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Speaker 2: What's going on, everybody? How are we doing? Job that?

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Speaker 2: We got three and out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well.

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Speaker 2: This little show is presented by my friends at Zone Pouches.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're doing better than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who

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Speaker 2: lost tonight and are in complete shambles. They've lost how

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Speaker 2: some Falcons kind of in shambles. Cousins felt like he

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Speaker 2: And when Baker mayfield on second and fourteen late in

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Speaker 2: listen the Bucks offense. You get Mike Evans, who's a

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Speaker 2: But Kirk Cousins throws for what was his final yard

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Speaker 2: know people trade Joe Burrow like guys. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: gets headlines, gets excitement, gets people to engage. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking shit about that world. I'm in it too,

425
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Speaker 2: But I just think there are some things that when

426
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 2: we talk about it the Cincinnati Bengals, have you ever

427
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: known an old person, an old stubborn person. Typically as

428
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: they age, it gets worse. Have you ever known an

429
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: old stubborn rich guy. They definitely are not listening to anybody. Now,

430
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: I've never known an old stubborn billionaire, but that's what

431
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: Mike Brown is. Mike Brown is an old stubborn billionaire

432
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: that over two decades ago, had an issue with this

433
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: quarterback who wanted out. Do you know what he told him? Retire?

434
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm not trading you, didn't, Budge? Do people forget that? Like,

435
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: I've been along long enough in the Internet era to

436
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: remember some things and Mike Brown, because all we do

437
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: is talk about how stubborn Mike Brown is, how poorly

438
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: he runs the team, like he had a situation with

439
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick, a former Heisman Trophy winner

440
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: that resurrected his franchise named Carson Palmer. He wanted to

441
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: leave and Mike Brown would not let him. You think

442
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: and listen. I watched Joe Burrow's comments. I my first

443
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: takeaway wasn't that like one hundred percent this guy this

444
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: offseason is gonna pound the table wants to trade. I

445
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: think anytime your your team sucks, you've missed a large

446
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: percentage of the season with a bad foot, it's just

447
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: that sucks. Like you start looking around, you go, God,

448
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: if I hadn't been injured, we would be in first

449
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: place more than likely, even with our shitty defense. And

450
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: then I saw Jamar Chase say, like, I think you

451
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: guys are blowing this out of proportion. I'm around him

452
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: every day and he's been around him forever to coming

453
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: back to LSU, He's like, I see a happy guy.

454
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Speaker 2: That's positive. But regardless the reaction of like, here are

455
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Speaker 2: the teams that a trade for him, The Rams, the Eagle,

456
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: you just start listening, you know the usual suspects. I

457
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: expect Mike Brown to not trade Joe Burrow for the

458
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: next several years. If you think this offseason, It's like, oh,

459
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: the Rams are gonna trade them four first round picks.

460
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Speaker 2: What do you think Mike Brown wants with four first

461
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: round picks? He'd rather just have his star quarterback. And

462
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: here's what I will say about the Bengals. Joe Burrow

463
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: has dictated terms to them. From a personnel standpoint, he

464
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: was pounding the table for Jamar Chase over Pinasul that

465
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: I would say organizationally, obviously, both guys elite. Organizationally, I

466
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: think if we were running a team, we would place

467
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: star offensive tackle over a star wide receiver. But they

468
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: listened and they went with the receiver. And it's obviously

469
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: paid dividends, it's been awesome. But they found their receiver.

470
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Speaker 2: They drafted this other guy in the second round who's

471
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: also a stud. Joe Burrow's like, we can't let him go. Well,

472
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna be paying two guys a ton of money

473
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Speaker 2: at that position. They listened and they did it. Now, defensively,

474
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: they don't spend a lot of cash, like actual cash

475
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: relative to a lot of other teams. No one's disputing that.

476
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: But you do know that Joe Burrow, because he grew

477
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: up in Ohio, then played for the Bengals, and then

478
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: they put an enormous offer in front of him. He

479
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: didn't have to sign it. Now you go, are you crazy?

480
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: They gave him two hundred and fifty million dollars. Well,

481
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: he could have played hardball, he could have used some leverage.

482
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I have a hard time like

483
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Speaker 2: feeling too much sympathy for a guy who signs the

484
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: contract knowing kind of what he's signing up with. It'd

485
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: be one thing. If you sign a big contract the

486
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: owner that you're dealing with leaves, it'd be like the

487
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: reversal Washington. It'd be like you have Josh Harris, he

488
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: sells to Dan Snyder you didn't know you were getting

489
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: in business with, and you're like, this sucks. But that's

490
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: not the case. Mike Brown owned the team before he

491
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: went to the NFL, and he currently owns the team now,

492
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Speaker 2: and he's going to own the team or his family

493
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: is for the foreseeable future. When you get in business

494
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: with certain people and you have and like you understand

495
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: what you're getting into business with, it's kind of on you.

496
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: It really is. Now it's the NFL, that's not the NBA.

497
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: It's hard to force trades. You know it is complicated, right,

498
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: You're typically stuck on a team for a while, but

499
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: like you signed this big contract. They do a lot

500
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: of the things you want them to do, and then

501
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: we start complaining about, like why does this team have

502
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: a lot of holes? Well, most teams that invest huge

503
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: amounts of money in four or five players, especially at

504
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: premium positions, are going to have some holes on their roster.

505
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: Now you could argue they have more than than they

506
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: should if they were better at drafting. They just drafted

507
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: the dude, Jermaine Burton, who they cut I think a

508
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. He's been inactive the last couple

509
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: of weeks. I think they left him at home for

510
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: the Ravens game on Thanksgiving of showing up play. I mean,

511
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: listen the Bengals history. They got a little like Al

512
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: Davis to him, like character. There are a lot of

513
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: teams that get character red flags you're off the board.

514
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: The Bengals like print you to two cards. They don't

515
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: discriminate there with some red flags off the field. But

516
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: then you get in positions where you're cutting the guy

517
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: a couple of years into his career. When you've drafted

518
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: him on the second day of the draft, and they

519
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: also do things like this year they drafted defensive lineman

520
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: really really high. I'm pretty sure he had like four

521
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: and a half career sacks in college. So I mean,

522
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: you're just this is the franchise you're dealing with, and

523
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: I listen, I know people are gonna say, like he

524
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: should demand his way out, even if he went scorts

525
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: to Earth like Miles Garrett last year, goes to Super

526
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: Bowl starts asking or hitting all the shows and saying

527
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: it's time. I've talked to my representative, I've told the

528
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Bengals I want out. My belief absolutely nothing will happen.

529
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Speaker 2: I would bet you said, hey, you got a at

530
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars. If Joe Burrow demanded a trade, would

531
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Speaker 2: he be traded or would he not be traded? It

532
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: would take me less than a second to bet on

533
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: he will not be traded. I wouldn't even I wouldn't

534
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: even have to think, because I've just followed football long

535
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: enough and it's not like I even from that area.

536
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: But if you have a brain and just common sense

537
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: and just can put two and two together the way

538
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: this guy is operated, I don't see that I do

539
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: not see that happening at all. So this is gonna

540
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: be a story. I'm sure there'll be things said after

541
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: the season. I don't expect this to go away. I

542
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: do think teams, if it ever did become realistic, would

543
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: obviously be very aggressive. The Rams would move heaven and earth.

544
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: They would be like Matt Retire will get you. I'm

545
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: not disputing any of that, but it takes two to tango,

546
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: Like I mean, you know, you can't do a trade

547
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: without both sides agreeing to the deal. And I just

548
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: think one side is not only not going to be

549
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: interested in listening, I don't even think they like they

550
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: just want to know part of it, Like they're not

551
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: even in that world. So fun story for everyone to

552
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: talk about. I think it's about as unrealistic as any

553
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: story that kind of consistently gets brought up. And last

554
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: but not least, I don't think if he actually starts.

555
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: And Adam Schefter tweeted today quoting one of the local

556
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: guys in Indies posts about his practice, that like, I

557
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: think Adam's so dummy, he knows what he's doing. All

558
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: signs pointing to Philip Rivers starting this weekend. That's one

559
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: of the craziest things to ever happen if he actually starts.

560
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: He's been retired since twenty twenty. He's been coaching high

561
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: school football. He's forty four years old. I mentioned this

562
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: to Stucky today that during the Raven Steeler game, they

563
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: mentioned a stat that, like I think it was either

564
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: seventy five or seventy six games had been started by

565
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: a guy over forty two years old, and Tom Brady

566
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: accounted for sixty six of those, and Rogers is now

567
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: the sixty seven. So I don't even know. Maybe you'd

568
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: have to go back to like the seventies or eighties

569
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: some of these random old guys. This is not normal

570
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: and this is truly unprecedented. Kyle Shanahan said today that

571
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, because I told I mentioned De Stuckey that

572
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers were gonna sign him if they

573
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: made the Super Bowl the year that brought Perty heard

574
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: his elbow against the Philadelphia Eagles, and Kyle Shanahan said

575
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: that when Jimmy Garoppolo broke his ankle and Party came in.

576
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: They contacted Philip Rivers then and he was in the

577
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Zoom meetings each week because they wanted him just up

578
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: to speed in case something happened to Perty. So, Philip,

579
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: it's weird, right, Like a lot of these guys, it

580
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: was clear like Drew Brees was shot and everyone was out.

581
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: This Burger's arm over Eli over, and then there's like

582
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Flacca who just like legitimately keeps playing, but he's like

583
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: the backup. You know. Rivers was never in that position

584
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: where he's like, I'll just be someone's backup. But for

585
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: whatever reason, coaches just love this guy. And clearly his

586
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: relationship with Shane syken Is is pretty unique. He goes

587
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: back to who's his quarterback coach in San Diego? They

588
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: speak the same language. Sometimes. It's like in life when

589
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: you date, when you get married, there are certain women

590
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 2: that you meet that you just like. It's hard to explain, right,

591
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: you just have an instant connection with, right, ideally the

592
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: one that you're married to and spend the rest of

593
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: your life with. But throughout your life when you date

594
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: different people, you just you just vibe you have a connection.

