1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, since the world's most dangerous moning to show to 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Charlamage and God Jess Hilarious. DJ NBA is 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: out today, but we have a special guest, my partner, 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: doctor Alfie Breeland Noble. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Good morning, doctor, Alfare how you feeling. I'm good. I'm good. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm here with y'all. What could be better? 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we just had another successful mental Wealth export. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it was a fifth, fifth annual. It was awesome. 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: It was such a wonderful I'm gonna tell you this, Newark. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: I love Newark. That audience, girl, the energy, they were 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: like locked in and they were paying attention and they 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: were responsive and they were just so kind and so 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I loved that we were in Newark and that we 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: went there this year. The venue was fantastic, New Jersey 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: Institute of Technology. Everybody there was really cool. So it 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: was fantastic. 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. What are some of the things that you took away? 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Like the people open up to you about certain things. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: They always do. Like I ended up with like a 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: line of people because I think people be trying to 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: get free therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think what 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: I learned was that there's so much need out there, 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: and I learned a lot. My son was on stage 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: at one point. I learned a lot from Jason Wilson. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from a lot of the different 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: people who were on stage. But I think the main 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: thing I learned was that Black people actually do want healing. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: Right. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: People act like we just out here wilding and like 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: we don't care about our mental health and we don't 32 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: care to take care of ourselves, but we do, like, 33 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's not on this hustle grind, push through, 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, at all cost type of culture. So what 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I saw in people was a real 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: hunger and desire to get tools to help them with 37 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: their mental health. I also learned, I mean I knew this, 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: but the people love Charlotmagne and they really appreciate and 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: respect what he's trying to do with putting these resources 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: out into the community and talking about his own mental health. 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: And I think the final thing I learned is that 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: was just reinforced for me, was how loving Black people are. 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: We are some loving wealth people, and I just felt 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: so much positive energy at that event. Met so many 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: wonderful people whom I hadn't met before whom I admired 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: from Afar. And I have to say this, Deontay Wilder 47 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: is the nicest. That brother is a sweetheart. He was 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: just a doll. And so it was really wonderful to 49 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: be able to be in that space and have people 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: come donate their time to us and take care of people. 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: And again the Newark folks shouts out to Newark because 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: those are some good people. 53 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Newark, man. You know, my father lived 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: in Newark for many, many, many years. Oh yeah, I 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: got a lot of family in Newark who thought them 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Kelvy's in Newark. But the interesting thing about Deontae, well 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: two things. I feel like the Mental Health Expo is 58 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: a is a safe space, right and I think it's 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: more important now than ever for black people to create 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: spaces where we can feel safe. Yes, where we can 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: you know, experience joy and where we can be informed. 62 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Yes. 63 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: And man, when you see Deontay Wilder sit on that 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: stage and open up like this is the former heavyweight 65 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: champion of the world literally knocks people out for a living. 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: For him to open up and you know, talk about 67 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, his experiences and the things that he's been 68 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: through and you know how hurt and betrayed you know, 69 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: he's felt throughout his life, and how vulnerable he's how 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: vulnerable he was. That was man that let a lot 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: of people, that a lot a lot of people let 72 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: their guard down. 73 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I think so, and I, you know, I was just 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: so shocked by how open and transparent he was about 75 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: who's hurt him in his life. I heard him talk 76 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: about people who were close to him and his family, 77 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you can see the pain in his 78 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: eyes about like having to walk through that terrain and 79 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of figure that stuff out. And he's not alone, 80 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: right because I look at you all and what you've 81 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: been able to achieve in your lives, and I would 82 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: never speculate, but I can only imagine how difficult it 83 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: would be to have the people who are closest to you. 84 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, people got their hands out. You know, I 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, some folks are struggling, but like 86 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: people don't sometimes give their loved ones the opportunity to 87 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: sort of own their power and be in their space 88 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: without wanting something. I'm not saying people always do that, 89 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: but I would imagine and that what you really want 90 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: just be happy for me, you know what I'm saying, like, 91 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: be happy for me and support me and lift me 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: up and don't ask me for a whole bunch of stuff. 