't be such a pretty well. I mean, you know,

900
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: as much as I love Brett Hart, I will side

901
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 3: with Brett Hart every day of the week. Brett kills

902
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: him every chance he gets. He calls him, you know,

903
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: he calls him an idiot, says he sucks, says he

904
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: was the worst wrestler of all time safe in the ring,

905
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: and sends he was unsafe. I mean, Brett kills him

906
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: a chance he gets it. This was Goldberg's response, and

907
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: he just wanted to call him. Yeah, okay, I mean

908
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: that's just that's his prerogative.

909
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: Wow. I don't know. It's it's hard when you have

910
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: everybody shooting against you. Now you could some could say, oh,

911
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: the locker room was jealous because he was being pushed

912
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: to the moon and they weren't. But you know what

913
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 2: they're saying is true. If if people are coming back

914
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: hurt and you can't separate real life from fantasy, you

915
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to get

916
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: in the ring with someone who's legitimately gonna hurt me.

917
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to work with someone like that. And

918
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: that's not being a pussy. That is just you know,

919
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: looking out for your own wellbeing because you and I

920
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: both know that when you enter that ring, anything could happen.

921
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: People's career have thened, people have died in the ring

922
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: for stupid accidents, and you know, things that have gone wrong,

923
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: and people are paralyzed, and you know, somebody working carelessly

924
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: and just beating people up just for the hell of it.

925
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: Not cool. That's just my take. I protect each other.

926
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess just what? Never a Goldberg fan, So yeah,

927
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: I guess it's never interested me. You know the one

928
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 3: when he beat Hogan and Scott Hall on the one

929
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: night to win the title. Everybody knew he was gonna

930
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: win the belt. I did watch that show and it

931
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: had interest, but I was rooting for Scott Hall, and

932
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: because I one of those guys, I just did not

933
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: want to see him as the champ.

934
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: He just came off as a little arrogant, like you

935
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: don't like it's screw you. I don't care. He didn't care.

936
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not his fault. He was pushed

937
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: to the moon. He looked like a million bucks, you know,

938
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: and he was over. You can't take that away from him.

939
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: The part that I don't like is, you know, when

940
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: people are saying he was legitimately hurting people in the ring,

941
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: I don't respect that. And they let him continue to

942
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: do that week after week, you know.

943
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Bobby Heenan says in one of his old shoot

944
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: interviews that that was the reason he said WCW died

945
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: is because whoever decided to beat Bill Goldberg was the

946
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: worst decision they could have made. Because one reason, and

947
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 3: this is I think this is very interesting. Goldberg's Jewish

948
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: and Jewish entertainers are a very rare thing to come by,

949
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: and how could be more marketable than a Jewish guy

950
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: like Goldberg? And I think he's right, but throw him

951
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: into the argument of who killed WCW, and I have

952
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: to piggyback off that and say, who cares?

953
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: You don't care?

954
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: Who cares? I love Bobby Heenen. That interview was twenty

955
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: two years old. Wow, I'm so done with w CWY.

956
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: Funny well, and then let's get really over quickly. A

957
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: big rumor going around the internet these days is Shane McMahon,

958
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: who is my favorite McMahon of all time. I have

959
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: to put that over. There are talks that he reached

960
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: out to Talent in aew about working for them. Now,

961
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: how legit is this story? Do we even know Jim Ross?

962
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a quote floating around. Okay, it's a quote

963
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: from Conrad Thompson, right that says, there's a friend of ours.

964
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say their name, but he went out of

965
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: his way to text me and say, hey, that's not

966
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: as crazy as you think. I know for sure that

967
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: Shane McMahon has reached out to wrestlers on the AW

968
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: roster to at least hypothetically discussed the idea. Now, now

969
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: you could speculate who that friend is.

970
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who that friend is. Who do

971
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: you think it is?

972
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 3: I can speculate that that friend might have a red

973
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: face similar to mine, and he might love you. Bruce Pritchard,

974
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: who else is going to say a friend of theirs

975
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: that he shouldn't say their name?

976
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: But but does Bruce have any ties with A He

977
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: doesn't have any ties with AW.

978
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: He has ties with Shane McMahon.

979
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But Seane McMahon reached out to people in a

980
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: w directly.

981
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: I thought this was meaning that they talking to somebody

982
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: that talked to Shane McMahon.

983
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: I took it as Shane reached out to talent. What

984
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: I read was he reached out to talent that worked

985
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: for AW about them.

986
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: I took it as that it was Shane talking to

987
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: somebody that talked to Shane that reached out to the.

988
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: Well, maybe we're both correct, but anyway, this is mind

989
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: blowing because if that were to happen, this would be

990
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: such a snack in the face to the McMahon family.

991
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: I feel, even though Vince has nothing to do with

992
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: it anymore. You think of a McMahon and you think

993
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: of WWE for life, You would never think of a

994
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: McMahon crossing over and appearing on somebody else's TV. At

995
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: least I wouldn't. I would never think that, although if

996
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: it happened, I would pop like a little schoolgirl, not

997
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: gonna lie. That would be the biggest thing to happen

998
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: in years.

999
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: In my opinion, that would supersede Punk going back to

1000
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: w Please it makes Punk, Yeah, makes I think honestly, No,

1001
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: you know what that could supersede How about Brett going

1002
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: back to WWE.

1003
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: No, this is bigger than anyone, any talent anything, because

1004
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: he's a McMahon.

1005
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: All right, how about this. It's better than Vincic Man

1006
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: being out of WWE.

1007
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Vince McMahon's scandals. We knew his one foot

1008
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: without the door. I mean he can't really, they can't

1009
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: show he can't show face and work for that company

1010
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: with all that's going on. So so having a McMahon

1011
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: cross over to the competition who is AW, Whether they

1012
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: want to admit it or not, that's their biggest competition

1013
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: right now. Having Shee McMahon work for AW would be

1014
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: monumental In my opinion. I would love to see it.

1015
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: And people are saying, well, he's not going to do

1016
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: it because you know of his injuries in the past.

1017
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to wrestle. He could just go over

1018
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: there cut a promo. He can manage someone, he can

1019
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: be like, you know, the general manager of the company.

1020
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: There are so many things he could do. He could

1021
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: do commentary. Just his presence on somebody else's TV would

1022
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: blow the internet up. And I would I would have

1023
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: to watch that, would I think? Make me watch because

1024
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: I would have to see it live.

1025
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: They may break six hundred thousand viewers if sha mcma.

1026
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: I think they would break a million viewers.

1027
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: Oh, because they're ratings.

1028
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's not shoot on them. And that's going to

1029
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: be the one that we will come after you with

1030
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: a ven. I'm gonna make them listen to this whole segment,

1031
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: you know. But how cool would that be to see Shane?

1032
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: I would, man, I'm here for it. I would love

1033
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: to see that. But yeah, that and and nothing else

1034
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: has come of it yet. So that's a developing story

1035
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: as well, so we'll see what happens. But uh, well,

1036
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: chocked full of goodness. This episode was lots to discuss,

1037
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: lots of YouTube clips.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, yeah, so good times.

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