595
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: Football is kind of like that too, right, some of

596
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: these individuals. Tom Brady had it with Josh McDaniels, right,

597
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers clearly has it with Shane Stikeen Brock, Perdy

598
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: and and cousin, and some of these guys had it

599
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: with Kyle Shanahan. Sean McVeigh clearly has it with Matt Stafford,

600
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid and Alex Smith,

601
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: and that relationship is just it's just a pretty special relationship.

602
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: It's like you speak the same language immediately, and there's

603
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: a respect factor that goes both ways, and that can

604
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: only take you so far. I do think I don't

605
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: want to throw a red flag on this situation, but

606
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: at forty four years old that there's just no way

607
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: humanly possible. You've been training at the levels in which

608
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: you used to. You're going to Seattle, who as of

609
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: this morning was a two touchdown favorite. They are one

610
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the league. They have one

611
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: of the best defense in the league, but specifically they

612
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: have one of the fastest defenses in the league that

613
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: is led by you know, he's a head coach, so

614
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: it's hard to like. I don't think most people consider

615
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: they go Robert Sala or whoever. The best defensive coordinators

616
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: in the league, you know, Shoela Spagnola, Fangio, Mike McDonald

617
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: should be listed in that group. If not at the top,

618
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: he just happens to also be the head coach. And

619
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: you're going into a hornet's nest. Place will be bananas.

620
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: They can operate at warp speed. All their dbs run

621
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: and hit. They have multiple defensive linemen who will fucking

622
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: rock you. I think it's kind of scary and I'm

623
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 2: fascinated to watch. At the end of the day, football

624
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: is entertainment. He knows what he signed up for. I'm

625
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: rooting for it to go well. I think him winning

626
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: or just competing and have the game close would be

627
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: one of the coolest things we've ever seen. It also

628
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: could get really ugly. And here's the other thing. I

629
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: went to the gym the other day and I usually

630
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: do this like a little circuit thing upstairs, and I

631
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: have like a set like five or six things I

632
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: do for like multiple circuits. And for whatever reason, there

633
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: was like this lady in the area and I came

634
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: at a different time than I usually did, and I

635
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: was like, you know, screw it. So I kind of

636
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: started doing some other things and I just one of

637
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: those benches that you can kind of do freeways on.

638
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: You can do sit up, so you can do a

639
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: lot of different things on it. I just put my

640
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: feet on it and did decline push ups like I've

641
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: been doing my whole life. I want to do some

642
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: push ups. Just put my feet up it declined. You

643
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: can use a medicine ball, whatever. But I didn't stretch

644
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: or anything. It was like one of the first things

645
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: I did after I kind of did the rowing machine

646
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: to get the heart moving, and the first push up

647
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: I did, I felt like a back muscle pulled. And

648
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: for the last three or four days, it's just like

649
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: something's off in my back. You know, I'm forty one.

650
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Things that never happened before in my life. Just and

651
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm not a professional athlete, but anyone once you get

652
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: in your late thirties, definitely into your forties, you just

653
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: start feeling things. You're like, God, I've never really felt

654
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: that before. I've been doing that same thing for the

655
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: last twenty years, and I've never felt this pain. Phili

656
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Rid is forty four, so I would imagine towards the

657
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: end of his the hits hurt a little more, a

658
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: little harder to get up. I think we underestimate this

659
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: isn't nineteen eighty seven you know, you're not technically allowed

660
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: to totally kill people across the middle of the field.

661
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: The one area though, that allows you to be really,

662
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: really physical is a line of scrimmage in the offensive

663
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: and defensive lineman. Now you can say, well, you can't

664
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: hit their feet, and you'll get a flag for a

665
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: late hit. Okay, but you can still light hit them.

666
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: And I'm rooting for this to go. Well. I'm a

667
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers fan. I've been saying forever. You see his

668
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: press conferences. Do you know how good this guy would

669
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: be on television? I nothing I feel stronger about than

670
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. If he went into television, like Brady or

671
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Breeze or any of these guys in call games, I

672
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: think he'd be a superstar. If Treykman retired, I think

673
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: you could throw them on Monday Night and he'd be

674
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: the next John Madden or John Ruden. I think he'd

675
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: be that good. I'm very confident in that his love

676
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: of football, as we're seeing right now, Strap at forty

677
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: four years old, he's not doing this for the money.

678
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: Google how much he's made. I'll bet the number is

679
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifty million dollars. It ain't a

680
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: lack of cash in the bank. Now. He's got a

681
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: lot of kids and grandkids now, but I'm pretty sure

682
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: probably invested pretty well or at least safely. So I

683
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: just think this guy's a football junkie. I just I

684
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: hope everyone knows like this could be a little scary.

685
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: For my man, Philip Rivers.

686
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, fired up to be back again with my main man,

687
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: Stucky from the Action Network Big Bets on campus Action

688
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Network podcast. And it turns out he's about to have

689
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: a child. That turns out ninety nine percentile might have

690
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: a little Trent Williams there in the baby or in

691
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: the belly. So congrats to you, Stucky.

692
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, twenty second, we'll be the first time dad.

693
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: So fingers crossed for good health and everything goes okay.

694
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's ninety nine point nine percentile size across

695
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: the board. So I was just telling you, I'm gonna

696
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: trend to be a tight end backing quarterback sneak. That's

697
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: the future. Like just I'm gonna get an elite quarterback

698
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: sneak skills. Like as soon as he's you know, maybe

699
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: three under center, let's start practicing snaps. I'm kidding, do

700
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. But yeah, it's exciting and it'll be

701
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: on a Monday. And the first thing I looked at

702
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm very sick individual there is there's one bowl. It's

703
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: the famous Idaho Potato Bowl in the afternoon. I do

704
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: have money on it. But so yeah, I'm looking forward

705
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: to that. But we're in the middle of the grind.

706
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: There's no stopping kid or not.

707
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, we don't know.

708
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: We have a loose date. But you know, if there

709
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: was a chance it's like a Monday night, you know,

710
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: you had that wild card Monday night football game on,

711
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: we we'd have to set up some plans with the hospital.

712
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: You know, we could be mid delivery of we got Niners, Eagles,

713
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: you know, Monday night football. We'll be dialed in. But

714
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we got a lot going on. We're recording

715
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: this Thursday night Michigan's and Shambles. You got TJ. Watt,

716
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: who just went to the hospital. You got Philip Rivers,

717
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: who's back. I don't even know. Honestly, I don't even

718
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start. Let's start in

719
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: the National Football League. Let's just I mean, that's a

720
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: pretty big story, Philip Rivers. I look, this morning, they're

721
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: catching two touchdowns at Seattle. Do you expect him to

722
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback Sunday afternoon?

723
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: I honestly, I usually have a take on those things.

724
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like I would imagine if Leonard's

725
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: healthy whole play but I don't know. I think must

726
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: have signed him for a reason. He knows the playbook

727
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: if he does. I also have no idea how to

728
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: price this game. We've never seen anything. We've never seen this.

729
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: The guy's forty five year old grandfather just put on

730
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: a couple of pounds as it played in five years.

731
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Is going to go out and start against on the road,

732
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: against one of the best defenses in the NFL. How

733
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: do you price that? Then? I don't know. I mean,

734
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: it's close to impossible. I don't like the look oadline

735
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: for this. Obviously, you get a down grade the Colts

736
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: at the last week upgrade the Seahawks for their win.

737
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: But it was like three and a half is fourteen

738
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: the right number? I couldn't even tell you. I mean, also,

739
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: the Colts secondary is not the same Tarvarius Ward.

740
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if his I know that's awful third

741
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: concussion this year, Jesus.

742
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: And then you have Sauce Gardner still her at the

743
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: bars buck, so their defense isn't the same. They have

744
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: an offensive line injury. So I don't know. I mean,

745
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I really don't know what to expect. I don't know

746
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: if he's gonna start.

747
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Now.

748
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: I will say I'll be tuned in, but I won't

749
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: be betting it. But yeah, you gotta watch that. Who's

750
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: not interested to see how it turns out. It could

751
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: be a complete disaster, or maybe he's semi serviceable. I

752
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: assume he's gonna try to look they're gonna try to

753
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: run tailor a bunch. The Seahawks know that he's probably

754
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna throw to Tyler Warren a bunch. Usually that's what

755
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: the Seahawks make you do, throw underneath and like if

756
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: you're a usually a backup does this. They rely on

757
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: their tight end a lot, but especially if you're like

758
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: a forty five year old come like you're gonna you

759
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: want to get rid of the ball quick, Like can

760
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: he get hit? Can he take a hit? That's another question.

761
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: I just I have no.

762
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Idea, but it's gonna be fascinating to watch more betting perspective,

763
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine. Full a coin.

764
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: Did you have the audio on on the Steelers Ravens

765
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: game on some day morning with all the games going.

766
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: On the what the audience that?

767
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you watch a bunch of games, you

768
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: just choose one game to have the audio on typically,

769
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: or how do you usually do that?

770
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny that you ask. So normally, yeah, like NFL,

771
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: I if must there's a really big game that I

772
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: want to watch, then I'll just have that on the digital,

773
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: have like a red zone on my main with volume

774
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: and then the tvds around it with the other games.

775
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: But sometimes on a college football Saturday or college basketball Saturday,

776
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I will have and I have to be by myself

777
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: because someone.

778
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna say, multiple audios going.

779
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: On, I'll have audio on all the TVs and I

780
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: will be putting one lower a little bit. And then

781
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: it's if you ever walk in to a room when

782
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, you'd be like, what is wrong? You

783
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: need to lock this person in a psych ward.

784
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: You like Jeffrey Dahmer of football or something.

785
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Every once in a while I do do that because

786
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: and then i'm I'm is that I can catch more

787
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: like like someone will mention like an injury if I'm

788
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: paying attention here, and it's if I'm like really wrapped

789
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: up in the day and really excited, I'll do that.

790
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: But it's uh, yeah, usually just just one game.