93 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, people need help, and I 94 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: think people like Deontay will probably are very open to 95 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: helping folks. But it's just the idea that some folks 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: don't get the opportunity to enjoy what they built because 97 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: they're struggling with these things sort of pulling it there, 98 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that duality is has 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: got to be hard. So I just really appreciate how 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: transparent he was so people can understand, Like I've heard 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige say this, just because we have a lot, 102 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, doesn't mean that we don't 103 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: have struggles. And he was able to share that with people. 104 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: And it's a big responsibility to come with having a lot, 105 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I don't live the 106 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: same yas I used to. You know, I have more 107 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: kids than I used to. You know, I have a 108 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: whole nother life. You know that I'm working towards building 109 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: and then a lot of times all people like Deonce 110 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: and myself, yeah, you know, I guess you know, well, 111 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: one it's just call me and ask how I'm yep, 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: because I'm not always okay yep, you know what I mean. 113 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: And although you know, I don't trust people enough to 114 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: just open up. 115 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: Ye. 116 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Also I don't really. 117 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Have a lot of people that's like, oh you good, yep, 118 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: you are right, Oh you look down today? 119 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: What's up? Like you know? Like that matters? Yes. And 120 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: so when you say. 121 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: It reminded you Saturday that black people are the most 122 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: loving people. We are, we really are, and a lot 123 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: of times were standing our own way of that too. 124 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: That's such a good point. Like I love that you 125 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: said sometimes you just want somebody to check on you. 126 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: It can't always be that people like you all are 127 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: out here in the public eye and everybody's eyes are 128 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: focused on you, and the assumption is that you don't struggle, 129 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: or that you don't have things that you worry about, 130 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Or you don't have things 131 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: that you're trying to work through. And so the idea, 132 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: particularly for us as sisters, the idea that we like 133 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: are the back when I feel like Atlas, I was 134 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: a classics miner in undergrad at Howard, like we got 135 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the world on our backs and we just kind of 136 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: bent over and we're not you know what I mean. 137 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: And I think what that feeds is this notion that 138 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to put stuff down and be vulnerable, 139 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: allow ourselves to rest. Shouts out to the sister at 140 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the NAP Ministry where she talks about rest is resistance, 141 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: and so I love that you brought up this point 142 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: of taking care of yourself. You didn't say it in 143 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: this way, but part of how you take care of 144 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: yourself is you look for those spaces and look for 145 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: those people who gonna check in on you. That's where 146 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: you get to like let your hair down a little bit. 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: That's where you get to not be just with the mess. 148 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: And my news is real. I told you I was 149 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: a fan. 150 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. 151 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: You get to put that down like you deserve to 152 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: put that down too. And I love watching you and 153 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: your little boy, the oldest one on socials and it 154 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: just tickles me because he's the life on He's adorable, 155 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: but he needs to see mommy have some rest in 156 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: peace too, because that teaches him how to treat the 157 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: women in his life as he grows up. Yeah, yeah, 158 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: you know. 159 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: You mentioned how And recently Kamala Harris said losing the 160 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: election caused her to grieve in a way that was 161 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: similar to the way she grieved the loss of her mother. 162 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: Can can you speak to what that might have meant 163 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: from a clinical perspective, because. 164 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: People act like they hear like what you mean, Like losing. 165 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: The election felt like your mother died, Like as if 166 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: the two couldn't both be you know, impactful to cause 167 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: that level of grief. 168 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I think about grief, you know, people have 169 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: different theories. There's seven stages of grief. There's five stages 170 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: of grief. Grief is really just our way. Her and 171 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: the actor I think his name was, Andrew Garfield play 172 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: Spider Man say once that grief is just your way 173 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: of expressing all the love that you have for someone 174 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: that you didn't get to express when they were alive. 175 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, ooh, that's like hit me in 176 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: the heart. And I think the idea of grief is 177 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: really just processing loss, right. Loss is not just a 178 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: human Loss can be anything. Loss can be a relationship, 179 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: loss can be you know, losing a love. When I 180 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: lost my mom, actually nineteen years ago to about a 181 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: month ago, it was nineteen years and my sorority sister 182 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: and my fellow hu By one day, I'm we'll meet 183 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: that sister. I love big sister, General Kamala Harris. And 184 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I think if you think about what she put into 185 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and seven days, right when you think about 186 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: what she had to endure, the things that she was 187 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: not allowed to say, the ways in which she was 188 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: not permitted to be her full self because she was 189 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: running for office, you know, I think when you think 190 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: about carrying all of that, that is heavy. And to 191 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: go through all of that at the highest level on 192 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: an international stage with all these eyes on you, and 193 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: then to lose to who she lost to in the 194 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: way that she lost. We're just gonna keep it real. 195 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: That's heavy and that's hard. And so I can actually 196 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: understand her grieving that because that's the chapter of her 197 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: life that she was thrust into that maybe she wasn't 198 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: expecting and she has to put that down. And so 199 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: anytime you have to put something down like that, we 200 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: should anticipate that that separation, that that void is going 201 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: to be there. And that's what grief is. It is 202 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: processing and making sense of what did I lose, how 203 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: did I lose it? And what am I going to 204 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: fill that space in my heart with now that that 205 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: is going. So it makes total sense to me that 206 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: she would say that, what. 207 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: What a mental health What do you think? 208 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 209 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: Do you think mental health initiatives are being adequately funded? 210 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Because I noticed this weekend, you know, we had the 211 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Mental Health Flexible, but I saw like, you know, two 212 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: or three other events going on. I know, and that's 213 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: great because you was World Mental Health theyre Friday Roger 214 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Pinson Aravant going on and what was the other ones? 215 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: You went to? Project Healthy Minds had an event and 216 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: I was at with Kate Spade for World Mental Health 217 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Day Women's Mental Health. 218 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: Which I think is great that all these different events 219 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: are happening. But do you think mental health initiatives are 220 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: being adequately funded? 221 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: No? Absolutely not, because you have too many people out 222 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: there who don't have access to care. And what people 223 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: will always argue is that it's money. Some of it 224 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: is money, but some of it is we don't have 225 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: enough providers who look like us. Right I'm talking about 226 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: black folks right now? Are the people of color to 227 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: allow people to look online or to get a recommendation 228 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: and to know instantly that they're gonna sit down with 229 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: somebody who gets them right. So we're not funded in 230 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: terms of providers. We're not for you know, shar I'm 231 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: always talking about the research. We don't have near enough 232 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: money to do the research that needs to be done. 233 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, we just don't have enough facilities to take 234 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: people in. And I think about impatient facilities for people 235 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: who really need care, even if it's short term care 236 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: or long term care, there are not enough facilities around. 237 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: And then when you think about you know, one of 238 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: the latest things is defunding of special education. Yes, right, 239 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and so those young people with behavioral health and educational needs, 240 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: those young people are not gonna get what they need. 241 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: So in so many ways, we don't have anywhere near 242 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: enough funding going towards some of the most vulnerable populations. 243 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: And when I say vulnerable, I'm not just talking about 244 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: black folks. I'm not talking about race. I'm talking about 245 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: different aspects like having a disability, like having a mental illness, 246 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: having a severe and persistent mental illness, like Corey Minor 247 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: Smith always talks about loving someone who might have schizophreny. 248 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: I heard y'all earlier or you know, I said, you 249 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: said it right, right, But you know, we don't have 250 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: what we need to ensure. I also think about people 251 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: who may have made a suicide attempt and have to 252 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: be hospitalized, particularly young people. They're not enough beds to 253 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: go around for those young folks to get what they need. 254 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: So no, we absolutely don't have adequate funding for mental 255 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: health initiatives. 256 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: So what's your people do? Then? How do we get 257 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: the money? 258 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: I think, well, one thing I think people have to 259 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: do is people have to people who have the means, 260 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: even if all you have is five dollars five cent, 261 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: you know. And I think about the Mental Wealth Alliance 262 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and what you set out to do with train, treat 263 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: and teach. You want to get people the help that 264 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: they need. But you can't do that if you don't 265 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: have money. You don't have funding. So what I want 266 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: people to do is to go to organizations like the 267 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Mental Wealth Alliance online, go to the website, go to 268 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the donate page, and give what you can. But it 269 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: has to happen consistently. One thing we try to teach 270 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: people is, you know, everybody loves coffee. I'm not gonna 271 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: call no coffee company's name, because it's one that y'all 272 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: like up here in New York. I don't like it, 273 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna say not gonna want to beat 274 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: me up. But instead of having coffee five days a week, 275 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: skip one of them five dollar coffees and take that 276 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: money and donate it to an organization like the Mental 277 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Wealth Alliance who's putting in the work. I think it's 278 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: also about advocacy. We have to have people out here 279 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: who are writing to their you know, representatives at the local, regional, state, 280 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: and federal level and saying we need you to invest 281 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 1: in our young people, in older people in our communities 282 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: to support. And then the final thing is, you know, 283 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: when I think about youth and adolescent mental health, only 284 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: about one and a half to two percent of all 285 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: funding that goes to everything in the nonprofit space goes 286 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: to their mental health. Funding for mental health overall is 287 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: a very small percentage of where money goes because of stigma. 