791
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, because that you're right, because like when there's like

792
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: seven eight six, however many games going, like the morning

793
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: slate you just missed. Like if you just watch a

794
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: game individually, you get pretty good nuggets. Like one thing

795
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: that they said, like I typically have the audio on

796
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: the best game in the morning and same in the

797
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: afternoon with all the other games going around it, but

798
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: I had it on the Raven Steelers game. I was

799
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: going back and forth with Raven Steelers and Bengals Bills

800
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: with the audio. But when I was watching when they're

801
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: the audio on for this the Steeler game, there was

802
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: like a stat that guys of forty two years or

803
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: older because Rogers had just turned forty two, had played

804
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: like a combined I think the number was like seventy

805
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: five career games in the NFL, but sixty six of

806
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: them were Brady, so sixty seven of them. So it's

807
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: such a small sample size. That's the thing with Philip Rivers.

808
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: It's like if you remove Brady, it literally never happened

809
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: with people like forty two years old, let alone forty

810
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: four who has just been out with a four year break. Yeah,

811
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's it's gonna be cinema. I'm with you.

812
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: I might just recall little on Indy though, even if

813
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: he had been playing, you would say Philip Rivers kind

814
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: of a bad matchup. Can't move. Their defense is really

815
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: fast up there, let alone the break. I know his

816
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: high school team makes sense, right, Shane coached him in

817
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: in San Diego. You run across some guys like certain

818
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: people like for Brady, was Josh for Peyton, him and

819
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: Adam Gase just like you know, Shane Styke and Philip

820
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: Rivers just like a football relationship that you just hit

821
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: it off and you just talk the rest of your

822
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: life about football. So I do believe that they probably talk.

823
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: I think people would be shocked probably how often they'd

824
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: actually talk over the last three or four years. You know,

825
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: text like daily, you know about about like not like family,

826
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: not about food, just like simply football. Like it's it's

827
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: probably really in depth geeky. So I'm I think it's a,

828
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: it's a fun story, but let's you.

829
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Gotta feel bad if you're Brett Rippon. Though they're on

830
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: the practice squad, all the quarterbacks are hurt, and they're like,

831
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: let's call Philip Rivers and yeah, so I'm fascinated to

832
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: see what happens. I had literally no idea what's gonna happen.

833
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: And I have no idea how to price it. I

834
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: have no idea how about it. It's a pure pass

835
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: for me. But I will be ten in.

836
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: Remember John Lynch when Purty messed up his elbow said

837
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: if they would have been able to win that game somehow,

838
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: the plan was to get Philip Rivers for the Super Bowl.

839
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Really yeah, he said that a couple of years ago.

840
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I get, like, like an off season interview, like they

841
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: because they start looking around again, like these guys when

842
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: you're so desperate, like you're not gonna go the ship's

843
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: not gonna go down, Brett Rippon or whoever the forty

844
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: nine ers, you know, because by then the forty nine

845
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: ers party was our third string quarterback. So it's like

846
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: they had nothing.

847
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean McCaffrey was throwing passes.

848
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then even their backup Josh Johnson had got

849
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: injured as well. So it's just like I do understand Indy, like,

850
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: are we gonna look Jonathan Taylor in the eye. Let

851
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: go down? At least he can respect our efforts. So

852
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: I had a weird way. I probably would have done

853
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: the same.

854
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I would have Yeah, that's fascinating. I never even thought

855
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: about that. If the forty nine ers have won that game,

856
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: what they would have done for a super like a

857
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: team gung to the super Bowl without a quarterback and

858
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: then having to find one, that would have been super cool.

859
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 1: I never heard. I never heard them and said, that's

860
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: that's amazing.

861
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let's uh, let's hammer some games. Let's just start

862
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: with not a great game, pretty big spread. I do

863
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: think the Cardinals are just kind of circling the drain,

864
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: and at this point that they're in shambles. Houston has

865
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: serious life, right, I mean they are kind of rolling.

866
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean CJ. I don't even know what his box

867
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: score was last week against the Chiefs, but has a

868
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: little mojo going. I mean their defense is pretty incredible. Uh, now,

869
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, take them to just blow people out. I

870
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that's like the Houston texansm but I just

871
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: think this Card's thing is really starting to fall apart.

872
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: I mean they've been blown out a couple times. You

873
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: and I talked about they were like the best, like

874
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: three and eight team in the league. Every they could

875
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: have easily been at eight and three. I mean there

876
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: was they were probably seven eight plays away. But now

877
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: this thing's getting away from at Houston. You know, Dimico Casario, CJ,

878
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: the pass rushers and their dbs. Their team hit so

879
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: hard that that hit peetree hat across the middle. It

880
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: was like, God, this feels like an old school throwback

881
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: team right now. Even I heard Dimiico's like, yeah, sometimes

882
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 2: you kind of missed being out there watching these guys

883
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: FA lying around. I'm a hammer of the Texans this

884
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: week with my Niven and a half, not my.

885
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: Cup of tea. I mean, the Texans look at they're

886
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: probably at the close the peak of their market value.

887
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: That they're coming off games against what the Bills, Colts

888
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Maybe they're they come out a little flat.

889
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: I could see. They're just not a team I want

890
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: to bet to win by a lot of margin. Having

891
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: said that, so, like we mentioned the Cardinals, how good,

892
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: how close they were in every game. I don't know

893
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: who's gonna play for the Cardinals, Like, so they might

894
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: just have no players available. I mean you're talking there

895
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: receivers they're down to, like maybe just Michael Wilson. I

896
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: don't think Marvin Harrison might not play Weaver. Their offensive

897
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: line is now in shambles, like Hernandez is on IR,

898
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Christian Jones, Paris Johnson is out there. They're without their tackles.

899
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: They might be without both guards their defense like Walter

900
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: Nolan Thompson, Melton Mack Wilson's on IR. They are I

901
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: mean even there were Turners, their kick returner, punk return.

902
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: They are. You look, you pull up their injury report,

903
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: you it's a it's a CBS for seed like it's

904
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: insane both it's on all three phases. So yeah, all

905
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: the offensive line injuries in particular might just be death

906
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: for them. So not my cup of tea. But I

907
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: don't think they'll betting the Cardinals here. And you're right

908
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: on the Texans. They are extremely dangerous. I know people

909
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: will like they say that about say, that's not a

910
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: lot of teams, Like you don't want to face this team.

911
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: You don't want to face the Texans uh. If they

912
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: should get into the playoffs, it looks like the last

913
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: spot is probably going to be because if you look

914
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: at the Texans, the Texans have they're home against the Cardinals,

915
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: home against the Raiders the next two weeks, and then

916
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: they have the Colts at home and in Indy right yeah,

917
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean India I think is done uh so and

918
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: the Texans right now, so that would they sweep down there.

919
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: At eleven wins, they're getting in and then it comes

920
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: down to they win the division with Jags have a

921
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: couple of easy games, but the Jags also go to Denver.

922
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: So the biggest, the hardest game on the Texans schedule

923
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: left is the Chargers. But with the state of the

924
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: Chargers offensive line, with that defensive line, and that's not

925
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: like the Chargers have a big home field advances their

926
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: road game, uh There're other three are at home. The

927
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: Texans are going to extremely dangerous. Their offense is playing better.

928
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: The offensive line has played better in the second half

929
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: of the year. Also, like Woody Marx has given the

930
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: run games and the juice and then they're I think

931
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: one of the best things that happened at the Texans

932
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: is when Nico Collins went out, then Nico Collins out,

933
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: they had Christian Kirk out with injuries and these other

934
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: and then you know Shroud was out. These other receivers,

935
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: these younger receivers had to step up, guys like Higgins

936
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: and now they're you know, they they were able, they

937
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: were able to develop depth the wide receiver and they

938
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: have some other reliable options outside of Nico Collins. So

939
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: while the offense isn't great, you don't need it to

940
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: be great. You just need this offense to be serviceable.

941
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: And you know, they're still probably gonna struggle to finish

942
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: drives in the red zone. But this is I think,

943
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: for my money, it's the best defense in the NFL.

944
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: It's nothing fancy. It's you know, we're gonna line up.

945
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: They're not gonna like blitz of a ton. They're not

946
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: gonna show a ton of exotic looks. Non Demika will

947
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: change the game plan based on who they're playing. But

948
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: it's just look at that front, look at the secondary talent,

949
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: and you don't need to do too much to it's

950
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: just a sound unit. And yeah, they can hit, they

951
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: can get after the passer, and they can cover. So

952
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: there's really no weaknesses on that defense, so they get

953
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: in and then like depending on what happens, like there's

954
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: a good chance Mahomes isn't in the playoffs. It looks

955
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: like Allan will probably by the way he's alan the

956
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: last two years against this Texans defense has been abysmal.

957
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: They have tortured him and tortured that offensive line. And

958
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: then you look around and it's like the other quarterbacks

959
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: are gonna have been here, like Lawrence Nicks may like

960
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: all inexperienced young quarterbacks that like this Texans team on

961
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: with their defense leading the charge, can certainly make a run.

962
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: They are dangerous, and the Cardinals are just so beat up.

963
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that separates I would say Houston,

964
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Seattle and Denver. It's like you could have a good

965
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: defense if you just have like a good front seven,

966
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: like a domin a D line and kind of get

967
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: by with some random dB. So you know, i'd say

968
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: the Rams or someone like that. When you have I mean,

969
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: I listen, lassitors from Georgia, so it's not like he's

970
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: coming from UC Davis here, but you start to turn

971
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: him into a good player. Stingley is a stud with Petrie,

972
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: so all of a sudden you got dB talent and

973
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: dominant pass rushers that there is no nothing you can do, right,

974
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what.

975
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: Like, that's the Seahawks are able to do this too,

976
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: is and the Broncos. The Broncos blitz a lot, like

977
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the Seahawks don't blitz at all, and they can get pressure,

978
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna lead great Texans can do the same. That gives

979
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: you so much flexibility. If you can get that is

980
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: the key to an elite NFL defense in twenty twenty five.

981
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: You can get pressure without blitzing, and all those teams

982
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: that you mentioned certainly can do that.

983
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: Well. Check the checkdowns. When you have elite team speed

984
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: in your defensive backfield, the checkdowns instead of going for

985
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: seven yards get tackled.

986
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Like two yards.

987
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like you're not really moving the ball.

988
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: You can't just dinc and dunk them to death because

989
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: their team speed to get up close is like, you know,

990
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: cushion is actually not a cushion Like you see some

991
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: of these slow defenses. You know, guys are wide open.

992
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: You're like they're just it doesn't nothing you can do.

993
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: That's to me kind of the rams downfalls, like do

994
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 2: you trust their secondary, you know, is it good enough?

995
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know.

996
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the question with the Rams, I think

997
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: because in the NFC, as opposed to the NFC is

998
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: going to be a war. And now you can get

999
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: away with that. Against the Eagles, your secondary is just

1000
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Although their secondary got roasted for a half, I mean that,

1001
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: it's not the last time in the Eagles offensive good.

1002
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: Maybe the Giants game so, but you look at the

1003
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: NFC playoffs the Packers.

1004
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: Cooper was locking down what's.

1005
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: His name, what's up?

1006
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Cooper degene was He had some sweet plays against mccaukey.

1007
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: He was he looked great in space there. Yeah, the Rams,

1008
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe you can get through

1009
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: the NFC. There's not like the Bears are running team.

1010
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: The Niners can throw it. The Seahawks they want to

1011
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: run it, but they certainly can throw. The Bucks are

1012
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: are fading. Their offense has been very bad. We'll say

1013
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: they have had some injuries. The Eagles can't throw it.

1014
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: So maybe the the Rams, I mean, the Rams offense

1015
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: is so good it might not.

1016
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about that game, because that's another I'm

1017
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: gonna go. You know, Lion's coming off a long week,

1018
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: get some offensive momentum. They got a lot of team speed. Obviously,

1019
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: Saint Brown is a badass. Maybe he wasn't as hard

1020
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: as we thought, but like, I don't think anyone questioned

1021
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: his toughness before that game. So it's like, yeah, when

1022
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: John made off, he was like forty five fifty and

1023
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: just toughed it out. Jamis and Williams has really exploded

1024
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: since Gamble, since Dan Campbell kind of kicked you know,

1025
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Johnny Morton to the side, and like if you have

1026
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: some secondary issues. You know, obviously the Lions offensive line

1027
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: is not nearly what it has been the last couple

1028
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: of week years. But you know, Gibbs in space, I mean,

1029
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: now Landman's I don't know, look pretty damn good, but

1030
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: I'm hammering the Lions, you know, this weekend plus five

1031
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: and a half again, the Rams are you know, probably

1032
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: a higher version of the Chargers, but it's not you

1033
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't say, exactly a home field advantage right at so

1034
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: far for them. So I do think that extra that

1035
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: extra week. I think also if you're the Lions, like

1036
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: that game against the Cowboys just gave you life. I mean,

1037
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: the season was kind of on the line. And now

1038
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 2: you know, this is a pretty big Dan Campbell week.

1039
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: But like you know, assuming Seattle wins, it's not like

1040
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: when you look up at the standings, the Rams the

1041
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: number one seed, but you're playing the Lions. Then what

1042
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: they have a short week? They got to go to Seattle.

1043
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a massive four day stretch you

1044
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 2: would say, I mean kind of must win if you're

1045
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: just gonna give yeah, I'll give Seattle the benefit of

1046
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: data at home on a short week. So let's just

1047
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: assume you lose that game. All of a sudden, you

1048
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: lose this game against the Lions. Forty nine ers, beat

1049
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: the Titans, you know, beat the Bears, beat the Coles.

1050
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: You know, this is a little more jumbled, I think

1051
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: than Pete pull the casual. I hear a lot of

1052
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: people say, oh, Ram's gonna win the super Bowl. It's

1053
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: like They're gonna be the you know, one of the

1054
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: top seeds. Like, are we sure?

1055
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's that That is a huge game of and

1056
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that one next week. I have

1057
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: nothing here, like I'm pretty close to market. This will

1058
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: like this will probably come down where the lines could

1059
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: have an advantage of mcday will get a little too

1060
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: conservative at times and maybe like settle for field goals

1061
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: even though he has an elite offense and you know

1062
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: that especially as an underdog, Campbell's gonna go balls to

1063
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: the wall and be really aggressive. Oh, it could work

1064
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: for his advantage, especially like when you're trying to pull

1065
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: off the upset.

1066
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: The secondary stinks too, so it's like it's not like

1067
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: any stopping anybody.

1068
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my biggest concern here is can the lines

1069
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: offensive line hold up against the Rams defensive line and

1070
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: the I mean you maybe you get Kirby Joseph Back,

1071
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: I think he's at practice today, but you lost Brian

1072
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: Branch and that secondary with all the injuries that they've had,

1073
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: like and they play man and they blitz, which is

1074
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: just asking for trouble against Stafford and those receivers. But

1075
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: can the Lions match them scores, Yes, certainly, I just

1076
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: will probably come down to like three or four lines

1077
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: fourth downs. They are I think all of their last seven,

1078
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: so maybe they're due to get some fourth downs. But

1079
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty close to market here. Getting Kirby Joseph Back

1080
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: would help a lot, though, but I got nothing there

1081
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: really good. When though especially for the Lions. Like if

1082
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: you look at the lines right now, they they have

1083
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: they have the Steelers at home next week, and we

1084
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: just saw what is in the hospital, so hopefully he's okay,

1085
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: but we'll see what what happens there. Right now, they're

1086
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: in the eighth hole, so they're one game out and

1087
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: they're behind the Bears, and I mean the NFC, man,

1088
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: you could have teams to get through eleven wins and

1089
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: don't get in this year. So they're one game back.

1090
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: They're what five and a half six point dogs here.

1091
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: If they lose this and the Bears play the Browns,

1092
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: they're seven and a half point favorites. They're two back,

1093
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: and now they did already beat the Bears, so all

1094
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: you gotta do is be one back and then you

1095
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: can catch the Bears in the finale because they they

1096
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: play Chicago, but it's outdoors, late December golf outdoors might

1097
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: not be the best spot. And the Lions they also

1098
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: go too Minnesota, you know, not the easiest place to play,

1099
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: but Chicago they have to They don't have an easy

1100
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: schedule either, because this is going to go right down

1101
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: to why Chicago has you know, they have the Browns

1102
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: this week. He would hope they get that win.

1103
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: This is a massive game for them.

1104
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't mess this up. You cannot mess this up.

1105
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: But then they they have the rematch with the Packers

1106
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: at home. They then they go to San Francisco and

1107
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: then they host the Lions. So those are you got.

1108
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: The Browns is, We've got to win this game. They're

1109
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: a tough spot right like sandwich in between the Packers games.

1110
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: After the physical game, I think I might have to

1111
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: take the seven and a half with the Browns. The

1112
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: Browns offensive line injuries might scare me off there or

1113
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: like down to their like twelfth combination their center just

1114
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: when I are they might be down both tackles, both guards.

1115
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: The injury report is I think they were all out

1116
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: again today. But I will say this is like the total,

1117
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna be like five degrees. The total is

1118
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: in the thirties. The Bears Rundy is really bad. The

1119
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: Browns run these were really good on the year. Now

1120
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: maybe last year. Last week they gave up all those

1121
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: rushing yards to the Titans. Maybe Melie Collins went on,

1122
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: I is that important. I doubt he's like Aaron Donald

1123
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: on steroids because that's what you'd have to assume based

1124
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: on what they did last week Without them, I still

1125
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: think they're a really good run defense, so this should

1126
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: be a lower scoring game. It's a tough spot for

1127
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: the Bears. I might take the seven and a half

1128
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: with the better run defense, but the Browns offensive line

1129
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: issues are scary. But yeah, these NFC races these games

1130
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: over the next two weeks, and a lot of times,

1131
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: don't don't just pencil in the wins. You see this

1132
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: every year in the NFL. Oh yeah, when you just

1133
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: say like, all right, this one will be a win,

1134
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: it's about next week. You see these teams, especially in

1135
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: week eighteen, when you like it's a team that's dead,

1136
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: like a team that needs to win. We see you

1137
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: at least one upset every year. So yeah, I'm looking

1138
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: forward to these next four weeks.

1139
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. Like the Lions, the Rams, the

1140
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: Broncos and Green Bay. You know you're gonna get the

1141
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: best effort by both teams. But like if you're the Bears,

1142
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: you're coming off a loss, but everyone kind of gives

1143
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: you the win because it was pretty impressive. Yeah, and

1144
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: then you're like, well we get them at home here

1145
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: in a week, and all of a sudden, you know,

1146
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's sack and Caleb Williams a couple of times,

1147
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: Junkins busts off a fifty yard run. You're like, wait,

1148
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: we're down seventeen to ten. It's freezing cold in the

1149
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: third late in the third quarter, things get like you said,

1150
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: these cold games. It's why you know Denver hosting Green Bay.

1151
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Denver had equivalent in college like Saban always did before

1152
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl. He would play Mercer, he would play

1153
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: McNee State or whatever. LSU always did that before they

1154
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: played Alabama, and that game was a joke. You had

1155
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: the Raiders right, and I did that.

1156
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: One of the luckiest confers I will ever have in

1157
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: my life. I'm sending Christmas cards and flowers to Brandon

1158
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Jones and his family for that delay of game.

1159
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: And game in that spot with like five seconds ten seconds.

1160
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: Left, unbelievable. And I'm sending Christmas cards to Pete Carroll

1161
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: for kicking the field goal. I was watching that. I

1162
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: was standing up so he he completed the pass and

1163
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: I was like stood up off my couch and then

1164
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: I saw I saw him like reach over him, and

1165
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, are they gonna throw a flag, and then

1166
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: the announcers is like, what a stilly play? And I

1167
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: saw the flag, so then I'm like, oh my god,

1168
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: kick it, kick it. And then the announcers they're not

1169
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: showing the sidelines on what they're deciding. The announcers are like,

1170
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: and here comes the field goal team. I was like,

1171
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: but then the better in me is like, he's gonna

1172
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: miss it. He's one hundred percent going to miss it. Uh,

1173
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: who's just been tortured for twenty plus years betting. So

1174
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: then I'm on the edge of my seat like, don't

1175
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: don't bring me all this way and miss this field goal.