288 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: So I think part of it is with what we 289 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: do with the Mental Health Alliance and similar organizations. The 290 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: goal is to help people understand. I heard somebody say 291 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: the other day, if you break your leg, you have diabetes, 292 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: God forbid. If you have you know, hopefully it's a 293 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: benign tumor. If you have something that's impacting you. You 294 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: don't ask to wait, or you're not asked to wait 295 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: to get that treated. It's the same thing with mental health. 296 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: We shouldn't ask people to put off taking care of 297 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: their mental health because there's not access, there's not money, 298 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: there's not availability of providers. And so if each of 299 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: us can do just a little bit right, and part 300 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: of my mission with the work that I do is 301 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to try to put money in organizations to help them 302 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: get the resources that they need to do the work. 303 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: But it can't be one person, it can't be just 304 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: a few people. It takes all of us. 305 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: You talked about the youth. You wrote something called the 306 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: State of Mental Health for Youth and Young Adults twenty 307 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: twenty five sport. What was that about? 308 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the State of Mental Health of Youth and 309 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Young Adults for twenty twenty five is is a second 310 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: iteration of a study. I am a researcher at heart. 311 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: My deepest belief is that every young person deserves to 312 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: feel seen, heard in value. When I say young people, 313 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: and I'm basically talk about anybody under thirty, because I'm old, 314 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm gen X. And with our work, what we try 315 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: to do is we're trying to fill in a gap. Right, 316 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: So people will say, well, why you're only focus on 317 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: young people of color, Well, primarily because most of the 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: data that's out there, we're represented but in these tiny 319 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: little bits. So it's really hard to talk about what's 320 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: going on with black youth, what's going on with Asian youth, 321 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: what's going on with Native Hawaiian or Latino Latina youth, 322 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: or you know, what's going on with the or Native 323 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: American youth. We're in Indigenous people's day, but we don't 324 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: know enough about young people in these communities about their 325 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: mental health, what takes away from their mental health, what 326 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: do their symptoms look like, What kind of supports do 327 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: they have available to them that have nothing to do 328 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: with going to mental health care? What other kind of 329 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: support do you have. If we don't ask, we don't know. 330 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: If we don't know, we can't find solutions to help 331 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: our young people. So our goal is to fill that 332 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: gap and to make sure that we're bringing in data 333 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: from all different kinds of young people, including right, because 334 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: when we talk about young people of color, we're also 335 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: talking about all of their identities, right, So whether they 336 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: have a disability or not whether they might be lesbian, transgender, 337 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, non gender conforming part of the LGBTQAI plus community. 338 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: We want to know what all of their experiences are 339 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: like because all of us, as doctor David John says, 340 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: all of us got a rise together. When I'm talking 341 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: about black people, I'm talking about all of us. So 342 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: our data was designed this year. We had close to 343 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: nine thousand people young people participating in our survey. It 344 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: was fantastic, thank you, and we learned a lot. We 345 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: learned about what kind of supports do they have. A 346 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: lot of our young people still go to their peers, 347 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: their friends, and their family members as a first line 348 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: of defense. We learned about what through different signs and 349 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: symptoms look like. We learned things like over fifty percent 350 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: of the young people in our survey experience symptoms regularly 351 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: experience moderate to severe symptoms of depression, moderate to severe 352 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: symptoms of anxiety. Our young people are dealing with racial trauma. 353 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: So what we're trying to do with the e Comma 354 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Project and with this study is put information out there 355 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: that everybody can digest. So I encourage people to go 356 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: to our website at a COMA Project Research briefs, plain language. 357 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Anybody can understand it. We have beautiful graphics and we 358 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: have infographics so you can see, for people of your 359 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: racial ethnic group, how does what you're struggling with align 360 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: with what other people of different ethnic groups are struggling with. 361 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: And the goal is for any young person, like your 362 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: little boy or like you're young ladies, for anybody or 363 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: my kids to be able to go to a website 364 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm not alone. There are other people 365 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: who are dealing with this stuff too. So that's what 366 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: that's about. 367 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of being a loan one thing that I find 368 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: interested in this study is you said you found that 369 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: young people find themselves negatively impacted by epic levels of 370 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: loans and isolation. Yes, that was so interesting to me 371 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: because we live in this world where everybody seems so connected. 372 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: Yes, you got all of these meaningless connections with us. 373 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: What it is, that's one hundred percent what it is. 374 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: It is the illusion of connection, right. The idea is, 375 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: think about how we interact so many of us. I 376 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: was yesterday when I was with my kids. We were 377 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: at brunch at this really wonderful place, and at one 378 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: point I look up and everybody's heads in their phone, right, 379 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: So you're at the table together, but you're not interacting 380 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: with each other. So I'm not knocking it. I'm just 381 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: saying that these are the kind of spaces that young 382 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: people are coming up in. When I'm out and about, 383 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Like yesterday was the Hispanic Latino Heritage Parade. I saw 384 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: so many little babies and strollers looking at devices. Yeah, 385 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: looking at tablets. I mean I did it too, Like 386 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to, like you need some pieces, 387 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: so you get a baby to think so they're focused. 388 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: But I think it does create the illusion. I think 389 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: the other thing is fear of missing out. Everybody talks 390 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: about foam moll So you see people online, you know, 391 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: and I always tell people you got to remember that 392 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: stuff is curated. They're picking the best bits. They're not 393 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: showing you how lonely they were ten minutes before. They 394 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: just got themselves together, put on a whole bunch of makeup, 395 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: they got their gear tight and went to that party. 396 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: And maybe the whole time they were at that party, 397 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: when they weren't taking pictures, they were standing in the 398 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: corner by themselves on the phone or on the phone, right, 399 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: And so like the loneliness epidemic I think comes from 400 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: a number of different spaces. I think too many of 401 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: our young people don't are not taught, think about the 402 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: pandemic when they lost the opportunity to learn the skills 403 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: that we learned. I've heard you talk about your educational experience. 404 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: I grew up like that too. You lose the opportunity 405 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: to be in community physically, to learn how to go 406 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: sit down with somebody at the lunch table, how to 407 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: start a conversation, how to read social cues and know 408 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: when it's time to back up, do you know what 409 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean? How to deal with conflict. And if you 410 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: don't learn those skills, I think what a lot of 411 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: us do, of any age, is we shrink, We don't try, 412 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: and that contributes to the loneliness epidemic as well. So 413 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: we're looking at all these people doing all this cool stuff, 414 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: and we're thinking to ourselves, I must not be cool 415 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: because I'm not doing this stuff, you know what I mean? 416 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: And so all of those kinds of things really make 417 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: it hard for our young people to sort of get 418 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: themselves out of being isolated and stuck, and that loneliness 419 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: just kind of sets. 420 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: In, and young people also feel like everything's supposed to happen. 421 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: Right now, everything is microwave where everything is instant, you know, 422 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: hence Instagram. Everything is just supposed to happen. And honestly, 423 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: people lose their confidence, you know, when they feel like 424 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: they can't keep up with their favorite stream or their 425 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: favorite influencer. You know that That's something that I'm still 426 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to not keep away from 427 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: my son, but like curated in a way where it's like, yo, 428 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: you picked us up when you just don't have nothing 429 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: to do, you know other than that go throw a 430 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: ball side because he loves football and he used to 431 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: love being online with me a lot more, but as 432 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: he grew up, he was like, nah, I'm but I that, 433 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: like he don't always be trying to, you know, be online, 434 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: figure out what the latest trend is or you know, 435 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: rage baking. 436 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: All that stuff is. 437 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: The Internet is like a gift in a curse, you know, yes, 438 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: but nowadays it just feels like more of a curse. 439 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to figure out ways where I 440 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: can keep him from it. 441 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like, but what you've described lets me know, 442 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: as a person who works with parents and families in 443 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: the past, did something right right because the fact that 444 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: he feels comfortable pulling away from it and communicating to you, now, 445 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm good, I don't want to do that, and you 446 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: accept that and receive that because you know a lot 447 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: of folks out here. I have seen all these documentaries 448 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: they're forcing these kids all the time. The kid is 449 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: the content, you know what I'm saying, And so the 450 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: kid is the money maker. And so you know, whatever 451 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: you're doing, lean into that more because you're doing something right. 