1176
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: And then it was like, I think it was the

1177
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: only it was probably had to be the only time

1178
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL history that the a team that lost

1179
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: it'll walk off field goal.

1180
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: Did you have a peace logic on it? Do you

1181
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: believe like he thought they had a little more time

1182
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: and then he'd get an onside kick and then throw

1183
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: a bomb.

1184
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, technically, if you had like that, I think

1185
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: he got too much flack for because number one, what

1186
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: else are you going to do? Like, yeah, if there's

1187
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: one second left and then you need like eight nine seconds, right, like,

1188
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: and then you have to kick the field there because

1189
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: if you try to score a touchdown, the time's gonna

1190
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 1: run out, right, So the only way if you're down ten,

1191
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: the only way you could ever win there needs to

1192
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: be like ten seconds. You have to kick the field

1193
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: goal then, which only takes like five seconds. Then you

1194
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: need to on side kick it, and then you need

1195
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: to get the ball back around midfield and then you

1196
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: run around throw a hill Mary. It doesn't matter if

1197
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: time runs out because it's the last play of the game.

1198
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: So from that sense it makes sense. But with five

1199
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: seconds left, it doesn't matter either way. Like what you

1200
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: should have said is just like we'll get we got

1201
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: reps for the field goal team, and no one got hurt, right,

1202
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: Like you don't get anyone hurt on a field goal.

1203
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: But the miracle I probably will pay for that again,

1204
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: got to make me pay, but that I will never

1205
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: probably have a cover like that again in my life.

1206
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: So but you're right, the Bronco.

1207
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: That's my logic. Denver gets the gets a little bit

1208
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: of a patsy. That's not like a lot of guys

1209
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: probably hit the town. They don't need to go to

1210
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: the ice bath. Green Bay Chicago the second half. I

1211
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: mean there were plays where guys paint on the helmet

1212
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: was coming off that that thing was the war zone.

1213
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: I heard a lot of respect for the Bears, Like

1214
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: we knew they were good, but that was like the

1215
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: metal and physical toughness they showed.

1216
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: To fight, that they were on the brink of getting

1217
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: blown out.

1218
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: Of making plays. Ben Johnson dialing up some plays. It

1219
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: was really impressive. But to me, that's both teams on

1220
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: like Monday, you know, like when players talk about, you know,

1221
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm not feeling right till Wednesday or Thursday. After

1222
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: big games. That has that's I feel. Then they go

1223
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: on the road to Denver, especially when you got Chicago

1224
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: next week. Not that I think they're gonna have a

1225
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: letdown here because all these games are big. I just

1226
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: think that's a tough physical spot when Denver kind of

1227
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: gets a patsy and you play, I don't know, your

1228
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: most physical game. I mean, especially you know they were

1229
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: just coming off the Lions game, which the Lions game,

1230
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: I know it was a short week, but it's much

1231
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: more like Bill's Bengals, right, it's just kind of flaming around,

1232
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: you know. It's a different toll on your body at

1233
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: the highest level. So I'm gonna take Denver as a

1234
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: dog in this spot. I don't feel great about it

1235
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: because you know, bo Nick's against that defense. But part

1236
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: of it is even at the end of that Bears game,

1237
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: they were just huffing and puffing right and rightfully. So

1238
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's these games are freezing cold. There

1239
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: was un visual or Caleb was in the in the

1240
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: huddle calling to play. You could tell like he has

1241
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: to be because you're not able to get the same win.

1242
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: He's flying around. I can't even imagine how all those

1243
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: guys felt. Which I loved it. I mean, I thought

1244
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: that was like as riveting of behalf as we've had

1245
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: this year. Just on the edge of my seat watching

1246
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: that game. Yeah, the first two games were entertaining the

1247
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: two big ones, the Ravens Baltimore and Sincy Bengals. That

1248
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: was on a different level from a physical standpoint of

1249
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: like this feels like mid January, which I thought green Bay,

1250
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I have money on them to make Super Bowl,

1251
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: but Chicago it's like, God damn, they fucking brought it.

1252
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: So I just wonder if Green Bay can match that

1253
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: intensity for three straight weeks because they're gonna have to

1254
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: bring it next week again.

1255
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's not an easy spot for them going

1256
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: on the road after that with the Bears again next week.

1257
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: This game similar to the Bears. This game sandwiched in

1258
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 1: between those two huge divisional games. It was a really

1259
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: physical game. Broncos pretty much had you know what, an

1260
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: amount into a walk through Broncos. By the way, Broncos

1261
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: have won ten straight, Patriots have won ten straight. Both

1262
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: may close as home dogs with both starting quarterbacks, so

1263
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: without a quarterback injury. That has only happened one time

1264
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty, and it might happen twice this weekend.

1265
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: The only time it ever happened is never not in

1266
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: the regular seasons the AFC Championship Game two thousand and five.

1267
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: Steelers have won ten straight. We're hosting the Patriots and

1268
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: Brady were plus two and a half lost forty one

1269
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 1: to twenty seven. The only time it happened since nineteen eighty.

1270
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: Might have it twice this weekend.

1271
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: I did.

1272
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: From a matchup perspective, I like the Packers are going

1273
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: to play a lot of zone. Nick struggles a lot

1274
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: more against zone. The Broncos are going to play a

1275
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of man single high Love is really good against that.

1276
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: So there's some matchup things that I like for the

1277
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: Packers here and I'm getting the better quarterback. But from

1278
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: a spot perspective, Home Dog, it's one straight uh getting

1279
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: the Packers in a tougher spot. I don't I don't

1280
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: pat your logic.

1281
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: One thing is, you know Ben the Midwest, Kyle is

1282
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: just He'll just run until the cows come home. You know,

1283
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: Let's face it, Sean likes to pass, you know. I mean,

1284
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: Sewan's is not gonna Sean's Andy Reid, right, I mean

1285
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: Ben will just I mean, at the end of the day,

1286
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: he would run it fifty times a game. It is working,

1287
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: and that work to his benefit in that game because

1288
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: it wears you down. That's Kyle's whole logic of the

1289
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: Shanahan family is in these big games when we're all

1290
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: equals in cold weather and you're not just gonna throw

1291
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: for four hundred yards, right, and it's one of the games.

1292
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: And that's you know, I think why they got back

1293
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: in that game on that long drive and ball off

1294
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: and I just think Denver, it's like Sean's like watch

1295
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: if I guy Bo Nicks throw another incompletion. That's what

1296
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: makes me nervous. Like you said, I mean, this game

1297
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: is the Bills were in major trouble. Bro I mean,

1298
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: the Bengals were driving and I thought it was twenty

1299
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: eight twenty five. I'm like, he's gonna score. They're gonna

1300
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: be down ten point. This is how this thing is

1301
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: kind of gonna end for them. Just before then just smoke,

1302
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: you're right, and that pick was just I mean it

1303
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: was your mouth hits the floor moment. And then obviously

1304
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: the next playing there was another one that's a little freakier,

1305
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: but that that saved their season. You know, I know,

1306
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 2: I know you like the Bills. I think a lot

1307
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: of people are gonna hammer the Bills in this spot.

1308
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: They're just not very good on defense.

1309
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1310
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: The New England, you know, Joe Burrow looked like lsu

1311
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I mean he was he came out that

1312
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: game in the beginning, those first couple of drivers, He's like,

1313
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: holy shit, he's good, you know, and uh, you know,

1314
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: Ken Drake may do that. He's been doing that against

1315
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: easier competition. I just think the Bills defense really care

1316
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 2: for me. I mean, they are to me closer like

1317
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: a lion's operation. Now they got this quarterback who's superhuman.

1318
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: He had a couple of runs in that game. It's

1319
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: like are there even defenders around?

1320
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: Like?

1321
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: Where are you guys? He had like one that should

1322
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: have just been like a first down for like you know,

1323
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: it was like a big third down. He he just

1324
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: kept running. It's like where is everybody? It's crazy.

1325
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite bets. Places here to

1326
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: watch id the over? I got that SVP shadowed me

1327
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 1: out on bad Beats the other day for a snover.

1328
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: I've been talking about snowvers for like fifteen years, which

1329
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: is when there's like an inch of snow on the

1330
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: ground so you can't have like a foot because then

1331
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: you can't move. But there's like an inch of snow

1332
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: on the ground, and uh, there's no there's not a

1333
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: lot of wins. These games historically have gone over at

1334
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: like a sixty three sixty four percent clip and a

1335
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of.

1336
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: Shady didn't Shady McCoy have a big game in the

1337
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: snow by the defenders?

1338
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: Number one? You can't. Brady always talked about this, so

1339
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: you love playing in the snow. I mean they they

1340
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: they put it. They were up like thirty five nothing

1341
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: at the first half in the snowstorm against the Titans.

1342
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: I think one year at the end of the first

1343
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: quarter it was like with the Moss they scored like

1344
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: on their top five touchdowns and five drives in like

1345
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: the first quarter. But you as a as a d back,

1346
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: the receiver knows where they're going, so you can't like

1347
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: it's a running back too, if you're a linebacker, they

1348
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: know where they're cutting. Pass rushers can't get any footing.

1349
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 1: So quarterback has all day they know where the receivers

1350
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: are going. And we saw that last week. And like

1351
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks and the snow without wind can just it.

1352
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just awesome to watch. No. I do like the

1353
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: Bills here. I like, look, the Bills defense does have

1354
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: issues and it's not snowhere close to an elite unit.

1355
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: We'll see if they get Bosa back, which will help.

1356
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: But the Patriots their offensive line that they're gonna be

1357
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: without their left tackle. I think that's big because the

1358
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: Bills can still get pressure, especially if Bosa's back and

1359
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: they're left tackle. Their rookie Campbell has been playing well.