452 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: And I bet I'm not to put you on the spot, 453 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: but I bet at some point if you share with 454 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: people here's how I've approached this with my child, You're 455 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: giving them ideas because a lot people struggle with that 456 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: they don't know. And one of the things we did, 457 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: which I got, I'm gonna be honest from this. Back 458 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: when Oprah had still had a show, I watched Brocko 459 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama talk about screen time and how they limited 460 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: and that was the first time I'd ever heard that. 461 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: And their thing that they said was during the week, 462 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: no screens, And me and my husband we were like, 463 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: what what you mean no screens? How you do that? 464 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: But we did it, and both of our kids ended 465 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: up being class valedictorians. So it's like you, you talked 466 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: about how smart you were and how well you did 467 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: in school. So I think there's something to be said 468 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: for when you hear these great ideas from people, figure 469 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: out what might work for your family. Maybe you have 470 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: to tweak it, but I think it really is about 471 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: being active consumers and being active, like you're saying, managers 472 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: of what happens with social media and those screens with 473 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: our children, we cannot leave it to them to figure 474 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: it out. It's our job as caregivers to help them 475 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: navigate it. We do that in our house. 476 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: No screens during the weeks and on the weekend you 477 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: get a certain amount of it should be like. 478 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: A treat it is. 479 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, people to me, you use it as a like 480 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: a tool to keep the babies occupying. Yeah. 481 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you one thing Jason Wilson told 482 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: me over the weekend. I never heard of it. Have 483 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: y'all heard of this thing? The brick break your phone? 484 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: So okay, I'll tell you real quickly. It's a little device. 485 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: You you know, the device stays in your home in 486 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: one location. You set the device. I'm being really crude 487 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: with it where certain apps you disable them with the bricks. 488 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: So it's like you touch your phone to the brick 489 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: and those apps are disabled. So maybe like Instagram or 490 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: TikTok or something like that, right then you leave, when 491 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: you leave the house, the only way you can re 492 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: engage those is by touching the brick. That so if 493 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: you're gone, you can't engage with the app because that 494 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: makes it it's locked. You're locked out of it essentially. 495 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: And he told me that. I was like, oh, I 496 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: love that because it reduces the temptation that like, yeah, 497 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: break your phone, it reduces the temptation to turn it 498 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: back on. I thought that was fantastic. I don't have 499 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: to try that. Yeah, even even for me, I need that. Yeah, 500 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: I need that on the phone. 501 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: You ever be scrolling and you like, all right, I'm 502 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: gonna just it'll be four forty four. YEA gonna do 503 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 3: this till five o'clock. You look up and it's six o'clocks. 504 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: It's like, yo, I could have done so much in 505 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: that hour, Yes, and you don't even realize. 506 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: No, No, I did it. This morning. I was getting 507 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: ready to get over here, and I looked up. I 508 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: said ok, I gotta get dress because I gotta get 509 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: in the car because I won't be late. I looked 510 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: up forty five minutes to pass, and I'm like, oh God, 511 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I gotta get all this stuff together right, and you 512 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: just lose track of time. So it happens to the 513 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: best of us. So something like that that forces you 514 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: love that. 515 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: Now. 516 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: I know I would struggling a little bit because I'd 517 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: be hot. But how you turn this thing off? I 518 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: need an emergency off switch. But it would help me 519 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: because it would we trained, you know, help me. We 520 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: train my mind and my behaviors. I don't need to 521 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: be on IG all the time. You know I can 522 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: put I'm not a big TikTok fan, but you know 523 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: I can do something other than sit here and stare 524 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: at this phone and screw them all day. 525 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get bricked dot after the site, Uh doctor, 526 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: if you tell them how they can support the COMA 527 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: project and Mental Wealth Alliance. 528 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Mental Wealth Alliance. You're gonna go to Mental Wealth 529 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Alliance all one word dot org. You're gonna get on 530 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: that page. You're gonna look for to donate, but and 531 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna click donate and you're gonna give the Mental 532 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Wealth Alliance some money or the a Coma Project a 533 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: A k IS and kite o m A project all 534 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: one word. You can do that go there and donate 535 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: to just check out the resources that we have there. 536 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: You can follow obviously Charlemagne and the guys so you 537 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: can learn more about the Mental Wealth Alliance or follow 538 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: me doctor Alfie d R A L f I EE 539 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: on all socials like everywhere, and uh, we hope you'll 540 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: go donate to the Mental Wealth, the Mental Wealth Alliance. 541 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. People always ask me, you know, Charlotmage, 542 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: how are you able to do you know, so many 543 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: different things, and always say because you have to have 544 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: a great team. And you know, doctor Alfre Breeland Noble, 545 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: she runs the Mental Wealth Alliance, she runs the Your 546 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: Coma Project, and she you know, helps put together the 547 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: Mental Wealth Expert every year along with iHeart and you 548 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: know everybody else. So thank you, Doc Daalfi. 549 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: You're welcome and shouts out to all the folks. iHeart 550 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: to you and everybody in New Jersey Institute of Technology. 551 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: That was a lot of work and I just really 552 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: appreciate everybody who put their time and effort in and 553 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: I got to shout out the kind people in Newark 554 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: for coming. We really appreciate y'all. 555 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, doctor Alfrey. 556 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club, Wake that ass up in the morning. 557 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club,