1360
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: Now they have Venerian Lowe who's not very good. Might

1361
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: be a major issue in this game. The other thing,

1362
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: there's a couple things I like here, but number one,

1363
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: I just need Josh Allen to win the game. There's

1364
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: not many quarterbacks of any that I trust right at

1365
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: this moment to go out there and get me a

1366
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: win if I need it and for what it's worth

1367
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: in his career, if he's a dog or a favorite

1368
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: of less than three. So he just needed to win

1369
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: the game. He's thirty and fourteen against the spread. Historically,

1370
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: only Brady and Breeze are better. He's eighteen eighty two

1371
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: against the spread in that spot and just overall when

1372
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: it spreads between three and three. So the competitive game,

1373
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: he's nineteen and seven against the spread seventy three percent.

1374
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: But the Patriots, look, they've been great. May's been great,

1375
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: but they've also been a little bit lucky. They're fourteen

1376
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: of eighteen on fourth downs, number one in the NFL.

1377
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Their opponents are seven of twenty two. That stuff adds up.

1378
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: They've also had fifteen fumbles only lost seven. They've recovered

1379
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: seventy percent of their opponent's fumbles. Here's where I think,

1380
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: and when they met the first time, the Patriots to

1381
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: beat the Bills in Buffalo, to their credit, but Buffalo

1382
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: eleven penalties and three turnovers and the Patriots won on

1383
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: a walk off field goal. The Patriots run defense is

1384
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: also playing at an elite level at the time, but

1385
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: they've lost Note and Williams and since Week eleven they're

1386
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: thirty first in rush success rate allowed. So I think

1387
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: the Bills will be able to get their run game

1388
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: going attle bit more and one of the biggest problems

1389
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, because look, the Bills are gonna play

1390
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: a lot of his own. May's been shredding zone is

1391
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems with the place, So they're

1392
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna move the ball. But where the Patriots really out

1393
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 1: of issues is in the red zone when the field shrinks,

1394
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: because May's deep ball has been amazing. The Patriots on

1395
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: the season are twenty fourth in red zone touchdown percenters

1396
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: on offense. They're dead last on defense. So I think

1397
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: the Bill's gonna have a finish off drives. Look, they

1398
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: had a pick last time, they had a cook fumble

1399
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: that killed two long drives, and this Patriot's run dye

1400
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: is just not the same. So I think the Bills

1401
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: go into Foxborough and get it done. I will say

1402
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 1: Varibel has been very good. He's six to zero against

1403
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 1: the spread off of the bye Patriots coming off of

1404
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: a bye here. But I'm gonna trust Allen to get

1405
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: it done. Make this race a little more interesting. Although

1406
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: all the Patriots have to do is beat the Dolphins

1407
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: and the Jets at home, and then no matter what

1408
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: happens in this game, they will win the division. They

1409
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: also go to Baltimore next. But I think the Bills

1410
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: get done. Should be a really really fun game.

1411
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I shorted JJ McCarthy last week. You did not well,

1412
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: you just took the vikings that you weren't necessarily believe. Yes,

1413
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: he actually had, you know, a pretty solid game for

1414
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: his standard. Obviously, they're playing the Commanders, who part of

1415
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: your logic was, bro, this is the worst defensive secondary

1416
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: you might ever see, and that was true. Threw a

1417
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: bunch of touchdowns. Little different animal going into Dallas coming

1418
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: off a loss long week. I mean, even if the Eagles,

1419
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: which they should take care of the Raiders, they still

1420
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: have life right and they're still alive. Jerry even talked

1421
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: about I saw some quotes this week, so I like

1422
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: is JJ McCarthy gonna have back to back weeks where

1423
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: he's like throwing touchdowns, So I guess I'm just gonna

1424
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: stick with that lot. I know I got burned once,

1425
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna take the Cowboys in this spot minus

1426
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 2: five and a half Sunday Night football.

1427
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: Again, different number, but I'm against you. I have some Vikings.

1428
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I just think the line's too high. This Dallas defense.

1429
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: It's better with Quinn Williams, but it's still not trustworthy.

1430
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: The Vikings offensive lines getting healthier, their defense is still

1431
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: a problem. I think it's a bit too many. We're

1432
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: asking Dallas to win by margin here like that's it's

1433
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: I think this is getting too high. But I'm not

1434
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: gonna be nervous by MacArthur. Yeah, but like O'Connell told

1435
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: him to just go out there, let it rip, and

1436
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: he saws mechanical issues, especially like throwing left. And he

1437
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: looked a little better, so he all at least has

1438
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: some confidence here.

1439
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1440
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: We'll see if Ceedee Lamb goes with his concussion. I

1441
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: didn't see his status today. I thought he was definitely

1442
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out the way that he was like fencing.

1443
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh, by the way, one last note the

1444
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Patriots have ten wins. Seven of the quarterbacks they beat

1445
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: are either rookies are no longer The quarterbacks they beat

1446
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: dark Bryce, Young Flacco, without Chase Fields, Pennix, Gabriel, Ward, Rattler, Tua,

1447
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: and Baker. I mean, that's as easy as it gets.

1448
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: It's easy at scheduling that I felt by far. But

1449
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys might have life they win

1450
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: this game. They host the Chargers, who were in trouble.

1451
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: I really like the Chiefs to speak and we can

1452
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: talk about the next But this Eagles team is broken,

1453
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: and it really reminds me of twenty twenty three. And

1454
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three they had. It was with Brian

1455
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:35,440
Speaker 1: Johnson coordinator, much maligned right, the offense had major issues.

1456
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: Everyone was talking about it, everyone knew it now. They

1457
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: started off hot. They won a bunch once in overtime.

1458
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: They won a bunch of close games and like I remember,

1459
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: to beat the Commanders in overtime. They beat the Bills

1460
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: in overtime in a game that they should have lost

1461
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: like ten times. And they started off I think ten

1462
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: and one, nine and one, so even better than this year.

1463
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: And then they fell apart. They lost five of their

1464
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: last six. They lost the division to the Cowboys and

1465
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: then they got blown out, blown out in Tampa thirty

1466
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: two to nine. It's the same exact vibes I mean.

1467
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, that year, they lost as eleven

1468
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: and a half point favor in December at home after

1469
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: a Monday night game to the Cardinals.

1470
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah went around. Then they have

1471
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,440
Speaker 2: a big comeback at the Cardinals.

1472
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: Yes.

1473
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: Uh.

1474
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: They also lost in December to a Pete Carroll team

1475
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: with a Gino Smith backup. They lost to the Seahawks

1476
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: when Gino was out and Drew Locke beat them in

1477
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: this meltdown.

1478
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith game winning touchdown right side of the end zone.

1479
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: It was a dime. So ye had two dives. Remember

1480
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: we had to drive the whole field. He had dk

1481
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: on a bomb and then he had Jackson Smith for

1482
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: the walkoff. Yes, was that the sick? Yeah? It was

1483
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: Monday night football?

1484
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah?

1485
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: Did did you see today? And I don't think there's

1486
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: random Jeffrey Larry gave a bunch of quotes. He did

1487
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: an article with Mike Silver and I think he wants

1488
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: to like support and show like, hey, we're not giving up,

1489
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: because he had some quotes when Silver asked him if

1490
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: this season's like anything a couple of years ago, and

1491
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: he said, nothing like it, absolute opposite. We have a

1492
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 2: super Bowl defense and great special teams. Our offense will

1493
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: get it going. I'm not worried at all. He also

1494
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: said on the turnovers, we had a lot of turnovers,

1495
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: but some of them were flukes.

1496
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: Wow, well, turning it over two times first quarterback.

1497
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: And then their defense with Patricia was leaking oil to

1498
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: that year, right, yes, yes, it was, yeah, Bradberry.

1499
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense was falling apart at the end of

1500
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: the season. I mean they gave up like thirty something

1501
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals that in that loss. You know, they

1502
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: let True Locke come back on them. They got destroyed

1503
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: at the at the Giants, they got destroyed at Dallas.

1504
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: They gave up. They were giving up. They thought that

1505
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: oh against the forty nine ers, remember the forty nine ers,

1506
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: and that's where it all started the slide. If put

1507
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: like forty five on them in Philly, it was like

1508
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: forty five to seventeen, and uh yeah, so their defense also,

1509
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: So their defense now is more super Bowl caliber, but

1510
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 1: the offense to me might be more broken.

1511
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: Like it's it is the star receiver doesn't like quarterback.

1512
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's evident, and then.

1513
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: The offensive line is way worse and injured, and you

1514
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: have the play calling. It's just a bunch of hit routs.

1515
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: There's no creativity. Hurts isn't running the ball at all,

1516
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Like that's one of his biggest assets.

1517
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: He wants He's like Anthony Davis, who wants to be

1518
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: a power forward, not a center. Jalen Hurts wants to

1519
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 2: be like Joe Burrow and he's not like Justin Herbert

1520
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 2: with a broken hand, was like, you want to run

1521
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: the plays used to call in San Francisco for Kaepernick,

1522
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: I'll do it like whatever the Hurts does not, they

1523
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 2: just call pocket passes.

1524
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's like whenever when like that's like

1525
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: Russ at the end of his career when he tried

1526
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: to just be pure and that's not what makes Russ

1527
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: and Russ can't do that right, Like that's that's this

1528
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: isn't what Like Kurts isn't going to be the guy

1529
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: that sits there like Burrow and just he needs to

1530
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: use his legs. It's one of his assets that makes

1531
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: splits the defense in conflict also makes the running game

1532
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: go more today have all kinds of issues. Would it

1533
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: shock me if they got upset by the Raiders? Probably?

1534
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: Probably the Raiders are so bad. But I do think

1535
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: with Picket he can at least move around, which you

1536
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 1: need to do, like you know, just takes crippling Zach's

1537
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: Picket can at least move around, move outside the pocket

1538
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: because the Raiders offensive line is one of the worst

1539
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: I've ever seen with the injuries.

1540
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: What's crazy about Jalen too as a runner is like

1541
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: his running back instincts are like a running back, Like

1542
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: he's very he doesn't take big shots when he's in

1543
01:19:55,280 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: the space. He's got a very instinctive like feel know,

1544
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: when he's outside of the tackle box moving and he's not.

1545
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: He's actually really good at it. Like I mean, it's

1546
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, avoiding hits. It's not like he's getting molly

1547
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: wopped like down the field like Lamar when he was younger.

1548
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: Like he's he's pretty natural at avoiding it. So it's

1549
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 2: not like it's twenty twenty five. This isn't nineteen eighty seven.

1550
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get killed, so like, and he's already been.

1551
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: You get two hundred fifty million dollars. So it's like

1552
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: what I don't understand, but clearly that is an emphasis.

1553
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: We don't do this anymore, like we don't run those plays. Yeah,

1554
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: like I would like institute like the option with him

1555
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: in Saqua and probably dominate.

1556
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not some element stuff, but they need to

1557
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: use some play action, some motion, like more under the center.

1558
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: But the Herbert's legs killed the Eagles, I mean he

1559
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: saved the game.

1560
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: Yep. So yeah, they played the Commanders twice there and

1561
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: then they played there, so their schedule is fairly conducive here.

1562
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: But if they drop one of the games, the most

1563
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: likely game that they'll they'll lose. If the Cowboys can

1564
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: win out is at Buffalo. Like I don't see them

1565
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: winning at the Bills with the state of their offense

1566
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: right now. But are they gonna sweep Washington? I don't

1567
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: know that this team, like the way that they play,

1568
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: they can't get margin in anybody. And by the way,

1569
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, the Cowboys need to win out. I

1570
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: don't think that the Eagles are gonna lose out with

1571
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: their schedule.

1572
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 2: They lose to the Raiders this weekend, that would not

1573
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: be a safe environment walk into that train. You know.

1574
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: No, uh, Patula better, Yeah, start getting the cleaning supplies

1575
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: for the eggs on his house. So can the Cowboys

1576
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: went out? I mean they have the they're at the

1577
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: Commanders at the Giants the end of the year. That

1578
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: those all be easy games because those are like division

1579
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: rivals that will be up for those games. But they

1580
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: host the Vikings this week and then they host the Chargers,

1581
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers are done. Like the Chargers

1582
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: they got to win over the Eagles. They were out

1583
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: gained by one hundred and third yards, they had averaged

1584
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: three point eight yards per play, they were they had

1585
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: five turnovers. The Eagles turned over five times and they

1586
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: had the ball in overtime at the ten with a

1587
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: chance to win. So and why is that, Well, you

1588
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: have the Herbert hand. So I really like the Chiefs

1589
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: this week. The Chiefs haven't covered in five straight. I

1590
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: think this is the bottom mark. And now they've taken

1591
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: some money. It's the five and a half. Now anything

1592
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: under six. It's a short week for the charters going

1593
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: on the road outdoors, and like it's gonna be like

1594
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: zero degrees. Probably not great for Herbert Tand but this

1595
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: offense right now is incapable of functioning, especially on the road.

1596
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: With the state of their offensive line. It's it's decrepit,

1597
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean. And what they've done on the road this

1598
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: year since their offensive line injuries they got, they lost

1599
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: by thirty at Jacksonville, they lost at the Giants, they

1600
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,879
Speaker 1: barely beat the Titans, and they barely beat the Dolphins.

1601
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: That's what they've done on the road. And then if

1602
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: you look since Week four, since they've had the offensive

1603
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: line injuries, the Chiefs are fifth and EPA for play

1604
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: on offense. The Charters are twenty fifth. Like this is

1605
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: a trending to a bottom ten offense. They gave up

1606
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: a seventy percent pressure rate, the highest of any game

1607
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: this year to the Eagles, who didn't have Jalen Carter,

1608
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: and Herbert got sacked seven times. The Chiefs have a

1609
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: higher press rate than the Eagles even when they do

1610
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: have Jalen Carter. So Chargers also played the highest rate

1611
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: of zone in the league. This Chiefs offense has issues.

1612
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: The receivers are really struggling to get separation and man

1613
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: and but against zone, I mean, they're EPA for plays

1614
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: seventy five percent higher against zone. That it is versus man.

1615
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: They can still dink and dun't get down the field.

1616
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: The Chargers want to present exposed to plays. I think

1617
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: it is a great spot at the back the Chiefs.

1618
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: They've had the much tougher schedule. They're forty points better

1619
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: net points better than the Chargers. Short week on the

1620
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: road in the cold, Herbert with his hand offensive line

1621
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: is a disaster. Chiefs can still get pressure. Chiefs have

1622
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: some offensive line entries. But the Chargers aren't the team

1623
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna They're not the Texans. I think they're like

1624
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: twenty third and six in pressure rate. I think this

1625
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: is the time to buy the Chiefs and it could

1626
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,520
Speaker 1: get interesting the chief in order to make the playoffs.

1627
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: I put a little couch change bet on the Chiefs

1628
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I think that's like they're like

1629
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: five to one. Obviously they need to win out so

1630
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: there and if they went out, they get the ten

1631
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: and seven. And if they were, assuming the Colts are

1632
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: done so we can throw them out. I think the

1633
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Texans are in, the Jags are in, the Bills are

1634
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: in the pass and the Broncos so, and then the

1635
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: winner of the AFC North So then I think the

1636
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: last spot comes down to the Chargers versus the Chiefs.

1637
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: You might say, well, the Chargers of nine wins the

1638
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs of six. That's true, but Chiefs hosting this week

1639
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: could close the gap to two. Then the Chargers are

1640
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, won't be easy home against the Texans

1641
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: with the state of their offensive line, that's not going

1642
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: to be easy. And then they're at the Broncos with

1643
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: the state of their offensive line, that's not going to

1644
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: be easy. And then the Chiefs have the Broncos at

1645
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: home next week or one of the games, and then

1646
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: they're at the Raiders and at the Titans. I think

1647
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs win this week, they're gonna win out. So

1648
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: the question then becomes, can the Charters win two of

1649
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: their last three against the Cowboys on the road, the

1650
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: Texans at home, and at Denver. There's a chance that

1651
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Denver is playing in Week eighteen against the Charters with

1652
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: a chance to clinch the one seed, and if they do,

1653
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: they let the Chiefs in who they would play if

1654
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs win the first game, which is just amazing drama.

1655
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: Chiefs are could also be in a position where maybe

1656
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: they know they're going to be the two seed and

1657
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: would they rather just rematch the Chargers or.

1658
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: There's a chance. It depends on what the Patriots do too.

1659
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: So the Patriots and Broncos are the same record, but

1660
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: the Broncos have the tiebreaker. And by the way, in

1661
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: that scenario that I just mentioned, if the Chiefs and

1662
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: the Charters finished with ten wins, the Chiefs win the

1663
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: tiger uncommon games, assuming the Chargers lose at Denver and

1664
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs, is.

1665
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: That is that the first tiebreaker for a division.

1666
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: Division record, which the first it's had to have then

1667
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: division record whatever that if that had whatever I just subscribed,

1668
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: they finished ten because they split, they would have the

1669
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: same division record assuming the char Rogers lose at the

1670
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Broncos and then it would come down to common opponents

1671
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs would win. So they're not said the

1672
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: Chargers they charged. I could see the charges going oh

1673
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: to four, like when you at Denver, at Dallas, at

1674
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: Case and home against Houston.

1675
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 2: That that's why that loss of Philly was so bad,

1676
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: or that loss for Philly, because it's like they have

1677
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: no business beating you. You can't lose to a team

1678
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: with no offensive line, a quarterback with a broken hand,

1679
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: you can't bad, bad, bad and they're running back. Like

1680
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I didn't watch much North Carolina football, but all my

1681
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: buddies in the league like this guy. I remember watching

1682
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: the highlights of them, like okay, and then they take

1683
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 2: them in the first round. Even before he got injured.

1684
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: There's something he doesn't look very fast. Now, I'm not

1685
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,879
Speaker 2: gonna judge him in that Eagle game coming off the injury,

1686
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 2: but it's not like I mean, I would say the

1687
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: running back crew so far this year, it's like I'd

1688
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: rather have a Menujai and like the seventh and some

1689
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: of these guys going on the first You know, this

1690
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: is why people are at him, like, don't take these

1691
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: guys as high. You know, for every Christian McCaffrey and

1692
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 2: be John Robinson, a lot of guys that are whiffs.

1693
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you're like, wait, the

1694
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: best running back was a fourth rounder. So I'm with

1695
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: you there. Do you know who whin's the tiebreaker of

1696
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 2: the Texans and the Jags? They finished with the same.

1697
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: Uh so Texans. Let's see. By the way, if you're

1698
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: there's a you're gonna be listening this after the game.

1699
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: The Bucks playing the Falcons is an important game because

1700
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: if the Bucks win tonight, then they will clinch the

1701
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: tiebreaker of the Panthers if they split, so they play

1702
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: each other twice.

1703
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: I kind of like the Saints in that game, how

1704
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: about you?

1705
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, especially if I can get a three.

1706
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: But if the Bucks lose on Thursday night and the

1707
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Panthers win against the Saints and the Panthers split, and

1708
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: the panthersn't Buck split and they finished tiede the Panthers

1709
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: would win the tiebreaker, but Texans Jags tiebreaker.

1710
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 2: So because assuming the Texans beat the Colts, they would

1711
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: be their division record would be five and one, The

1712
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: Jags still need to take care of action in the division.

1713
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: They would still need to beat the Colts, and they

1714
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 2: would need to beat the beat the Titan so they

1715
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: could both go five and one in the division, and

1716
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: so they split. Let's see, it's a little complicated. I

1717
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: guess it depends on who you lose to, right, Like,

1718
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: who would the Jags? What would happen if they finished

1719
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: with the same record. More than likely looking at their schedule,

1720
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: it would probably be like the loss of the Colts.

1721
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: But I guess they could lose the Broncos too. Doesn't

1722
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: it kick into conference record?

1723
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: So if they finished Tide, they're probably that means so

1724
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: they split the series, they split head to head.

1725
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's assume Jags loss division.

1726
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would come down the common games also

1727
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: probably tied. Uh, And then then it would come down

1728
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: the conference record where Houston have the edge because there

1729
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: if it plays out like we say that Houston would

1730
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: be eleven and two, Jags ten and three.

1731
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: That Bronco game is big. So the Texas have legit life. Yes, yeah,

1732
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 2: it's it's for those of us that have their future

1733
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: to win the division. It's it was dead until it wasn't.

1734
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: And now I played I had the Jags to win

1735
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: the division preseason, and on this week I played, Uh,

1736
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm like plus three fifty. This week I played, uh,

1737
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: Texans plus one seventy five.

1738
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 2: Right now, who do you think, if you were betting

1739
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: see over the Rams, who wins that division?

1740
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's a tough.

1741
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: One because I think I think common wisdom of people

1742
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: to just talk about football just are like placing the

1743
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: Rams there.

1744
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: And it's like I can see the Seahawks are their

1745
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: their defense can be anyone on any day.

1746
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: In a weird way, too. The Niners, because they play

1747
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: each other, aren't sneaky dead. They've already beat both those

1748
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 2: two teams. They got the Titans, then they got the Bears,

1749
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: and they got Philip Rivers. So and then they play

1750
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 2: Seattle last game of season in San Francisco. So it's

1751
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: their schedule potentially broke. I mean, the Bears game will

1752
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: be hard, but again, they can never just go win.

1753
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, are the forty nine ers of a

1754
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 2: buye losing the Titans. That feels like impossible, doesn't it.

1755
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the forty nine ers aren't dead, and you're gonna

1756
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: have one of these teams gets a loss. Yeah, next

1757
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: week on Thursday, and the Rams. Rams better be careful

1758
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: this week, I agree. Us let's end on the Steelers. Obviously,

1759
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: that news with TJ. Watt, I mean, you just not good.

1760
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't just take random people in the

1761
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 2: hospital in the middle of the week something like that.

1762
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: And also again I'm not trying to speculate, but sometimes

1763
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: with stuff like that, you know, you're probably more likely

1764
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: to be gone for a while than just like, oh

1765
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: I just missed a couple of days, right, Yeah, So

1766
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, we see this in

1767
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: the NBA sometimes like goes to the hospital, there's a blood

1768
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: clot and he's out for six weeks. You just you

1769
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: just never know that it will be they will air

1770
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: on the side of precaution with anything. Internally, we know

1771
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 2: that now. You know. DK had even Rogers when he

1772
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: was interviewed after that Ravens game, was like he was

1773
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 2: just raving about his week at practice. I mean, clearly

1774
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: they got in his ass, like, bro, we're paying something,

1775
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: we need you to carry. He's playing gunner. I mean

1776
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 2: it was sweet. He looked pretty awesome, But is he

1777
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: a guy you know he's doing that week in week out?

1778
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, Miami, I'd be I didn't even know that

1779
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 2: Jets Dolphins game was going to Like the three and

1780
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: out group text was like talking about the game, like

1781
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: this game is even happening, and I look at the

1782
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: box score. He throws for like one hundred and twenty

1783
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: yards and they win by twenty four points. It's like

1784
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 2: the Jets, what a joke, But clearly the Dolphins. If

1785
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: I would have told you on December eleventh that the Dolphins,

1786
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: you know, two months ago that the Dolphins and Chiefs

1787
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: would have the same record, would you believe me.

1788
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: Incredible. No, I thought the Dolphins might have the worst

1789
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: record in the league. M Daniels is gonna get fired and.

1790
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Now here they are gonna get an extension.

1791
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: They're run defense is playing really well. Eight chain they're

1792
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: they're basically just running it and then they're relying on

1793
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: Now they've ad of that some easy games. I mean,

1794
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: the Bills game is impressive.

1795
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: They called two throws for like und one hundred and

1796
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: fifty yards every game.

1797
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just running it and then their run defense

1798
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: is playing well. Their defense is playing better overall. Can

1799
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: they just line up and run it at the Steelers?

1800
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the Bills did. We'll see because

1801
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: you guys aren't dead. I mean, the Ravens play the Steelers,

1802
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: they end up, but the Rings have a tough schedule.

1803
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: The Bengals aren't even dead. I sprinkled some of the

1804
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 1: Bengals fifteen seventeen to one to win the division because

1805
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: if they beat the Ravens this week, there's a chance

1806
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: that eight to nine wins this division. And if the

1807
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Bengals went out they finished eight to nine, the Ravens

1808
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: still will be stuck at six wins. They go to

1809
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: green Bay, they host New England and then they go

1810
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. The Steelers go to Detroit. Next week they

1811
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: host the Ravens and then they go to Cleveland. That's

1812
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: not gonna be an easy game, Cleveland against their rival wanting

1813
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: to end the Steelers season, and.

1814
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Then the Dolphins, the Cards, and the Browns.

1815
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if I think the if the Bengals win

1816
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: this week, they're sneaky live because eight nine could win

1817
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: the division and if the Bengals get there, they would

1818
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 1: win all the tie breakers if they get the eight

1819
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: nine and all the team's are eight and nine, which

1820
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: is funny because they win the division.

1821
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Record because that Placco went against the Steelers probably counting

1822
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: pretty big.

1823
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Or yeah, they would have the best division record. So yeah,

1824
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: they're they're right, but the Ravens aren't dead, but they

1825
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: need this game. Like you're going to host New England,

1826
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: gone to Green Bay, gone to Pittsburgh. It comes down

1827
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: to like is lamar gonna he's not healthy, he's on

1828
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: target rate, he's he doesn't Yeah, is there a time

1829
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: where like it's this week?

1830
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Right?

1831
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Like okay, all of a sudden he looks like the

1832
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: oldo Mark Ward? Does it never come this this year,

1833
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I haven't bet a Ravens game

1834
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: in weeks because of that. It's just hard to know.

1835
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Like Okay is yet seventy If he's got sixty seventies

1836
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: the now, is he gonna be at eighty percent this

1837
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: week because he's had like a knee I am a

1838
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 1: toe injury. So I don't know, but right now you can't.

1839
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: I can't trust the Ravens. And then the scary thing

1840
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: about like the Ravens defense is playing well overall. I mean,

1841
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,839
Speaker 1: lastly they get they get up way too many explosive

1842
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 1: passing plays to Rogers. You've got to give the Steelers

1843
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: credit for hitting them, but they can't. They don't get pressure.

1844
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: It's where they miss mout of Buk. They don't have

1845
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: a lad edge rusher, so like if you can't get

1846
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: pressure on Burrow, he's gonna pick anyone apart. So huge game.

1847
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: I think the winner of that game, the Bengals lose,

1848
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: they're done obviously, but the winner of that game very

1849
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: live in the division. Steeler was it's a field goal.

1850
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: I think that's about right. The Dolphins are playing very well,

1851
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: but in the Cal it's gon freezing to a historically

1852
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: not at his best. But so that's what the key.

1853
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: Can they eat steels run the show up here because

1854
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: it's two in the cold, You're not gonna presumably not

1855
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna have wat They're gonna try to give it to

1856
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: a chain a million times. That's what the Bills did

1857
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: and you couldn't stop it. They around the same play

1858
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: twenty some times. But you got to force to it

1859
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: to throw in the cold here. So they had a

1860
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: huge advantage as far as the weather because too historically

1861
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: has been very, very poor in these conditions.

1862
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm more in sandals and shorts. The way you've talked

1863
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: about all these Midwest and Northeast games, it must be

1864
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 2: a cold uh cold front going through.

1865
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Huh, there's snow on the ground out here in Lexington,

1866
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: so it's not fun.

1867
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: Well, uh, at least you got Kentucky basketball, which I

1868
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: heard someone say is not going well for the twenty five.

1869
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: They've spent on that.

1870
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 1: A lot of grumblings here, so yeah, it's it's uh.

1871
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 2: I watched a little I watched some of that b

1872
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Yu the star freshmen that played Bads that that second

1873
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:58,839
Speaker 2: half was sweet.

1874
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. They were they played. The funny thing

1875
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: is this kind of sums up nil and like they

1876
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: like b YU with all their money now has someone

1877
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: who might be the number one pick in the draft.

1878
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,839
Speaker 1: I think, like the if you look at those rosters

1879
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 1: the like they were playing Clemson, Clemson had two Mormons

1880
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: on their team and Byu had one. I think so uh,

1881
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, b Yu, go watch if you b yu

1882
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: is on TV. Even if you're just like a casual

1883
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: fan of college basketborat if you like the NBA. This

1884
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: kid a j Davanza who had like I think he

1885
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: finished with like twenty nine points, dying, rebound, seven assists.

1886
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: He's a player, uh, legit legit talent. So uh, but

1887
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Michigan is the story of college basketball. They are blowing

1888
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: everybody out of the water.

1889
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 2: And il are just like good team.

1890
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: Good team, like they hit in the portal and have

1891
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: a good coach in Dustin Maye. But they they've just

1892
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: been destroying teams. I mean, so they're number one. They

1893
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: rank their ranked number one. Analytically, everyone has them number one.

1894
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: It's so and they might be double digit favorites all

1895
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: the way up until January thirtieth, when they go to

1896
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Michigan State, so they might be number one and undefeated

1897
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: for a long time.

1898
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 2: But uh, I think nil is sick. I mean it's

1899
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: just like all of a sudden, Texas texts we to

1900
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: football BYU's got like Kobe Bryant on their team. It's like,

1901
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: count me in on nil. Just it's added a cool

1902
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 2: little element. Or when people fail and they have a

1903
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: high price seat like Texas's boosters are looking around we're

1904
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,520
Speaker 2: going nine to three paying forty million, or Kentucky basketball

1905
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 2: cutting twenty five million, or checks cal Pari's talking about

1906
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: some dudes paying alimony to his wife on nil. I mean,

1907
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 2: it's just it's I'm all for twenty twenty five. Man.

1908
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 2: It's great.

1909
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. But on the when it's not fun,

1910
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 1: there's people get pass questions are and the patients is, hey,

1911
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: we're putting this all the talking. This is Kentucky's in

1912
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: lex and it's this is what twenty one million is.

1913
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: This is what twenty one and like when I get

1914
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: him fired, does it get you fired faster?

1915
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not good so far.

1916
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: Okay, stuck, he enjoyed the weekend and have fun watching football.

1917
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: Talk to youbody, talk to you.

1918
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: Guys next week, have a great night, see everyone later

1919
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: and we'll be back Sunday.

1920
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: The Volume

1921
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 2: M